The Sith Are Lonely
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At first glance the Sith Order seems powerful and mighty, but the true nature of this organization runs counter to basic human desires and needs. Very few people actually possess the necessary personality traits to be a "content" Sith Lord.
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Sometime the RIGHT path is loneliness Allen 😔...
The Sith kno the POWER of collectiveness in our world n they will prop up their puppets to manipulate the collective conscious of the populace 😨😔
I'm happy to be along for your ride to the light side :)
Minicholians sound like mitochondria . And the dark side is adrenaline
@@motherteresa8418 To be precise: Like being an adrenaline junkie.
During the time I hosted a old republic campaign, I had a Sith player who was named Darth Imperius. Unlike alot of my other sith players, he was eager to take on an apprentice, which he did by taking on two Sith students. When asked why, he said “it would be grand, to see students take on my knowledge, and strive to be greater than me. Power is excellent, but it doesn’t nourish all of the soul.”
If I were a Sith I’d be a scholar Sith. Studying or trying to find ancient knowledge to supplement my own. Wisdom and advise from those who came before me. Collection of Sith artifacts not just as momentous but to be studied through the force to try and see why spirits art attached to them or why they are deemed as legendary. What ancient practices are lost and why were they lost? All of it
What is it a DND like Story?
Oh right Star Wars has a tabletop game
Were they a Sage too, tf? Just dropping wisdom bombs on the party.
@@tylerthompson5859 he was a sith assassin turned sith warrior. He led armies and campaigns across the outer and mid rim. His first big show was a full on BlitzKreig on a blockage that was set up on Onderon, and as a show of dominance in his first conquest, he killed the Queen on Live Holonet
I remember when reading a Star Wars Infinities book years ago, Vader was tasked with hunting down a Jedi known as the Dark Woman. He came to the garden where she tended plants and animals, even trying to preserve a flower that was designated the last of its kind. Vader was amazed by the beauty of the place, and even sought to gently touch the flower's petals. But when they exchanged their view on philosophy, Vader disagreed with preservation and instead believed the weak were meant to be replaced by the strong.
Though it was rare, Vader also displayed attributes that made him more easily liked amongst the Imperial military than elsewhere. From Legends continuity where he had devoted officers like Erv Lekauf to clone troopers like Appo, to even an entire alien species called the Noghri who devoted themselves to Vader and then devoted themselves to Leia after recognizing her as his daughter. Vader was always leading the way into battle; something the stormtroopers respected far more than the officers who ordered them into battle while high up in a Star Destroyer.
The reason why I love your channel so much is because you're able to take this seemingly grandiose SW concepts like the Sith ideology and turn it into a message for us to reflect on in our daily lives. Thanks Generation Tech, humanity first.
I feel like the Sith in the Old Republic had more liberty within the galaxy than during the Empire era where duty came first leaving minimal time to yourself or for others because Papa Palp is always watching.
I agree. "How cold is the heart when it's warmth that it seeks." ~Sting
I can think of no better example of what a Banite Sith should strive to be than, ironically, a Sith that died thousands of years before Darth Bane was born. Darth Malgus, a servant of the Sith Empire and follower of Darth Vitiate and the Dark Council. An accomplished general in war and a strategic master who achieved something few other Sith would ever achieve in the history of the Galaxy, taking Coruscant by hostile siege. If any of you have watched the Star Wars: The Old Republic CGI cinematic trailers, he's the guy that Satele Shan fights on Alderaan, the guy that the badass Republic Trooper half blows up with a grenade, and most critically he's the guy who leads the assault on the Jedi Temple. And he wins.
But in the battle there is a moment, an instant, where he falters. Because Malgus does not care only for himself. There is a woman, a Twi'lek who he has known since childhood. A woman he loves. A woman who loves him in return and who will walk through any fire to be with him, who is there for him by his side in his moment of triumph, and who is put into danger in the fight against the Jedi. He sees her at risk and, for the briefest moment, he loses focus. He saves her, but it almost costs him everything. This does not go unnoticed. Other Sith fixate on this connection as a weakness of his and threaten her, but before they get the chance to hurt her she is taken by someone else. The forces of the Republic come back for vengeance, a Jedi who felt her master die when Malgus killed him. They take her hostage and Malgus rushes to her aid, sacrificing everything else to get to her and even trading the Jedi freedom to escape Coruscant unharmed just to have her back safely. They are alone together, and the woman smiles and tells Malgus that she knew he loved her, and Malgus agrees. He says the one thing he never could before, for so many reasons, just before he activates his lightsaber and burns through her heart.
There is a phrase, a metaphor really, that the Dark Side is like a flame. It burns, consumes, transforms. For all its destruction it is somehow beautiful to behold, and it has the power to show one the path forward when all else seems lost and unclear. It can burn away fog, clear a path through attachments and expectations and burdens, but only by reducing them all to cinders. It is powerful, beautiful, but dangerous also. A thing to be feared. Those that taste the Dark Side come away with the intoxicating flavor of evolution on their tongue, yet as the flavor fades they begin to feel the pain. The burn. The wise flee, telling all who would listen that though the taste was sweet the toll of the flame was too great, too high, that in tasting transformation they were diminished. That for all its power, all its warmth, all it's terrible beauty, fire knows only how to burn.
The foolish ignore the wise and charge recklessly in, tasting the flame and drinking deep from its wells of power and fury, and in doing so they die with mad smiles on their lips, burned out from within less than two steps from their home. Then there are the desperate, the arrogant, and the deluded. They say to themselves that the wise were merely fearful, that the foolish were merely reckless, and that they need not suffer either fate. They take the flame in hand, neither fearing the flame nor feeding themselves to it, but using it as one would a tool.
They light a candle, at first.
Then two, then three, then a torch. Small at first, but once they come to understand the flame then they have mastered it, understood it, controlled it, or so they believe. They light more. They light a fire, then a bonfire, then in time a pyre fit for the heathen kings of old. The Dark light of the flame fills the eyes of the damned until it is all they can see and it blinds them. They burn, themselves, convinced they are the ones in control even as all the things the dreamed for are consumed in the blaze. But they are not all that there is, there is still one more supplicant of the Dark Side.
The madman, the Sith.
Not just any Sith, but the true Sith. The final Sith. The refined, distilled, perfect Sith. Not bound to any one Order, though an order was erected from among their number by one who understood this better than most, these Sith are the purest embodiment of the flame, of the Dark Side, both its terrible strength and its terrible cost. For them, the flame is not merely transformation. For them, it is apotheosis. For these are the ones who do not shy from the flame, who neither take ut for themselves nor attempt to wield as a tool. These are the ones who offer themselves up to it as sacrifices. To change, to grow, to die, to be reborn.
They burn.
For the wise, the flame was a scar. For the fool, the flame was a drug. For the desperate, the arrogant, and the deluded, it was a tool. But for these dark martyrs the flame is the end in itself. The fire is no mere tool, it is perfection incarnate. For all others, to burn is a sign of failure. For all others, pain is a sign of failure. For all others, the scars, the agony, the scent of searing flesh, it is all the proof that they have somewhere gone horribly wrong. But for the true Sith? For the true Sith, the servants, summoner, slaves, and masters in all of the Dark power of the flame? For them these things are the proof of their transformation. They wish to die. They wish to burn. They wish, above all, to transform.
The fire consumes all things, and so the madmen aspire to become flames themselves.
Darth Malgus was born and died three thousand years before Darth Bane spoke the words that would define the fate of the Sith ever after, but if they had taken council together then I am convicted that they would have understood each other perfectly. For Darth Malgus knew pain, knew loss, knew sacrifice. And he knew, more than anything else, the absolute importance of taking ownership of his own suffering. He murdered the woman he loved in the very same breath as confessed the truth of his feelings for her. Had anyone else taken her life, taken her from him, he would have broken. But they didn't, and so he did instead. He killed her. He betrayed her. He looked back upon all he was, all he had been, all the trappings of love and culture and tradition, of status and expectation and personhood, and in that moment he saw only one thing. Kindling to set the world ablaze.
For all its power, all its warmth, all its terrible beauty, fire knows only how to burn.
And so it was that Malgus died, died with his love, died with his heart, died with the fire of the Dark Side burning through his soul. And so it was that Darth Malgus was reborn. Not a man but an idea personified, dark Fire Incarnate. An avatar of the Dark Side, the two powers combining, fusing, submitting and enslaving in equal measure. From the Crucible of conflict something greater is born, something more than the sum of its parts.
The madman dies, and from fire the Sith is born.
But for all that a fire may consume, all it may devour, all the long years it may lie smoldering and slowly spreading its embers throughout the tinder-dry foundations of the of the world, for all it may prepare itself for the day long awaited when it shall spring forth from the shadows in a terrible blaze to burn the old world upon the pyre of its sins, the final truth is this. That for all its power, all its warmth, all its terrible beauty, a fire knows only how to burn. And in the end, a madman can only burn so long.
When the day is ended, nought is left of their martyrdom save ash and smouldering cinder.
Do you know a great sith? Lana Beniko!
Extraordinary woman! She had a great philosophy about the Dark Side. She didn't want power or control as the main goal, she wanted to better herself and conquer her own things like any other person who lives and have needs, she only used the force as a resource to get what she need like we use our hands to grab things we need.
She saw the power boost and leadership as a bonus, she saw it as a responsability too. She was competent and that brought her fame and prestige, people would respect and follow her because she was good at her job and now she would have new followers but with new followers comes reputation and responsabilities.
She got more powerful so she could get the job done and that makes her a even more efficient leader, she didn't wanted to be a leader or a powerful sith but just a normal person who had responsabilities, dreams, needs, fears and bonds (the player himself can be a important part of her life, even marrying her or something).
She basically said: "With great powers comes great responsabilities" to a open minded stoic jedi and he applaud her.
Vader’s path to the Darkside truly stemmed from his unrelenting hatred of sand, not the will to save Padme from certain death. It’s a common misconception.
He must’ve been real happy when jedha got glassed
Being a fan of Star Wars & Star Trek, when I saw the title, my thoughts IMMEDIATELY went to “I, Borg”, an episode of Star Trek: The Next Generation. In the episode, the Enterprise finds a severely injured Borg drone at a crash site & brings him aboard to treat him. The drone (who is given the name Hugh), becomes lonely because he’s disconnected from the Borg collective hive mind. Steve Shives just did a Retro Review of the episode last Thursday.
Great episode, and I also love the Star Trek franchise. TNG is top tier.
A really cool script would have an actor like Heath Ledger (RIP) do for a Sith character arc like he did for the Joker. One of the greatest mistakes Disney makes with the "bad guys" is they're turned into cartoonish excuses for antagonists. A Sheev Palpatine origins script would be amazing if it had the Dark Knight recipe.
As someone who has seen American Psycho, I would like to remind everyone that story is not about slaughter and mayhem, it is about what happens when a person's mind begins to break. from pressure and tension and stress and a need to succeed nonstop. he forgoes positive relationships, constantly lashes out in a professional manner denies love and intimacy even, he becomes so obsessed with being better that he fails to remember that all of that "verticle thinking" can only go two ways, Up, and then, down. while a more horizontal lifestyle will spread itself out and see love and appreciation for what they already have and what they encounter in their lives. simple things like reminiscing about a loved one who you may have lost, is that of a horizontal way of thinking, you are pretty much closing yourself off to all of the negative thoughts of losing them or not having them around and allowing yourself to become vulnerable through your mourning process. the thing is, he never actually did end up killing anyone, except in his own head. when he calls his therapist to help himself stop murdering people out of guilt he swears that he has killed a lot of people. but in truth, he never killed anyone, it was all a very violent melodrama he had imagined over time,. even his therapist exclaims that he never killed anyone that everyone seems to be completely fine and that he never did anything of the sort over the phone, which is what led him to his inevitable downfall. he realised in the end that he was breaking down, that he couldn't just keep doing his life in the way he already was. and so in the end he had to fall down to the darkest moments in a person's life to reach rock bottom and lose everything, which is why the American Psycho story is such a tragedy. it's a blatant perspective of how bad the verticle-only mindset of progress can wear heavily down on a person's mental physical and emotional well-being until eventually they snap when you reach the top it is like a roller coaster, and everything goes downhill before it can o uphill again. you have to be able to enjoy whatever moments of solace and social interactions you have in your life, or you are more bound to break than you might have ever thought. even your love and sex life will become effected if you are not care of that "progressive" culture. from the jealous desire for your own happiness while blatantly despising valentines Day, or watching others get what you want most, a family a loving partner, while completely ignoring more important needs to just let those things come and focus on what is already in front of you. that desperate desire for the ultimate goal becomes the main stressing factor and you can see that negative outlook as damaging when those smaller building blocks and choices create all of your opportunities both for social life and for your own happiness and success.
Being Evil Sucks trope in a nutshell for Sith
And then you have Darth Maul in new canon. A child who was taken from his mother, Talzin, and crafted into a tool of darkness his entire life. Even he needed his brother, the unfortunately named Savage Oppress, and losing him genuinely hurt him. Then he sought out his mother again, and she ended up dying. He ended up trying to get an apprentice and ally in Ahsoka Tano, for pragmatic reasons, but also because he felt a kinship with her: his Master rejected him and used him even realizing he still lived, and the Jedi Order was willing to throw her under the bus. And this isn't even going into his relationship with Ezra Bridger. It was all for power and convenience, but he was lonely as all hell. He controlled the Shadow Collective, and then Crimson Dawn, and none of it was enough for him. It wanted his old Master Palpatine to accept him. He wanted his brother at his side as his apprentice. He wanted Mother Talzin to tell him what to do. He wanted Ahsoka to help him kill Anakin and defeat the Jedi and the Sith. He even trained Qi'ra as a successor in Crimson Dawn despite her lack of Force sensitivity, and surprisingly well. And then Ezra, going as far as to almost sympathize with the other's past and loss. In the end, Maul at least died in the arms of his self-proclaimed enemy, Obi-Wan.
For me, Anakin and Dooku were lonely. Even Palpatine was, though his mentality would never acknowledge it. But Maul, he almost never had a chance.
Well written. I felt so bad when Maul asked Ezra to be his brother and was rejected. And when Ahsoka rejected him even when he was right.
@@syrenasketches6902 Thank you, I appreciate the compliment. :)
I think the problem with Maul, this would-be Nightbrother become a Sith Apprentice become just ... Maul, was that the seeking of power became his whole identity. It was his whole identity from when he could walk. Unlike Dooku and Anakin, or even Palpatine, who had lives before they embraced the Sith, this was all Maul ever knew. And his seeking of relationships would always be overshadowed by a lust for power, control, and dominance in addition to revenge. And we all know, and saw, where that led him.
@@Treyvah yeah, I sometimes like to imagine scenarios at key moments of Maul's life going a little differently and wondering if that would change his ultimate fate or not. Probably not, but it's fun to imagine any possible redemption for him.
That's what I love about the Sith is that they really don't try to hide being the evil bad guys of the Galaxy.
I must be a sith.
If you look at it from a more dualistic point of view, Anakin really was bound to fall to the dark side one way or another. As you mention yourself, both the Jedi and the Sith are quite extreme in their viewpoints and ways. In order to bring balance to the force, the slate had to be cleaned first. Anakin brought balance by first diminishing both sides and thus allowing new growth to come from that.
Most of the time Sith Lords - if they don't start out mad, sure as shit become mad, if not from the darkside, then from the extended puppeteer show they need to put on CONSTANTLY to HIDE themselves from the Jedi.
there is also the fact that the more you look at them, the Dark Side act like an performance enancher steroid; sure it make you stronger and faster but it also had serious health consequence, both to the body and to the mind
Sith are lonely cause all they want is power even if they form emotional attachments with a partner those feelings are deened as weakness. An example being darth bane, dude cut down his psrtner cause she made him vulnerable.
I think Malgus also killed his lover so that he would have no more weaknesses in his eyes.
I don't recall Bane doing that. Unless you mean Githany, in which case, she left with Kaan and was killed in the thought bomb. They were in a romantic relationship for a short time, but her insistence on following Kaan put a wedge between them. Bane then resigned her to her fate.
“Of course I cultivate attachments. They are a source of passion and thus power. Hate and Anger are not the only sources of strength the Jedi Order suppress in Force Wielders through the Galaxy to keep us weak - they forbid Love for the same reason.”
We need a collab between Geetsly's and Generation Tech
11:12 this got strangely therapeutic. thanks, dawg.
I always listen out for “Checks and Balances”
4:27, 4:33 More specifically, to power their will. Pain, fear, anger or hatred are all useless to a Darksider that lacks the will or focus to channel it properly (take, for instance, how unstable Anakin becomes after becoming a Darksider to the point where he strangled his pregnant wife, the very person he turned to the Dark Side in order to gain supposedly existing power to protect and then was beaten by a less powerful opponent due to a mistake) or have too many conflicting or inconsistent emotions to use as fuel for their power (take, for example, how Vader’s abilities began to falter as he became conflicted over how to handle Luke).
While Jedi and other Lightsiders primarily use their will and focus to channel the Force (as well as to either suppress or regulate their emotions depending on the individual’s personality), Sith and other Darksiders primarily use emotion to fuel their will and focus to channel the Force with greater intensity (while also allowing them to access more of their potential and power they already have with greater speed and ease). But, Just like a Lightsider can weaken or fluctuate in power due to disruptions to their will or focus, especially by emotion, Darksiders can similarly wane and wax in power depending on their emotional intensity and ability to control it (as we see individuals like Asaaj Ventress, Darth Maul and Savage Oppress gain temporary power boosts that allow them to withstand great adversity or easily overpower opponents that were fighting even with them moments prior, but only when they were sufficiently motivated through intense emotion caused by external, extenuating circumstance, making it sporadic and otherwise unreliable). This fact is another reason why Jedi chose to follow the Light Side, as it relies on and indirectly encourages an individual to build discipline and stability in their minds and emotions and overtime allow them to channel and control their power more consistently.
Palpatine was one of the most effective Sith because of his ability to control and utilize his emotions combined with his unbreakable will and focus on his ambitions and his naturally high potential in the Force.
Snacks are a lie, there is only hunger. Through hunger, I gain fear. Through fear, I gain anxiety. Through anxiety my chains are forged. The Dark Side of the Force shall imprison me.
I must be a Sith because so am I
I dunno, Sidious always seemed pretty happy, I mean he loved having a good laugh. That dude really, really enjoyed what he does. That said, there was a very brief moment after Palps offed Plagueis where he felt strangely lonely as the only being left to carry the grand Sith plan forward; though that didn't last long.
I came to this channel for the bite size and full course lore vids... But I stay here for the times you say some real shit about the world we live in and society and all that. Keep it real my man, thanks for your words and your vids
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This goes along with something I've thought for a while about palpatine: that he was bored out of his skull by being in power, and that's the real reason he allowed himself to be killed by Vader's hand at the battle of endor.
Throughout history, the sith have never really been on top. Sure, they've come close, even at one point brought the republic to near total destruction, but they've never really been unopposed. Even in the example I just gave, they were still driven for more power, as the sith lord in charge at the time was still trying to become a god.
But then the blockade of naboo, the clone wars, and finally order 66 happened, and the jedi were all but destroyed. The sith had finally won, and there was no more power for palpatine to gain. He had become the Senate.
Then we see palpatine becoming reclusive, not showing up to the Senate, unless, once again, a situation brewed that gave him the chance to flex his political skills, just like it did with Admiral Rampart. Then he was ready, maybe even eager, to step in and flex his skills to manipulate the masses.
But he was a Sith through and through. The death star was built, the Senate dissolved, and the death star was built again. And palpatine prepared for his death, in 2 important ways.
First, he set up a secret project to clone himself, so that when he died, he could return to power. Which, if he'd used that right after Endor, would be an absolute crippling blow to the morale of the rebellion. Imagine it. They just destroyed the death star, again. They killed the imperial head of state. But he didn't die. He's still there, and there are rumours of another death star. How can the rebels possibly defeat an unkillable enemy?
But he didn't do that. He waited. Why?
The second preparation was to make sure that the empire couldn't outlive him, that it would fall apart without him. And it did. But why would he want this if he was prepared to to return?
I believe that by the time of the battle of endor, palpatine was bored. He'd conquered his enemies, built massive planet killers, and they weren't satisfying him anymore. At some point, the amount of power a person has accumulated becomes just another number. What good is having power when there's no one to challenge it?
So he went to endor, boarded the DS2, and challenged the rebellion once more. He planned to wipe them out, and brought the last powerful jedi right to him. To turn him to the dark side, he told himself. A new challenge, finally.
And he was challenged. Luke refused his offer, and had to be destroyed. Palpatine ignored his rational mind's warnings that Vader cared for his son, and would react protectively, the same exact trait palpatine himself had exploited to turn him. And he tortured Luke, and Vader stepped in. The rest is history.
Then the empire collapsed, the emperor found his cloned body, and waited. Waited for the Rebellion to dispose of his failed lackeys, become the new republic, until at last they were powerful enough to threaten his new plan.
I like this idea. Of course, I don't think a lot of that was conscious--I don't think Palpatine had that much self-reflective power--but it seems remarkably plausible.
@@samueldimmock694 True it would have to be subconscious. Where the back of his mind is letting certain inconvenient details be forgotten, for example, or driving him to prepare for a specific outcome.
Those that seek power above all else should never have or wield it as they are not fit for it.
this is why I want to see more of Dooku man.
Hes just too similar to Anakin.
Well having the Rule of two can definitely not help that. 😂
You'd have some fun going through Star Trek and their Admirals and Badmirals.
That thumbnail is nice, and I can see Vader immediately crushing that butterfly with the force afterwards.
I would sacrifice all my friends if means I would find someone that truly love me.
Damn that be depressing
One is the loneliest number...
Obi was more like Anakin’s brother than his father. I believe that was the issue.
Whoa bro can you be my therapist Allen...This hit me right in the feels!
1:26 sold
Why the Sith did not have institutions and regulations like in those cultivation manhua, novels and series such as Against The Gods, Martial Peak and Battle Through the Heavens? If they did, I think the Sith will functioned a lot better as an organization and an Empire. The arenas will be the places where killing opponents are legal, the Sith alchemists might find a way to expand one's lifespan or improve one's connection to the Force or even both by concocting pills and the Sith sorcerers can be in charge of making, upgrading and refining Sith artifacts to help the Empire's cause.
May the force be with you
Droids have feelings. And consciousness how there's no existential debate creating consciousness or whatbis consciousness
The Sith are selfish yes, but it is more complicated than that. The Sith school advocates Power as the ultimate goal, but each Sith has the opportunity to seek this power in their own individualistic way. Darth Ruin for example, was so selfish, he thought that he was the only true sentient being in the galaxy, and everyone else was for him a mere illusion. The Brotherhood of Darkness on the other hand, were closer to the Jedi in thinking that they should work together and decrease the Will of the sith to fight among themselves. The Order of the Dark Lords is in my opinion, the purest expression of the Dark side. These Sith saw Power as a God, an abstract and yet personal expression of the Force that had to be achieved at all costs. They didn’t sought their own personal power, but to increase the power of the Sith overall through apprentices killing their masters over and over again… until a millennia later, their vengeance was fulfilled. The Sith of Bane mastered political manipulation, lightsaber combat, force powers, all not for their individual selves, but for an Idea: the greatness of the Sith through the destruction of the Jedi and their complete dominion over the Galaxy. They were selfish, but in a very special way we could say.
Given that the Sith subscribe to a hobbesian and elitist view of life and the universe, loneliness is what keeps them alive, until it doesn't.
The cake is a lie.
Well done-great analysis as usual.
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What does processed food even mean . Doesn't cooking count as processed
Anyone else hear him say Powhatan…?
Hello there friends welcome back to another episode of Generation Tech my name is David… I have finally accepted that I am not and will not every be Allen so I say Guter Tag
Bateman is a sad story
that dark saber cosplay sword is kool!
Wow the people who say passion love and all of that are some of the most lonely people
What I’ve taken away from this video is that Patrick Bateman is a Sith Lord.
Brilliant
Im lonely does that make me sith
If the sith are lonely than maybe im a sith XD
Same :(
Does this mean I’m becoming a Sith??
Good video
I hate the sequel trilogy I really do but one question I always asked was why Kylo wanted to be like Vader so much he was miserable the entire time he was a Sith why would anyone want to emulate him “I want to be like like you grandfather a mutilated crippled burned man who’s basically the pet of a sociopath whom he constantly tries to replace who he groomed over the years to trust him as a mento which resulted in you losing everything you knew and love for endless suffering” what part of that sounds appealing
Because Vader: killed the Emperor, seemingly ending the line of the Sith and the greatest evil the Galaxy had ever known; destroyed the corrupt governments of the Separatists, Old Republic and Empire; swept away the flawed Jedi Order of his time and set the stage for a New Jedi Order that would not repeat the mistakes of the past; and because he wasn't afraid to make the hard choices that had to be made in order to do all these things. I know I'm reaching a bit, and I don't think that the Sequels were well written, either, but Kylo Ren said he wanted to finish what Vader had started, and given how horribly the New Republic and New Jedi Order failed, plus the existence of the Empire II and its not-Sith leadership, perhaps he was thinking more of the good things than the bad. Also, he was heavily based on Jasen Solo from Legacy of the Force, who became a Sith because that was the only way to save the galaxy from civil war and because he was strong enough to stay on the straight and narrow, unlike gramps--or so he thought; he was about as wrong as it's possible to be.
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My educatad guess is that you are/will be fascinated by norway. I believe your ideal sosiaty is norway or at least how it used to be.
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really? its almost like they kill everyone whgo gets on theirs nerves even a little bit
I wonder who writes these scripts. Sounds like a social sciences major. Maybe a team? They should do a little more research into the source material; Sidious clearly placed a lot of value in Anakin and intended to raise him into a Sith even more powerful than himself.
Bro the video is great as usual but just a little note: the majority of the Sigma Male memes of Patrick Bateman are just that, memes. They're parodies, and 90% of the people that enjoy this kind of memes know it. There are obviously exceptions but that's at least my experience
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@ 15:48 you said Darth sidious would stab Darth plaguis while he was sleeping.
I think you're wrong cuz I'm pretty sure Darth sidious electrocuted Darth plagueis his breathing apparatus in his sleep using Force lightning
Reminds me of that song from Team Amercia
''Would at least one of you join the dark side? Please, I'm so lonely.'' - Emperor Palpatine.
I'm hearing him say this in his Robot Chicken voice.
That actually makes sense, as in Legends even after he won, he wrote that Sith does need to take apprentices.
"Choose someone as a successor and you will inevitably be succeeded.
Choose someone hungrier and you will be devoured.
Choose someone quicker and you won't dodge the blade at your back.
Choose someone with more patience and you won't block the blade at your throat.
Choose someone more devious and you'll hold the blade that kills you.
Choose someone more clever and you'll never know your end.
Despite these cautions, an apprentice is essential. A Master without an apprentice is a Master of nothing."
Studio C had the best parody Palpatine, I need to go watch the roommates video again 😂
Christopher Lee did an interview in the wake of his role in star wars.
One quote from him sticks out to me: When you're at the top of the ladder, there's only one way to go.
Edit: spelling errors.
That's why there's only ever been one "Good Sith" Darth Vectivus. He had a strict code of honor and principals to balance his dark powers. And when he died he wasn't alone, he had colleges and friends and probably a family. He was probably like Uncle Scrooge from Duck Tales, shrewd, manipulative and tactful, but he never crossed the line of being evil and cruel.
It has been theorized that Darth Gravid was his apprentice. But, what if he was also his son? Plot twist.
Without a code, you can only serve yourself.
@@jakeolenickii1349 The Sith serve themselves even with a code.
If I recall, this guy used his powers to build a large and successful mining company, but did so without killing or ruining anybody. And when it was discovered that there was a dark side nexus in one of his mines, instead of doing what most Sith would do and expending his worker's lives to have them try to excavate it, he instead closed the mine out of concern for his workers' health.
The whole apprentice thing never really plays out as the long term friendship that it seems like it should.
I feel like it’s because most of the sith were assholes to their apprentices and treated them like they were below them. Plagueis is one of the few sith who didn’t treat their apprentice like garbage and had his apprentice not been the ever unhinged palpatine, the relationship would of most likely worked.
I’ve actually always been rather curious about how different things would of been if Palpatine failed to kill Plagueis, resulting in him dying instead. Like would Plagueis of been kinder to Vader and rather then giving him a suit of armor that was weak to electricity, would he have given him armor that was actually useful and good.
@@SirFlooberis
Considering Plagueis may or may not have created Anakin via his Midi-chlorian experiments, maybe Anakin would have been on the receiving end of "I'm your father."
The Sith try to substitute basic human needs like love and friendship with power and strength but that's not something any living thing can live off of. The Sith by their very nature are doomed to be forever alone.
well not all sith are human so
@@Cambaliza no but atleast in a fictional sense any of us who are sentient tend to adopt that human trait of being social creatures and with that come similar needs.
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THE HUTTS
Allen: So the other day I was taking apart my microwave, trying to turn it into a particle accelerator because I have dolphin ghosts in my walls...
Me: [nods] As one does, carry on.
That's silly... Got find an antique CRT monitor or TV 😉
Doesn’t that loneliness and other negative emotions give them Dark Power.
Probably makes a feedback loop, Dark power-> Loneliness -> negative emotions-> Dark power
That makes sense. The Jedi can't let their emotions get to them, so they probably turned Sith to force themselves out of those emotional shackles so they can be with their loved ones
@Homer More like the kid who was raised in extremely strict environment so once they got old enough they began to rebel in every way they can and turn into the extreme opposite of what their parents were trying to force them to become. So they go from one self destructive extreme to the opposite self destructive extreme. aka jedi tons of rules no emotions, sith few rules and living off of hate and emotions
But yes jedi and sith are inevitable because when you have thousands of force sensitives you are bound to have a few with extreme viewpoints, but you do not need one for the other to exist
@@UAVwaffle I would say sith is inevitable, the Jedi isn’t.
The thing is, it’s really hard to convince force sensitive individuals they should serve the force and none sensitive people when they are obviously born superior. Without the Jedi and their teaching, no one will willingly devoted their life for nothing in return.
Eu has lots of dark jedi, even multiple Luke’s students turn to the dark side. Exar kun, joruus cbaoth, jacen solo…the list goes on. These people can easily mind control entire senate, wipe army out in a instant. The kind of power weld in a single man’s palm- which is why Jedi result in such extreme methods to suppress that impulse. There were tons of micro dark side align orders yet only Jedi remained as the only light side institute.
If one days the Jedi was snuffed out completely, nothing will stop the force user’s eternal regime over normal folks. Just look at old palpy, without the Jedi rebellion don’t stand a chance.
@@kail4997 I kinda agree with you, yes I think the sith are statistically more likely to form then the jedi because it only takes one or two jerks for there to be a sith order, meanwhile you need quite a few jedi devoting there lives for a jedi order to form. Then again we should consider the real life ratio of murder/hate cults to anti emotion religions (I say religion but there is an argument for the jedi as of the clone wars to be a cult, but that is a different conversation). Also from what I have seen force sensitives are normal peaple, but if you use the light side you don't get your mind corrupted to do good, but if you use the dark side it does seem to physically change your brain to be more evil which does greatly increase the likelihood of a sith cult.
So ya I guess the sith are more likely to form then the jedi.
I also want to mention I do not care if star wars media claims something can do something, I look at what we observe happening more often. Like if something says Darth Vader can destroy planets, but we have 5 cases of him struggling to pick up a rock, I would go with the rock picking up to be his limit. (not to day that he is that weak)
@@UAVwaffle not saying Vader can destroy planet or something, but he can definitely kill 200+ rebels without a scratch. I mention these sith not to sheds light on how powerful they are, but these are all examples of some force user arrived on a no name planet and instantly became ruler by beating everyone into submission using only a glowing stick. Some folks were born with the force while some were not, that in itself was inequality.
We do have less psychotic killer irl but that’s because we aren’t born with superpowers that kills anyone with a mean stares . Much like what watchmen presume of a real life super hero. Even if a dark side despot die in their self destructive behavior, another one will just pop up somewhere because force user born randomly.
The only thing stopping Star Wars going full dune was the jedis, people should cut them some slacks.
Wow. Very well said about everything here. Great advice for younger people. So many miss the point of movies like American Psycho and Fight Club… it’s mocking or showing the ridiculousness of things and instead, people see it as a path. It’s lost on them. Need far more insightful TH-camrs like you out there.
Ah, yes, never forget the iconic moments in the Star Wars extended universe as featured in the movie Good Burger: mondo burger keeps trying to tempt Ed to join the dark side and Otis, who is actually a retired, exiled Salvatore Tessio, uncovers Mondo Burger’s efforts at sabotage.
As weird and strange as it is, playing a light side Sith in the Old Republic mmo was the sole moment when it felt great.
Learning the dark arts while still keeping your humanity and (some) of the jedi values, balancing them together and there were a lot of moments meeting some characters where it paid off.
There's also Kreia and Revan from KOTOR which were good example, seeking power and knowledge but still balancing dark and light side. There is only the Force.
It was particularly satisfying when I played as a light side Sith Sith Warrior (not a typo - my character was of the Sith species). Hearing some of the light-side choices being given as justifications for certain actions, particularly when sparing the Jedi targets to get at the desired apprentice. Listening to her shock over seeing nothing but the light side in my character and being aghast at her master so willfully turning to the dark side upon her assessment of my character was rather satisfying to watch. Then when I convinced her to adhere to the light side as she became my character's apprentice and got to see her grow into hiding her light-side leanings from other Sith, oh, it was just as satisfying.
My favorite of the conversations with her was when she asked why my character adhered to the light side despite being Sith. The response I chose (it has been years since I went through this, so I do not remember if it was light side or neutral) had him say that there had to be something in the Jedi Code that gave the Jedi the strength to withstand and even beat back the Sith while the Sith Code often led to self-sabotage and thus failure, and thus studying the Jedi ways had to at least be considered, even if one never becomes a Jedi.
@@DavidRichardson153 I haven't played sith warrior aside from the starting area but the Inquisitor has also a lot of moments like this, especially against particular characters (both jedi and sith)
In my mind it was always the pursuit of knowledge that drives my character and while playing, the dark side choices were always against that, either by simply killing or destroying who and what could give me that knowledge.
Like most of the time, playing as dark side was just being a crazy maniac that wants to kill and destroy while the light side was more about getting powerful and acquiring knowledge to become more powerful, being able to dabble into the dark arts while still having (some) compassion and wisdom of a jedi
@@ZrodyApo Yeah, I experienced a lot of those same moments with my Inquisitor build, though unlike with my Warrior, I did not finish my Inquisitor's run - I got roughly halfway through before circumstances forced me to stop playing for a while, and that "while" stretched out into "a long freakin' time."
Regardless, I personally find it extremely difficult to make dark side choices. Sure, there were a few that made perfect sense to do - the one as a Republic Trooper, when the future medic companion identifies an Imperial officer she had previously served with before defecting and, if asked, recommends that you "discharge your blaster into his head," stands out the most to me - but generally, I just do not like building and playing evil characters, especially not cartoonishly evil ones, and the dark side choices frequently struck me as cartoonishly evil.
To me, it was far more practical to just be kind or at least not hostile if possible. Basically, I always play under the "don't be a d^ck" rule. That makes me examine each choice with a lens of "Hmm, which is the least likely to make me out as a real d^ck and thus have to deal with more problems that I could have avoided later on," and that, far more often than not, means choosing the light side.
""paying off" and "nation building" are not the same...
@@DavidRichardson153 kind of weird and funny that a lot of logical and practical choices on the Republic side are dark side and on the Imperial side it's light side
I don’t take Star Wars too seriously (Especially the Jedi) but the rule of two is a really sophisticated philosophy.
I mean to each there own but i dont see it as sophisticated.... it litterally stated that there should be one to hold the power and one to crave the power it was literally to negate intersith fighting for power
In a way, it's actually very selfless. You're literally raising your own killer for the sake of the Order's survival and future.
@@FellsApprentice You wouldn't think they'd go for it but it speaks to a sith's ego. like a challenge, what if i'm the one that nobody not even someone iv trained can defeat, there always wrong of course. The cycle continues and the sith grow stronger.
The Sith Purebloods had it right. Imagine, a species with a natural affinity for the Dark Side but still have a functional social order with clearly defined roles and duties. Look to King Adas for inspiration. He united Korriban and died for the love of it against the Rakatan.
The Sith code states that their ultimate goal should be to cut their chains and be free. The great trap of the rest of their Orders philosophy is that they seem to fall for the idea that freedom is being on the top of the ladder, instead of being able to step off of the ladder and stand apart from it entirely.
Well said ❤
Small disclaimer American Psycho took place in the 80's not the 90's. Awesome video other wise especially how you expose what's wrong with extremists views on any side.
Yes, the Dark Side DOES have cookies, but they're oatmeal raisin.
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These videos really show to me why the Nightsisters are the most balanced of the force traditions. They are still messed up in their own way, but way better than the two extremes of the Jedi and the Sith.
Those and the Grey Way/ farers are my go-to. Not the emotionally unstable Sith or brainwashing Jedi
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No, they aren't.
Jedi aren't extremists. They're the closest to right. This idiot notion of balancing the Dark Side and Grey Jedi as using the Dark without getting corrupted is fanfiction bullshit coughed up by idiots who didn't bother doing even a smidge of research on the subject.
It's a sad life of being an Sith when you only care for is power.
*Introverts: **_"We don't have such weaknesses!"_*
Sith: "With the power of Dark Side you will rule over everybody!"
Introvert: "Does being the ruler includes more interactions with many people?"
Sith: "Well... Yes."
Introvert: "Hard no. I already have enough human interactions I can stomach."
@@Myrkin 😂
So true!
Lot of people dream of using the dark side for the cool powers but ignore the consequences such as the Sith
The Sith: Allowed to have attachments but has no social groups
The Jedi: Not allowed to have attachments but has a vast social group
The sith sacrifice things like love, family and friends for things like power and security.
Yeah. At least, those illusions of power and security. But I totally agree.
How's that different from IRL?
count Dooku is a fallen jedi in my opinion. He never went fully to the dark side. He embraced it, so that way he could be in an advantage.
I recall that from what is now considered Legends, that there was some important nuance here. There was considered a difference between someone who uses the dark side, and a Sith. Yes, the Sith used the dark side quite a bit. However, the Sith were a philosophical structure, which made them behave very different than someone who just uses the dark side, and which allowed the Sith to tap in to some esoteric and particularly dangerous powers.
I consider myself as a loner and as a introvert but I still follow the light side of the Force.
Be careful, normally introverts can be easily persuaded by the dark side. Is best if you understand both sides. And look beyond the horizon. Last thing you want is be isolated, or have a very narrow mind approach, such as the council, senate and the high republic.
As for me I could be a jedi, actually a fallen jedi or grey jedi, I like to experiment, take a chance, and gain experience. In other words live in the way of the force. If that makes sense.
I'm wondering now what might have happened if Vader had succeeded in turning Luke in RotJ -- if the two of them had been able to defeat Palpatine together and take over the Empire. How would Sith ideology change when the master and apprentice are father and son? Do you think that "shred of good" in Vader might have led to a more functional Empire?
Personally, I think Vader would have made an excellent Emperor, especially with Luke helping.
Ok, now that is an intriguing thought. And I do believe there is a difference between if he had succeeded in turning Luke in RotJ vs convincing him to join him in ESB. Though in RotJ, I must say I think Luke had "pacified" Vader enough that Vader still would have simply turned him over to the Emperor and the Emperor would have eventually convinced him to strike Vader down and take his place. Possibly. If ESB, they probably would have struck down the Emperor and taken over the Empire, but Vader would still be too steeped in the Dark Side and corrupted Luke, as Luke was still very malleable in his "Force leanings" and the Galaxy would have been endlessly stuck in the dark times.
@@warmasterdorn Vader never had a mind for governing. He was a career warrior.
@@LucasDimoveo He also wasn't an idiot, and he learned and matured quite a lot after his little "industrial accident" on Mustafar.
A lot of other channels, talk about joining the Darkside like it’s a way of leveling up. In reality it’s more like cheating at a sport by taking steroids. Sure you gain a lot of strength and speed quickly, but you also become a jerk to be around and are prone to angry outbursts causing you to lose close connections of family and friends. It’s a path to unnatural power because the path itself is an unnatural and consuming path.
And it also jacks up and deteriorates your body over time. That's actually a really great "real-world" example.
Yes, exactly. Like Nemik in "SW: Andor" says in his manifesto, that tyranny takes constant effort. It takes so much work to keep up with even the appearance of being menacing and intimidating.
@@enderlionheart4497 - Exactly. Vader isn't a dude wearing expensive clothes or even a symbol of vanity. He is a bitter, lonely amputee who tried to kill the love of his wife---in pursuit of this power that he desired---and has to spend the rest of his life encased in armor that hides any semblance of humanity, using sophisticated equipment and probably painful medications just to stay alive.
TL,DR: Vader doesn't look like an Abercrombie model, he's a dude in breathing mask, walking around in an "iron lung" suit.
One thing I've always wondered about the Sith is how they don't all become drug addicted whorehounds, it seems like that would be a huge pitfall for someone who only pursues passion and emotion above all else that would claim a lot of them.
Exactly. In the real world, when someone just acts on impulse and desire all of the time, they are generally inconsiderate of others (and especially themselves). They seem to be driven to only satiating their selfish wants, because their relentless pursuit of satisfaction would never really get fulfilled in the long run. It's just sad, really.
Sith behavior and ideology seems allegorical to the consequences of addiction
@@lucasbaca5869 It is said by more than one Sith that the Dark Side is an addiction.