AngryJoe Plays Dirty Bomb [Angry Rant!]
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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 6 มิ.ย. 2015
- *We know that Bronze Cards give 3 perks and different guns Just like Silver, Gold and Cobalt. I stated towards the end its not TECHNICALLY Pay to Win. However its the drop rates & business model that pissed us off. Where you can end up getting cards you cant use in a pack that you purchase. And where you have to rely on RNG to order to get the Perks and Guns and Scopes that you want. Thanks for defending your new game, we understand your need to! But understand our right to be annoyed by this model that is clearly built specifically for this purpose instead of normal or player selected unlocks, perks, guns and skins.*
**You can now buy all a complete set of a Mercs Bronze Card Variations for $20, which will let you select the best gun and perk loadout. Does that walk the edge of pay to win? Up to you to decide.**
AngryJoe plays the Free to Play team based FPS on Steam currently in Open Beta. Plus an Angry Rant after opening card packs from the RNG and Micro-transactions model in the game!
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You can buy any loadout in the game for ingame credits no problem.
TotalBiscuit, The Cynical Brit tb! PogChamp
Then grind for 4+ hours.
TotalBiscuit, The Cynical Brit You're expecting Joe to actually admit he's wrong. He doesn't care if the misinformation he's spreading is directly hurting the game, all he cares about is finding something to whine about before he actually does his research. The fact that this game has one of the fairest pay models i've seen and people are still bitching about it being "Pay to win" is fucking infuriating.
There's literally multiple ways to bypass the "RNG" of loadouts yet he keeps focusing on the "RNG" When in reality it barely matters.
***** Sorry but you are wrong. Go watch the video before you comment. Also go read his comment in *Bold* letters then come back.
Malik White Hmm? Grind? You play the game, thats the point of games right, to play them? Progression is something that happens as you play, its not the goal, the goal is to win.
''If this starts creeping into Triple A games'' congratulations, Joe, we're there.
He predicted a lot of shit that was coming up, he even predicted fallout 76 having a battle royal like half a year before it was announced
@@UnknownPerson-cq3qv To be fair, that wasn't a very hard thing to predict. Battle Royale is the go to for shitty live services trying to claw back some popularity.
And this is a beta version not a full release
They are forcing you to pay to unlock characters and upgrades you probably don't own
That should be illegal
It's sad. Even large youtuber's like Thequartering are in support of such things like pve microtransactions. These scumy tactics are invading even single player game's and people are ok with it.. It's also disappointing when I see idiots pre ordering or even buying CoD and EA sport games then buying lootboxes, premium, boosters, battle passes, 20$ cosmetic skins, weapons,or premium currency. out right supporting the downfall of gaming.
Who the fuck wastes their time and money on "games" like this.... and why is Joe acting so surprised that its set up to make you want to spend more money? None of this is surprising and all of it is sick. Human beings can be one helluva sick fuckin' species.
Maybe it's just me, but it always seems like Delrith takes great pleasure in getting Angry Joe all worked up. There's this tone in his voice, like he just LOVES delivering news that's going to get Joe in a lather.
Yeah you're definitely right
I'd enjoy it too if i was in his shoes 😂
A+ shit-stirrer :)
To be fair Joe seems pretty drunk here
Makes for great content though lol.
Your screaming was badly planned Joe. You should have started it mid video not at the beginning.
This video should have been called "AngryJoe's gambling problem".
More like: " AngryJoe ruining an awesome game for 600.000 people with his gambling problem and his screaming"
+Dario Delvoije is a good game in fact he just started buying those elite cases without knowing the game
+Francisco Marquez yes I know, thats what I said. I love this game, I have 750 hours on steam in this game
Description.
+Marksi 888 no one is going to read the description after a rant like this, I think he should have started in a positive way showing the game isnt pay2win. But has a system that makes it completely random if your real money is spent well. Or atleast add an annotation on the screen that explains that this game is a lot of fun. If it wasnt for this guy, the game would have been much more populated.
People seem to forget that this is free to play to begin with. You don't have to spend a dime if you want to and you can still get everything.
***** no you can't because they made it so hard to get thing like kick the boss 3 you have to pay. but they made it so hard just to get jems. but to gets some you might have to pay about $119.99. yes i know it a mobliegame but now it going in to console and pc just to play a game.
Andrew Rice what are you talking about? Boss? gems? mobile game? I think you are commenting on the wrong video.
***** His english is so broken i can barely understand it.
sorry i don't know english a person from a kids show/movie/book
your from tin tin
*We know that Bronze Cards give 3 perks and different guns. I stated towards the end its not TECHNICALLY "Pay to Win". However its the drop rates & business model that pissed us off. Where you can end up getting cards you cant use in a pack that you purchased unless you spend more gold to craft them into YET MORE RNG cards (that again you might not be able to use). Also in this game you have to rely on RNG to order to get the "Perks" and "Guns" and Scopes that you want. Thanks for defending your new game, we understand your need to!! I really do. But understand our right to be annoyed by this model that is clearly built specifically for this purpose instead of normal or player selected unlocks, perks, guns and skins. I don't like it and I think its a bad system that shouldn't be duplicated in other games.*
Also, In addition to spending $55 on some cards I cannot use or didnt want at all (due to the RNG). I also had gold credits given to my account, I think something like 90K, I heard other streamers were given even more, like 300K. If you only knew how much time that would take you in game to get that amount of gold, you'd see how even more of a problem the drop rates are and the RNG system actually is. You average 100-200 credits per game after a 1,000-1,500 first win of the day gold bonus, you do the math on how long that would take you to have the amount of gold I used in this video. The system pushes you to pay for the Elite Cases, and you can tell from my video what you get in Elite Cases if you do.
AngryJoeShow Amen, Joe. I don't mind microtransactions if they're done RIGHT. This is not how you do it. Player progression should not be tied to dumb luck. I'm pretty sure Steam Summer Sale is coming up soon too, so that's another reason to not spend money on this piece of shit.
I think the system is amazing, works well, good design... :s
***** Except Joe is wrong again. You can craft cards for any class you choose. You can spend little amounts of money to get packs for any specific class you want, with everything you might need. The system is perfectly fine and even any of Joe's criticisms are mostly wrong except for where you can't chose a specific weapon or scope, but all the weapons are very similar.
AngryJoeShow They've changed the game since, and you're able to buy every single different bronze loadout card for credits. So it's much more accessible now.
Njajen Not to mention you can buy tons of bronze cards for any class you want for less than £5.
It’s 2019 and it officially feels like the word “dirty” should be in every single triple A title
30:18 I’m not falling for corporate! I GOT A GAWD DAMN DOUBLE!!
Cracks me up 😂
Wow, Angry Joe completely missed the point of the game.
Which is
Nicholas Christian Not needing to pay a cent and still get everything... with IN-GAME CURRENCY
Deez nuts that shit never gets old
***** to waste time and money on a shitty free to play bullshit game? no i think he hit it on the dot
SpiffyGamer On PC This game sucks if you don't have GOLD or cobalts
I would hate for joe to open csgo cases if he thinks opening a few packs in this game and getting nothing is stupid.
Brandon Bunch I was just thinking about that XD
Brandon Bunch But to be fair, the Cases in CSGO dont actually give you anything that gives you an advantage in the game.
Brandon Bunch true, except in csgo those are skins which are purely cosmetic and these are actual gameplay loadouts and perks which is ridiculous.
Kyan Farrelly The Dirty Bomb ones don't wither. From copper up there are just skins.
Brandon Bunch Csgo is all cosmetic
Does anyone read the description anymore? Clearly not. Angry Joe wrote:
"I stated towards the end its not TECHNICALLY Pay to Win. However its the drop rates & business model that pissed us off."
+91MoonKnight But then he stated later:
"You can now buy all a complete set of a Mercs Bronze Card Variations for $20, which will let you select the best gun and perk loadout. Does that walk the edge of pay to win?"
He still doesn't understand what he's talking about.
It's not the fact that he "knows" it's not Pay to Win, it's that he still doesn't understand that almost everything in the game can be bought with credits. If he took a second to look into the game before making an Angry Rant about something he doesn't understand, then his opinion would be valid. But considering he's pretty much an idiot when it comes to understanding things that aren't written in bold text, or don't slap him in the face, he pretty much ruined this game. That's 2 million people (minus me) who are never gonna play this awesome game.
+Q-Nao Back when I played, credits took way too long to get, thus it's still pay to win.
+Kappa, King of Memes. you clearly don't understand what is the meaning of pay to win... you get advantage for money that not paying players can't get.... just because you can unlock loadouts faster with money it doesn't mean it's pay to win.. and in this fuckin game you can't get better game for real money... you get the same fuckin shit what you get for using in game currency...
Attila Czifra Last time I played, it took wayyyyy too long to get the "-in game currency"
+Kappa, King of Memes. I can get 5000 credits in a couple of hours just doing missions and winning 1 time in objective and 1 time in stopwatch. You wait a couple of hours while you go eat dinner, have a shit, do some chores, and hey presto you get another set of missions for another whallop of 1500-2000 credits. If you don't sign in for a couple of days, the missions stack up for you, so you can net 9000 in 1 evening.
Overall I typically play maybe 2 hours of dirty bomb a day for like 7000 credits give or take.
2 days of that, and even for the most typical basic skill player, that is easily over 12000 points.... what the hell do you want after a couple of days gameplay (that should also be fun I might add) that is more than 12000 points? :S
15:51
Joe- if this starts creeping into triple A games
EA- hold my beer
you mean activision-blizzard
Activision did it 6 monts earlier than this game with cod advance warfare supply drops weapon variants
I'd rather people play the game first before commenting on it being P2W or it being from the developers of Brink. I've had a thoroughly enjoyable time playing it. The loadout cards has no noticeable difference between rarities. You get free case drops randomly after a match. If you want more cases, you can purchase it in the store using the IN-GAME CURRENCY. That's right. There's no NEED to purchase anything with real money. The option is there but the game doesn't force you to buy anything to get an edge over players. You can perfectly dominate others with the default mercs that they give you.
The only downside that people may have is that you have to pay to unlock the characters(you start out with 2 or 3 already unlocked while the rest are on a free rotation for you to try out), but again you can do that with the in-game currency. Its a bit of a grind but completing the daily missions can help net you additional cash. Overall my only problems with the game as of right now is the lack of players. So, if you're even remotely interested in trying out a new game(its currently still in open beta), then I suggest you try this one out. :D
Oh and I think Delrith was just unlucky. I got a gold card after like ten cases. And I didn't EVEN SPEND ANY MONEY. Seriously tho guys this isn't any different from opening CSGO cases. The items you get have NO affect whatsoever on gameplay. You don't have to spend money to enjoy this game.
spitrio Exactly. the games is as f2p as you want it too.
and cosniderign that one of the starter classes is extramly strong (skyhammer).
mY only corncern to date is spawn camping. and maybe that Fragge rneeds soem lvoe from the Buff hammer.
spitrio Well that makes one person, because I was convinced to play this game by some friends, and after a few matches of being raped by one character who has a grenade launcher, and then a handful of matches with blatant hackers and no way to report them in the game, or kick them out. "Oh but start a kick vote." Hey guess what , the kick system wasn't working. This game is pure money grabbing garbage put together by a shitty company with a history of putting out complete and total trash.
spitrio are you for real? it can't be... are you from Nexon? are you the one that gave this stupid idea to them?
is not about how rare it is, is not about the different color on the card, the fact is that you get a random merc with a random gun and random perks... "random loot" is not ok, is fucking bullshit, and if you have to play 10 games to afford 1 box (I don't care if you win one or not every game), it is totally bs, and you are not rolling the dice to get a gun and different dice to get a merc, you get random loadout, this is the worse system I've ever seem in f2p games ever, this game was able to beat EA in the p2w market, and it is really hard to be worse than EA
Urs00 with the random cards you can trade them up for a merc you DO own.
Urs00 What do you mean by random. if you dont want random. you can buy specific lodouts in the store. not as good as the ones you might get in random but you can buy them.
ive seen worst system fro f2p. in many games.ever Played spiral knights?
If you dont liek the idea its ok its your opinion but respect others opinion on this one.
The thing is joe is expecting to get everything he wants in the first 40 minutes of the game, and complaining about the heroes thing when games like League of Legends you have to grind for hours or even days to get the character you want
Danex21 Precisely this
Danex21 Although, to unlock all the characters characters in this game, you'll need over a hundred thousand of the in-game currency, which amounts to hundreds of hours of gameplay. The game isn't even throwing you a bone along the way in form of a gold card or two to keep you interested in the game. Nah, bury the player in lead instead.
Danex21 can't you buy the specific Hero you want in LOL? Is there a gambling component to buying Heroes? i don't think this is comparable at all.
Danex21 Thats not the point, the man just spent over 40 bucks but still aint got shit. Microtransactions should stop plain and simple
***** Gold cards offer nothing over Bronze cards other than different skins.
Remember when games were made to have fun?
I member! member when cs go wasn't all about of skins?
well, its fun for me, those micro makes it only free to play, its not pay to win :)
Member when TF2 Added Weapons?
You can have fun on Free-to-play games, too. Your quality of "Fun" is only measured by how much money you're willing to throw into the game to potentially buy it several times over. Behold: The on-line gaming market is boiling down to gambling simulators, and it's all legal! Sadly, these corrupt practices have already engulfed MMORPGs and you can't move one step without a screen popping up asking for some money.
TheNightwalker990 Dota 2: money doesn't change anything, same fun, dirty bomb, never spend anything on this game, still my favorite
Those boxes are just like slot machines. Rigged to make it look close to feel like one more will do it. Dirty gambling practices
bugweasel you can believe it that lootboxes will be age restricted or banned in games very soon.
That's was why other Joe said the House always wins lol
"Free" to play. Free my ass.
The Fedderation Is your ass currently imprisoned?
The Fedderation I'm playing it 100% free and getting great loadouts because I'm not a view baiter like Joe. the game is perfectly free and fine.
The Fedderation The default mercs are as powerful as the paid cards. They just have different roles.
The Fedderation What are you in for?
***** it does not look fine...5$ for a 20% chance to get a good card that also has the possibility of not being a character that you have so you have to spend more cash to get the character. then a .1% chance to get a cobalt card from 2 to 3 hours of game time... absolutely ridiculous if you think this game is fine.
For those wondering, SILVER, GOLD and COBALT are exactly the same as BRONZE cards. The highest rarity for maximum perks starts with BRONZE. After that, it is in fact nothing but rarer skins. There are no "Pay2Win" weapons or perks with higher rarities. In fact, the only difference between rarities are the number of perks and the skin your character and weapon will have.
Fryday At 34:30 I chuckled when Joe said he was gonna try and win with the cards he got from the premium case. If he sucks at the game, there's no point EVEN if he had a cobalt card. I don't know why people aren't getting this. Its not like you're automatically a god if you had a cobalt card
Fryday wait, i didnt play the game yet, explain please.
"the only difference between rarities are the number of perks"
so you hold more perks at once ? because that would make them better ...
or do you only have one and can switch them out ?
Kniv Jesus As I said, the highest rarity for the maximum number of perks is Bronze. Anything after that is purely for rarer skins. Lead has 1 Perk and Iron has 2 perks, but you use those as crafting materials to get Bronze. Bronze is insanely easy to obtain and if you craft them, you'll get them for a specific character. Bronze is also far easier to get in the current game as this video isn't from the current test phase.
spitrio yeah, to claim a FPS is P2W is somehow stupid anyway, better aim and movement will you win the game 90% of the time
Kniv Jesus
Thank you. At least someone gets it. The comments on this video here are just....
This is so painful! All that money :(
ikr?that must be awful opening all those packs and only getting bronze maybe some silver
@Trevor Anthony lmao that's terrible
Love how he doesn't work out that you get 1 card every approx every hour of play and you can craft your way up.
+qzxerty Well he played the game for about 20 minutes total so it's not surprising he didn't get anything right.
***** maybe if this was a full priced £40 game, sure. But it's free to play and follows the same business model as league of legends. Devs gotta get paid somehow.
***** That would generate a massive barrier to entry though.
***** I know what you're saying, but you're wrong. Any amount of money would be a barrier to entry, especially because they've done little to no advertisement for this game.
***** of course paying for internet or a computer isn't a barrier. What online games can you play without an internet connection? That's the same for consoles with an added online fee just for using them. $40 for an online only game won't go well, especially since it's been free to play from the beginning.
And I never said the company doesn't want money. They have to pay for their servers and the developers, which is a lot of money. The way they're currently making money is extremely user friendly since players who pay have little to no advantage over those who don't pay.
From the developers of Brink...
J Wizard Phoenix We should've known better.
J Wizard Phoenix The game with free-running and character customization as the only decent assets, and they put none of those in this.
J Wizard Phoenix and enemy territory
J Wizard Phoenix Brink had the potential so be so much better, I was so disappointed with that game.
Tim Whitehead am I the only one that remembers enemy territory
After watching this video, I now know what game I'm not going to play.
SkyShadow44 as a rule of thumb ... I never play Pay to win games
Lord Zephyros It's not pay to win, like, at all.
SkyShadow44 Don't judge the game by this video.It's as free as any free-to-play game and the gameplay is great.There's 6 rarities of loadouts and from the 3rd tier upwards, there is no advantage, only cosmetics.You can get 10+ free loadouts from about 3 hours of play. Haven't spent a cent and have pretty much all I need after just a few hours.
SkyShadow44 I ain't getting it for sure!
SkyShadow44 it's not a bad game, just a bad business model- that you can completely ignore and just play without spending money.
I have nothing against Joe, but if you want a good and unbiased review for Dirty Bomb, then go watch somebody elses. Anybody elses review.
It's NOT a review... he's simply ranting about the drop rates...
Yes, I know. But not everyone else does. The game is good ad the developers are amazing. But if you wanted to see someones opinion on the game, to maybe help you build your own and see that angry joe made a rant about it, then your opinion wouldn't be too high of it, would it?
anything with slot machine mechanics screams cash grab. Angry Joe knew nothing of the game or the company, that makes it unbiased agaisnt it. A bad mechanic is a bad mechanic. Game play wise it looks like a generic shooter with average map design and unnatractive esthetics. First impressions do matter.
You are right, biased might be the wrong word, but to say that it's a generic shooter is just unfairly harsh. I mean the gun handling and mercs aren't in your standard generic shooter. The maps aren't only beautiful with each map having their own diffrent colours (Instead of brown and grey) like trainyard having a bright mix of green and orange or chapel in a full moon with colours from blue to grey but also have countless trickjump spots and secondary objectives for a fast and dynamic gameplay. The maps also go alot into the vertical, which is nice and you can completely skip any RNG with just buying bronzes for ingame cash. I promise, if you were to play the game two hours a day for two weeks then you'd have everything you need to join a competitive championship, except skill, obviously. The game has many flaws, like the new crafting system, which is bad or the anticheat, which is one of the worst I've seen in my entire life. There are only few maps and gameplay balance is really bad if you are a new player. Some of the reasons this game maybe won't ever go out of beta. But still, this game made me love Splash Damage, the dev team. Even though the team is small, they still have community managers, who push out videos and streams regularly.
Agreed with not being generic shooter unless "generic" means very broadly. I've found the map design to be pleasantly different from the usual shooters (CS, COD, BF...), the aesthetics are quite decent though for me marred by that my system isn't powerful enough to run it at high settings with a decent framerate.
Biggest letdown is the scarcity of maps: only six of them is too little. Agreed.
Character imbalance is true, but so far I've found the biggest imbalance being the difference in skill of new entrants and the veterans from other games being able to wreck opposing teams, but I think that that would be hard to do anything about other than mandatory team shuffles, and honestly it's part of any game for good players to absolutely frag the worse ones, and for the latter to skill up or drop out.
I've started recently and I'm enjoying it. Not planning on using money on it anytime soon though.
Angry Joe should never review the Cs Go case opening because he will explode with anger.
well those just have skins and cosmetics. while this has augmentations for characters along with different guns.
@@frostsoul4199 its still gambling.
@@MazeMaker4Life never said it wasn't
@@frostsoul4199 you implied that it wasn't you idiot.
"They only have cosmetics and skins" implying that it was fucking okay to "only have cosmetics and skins" compared to other bs. I bet you also defend overwatch's loot boxes.
@Erykaldo 120 he fucking implied it you stupid fuckhead
When a drunk guy says it is a bad idea, it is a really bad idea. xD
Hana_No_Shima Funny story, me and a friend once RNG a freemium game and spent $80 of his dollars. I spent 40 in almost no time. My friend lost it. xD But he knew what he was doing with his money. We swore that day: #NeverAgain
***** Because i wont be spending money on RNG like that. hence the "Never again" as in, i wont make that mistake again. ^^
Hana_No_Shima Damn that sucks :P, fuck free to play games lol
aprusfire Agreed. :P At least the ones that are pay to win.
Hana_No_Shima Well yea :D, most free to play game rip you the fuck off lol and make you want to buy there shit
Amazing how these alpha games can not be anywhere near completion YET have a perfectly functional micro-transaction store integrated into it.
Priorities of these developers, man.
I shit you not, the graphics in the store is more developed then in game.
Didn't even play the actual game for more than 5 minutes and still deterred people from buying the game. This isnt a review its someone wasting money and claiming "PAY TO WIN!! SCUMMY!!" because he didn't get what he wanted immediately . He should remake this video and make a real review.Perhaps even take inspiration from a true reviewer such as TotalBiscuit. smh
+Underscorer if by " good card" you mean silver,golds and cobalts ,they aren't objectively better than a bronze card which you can get easily. Those " good cards" you speak of are cosmetic only and can be gained if you just spend time on the game . You can't get everything immediately. Noone wastes their life away for "good cards" it doesn't require that much time.
+Toxic Raven You don't have to get cards from cases you can easily just craft them using cards you have. so those "insane drop rates" don't matter as much as your lord and saviour ' Angry Joe ' would have you think. Play the game or watch dirty bomb youtubers like kandyrew and then make your judgements
***** The only difference is how the character and guns look and on top of that when you unbox or craft a cobalt card it might not even be as good as a bronze loadout you already have. They really are just a side objective you don't need to accomplish. You can wreck a cobalt user with a default loadout if you're good enough.
No that's not true actually. There aren't a lot of pros as a lot of them have left the game so the gamebase consists of mostly beginner or average players and a few pros now and then. That 100 people at all time stat you gave isnt true as well so check your facts. The game is still alive.
This isn't a review
Joe was slowly losing his sanity throughout this video 😂
LOL "Instead of getting to see a white gun, you could have got like 30 cheese burgers."
Christopher Rankin That just shows you how little value for money you get from these F2P games.
The only F2P game that got me was Hearthstone. I regret buying booster packs and will never do it again.
Christopher Rankin I spent over 300 bucks on NBA 2k14 myteam mode. same thing as this, cards with different players with different stats. That was the first and last time I ever got caught up in a pay 2 win game.
Christopher Rankin Ironically, the money spent on cheeseburgers would be money well spent
Christopher Rankin he did not have to buy the cases, ive gotten 2 cobalts from regular cases i got as awards and ive only opened like 30 got 1 gold and 6 silvers and alot of bronze iron and lead
This video should just be taken down out of respect for the game..knee jerk rant due to your own negligence..
Um Actually yup
+Um Actually Honestly he's just "ranting" to rant. He obviously doesn't know that you can easily get 30k+ points a day and that you can craft cards into better cards. And anything passed bronze is just a skin. This guy honestly is bashing a game that is completely "Free to play" And you don't pay for your skill lvl in this game. The fact that this game has RNG is probably one of it's best aspects
22:00 is one of my fav AJ moments, your just waiting for him to realize...
I always come back to watch this video every once and awhile, it’s that entertaining XD
Bronze cards get all 3 perks. Silver and up are purely aesthetics. Bronze cards are really easy to trade up to and perks only offer minor boosts anyways. Understand the game first before jumping to conclusions people..
My first game ever I carried my teammates, who were higher levels than me and with "better" cards. This game is heavily reliant on skill as the developers intended. Too many casuals jumping in and end up getting spawnkilled, throw a tantrum, and make accusations about the game. Grow up people.
***** Sadly, most people don't understand.
It's supposed to be a rarity. If everyone could just buy the Cobalt card they wanted, then it wouldn't be special or worth showing off. Do people not know what gambling is by now? If Joe could just spend $20 or something and get the exact Cobalt card he wanted, then he wouldn't give a shit to ever try to get it. The fact that it's a rarity is what makes people want it, because they will be one of the few to have it.
***** UHhhh CSGO skins???? Opening a case and getting shit skins isn't gambling? What you get when you unlock a case is totally random and yet people buy keys just to unlock a case. Nobody said shit about that to Valve. So why are you shitting on the game here????
*****
I got into CSGO pretty late into the game, late last year actually so you'll have to forgive me for not knowing that.
***** spitrio I think the main difference between Dirty Bombs system and CS:GO is that CS:GO is only cosmetic. Dirty Bomb has its loadouts attached to this rng and so you may get a weapon you like, a weapon you hate and perks that you don't find useful. There is even more RNG to getting what you want.
Chase h is either a dev in disguise or a friend or family of the devs.
He's a man, not a God!
Ryan Kevin Pahl come on comrade!
Alex Gabriel He's a man, not a God!
GreenNinjaTea come on comrade!
Alex Gabriel He's a man, not a god!
Phillip J. Benson Come on comrades!
Come on guys ..who wants a review againe in 2016 ? :D
Well it used to be a fucking great game but they've killed it withe the crafting update. Here that's your Review:)
lol
well, i am only like lvl 30? and allready got eveyrthing i want, without spending a shit, tbw in this , joe see everyting bad, but it not pay to win, the cost is just a progression, would not be fun having all at start, and getting money is ez with missions, it needs NEW BETTER REVIEW!!
*Camn ohn gaiz! Hwu whunts ah reeeeeveeyou ahgehn en 2017?! :[)*
...Oh wait, 2017 is almost over already, never mind!
Can someone please explain to me why playing vegas slots for weapons, skins, and characters is better than simply unlocking them by completing challenges or leveling up in-game?
After watching this video I decided to give it a try at level 3 and with just 4000 coins I got Bronze Rhino 2 Lead and Cobalt Aura. I am not even joking. I can send you a pic if you don't trust me. I am not sure if I am so lucky or developers have watched this video. Now I am kinda forced to play because I got Cobalt for free.
SooFany Why? Silver/Gold/Cobalt are cosmetic only. Joe was wrong with the pay2win rant (read the new description) and basically uploaded this video that is mostly ignorance and outright lying for YT dollars. He claims "Corporate Commander" made DB but he's being corporate commander right now in monetizing him lying about a game.
***** totaly funny and crazy how he ends up! 55 bucks in shit!
Amerika1919 It wasn't a lie, they quickly changed the system to be forgiving with loot rolls and they made the system less shit BECAUSE JOE MADE THIS VIDEO. Watch total biscuits most recent podcast they talked about it there.
Kainoa Borges That is not true what you are saying go back and listing to the podcast again and tell me when they say that they changed it AFTER Joe played it, please.
suspekt2670 Tell me when they say that they changed it BEFORE Joe played it.
And 100 credits a game? Lolwut? I have 3 hours and I already bought a merc
***** And then you also have the daily quests which net you about 5,000 gold, not to mention that you get an equipment case every 4-5 rounds or so.
carl powelson AND ontop of that, they are giving away free Fragger merc codes.
carl powelson Combine that with decent play and within a couple days you can get any merc you want, doesn't seem like pay2win to me......
armuhsinK Really isn't, I earned almost 15,000 credits in a single day.
+carl powelson I been able to get 1k credits + a match, lol he must suck if he gets so little.
What I find hilarious is how Del's misinformation is ultimately pissing Joe off even more.
30:15 joes funniest walk off ever!! "I GOT A GOD DAMN DOUBLE!" I hit the floor in tears!!!
I... I don't get it, what is there to rant about?
its F2P, and its not Pay to win. the only thing Bronze, Silver, Gold and Cobalt do is give you skins and full augmentations but you don't need those, its not like you become overpowered when you have one.
the game is perfectly playable with out them and the cases are meant for getting guns for kits, not for getting a gold card, just because it is gold.
And yes, you get cards for kits you don't have, but that's where the F2P element comes in, grind for the credits to unlock the kits, or buy them with real money.
I have played the game for 8 hours and have had a blast playing the game with the kits and cards that I have.
The only problem that I have with the game is that it occasionally crashes on my system (which is a RAM issue in my PC), nothing else. the game is great!
whatever you do, just don't listen to Joe in this video, try it out for yourself and see if you like it or not. its FREE so don't bother spending unnecessary money on the game.
JH Gaming The point is they are messing with your head to trick you into gambling more of your money away, just like slot machines, and that is EVIL.
chaosegg Funny. I haven't had a single urge to put a penny into them, and I play real slotmachines...
I guess I have this thing called common-sense, alongside basic logic. I don't put 60€ to something before even knowing what I'm putting it into.
chaosegg How is that evil anyway?
brajuhani I guess I have this thing called common-sense, alongside basic logic
and I play real slotmachines... KEK
chaosegg
yes, but that's what Joe is expecting and also doing while you dont have to do that in this game, getting Gold or Cobalt doesnt/does barely affect your effectiveness in battle, if a player is skilled enough he can easily kill the Gold or Cobalt player.
Congratulations for making this game look 100 times worse then it is. I have been playing this game and honestly its the best free to play shooter out there. You really don't need to spend any money and although technically its pay to win realistically its not. So if this video put you off the game i urge you to give it a go before you give up on it .
Tyler Stockton Right? He makes it seem like you HAVE to "gamble" in this game and pay real money to get the good stuff, when bronze cards are all you need, and if you want, you can buy the specific cards too... ROFL.
AngryJoe is an AngryJoke.
Tyler Stockton ever heard of unwind not grind?
Have you ever heard of the game called team fortress 2 or planet side 2 they are much better free to play fps games.
This is just my opinion
Virakbodh Yay I heard of Planetside 2 that's a fucking great game fighting against 1,000 people on one map that's a real free to play game I don't need to do all this roll the dice or spin the wheel shit I can just play the game
So to this day, 7 months later, people still refer to Joe and this video regarding Dirty Bomb being "Pay2Win" due to Joe not knowing wtf he's talking about.
Good job Joe, I hope you're happy with yourself because you didn't know what you were talking about and now the public thinks you were right.
Zachara stfu homie
12alex2 You've commented that exact same thing on so many people's criticisms of the video. You're blindly defending an ignorant and misinformed video left up by Joe after having been presented with evidence time and time again that he was wrong.
Or you and the other people could just read the description and realize that you're the ignorant one...
I came here for the rant.
Used to be a fan of the channel, but not much anymore. I feel like Joe has become very impulsive. It shows in this video. He would only partially listen to the guy explaining everything to him, and then just start yelling. I know thats supposed to be your thing. Your "Angry" Joe. I just feel like your getting mad for the reason to get mad. Yes you can pay to get load outs in this game but the steep level in price to reward isn't all that good which will drive people away. Also, at the end of the day this game is skill based. I've gone against many people with higher rated load outs than me but I can still beat them. At the end of the day this is a f2p game and the company is going to set up a model to make money that not everyone is going to agree with.
*You're had to fix it for the trolls... lol
He is so upset that he opened 70 cases and didnt get a gols or cobalt but those are end game loadouts for people who have been putting crazy hours into the game. Look at counterstrike... Its the same.
BaharamaGaming Still not buying this game.
The game is free...? Anthony Serocco
Anthony Serocco not that u can tho >.>
This is why I hate AngryJoeShow. I just read a review on steam about this game, completely out does him. Explains everything. Care for me to post it?
Porkinchaps And remind you, it wont be made by me.
Go ahead
ayybailey #r5
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Posted: June 22
Making this review for those concerned by Angry Joe's misinformed remark that Dirty Bomb is pay-to-win: it is NOT.
1. Angry Joe's Argument #1: You need a get a high-end loadout card to do good.
Counterpoint: The cards you get aren't game breaking at all. They simply offer sidegrades to the default weapons. I've never lost a gunfight because the other person had a better card than my lead (lowest grade) Skyhammer card!
2. Angry Joe's Argument #2: To get the best cards, you need to spend $55.
Counterpoint: I'm just gonna quote TotalBiscuit's counterargument: "You can buy any loadout [card] in the game for ingame credits no problem." Not to mention Angry Joe's friend who was present during the video told him not to spend the $55. It was entirely unnecessary. The game never pressures you to spend a dime. The only way I'd feel pressured to spend real money is if they put in a skin that gives the overly masculine Skyhammer a super cute pink ballerina outfit (please!).
3. Angry Joe's Argument #3: To get the best cards, if you don't want to spend $55, you have to grind for hours to get enough to buy the card.
Counterpoint: Again, quoting TotalBiscuit: "Grind? You play the game, thats the point of games right, to play them? Progression is something that happens as you play, its not the goal, the goal is to win."
4. Angry Joe's Argument #4: The card system is based on RNG and it's a terrible system.
Counterpoint: So basically the card system is that you get cards from cases (that you get from winning games or using 2 games worth of in game currency to buy -- and no, they don't require $2.49 to open like CS:GO cases!
Porkinchaps That review made me realise what an idiot Joe was in this video. Tried the game out and had a lot of fun.
People are completely thinking that angryjoe hates the game and that's not the case. He just ranted about the RNG and business model...
Lmao. I love how Del is just casually ruining Joe's day
Cos he’s not there to get grabbed like Other Joe =D
You get 1000 credits in one match... A crate costs 1000 credits... This means that each match gives you a new loadout. You can trade up to get better cards... A merch cost 50 000... This means that you need to play 50 matches to get a new merch... a match is less than 10 min. So you can basicaly get a new merch in less than a week of playing. They arn't to many mercs in the game. I think this is pretty fair... And rarest qualities are only cosmetics.
thats not correct btw
+Ganonbros I think they increased the credits earned in a match later in a patch. This is a pretty old video.
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Cases drop like every 2-3 games. Why would you spend so much on a bunch of cases which basically only contain skins?
Skins? Wrong game.
Connor Foley
What? What else do you call things that change the way your character looks by changing their textures?
Billy Mays Here With Oxy Clean
The weapons and perk loadouts don't change beyond like bronze rarity, after that the only difference between the cards is the skin. Bronze is really easy to get without spending a dime. There's a handful of named loudouts like "Recon Rifleman" or whatever, and there's no difference between a bronze version of that card and a cobalt version other than the skin.
+Billy Mays Here With Oxy Clean //Bronze, you get cases which even when it gives you lead, or iron mostly while you can trade-up pretty fast to bronze.
Wow, what a terrible rip off.
Gold boosters with real money? God awful card draw %? Pretty well forcing you to use elite cases...and you'll probably just draw all silver anyways.
FlareKnight Silver/Gold/Cobalt cards are not more powerful than Bronze cards, that can be obtained easily without spending any real money. I have around 35h played, got bunch of bronze cards and have bought two mercenaries without spending a single euro. There is absolutely no need to buy elite cases if you don't want that extra bling on your mercenary.
I like that the community donated money so you guys can mess around with the packs and such but paying into it endorses these practices. We must fight back on these devious schemes
4:38 That d*ck medic who literally walked right past Joe without even thinking about reviving him...
Why not change your youtube channel name to Unskilled Gamer Cries About Sucking and Blames it On The Game
7/10 slay
SHOTS FIRED
+Chris Murphy he wasn't complaining about gameplay at all in fact he said he liked it. he's complaining about the pay2win thing that's present
+Saif Ali Khan its not pay to win your not paying for some op merc or anything the only thing your paying for is the mercs if your to lazy to just grind for them witch does not take long at all or fort he loadout cards for diffrent weapons its not pay to win its pay to progress
Ayanna Williams you do have a point but he was slightly misinformed by his friend
20 minutes in and this is just a PRICELESS watch
5 years later and this is STILL a priceless watch. Oh Joe, how the world has changed
Oh wow I did not expect to see you here.
@Ari Alfonso Who the hell? Ive seen that comment before. What are you doing here?
Lololol classic video. Honestly man it's so funny to me specifically because Splash Damage's studios are pretty close to me, so every time I go past them and see their logo I think of this rant and chuckle.
If you haven't played the game, I would strongly encourage you to play it for yourself or watch totalbiscuits review.
Frankly, the way joe and Dell misrepresent the game is disheartening.
They're just complaining about the drop rates... it's not a proper review.
it still puts the game in a bad light and unfairly pits it very low for other people to want to play it.
lol it was pretty funny tho lol
It is not a review, they only talked about the card system...
Now they fixed I watched all the updates from 2015 to 2017 and the game got to be one of my likings
Lol, I guess it's back to Planetside 2 for me. At least their micro transaction system won't make you feel screwed.
***** Lol, you have absolutely no idea what you're talking about. In fact, Planetside 2 has one of the best (f2p) models of ANY shooter out there. Ask any of the top players that has never spend a single dime on this game.
rolf ski
I can't find the micro in 7€ for a weapon transaction...
Not to mention they raised the cert prices recently even for essential weapons and let's not talk about the laggy Servers + the shit load of hackers...
SchwererGustav800mm Because there's no reason whatsoever to pay 7€ for a weapon that can be relatively easily unlocked by just playing or bought at 50% on a daily sale. Not to mention that weapons are designed as side-grades, not upgrades. Only ignorant people that don't know how to play the game complain about prices. And cert prices are still very reasonable. In fact, guns were becoming a bit to easy to unlock with the inflation in XP over the years. For instance, the first 15 ranks will grand you now 1500 certs, which is very generous and enough to get newbs going right to competitive level.
And the last time I saw a hacker it must be ages ago. They're simply not a problem by any means and so is "laggy servers". In general the game performs exceptionally well considering the insane amount of players it can generate on a single screen. New patches occasionally introduce performance issues, but these get usually tackled extremely fast by the devs.
*****
Yes they did, 100%-350% Price increase for Infantry weapons, AA/AV launchers and MAX Weapons.
But they made Vehicle weapons cheaper from 1000Certs to 875Certs and reduced the SC/DC prices form 700 too 699 XD.
rolf ski
< this ignorant person has played PS2 for over 600houers and i guess that's enough time to figure the game out...
Lol you guys are making it out to be way worst than what it really is.
1) There's 3 daily missions that can easily give you 500 - 1,000 credits per mission and they refresh every 3 hours.
2) There's no "unique" loadouts for silver/gold/cobalt so you can get every loadout in bronze and bronze is pretty easy to get.
3) Silver/Gold/Cobalt LITERALLY have no other function beside cosmetic so yeah.
The real hard thing is unlocking every merc that you want, but personally to me I like that there is some form of progression and you don't instantly have all of them unlocked although I think they could be a weeee bit cheaper.
If anyone is actually thinking of giving the game a try, don't be dissuaded by this video, the game is amazing and is one of the better F2P business models I've seen in awhile.
TrueDPS The video was posted 5 days after release, and before the patch update when you were still getting shit credits and before you could craft Cobalts.
Deep down inside, you could tell Joe wanted a Cobalt card - it really is no secret in this video. But he's really mad about how Splash Damage attempted a shitty business practice. $3 to double credits back then was a terrible deal because it meant you had to play *all day* just to get that silver card (assuming you do well) as opposed to taking the $5 card deal. Another issue is the cosmetic part of the cards, that some people even today still don't know about. The marketing tactic preys on casual gamers, new players, and elitists who think Cobalt is the top tier. When they couldn't be crafted, getting a full Cobalt set was $200-$500 cause there's no way in hell you're getting it for free at 0.01%. Finally, on top of all the money being spent, the guns/loadouts/perks are random. That is why Joe is pissed off in this video. He had every right to expose this practice.
+TrueDPS BRO YOU GET LIKE 1k-3k every 2hours now, (Each mission maximum gives you 1k,not guaranteed to always get 1k but the least you get is 500), I go in everyday play the missions which takes me 1hr if teamwork is smooth sailing and all or most 2hours if I just suck at completing it, once Im done I wait for new missions after 2hrs or so (after completion of all missions), per day I earn 14k, I have a shitload of bronze and Im happy, while this Angry jackass gets money out of now where making me so butthurt that I don't even earn money. I started playing this game around the same time as angry joe, Ive spent 10 dollars (birthday gotta have some rewards) got 0 cobalt and now im having 17 Cobalts, Free2PLay Ftw.
+The Destroyer Yep thats true, but patience pays it all, I have over 900+ hours of gameplay. Updates of getting cash and drop rates of cases are more often, I guess angry joe didn't acknowledge much that it's still a fresh game, I personally would give away my cobalts if trading was possible because Broze is just everything already, you're just paying for skins, I wouldn't give away my Obsidians and Sponsor cards tho XDD
I had a single gold, I traded it so I could craft more bronze so I had more characters with 'full' loadouts
TrueDPS If the missions are daily, how do they refresh every few hours?
I opened two cases and got a cobalt Aura....
why
My second case was a gold skyhammer so
How did Joe get the slanted/curved HUD? When I play, mine is always facing forward.
Holy shit this game's monetization system is bad. This kind of shit should be criminal.
Hexerin Null the silver, gold, and cobalts are no different then the Bronze 3 perk cards other then look of the player. each class has 12 3 perk cards. paying dose nothing but let you skip playtime.
Goobzor Skip play time? You mean it's P2W? People really need to stop trying to use that ridiculous argument to defend awful MTX in shitty f2p games.
oBLACKIECHANoo i can with a no perk card easily kill a 3 perk card. the perk system is stuff like 20% faster reload speed and shit like that. paying allows people to skip the need to make a 3 perk card or get lucky and unbox one for free. the game also allows you to buy the card you want for the class you want. no need to open a box to get one of the 12 best cards for a class. but again best just means it has 3 perks and perks do very little.
Hexerin Null What Joe doesn't know is that unlocking a good loadout only takes a few hours and that the weapons are pretty well balanced. The real grind in this game is for cosmetic reasons only and as opposed to every other F2P game you can actually unlock that with in-game currency.
The fact that they are not understanding how it pulls left or right, depends on which card the line stops on annoys me to no end.
You have no right to complain if you can't comprehend something as basic as this.
They can't even differentiate lead from iron.
Never heard of this game but as soon as I heard the word "cards" I knew what was up
- Dirty Bomb:
Metascore: 63/100.
Userscore: 7.7/10.
People who actually played the game know it was THE hardcore fps with quake C in 2015-19
Honestly, I just see raging out of pure ignorance here. And the guy talking to you (whoever that is) who's telling you iron sights are useless and shit. Seriously? He's not really doing the game justice either. It's not that hard to get the loadouts you want. And all it requires you to do is play the game. What a fuckin' chore. Remember how fun it was in games back in the day, beating the whole game to have the badass extras for new game+? Think of it like that. There's a certain reward in working towards a goal while you have fun getting there. You're honestly blowing up over nothing. You're better than this, Joe.
HisingenWolf I'm seeing what's in front of me, and what was in front of me with this game was shit.
Intelligent people are hard to find in AJ's audience.
HisingenWolf new game+? your comparing an offline game to an online one. not the best example to use. just saying
Casuals... god. Its amazing they arent clever enough to figure out how the case opening works and how much you can earn per match. lol Why does he need someone to tell him how the game works? You'd think someone who plays so many games could figure it out. LOL
umainebearman It doesn't matter since he'll probably almost never play the game again
umainebearman Didn't you really notice that so called big youtubers are usually shit at video games? They have some minor, general knowledge about gaming, some may have even good opinions on certain aspects of video game industry, however most of them, if not all of the bigger ones ("respected") are totally shit at playing games, they take AGES to learn basic concepts of said games and moan about slightest issue, which more often than not, comes from their own ignorance.
ImNotMadara He didn't play the game in the first place.
Pure Hostility It's all about Persona. Good players are generally people that have intelligence and skill, which usually make up for their lack of charisma. The actual good players are terrible for youtube personalities unless they fake it. I'd hate to use this reference, but if you ever saw PewDiePie's COD days (Yes I know), he was an absolute insane shot. He actually does play games to a good capacity off camera, so he's one of those exceptions that fakes his "How the fuck do I move"
Pure Hostility Thats why I don't watch really big youtubers. I like this game and wanted to see how confused Joe would get playing it. He's basically in it for the free stuff his sponsers throw at him and has never been considered by anyone I know as an intelligent gamer. He makes judgements on games after playing them for a couple hours and never touches them again. The youtubers that I do watch are smaller but are both good at the games they play and engaging as commentators.
To anyone who thinks that this game is bullshit after watching this video.
You get 100-ish credits after each match (Anything from 5 min to 15 min long). You can get up to 200 if you play like a god and do objectives.
Equipment cases cost 1000 credits each and are completly random on what drop you get. BUT. You can take the card you got in the drops and craft them into 1 card of your chosen class.
Lets say i have 3 lead cards and i want an iron card. (The 3 cards dont have to be any specific class to be crafted, they just have to be lead)
I can craft the 3 lead cards into an iron card using 500 credits, and i get to pick what class the card is gonna be.
You can then go from lead to iron to bronze to silver to gold and to cobalt using this strat.
Cards also have augments, they are small "perks" that give you bonuses (lets say 25% increased reload speed, 35% faster health regen rate and 50% quieter footsteps)
Lead cards have 1 augment, iron have 2, bronze has 3. Silver, gold and cobalt are not more powerful then bronze, they can only have 3 augments, they are only nicer looking (Kinda like skins from CS:GO)
Del really knows how to play with suspense lol you almost put Joe in the hospital, man
Well I am still enjoying the game and I haven't spent any money it so far.
While there might be some issues regarding micro-transactions, so far it hasn't really caused any real pay-to-win situations.
Agreed,I have not spent any money on Dirty Bomb and I still enjoy it. Like many free to play games nowadays its mainly pay for convenience and from what Dirty Bomb offers for real money doesn't bother me in the slightest.
Jack Pipsam But there are people who will want to do this (but hopefully they wont after seeing this) Plus they were having fun too and chat was egging him on (I was at that stream lol)
Is it PC only?
Dylan Vickers For now yes.
But who knows long-term wise.
Damn. Thanks for the info though.
Counter Strike cases 2.0
Casual Alien tf2 crates 3.0
Casual Alien Completely different tbh. These cases affect gameplay and are much more expensive. CS cases are purely cosmetic.
Will Sankey Referring more to their addictive properties than anything else.
Casual Alien I never bought a case or opened one, I truly hate valve's gimmicks since tf2
***** You'll fall one day, open a case in CSGO, get a red or knife on your first try, and then boom, you'll be addicted.
Unfortunately, its sad he was so uninformed about dirty bomb and how it works. I wish i could have had the chance to explain it to him. with all those cases he opened he could have traded up to a gold card no problem! on top of that i make 1k credits per game and its completely nice to me when i open cases. I get a lot of led with a rare silver every so often! It fair! Also for that gold card he got, if he hadn't squandered all his money at the start he could have bought the merc.
Ikr
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The other guy just make Angry Joe angry, not helping. hmm
Wow! I only get like 145 credits per game. What is your secret?
jackseptic eye Play the objective and be a good team member
2021 and it's only gotten worse. The slope seems very slippery now that we're all the way down here.
You Do realize you can combine cards to get the next tier up... with pretty high efficiency i might add. i think its like 3 of a tier to get 1 of the tier up. so i think its like 13 or 19 lead cards to get a gold card, i cbf math, you get ma point. THIS GAME IS THE BEST THINGS SINCE SLICED CHEEZE EVERYBODY GET THIS!!! do it, just do it, seriously.. its free, just do it. funnest game I've played in a while...
You also have to pay gold to upgrade those cards too, so it's still pretty ridiculous.
DarkeTribute Exept that the fees are small. Seriously, you make more off of one mission than it costs to upgrade a loadout.
Aeolynx You make 150 gold in a good match. It costs several thousand gold to upgrade from lead to iron.
DarkeTribute In a good match, you make 300. Every few matches, which take no time whatsoever on a good team, you complete missions that straight up GIVE you 500-1000.
Aeolynx I'm guessing five minutes at least. That means about let's say, going by the highest value, 1,000 gold every three or so matches. That's 3,000 over the course of about fifteen minutes. So overall, about 3,900 every fifteen minutes. That would mean having to play another two matches for five minutes each to allow you to reach 4,500 gold. I don't know the cost of upgrade, but we'll say 5,000 for sake of argument. That means that the next match would give you 1,000 gold, going by this standard. That makes 5,500 gold and enough to upgrade from lead to iron. That means about 30 minutes just to be able to upgrade a card, with me being rather generous with the numbers and making the assumption that you are given 1,000 gold every three matches, and also that each match does last five minutes each, _and_ that you do well enough to earn 300 gold per match. This is also exclusive of the fact that you need to purchase the packs first to get the four lead cards to upgrade to iron, which in itself costs about 4,000 gold, meaning an extra twenty minutes or so of gameplay. So, just under an hour for a single class that is only tier 2.
Looks terrible
Dodgems why?
Daniel Escobedo Other than the money grab mechanics and terrible, copycat graphic design?
Dodgems the case system isn't that bad and whose graphics did they copy?
Daniel Escobedo The case system or any micro transaction system is terrible, and unfortunately your part of the problem assuming you support games like this.
Dodgems whats wrong with it how overpowered is it?
"And where you have to rely on RNG to order to get the Perks and Guns and Scopes that you want." => this is fucking bullshit and goes to show that Joe doesnt even take a minute to see how it works. You can select and buy the bronze card with specific loadouts that you want (with ingame money or real money). Ingame money is really easy to get. Higher level cards (silver, gold, cobalt, special edition) only change the skin but have exactly the same atrributes as bronze cards.
Ofc you could try to rng by open cases (which drops randomly with good drop% after each game). Now if you level up (after level 7) you get some sort of special case that guanrantees bronze cards. The gold and higher up cards are how this f2p game earns money. (not to mention they clearly state the exact % for you to get the rare cards).
Now about loadout weapons, remember that different weapons only make a tiny difference. In dirty bomb, each class has a special ability and is defined by how well you can ultilize these abilities (somewhat like overwatch). However, you need to play to unlock class or buy the class with real money or wait for every week new rotation (like league of legends)
I want to see Joe do a vid about opening CS:Go cases and see how he would complain about that business model lol. Joe is like the arrogant ignorant fool who would prefer to dump in $$$ to get the best stuff at the start of the game and cry if he doesnt get it first try.
“You can get 30 cheeseburgers for $55” -OJ
Here in 2022 you can maybe get 10 cheeseburgers for $55.
Fact: buying loadouts with real money doesn't give you an in-game advantage, only cosmetics.
Fact: you can get the same loadouts by spending in-game currency.
Fact: you can CHOOSE whatever loadout you want and buy it with in-game money, it costs 17,500, then you get a bronze loadout that is exactly the one you want. You can preview them before buying.
Thus it's not gambling. 17,500 in-game dollars is also not that hard to get. I already bought 2 of those plus 2 mercs in the 3 weeks I have been playing.
Fact: you can also get loadouts by trading up lower rarity cards. This costs less, but this actually is subject to RNG.
Fact: the game rewards you with free random loadout boxes after a bunch of games. Usually 2-3 games. Most of them are lower rarity, but you can get silver and up too. I got one silver so far, but also several bronze.
Dirty Bomb is actually quite different from CoD and Battlefield since it focuses on objectives and mercenaries with different qualities / skills. It does that MUCH more than CoD. It's also faster paced and you require more shots to kill someone. Also the spawn system is totally different, not random spawning somewhere on the map and spawns come in batches.
Casino rule 1: the house always wins.
It's the same rule here, no matter how hard you try, you won't win.
That Sawbones troll at the end-''Awwwwwwww yeah!''
Jesus Christ. Dirtybomb has among the least P2W systems there is that still permit you to gate content behind RNG. It's really no issue getting what you want. Most of the "perfect loadouts" are only marginally better. I've gotten three of the generally considered perfect loadouts (excluding cosmetics, though one of them is silver) in 146 hours of play (less really, but I dunno when I got them). I can safely say that you can run with lead cards without issue. There's certain perks for certain classes that are very very helpful, like "Get up" for sparks, being such a revive centric class 50% more health to revive targets mean you're lots more effective, in combination with the other perk "Quick charge" (or whatever it's called, 25% faster charge on the gun she has) it improves your revive capability by quite a bit. But for you to actually be at a disadvantage in any general pub you'd have to be quite far in already to notice that, by then you've probably acquired a card with those two. If not it's only 500 to re roll three of your many many copper cards (many of which duplicates). It's really not hard to get that card. There's certain classes which have weapons which could be considered slightly imbalanced. For a while the KEK-10 was considered much better than the other SMGs. But the SMG is available in any tier of card for that class and it can't be considered anything but a minor problem. If fragger didn't start with a led card featuring the LMG that might be a problem, since it's such a good weapon that's exclusive to him. But if you were unable to reasonably get these weapons, since they're such a big impact by comparison (excluding get up and other very specific perks on certain classes) then I could agree with the complaints.
The system is slightly problematic in the sense that you can roll into any of the mercs on your loadouts. This will probably be exacerbated as the pool expands. Investing 500/1000 extra after you purchased a merc just to get a specific card would probably be better. I do think people want chances at gold silver and cobalt for all classes though. Doable of course.
What can really be complained about (it has a major negative impact on the games longevity) is how incredibly poorly they monetize this stuff. The prices are outrageous imo. You get so little for your dollars. I love the game for how it plays and how fair the model is to F2P players but Splash Damage need to put themselves ahead a little bit and make things more attractive for the paying players. They obviously have the sales numbers but I can't imagine they're actually making this work well.
Responding to your reply:
"You average 100-200 credits per game after a 1,000-1,500 first win of the day gold bonus, you do the math on how long that would take you to have the amount of gold I used in this video."
While this is true you're ignoring the missions entirely. They offer between 1500 and 3000 extra credits every 3 hours. Assuming you just play daily you can rack up 4000 in a single match if you manage to complete it in one (stopwatch) match (which I frequently do when I don't get "complete X secondary objectives"). It's 20 days just counting these bonuses. The rotation model also gives you a minimum of 4 mercs to choose from. Which is a lot considering what the pool is. The chances of you getting a timed merc decreases with how many you buy of course but by the time this is an "issue" (I'd say it's an "issue" when you've bought 4 merc) a free to play player would have gone through pretty much all of them most likely. Assuming you don't happen to miss a certain rotation.
That you claim it's not P2W in the end is of no real effect. You should know this by now Angry Joe. You post videos on a regular basis and peoples attention diminish. You're actively hurting these developers with your garbage. I can't support someone who makes such inconsiderate and shallow videos. Which goes for most of your content really, but I found it entertaining. Didn't really feel it was of much consequence. You're big enough not to care obviously but I can't deal with this kind of stuff.
Silvers aren't worse than Gold or Cobalt. They can all have the same loadout, it's just aesthetically different ingame.
This is literally buying boxes simulator and sometimes guns.
***** No it isn't. Joe is just a dumbass and chooses to spend his time playing with the loadout system rather than playing the game.
Dismal626 Its a mediocre game anyways. The chance system is literally broken to the point where it forces you to buy more boxes to get better stuff.
It is not pay to win, it's pay to gamble and might win.
***** Here's the issue with that.
1. You don't *have* to buy boxes. You get a free case every couple of games.
2. The loadouts you get in cases, even the gold and cobalt ones, have VERY little effect on actual gameplay. The weapons aren't any better than the default guns and the perks arent any different from the bronze loadouts. Even then, the perks themselves are very inconsequential. They don't change the effectiveness of characters all that much. You can dominate games with the default loadouts if you wanted to and you wouldn't be at a disadvantage.
The only real gripe I have with this game is that the price of the actual mercs is too high.
Dismal626 That and you could get mercs you don't even have. I guess in some cases it just sucks to suck. But that's still fucked up.
***** Like I said, the loadouts in this game really don't make that much of a difference. It's like runes in League of Legends. But even then, runes are far more important.
I'll admit it's dumb to make the loadout system random, and I'd be a lot more pissed off about it if the perks were good, but they really arent anything to write home about. You'd be fine with the default loadouts honestly. I have 250 hours logged and I still play Proxy and Nader with default loadouts cause I'm too lazy to craft them.
Really enjoyed watching this :p But you gotta hand it to them, one thing this 'game' is not is pay to win, clearly. Spent a shit ton of money and you've still not really improved your chances of winning...
+Kevin “Dark Realist” De Vos Exactly. All these people claiming loadout cards give you an advantage have clearly never played the game, and are forming their opinions off of Joe's incorrect observations.
read the description
+So JDM considering lead cards give no perks yet bronze and higher do there is an advantage between "loadout cards".
+Nightmare Yes, but then again it is extremely easy to gain decent loadout cards in almost no time. WITHOUT spending RL money.
DGARedRaven you missed the point fanboy. its spelled out for you if you weren't blinded by your love for this shitty game you wouldn't have even posted that comment. either that or you're legitimately that stupid.
This is like saying that CS:GO is pay2win. It's definetly not.
+Jonathan Torp Or TF2.
Isn't Unboxing Simulator aka CS just cosmetic stuff in their loot boxes?
Honestly guys, they spent the whole video opening cases and not playing the actual game. What's even the point in criticizing a business model that doesn't even impact the power balance in the game, since you can buy bronze cards in bundles without RNG or craft them (with RNG), which are the most powerful cards. Anything above them is just cosmetic. Yes I would love to be able to customize perks and guns like we did in Brink instead of this bullshit, but that becomes irrelevant if you spend the whole damn video ranting about it and not playing the game.
My criticism is far from the business model. Although I love the classes and how they interact together and the complex objective based maps, just like in Brink, I don't enjoy the floaty jumpy combat that is encouraged in Dirty Bomb. I even question why is there an aim-down-sights function if it's completely irrelevant and you're better off fighting from the hip. I would love to see a more grounded, tense and tactical combat (like Lead & Gold or Space Marine maybe) for the excelent objective and class systems that Splash Damage has.
I would have loved if in 42min of playing the game, the AJ team would have at least commented on their impressions on the actual gameplay, class design or map design, things that actually matter when playing the game.
In the video: Angry Joe becomes enraged after blowing his credits gambling. Blames the creator of the game instead of himself.
This would be like going into a casino, playing a slot machine for 10 minutes, raging because you didn't know when to quit and lost all your money, then blaming the casino for creating such a device.
he spend 50$ dollars on this game and got jackshit
Its like opening CSGO cases, you rage so hard that a rare special item or other is next to a blue you landed on..
gg
xd
In an objective-based shooter, giving more score points towards players who focus on those objectives makes perfect sense. I love that, personally.
YOU CAN PURCHASE INGAME MERCS WITH CREDITS GOD DAMMIT
I feel like this man pretends to be mad because of his username.
:^) try again
3:03
I'm sorry but HOW TF DO YOU NOT SEE HIM!?
wandered that myself
Looked like he was a teammate
200 hrs in game and I have gold and colbolt for each merc .... never spent a dime. This is how scrubs play games, jump in thinking skins will make you the best when you cant even aim.
For some reason I doubt with only 200 hrs you have every merc unlocked and a cobalt and gold card to go with each unless you're incredibly lucky...
TriPYB3AtZz I do not atm have every merc owned / unlocked. I tend to not waist coin on mercs I really dont like to play. that leaves 4 mercs I dont own but still have gold or colbolt for.
That's certainly an achievement you could put on a resume.
U dont even know how to spell COBALT card
Oh no did I offend you internet feelings, get a life ... or a job as a spell checker.
I mean, this could actually be a pretty good game if it weren't for this shit with cases and cards. The gameplay looks really fun and I'd love to try it but these bullshit micro-transactions scare me away for playing it.
Crates are easy to get you can pretty much earn about as much money for a crate each game if you're decent maybe sometimes 2 games, but these cards don't affect gameplay very much just a different way to play the class I can still do extremely well with default cards
Danex21 lol you do realize we heard delrith said its like 6 hrs of matches jsut to save up enough for 1 crate.. ya hats easy as fuck lol.. and btw you can tell this game sucks dick already.. its what? aplha beta or some shit? and they already put in microtransaction thats beyond horrible?
***** Which you need boosters for to be competitive.
Mad Moxxi I won one game and got 650 gold, that was without and challenges being won. A case costs 1000. If you lose the game then yeah you get like 150 gold.
Abn0rmal wtf are you talking about? DO you know that silver, Gold and Cobalt are only different skins? THe loadouts are the same of the bronze one :|
I love how most of the comments went from "This game must suck!" to "JOE IS JUST RANTING FOR THE SAKE OF RANTING, HE WAS JUST BEING NEGLIGENT GAWSH!"
+Jonathan Pepper Because the game doesnt suck and he came into it with not all of the information. Honestly in his position he should make sure he has all of the information before doing these videos.
filterdecay While I do agree with that fully, I'm just poking fun at the fact that the commenters did a complete 180 in terms of how they feel about this video, and how some are calling it a review when it was just Joe being incompetent (No offense to him on a personal level, but even he has to admit he was being stupid with his money.) and being angry about it. He probably realized his mistake later though, either that or the devs made changes to the game since this rant. Either way, meh, just an old video so no need to complain about it.
Joe what headphones did you have during this?
started playing this only around a week ago..its pretty nice. and fun if you have a pretty balance party...hopefully they can make farming more easier since cash in the game is really hard to collect..my strat is just focus on one character to get a gold or something card then have 1 or 2 other chars to silver or gold..i find support to be best in farming points and xp so I often use medic aura
damn this game is robbery
Bob!!!😁
Shaddup Bob. Go back go the YTAC with your short hair.
Completely agree.
P.S. I'm a big fan of your channel. Love your reviews!
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not really, Joe just likes to rage about nothing and can't play shooters if his life did depend on it
SchwererGustav800mm so you're saying a game that can be boiled down to a first person slot machine shooter is justifiable?
OMG, this was way too funny. This was your best video ever.
Lol, guy tells you "you can easily craft the cards" Joe glosses over it thinking he said "grab" and makes a video out of this misunderstanding.
Joe rly?
I wonder how Joe would react to some on Nexon's other "free to play" games
At least Maplestory has that new server that you can't p2w on, so there's that step compared to the usual shenanigans Nexon pulls.