Leveling Explained By a PRO | Hearthstone Battlegrounds Guide
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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 15 พ.ค. 2024
- Hi guys! I'm Jeef, previous rank 1 on both NA and EU servers and with my spare time I created a LEVELING guide that everyone of all MMR should watch! This is SUPER in depth on when exactly to level to every single tavern tier, with meta adjustments!
00:00 Intro
00:50 Leveling to 2
09:51 Leveling to 3
15:24 Leveling to 4
20:44 Leveling to 5/6
Thanks so much jkirek_ for editing this guide! Check him out (he's a coach)
/ jkirek_
I stream DAILY on Twitch so follow! / jeefhs
and Twitter: / jeffispro1
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Just want to say, even though I play way too much BGs and this info isn't new to me, the way you present it is still very entertaining. It's clear, informative, well thought out, and you made the whole 27 minutes fly by. You have a knack for this and I look forward to seeing where your content goes.
agreed
+1 mate
Bro I literally followed your guide and have won 12 of my last 15 games. Thanks for putting things into perspective!
People say winning is top 3, I would say winning is getting at least top 8 B)
We're so lucky to get this instructional advice from such a top-tier player as yourself. Thanks for taking the time to make all these videos recently! I'll watch every one, and I hope this helps your channel grow as you deserve it to for the hard work and expertise poured into these.
Thanks, Jeef!
I feel like you have gotten way better at explaining your ideas over the years. Nice to see.
This whole topic I feel is the ultimate thing to learn. Falling behind even by 3 gold can be nuts, and leveling is key there. Appreciate the rundown!
just subbed. I REALLY like how you visually show scenarios on the screen, it is INCREDIBLY helpful.
I feel like I've gained 2k points just by watching this video lol, I'm constantly finishing 1st or 2nd in my games just applying what you explain in the video, thanks !
The quizzes showing specific board states were rly helpful and eye opening :)
Appreciate both the general and specific principles. Thank you for taking the time to explain leveling in such detail!
This is so good, and so much content. I'll probably be watching this over and over, from time to time.
Good video! Definitely had to go back and listen twice to a few segments but really informative stuff in here I haven't played battlegrounds in a long time so feels good to be back
1:24 the play here is actually to buy the wrathweaver, freeze, then heropower the wrathweaver. this way the wrathweaver is unfrozen at the end of the turn (with frontdrake and coin still frozen)
Nice play 👏🏼
Cool play nice!
This is by far the best guide ive ever seen for battlegrounds the examples and information in this is worth so much
This video was so helpful. I've been getting a lot more 1st place finishes after watching this. Keep it up Jeef.
Imagine questioning Jeef’s credentials and then finding out who he is 😂
"Im the guy they named the curve after"
@@rattusgrenadus8291 he invented the curve, they didn't name it after him.
@@graefus ...maybe this is a language barrier thing but those are essentially the same thing in english
@@rattusgrenadus8291they are not the same but they are also not mutually exclusive
@@rattusgrenadus8291 sometimes things get named after whoever popularizes them instead of who invented them so i guess it's worth the distinction
This is the best BG guide ever. Even better than Jeef's other guides which were all the best. Very well written and highly informative. Thank you Jeef.
Been playing HS for many years and always stayed out of BGs. It’s extremely intimidating and overwhelming for a new player. It’s like you’re not even playing HS anymore. They really need a practice mode for BGs so the timer isn’t preventing you from playing around in the shop to see how things work. Thanks for posting this. It’s a lot of info to take in, it’s great to have a resource to at least start.
As a newcomer to BGs this is really awesome. Watching streamers consistently finish 1st and 2nd is really no mystery anymore after watching this video. GGs!
Just got back into BGS and was thinking the other day “I wish there was a good recent video breaking down leveling curves.” Thanks man!
actuallly needed this because this is so helpful for curves.
Informative, well-explained, and I LOVE the practice questions. Thank you for making this!
Lmao at that credentials bit 😂
Thanks for the great videos, man. Really informative and entertaining!
Really enjoyed the recent uploads. Looking forward to more. Thanks, Jeef
Great to see you fill out the educational Battlegrounds spot after itsBen stopped recording! Awesome video :)
it's so rad that jeef is puttin so much work into spreading knowledge about the game. very commendable
He is goated with the guides, looking forward to seeing what else you have coming up 😊
Oh men, thanks a lot Jeef. This is solid gold!
Nice vid jeef, ty for taking your time making this
Thank you for your thorough breakdown of leveling, I've heard of the reasoning before from Shadybunny, shit units so it's better to level, but never could understand the particulars. Especially the early tiers, thank you so much Jeef
Watched this earlier today and played 3 BG games tonight. 1st, 2nd, and 1st. Honestly it helped me out so much. Thank you for this.
Great in-depth analysis, thx Jeef 🙏
key takeaway from this video: DON’T BUY TRASH!
Greetings from Sweden!
I love your teaching videos, use them to try and better my game
keep em coming :)
You're getting way better at these videos keep it up!
U should upload more. I just discovered your channel and already in love with it
these vis are so helpfull to us lower mmr, great work, plz keep them coming.
Amazing video Jeef! Thank you
great video man. excited to implement those tips in my gameplay as well :)
Jeef just dropping quality content! Love it!
You are so underrated, you have so many good tips and your voice is so beautiful and soothing to listen to, plz start doing whisper/talk asmr in addition to your normal stuff
I took notes so you don't have to
-don't buy trash!
-standard curve 2 on 2
-jeef curve 2 on 3 (need 1 drops + coin)
-rafam curve 2 on 4
-always curve out shops
tavern 3:
-standard 3 on 5
-don't be scared to go 3 on 3
-3 on 4 to not buy trash
-always think about the next turn
-freeze 1 or 2 cost spells if ill have excess gold next turn, spending on rolling is game LOSING.
tavern 4:
-look at board state to determine if I should level
-4 on 4 if my shops are too trash to buy (last case resort)
4 on 5 if you cant double buy just level w/ 7 gold
-4 on 6 vs 4 on 7, how many units does my board have (full = level) , leveling past turn 7 is not playing for top 4. (strong = level)
tavern 5/6
-not about turn # for tavern 5/6
-can lvl as early as 5 on 7 or 5 on 12
:what am I leveling for?
-my board is good enough for 6
-I want to search for 5 drop direction
-I have pairs/elise so i can triple into 6 drops
invalid answers
deal 1 extra dmg, bc i can :)
-dont lvl to 6 if i need 5 drops
-tribe specific, eles and pirates favor high rolling on taverns 5/6
-roll tavern 4 w/ QB/ dems
-will I die if i level?
-31 hp, solid tempo, direction options 5/6
-15 hp, weak board, need stabilizing units
-always utilize every mana crystal, don't just spend on rolls
ur the man
Amazing guide been playing for like 3 years and it was still clutch
Thank you mate, murloc dragon was trash to me until you showed me that pairing. Missed a beat on that one
Hi Jeef. I just hit 7k mmr right after leaning stuff from your VDO! Many thanks 🙏
I think the most important message from this video that hits me is 'Don't buy trash'.
I don't got friends, but amazing guide man. Very easy to understand, and the quizzes are a great touch
Thanks! Really helpfull, great examples, Nice structured explanation of your thinking
I'm a newer BG player, started just two weeks ago or so, and these videos are helping me put things into perspective. Hopefully I remember enough to have it affect my gameplay ^_^
Thanks man, need more videos like this!
Thanks for sharing this!
I just started playing Hs again after a few years, and BG like 3 days ago. I suck so bad lol, but your vid def gave me some insight on what I need to do. Crazy how lost I feel currently, lol, but def seems learnable.
I really liked the example board states. It would be cool to show harder decisions board and have you other top players discuss them
Battlegrounds didn't even exist when I stopped playing hearthstone, so as a new comer to the mode I really appreciate your guides. Probably would have had a way harder time or bounced right the hell off the mode it without them.
thanks man, i appreciate your time and knowledge
Bro even with 8k MMR I learned so much in this vid. It's really appreciated ❤
Great video. Very helpful.
You boldly called this out as the most important battlegrounds video ever. I have to admit, I rolled my eyes at that comment. HOWEVER… I think you were right.
This completely changed the way I think about the early and mid game and my play is greatly improved after watching this video. I’m a mid player who plays once or twice a day, and I breezed from 7k - 8k after I fully grasped the meaning of some of your remarks.
10/10 content. Thanks and kudos!
I'm only going to tell you that i'm a casual 6.5k player with my mobile phone and after watching this "don't but crap" thing I won at first game 😅 by leveling instead of buying crap, which allowed me to get core beast minions before opponents.
Do you think double leveling to 3 on turn 5 is still viable on Reno when there are economy units on 1?
I don't think so because as I said in the video, 4 drops and 5 drops are not too gamewinning, so you lose too much tempo on average. I would only consistently do that curve with brann
Missplay at 1:22 the answer is definetely buy the 1/4 and use your hp on it for value
i cant remember the last time I watched an entire youtube video instead of just pasting the transcript into chatgpt, very nice
Jeef wants us to be the best BGs players we can be... that's really cool
Very educational video, as are all your streams.
From a cameraman’s point of view this tip for next vid: make sure your camera is focused on you and you have a calm background. It’s a shame if your viewers get distracted by an out of focus video where a lot if happening in the (focused) background.
as a 25y mtg player with certain significant results over the past decade and a half, i started playing heartstone about 5 weeks ago and am mainly active in battle grounds, struggling this week to break 7k points and I found this video usefull, as most of the exceptions seemed obvious to me and several I have used, but some of the standard curve I should take notice, because I now learned I should be more firm on leveling instead of buying semi-trash or rolling to try and get non-trash.
Also I'm kind of glad lubby is gone, because with him I often found i couldn't finish my gold/turns as to many choices aren't automatic. Also I still need to find out how to properly scale undead's and beasts because I don't know when to sell and improve on those as well as for others.
It is absolutely outlandish how much better at the game this video made me. I was starting from mega garbage though lol.
Love these educational videos! More please
great editing, great script, great tips, 10/10
let go! Thanks Jeef!!
I think it would be cool to see playing scenarios with bad luck like how to play that stuff because 90% of videos involve high rolls
Amazing video man.
@JeffHS - On 19:16 you didn't show whether you sold one unit and bought one (probably divine shield) or if you boght +1/+1 spell?
Nice educational video and it's good to hear from pros. Also I wanna ask everyone here, do you guys go 4 on 4 for heistbaron togwaggle to use his hero power asap next turn? I tend to do this whenever I can but wanna know what you guys think? Is the risk worth it?
Let me go on a bit of a tangent here, whenever I play these hero powers I try to actively remind myself to avoid being too greedy. Togwaggle, Galagrond, Eudora, powers that have a high potential to be good but forcing them into their "best" case scenario could put you in a bad spot.
So for Togwaggle, 4on4 to hit power on turn 5, I think only makes sense if you can freeze the current shop because it has some self-scaling potential or good sinergies, because there is always the chance you will get trash on the next shop. If you are simply "hoping" the turn 5 power will save you only to be offered more trash, without even being able to fill your board, then you are likely dead on the spot.
Alternatively, I find it way more consistent to get a strong midgame if you hit your hero power on turn 4 (by selling some of your board for 8 gold or setting up tokens beforehand), if the shop is good or if maybe you want to fill the board for a sanddrake or whatnot. That will put you in a position to level to 3 and 4 the next 2 turns without being too behind, or even, hero power again on turn 6 (it will cost 9 at this point, depending if there are economy minions or spells on the shop you can keep the upgrades, sell everything back and still level to 4 on turn 6, AFTER using the hero power. Togwaggle is really difficult to use for a good resson, it has so many decisions to make each turn, hero power is not always the best call as tempting as it can be sometimes
I'm close to hitting 6k because of a lot of the info in this video. Thanks a ton.
amazing video!
What a chill ass dude
A guide about triples and/or rolling please!
thanks for explanation bro
Have you tried backpack battles or fairytale fables? both great auto battlers that actually improved battlegrounds play
The play turn 1 is "pick wrath wreaver, freeze and jandice HP" 😎😎
Nice video btw !
watched it twice
liked and subscribed
greetings from the country side of Chile
23:47
Q:"Will I die if I level?"
A:"Nah, I'd win"
*goes 8th*
thanks, great video!
1:28 better play: buy the Jesse, freeze, and swap
I can see your point but if all you need to buy next turn is Frontdrake and Coin then there is no point to doing that cuz most of the time you won't freeze the next board anyway
Pinkman is just a dead minion in the shop at this point, so now you have 1 extra shop space for an eventual frontdrake triple. @@SongUn222
it's definitely the better play. You clear a space to potentially hit the triple.
I don't think triple frontdrake on turn 3 is a good idea let alone freeze it@@Nissshaant
i would freeze it and take a 4. You can get good dragons@@SongUn222
Could you please do a video on which tier to play on and key cards to look out for each tribe?
my tribe tierlist covers that
thankyou that was very helpful
Do you have any hero tier list ? i know its depend what tribes are in but dont an overall from heroes.
Shared! LOL Even though I am the new player :3 Still though this is a very newbie friendly way to explain it. Helps if you come over from another card game, and did have to replay some of it, but super helpful!
we have invented Hard Core Hearthstone, or Pokestone as we call it. we play a private round, then the winner picks a rule we all play with, i.e. only tier 1/3/5 or, only undead, or no death rattles. it's fun and makes us more better in a public lobby.
Awesome video bro please bless us with more
(maybe someone else commented this as well)
the 'correct' play here at 1:26 is :
buy coin sell,buy 1/4 -> Hero power , freeze - so you get two fresh slots next round
thank you for the informative video
(and do pardon my above comment, thinking i know something)
When should I refresh?
Honestly I've found that if I need a certain tier minion, say tier 4, and I'm AT tier 4, I usually don't find as many 4 drops as I do when I level to 5. I know it increases the pool, but at the same time, it feels like I get fewer cards of the tier I'm actually on. I've found more cards of the tier lower than the tier I'm on versus having stayed on that previous tier to hunt for something, in probably 70-80% of games.
thanks for a great explanation
Good content. Commenting for the algorithm
8:10, Tavern Tipper isn't in the game anymore...just mentioning just in case it returns?
how do you get the extension that he has that shows all those stats
Thanks 🙏
I really enjoy your videos! I feel like I've learned a lot since I started watching. But often times I find myself having to rewatch sections to decipherer what you said. I'm a 7500ish player and I would say I only know 20% of card names, so when you list off three card names in quick succession without a graphic I have a hard time following . Some of the terms you use leave me wondering what you meant. As a pro I know card names and niche battleground terminology is your second language, but I bet a majority of your target audience would appreciate some clarification the first time you use a new term in the video or a clip of the cards your listing off. Keep up the good work
What do I do with Yogg on turn one when there is a 1 mana spell like bananas 2 okayish minions and a drake?
I've just come back after 2 years away... was a 7k player. I haven't came first once 😢 it's so different.
You said that tier 5 in this current meta is not strong, but aren't Moroes and that one tier 5 card that gains +1/+1 whenever a friendly elemental gains stats (idk the name sorry) good enough to try to triple into? I know it's probably better to wait to triple into 6 since there are more options for direction, but sometimes I've had games where I would have died if I leveled to 5, and tripling into moroes or the ele guy actually won me the game. I just think those 2 cards are so strong and are easy to build an entire board around, like with moroes you can buy pretty much any undead you see after you have him, and similarly with the ele guy, you can just buy up elementals and gain stats.