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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 28 มิ.ย. 2020
- Something snuck into their farm... and then it attacked.
The Hinterkaifeck murders
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Can we all appreciate the fact that this man stood in a freezing cold forrest for 17 minutes to tell us this story
@@princessmaryam6148 that's the joke (please read in arnold Schwarzenegger voice)
Shiiiit, I wish I was in that cold forest. Looks nice.
So long as I had a warm cabin or something to go to afterwards, lol.
It's hot snow so he isnt cold
😂😀🤣🤪
It's ok. He's wearing flanel.
It's getting more difficult to find one of these Ballen vids I haven't already watched.
Luckily he uploads 3, 4, even 5 times a week.
Me too and it makes me sad. Lol!
Yes me also. My son says he always finds new ones I'll be darned if I can
Me to I’ve watched all of them to where’s the new vids at
I'm running into the problem that only the really scary ones are left now!
This happened literally about 7 miles away from where I live here in rural Bavaria and remains a big mystery to this day. Well told MrBallen - very captivating!
Have you ever gone & looked around there? Is there a new family living there now?
What do the locals think happened?
@@jennifervolden4611 the whole thing was demolished shortly after this happened. So it's gone since before the second world war. Nobody wanted anything to do with the place.
@@JCHIZ03 Locals are pretty much all over the place, just like everyone hearing about the story. The investigation was badly done. Even for the time.
There are stories about the father smuggling/hiding weapons for paramilitary troops and some issues around that.
Some theories involve the father of the Grubers killing the family, there is talk about incest and Andreas Gruber being the dad of his own grandchild (the killed 2 year old Josef). Or the whole stuff around that at least being the reason for what happened.
The victims being covered up is another thing that people find really strange. Covering bodies is usually done by people close to the victims. In this case it could also have been to hide what happened, as it looked like someone stayed in the house for some time afterwards.
If someone wanted to rob the place, hiding what happened could have been a good option. Someone who wasn't part of the family or the local area couldn't have known who would show up while they're still in there, searching for valuables.
Those are the most discussed theories. Sadly, due to the lacking investigation and collection of evidence, every theory is more or less credible.
@@jennifervolden4611 They tore it down many years ago.
I think whoever killed the family may have known more about the house than anyone who was living there at the time. Alot of those old houses had secret passages in the walls.
Exactly I bet he never left
You'd think the cops or the people living there would have already checked if there was a possibility of anything living in the walls though.. its the first thing you'd check if you heard stuff in the walls constantly.
No these old German farmhouses are super small for today standards. There were no possibilities for spaces between rooms in the walls. There are still some of these old buildings existing and if you‘d see them you‘d know 😊
We are not talking about the US. German houses are build way different and those old houses also had no hollow walls :D
European houses don't have crawl spaces like the ones from USA.
#1 rule I learned on this channel is “if you think someone is in your house, or your kid says someone is in your house, they ARE”.
I had a new house built and the wood's still settling sometimes (not as much as before) and every time it sounded like a freaking footstep. Nothing moved and there weren't any other noises or signs of a break-in but damn I was paranoid
Uhhhg.. house is right next to a train station and woods... well a very old train station.. and very very used!!! The house is NOT even like 10-12 years old either... I know what you mean, being unsettled.. and creepy.. already the doors on the left side of the house seem crooked from the right side of the house, too, 🤔🤨. . .
Right
@Onlooker of things - dont worry they are only watching you...for now.
Yep, number one rule, get the hell out, now!!!😱
I found mr.ballen randomly and been watching all of his videos for 4 days now who can relate ?
can relate
Can really relate
Yup but I'm so glad I did.
I've become addicted to Mr. Ballen's stories. He's a great story teller!
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Maybe it was the maid? She was the first one to hear those supposed voices, and her quitting could’ve been an attempt to rule herself out as a suspect. Perhaps the family mistreated her, and this was her revenge. Since she was the house maid, that would also mean that she had good knowledge of the layout of the house, and perhaps a secret entrance to the walls. It’s also weird that when she heard the voices, no one else heard them. But when Andreas heard them, the rest of the family did so to.
Exactly.
Plus, more than likely the murderer would have to be someone who was regularly there, as the dog was obviously comfortable around them.
It would make sense if it was someone they knew, if they were so easily lured out to the barn.
@@VividBoi All dogs are not aggressive many are just friendly. Plus since that person was living in the walls how can we be sure they didn't just tempt the dog with food to trick it?
Exactly. Wonder if she was investigated. Back in the day women weren't usually suspected.
I have a feeling it was the original maid. She was the only one at first who heard the sounds. After she "left" others started to hear the sounds. She knew the house, she knew the dogs, she probably left and received the newspaper and left it out that day. Her voice calling from inside the barn wouldn't have raise any alarm. That took used to kill them would not have taken any force to swing downward, it's really all gravity driven. Plus she probably was pretty strong due to the basic labor requirements back then... But that's just my two cents
Why do people keep pointing the finger at the maid? Makes no sense. If you were planning to murder the family you are working for why would you spend months going on about hearing tapping and people moving in the attic then LEAVE the job? Seems a weird set up for mass murder, she'd have to go back there, months later, to a remote farm. Any woman working as a live in maid back in the 1920's would need to find another position straight away, she would be living and working there when the murders took place, surely? Plus female killers usually poison their victims, walloping them in the head with a heavy axe like tool does not seem very likely for a woman.
@@yvehooson9262
Depends on how mad she might have been i guess
If you get the right person mad enough....
Its highly unlikely a woman would commit this sort of crime - to just take out that many people including children - I don't see it - especially the way it was done - incredibly difficult
@@yvehooson9262 Yep. And these are the consequences of rewriting stories based in history to be inclusive. It leads everyone of a certain age or mentality to think everyone had agency back then. The neighbor was accused, and he lived RIGHT THERE and had motive, but simple reasoning "Well we saw him all the time. No way he could be over there" ruled him immediately out. Oh, but the working-class woman in the 20's could just flitter around Germany commuting to work from murder.
Creative writing classes have also taught generations that "if you can think it, it is valid".
Lizzy Borden
"The killer slept in their beds and ate their food...." clearly it was a homicidal goldilocks!
Hmm. This mattock is too heavy. This one is too light. Hey! This one is just right!😂🤣😂
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It was Snow White
Yeah I thought the same!
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“Nightmare fuel” me: yeah I’ll watch this one before going to bed, no problem
*gets nightmares*
Same😂
Everytime!
You go to bed at 6
Same
And, I have abandoned all my house chores and wifey duty and listened to Mr. John Ballen for 12 hours straight. You, Sir, are addictive.
That's funny, it's the complete opposite for me. The ONLY reason my house is clean is Mr. Ballen.
Before I found his channel, my life was falling apart! But now, the dishes are washed, the clothes are folded and put away, the house is tidy...I actually look forward to chores because I'll be able to listen. THANKS, MR. BALLEN!
Mee too ha ha..only about 6 hours a night for the last week..
I got most of my house painted thanks to Mr Ballen
@@robinwhetstone I listen at work makes work enjoyable. Something it is not lol
@@robinwhetstone 😮 I Literally just said to myself I noticed the same thing 😮 it seems the more I clean and throw away, inanimate objects leaves eggs or ghosts and they multiply indefinitely.
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Best part of John's storytelling is how his voice softens when speaking of those who died. I doubt he's even aware of it because I believe it is a natural part of his good and kind soul.
yes! you can tell that he is genuinely sympathetic for those who lost their lives. it doesn’t seem like he knows he’s doing it but it really shows how kind and wholesome he is about hard stories to tell.
Totally. I love when he says “they had perished” instead of “they had died”.
I noticed that too. That's one of many reasons why we love him 😊❤️
Absolutely! His expressions are always incredibly sincere. His time as a SEAL clearly did not harden him in the wrong ways, nor make him jaded (like SO many marines I've known). Isn't he just the type of guy you want to have around as a good friend? ☺
@@mvlad8725 absolutely!! he would be SUCH a good friend
Did they ever ask why the dog didn’t bark if the killer was in the house? Maybe it’s because the dog knew the person very well and didn’t feel threatened by him/her
of course they did, they aren't American investigators, besides the fact that not every dog barks at strangers.
@@Tekape he literally said that when the worker went to the house the dog started barking at him
@@isaiasserrano3359 and the dog knew the worker, so same argument
@@Tekape bruh he is a worker. The dog probably don’t even know him well, thats why he barked. That kind of makes him a stranger for the dog. Plus don’t come talking about dogs to me when you have a cat as a profile pic xD. Get your cat loving ass out of here hahahaha
@@isaiasserrano3359 that's the point, the dog knew him and he still barked, proof that one can't say for sure if the person is known to the dog or not - will make it bark or not.
This chanel is the healthiest addiction I've ever had! Not only that, it actually helped me to fight all my other demons and addictions! Thanks John, you are an absolute legend 💕
Dark, strange and Mysterious. You know it’s an older video if Ballen doesn’t say it this way “so if you’re a fan of the strange dark and mysterious, you’ve come to the right place because that’s all we do…” ❤
When I first discovered this channel, I was just like oh its that Tiktok guy. No big deal. Now after a month of videos, I look forward to every upload. Keep it up man
Thanks for sticking around I appreciate that!
Same i look forward to the videos i come home and check if there are any new videos makes a good start to a relaxing afternoon and i haven't done that before with any channel
Same😂 keep up the good work MrBallen. You’re one of the only people I like to watch on TH-cam
Needs to send the wifey on vacation and make 40 videos for us. Lol
ive been following many channels on youtube covering this type of content and mrballen is now my favorite by far. i too look forward to every new upload. so much that this is only channel i turn on notifications lol
Bro those photos you show randomly in the story give me a heart attack everytime
Me too! Like this one at 3:40
@@exploitedfight8081 especially that one
Grow some balls
@@maxsteele3686 dude get over yourself..even marines get scared tf.. it’s a human emotion.
Yes! I always look away but the 1 second glimpse is enough to put me in shock.
My theory: someone was living in the house, in the attic, and knew the family’s schedule… and waited for the right time to kill the whole family because they realized they were catching on. Because even after they were killed, the farm was still kept up and animals were being fed.
This person either knew this family very well, or had studied them really well.
Back at that time, there was no way to know. And most people were skeptical.. just an overall interesting story and chilling also
Yeah. Serial killers will hunt their victims through weeks or even years of stalking and memorizing routines before they strike. No forensics in the 1920s.
Seeing how this was right after WW1, an ex soldier can acquire these skills, & cover his tracks, a farm in that era is a near perfect target. The fixation on this family tho, that's the missing piece
Who owned the farm before them?Maybe the family of an ex WWI soldier who was messed up from war.
But there was nowhere to hide in the attic? And they checked the attic so how can he just vanish?
@@ameybirulkar7503 There must've been a hidden passage between the attic and the walls. Talking to himself in the attic, taunting the family and brutal violence without remorse sounds like a psychopath. I can only imagine how easy it would be for a psychopathic soldier to defect and continue sneaking into Germany to seek bloody revenge on Germans. I bet he was watching the family through slats in the walls while he was tapping, learning how they investigate and obsessing over his hatred towards them. If the killer spoke German I believe the family's ears would've picked up on the disembodied voice much easier and recognized it as human, but because he was speaking a foreign language they would've had a really hard time discerning between it being a person whispering nearby or just some unusual sounds of creaking, mice, snoring, etc.
He did something to make them walk to the barn's entrance (maybe left the door open, making them assume one of their family members must have forgotten it open) then he left the missing keys slightly visible inside the barn's floor, so someone closing the door could see it. They then would think: "There they are!" and go retrieve it, but BANG
adds up
some of the pictures with him narrating scare the living shit out of me. 😭
OMG. Me too. I had to stop watching his Tick Tok short stories. The pictures he edits in give me the chills. Sometimes I angle my hand over the background so I can't see the pictures. They stay with me all day😱
IKR
Yes.
Yeah, some are really scary, sometimes I have to look away when pics come up. I dont want to give my imagination super good references to create illusions in piles of clothes on chair
@@regeenlol9344 I thought it was only me 😂
I’m a real big fan of the strange, dark, and mysterious delivered in story format 3-4 times a week. 👍
Sometimes 5 ... Eheh
I laughed, good one
It’s “dark, strange, and mysterious delivered in story format ....... 3 to 4 times a week.”
I love the fact that he’s so consistent with his timing getting into the stories. It’s almost 30 seconds every time!!
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Cool... Me too... 👍
Great story John but DAMN! Those creepy pics you threw in were spine chilling..... I found myself pushing my phone away as far as I could so it wouldn't feel so ghostly.... Freaked out pretty much now😧
Omg same. I thought I was the only one. They freaked me out. This whole story is very mysterious
Yeah, it's kind of mean
It is so cool to look back at older videos and see the amount of growth! Absolutely love your videos!❤
Reminds me of that case of the guy that was living in the walls of a house and faked being a ghost to scare the family, but unlike that one this one went ahead and killed the family at the end of his fake haunting. (The other guy got caught, went to jail, and when he got out he went and killed another family, so it's reasonable to believe that people that live in your walls and haunt you are potential murderers)
Wall people are mentally unstable
You mean Scooby Doo?
Yes, that's so funny because I was just watching that video.
@@brainderp808 🤣🤣🤣🤣 perfect
Kinda sounds like the repair guy did it
If I ever hear tapping in my walls, I'm going full sledgehammer and taking down all the drywall, no way no way is someone hiding in my house
mag dump into wall, i agree
Is someone one is living in my walls it would honestly be impressive
Like John Wick getting his weapons and goldcoins...
I'm with u! I'm takin a machete and stabbing the walls. Or using a chainsaw or electrical knife.
I kept hearing strange noises coming from my ceiling but when I'd walk over to the spot, it sounded like it was coming from a different spot. So could pinpoint where it was coming from. Then I realized "Oh, its just coming out of the vents" after watching this channel now I'm thinking "Who the hell is in my vents?"
Omg I cannot go to sleep listening to Mr ballens stories because I have to have the full story and some are absolutely frightening!!!! Wow some are amazing and some are so so so so sad and earrie 🤯
Love listening to Mr ballen he's a legend xx😊👍🏾😻🇬🇧
The further you dig into the story you realize the father was the real demon , and real life horrors were happening within the house …. The daughter was getting molested by her controlling devious father … Incest was proven in court and both were convicted. So the child was the result of incest … The father would also be uncontrollably aggressive as well … I’ve got a feeling there is a lot more to the story and the sad events were a real life horror rather than spiritual…
maybe but seems like an outsider still killed EVERYONE doesnt sound like a murder suicide everyone else got hit and the father shot himself . even if true just still sounds hella odd
Omg I was wondering why the granddaughter’s father or daughter’s husband was never mentioned. That’s sick. And for the murder suicide theory, how would Andreis hit himself in the head with an ax thing?
@@tiffanymarieelizabeth no kidding only way that would be is if he hit them and like shot himself or something not that .but i just think it was some real person that hid undetected and killed them . science methods werent that great so i believe the ease of such things back then
Hey... That real
@@tiffanymarieelizabeth the daughters husband died in WW1 that was taking place. One theory was that his death was unconfirmed and he found out about the incest so he killed the family
“In 1923 Hinterkaifeck was demolished, and during the process someone found a secret cavity under the attic floorboards. Hidden there was a bloody mattock and a penknife.”
Wtf
That would explain a lot.
Wow thanks! Any links by chance?😊
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Called it
This man never fails to make me scared and happy at the same time lol
Edit: dang thanks for the likes ❤️❤️
Same
Yeah he Never Fails
💯 this is one of my new favorite channels, only one of a very small handful of channels that I actually put notifications on for.
Yeet
You don’t really have a lot of likes yet, dear...
I immediately knew this story to an extent before this video! It’s a story that’s just so damn confusing to me and I just kept researching it. Now I can watch him cover it!
It’s crazy to see how far Mr Ballen has come from this video to today. Everything from sound quality to delivery of information. You’ve grown leaps and bounds from the beginning and your sub count reflects that growth !!
He started off with 0 subs. But now has over 7.5 MILLION! That's more than most TV shows. But honestly I think his stories are creepy and presented in a way that makes them better than most horror movies.
Kids at the campfire: Tell is a scary story
MrBallen: Ok
Kids: *Have nightmares for 2 full weeks*
He starts with, "Okay, see, there's this ex-SEAL and he takes this bunch of kids out camping, and they ask for a scary story, not realizing they are about to become one."
@@tub3watcher 😂😂This is great
@Bob Haynes I think you would be a good story teller. This is epic 👀 lol.
what??
This is so true. I love to binge his channel and I always get so paranoid about everything after.
Major Plot Twist: Some houses that were built in the late 1800s (particularly farmhouses) had walls wide enough for you to walk between. And typically, these 2 story houses with attics have spaces you can crawl down (from the attic) to where you end up between the walls. Now, imagine someone (a previous property owner, the original maid, a complete stranger, etc.) stalking the family from between the walls that lead through different passages ways, completely undetected because the only way in or out was covered by a latch door made to look like floorboards located in the attic.
Before completely demolishing the building they did in fact find a hidden compartment in the attic with a bloody mattock and a knife. I have no doubt it was a person stalking them within the walls, who it was though is hard to say, although circumstances would point to either the neighbor or maid, this wouldn't make a lot of sense, why reveal their cards by calling it out or offering a gun? I think it was someone unknown.
@@MISTAKEWASMADE4live I disagree with the unknown person theory.
4 of the familymembers trusted the perpetrator enough to follow him into the barn alone so the guy was either a good friend family member or he was dressed like a cop. Also he would have had troubles finding the crawlspace in the attic or a place where he could lie low without beein detected which indicates that he had knowledge of the general layout of the house.
Think about the people who your entire family would trust without any second thoughts in my case there would be a handful of close relatives and maybe about 3 family friends
@@julianeder3383 I believe it was someone they knew as well
Aye did u just watch the boy movie bruh
Why did they have such huge empty spaces in the walls? I've seen such houses and walked in the walls when I was a kid. As a kid I loved those. Excellent houses for hide and seek. Was it a form of heating isolation?
Those walls usually had several access points through out the house and also under the house. Even houses today that are very old that people still live in have those. Usually found in a closet behind a door or behind a furniture completely open, no covering what so ever.
Imagine by accident dropping something behind a furniture, you reach for it and glance into that open space and seeing eyes looking back at you. That gives me crazy chills.
Thank you for making a paranormal playlist! YAY!
Love watching your older videos juxtaposed with your newer videos... Your growth is awesome to see. Not only as numbers rise on your channel but also how much your opening has changed and also your confidence as a story telling as well 😉
The maid leaving when she did was the best decision of her life lol
Worst decision of the family's because she obviously did it. The dog and kids trusted the murderer. The fact that the 7 year old didn't die right away suggests she couldn't swing that hard. I wonder if the 7 year old was last and the murderer was fatigued from swinging and dragging other bodies. Those detectives are idiots
@@trublu3483 looked up the case before deducing something obvious, the leaving maid was at other country when this incident happened.
@@trublu3483 LMAO even the most fit, battle hardened soldier would have a hard time committing this crime after like a year of living in someone's walls and surviving on food scraps. The fact that the killer tried to hack into the tool shed with brute force proves its a violent man and not the maid. The maid had access to all of the keys in the house and spent hours alone with the kids, she was in the perfect position to plan out something horrible. The truth is that she probably did chores her whole life and helped raise countless children. She had more sensibility than we could possibly know. It told her to leave the farm because the stranger was in the home, and leave Germany because the economy was in the tank
I literally go to sleep listening to MrBallen. Such a wonderful story teller with an inexplicably soothing voice, despite the stories subject material! Thank you, sir, for your stories.
Yep that’s me too! And also while I drive
no nightmares? haha
I did this and woke up because I got a nightmare, I legit forgot for a couple of seconds where I was....not a fun feeling
Me too!!!!!
Weirdly I listen too when I go to bed ... I never have bad dreams, his voice is so soothing :)
First channel I haven’t left watching or got bored of. You are the best @mrballen ❤
I've heard stories before of people living within walls of old houses, they have a whole schematic of the house layout, and have found ways to maneuver within the walls, attics, and basements. The person living there must have been primal with great survival skills, and acute hearing to be able to do the things they did.
Obviously, with some deranged tendencies.
Most likely a WW1 survivor, might even explain the mental illness/ trauma
So the guy that serviced the feeder never got paid? Truly a terrifying ordeal.
That was first thought!!!!
Actually, I read in the "Weekly world news" that after the tragedy, he would stop by the site each morning, to collect his........FREE NEWSPAPER.....and heck yeah it was a YEAR's subscription! That combined with the embellished story he would tell any tourist that would listen, which had him dealing street justice to the perpetrators(a coven of devil worshipping werewolves) of the crime were his payment for his 10 minutes of work. There may have been a maniacal murderer on the loose, but this guy made out like a bandit! Am I right, gang? .......
Hahahahahaha. Love it!
I love your comment!! Had to laugh!!
Legend says his family is still fighting to receive compensation for the tragic, unpaid service. #breadforbobtheworker
Killer: kills a whole family
Also killer: plays with dog
*Priorities*
*Priorities indeed*
Damn straight!
I can’t totally hate the murder for this very reason.
I must tell you if i were to murder someone who has a dog i would take it with me
Dog ain’t getting touched humans Yh they can go not the dogs 😭
This is so sad and terrifying back then there we're no technology like we have today so cases like this is really hard to solved
Hmm... What if: The original maid was lying about hearing tapping and footsteps and voices, and then just never really left..? She wouldn't spook the dog to alert anyone and could have coaxed the family one by one into the barn since they knew her... That's what I think.
That was what I was thinking. She was probably mistreated by the family due to being lower class which was very common back in the early 20’s, also many warmly 20’s houses have many gaps between walls which would provide perfect hiding. Your theory is very plausible.
That's actually a good theory.
Yeah. But why wud a maid leave away so much cash?
@@rgmoney14101994 She might've had some help and didn'nt care about the money.
interesting only way out of that though is if she were questioned and had some sort of air tight alibi of her whereabouts or if any really saw her some where else than that would be impossible that is if the truth were out but her or not some one from outside committed this i was thinking hiding in a spot the didnt know they were there but said person god who would it have been
I looked into this case and found something even more disturbing. The 7-year-old daughter found dead in the barn apparently didn't die right away from her injuries, the investigators found clumps of her hair clutched in her hands. The theory is that she laid there for hours, maybe days, right next to her slaughtered family going insane and pulling her hair out before finally dying.
God damn that's.... horrifying. Especially the fact that she wouldn't have any where to go because the killer was living in the house right beside the barn..
I dont believe that
Ugh
That doesn't sound like something a 7yo girl would do.
Even in an extreme situation like that.
She would run away and hide in fear.
@@Peaches2456 Poor girl
Such a tragedy. I always wondered if this could be someone living in a secret room they didn’t know they had? Have they questioned the “like” button?
😂😂😂
there is a website about this case which suggests that the father Andreas Gruber was the murder with hard evidence that supports that claim
@@EpicUnivers wow, I wouldn’t be surprised. What’s the website? I’ll have to check it out.
@@ASMRsoapandbeyond it is in german
I was thinking something similar the entire time, ESPECIALLY after learning of the footprints leading TOWARDS the home. If it were me, after seeing the trail of footprints leading ONLY towards the home, I would not have stopped searching my home until I found the person whom those footprints belonged to.
I watch ALL your videos!! Like binge watch them.. Your delivery is impeccable!! You're a natural. Keep up the good work my man!!
just wanted to say I love ya work sir. well done and keep it up.
When Mr ballen uses the whole English dictionary to find new ways to smash like
Almost my favorite part 🤣
One of the main reasons I like it
i literally look forward to seeing what he says in every video while I'm binging LOL
I know I love it
The best!
I just found him and I can't stop I come home from work every night for my stories. He's helping me through a very difficult time. Thank you.
Hope you're alright. If you feel things are way out of control there is help out there. Please use it and don't do anything drastic.
You watching these every NIGHT?
@@lakuli7786 I used to as well but have had to stop lol
@@aaronh678 fr me too
@@lakuli7786 Makes them bumps in the night even more scarier 😅.
Probably the most goosebumps I’ve gotten from one of your videos. 👌
There is a heck of a lot more that isn’t explained in this video. You could do an hour long episode on this to really dive into everything surrounding Hinterkaifeck.
Officers: Sir, why did you burn down, your own house?
Me: There was tapping in the walls
OMG! 🤣
Your two comments are top liked. Congratz dude. Btw, one question
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Do you know how to get to the Bells canyon?
@@krtm7231 😂😂😂😀
Plot twist:
Officer: Sir, why did you burn your house down?
Me: I could hear Rick Astley singing never gonna
@@krtm7231 I knew that was coming and I wasn't disappointed!!! Hahaha
Mr Ballen: talking about tapping in the walls
My apartment walls: chooses that exact moment to creak from the cold.
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@@talonkendrix6373 Thank you for paying respects, also JoJo's Bizarre Adventure is the shit! 👍
“From the cold “ sure... whatever you say
@@Righandwelder1202 Don't make me more paranoid than these videos already have! 😱
@Draugr 👏🤣
The “gently 360 no scope the like button” got me 😂
The dark... Strange, and mysterious, delivered in story... Format?
You've come so far ❤️
Did the police ever investigate whether there were passages within the walls and such for someone to stealthily make their way throughout the house?
That's what I was sort of thinking. This was post-WW1 Germany, there were lots of destitute military vets with nowhere to go and no way to make ends meet. I'm sure many of them were suffering from PTSD, felt abandoned and potentially could have been capable of coming unhinged.
That having been said there's the issue with the dog. The dog was not at all bothered by this intruder which suggests a fair level of familiarity with whoever was getting into their house. There are too many missing variables to come to a concrete solution to that question.
There's no indication of how frequently the neighbor visited. We never heard what became of the former live in maid. We never learned more backstory as to why the man in the family was so intensely disliked, if there were any estranged family members, etc.
@@athelwulfgalland Lots of dogs are fine with strangers.
Personally, I think its unlikely because houses here are built rock solid with bricks and concrete. So we usually have no crawl spaces or hollow walls to hide in.
@@athelwulfgalland some dogs will bark at a stranger until the stranger actually gets close then they submit and calm down. i mean think about it, how many times has a dog barked at you but done nothing when you're actually around them?
@@athelwulfgalland I wonder if it was the first maid
It actually goes “strange, dark, and mysterious delivered in story format” (trust me I’m from the future)
If you are from future tell me what's going to happen in 2030
give me a answer or a ghost will haunt you
@@ghosty2k3 in 2030 we will have reverse engineered UFOs that will provide us with breakthroughs beyond what was humanly possible. The president of the US will be very ambitious and attempt to become the first president of Mars. Elon musk will have created a version of the starship that can not only land on Mars but will be able to land without destroying its landing legs. China will have figured out how to use fusion in order to make an artificial sun to terraform Mars. By the year 2034, many nations will fall into turmoil over humanitarian war crimes, territory, and technological advances. By 2042 WW3 begins. By 2045 I travel back in time. My real name is Phil, Phil of the future
@Kenzie Waltz thank u!! I just talked about things that were in development now that I hope are going to exist in that time frame accept the ww3 stuff
@@ghosty2k3 deez
@@emiliorodriguez6117 Like really bro? You want me to believe that?
Thanks for the content and comments appreciate you your videos out
I've been binge watching your content for a full week now
The killer was on the roof. That’s why she keep hearing something in the attic. And that’s why the footprints went up to the house but nowhere else
Yooo that makes so much sense that’s why nobody was in the attic 👀
What about them starting at the tree line?
I'm sure that one video about this mentioned that there was a goat looking footprint in the roof. Also,whatever it was,could've also climbed down the trees.
@@progamer-xh8oz who and exactly how were the 'footprints' reported on? The father and family were dead 4 days before the police arrived and started investigating. That would mean the neighbor reported that detail, and he must have remembered being told about them by the father. I dont believe that's any rock-solid proof of these foot prints in the snow at all...and the picture could not be of the actual footprints the father saw...unless he took that picture himself they same day they were made - highly unlikely.
Nice.
MrBallen, I believe in giving credit where it is due, so...
I have watched many of your YT vids so far and wanted to say that you are a very likeable and gifted narrator.
Your style of delivery is civil in the best sense of word, yet not boring at all, you have a really good way with words and an acute sense of just a proper amount of emotional charge in your presentations.
Your content always sucks me in completely and it feels like I am right there, living through the story as if it was my own experience.
The stories are well resourced and structured.
Last but not least I especially appreciate that you do not use any sound or visual effects and rely only on yourself and you content without any embellishment, which is a sign of a confident author.
Keep up the good work!
PS: Also your clear and easily understandable accent and articulation makes it a pleasure to listen to for me as a non-native English speaker. :)
Here! Here! Well said sir!👏👏👏👏
As an English as a second language teacher I share his videos with my students for the same reasons!
I totally agree. 💎
Is this your English class essay that you accidentally put into mr.ballens comments? Joking i could put more XD
Totally agreed. Very well said. Also well placed ad breaks generally - and not too many
Your channel is the reason I subscribed to TH-cam prime! So I can download your videos and listen to them on the plane. Fantastic channel. I wish you much success.
holy hell I've been subed for awhile now, figure I would binge a bit on the old stuff. I'm terrified to go to sleep now. 😭🖤ty for the entertainment!
Plot Twist: The maid made up hearing noises in the attic but when she "moved out" she moved into the attic and killed the family.
She knew how to run the farm, she knew where everything was, and she was gone before they heard the noises.
Ooooh good one
@@thatonepersonthathasautism thx
I just wrote that then saw your comment. That is also why they were lured into the barn feeling safe, they knew the culprit.
Oh sh!!!t
The walls were probably the kind that a person could fit inside. They were made that way back then, Especially in Europe. We do not know when the house was built. Many houses were built so people could hide in the walls in case of invasion of enemies. Often families buy these houses not knowing the interior walls are hollow. There are are also secret rooms in some of them. I would say it was someone that knew the history of the house, that or they found the the original blueprints. It was definitely a human. A spirit would not need food or fire or would it play with the dog.
On the one hand, dogs don't usually react well to spirits.
On the other hand, humans typically leave footprints that go all the way from point A to point B.
I'm gonna say human with a ghost accomplice.
I’ve never heard of interior walls being wide enuf to hide inside. I know that in my country, Canada, the interior walls back then were often made of a single layer of 1” lumber that was vertical and was only secured by nails on the ceiling and floor. So they were never very strong but as interior walls they didn’t need to be.
Nope, never heard of this, never seen this (and I've seen lots of german farmhouses) and it makes absolutely no sense to hide inside of a wall if your house is occupied by an enemy. plus it makes absolutely no sense to reduce your living space by building 2 meter thick walls. it was very common to build double skin exterior walls (since the roman empire) but surely not wide enough to fit somebody inside.
I agree , it was a person, spirits don't exist. Like Scooby-Doo do says " The Monsters are always human."
@@therealchris how does it not make sense?
I love all your stories!!! ❤😁
MR. BALLEN, I LOVE THIS STORY SOOO, MUCH THAT I'VE HEARD THIS SIX TIMES OR MORE....
Bro it is literally almost 12:00 am that face scared the shit out of me
Shiit like that is the reason i dont Watch these vids just listen
FAX
3:36
Bro... which one ?? 😭😭
😂😂 it scared shiet outta me too! 😭😂
this guy is literally the only youtuber that i have notifications turned on.
Samesies
Nukes Top 5 is cool too.
Well done!! I have never heard of this case and found it very compelling. I do not, however, have a clue as to what happened to them.
I’m a new fan and to see how you’ve evolved is inspiring to say the least. 🙏🏾
I was actually wondering how long it would take you to put out this video. The story has haunted me ever since I heard about it a few years back. I am sure it was their daughter’s husband who came back to do the killing. I was shocked that this information was not brought up in your video as I have heard it in other versions but clearly if anyone reads my post here that had not hear the story before then recall their daughter Victoria has 2 children. She was married and had one child her husband was called off to war and while he was gone she gave birth to another child. There was a big question about whether the second child was his or if rumors were true that her youngest child was the result of incest with Victoria’s father Andreas. They were told he died in battle but no body was ever found . So there is a possibility that he did survive and just did not get back to his family until after he heard of the local rumors about the second child not being her husbands but rather her father. So possibly he returned to the family farm and decided to kill all of them. This may explain why he kidnapped the oldest child to see her again and decide if she was his or possibly the father’s too. It would explain the unknown newspaper in the family home. It would explain why he stayed there long enough to try to confirm the sexual relationship of his wife and her father. It would explain the keys and footprints up to the home. It would explain why the mattock was likely used on the toolbox lock and the murders too. You see, Andreas made the mattock that was used to murder the family. Almost like spiteful towards the father “I will use the tool you made to kill you and your family”. Creepy big time!!!! Lastly it would explain how he would know the make up of the farm and why he may have stayed and cared for the animals etc. The craziest thing to me is who would want to live in a house even if it be overnight for a week after they lay dead there inside and out in the barn. It doesn’t matter, having dead bodies laying around you as you go about your business is so damn creepy. LOL great job Mr. Ballen keep up the great work!!!!
Ooooh Interesting.. Yes someone who was at war would be used to dead bodies too so would not worry about staying at the property.
You would think then that the child who was lost would have been able to recollect that her dad or at least that some strange man had taken her. That is also a long time to hide out on the property or with in the house and not be noticed. My initial thought had been like the one where the teen daughters ex boyfriend lived in their walls and such, but a 1920s German farmhouse I'm not sure if it would be possible to live in the walls. I'm pretty sure they would have been too thin.
But it also doesn't come off paranormal with the weapon of choice, so who knows what a soldier of war would know how to do. Thank you for this information.
So, the husband would have killed his own child, too, along with everyone else. I don't know...what about the former maid? If she was a psychopath with an axe to grind against the family, she could've killed all of them, children included. They weren't her children, so why not butcher them, too? There have been women who've done some horrible things.
Thats a good point! that would make sense, can i ask where you heard that from. i cant wrap my head around this case and i would love to find other information so if you could send me a link would be much appricated
Yes!!! Plus some young policemen a few years back decided to check all the evidence one more time and they all agreed that they are 100 % sure who the killer is. But because he is long gone they don't want to ruin their family so they will keep it as a secret.
Mr ballen sending clear signals in his videos “do not buy a farm”
I was actually raised on a farm but our farm was so small that it came without the crazy person in the attic or the axe murderer in the barn. Fortunately.
Do n buy a farm
Melinda Pelfrey I don’t know how to read!
Me: *lives on a farm where there’s an old run down shed from the 1800’s that never been opened because the steel door is welded shut*
Me: “oh no” 👁 👄 👁
My family having a farm and they always leave me alone in the farm because I want to see if someone suspicious enters our land: 👀
You're a great man my friend
It’s interesting that upon finding the footsteps stopping at his door, Andreas goes straight to his family and asks if they had been outside- his almost completely female family, baring the male child. Is it possible that the footsteps in the snow were small?
The old times crimes were really creepy.
.....yeah 1974 was really scary ! 😆
And like the 1920s and a lot other times in the 1900s
That is the strangest sentiment of nostalgia I've ever heard.🤔 I love it! 🤭 YOU WIN!! 🎊 (I don't have anything for you, though... 😔)
Way too true
I think that crimes today are just as creepy, but today a lot of the info is kept hidden, unlike back in those day's they would show pictures of everything in the paper and on the news, they censored everything now, it all started around the late 90s when they started to censor everything.
Note to Self: If you hear tapping in the walls and footsteps in the attic then your neighbor offers you a rifle for protection... ACCEPT THE RIFLE (and ask for extra ammo and any handguns he might have).
just buy a gun...
@@Jeremyhughes86 yeah that would be the most logical solution honestly.
Already got my own thanks. But I wouldn't mind the back up.
But how would a real human fit in the walls??
@@ticketyboo2456 It's happened in other cases...there's another story on this channel about another horrifying case.
As soon as Mr Ballen started describing the story I knew exactly what story he was going to tell. Love the way he tells every story❤
Even if you've heard the story's mr ballen tells before you listen to his version, his re telling of the story is always better because he serves the story justice and researches it,
The only issue I have with this is him not going into all the suspects as well as cheating, lying and suspected bastard children.
@@b0ne91 ????
@@markbender4133 Read up on it. Wikipedia article alone is a good start
And I've heard that this particular story is extremely difficult to research. Everything is in German, for starters.
and he has that soothing voice.
The part where the footprints come out of nowhere almost sounds like a Skinwalker Ranch type incident.
Omg yesss that’s terrifying
I started really thinking too much about that and realized it’s possible for a person to do that. I saw someone put their soles on backwards on man tracker to fuck with the tracker. Maybe they had a spare set and walked back with the backwards soles in the original tracks?
Skinwalker: Sounds *a lot* like Skywalker.
You: Has a Star Wars pfp
Ummm, no such things! This isn’t make belief land!
@@LS-rw9yp The first peoples (natives) would say differently, if they talked about such things at all. They all know, lived and grew up with those stories, but, do not like talking about them.
Never stop making these stories please
Your so awesome man keep making these videos
MrBallen should definitely get his own Spotify podcast for this kind of stuff ahahah
Factssss
And so you can’t see the pictures he adds all the time
Heck yeah I totally agree
I’d be okay with these stories if it wasn’t for the Damn photos every now and then 🙈
Every time they creep me tf out
Tbhh😭
I know, right?! 😳😱
If wants for the damn phot3 every now and then
I've jumped a couple of times when he throws in the deep voice sounds.
This story is my favorite supernatural/true crime story of all time
Just 360 noscoped the subscribe button. Thx for the awesome content, bro
1:53 Who else thought for a second the second lady was headless? 😂😂
Isn’t she? I looked several times and she always looked headless to me. Yikes!
I thought the same thing
Ken S no look closely
Get Out Of My Head! 😂 I momentarily thought the same exact thing!
@@kens2328 she's an old granny looking down and scowling, and she's wearing a white head thing that blends in with the background.
I actually think it was Viktoria's husband who Ballen didn't elude to in the story. He was claimed to have died in the war but the body was never recovered. Viktoria ended up having her two children with a different man. Husband may have found out & took out the whole family hence why he had no quarrel killing children because they weren't his & a reminder of her betrayal.
No, the husband died during the 1st World War. The daughter was in fact his biological daughter.
Some people assume that it may have been the man who fathered the 2nd child.
There was a big rumor that Viktoria was having an incestuous affair with her father, in fact she was fined and her father spent a month in jail for it because of the rumors
His military unit confirmed he died, and seen the body.
Best channel on TH-cam. Every video is excellent. xo
I've binged your whole channel, how'd I miss this one?
it’s 3am dude chill with these pics man
hahaha
Lmao
😂🤣 RIGHT! It’s not the stories, that freak me out.... It’s those damn pictures! And sadly I always catch upon these stories late at night, usually still have to take the dogs out to run and potty before bed, and often still have a few last min chores I need to finish... Did I mention, we own and lease 2 working horse farms, both surrounded by woods, and kind private, the one we lease is 80acres of property, 60 solid woods, no electricity, and very cut off, almost in a other worldly way from any surrounding homes. So if we have an issue like a sick horse or something I have to make late night checks on, being as my husband works full time, and has to be up early and off to work.. The late night checks or overnight stays out there are always me alone, with my 3 dogs and my shotgun lol. It’s very secluded and can be a bit creepy. It’s on the river, so there’s always lots of different nights sounds, and those nights when the fog rolls in, it’s straight out of nightmares lol. Add to that all the locals swearing the place is haunted. If I didn’t love that property and my horses so much, I likely would have quit leasing it a long time ago. Plus I’m not smart enough to also not listen to these or my other fav horror story narrators on the drive there. 😂
@@Restlessgypzy interesting
Frfr I live home alone so yea dont watch this b4 bed lol im wide awake now 🤣🤣
New way to kill the like button every episode
I love this one
*maniacal laughter*
King Gam3ing same just brought back memories of the black ops 2 days
I love that part 😂
😂
This summer I’m binging all of mister ballens videos
I like watching the beginning of Mr Ballen content soon before it blows up with popularity 💯
That was a thought out planned attack/raid. Precise and tactical and the killer’s confidence is displayed from them living in the home.
I love how the background is indicating that a random dude just walks out of the forest and starts telling you scary stories
You do for people what camp fire stories did for people before the internet. Your oratory style is exactly what the good story teller sounded like back in the day.
Mr Ballen you really didn’t have to get me with that jumpscare at 3:41 😭 legit glad I’m not in the dark lmao
I legit just listened to this yesterday on a crime podcast called Casefile. It’s over an hour long and goes into heaps of detail. It’s spooky
Can u link it
podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/casefile-true-crime/id998568017?i=1000449745044
thank you!! now I have a new podcast to liten to.
Thank you, just listened to that...sure sounds like Lorenz, the neighbor's son and father of Victoria's little boy, was the killer. What do you think? I think he has the most motive, and even his brother thought he was guilty.