The development was done by Magna in Graz, Austria. So the Grenadier is definitely in the tradition of the Mercedes G/Puch G, which was also developed by Daimler-Steyr-Puch (Magna's predecessor company) and Mercedes in Graz in 1979. The engines come from the BMW engine plant in Steyr, also Austria. The Grenadier is then manufactured in Hambach, France, in the former Smart plant, which Ineo bought from Mercedes. All the best to Ineos, looks like a great car.
I don't really go off-road. But I would buy a Grenadier. Why? Proper buttons and big, simple controls. Big windows. Great visibility. Real handles. Great interior space. Manual handbrake. Proper mirrors. Rugged. Simple materials. I wish more cars were made like this.
The new Defender has all that, except for the manual handbrake, and it also isn’t some dude’s hastily slapped together vanity project, but a proper car.
We're currently on a 5-year trip in a Grenadier across the world towing a Patriot X3, which we live in. If you're watching this review, it may be of interest. We set off from London in mid-July 2023 with our two young kids and we’re approaching 50000km. At least 70% of our journey has been off-road...
Love the INEOS Grenadier. What the 4x4 buyers' market sorely needs today is an affordable no-frills INEOS Grenadier - just like a Suzuki Jimny - only bigger. The problem with the INEOS Grenadier and other 4x4s is they are very expensive so out of reach for many fans.
For once a well designed and really solid vehicle, 99% of modern off roaders are not ruggedly built and often fail a few years in, time will tell if this is as reliable as it looks, yes I would consider buying one
Your comment needs to be pinned to the top sir. I agree with you hundred percent. My mind tought of something similar about the new gay defender its horrible. And now this comes out it's a big win for me in my heart. I love this vehicle its proper shape style stance its mean its says move out the way plastics.
I love having more options and competition in the space, personally i think the Grenadier makes some poor choices on config and is upper end of the market for what you get, but will be popular anyway with the hype and excitement, and i dont think it will flop
@@briangriffith3985 except the landcruiser isnt available in the UK is it ? GR beats this on specs, more power, more torque, more gears, same weight, much more modern interior and its a toyota so should be reliable
g wagon are rubbish.. id buy,well,i have an f250 1975 highboy, fit front rear lockers, job done. 26" clearence, std.. same as dodge power wagon,chev cucv. old is good. &, there manuel. not computer compromised auto rubbish.. ausie..also have an 82 bronco with d60 sas.
Since I got my drivers licence in 1971 I’ve driven 1,5 million kilometers. 300.000 km in a Landcruiser BJ40, 45.000 in two Suzuki’s LJ80, 30.000 in a Jeep CJ2A and 169.000 in a Daihatsu Feroza. In 1988 I even got a racing licence, Dutch Racing School. So I know what it is, driving and off roading. I see that you are clearly a better driver than I am and you know a lot more cars than I do. Therefore I much like your tests and driving impressions. Keep going on!
For anyone who has only just discovered this car from Car Wow. Please look at the development and previous videos on this car on other channels from over the last year. Is a seriously impressive machine. Very exciting for the 4X4 market that the new Landy should have been all along.
The Ineos Grenadier is proof that you (Land Rover) shouldn't attempt to "fix" something that was never broken to begin with. I wanted a classic Defender, but after seeing this, I'd like to be greedy and have both. GREAT review, Mat!
Really? The old defender is a shit car. Absolutely kills your back after a long journey, so loud you can’t hear yourself think inside it, mpg is impressively shit, reliability is abysmal had mine breakdown on the road three times in 40k miles, very little interior space considering the size, crap stereo, crap ac and heating. Etc etc.
@@simonwilson7581 Yes. Then again, sticking to a slightly updated version of the old design, with big updates and upgrades to the interior and tech, worked well for the Mercedes G-Wagon. Those things sell faster than they can build them too, despite the hefty price.
Nah, the new defender is a massive success. People like the idea of an old defender, but anyone who's spent time in one will tell you how utterly terrible they were. What they've done with the new one is perfect - it's hugely capable off road, but refined on it, which is where most spend their lives. And it's relatively affordable. They nailed it. Sure, they could've stuck a caricature body on the new car like Mercedes. Meh, would it have made it any better?
A car that people who want simple have been asking for. I'm happy Sir Jim Radcliffe went ahead with this, good simple car that won't be as big of a pig to drive on the road (Big fan of the old defender but it was dangerous in modern traffic). Also, the old technology is utilised exceptionally well on this and modern conveniences have been added which in my eyes makes this one of the best cars this year.
The interior of the LR defender is way better, I'd prefer it for that alone The panomric roof and the roof holes make it a better passesnger experience
Its probably gonna continue squeaking and creaking, truthfully the Current Defender is what I call a proper upgrade from the disco 4&3 and unlike the Disco 5 you can take it offroad and not feel bad about scratching a panel or the bumper, the ineos is cool but you can't compare it to the Defender when it comes to comfortability and daily driveability and the fact that the new defender doesn't have a ladder frame chassis I sure know which care I'd like to be in offroading as well and it's definitely not the ineos
Mat !! I think this review of any vehicle is the best that I have ever seen, very explanative with no daft gimmicks thrown in for audience entertainment. I also liked the way you immediately put your hand up to boo-boos (a big tic for that) Factually brilliant, I want an INEOS and will look not further for a sales description of this vehicle. Thank you very much for this video..... as an experienced off roader and teacher can I be very rude and be a little of a nit-picker Don't put your thumbs inside the steering wheel when off roading, if you hit an unseen obstacle that twitches the wheels you can break your thumbs ...nit pic over thanks again for a brilliant review.
I would have thought that the 60/40 rear split seats would align with the door openings, i.e. the 40 split with the small opening and the 60 split with the wider one.
The fact the seats don’t fold flat is crazy. Rules the car out for me, the things massive, but there less usable “tip run” space than my old Mercedes ml, which has a fully flat floor.
Its got some weird design choices which I guess comes from the ground up design. Wedging that 3.0L beamer engine into a weirdly shaped engine bay, for one. Its just such an inefficient layout which causes the weird humped roof and leaves no space for the electronics/ battery. The suspension mounts for the leaf springs are left danging below the frame, thats just not how modern ladder frame/ leaf springs work. You've basically just compromised your ground clearance. And the list goes on.
JLR missed a trick when it designed the new Defender; as Matt says, this is the car that the new Defender should have been (and the new Defender should have been the Discovery replacement). If you configure the new Defender to any decent spec its price overlaps Discos and some RR Sports - shades of the pricing hiatus that plagued BL. And it's not built in Wales because a) the Welsh government refused to improve logistics flow along the M4 in S Wales, and b) because Ineos is taking over a Mercedes plant in France, so no huge financial or carbon footprint cost that would otherwise have been incurred by a new build. All of this demonstrates why Jim Ratcliffe is so successful. I agree with Matt - the Grenadier will be a huge success.
@@adveyrastogi3486 Because it looks like a really badly modified version of the old defender, not a cool one like say Twisted. Why has it got all the 'bits' stuck to the doors?
@@IslaSprollie If it would be a genuine LR design it obviously would not look like a bad mod. This is still a tough well built car no matter how it looks :)
The 450 nm of torque from the engine might seem low, but an 8 speed torque converter gearbox offers low enough gearing, so that what you want is a nice flat torque curve.
@@Theocurrie Exactly, it's tuned for offroad use, which favours low-end torque and high reliability, but of course with a ECU remap you can get to your numbers easily
@@xxxxxtrxxx13 according to Ineos BMW have tuned the straight 6 to lose HP to gain torque for the off road ability so not sure if the figures quoted here are correct. th-cam.com/video/vZFk1qJDWlk/w-d-xo.html
I'm so excited for this car. Seems a bit counterintuitive to not have mechanical dials for speedo and rev counter, considering the car is built with simplicity and reliability in mind. Would also be interested to see if there is space to fit additional fuel and water tanks.
I can understand why LR would want to take them to court for copyright but as far as I know, copyright only lasts 25 years. I suspect LR are pissed off because they discontinued their own Defender and perhaps wished they had of made this. This Grenadier looks like it will become a real commercial truck and not something for the city.
I heard that part of that sue was a study, in which they were presenting a silhouette of the Grenadier and asking people what car is on the picture and most of them replied simply a jeep :)
The EU emissions killed off the old defender, land rover should have kept the shell and upgraded the engine. Instead they've given us a chunky range rover. Ineos will kill off the new defender.
@@mrpete1972 this won’t kill off the new defender, the new defender is better in nearly every way, and it’s starting price is even cheaper, you also have a lot more options when it comes to engines etc, You get more vehicle for your money along with the name of a icon.
For a review that considers the prototype of this vehicle from the perspective of a serious off-roader, have a look at AllOffroad 4x4 Adventures TV. His review identifies several potential shortcomings, including ground clearance, protruding steering damper, ramp over angle and woeful fuel capacity (for touring). Hopefully there are solutions in the pipeline.
With ten year old Defenders fetching £40k and new ones about double that, it’s market appeal is assured. Unlike Land Rover, who rely upon their image and brand from their past, success will depend more on the leasing cost, reliability and the service network than on the car itself.
These are dope! I’m so happy to see smaller companies like this coming in and building manual, old school, low tech, purpose built vehicles. I’d love to see a company come in and build a manual transmission, low tech sports car.
Hey look! Its what everybody wanted the New defender to be! That new rear door is the answer to our biggest problem with the old one, pulling cattle trailer the door makes such a small gap with the spare tyre on. But everything else is exactly what's needed!
I have the new Defender P300 and having had a 1998 Defender 90 for 12 years, the new one wins hands down. I can certainly report that the air suspension really excels in the wild outback areas of Henley-on-Thames towards Nettlebed.
I've been waiting for the Grenadier for several years now and in that time the price has doubled! As a farmer, Ineos must be dreaming if they think we will pay £53k starting price. Maybe a wealthy land owner would buy it, although they would probably get a Range Rover instead. Therefore I'm not sure who this is for. Maybe townies with large incomes who want to play at off roading at the weekend? Although why not just buy the more luxurious new Defender. I would buy this but it would have to be closer to the original price.
@@warrenhulme1193 And it would still leak like a sieve, rattle and creak, be unbearably noisy, pollute like a tractor and have switch gear, seals, wipers, gauges and so much more, based on 70s British Leyland parts bins. I've had my Defender, from new since 2001and driven it 95,000 miles, mainly off-road. I've lost count of the parts I've replaced, many, many, more than once. New locks all around, that I can still open with a screwdriver. Don't talk such tosh about restoration being better than the Grenadier. This thing is an absolute thing of beauty and you're delusional if you think any rebuilt Defender comes anywhere near. This is the Defender, Landrover should have built, fit for the 21st Century.
Mat mate.. you deserve more than this.. really a good real review and you’re so natural and informative at it. really really well done! finally there’s somebody come up with the company where we can custom our very own truck! This is next future classic! I want one 🔥
@@hahaha-mj7oe both are dwarfed by carwow viewing figures. They may currently have more subscribers but are far behind for monthly views. For example last month Chris fix had 17.4 million views, top gear 22.6 million… Car Wow 61.175 million 😂
I am in Australia and planning to purchase one of these when they are released here in September. Provided they drive well on the road. So far I have seen many many reviews offroad and have no doubts about their capabilities but not a single review of how they drive on motorways, dirt/gravel roads and B roads.
Any of you who know me, know I've been a lifelong Land Rover fan. I almost cried when I saw the new Defender - not one bit what I'd hoped for. When I first saw the Grenadier - I wasn't that enthused, though it was a lot better than the new Defender. However, it has grown on me! Even I'm surprised how much. I have a Range Rover Sport for long journies and until recently a 110 Doublecab for anything dirty. I really wanted something like the 110 for practicality but with the ride quality and creature comforts (simple things like cup holders!) of the Range Rover (which is still gorgious to drive). It looks a lot like a G-Wagon to me too. That of course was another option, but they are just too expensive to be practical. I'd rather have a top end Range Rover for the money. The Grenadier looks like it might fit both roles (and it even has cup holders! ;-) ). High probability I'll be driving one eventually.
They both will do exactly the same. Throw new Toyota 4Runner in the mix even. All will perform the same. The difference can cone only in offroad situations where you want to break one of these vehicles. But All the normal offroad trails, all of the 4x4 will do ok.
I had a ride in an early prototype here in Queensland in mid Jan, I was impressed, and seeing a more close to production vehicle, the order will be going in. As an overlander accross Australia, I think this will be brilliant,
save your money,or what,? 90k.. +.. after fitting it out. get your self an olde but goodi.. gu nissan, or 80 series. only 2 4x4rs worth buying. preferably the nissan. remember this,, you sht 1 sensor, wet,burned out,,out in the desert,,you die..i have a 2002 ford f250 s/duty. no computer, no glow plugs, 4.2tdi, bigger turbo 700nm. 12.5 lt 100. 35' tires 3' lift. nothing compares. cab chassis, 2.9mtrs of tray. turns better than a 79 series, cheaper more economical, .land rover,is still land rover. destined to break..cost me 25k, done 170 ks. in 4 yrs, only replaced the hubs. $400. bolt off, bolt on. 4 bolts. replaced the drum diff with a disc rear, from a 5.4, $500. fitted drilled slotted rotora, ceramic pads, my choice, not needed. 3 air tanks, ex fire extinguishers, to a big 300 lt compressor, NOT, arb rubbish. removable winch, hitch front & rear. all gear & sleep in back. total cost, 28k..
Hard to find BMW parts in the outback. The BMW engine and gearbox give me pause although I love the idea of the car. We’ve got an old 99 defender and it’s relatively hard to find parts in remote Aus compared to say Toyota parts.
@@ScootyG Good choice! Love the 300 series, bullet proof. And you'll be glad when looking for radiator hoses/wheel bearings out the back of Bourke. Good luck on your travels!
Having owned a 1997 Defender 190 which was the last year they were legally imported into the USA, I would have chosen the Ineos if it was available. Seems very capable while offering creature comforts not available on the Defender. I know later Defenders in the UK had a better interior.
I wouldn't say they were better, they maybe looked nicer, but you lost more and more storage and made it harder to get at the windscreen wiper motor, the puma fixed the terrible a/c but you lost the flap up vents. They never got it perfect because of penny pinching.
This is a rival for a G-wagon not an original defender, I can’t see many farmers splashing out £48000 for the base model grenadier. The original defender became obsolete for its target market: farmers! Farmers mostly moved to Japanese vehicles as they’re far cheaper and more reliable.
I pray that the colour combos that we've seen on these preproduction models will be used on the production model. And this only weighs 500kg more than the old defender 110, but that's only safety equipment, so it's not that bad
Try carrying 10 of 50kg bags of ballast on your back to see what it really means. Or more sensibly, carry ten 50kg bags of anything [yes they are still available] from one place to another, 100 metres apart.
@@harleyrobertson6746 That’s a massive amount of extra weight as I illustrated. It effects everything from handling to fuel economy to the performance on and off road to the amount of payload it can carry while also towing, to the class of MOT inspection it has, to its speed limits on certain roads as a commercial vehicle in many countries.
Niceee 😃👍. It's nice to see a new properly off-road style 4X4 among all of these expensive, luxury SUVs (although I do like some of these like the new Defender in 🙂👍).
You mean this is the true defender copy... they basically didn't improve anything (besides a more modern interior) and just took what was already good from the original. It's honestly almost too close to be legal.
@@soerenbo no, this is completely innacurate. It's a completely different car, despite looking somewhat similar. Different chassis, different design/production processes, completely different powertrain. There's literally nothing the same except the basic exterior design and the broad ethos.
@@calvinschultink8452 It’s a bit of a 20th Century Dinosaur really. A non-identical twin to the 1984 Land Rover One-Ten that has been to the gym to work-out and build up it’s muscles. It does compete directly, in its current form, with the current Defender. I wonder what commercial advantage it is thought to have over the current Defender?
@@AMV12S I think it's a wait and see situation, but I understand the concern. I think maybe they recognise the world has changed, and are attempting to adapt within reason. They are putting a lot of faith in BMW reliability/roadside assist networks....
For the production models, I hope that 'bong' isn't as persistent as it was in the prototype! And I assume they'll stop the steering wheel from creaking too!
If Land Rover won't make cars like this anymore then I can't blame this company and vehicle for filling the gap. Time will tell if it's as good as what it inspires to be
Amazing off-roader 👌🏽 they did an incredible job! It will definitely be a big seller when it comes out, and I'm sure many Landrover drivers will purchase it. But i swear if i only hear one more time that "biep biep" like BMW's also have i will get crazy!! 🙈
@@dad_jokes_4ever226 right! I was thinking surely I couldn't be the only one to notice that as well! Maybe just a seat belt warning, as Matt was wearing a harness, not the "standard" belt?
On my induction day at the warehouse, I was asked if I heard about ineos, I answered no, the trainer said is basically a knock off of land rover defender😂 had a great time working at ineos line met amazing people from manager and supervisors to machine operator.
Ok this definitely looks slight bit more of an ideal LandRover. More like an updated edition of a classic one. Especially the interior. Thats even more updated than updated itself. It is more "well thought of" than a standard "well thought of". I like it.
The split rear is a Toyota 70 series item from the 1980's. Still an impressive vehicle, my only concern is that the cooling pack at the front drops below the bumper. It looks very prown to being damaged or clogged with mud.
The success of this vehicle will be largely down to fleet buyers like UN aid agencies etc - my big concern will be a dealer network with the availability of off the shelf parts in the wilds of Africa for example. I think Ineos made a huge error of not using lots of readily available Toyota spares which you can easily find throughout the world . Good luck getting BMW spares in Burundi or Mogadishu!
@@pinzgauerbelgium :-D The Pinzgauer is arguably worse as a car, but better offroad than anything anyone builds at the moment. (maybe apart from tanks and some Unimog Variants)
I quite like this truck, it's a real good idea to fill the gap left by the old Defender. The demand was indeed strong. I'm surprised there's no V8 option, I thought it should retain BMW's 4.4. I hope the beeping and grinding noise when turning the wheel will be gone on production examples 😂
I'm hopeing when they tap into the north American market a LS might appear. Ticks all the boxes. Cheap , plentiful, parts everyware. And easy to work on.
Even though it's generic in its design it has some character that many new cars just don't have they try to have as many angles or big grills just for the wow factor
ASPW gonna go absolutely furious when the car starts to beep at him for no reason. On the serious side of things am looking forward to all the "INEOS Grenadier VS" videos that will come when it's launched to the public
I tell you, he would get even more furious when I say that my old-school INDEPENDENT SUSPENSION van (VW T3 Syncro) can pass this "offroad test" single handedly. 😀
I have just configured mine with a bull bar and checker plates on the front wings. Solid blue, white roof, 18" steelies with BF Goodrich tyres. base seats and rubber floor covering. Can't wait for them to arrive down here n Sunny Queensland Australia
Already a proven engine over many years which is the reason INEOS selected it. When I researched it I was surprised how many awards BMW had received for both the petrol and diesel engines.
@@rowanraath Awards only ever given for new engines. They never factor in longevity. Same reason Toyotas get bad reviews compared to other brands. Toyota does not try and get every available hp or torque because it doesnt want to stress the engines. Toyotas will trump almost any car in its class if the testing was done 15 years after production
I've been watching your videos for a long long time now, Honest, fair, witty and smart analysis and reviews. But this one time I felt like you were biased ... Strongly ! In every way the new defender is better - capabilities and comfort. This is a dream project of some one who loves to stubbornly hang on to the age old methods. There is no way this is better that the new defender given they cost the same. Conveniently you said its half the price of a G Wagon straying away from the obvious comparison with the Defender. Mind you this is from a company that is notorious for its fracking and green washing activities !
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A bunch of BMW parts put together by a Mercedes factory based on an old Britsh design? Love it!
I think it’s made in Graz by Magna.
I give it an hour before it starts disintegrating.
It not built in a Mercedes factory.
@@Jabber-ig3iw The G Wagon is also built in Graz
@@Jabber-ig3iw at least it's designed by Grenadier Automotive in Stuttgrat Germany by a bunch of former Mercedes guys
The development was done by Magna in Graz, Austria. So the Grenadier is definitely in the tradition of the Mercedes G/Puch G, which was also developed by Daimler-Steyr-Puch (Magna's predecessor company) and Mercedes in Graz in 1979. The engines come from the BMW engine plant in Steyr, also Austria. The Grenadier is then manufactured in Hambach, France, in the former Smart plant, which Ineo bought from Mercedes. All the best to Ineos, looks like a great car.
Looking forward to the offroad test, this v the new defender. I'm guessing which will win ....
Thanks
Thanks Wikipedia. Was this your way of saying, 'this is not a British vehicle'?
I have a Jeep Grand Cherokee which was also made in Graz , Austria.
Not a lot of people know that !
@@Uniongamers it's not a British vehicle ! No more than the German Mini or the Chinese MG
I don't really go off-road. But I would buy a Grenadier. Why?
Proper buttons and big, simple controls. Big windows. Great visibility. Real handles. Great interior space. Manual handbrake. Proper mirrors. Rugged. Simple materials. I wish more cars were made like this.
The new Defender has all that, except for the manual handbrake, and it also isn’t some dude’s hastily slapped together vanity project, but a proper car.
@@alexclipper7608 Nice to know. I'm gonna go and try one soon then!
@@alexclipper7608unlike the new defender it doesn’t have a drivetrain that will fail after 60k miles
Buy a wrangler, they are head and shoulders above these, and finally the automotive journalists are realising it
@@UserUser-vo2ky they are junk, a bronco is much better
We're currently on a 5-year trip in a Grenadier across the world towing a Patriot X3, which we live in. If you're watching this review, it may be of interest. We set off from London in mid-July 2023 with our two young kids and we’re approaching 50000km. At least 70% of our journey has been off-road...
Love the INEOS Grenadier. What the 4x4 buyers' market sorely needs today is an affordable no-frills INEOS Grenadier - just like a Suzuki Jimny - only bigger. The problem with the INEOS Grenadier and other 4x4s is they are very expensive so out of reach for many fans.
For once a well designed and really solid vehicle, 99% of modern off roaders are not ruggedly built and often fail a few years in, time will tell if this is as reliable as it looks, yes I would consider buying one
Engines German?
Don't hold ya breath
That's because it's german instead of english
Jimny???
Do you know a small company that called toyota?
@@CHMernernersmall company? Dude they literally own asians market
This is a big fat middle finger to land rover for discontinuing the old defender and a huge win for old-school offroad-loving customers. I love it!
New Defender is more complete and I love complete cars BUT for pure, reliable off roading this is slightly better....
Your comment needs to be pinned to the top sir. I agree with you hundred percent. My mind tought of something similar about the new gay defender its horrible. And now this comes out it's a big win for me in my heart. I love this vehicle its proper shape style stance its mean its says move out the way plastics.
Id prefer a manual personally and no infotainment screen.
2 fingers more likely but does old school sell? Have you studied the subject?
I love having more options and competition in the space, personally i think the Grenadier makes some poor choices on config and is upper end of the market for what you get, but will be popular anyway with the hype and excitement, and i dont think it will flop
As soon as it’s available in U.K. you’ve got to do a test between it, old defender, new defender and g wagon
and landcruiser
@@briangriffith3985 except the landcruiser isnt available in the UK is it ? GR beats this on specs, more power, more torque, more gears, same weight, much more modern interior and its a toyota so should be reliable
g wagon are rubbish.. id buy,well,i have an f250 1975 highboy, fit front rear lockers, job done. 26" clearence, std.. same as dodge power wagon,chev cucv. old is good. &, there manuel. not computer compromised auto rubbish.. ausie..also have an 82 bronco with d60 sas.
@@michelvanwoudenberg well he might as well have to import one elsewhere
Since I got my drivers licence in 1971 I’ve driven 1,5 million kilometers. 300.000 km in a Landcruiser BJ40, 45.000 in two Suzuki’s LJ80, 30.000 in a Jeep CJ2A and 169.000 in a Daihatsu Feroza. In 1988 I even got a racing licence, Dutch Racing School. So I know what it is, driving and off roading. I see that you are clearly a better driver than I am and you know a lot more cars than I do. Therefore I much like your tests and driving impressions. Keep going on!
For anyone who has only just discovered this car from Car Wow. Please look at the development and previous videos on this car on other channels from over the last year. Is a seriously impressive machine. Very exciting for the 4X4 market that the new Landy should have been all along.
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The Ineos Grenadier is proof that you (Land Rover) shouldn't attempt to "fix" something that was never broken to begin with. I wanted a classic Defender, but after seeing this, I'd like to be greedy and have both. GREAT review, Mat!
Time will tell if you're right. So far the new Defender is the 2nd highest selling Land Rover with a 12 month waiting list, let numbers talk.
Really? The old defender is a shit car. Absolutely kills your back after a long journey, so loud you can’t hear yourself think inside it, mpg is impressively shit, reliability is abysmal had mine breakdown on the road three times in 40k miles, very little interior space considering the size, crap stereo, crap ac and heating. Etc etc.
@@simonwilson7581 Yes. Then again, sticking to a slightly updated version of the old design, with big updates and upgrades to the interior and tech, worked well for the Mercedes G-Wagon. Those things sell faster than they can build them too, despite the hefty price.
Nah, the new defender is a massive success. People like the idea of an old defender, but anyone who's spent time in one will tell you how utterly terrible they were. What they've done with the new one is perfect - it's hugely capable off road, but refined on it, which is where most spend their lives. And it's relatively affordable. They nailed it.
Sure, they could've stuck a caricature body on the new car like Mercedes. Meh, would it have made it any better?
But land-rover is a business with the goal of selling cars. They definitely made the right choice, however you personally feel about that car
I love this car! So nice to see old good things like manual handbrake coming back!
A car that people who want simple have been asking for. I'm happy Sir Jim Radcliffe went ahead with this, good simple car that won't be as big of a pig to drive on the road (Big fan of the old defender but it was dangerous in modern traffic).
Also, the old technology is utilised exceptionally well on this and modern conveniences have been added which in my eyes makes this one of the best cars this year.
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@Macavity I 100% agree with that.
It wasn’t dangerous
BMW parts, the opposite of simple
How is the old defender dangerous in modern traffic?
I love that pop-up sunroof. My Dad had one on his Montego in 1987, it was the height of luxury.
I love the old styling of this vehicle.
same!
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That creaking and squeeking would drive me mad. Hopefully just because it is a prototype
It will be, most of the interior on those cars is 3D printed or fast manufacture
The interior of the LR defender is way better, I'd prefer it for that alone
The panomric roof and the roof holes make it a better passesnger experience
Its probably gonna continue squeaking and creaking, truthfully the Current Defender is what I call a proper upgrade from the disco 4&3 and unlike the Disco 5 you can take it offroad and not feel bad about scratching a panel or the bumper, the ineos is cool but you can't compare it to the Defender when it comes to comfortability and daily driveability and the fact that the new defender doesn't have a ladder frame chassis I sure know which care I'd like to be in offroading as well and it's definitely not the ineos
Yeah, it was the steering wheel creaking every turn
... and that stupid DingDing...
Mat !! I think this review of any vehicle is the best that I have ever seen, very explanative with no daft gimmicks thrown in for audience entertainment. I also liked the way you immediately put your hand up to boo-boos (a big tic for that) Factually brilliant, I want an INEOS and will look not further for a sales description of this vehicle. Thank you very much for this video..... as an experienced off roader and teacher can I be very rude and be a little of a nit-picker Don't put your thumbs inside the steering wheel when off roading, if you hit an unseen obstacle that twitches the wheels you can break your thumbs ...nit pic over thanks again for a brilliant review.
Im 100% buying one.
Its going to be my new photography rig.
Tons of roof room sleeping room and itll go anywhere i need.
I would have thought that the 60/40 rear split seats would align with the door openings, i.e. the 40 split with the small opening and the 60 split with the wider one.
Its got lots of obvious design flaws like that...given the ground up nature, its very surprising such obvious things were missed
Not only that but he showed the rear seat backs don't lay down level with the rear floor making it nice and flat.
The fact the seats don’t fold flat is crazy. Rules the car out for me, the things massive, but there less usable “tip run” space than my old Mercedes ml, which has a fully flat floor.
@@sheerluckholmes5468 That's because the battery and electronics are underneath the rear seat. Supposedly they will be in a waterproof box.
Its got some weird design choices which I guess comes from the ground up design. Wedging that 3.0L beamer engine into a weirdly shaped engine bay, for one. Its just such an inefficient layout which causes the weird humped roof and leaves no space for the electronics/ battery. The suspension mounts for the leaf springs are left danging below the frame, thats just not how modern ladder frame/ leaf springs work. You've basically just compromised your ground clearance. And the list goes on.
JLR missed a trick when it designed the new Defender; as Matt says, this is the car that the new Defender should have been (and the new Defender should have been the Discovery replacement). If you configure the new Defender to any decent spec its price overlaps Discos and some RR Sports - shades of the pricing hiatus that plagued BL. And it's not built in Wales because a) the Welsh government refused to improve logistics flow along the M4 in S Wales, and b) because Ineos is taking over a Mercedes plant in France, so no huge financial or carbon footprint cost that would otherwise have been incurred by a new build. All of this demonstrates why Jim Ratcliffe is so successful. I agree with Matt - the Grenadier will be a huge success.
If Landrover had designed the new Defender like this, they would have gone out of buisness.......
@@maxtorque2277 how do you mean?
@@maxtorque2277 I agree
@@adveyrastogi3486 Because it looks like a really badly modified version of the old defender, not a cool one like say Twisted. Why has it got all the 'bits' stuck to the doors?
@@IslaSprollie If it would be a genuine LR design it obviously would not look like a bad mod. This is still a tough well built car no matter how it looks :)
The 450 nm of torque from the engine might seem low, but an 8 speed torque converter gearbox offers low enough gearing, so that what you want is a nice flat torque curve.
Sorry I fell asleep halfway reading through that..
It must be detuned, because in my BMW with the same engine it’s producing 620nm of torque.
@@Theocurrie Exactly, it's tuned for offroad use, which favours low-end torque and high reliability, but of course with a ECU remap you can get to your numbers easily
@@xxxxxtrxxx13 according to Ineos BMW have tuned the straight 6 to lose HP to gain torque for the off road ability so not sure if the figures quoted here are correct. th-cam.com/video/vZFk1qJDWlk/w-d-xo.html
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The creaking of the steering wheel every time he turns is SENDING ME
I'm so excited for this car. Seems a bit counterintuitive to not have mechanical dials for speedo and rev counter, considering the car is built with simplicity and reliability in mind. Would also be interested to see if there is space to fit additional fuel and water tanks.
I can understand why LR would want to take them to court for copyright but as far as I know, copyright only lasts 25 years. I suspect LR are pissed off because they discontinued their own Defender and perhaps wished they had of made this. This Grenadier looks like it will become a real commercial truck and not something for the city.
I heard that part of that sue was a study, in which they were presenting a silhouette of the Grenadier and asking people what car is on the picture and most of them replied simply a jeep :)
Highly doubt that since the new Defender is selling like hotcakes.
The EU emissions killed off the old defender, land rover should have kept the shell and upgraded the engine. Instead they've given us a chunky range rover. Ineos will kill off the new defender.
@@mrpete1972 I wonder if crash tests were a factor too? I love the old style Defender more though definitely.
@@mrpete1972 this won’t kill off the new defender, the new defender is better in nearly every way, and it’s starting price is even cheaper, you also have a lot more options when it comes to engines etc, You get more vehicle for your money along with the name of a icon.
For a review that considers the prototype of this vehicle from the perspective of a serious off-roader, have a look at AllOffroad 4x4 Adventures TV. His review identifies several potential shortcomings, including ground clearance, protruding steering damper, ramp over angle and woeful fuel capacity (for touring). Hopefully there are solutions in the pipeline.
But all of those things were some of the(many) flaws that the defender has always had so its completely on brand
With ten year old Defenders fetching £40k and new ones about double that, it’s market appeal is assured.
Unlike Land Rover, who rely upon their image and brand from their past, success will depend more on the leasing cost, reliability and the service network than on the car itself.
These are dope! I’m so happy to see smaller companies like this coming in and building manual, old school, low tech, purpose built vehicles. I’d love to see a company come in and build a manual transmission, low tech sports car.
Hey look! Its what everybody wanted the New defender to be! That new rear door is the answer to our biggest problem with the old one, pulling cattle trailer the door makes such a small gap with the spare tyre on. But everything else is exactly what's needed!
I have the new Defender P300 and having had a 1998 Defender 90 for 12 years, the new one wins hands down. I can certainly report that the air suspension really excels in the wild outback areas of Henley-on-Thames towards Nettlebed.
😁😁😁😁
I should think is does for £80,000
I actually really like this, some really good design features, love the aircraft style roof switches, cool 😎
I've been waiting for the Grenadier for several years now and in that time the price has doubled! As a farmer, Ineos must be dreaming if they think we will pay £53k starting price. Maybe a wealthy land owner would buy it, although they would probably get a Range Rover instead. Therefore I'm not sure who this is for. Maybe townies with large incomes who want to play at off roading at the weekend? Although why not just buy the more luxurious new Defender. I would buy this but it would have to be closer to the original price.
That price is ludacris. Should be £25K topps
They'd indeed make more profit if they price it lower and sell more instead of pricing like its a luxury car and only sell to the wealthy
For that kind of money I could have a ground up rebuild on my defender and still have change!
@@warrenhulme1193 And it would still leak like a sieve, rattle and creak, be unbearably noisy, pollute like a tractor and have switch gear, seals, wipers, gauges and so much more, based on 70s British Leyland parts bins. I've had my Defender, from new since 2001and driven it 95,000 miles, mainly off-road. I've lost count of the parts I've replaced, many, many, more than once. New locks all around, that I can still open with a screwdriver. Don't talk such tosh about restoration being better than the Grenadier. This thing is an absolute thing of beauty and you're delusional if you think any rebuilt Defender comes anywhere near. This is the Defender, Landrover should have built, fit for the 21st Century.
@@Darkest_matter Behave. A Ford Fiesta costs more than that.
The first car I’ve truly wanted in ages. Looks like a car you could keep for the rest of your life.
Love seeing the smile faces in all journalists driving the Grenadier.
Mat mate.. you deserve more than this.. really a good real review and you’re so natural and informative at it. really really well done! finally there’s somebody come up with the company where we can custom our very own truck! This is next future classic! I want one 🔥
He's a millionaire within 4 years, drives expensive cars for free long term loaners, what more does he deserve?
Think he’s doing ok. Carwow is now the largest automotive TH-cam channel in the world 🤣
@@CarThought top gear?? chrisfix??
@@hahaha-mj7oe both are dwarfed by carwow viewing figures. They may currently have more subscribers but are far behind for monthly views.
For example last month Chris fix had 17.4 million views, top gear 22.6 million… Car Wow 61.175 million 😂
@@hahaha-mj7oe Lol, top gear. Lolololololololol, that bitter, lying ChrisFix.
I am in Australia and planning to purchase one of these when they are released here in September. Provided they drive well on the road. So far I have seen many many reviews offroad and have no doubts about their capabilities but not a single review of how they drive on motorways, dirt/gravel roads and B roads.
These are gonna sell like hotcakes in Australia. Way better than a 70 series cruiser
Of course it doesn't drive well on the road, not that any ladder frame chassis off roader does. The steering is also awful and doesn't self centre.
@@Yimello It does drive extremely well on the road. Surprisingly good. Motorway, highway, back country road or old gravel road. It just eats them up
Any of you who know me, know I've been a lifelong Land Rover fan. I almost cried when I saw the new Defender - not one bit what I'd hoped for.
When I first saw the Grenadier - I wasn't that enthused, though it was a lot better than the new Defender. However, it has grown on me! Even I'm surprised how much. I have a Range Rover Sport for long journies and until recently a 110 Doublecab for anything dirty. I really wanted something like the 110 for practicality but with the ride quality and creature comforts (simple things like cup holders!) of the Range Rover (which is still gorgious to drive).
It looks a lot like a G-Wagon to me too. That of course was another option, but they are just too expensive to be practical. I'd rather have a top end Range Rover for the money.
The Grenadier looks like it might fit both roles (and it even has cup holders! ;-) ). High probability I'll be driving one eventually.
I love it! As a Defender owner (x2 Perentie) I will definitely give a Grenider driver a wave.
This is one of the best reviews Mat has ever done.
I'd love to see an offroad comparison video with the production version of this car and the new Defender. Both on offroad tires!
They both will do exactly the same. Throw new Toyota 4Runner in the mix even. All will perform the same. The difference can cone only in offroad situations where you want to break one of these vehicles. But All the normal offroad trails, all of the 4x4 will do ok.
Both with lockers specified.
..and the old defender, the g-63 (because why not, and then they have pedigree to share after all), and one of the old Land Cruisers too if doable
if the new defender works and drives it will be the same (however they have shitty quality control) -
Split seat should line up with the mini door on the rear. So it can be dropped for long poles, etc.
Why would you put a long pole through a small door?
@@samuelharris2473 6 foot fence post that farmers use. Might not fit in so leave the small door open. I suppose could fit in diagonally.
@@flybobbie1449 Or you could just put the other seats down...
@@TheUkdan02 not if you wanted 4 on board.
15:32 that big ridge in the cargo space instead of a flush floor, is to keep water and liquids out, even during deceleration or steep descent.
I had a ride in an early prototype here in Queensland in mid Jan, I was impressed, and seeing a more close to production vehicle, the order will be going in. As an overlander accross Australia, I think this will be brilliant,
save your money,or what,? 90k.. +.. after fitting it out. get your self an olde but goodi.. gu nissan, or 80 series. only 2 4x4rs worth buying. preferably the nissan. remember this,, you sht 1 sensor, wet,burned out,,out in the desert,,you die..i have a 2002 ford f250 s/duty. no computer, no glow plugs, 4.2tdi, bigger turbo 700nm. 12.5 lt 100. 35' tires 3' lift. nothing compares. cab chassis, 2.9mtrs of tray. turns better than a 79 series, cheaper more economical, .land rover,is still land rover. destined to break..cost me 25k, done 170 ks. in 4 yrs, only replaced the hubs. $400. bolt off, bolt on. 4 bolts. replaced the drum diff with a disc rear, from a 5.4, $500. fitted drilled slotted rotora, ceramic pads, my choice, not needed. 3 air tanks, ex fire extinguishers, to a big 300 lt compressor, NOT, arb rubbish. removable winch, hitch front & rear. all gear & sleep in back. total cost, 28k..
Hard to find BMW parts in the outback. The BMW engine and gearbox give me pause although I love the idea of the car. We’ve got an old 99 defender and it’s relatively hard to find parts in remote Aus compared to say Toyota parts.
@@antwbrown funny enough after some considerable thought, we will probably end up with a 300 series and add ARB accessories and lockers.
@@ScootyG Good choice! Love the 300 series, bullet proof. And you'll be glad when looking for radiator hoses/wheel bearings out the back of Bourke. Good luck on your travels!
@@antwbrown the Ineos actually has an Allison transmission not BMW, as for the engine I would've gone with either Mercedes or Iveco
Having owned a 1997 Defender 190 which was the last year they were legally imported into the USA, I would have chosen the Ineos if it was available. Seems very capable while offering creature comforts not available on the Defender. I know later Defenders in the UK had a better interior.
I wouldn't say they were better, they maybe looked nicer, but you lost more and more storage and made it harder to get at the windscreen wiper motor, the puma fixed the terrible a/c but you lost the flap up vents. They never got it perfect because of penny pinching.
What's a 190?? That's huge!!
@@russmiddleton2713 ye must be the 8x8 model😂
I can't believe the idling engine low bass sound got recorded. Nice one!
This is a rival for a G-wagon not an original defender, I can’t see many farmers splashing out £48000 for the base model grenadier. The original defender became obsolete for its target market: farmers! Farmers mostly moved to Japanese vehicles as they’re far cheaper and more reliable.
I pray that the colour combos that we've seen on these preproduction models will be used on the production model. And this only weighs 500kg more than the old defender 110, but that's only safety equipment, so it's not that bad
Yeah these prototype colors looks very good
Fucking hate these spam bots
Try carrying 10 of 50kg bags of ballast on your back to see what it really means. Or more sensibly, carry ten 50kg bags of anything [yes they are still available] from one place to another, 100 metres apart.
@@hedydd2 it's a fucking car, 500kg is nothing for it. Half a ton is too much for anyone but a utility vehicle like this is easy
@@harleyrobertson6746
That’s a massive amount of extra weight as I illustrated. It effects everything from handling to fuel economy to the performance on and off road to the amount of payload it can carry while also towing, to the class of MOT inspection it has, to its speed limits on certain roads as a commercial vehicle in many countries.
Not gonna lie. This car looks awesome especially the paint and the interior
I am looking forward to a head to head to head offroad test with the old and the modern Defender!
Brilliant! A sensible 21st Century 4x4 car manufacturer for once! Would love one!
Niceee 😃👍. It's nice to see a new properly off-road style 4X4 among all of these expensive, luxury SUVs (although I do like some of these like the new Defender in 🙂👍).
What an amazing car! 😱
This is the true Defender successor.
You mean this is the true defender copy... they basically didn't improve anything (besides a more modern interior) and just took what was already good from the original. It's honestly almost too close to be legal.
@@soerenbo no, this is completely innacurate. It's a completely different car, despite looking somewhat similar. Different chassis, different design/production processes, completely different powertrain. There's literally nothing the same except the basic exterior design and the broad ethos.
@@calvinschultink8452
It’s a bit of a 20th Century Dinosaur really. A non-identical twin to the 1984 Land Rover One-Ten that has been to the gym to work-out and build up it’s muscles. It does compete directly, in its current form, with the current Defender. I wonder what commercial advantage it is thought to have over the current Defender?
@@calvinschultink8452 I only think they shouldn't used the BMW powertrain...
Cummins ISB4.5 and Ford Godzilla would be an better choice.
@@AMV12S I think it's a wait and see situation, but I understand the concern. I think maybe they recognise the world has changed, and are attempting to adapt within reason. They are putting a lot of faith in BMW reliability/roadside assist networks....
Another dream vehicle. I truly wish the diesel was coming to the US.
Bloody love that centre console
For the production models, I hope that 'bong' isn't as persistent as it was in the prototype! And I assume they'll stop the steering wheel from creaking too!
That noise nearly drove me crazy. I had to fast forward through the parts with it
This truck is a BMW Land Rover Defender (before and after BMW owning Land Rover) made in the same factory as Mercedes trucks. Wild.
If Land Rover won't make cars like this anymore then I can't blame this company and vehicle for filling the gap. Time will tell if it's as good as what it inspires to be
Amazing off-roader 👌🏽 they did an incredible job!
It will definitely be a big seller when it comes out, and I'm sure many Landrover drivers will purchase it.
But i swear if i only hear one more time that "biep biep" like BMW's also have i will get crazy!! 🙈
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This is the car I was waiting for 🖤 RIP Defender you were a handsome lad.
I've watched this episode with big, full, honest smile on my face and pure kids fun. I want one!
Will you get that noice that the steering makes as standard or is it an extra pricey option😂?
Yeah that would get annoying pretty quickly ... and what's with all the bong noises as well ?
@@dad_jokes_4ever226 Well I hope that all of that will go away with it still being a prototyp. Does look really nice 👌🏾. Hope it doesn’t change much🙂
@@dad_jokes_4ever226 right! I was thinking surely I couldn't be the only one to notice that as well! Maybe just a seat belt warning, as Matt was wearing a harness, not the "standard" belt?
Its axles are made by Carraro, an Italian leading company talking about axles! They work with names such as John Deere and Claas!
Yes, tractors. Not the same thing at all.
That creaking steering column would do my head in
Hopefully that’s just because it’s a prototype vehicle.
@@Jabber-ig3iw I assume so
At least you know they have copied a landrover in every detail
@@eliotmansfield underrated comment😂😂
On my induction day at the warehouse, I was asked if I heard about ineos, I answered no, the trainer said is basically a knock off of land rover defender😂 had a great time working at ineos line met amazing people from manager and supervisors to machine operator.
This is what the new defender should've been! If this comes to American markets Id consider buying one! Its an offroader!
Ok this definitely looks slight bit more of an ideal LandRover. More like an updated edition of a classic one.
Especially the interior. Thats even more updated than updated itself. It is more "well thought of" than a standard "well thought of". I like it.
Brilliant video. What a great vehicle. Well done Ineos. A real off-roader, none of this lifestyle nonsense. 👏
The split rear is a Toyota 70 series item from the 1980's. Still an impressive vehicle, my only concern is that the cooling pack at the front drops below the bumper. It looks very prown to being damaged or clogged with mud.
This car has a lot of potential. 10/10 Off-road review
I live in Australia and I’m so glad to hear these cars are going to be sold here. Unlike the Bronco. You miss out Ford!
The success of this vehicle will be largely down to fleet buyers like UN aid agencies etc - my big concern will be a dealer network with the availability of off the shelf parts in the wilds of Africa for example. I think Ineos made a huge error of not using lots of readily available Toyota spares which you can easily find throughout the world . Good luck getting BMW spares in Burundi or Mogadishu!
If the UN and aid agencies are buying fleets of vehicles, then i should hope they are able to bring parts with them.
I like how it's built like a mini tank on wheels 😏
Only the prototypes were built at Magna-Steyr plant in Austria (where the G-Class is built), the mass production will be in France.
True, but as he "was sat" in a prototype, the car he was in probably was built in Graz.
They used to build better cars in Graz than this...like the Pinzgauer. 👍
@@pinzgauerbelgium :-D The Pinzgauer is arguably worse as a car, but better offroad than anything anyone builds at the moment. (maybe apart from tanks and some Unimog Variants)
I can see MattWatson so exited about this vehicle, I know what you want for next Christmas 🤣 very nice car
Good to see Henry catchpole in the background there
Mat is in the best environment to review this insane SUV
Is that creaking noise coming from the steering wheel??
Probably. Its a pre-production vehicle, so some things aren't quite ready yet
It's a prototype so it's not as good as the production car.
I quite like this truck, it's a real good idea to fill the gap left by the old Defender. The demand was indeed strong. I'm surprised there's no V8 option, I thought it should retain BMW's 4.4. I hope the beeping and grinding noise when turning the wheel will be gone on production examples 😂
I'm hopeing when they tap into the north American market a LS might appear. Ticks all the boxes. Cheap , plentiful, parts everyware. And easy to work on.
Yep. The 4.4 V8 from the D3 would be an amazing engine in the Ineos.
I love the chassis demo that the dealer made👍
I just configured mine and put a pre-order in yesterday. Have to wait now for INEOS to finalize their dealer network in the US.
What landrover should have done 20 years ago!
Mercedes is also working on an absolute basic, proper agricultural G wagen for the masses..😍
I hear the Russian oligarchs and footballers are looking forward to the new g wagon for the masses… :)
will this be available in Canada? Were still under the rulership of the royal family so
I THINK WE DESERVE THE PRIVILEGE OF PURCHASING SUCH A MACHINE
the split tailgate is brilliant!
this is a proper defender 😍
BMW didn’t work when they owned JLR previously. In fact nearly took them out of business - I’d have a new defender over this any day of the week.
Even though it's generic in its design it has some character that many new cars just don't have they try to have as many angles or big grills just for the wow factor
ASPW gonna go absolutely furious when the car starts to beep at him for no reason.
On the serious side of things am looking forward to all the "INEOS Grenadier VS" videos that will come when it's launched to the public
ASPW is a complete nut case.
I tell you, he would get even more furious when I say that my old-school INDEPENDENT SUSPENSION van (VW T3 Syncro) can pass this "offroad test" single handedly. 😀
I have just configured mine with a bull bar and checker plates on the front wings. Solid blue, white roof, 18" steelies with BF Goodrich tyres. base seats and rubber floor covering. Can't wait for them to arrive down here n Sunny Queensland Australia
Real off roader with the best diesel engine u can dream of. Definitely want to buy one of this.
3.0 l engine is a bit big no?
@@Retro-Future-Land no, it's not big. Just enough
Reminds me of my 90s Shogun
Seen years of prototypes from INEOS but will it ever be produced for the school run ?
I’m really interested in how the reliability of the beemer engines proves to be over a few years.
Already a proven engine over many years which is the reason INEOS selected it. When I researched it I was surprised how many awards BMW had received for both the petrol and diesel engines.
@@rowanraath
Awards for long term reliability and longevity? I think not. Certainly not for repairability or low parts prices.
@@rowanraath Awards only ever given for new engines. They never factor in longevity. Same reason Toyotas get bad reviews compared to other brands. Toyota does not try and get every available hp or torque because it doesnt want to stress the engines. Toyotas will trump almost any car in its class if the testing was done 15 years after production
My X5 (had two) never gave me any trouble
@@raymondallo9947 Lovely cars. How many miles were on each of them?
The Isuzu Bighorn (I forgot the UK name) also had a split tailgate like the Grenadier.
Trooper
And Toyota Troopy
Love it, a proper Land Rover
Almost nobody knows this car, but it reminds me of the Portuguese UMM! It’s a nice reminder of my country
An Industry First: the interior that creaks and rattles as aggressively as the terrain its designed for.
Love this rig, wish they sell in Canada!
Excellent machine as a prototype matt , nice choice of engine's although if it's 48 grand upwards that's where it falls down ☹
The 1990 Izuzu Trooper had the same tailgate. It's a nice design and very handy as you pointed out!
I've been watching your videos for a long long time now, Honest, fair, witty and smart analysis and reviews.
But this one time I felt like you were biased ... Strongly !
In every way the new defender is better - capabilities and comfort. This is a dream project of some one who loves to stubbornly hang on to the age old methods. There is no way this is better that the new defender given they cost the same. Conveniently you said its half the price of a G Wagon straying away from the obvious comparison with the Defender.
Mind you this is from a company that is notorious for its fracking and green washing activities !