I had a 650 Suzuki Burgman for a few years . That had 50 ltrs of storage under the seat. A proper tourer . It had a specially shaped bag to fit . 2 weeks luggage for me .
Thanks for this amazing review and it was one of the big factors of me purchasing this bike and I picked it up yesterday. You really helped me make my decision and I’m so impressed with the bike
49 year old bloke here, never a biker and no CBT and was only interested in watching vids of PCX or Super Cub with an idea for town commuting. Never thought about 'scooters' on B-roads. So thanks mate, you've brought on my mid-life crisis. Top review.
Done my cbt at 50 just to get to work never though I would fall in love with two wheels and doing second cbt next week and hopefully on to big boys bike but probably going to stay with scooters 300 400 plenty for me more importantly stay safe. People. 🛵
The key is for opening the seat of your battery goes flat so you can access the battery compartment under the seat.. same as my X-ADV, under the rear mud guard
The Integra was an astounding scooter - i upgraded to VFR1200F DCT but completely get why you would love a 750cc DCT scooter. I would recommend everyone has a test drive of Honda's DCT bikes, there are plenty.
The Key. On the tip of the arch of the rear wheel remove the key cover insert the key twist then it will release the seat. This is to be used if you have a flat battery. The UK just only have Two colours Black and Blue. Europe have Four Colours Back, Blue, Red, and Cream. Blue is a wonderful choice. That's the one I have. On the left handle bar control button FN is for the Heated Grips. They say that the fuel comsuption will be at its best 78 mpg and with a 13.1 ltr tank. In two weeks all I've done is 10 miles. I'm not working at the moment. Must get out.
My current bike is a Tiger 1200 Alpine Edition but as a past owner of all types of bikes, sports, cruisers etc including a Bergman 650 and a 2015 T-Max 530 Iron, I am a big fan of big scoots so I watched with interest. Before you got to the “shortcomings” I had already searched the switch blocks for the cruise buttons but alas, none to be found. So agree totally, fit cruise control, an electric screen and provide an optional quality matching top case of around 45L capacity and Bob’s your uncle!
Excellent video. Ive had both forza 300 old and new style were great and had a gilera gp 800. And got a aprilia srv 850. What I absolutely love it is brilliant love the big scooters
The first three minutes reminded me of the time another Honda dealer lent me an X-ADV while the Wing was being serviced. Chuckled all the way home from West London to the East. Taking it back round the M25 in the morning, not so much, but it did it perfectly comfortably.
As soon as I hired ADV 750 in Madeira Portugal for five days I wanted to buy it. But I wanted style so went for the Forza 750. Traded in my BMW R1200RT. What I like about the manual mode is that you’ve changed down then want auto you’ve slowed down auto will change so it won’t labour the engine. Your also able to customise the screen. Lower part of the screen two items Mr Fish didn’t mention or show. Your able to display Engine Water Temperature also motorcycle charging state. Also ordered the central locking top box. I absolutely Love it. Updated August 2022 Just come from France Spain Gibraltar then traveling to Madrid then North to Santander then the Ferry to Portsmouth. Its a fantastic Weather was in the middle 35c. I would get another DCT gearbox never faulted.
If you want an NC750X buffed up with a TFT, large windscreen, comfortable seat, twin front disks, upside down forks and loads of room for your feet this is the bike for you. You lose .9L fuel capacity. I would love to try it out. I didn’t personally get on with the X-ADV and I preferred the riding position on the NC750X and that it was 2.5K cheaper than the X-ADV.
LOVE IT! SUPERB VLOG, lovely looking bike I have a Yamaha TMAX 560 Tech, it has heated grips, electric screen, centre stand lock,and cruise control, I wish the Honda had those extras.. I would be really willing to get one if it did, as I would now certainly miss those items.... I love the sound of the Honda👏🏽 Thanks once again for a brilliant vlog/video👍🏽😁💚
It would be very good for short trips even in winter with a large Givi top box like I have on my CB500F. Good wind and weather protection. Heated seat, grips. I’m 5’8 so the screen would be perfect.
I love it. Been a sports bike and adventure bike rider for 40 years, as I age I must think about how to keep riding into my 60s and 70s. This would suit me very well, I think.
P.s key to open the seat what hidden round the back , some were if the battery goes flat , same on the XADV, they also can make the same key to fit your back box also
I'm on to my 3rd 125 forza since they came out, I love my scooter ,only use it for work its great commuter bike. will have to work my way up to the 750cc. gerat review cheers ...Ride Safe
The key is in case you lose the fob or it’s battery dies, you’ll find a key slot under the back of the bike above the wheel (probably covered with a rubber lid) it should open the seat and there’s a device in the tool kit that you plug into something near the battery then you input a code using the starter button, push once for no.1 and so on with a short gap between each number like morse code. Well it was for my X-ADV anyway
When you use the mode for 'like User', you want no Traction Control...hold the switch down till at no T/C showin'...etc on them all' (*note...used for peelin'-out & liftin' 'em front tire, also!
Great review. For me it’s between this or the X-ADV. Your Gold Wing comment is much the same as a German review some while ago. No small coincidence and speaks volumes. My only issues are the screen and very small storage and whether the NC750 even with it’s lesser spec makes it better buy. Head says NC heart says X-ADV.
When I tried the X-ADV in 2018 it didn’t have enough extra for the 2.5k price hike. I think the 21 Forza maybe. However I don’t have to get off the bike to use the NC750X frunk and my heated jacket and usb cables run from the frunk.
Nice review again sir. For me I think they’ve missed a trick by not having an electrically adjustable screen but apart from that it looks a corker. Steve
I’ve had two Honda “scooters” in the past and now riding a Burgman400. I thought I was happy. This Honda 750 looks pretty amazing. I only wish the makers of these maxi bikes would design them with a false “gas tank” storage compartment. That would give the rider something to squeeze the knees against if you live in an area prone to strong winds.. plus you get extra storage. If they had this and the high CC’s they would be more perfect bikes. Well done Honda on this one.. I just hope quality control is back. My past three Honda’s (including a Rebel 500) were all bought back as certified lemons. My Burgie always gets me home, love him.
Great review and looks a great bike. As a former X-ADV owner I'm a big fan of this engine and DCT combination and I think this looks better and has slightly more practicality than the X-ADV. Disappointed about the lack of adjustability on the screen, the X-ADV has manually adjustable screen (albeit a rather clumsy awkward one) and more significantly, my son's 2020 Forza 125 has a slick electronically adjustable screen, so not sure what Honda were thinking here.
I hear that the Forza 125 is the same dimensions as the 300/350. The other options for learner legal scooters are physically small things. Larger people are ok on them for a brief time, but they'll get fed up of making themselves small. If spending any length of time on a bike/scooter... it should be a "me sized" bike. There are plenty of big 17year olds who will prefer the extra comfort from the Forza, and the electric screen is probably a happy accident for the 125 - a carry over from the 300.
I don't think that moving the mirrors would be ugly. Put some sort of plug or grommet in there to make sure it looks neat. I would put them up on the handlebars
Perfect for someone who's had a crash and can't bend the right leg very well, but for £10k it's missing the cruise control and maintenance free belt drive or shaft, I'd have that rather than sports bike spec front end. Great video Mr. Fish, lovely to see you back showing us bikes.
The original chain on the NC750X was rubbish but my X-ring chain hasn’t needed adjusting in 12k miles by me, (I forgot to ask if it was adjusted on my annual service last week) - just spray a bit of lube on it occasionally.
I know, I had an NC, I thought I rode it too hard but that chain was really rubbish; however, O, X AA ring or any other type, chain cleaning and lubing remains my least favourite jobs on a bike and is especially dificult when you're half handicaped
It is sooo good to have you back in the saddle. Great review, scooters are blurring the lines with bikes more each year. Hopefully Honda will add the options you mentioned - perfection.😀😀😉
Looks like a great bike, I like the colour and bet its an incredibly practical bike to own. Would make a great all rounder that would be easy to tour on too - just needs a top box.
Hi mr fish absolutely good to see you back test riding lovely bike the forza but the bike like the X-ADV does not have cruise control would have thought Honda's engineers would put one on their so touring would be made a lot less stressful but there you go good to see you back vlogin 👌👌👍👍🤗😁
Great, thanks for that and your valued comments Mr Fish. Been waiting for a decent review on the Honda Forza 750 and delighted yours was the first I saw.. Had a Honda 750X DCT and sold it last year for a Honda Forza 300, now i can get a best of both worlds lol.
@@tonymann8215 How is the 750X DCT uncomfortable? I was sitting on it in the showroom, and I noticed I had to lean forward and rest my upper body on the handlebars. Is this what you mean? I am worried this will be tiring as I am used to a Piaggio X10 350 where you sit pretty much upright.
@@iShriek My NC 750 was a 2017 and the seat was hard and had a slope downwards to the front, something that lots of people on the NC facebook group complained about and found various ways of sorting it out. Honda may have improved it amongst their changes for the 2021 model. Companies like Shad do comfort seats for them though so it’s not a deal breaker if you like the bike.
235Kg a bit heavy, no electric screen, storage under seat small, no cruise control, no heated grips, chain maintenance, high price for what you get. In France, you get 5 years warranty.
Yes. Absolutely needs heating and cruise control for that money. Also, for 10k the keyless top box and/or panniers should be included. That, I would legitimately spend £10,000 on. As it is, it just doesn't seem worth it.
I tend to think of this as the scooter version of the NC750x, but this is actually more upscale. The NC doesn’t have dual disks , and it doesn’t have inverted forks. This has both.
I bought one of these, but with all the luggage and heated grips. Mostly I agree with your review. I bought this after owning a DCT NC750X for two years. Couple of points. Once you adjust the mirrors that's it done. I'm only 5' 10" and can adjust no problem. I think the mirror mounting points on the brake reservoirs gives options for 3rd parties to make accessories to mount in these spaces. With the bike being throttle by wire, I cant understand why Honda did not give the bike cruise control. It would have been so easy to do.
I'm interested in the new Forza 750, and after watching a few videos, I may be wrong, but I think it sounds quite noisy. I would be interested to know if you find it louder than the NC750X or about the same, and also can I ask you if you like the sound of the Forza? Thank you.
@@rkbeswick Cool. Although I stay near Glasgow, Paul at Doble Motorcycles did me a great deal on my trade-in and delivered the bike to my door. 2nd bike bought from Doble's, never set foot in the showroom, never met any of the staff. Highly recommend.
Now imagine that with the 1100 AT engine with a shaft drive that space under the seat taken up with a fuel tank, a frunk as on the NC, cruise control, electric mirrors and screen.
Great review and that’s a great looking scoobike, should have cruise and a power screen I took one out for a test ride couple weeks ago loved it can’t afford though 😢
Excellent review, nice to see you back on the road with your banter! If you are doing the XADV, could you show it with a top box and a passenger sitting on it when you are parked, just to see how it looks as a possible mini tourer?
I'd like to see you do a review of the Kymco AK550. I've had the Burger 650, the Swing, Kymco 400i, but I'm between this Forza and the AK. Chain, small storage, small display, and non adjustable screen for the Forza is making me favor the AK550. But I'm still comparing before making the purchase. Edit: I just noticed that the front fender doesn't come down far enough to protect the radiator :(
I have bought one after a long time waiting I can fully agree with u a little more poke it could definitely handle cruise control and the elektric windshield .. By the way thanks for the awesome review 🙂🍻 cheers
Good review. I wish they had put the rear turn signals in the body work like they did the front. That looks sharp. I'm 6'4" and 19 stone. I really appreciate you talking about that. A few shots of you riding by on a roundabout would be easy to get, and very helpful. Thanks for a great review on what looks to be a pretty neat bike.
Thank you! Just completed my A licence in Austria and as an "Older Rider" wasn't sure what bike would be good for my Wife and I to "cruise" up to Salzburg (70 miles)to visit our Grandson. I'm ordering the Forza 750!!
hi mr fish. im from usa , California . i enjoy your videos and tour's. could you please record a video with you stopping at a deli,ordering and eating ,paying and through the process? im curious to see the local shops. thanks.
I have a prosthetic left leg. How well does it balance sitting still? Does it feel heavy with a slight lean sitting still? I'm 71 and have been riding since 1964 and miss riding since my amputation. I did ride a Suzuki Bergman scooter for a couple of years but found out that it doesn't balance very well sitting at a stoplight, it just felt heavy. It was great riding but to its scooter nature it did not have much rear suspension travel, so you had to really try to dodge all pot holes.
Easiest way to get bikes that Honda won’t import is to have relatives in Canada. Have them buy it and register it then ride it to the US and have them sell it to you. Pisses off the dmv but there isn’t fuck all they can do at that point. Biggest problem is you need a Speedo that reads mph as well as but that can be made fairly easily out of the existing dial
An older guy in my riding group just sold his GW after many years of ownership and got the same scooter. For an 82 years of young man, its a great tool. Happy riding.
Interesting vid. Having recently bought a Tmax 530 in order to see what all this scooter thing is all about. What you say about the Forza 750 is very similar to my impressions of my Tmax 530. It's called a scooter but imho, it is more like a small Yamaha FJR. In short, I love my Tmax. I would undoubtedly love the Forza 750. I'm sticking with Yamaha.
Thanks a lot for this very informative review. I also like the cbr650r review you did and believe it or not...like 'm both and don't know which to choose. I know it's apples and pears....will have to think again....thanks again!
What I fail to understand is if this is effectively an NC750x, which itself was originally based on a scooter design, and I thought the fuel tank was repositioned under seat allowing for the frunk to occupy the space the tank took but this bike seems to have fuel and lid storage under the seat but still seems to have plenty of space for a frunk.
I think he liked it? Good review but he didn’t take it up to motorway speeds. What’s it like at 70+mph? As a 74-year-old NC750DCT rider, I might get one when I’m 80.
Great to see u enjoy yourself back doing things u love.. Or at least some of them. How's the Africa twin BTW?? Still sick bay? Would love to see that back on the road
Do you think it is genuinely something you could do lots of motorway miles on? You mention how, at your height, the buffeting affects only the top part of your lid; how about other areas like shoulders, hips etc?
@@Mrfish2015 I’ll get a test ride done, come April 12th. All over it, if it can munch motorways - albeit for only about an hour at a time. Love the GW comparison, not least since I was contemplating one of those.
The main thing that makes this "not a scooter" in my opinion - is the chain and sprocket final drive. Scooters are for lowest maintenance possible people, like myself.
Not to include a Cruise Controll on this "scooter" is simply a DUMB decision - no other way to put it otherwise. The system is already "Ride By Wire" - so what stopped them ?🤔
The integra had ZERO under seat storage...they should have brought this model out years ago. Just maybe get rid of some of the plastic around the handle bar and make it more like the X ADV naked design. And drop the price pls hehe. Oh and I think the dual front discs are a bit overkill...wont hurt to loose a few KG's by going one disc.
Nice 1st impressions Mr Fish :-) So...If you could only have this or the African Twin...What's your choice ??....Looking forward to your thoughts on the XADV against this one :-)
Even if you’re adjusting the mirrors stopped you should be able to do it from your normal riding position, you have to lean back and forward until you get the angle right on this, it’s awkward
I've got a 300 Forza. I was going to test ride the new 350 but I might test this , if they have it. The stock pictures Honda have don't do it justice. It looks awesome and as others have said the 300 lacks a little power, although you can probably say that about any scooter except maybe this one? Lol I tried the Tmax couldn't get along with it, didn't feel agile like the Forza , love the colour but I've also seen the Matt black , it would be hard to choose, specially as my current Forza is Orange 555
Hey, love your reviews! I have been considering the CFMOTO 700 cl-x sport and although I have read/watched a lot of reviews I would love to hear your take on it. Keep doing what you're doing! Thanks for all the great content!
Great review Mr Fish! I've got a 1200GS, (no boxes don't like them) but bought a Forza 300 for nipping to Sainburies and running errands. Storage (top box and under-seat) is very useful. The 300 is quite nippy but annoyingly my biker genes are hankering for more. This 750 would have been great if it didn't have a chain, which is a pain to maintain in Scottish winters with no garage. Think a used TMax will be on the horizon when my bank balance looks better. That denim blue colour is gorgeous. Think Yamaha have that on Tracers? Cheers!
@@wolfpackpete6408 You're right Pete. Very rare in Scotland, god knows why? i"m still undecided what to get next - heart says TMax, wallet says Burgman 400.
@@GJS-live I know what you mean! You can consider the Forza 350 (330cc) too. I have the Forza 300 (279cc) and it is quite good. I think the seat is a little higher than the Burgman which is probably the main difference. The Burgman looks too me a bit like a 400cc Cruiser type scooter, while the Forza is a bit more sporty and about 40 kilos lighter. I also think the Forza has a higher mpg return, while having roughly the same bhp. I haven't compared the torque figures which the Burgman really should win. But the Forza is cheaper and well worth a look. But if money was no problem, I'd get the T-Max too.
@@wolfpackpete6408 Thanks for the reply. Yeh, the Forza 350 makes the most sense. I've got a GS for longer trips, but for some reason, the TMax and this Forza 750 really appeal. Probably the extra comfort, wind protection, and oomph. Interesting the Burg is much heavier than F350. But anyway, I'm in Aberdeen, nearest Yam and Suzuki dealers are 120 miles away, Honda dealer 1 mile away, so it'll likely be a Forza! Cheers.
P/X my integra just before Xmas, got the Forza 300, Integra great bike, the DCT is fabulous, this Forza 750 looks direct replacement, looks better than Integra, the only downside for me, chain maintenance and the heavy weight. Like the Forza 300 a lot. nice and nimble.
I had a 650 Suzuki Burgman for a few years . That had 50 ltrs of storage under the seat. A proper tourer . It had a specially shaped bag to fit . 2 weeks luggage for me .
Where did you find a specially shaped bag? I just bought a Burgman 650 (2017 with 14 miles on it!). Thanks for your help.
I got it from an American website it may have been Clearvioew screens but I can't be sure
Thanks for this amazing review and it was one of the big factors of me purchasing this bike and I picked it up yesterday. You really helped me make my decision and I’m so impressed with the bike
49 year old bloke here, never a biker and no CBT and was only interested in watching vids of PCX or Super Cub with an idea for town commuting. Never thought about 'scooters' on B-roads. So thanks mate, you've brought on my mid-life crisis. Top review.
Never too old, got into bikes through scooters and got my licence at age 60!
I started on a 125 aged 46, 2 years later full licence. My only regret in life, is I should started sooner, so much fun!
Done my cbt at 50 just to get to work never though I would fall in love with two wheels and doing second cbt next week and hopefully on to big boys bike but probably going to stay with scooters 300 400 plenty for me more importantly stay safe. People. 🛵
The key is for opening the seat of your battery goes flat so you can access the battery compartment under the seat.. same as my X-ADV, under the rear mud guard
Dave beat you to it lol
I can fell your joy and enthusiasm, great review, I drove several Gold Wings, but this will be my next
Werner
Yes, Small tourer, somewhere between a Silverwing and the very rare PC800. Mine arrives next week!
The Integra was an astounding scooter - i upgraded to VFR1200F DCT but completely get why you would love a 750cc DCT scooter. I would recommend everyone has a test drive of Honda's DCT bikes, there are plenty.
The Key. On the tip of the arch of the rear wheel remove the key cover insert the key twist then it will release the seat. This is to be used if you have a flat battery.
The UK just only have Two colours Black and Blue. Europe have Four Colours Back, Blue, Red, and Cream.
Blue is a wonderful choice. That's the one I have. On the left handle bar control button FN is for the Heated Grips. They say that the fuel comsuption will be at its best 78 mpg and with a 13.1 ltr tank. In two weeks all I've done is 10 miles. I'm not working at the moment. Must get out.
My current bike is a Tiger 1200 Alpine Edition but as a past owner of all types of bikes, sports, cruisers etc including a Bergman 650 and a 2015 T-Max 530 Iron, I am a big fan of big scoots so I watched with interest.
Before you got to the “shortcomings” I had already searched the switch blocks for the cruise buttons but alas, none to be found.
So agree totally, fit cruise control, an electric screen and provide an optional quality matching top case of around 45L capacity and Bob’s your uncle!
Excellent video. Ive had both forza 300 old and new style were great and had a gilera gp 800.
And got a aprilia srv 850. What I absolutely love it is brilliant love the big scooters
The first three minutes reminded me of the time another Honda dealer lent me an X-ADV while the Wing was being serviced. Chuckled all the way home from West London to the East. Taking it back round the M25 in the morning, not so much, but it did it perfectly comfortably.
5ft6" here, Forza 750 no issue. Sat on one today with a view to replacing my ADV 350 in 6 months.
As soon as I hired ADV 750 in Madeira Portugal for five days I wanted to buy it. But I wanted style so went for the Forza 750. Traded in my BMW R1200RT. What I like about the manual mode is that you’ve changed down then want auto you’ve slowed down auto will change so it won’t labour the engine. Your also able to customise the screen. Lower part of the screen two items Mr Fish didn’t mention or show. Your able to display Engine Water Temperature also motorcycle charging state. Also ordered the central locking top box. I absolutely Love it. Updated August 2022 Just come from France Spain Gibraltar then traveling to Madrid then North to Santander then the Ferry to Portsmouth. Its a fantastic Weather was in the middle 35c. I would get another DCT gearbox never faulted.
If you want an NC750X buffed up with a TFT, large windscreen, comfortable seat, twin front disks, upside down forks and loads of room for your feet this is the bike for you. You lose .9L fuel capacity. I would love to try it out. I didn’t personally get on with the X-ADV and I preferred the riding position on the NC750X and that it was 2.5K cheaper than the X-ADV.
LOVE IT! SUPERB VLOG, lovely looking bike I have a Yamaha TMAX 560 Tech, it has heated grips, electric screen, centre stand lock,and cruise control, I wish the Honda had those extras.. I would be really willing to get one if it did, as I would now certainly miss those items.... I love the sound of the Honda👏🏽
Thanks once again for a brilliant vlog/video👍🏽😁💚
The up & down on the left handle bar. Press the function FN button to get the Heated grips strength
It would be very good for short trips even in winter with a large Givi top box like I have on my CB500F. Good wind and weather protection. Heated seat, grips. I’m 5’8 so the screen would be perfect.
Very good for trips long or short
I love it. Been a sports bike and adventure bike rider for 40 years, as I age I must think about how to keep riding into my 60s and 70s. This would suit me very well, I think.
P.s key to open the seat what hidden round the back , some were if the battery goes flat , same on the XADV, they also can make the same key to fit your back box also
Cheers bud , the new xadv has one too
I'm on to my 3rd 125 forza since they came out, I love my scooter ,only use it for work its great commuter bike. will have to work my way up to the 750cc. gerat review cheers ...Ride Safe
The key is in case you lose the fob or it’s battery dies, you’ll find a key slot under the back of the bike above the wheel (probably covered with a rubber lid) it should open the seat and there’s a device in the tool kit that you plug into something near the battery then you input a code using the starter button, push once for no.1 and so on with a short gap between each number like morse code. Well it was for my X-ADV anyway
The key could be to start if the keyless batteries fail when you’re out. Think the XADV has a start underneath somewhere for that.
It is , cheers
Good to here you back ro your happy self.for a scooter it sounds really nice.
I have had a Silverwing 600 for five years and am looking at the NC750x as we do not get the Forza or Xadv 750 in Canada.
Not available in the USA. Not a problem. It would need a trailer over here for trips of any length.
When you use the mode for 'like User', you want no Traction Control...hold the switch down till at no T/C showin'...etc on them all' (*note...used for peelin'-out & liftin' 'em front tire, also!
Well done John for the first and probably best UK review. A slight improvement on the Silverwing then!
Thanks , a bit better lol
Great review. For me it’s between this or the X-ADV. Your Gold Wing comment is much the same as a German review some while ago. No small coincidence and speaks volumes. My only issues are the screen and very small storage and whether the NC750 even with it’s lesser spec makes it better buy. Head says NC heart says X-ADV.
get a test drive if possible - the only true way to decide :)
When I tried the X-ADV in 2018 it didn’t have enough extra for the 2.5k price hike. I think the 21 Forza maybe. However I don’t have to get off the bike to use the NC750X frunk and my heated jacket and usb cables run from the frunk.
Nice review again sir.
For me I think they’ve missed a trick by not having an electrically adjustable screen but apart from that it looks a corker.
Steve
Loved the review.....
Can't wait for the xadv.......well done Mr fish...
I’ve had two Honda “scooters” in the past and now riding a Burgman400. I thought I was happy. This Honda 750 looks pretty amazing. I only wish the makers of these maxi bikes would design them with a false “gas tank” storage compartment. That would give the rider something to squeeze the knees against if you live in an area prone to strong winds.. plus you get extra storage. If they had this and the high CC’s they would be more perfect bikes. Well done Honda on this one.. I just hope quality control is back. My past three Honda’s (including a Rebel 500) were all bought back as certified lemons. My Burgie always gets me home, love him.
Aren’t you describing an nc750? Or do you want more of a cruiser position?
@@grayl2Had to think, this was posted a while ago. I like upright position, as it’s more agile in traffic, so at the time I liked the NC750.
Great review and looks a great bike. As a former X-ADV owner I'm a big fan of this engine and DCT combination and I think this looks better and has slightly more practicality than the X-ADV. Disappointed about the lack of adjustability on the screen, the X-ADV has manually adjustable screen (albeit a rather clumsy awkward one) and more significantly, my son's 2020 Forza 125 has a slick electronically adjustable screen, so not sure what Honda were thinking here.
makes no sense to me either
I hear that the Forza 125 is the same dimensions as the 300/350.
The other options for learner legal scooters are physically small things. Larger people are ok on them for a brief time, but they'll get fed up of making themselves small. If spending any length of time on a bike/scooter... it should be a "me sized" bike. There are plenty of big 17year olds who will prefer the extra comfort from the Forza, and the electric screen is probably a happy accident for the 125 - a carry over from the 300.
I am getting a brand new Honda Forza 125cc this Wednesday. Wow! This Forza 750cc sounds fantastic! Meaty!
I have the honda forza 125cc really good bike does 80 mph
I don't think that moving the mirrors would be ugly. Put some sort of plug or grommet in there to make sure it looks neat. I would put them up on the handlebars
Perfect for someone who's had a crash and can't bend the right leg very well, but for £10k it's missing the cruise control and maintenance free belt drive or shaft, I'd have that rather than sports bike spec front end. Great video Mr. Fish, lovely to see you back showing us bikes.
The original chain on the NC750X was rubbish but my X-ring chain hasn’t needed adjusting in 12k miles by me, (I forgot to ask if it was adjusted on my annual service last week) - just spray a bit of lube on it occasionally.
I know, I had an NC, I thought I rode it too hard but that chain was really rubbish; however, O, X AA ring or any other type, chain cleaning and lubing remains my least favourite jobs on a bike and is especially dificult when you're half handicaped
Shaft would make it heavy and handle worse , not fussed between belt and chain to be honest
It is sooo good to have you back in the saddle. Great review, scooters are blurring the lines with bikes more each year. Hopefully Honda will add the options you mentioned - perfection.😀😀😉
thanks
Could you please test
A Forza 350cc.
Kind Regards.
I recognize that route. Do it often down the back of Box HIll from Headley towards Mickleham. Great route.
Looks like a great bike, I like the colour and bet its an incredibly practical bike to own. Would make a great all rounder that would be easy to tour on too - just needs a top box.
Brilliant review, been waiting for this since the announcement
Thanks
Hi mr fish absolutely good to see you back test riding lovely bike the forza but the bike like the X-ADV does not have cruise control would have thought Honda's engineers would put one on their so touring would be made a lot less stressful but there you go good to see you back vlogin 👌👌👍👍🤗😁
Right on! Needs Cruise control... the Rebel has it... they dropped the ball!
Great, thanks for that and your valued comments Mr Fish. Been waiting for a decent review on the Honda Forza 750 and delighted yours was the first I saw.. Had a Honda 750X DCT and sold it last year for a Honda Forza 300, now i can get a best of both worlds lol.
I did exactly the same, 750X DCT was was ace but uncomfortable, Forza 300 is super comfy but lacks the thrust.
Your the man John lol
@@tonymann8215 How is the 750X DCT uncomfortable? I was sitting on it in the showroom, and I noticed I had to lean forward and rest my upper body on the handlebars. Is this what you mean? I am worried this will be tiring as I am used to a Piaggio X10 350 where you sit pretty much upright.
@@iShriek My NC 750 was a 2017 and the seat was hard and had a slope downwards to the front, something that lots of people on the NC facebook group complained about and found various ways of sorting it out. Honda may have improved it amongst their changes for the 2021 model. Companies like Shad do comfort seats for them though so it’s not a deal breaker if you like the bike.
@@tonymann8215 OK, thanks for your insights. Appreciate it.
Deal-breakers: Chain drive (Requires lube and re-tension every week or 500km); No cruise control; No electric screen.
Hope you get to test the NC750X. No Forza for the states. From what I can see from the Honda website, no cruise control for the NC750X either.
I will try
Great review, with great enthusiasm
All the best.
235Kg a bit heavy, no electric screen, storage under seat small, no cruise control, no heated grips, chain maintenance, high price for what you get. In France, you get 5 years warranty.
@Giordano Bruno Looks like they have the same problem in the Moto GP this year.
And they left off the rear fender!!!
Exactly my thoughts as well. I'm a Honda Forza 300cc scooter rider and I won't be buying this for the reasons you stated.
@@johnmatthews3990 Honda must get feedback from their agents, for such a small cost they could compete with the Tmax.
Yes. Absolutely needs heating and cruise control for that money. Also, for 10k the keyless top box and/or panniers should be included. That, I would legitimately spend £10,000 on. As it is, it just doesn't seem worth it.
I tend to think of this as the scooter version of the NC750x, but this is actually more upscale. The NC doesn’t have dual disks , and it doesn’t have inverted forks. This has both.
I bought one of these, but with all the luggage and heated grips. Mostly I agree with your review. I bought this after owning a DCT NC750X for two years. Couple of points. Once you adjust the mirrors that's it done. I'm only 5' 10" and can adjust no problem. I think the mirror mounting points on the brake reservoirs gives options for 3rd parties to make accessories to mount in these spaces. With the bike being throttle by wire, I cant understand why Honda did not give the bike cruise control. It would have been so easy to do.
I'm interested in the new Forza 750, and after watching a few videos, I may be wrong, but I think it sounds quite noisy. I would be interested to know if you find it louder than the NC750X or about the same, and also can I ask you if you like the sound of the Forza? Thank you.
@@rkbeswick It is quieter. Both bikes are about the same though on hard acceleration.
@@kennyg4744 Thank you, I'm even more interested now!
@@rkbeswick Cool. Although I stay near Glasgow, Paul at Doble Motorcycles did me a great deal on my trade-in and delivered the bike to my door. 2nd bike bought from Doble's, never set foot in the showroom, never met any of the staff. Highly recommend.
once you get them n position they are fine
Great little review, if you get chance can you review the FORZA350 when it comes out 👍🏻
Great review nice to see /hear you in your glory again
Now imagine that with the 1100 AT engine with a shaft drive that space under the seat taken up with a fuel tank, a frunk as on the NC, cruise control, electric mirrors and screen.
Looks a lovely ride ! Nice vid mr fish !
Great review and that’s a great looking scoobike, should have cruise and a power screen I took one out for a test ride couple weeks ago loved it can’t afford though 😢
Good review, can you point the camera a smidge lower next time so we see a bit more of the bike/ dash.
Great review, good to see you in full form again. This will be high on the list in post Sh300i land 😁
Yay! Mr fish approved!!👍👍🍬🍰🍭 A motorcycle at its purest fun!
awesome revue. lovely scoot, i'd love one. just need the deep pockets full of cash first.
Did Honda drop the VFR1200 manual and DCT versions because they couldn't get them to pass subsequent emission laws ?
Excellent review, nice to see you back on the road with your banter! If you are doing the XADV, could you show it with a top box and a passenger sitting on it when you are parked, just to see how it looks as a possible mini tourer?
Ive just done the X-ADV sorry no luggage or pillion
I'd like to see you do a review of the Kymco AK550. I've had the Burger 650, the Swing, Kymco 400i, but I'm between this Forza and the AK. Chain, small storage, small display, and non adjustable screen for the Forza is making me favor the AK550. But I'm still comparing before making the purchase. Edit: I just noticed that the front fender doesn't come down far enough to protect the radiator :(
I have bought one after a long time waiting I can fully agree with u a little more poke it could definitely handle cruise control and the elektric windshield ..
By the way thanks for the awesome review 🙂🍻 cheers
Good review. I wish they had put the rear turn signals in the body work like they did the front. That looks sharp. I'm 6'4" and 19 stone. I really appreciate you talking about that. A few shots of you riding by on a roundabout would be easy to get, and very helpful.
Thanks for a great review on what looks to be a pretty neat bike.
It’s a lovely bike. I traded in my BMWR1200RT. It’s a shame no adjustable windshield.
Thank you! Just completed my A licence in Austria and as an "Older Rider" wasn't sure what bike would be good for my Wife and I to "cruise" up to Salzburg (70 miles)to visit our Grandson. I'm ordering the Forza 750!!
No "mini Goldwing" status until it gets cruise control. Don't get sucked in only to have Honda add that next year.
Loved your review and was searching your channel for the same review on the Yamaha tmax 560 2020 or 2021. Would love to see that 😃
hi mr fish. im from usa , California . i enjoy your videos and tour's. could you please record a video with you stopping at a deli,ordering and eating ,paying and through the process? im curious to see the local shops. thanks.
Nice review,as usual,mr fish.
I have a prosthetic left leg. How well does it balance sitting still? Does it feel heavy with a slight lean sitting still? I'm 71 and have been riding since 1964 and miss riding since my amputation. I did ride a Suzuki Bergman scooter for a couple of years but found out that it doesn't balance very well sitting at a stoplight, it just felt heavy. It was great riding but to its scooter nature it did not have much rear suspension travel, so you had to really try to dodge all pot holes.
What a superb review- when can we expect 750Forza to land in the US
Thanks , but you’d have to ask Honda USA that question
Easiest way to get bikes that Honda won’t import is to have relatives in Canada. Have them buy it and register it then ride it to the US and have them sell it to you. Pisses off the dmv but there isn’t fuck all they can do at that point. Biggest problem is you need a Speedo that reads mph as well as but that can be made fairly easily out of the existing dial
This bike is nice for an older rider who is a Honda bike lover. Someone who had GW for years and it is time to scale down.
Or someone like me who likes scooters but wants to go fast haha. Sadly I'm an American
An older guy in my riding group just sold his GW after many years of ownership and got the same scooter. For an 82 years of young man, its a great tool. Happy riding.
@@alp3781 happy riding to you brother stay safe
Interesting vid. Having recently bought a Tmax 530 in order to see what all this scooter thing is all about. What you say about the Forza 750 is very similar to my impressions of my Tmax 530. It's called a scooter but imho, it is more like a small Yamaha FJR. In short, I love my Tmax. I would undoubtedly love the Forza 750. I'm sticking with Yamaha.
Thanks a lot for this very informative review. I also like the cbr650r review you did and believe it or not...like 'm both and don't know which to choose. I know it's apples and pears....will have to think again....thanks again!
What I fail to understand is if this is effectively an NC750x, which itself was originally based on a scooter design, and I thought the fuel tank was repositioned under seat allowing for the frunk to occupy the space the tank took but this bike seems to have fuel and lid storage under the seat but still seems to have plenty of space for a frunk.
I wonder how hard it is to do what should be simple maintainance jobs such as plugs, air filter, oil change etc.
I think he liked it? Good review but he didn’t take it up to motorway speeds. What’s it like at 70+mph? As a 74-year-old NC750DCT rider, I might get one when I’m 80.
Great to see u enjoy yourself back doing things u love.. Or at least some of them. How's the Africa twin BTW?? Still sick bay? Would love to see that back on the road
Twin is back on the road ...
@@Mrfish2015 Fab stuff... Can't wait to see a vid.... I'm still waiting for mine. No idea when it might arrive 😔 summer probably
i am still awaiting a really mini goldwing because of my height and weight but I dont think forza 750 is it. my honda silverwing nearly comes close
Do you think it is genuinely something you could do lots of motorway miles on? You mention how, at your height, the buffeting affects only the top part of your lid; how about other areas like shoulders, hips etc?
As I said in the vid the airflow is good with no buffering
@@Mrfish2015 I’ll get a test ride done, come April 12th. All over it, if it can munch motorways - albeit for only about an hour at a time. Love the GW comparison, not least since I was contemplating one of those.
thanks. do you think a 6'7 person would be comfortable?
The main thing that makes this "not a scooter" in my opinion - is the chain and sprocket final drive. Scooters are for lowest maintenance possible people, like myself.
Not to include a Cruise Controll on this "scooter" is simply a DUMB decision - no other way to put it otherwise. The system is already "Ride By Wire" - so what stopped them ?🤔
Where can I get one in the USA? Jeff
The integra had ZERO under seat storage...they should have brought this model out years ago. Just maybe get rid of some of the plastic around the handle bar and make it more like the X ADV naked design. And drop the price pls hehe. Oh and I think the dual front discs are a bit overkill...wont hurt to loose a few KG's by going one disc.
Problem a stupid question. Does this play music like the gold wing
Not though speakers but if you have android and a headset you can use the screen
Nice 1st impressions Mr Fish :-) So...If you could only have this or the African Twin...What's your choice ??....Looking forward to your thoughts on the XADV against this one :-)
Twin of course lol ...
Even if you’re adjusting the mirrors stopped you should be able to do it from your normal riding position, you have to lean back and forward until you get the angle right on this, it’s awkward
I've got a 300 Forza. I was going to test ride the new 350 but I might test this , if they have it.
The stock pictures Honda have don't do it justice.
It looks awesome and as others have said the 300 lacks a little power, although you can probably say that about any scooter except maybe this one? Lol
I tried the Tmax couldn't get along with it, didn't feel agile like the Forza , love the colour but I've also seen the Matt black , it would be hard to choose, specially as my current Forza is Orange 555
What about a luggage package for touring?
I have a 300 cc forza and I find it tiring to ride it for any distance. I would like to go for a bigger one for longer trips, Honda or Bergman?
I like it Fish lad. It looks good and totally functional 👍
Hey, love your reviews! I have been considering the CFMOTO 700 cl-x sport and although I have read/watched a lot of reviews I would love to hear your take on it. Keep doing what you're doing! Thanks for all the great content!
when are they coming to Canada
Doesn't the NC750X DCT, also with a 22L compartment and a lager fuel tank, make this a bit pointless?
Great review Mr Fish! I've got a 1200GS, (no boxes don't like them) but bought a Forza 300 for nipping to Sainburies and running errands. Storage (top box and under-seat) is very useful. The 300 is quite nippy but annoyingly my biker genes are hankering for more. This 750 would have been great if it didn't have a chain, which is a pain to maintain in Scottish winters with no garage. Think a used TMax will be on the horizon when my bank balance looks better. That denim blue colour is gorgeous. Think Yamaha have that on Tracers? Cheers!
I Hear good thing about the Tmax
Awesome, a fellow Scottish Maxi Scooter rider. I don't see many maxi scooters at all.
@@wolfpackpete6408 You're right Pete. Very rare in Scotland, god knows why? i"m still undecided what to get next - heart says TMax, wallet says Burgman 400.
@@GJS-live I know what you mean!
You can consider the Forza 350 (330cc) too.
I have the Forza 300 (279cc) and it is quite good. I think the seat is a little higher than the Burgman which is probably the main difference. The Burgman looks too me a bit like a 400cc Cruiser type scooter, while the Forza is a bit more sporty and about 40 kilos lighter. I also think the Forza has a higher mpg return, while having roughly the same bhp. I haven't compared the torque figures which the Burgman really should win. But the Forza is cheaper and well worth a look.
But if money was no problem, I'd get the T-Max too.
@@wolfpackpete6408 Thanks for the reply. Yeh, the Forza 350 makes the most sense. I've got a GS for longer trips, but for some reason, the TMax and this Forza 750 really appeal. Probably the extra comfort, wind protection, and oomph. Interesting the Burg is much heavier than F350. But anyway, I'm in Aberdeen, nearest Yam and Suzuki dealers are 120 miles away, Honda dealer 1 mile away, so it'll likely be a Forza! Cheers.
Good review Mr Fish.
did you find out how to cancel the traction control?
Reminds me of a VFR from the front. Hope you get to test the 350.
Did the price get mentioned?
P/X my integra just before Xmas, got the Forza 300, Integra great bike, the DCT is fabulous, this Forza 750 looks direct replacement, looks better than Integra, the only downside for me, chain maintenance and the heavy weight. Like the Forza 300 a lot. nice and nimble.