Well done Sir! My Flight instructor gave me the advise: "Perform every 2nd time a spot landing, to get a feeling how it feels to do a landing without power and to calculate the glide to the threshold. An altitude reserve is always recommended and better than less. At final you can slip to reduce to much altitude reserve. Try it regularly and be prepared in the case of the case!"
Being able to choose where and when makes it a lot easier! I did the same experiment in a Piper Saratoga over 30 years ago. cut power over Purdue at 15,500 ft, with a stiff tailwind, and pulled the prop control all the way back. Glided the 44 miles to Kokomo and had to circle down to land. Being a rental, all that gliding time was free!
Guys, can we just agree that no matter what a guy enjoys flying. Practice and training are what makes us safer and better. Geez, always with the ego’s.
I don't think ego is a factor. It's that practicing a crash landing is absurd. You wouldn't go out and practice crashing your car into a tree. If you need to do something like this, you probsbly shouldn't be using that vehicle or form of transportation.
I never do a standard landing pattern when practicing engine out operation. You fly directly towards the landing spot with the hope of having ample altitude when you arrive. Then you circle to land. This is a bold maneuver . And In the words of John and Martha king. There are old pilots and Bold pilots but no old bold pilots.
I can agree with you that this is pretty dangerous if done improperly. However, it looks like this guy has been practicing this exact maneuver, with this exact bird, at the same field for a while. I'm sure he started off easy and worked his way slowly into a more complex pattern. He absolutely nailed this, so something tells me he's pretty much become one with the plane and that he's fully aware and hyper-alert to what the plane is doing and how it's reacting. Sure this is on the edge, but when it counts he won't be caught unprepared in the worst situations. Most pilots that never practiced with risk don't know how to really feel the airplane, they just read their gauges and do what the book says. And don't get me wrong, the books are great. I'm just saying that practice and personal experience is infinitely more useful than something that you were taught.
Why practice a way that you won't do it in the real world ? Exactly, get to the chosen spot and circle to land. This insures you make your chosen landing location.
Very nice demo! used to practice those also, but I never really liked to do it (because my airport by the ocean had crosswinds a good part of the time)! But it's good to know you can glide down and land safely!
When my friend and me used to go up and fly we used to practice this manure. You were always looking for a place to land in case something would happen. Another pilots not paying attention. We almost got killed one day a guy in a twin doing a barrel roll coming down from 10,000 ft right in front of us almost killed us. But we both yelled at the same time May the maneuver.
Nice job! Personally I prefer to go a little higher in my club's glider and use spoilers (or you can use a slip) to make small adjustments but the important thing here is that the approach was well stabilized and the airspeed was kept just right. Stretching a glide has killed a lot of pilots, but with holding on a good aim point that was not an issue. Very professionally done.
High elevatnion level, 500 feets as I can see on cockpit ? What is this plane model please ? .... Very well done gliding I do similar but engine on with low (neutral) revs.
Gliders have a glide factor of 40:1 or even more while this plane has something below 10:1. This means that, without thrust, you are going to hit the ground at least four times harder with this. It's absolutely not comparable.
40:1, I wish! Yes there are hot a/c out there at +40:1 but never got a chance to fly them. Worst glider I flew for L/D was 25:1. It was an old, wood and fabric, flying armchair. Any ways I digress. No matter what you fly, A380 or ASH20, it’s all about managing potential energy (height) and kinetic energy (air speed). The more you practice, the better the outcome.
Good work. I constantly take tourists for joy flights and most are from india. Can I make a tip? If you ever have an lndiαи passenger and you have an engine failure always kick open the door and force them to jump or push them out. The amount of weight you will save will make all the difference.
I had a 85hp J3 I did this with dozens of times. So pick your spot. Watch the spot move in your window. When it moves up turn. When it goes down extend your leg. Works every time. I had 13 forced landing in 17000 hrs and never had damage once. Most were in a 1340 Agcat.
I was taught to do dead stick landings from the start. Taildraggger - Citabria- over wine country. Anytime I was to too low, too far to glide to the runway my CFI cut my power, 'what are you going to do now?'. I learned to cut power on downwind and mostly glide in, no flaps on that plane, slip to increase drag, descend w/out gaining speed, slow forward speed. Just slight input of power if needed. Always told, "never give up the runway". If you do not know what your aircraft can do with no power, you are not a complete pilot. I soloed August 1 in gliders & August 18 in single engine, doing training in both simultaneously. And yet, I'm still a 98% dead stick landing pilot. We think I may have hit 99% once, we're checking the black box flight data recorders on the Citabria.
Been many years since pilot-in-command, but I always liked to come in for a landing as high as possible, & side-slip down to the runway...obviously have to watch for lower aircraft. I would have felt very foolish to do a 400' final, have engine out, crash short of runway.
Yep, cut power on downwind.I made this a habit too! A very good practice. An engine failure happened to me on floats over the only lake around. It was a very small lake with no room for error. Because of all the previous power off landings, it was uneventful.
Pretty easy on a field u know well. Very different in a real emergency. short field, sloping, big trees both ends, fences and power lines u can't see or a road with unknown traffic. But failure on takeoff is far worse.
Nice job. What model plane are you flying? BTW, if you really want to experience a deadstick landing, cut the power in an unfamiliar airspace. Not suggesting you do that. I certainly would not. You literally have to find your landing spot the moment the engine stops. As the altitude runs out I wouldn't want to have to be looking around at 1000ft for a place to land. The ground is coming up too fast.
Good job but keep in mind practicing like this will super cool the engine and you will more likely be replacing cylinders more frequently. But then again, its your purse, not mine.
@@MJLeger-yj1ww not really it depends on airflow and what the engine was doing before shot down. What MJ says is a factor with piston skydiving aircraft, where they work hard to altitude and then have to descend quickly. The pilots have to manage engine temp .
Were you at "best glide"? Seemed like you dropped pretty quickly altho you obviously hit your mark perfectly. In a real power failure, you would be trimmed up for best glide. I would also keep a little extra energy in my pocket to jump over any wires or fences I would see at the last second! Great job.
I've never understood why people call it a 'dead stick' landing. The stick and flight controls still work perfectly well - it's the engine that's dead.
As a CFI wannabe I would give you generally high marks but would have expected you to jettison the coppered spindle on the rotary gangle-plate which would have helped you with side shimmy, yaw and metal fatigue. But good work!
I think we have a former glider pilot. Good work. I'm one myself and I can imagine how much more diffocult ot would be to land a rock. In particalular one with the wires all cut off.
I got asked during tailwheel endorsement if I had some time in them I didn’t record. Nope, all gliders. He did an engine out on downwind and I cut base short at the numbers. The Schweitzer 2-33 we flew were forgiving but bricks!
Sail plane pilots have been doing this for 100 years...no option for a go-around...powered flight guy does it and he's reckless, hmm? Good energy management is a crucial skill to understand and master, that includes with prop continuing to turn or with the prop stopped (different drag qualities). The one comment that piqued my interest is the shock cooling of the engine during engine OFF descent, we have all been warned about maintain some power to avoid it, wonder what the real life penalty is in this repeated configuration? Good job, nice air work, hope you never have to use that skill, but think the outcome would be positive if you did.
Chris Kibb Exactly, hmmm? Powered aircraft are heavier, don't glide as well, and carry much more energy coming in. Two totally different things... sail plane pilots have not been "doing this" - killing the engine on powered aircraft for 100 years. They've been flying sail planes.
Oh Jesus Christ...here we go, Chris Kibb to save us all from ourselves. There is a difference between highlighting the need to understand energy management and the difference in drag between a stopped and rotating prop...and promoting this video technique as training. I made NO, ZERO recommendation about using this as a method of training...everything beyond that is inference on your part. If this guy want to shutdown his engine and dead stick his ACFT, it's HIS prerogative (as long as no other life or property is placed at risk)...apparently you object to that? So with that said, show me your stats on the number of intentionally shutdown engines, where ACFT were deliberately set down in an "unprepared field"...I'd like to be able to quantify the amount of damage you cite. Guys like you crack me up, you see something like this and your thong rides up and you get all self-righteous, quick to correct the aviation wrongs in the world.
So you fancy yourself as a CFI? You first...give me the "unprepared field" stats on damage incurred by powered ACFT intentionally performing dead stick landings, I mean YOU made the claim it was reckless and resulted in untold damage? I guess all those back country cowboys are wrong too...I mean, backside of the power curve...hanging it on the prop...reckless I tell you!!!!...apparently performing a power off/engine shutdown (without endangering other persons or property) landing has your panties in a bunch?
Still don't get it do you? With your train of thinking (Thomas the Tank engine) upset recovery training and unusual attitude recovery should be banded as reckless also? I mean just because they give you a parachute doesn't make is safe...I'm not a licensed skydiver, sounds reckless to me? Produce your "mountains of data" SPECIFICALLY on the scenario witnessed in the subject video then get back to me...or go get your CFI and learn a little yourself.
Take about 40 hours in gliders and it will teach you to be looking for a spot to land at all times , I did about 80 hours ,excellent for private pilots , big eye opener ,
It was obvious he was almost in key position (on downwind with a slight turn to base), and even crossed the threshold (if one exists on a grass runway) a little high and fast-- he knows the strip and the airplane. Not a good idea to kill a good engine though... its enough to practice this maneuver at idle.
There is plenty of time, heigth, space to shoot a Forced Landing OFF and walk away HERE !!. All good practice. There are two people in the air. "Those that have sufferd an engine failure and those that are about. retired CPL.
Sure would be nice to have 4K feet when the engine quits. Depending on the brick you are flying, 4K will get you about 5 miles. In the real world, it never happens like that, at least not for me. Try it at 1700 and 1000 feet going away from the airport. 300 feet on takeoff was the most exciting but that was only a partial power failure. If you want some serious dead stick landing practice, pull the engine to idle opposite your touch down point on downwind. If you are at a small rural airport and there's no traffic you should have no issues doing this. When you can land consistently without adding power, you will have learned.
A dead stick landing is a forced landing when an aircraft has lost ALL of its propulsive power. To say 100% dead stick landing is redundant. That said wow 100% nice landing. I was wondering where you were going for.. for a while I thought you were gonna go the road. I guess you could see your landing spot before the camera could when you did that wide left bank. Good job!
Intentionally turning off a perfectly good operating engine in a single-engine airplane (read: not glider, nor motor-glider) isn’t exactly the brightest idea. I can see why this person is doing it, and they handle it well, but there are an awful lot of eggs in one basket here.
@@dustyrideretc You do have a good point :) On the other hand, I have a rough time with this sorta thing in my PC flight simulator, never mind the real deal.
Good work I used to practice idle glide approach and it came in handy when I lost power at 200’ on climb slow and heavy in my C150. Lived to fly another day, Keep the skills fresh & live
Besides "getting it wrong", other things can go wrong as well. Like, what happens when you suddenly hit a downdraft on short final just as you're crossing over those trees? Probably no time to restart the engine in that case. I practice engine outs probably more often than most pilots, but I always do it with the engine running at idle. Energy management is energy management. In my opinion, there's no reason to shut the engine off completely when idle will produce virtually the same result. That's just my opinion. I will say, however, that this pilot managed energy well.
As a model airplane pilot I have also done plenty of dead stick landings. One thing that is definitely different on a real dead stick landing is that you have a much steeper minimum glide angle / a significantly shorter glide if the engine is completely stopped. So practicing at idle is definitely not the same.
True, the glide angle between shut off and idle would be immensely different with a model airplane, because the wing loading is an order of magnitude different than a full-size airplane, as is the power-to-weight ratio. The glide ratio in a typical single-engine plane is only negligibly different between idle and shut off.
no, sailplane you are flying is design to do such landing, powered airplane is not. just stick a several pounds piece of metal in front of your glider ( and below ), disturb totally ( nearly ) the streamline and try again... you should see the difference. there are many factors, the centre of gravity is much higher in the powered airplane, as it has the engine high and the landing gear pretty long - to protect the propeller for example, so when you hit the ground in " proper angle " you can literally " kiss the ground " with your forehead at some stage after... not recommended. The power off landing in an airplane and glider is only visibly similar. There are similarities indeed, as are differences. Happy flying to you...
Paul Moffat -Ugh apparently glider pilots don't understand physics, contrary to what you might think. Gliders are significantly lighter, slower, no fuel, and have much better glide ratios that powered aircraft. Definitely a little different... But whatever, you're still a hero there champ.
...space shuttles had the same problem. Remember them? No?...well...it's been a while. Fortunately the Russians are still selling Soyuz Seats for the American Star Voyageurs.
@@yarpos would an engine at idle really be that much different than killing it? If he caught an unusually strong headwind on final he left zero room for error and an idle engine just requires a punch of some power and all is well.
Well done Sir! My Flight instructor gave me the advise: "Perform every 2nd time a spot landing, to get a feeling how it feels to do a landing without power and to calculate the glide to the threshold. An altitude reserve is always recommended and better than less. At final you can slip to reduce to much altitude reserve. Try it regularly and be prepared in the case of the case!"
"That's not flying. That's falling with style."
Experienced landing. Bravo. Each training increases the likelihood of success when a real failure occurs and no airport is in sight.
Being able to choose where and when makes it a lot easier! I did the same experiment in a Piper Saratoga over 30 years ago. cut power over Purdue at 15,500 ft, with a stiff tailwind, and pulled the prop control all the way back. Glided the 44 miles to Kokomo and had to circle down to land. Being a rental, all that gliding time was free!
Guys, can we just agree that no matter what a guy enjoys flying. Practice and training are what makes us safer and better. Geez, always with the ego’s.
The sad thing is, most of the critics could not land their aircraft 100% dead stick. I can not, so I sit back and admire a job well done.
@@indridcold8433 There seem to be a lot of narcissists going out of their way to say something -ve to fluff themselves up in their own minds
@@yarpos The simulators they employ are likely nothing more than a personal computer programme. They have likely never even seen an actual simulator.
I don't think ego is a factor. It's that practicing a crash landing is absurd. You wouldn't go out and practice crashing your car into a tree. If you need to do something like this, you probsbly shouldn't be using that vehicle or form of transportation.
@@Gkitchens1 It's more like practicing parking, but if you fail to park you die.
I never do a standard landing pattern when practicing engine out operation. You fly directly towards the landing spot with the hope of having ample altitude when you arrive. Then you circle to land.
This is a bold maneuver . And In the words of John and Martha king. There are old pilots and Bold pilots but no old bold pilots.
I can agree with you that this is pretty dangerous if done improperly.
However, it looks like this guy has been practicing this exact maneuver, with this exact bird, at the same field for a while. I'm sure he started off easy and worked his way slowly into a more complex pattern. He absolutely nailed this, so something tells me he's pretty much become one with the plane and that he's fully aware and hyper-alert to what the plane is doing and how it's reacting. Sure this is on the edge, but when it counts he won't be caught unprepared in the worst situations. Most pilots that never practiced with risk don't know how to really feel the airplane, they just read their gauges and do what the book says.
And don't get me wrong, the books are great. I'm just saying that practice and personal experience is infinitely more useful than something that you were taught.
Why practice a way that you won't do it in the real world ? Exactly, get to the chosen spot and circle to land. This insures you make your chosen landing location.
@@danblumel because doing this makes the standard procedure a breeze.
Way to go m'am, very good to practice these approaches
Very nice demo! used to practice those also, but I never really liked to do it (because my airport by the ocean had crosswinds a good part of the time)! But it's good to know you can glide down and land safely!
As a sailplane pilot, all my landings are "Dead Stick" and there's no go arounds!
When my friend and me used to go up and fly we used to practice this manure. You were always looking for a place to land in case something would happen. Another pilots not paying attention. We almost got killed one day a guy in a twin doing a barrel roll coming down from 10,000 ft right in front of us almost killed us. But we both yelled at the same time May the maneuver.
You saved almost a gallon of gas !
Whole new meaning nowadays
Nice job! Personally I prefer to go a little higher in my club's glider and use spoilers (or you can use a slip) to make small adjustments but the important thing here is that the approach was well stabilized and the airspeed was kept just right. Stretching a glide has killed a lot of pilots, but with holding on a good aim point that was not an issue. Very professionally done.
The thing about engine outs is you dont get to choose when they happen, so practicing at lower altitudes is the right thing to do.
High elevatnion level, 500 feets as I can see on cockpit ? What is this plane model please ? .... Very well done gliding I do similar but engine on with low (neutral) revs.
You had me worried there for a second- until i realised the airstrip was 500' above datum! Good landing.
Glider pilots do exactly that - every flight - albeit with a favorable glide angle.
But he isn't flying a glider, he flying a plane with no trust, there alot of different
Gliders have a glide factor of 40:1 or even more while this plane has something below 10:1. This means that, without thrust, you are going to hit the ground at least four times harder with this. It's absolutely not comparable.
apples and oranges, this person is practicing for the unexpected not repeatedly doing the usual
40:1, I wish! Yes there are hot a/c out there at +40:1 but never got a chance to fly them. Worst glider I flew for L/D was 25:1. It was an old, wood and fabric, flying armchair.
Any ways I digress.
No matter what you fly, A380 or ASH20, it’s all about managing potential energy (height) and kinetic energy (air speed). The more you practice, the better the outcome.
DB Thats-Me how many A380 glide approaches have you done ?😉
I think Mexico Farms has closed now? Very sad if they have!!
Wow, I can only do a 94% partial dead stick landing.
Rob Johnson best comment I’ve read made my day.
I give my stick CPR.
I'm 53 years old. I'm 100% dead stick
I'm 48 and I'm dealing with carb ice. Still runs a little bit but rough.
I'm 53 and I need a few pumps, then I'm good to go.
I'm not a genius but that thing in front the plane supposed to be turning I think
Good work. I constantly take tourists for joy flights and most are from india. Can I make a tip? If you ever have an lndiαи passenger and you have an engine failure always kick open the door and force them to jump or push them out. The amount of weight you will save will make all the difference.
Tidy, I've only done this on idle.
Even an engine on idle is spinning the fan, good finish
A pilot must know how to glide. Well done.
Is it legal to practice this? The safety margin seems very low. It could be with the proper certs, but I am not familiar.
2nd oldest airfield? Where is the oldest airfield, Kitty Hawk NC?
I think the oldest is Pearson field KVUO north of Portland, Oregon.
@@StefBelgium I used to fly out of Pearson. It's the oldest, continuously used, airfield. A fun one too!
@@StefBelgium Oldest is College Park Maryland, Wright Bros.
I like how the engine finally started after he landed safely. Like ..”I got your back bro”
WOW - Thats so Awsome Closet36....Nice landing buddy.....Cool plane....what kind is it....??
Thanks
Steve - Columbus, Ohio USA
Very, very well done! Congrats...Great drill. Thanx.
Are you flying a Mini-Max? That looks a lot like the cockpit of my 1650 Eros!
I had a 85hp J3 I did this with dozens of times. So pick your spot. Watch the spot move in your window. When it moves up turn. When it goes down extend your leg. Works every time. I had 13 forced landing in 17000 hrs and never had damage once. Most were in a 1340 Agcat.
Excelente piloto, le felicito, todo el tiempo estuvo calmando y busco la zona adecuada mil gracias por compartir tan interesante video
What a nice landing...
Congratulations!...
:-)
From Brussels, with Love...
That is technically a crash, not really a landing.
Dudes nail polish was perfect.
I was taught to do dead stick landings from the start. Taildraggger - Citabria- over wine country. Anytime I was to too low, too far to glide to the runway my CFI cut my power, 'what are you going to do now?'. I learned to cut power on downwind and mostly glide in, no flaps on that plane, slip to increase drag, descend w/out gaining speed, slow forward speed. Just slight input of power if needed.
Always told, "never give up the runway". If you do not know what your aircraft can do with no power, you are not a complete pilot. I soloed August 1 in gliders & August 18 in single engine, doing training in both simultaneously. And yet, I'm still a 98% dead stick landing pilot. We think I may have hit 99% once, we're checking the black box flight data recorders on the Citabria.
Been many years since pilot-in-command, but I always liked to come in for a landing as high as possible, & side-slip down to the runway...obviously have to watch for lower aircraft. I would have felt very foolish to do a 400' final, have engine out, crash short of runway.
Yep, cut power on downwind.I made this a habit too! A very good practice. An engine failure happened to me on floats over the only lake around. It was a very small lake with no room for error. Because of all the previous power off landings, it was uneventful.
Pretty easy on a field u know well. Very different in a real emergency. short field, sloping, big trees both ends, fences and power lines u can't see or a road with unknown traffic. But failure on takeoff is far worse.
For a moment I thought he was going for the highway...simple traffic pattern into home field
Nice job. What model plane are you flying? BTW, if you really want to experience a deadstick landing, cut the power in an unfamiliar airspace. Not suggesting you do that. I certainly would not. You literally have to find your landing spot the moment the engine stops. As the altitude runs out I wouldn't want to have to be looking around at 1000ft for a place to land. The ground is coming up too fast.
Is that a fixed-pitch prop that can't be feathered? If so, how come it doesn't rotate in the wind?
Good job but keep in mind practicing like this will super cool the engine and you will more likely be replacing cylinders more frequently. But then again, its your purse, not mine.
Doesn't it depend on the air temp? It's not like he's diving down, he's gliding so as he drops in altitude, the temp will go up.
@@MJLeger-yj1ww not really it depends on airflow and what the engine was doing before shot down. What MJ says is a factor with piston skydiving aircraft, where they work hard to altitude and then have to descend quickly. The pilots have to manage engine temp .
@@yarpos Sound like a rotax water cooled engine so not so critical
That prop looks like a bunch of just sharpened lawnmower blades welded together!
Were you at "best glide"? Seemed like you dropped pretty quickly altho you obviously hit your mark perfectly. In a real power failure, you would be trimmed up for best glide. I would also keep a little extra energy in my pocket to jump over any wires or fences I would see at the last second! Great job.
is it possible to land on carrier ship flying a p40 warhawk dead stick
ask about 500 pilots that done dead stick carrier landings. it was more common than you think
...I wanna fly a sailplane one day, but for now, I just shut the engine off on my puddle hopper...and pretend it's a really crummy glider.
I've never understood why people call it a 'dead stick' landing. The stick and flight controls still work perfectly well - it's the engine that's dead.
I've been thinking the same as I read through the comments. A truly dead stick - ie no response to the controls, would be XXX times more scary.
As a CFI wannabe I would give you generally high marks but would have expected you to jettison the coppered spindle on the rotary gangle-plate which would have helped you with side shimmy, yaw and metal fatigue. But good work!
Is it just me or was it quieter when the engine was running
0:09 This dude got his nails painted to match his whip? not judging. just asking.
That’s also called a power-off 180, except this is an engine-off 180
Are those lawn mower blades?
Excellent training
Well done
I've never flown with the AC off. I'm sure if my AC ever died unexpectedly, I'd start sweating pretty quick.
I think we have a former glider pilot. Good work. I'm one myself and I can imagine how much more diffocult ot would be to land a rock. In particalular one with the wires all cut off.
Excellent
I got asked during tailwheel endorsement if I had some time in them I didn’t record. Nope, all gliders. He did an engine out on downwind and I cut base short at the numbers. The Schweitzer 2-33 we flew were forgiving but bricks!
Stick seemed to be working fine to me.
That's an IVO prop I see? I used to have one as well on my plane.
Sail plane pilots have been doing this for 100 years...no option for a go-around...powered flight guy does it and he's reckless, hmm? Good energy management is a crucial skill to understand and master, that includes with prop continuing to turn or with the prop stopped (different drag qualities). The one comment that piqued my interest is the shock cooling of the engine during engine OFF descent, we have all been warned about maintain some power to avoid it, wonder what the real life penalty is in this repeated configuration? Good job, nice air work, hope you never have to use that skill, but think the outcome would be positive if you did.
That was great.
Chris Kibb Exactly, hmmm? Powered aircraft are heavier, don't glide as well, and carry much more energy coming in. Two totally different things... sail plane pilots have not been "doing this" - killing the engine on powered aircraft for 100 years. They've been flying sail planes.
Oh Jesus Christ...here we go, Chris Kibb to save us all from ourselves. There is a difference between highlighting the need to understand energy management and the difference in drag between a stopped and rotating prop...and promoting this video technique as training. I made NO, ZERO recommendation about using this as a method of training...everything beyond that is inference on your part. If this guy want to shutdown his engine and dead stick his ACFT, it's HIS prerogative (as long as no other life or property is placed at risk)...apparently you object to that?
So with that said, show me your stats on the number of intentionally shutdown engines, where ACFT were deliberately set down in an "unprepared field"...I'd like to be able to quantify the amount of damage you cite. Guys like you crack me up, you see something like this and your thong rides up and you get all self-righteous, quick to correct the aviation wrongs in the world.
So you fancy yourself as a CFI? You first...give me the "unprepared field" stats on damage incurred by powered ACFT intentionally performing dead stick landings, I mean YOU made the claim it was reckless and resulted in untold damage? I guess all those back country cowboys are wrong too...I mean, backside of the power curve...hanging it on the prop...reckless I tell you!!!!...apparently performing a power off/engine shutdown (without endangering other persons or property) landing has your panties in a bunch?
Still don't get it do you? With your train of thinking (Thomas the Tank engine) upset recovery training and unusual attitude recovery should be banded as reckless also? I mean just because they give you a parachute doesn't make is safe...I'm not a licensed skydiver, sounds reckless to me? Produce your "mountains of data" SPECIFICALLY on the scenario witnessed in the subject video then get back to me...or go get your CFI and learn a little yourself.
Yep, did that on my training. A bit scary to see that big propeller still, but no big deal really.
Take about 40 hours in gliders and it will teach you to be looking for a spot to land at all times , I did about 80 hours ,excellent for private pilots , big eye opener ,
It was obvious he was almost in key position (on downwind with a slight turn to base), and even crossed the threshold (if one exists on a grass runway) a little high and fast-- he knows the strip and the airplane. Not a good idea to kill a good engine though... its enough to practice this maneuver at idle.
closet36, it should be taught to all pilot license candidates. Or glider training.
nemo227 It is... Taught to pilots. Why the fuck would an engine out landing be taught to a glider pilot?
Glide ratio, hieghth ,speed distance.10-4
With air conditioning, the gap in the canopy.
There is plenty of time, heigth, space to shoot a Forced Landing OFF and walk away HERE !!. All good practice. There are two people in the air. "Those that have sufferd an engine failure and those that are about. retired CPL.
And later his story started with, "You're not going to believe this Sh*t......"
I dont think 8 would ever go total dead stick...why not idle...just in case.
Almost looks like lawn mower blades on the prop...
It is lawnmower blades. Very common that's why a lot of field crop dusters also get paid as bushhogs
Comes down really quickly probably doesn’t have a very good glide ratio looks like a Rans aircraft also sounds like a rotax engine
cool I'm getting ready to practice this as well in my MiniMax,,, great video
正常なエンジンを訓練として停止させてもすぐに再起動するものです。全く驚くに値しない動画ですね。
that is nice dead stick landing
So basically you've taken up gliding?
Sure would be nice to have 4K feet when the engine quits. Depending on the brick you are flying, 4K will get you about 5 miles. In the real world, it never happens like that, at least not for me. Try it at 1700 and 1000 feet going away from the airport. 300 feet on takeoff was the most exciting but that was only a partial power failure.
If you want some serious dead stick landing practice, pull the engine to idle opposite your touch down point on downwind. If you are at a small rural airport and there's no traffic you should have no issues doing this. When you can land consistently without adding power, you will have learned.
A dead stick landing is a forced landing when an aircraft has lost ALL of its propulsive power. To say 100% dead stick landing is redundant.
That said wow 100% nice landing. I was wondering where you were going for.. for a while I thought you were gonna go the road. I guess you could see your landing spot before the camera could when you did that wide left bank. Good job!
Hope your insurance company didn't see this!
Terry... CFI-I
Gosh I guess insurance companies could never sell glider insurance huh Terry?
You shittin' me, after a smooth ass job like that they should give him reduced rates!
Intentionally turning off a perfectly good operating engine in a single-engine airplane (read: not glider, nor motor-glider) isn’t exactly the brightest idea. I can see why this person is doing it, and they handle it well, but there are an awful lot of eggs in one basket here.
@@dustyrideretc You do have a good point :)
On the other hand, I have a rough time with this sorta thing in my PC flight simulator, never mind the real deal.
Devil's Offspring it’s actually hard on the PC flight simulator. You get less cues from the PC sim.
i always try to fly a fast and tight approach and final for this reason. excellent disperse on short final
Doesnt matter how ready you are... If there's no where to land your in just as much trouble if you didn't practice..
That's a good point - in southern England it's not easy to find a large, clear, mown field.
Quite obviously a bad weather situation for gliding under thermals.
Very good. . You did it just right.
That's just like practicing bleeding! Way to keep your speed up.
Just like a no-spoiler landing in a Schweizer 2-33 ;)
Good work I used to practice idle glide approach and it came in handy when I lost power at 200’ on climb slow and heavy in my C150. Lived to fly another day, Keep the skills fresh & live
landed well?? I had to climb at 200 fpm on mine at 200' on take off. climbed to 300 agl and turned it back to the runway. no damages..
Great pilot.
In a Zenith 601, you have to practice w/o a wing.
Doing something like that on purpose is not my idea of a good time. I would have shit a brick!
...and if you get it wrong in practice, what happens then?
when you realize you don't have the runway made; you quickly restart the engine.Otherwise ... indeed.
Besides "getting it wrong", other things can go wrong as well. Like, what happens when you suddenly hit a downdraft on short final just as you're crossing over those trees? Probably no time to restart the engine in that case.
I practice engine outs probably more often than most pilots, but I always do it with the engine running at idle. Energy management is energy management. In my opinion, there's no reason to shut the engine off completely when idle will produce virtually the same result. That's just my opinion.
I will say, however, that this pilot managed energy well.
turn the engine back on and try again. That's the beauty of doing it with a good engine.
As a model airplane pilot I have also done plenty of dead stick landings. One thing that is definitely different on a real dead stick landing is that you have a much steeper minimum glide angle / a significantly shorter glide if the engine is completely stopped. So practicing at idle is definitely not the same.
True, the glide angle between shut off and idle would be immensely different with a model airplane, because the wing loading is an order of magnitude different than a full-size airplane, as is the power-to-weight ratio. The glide ratio in a typical single-engine plane is only negligibly different between idle and shut off.
You keep shock cooling that engine like that, and you WILL have a real engine failure. No doubt.
It is a water cooled Rotax....not an issue
"How to lose your license" should be the title!
Excellent pilot
About as good as it gets!
saves gas
people died because the engine stopped working and they didn't know what to do... Panic! So it's very good to practice
Great job, mate!!
Good job ...stay prepared !
I fly a sail plane (glider), so every single landing that I make is an 'emergency landing'.
no, sailplane you are flying is design to do such landing, powered airplane is not. just stick a several pounds piece of metal in front of your glider ( and below ), disturb totally ( nearly ) the streamline and try again... you should see the difference. there are many factors, the centre of gravity is much higher in the powered airplane, as it has the engine high and the landing gear pretty long - to protect the propeller for example, so when you hit the ground in " proper angle " you can literally " kiss the ground " with your forehead at some stage after... not recommended. The power off landing in an airplane and glider is only visibly similar. There are similarities indeed, as are differences.
Happy flying to you...
yes, but is a different plane
Paul Moffat -Ugh apparently glider pilots don't understand physics, contrary to what you might think. Gliders are significantly lighter, slower, no fuel, and have much better glide ratios that powered aircraft. Definitely a little different... But whatever, you're still a hero there champ.
...space shuttles had the same problem. Remember them? No?...well...it's been a while. Fortunately the Russians are still selling Soyuz Seats for the American Star Voyageurs.
I do the same thing in my SR-71.
Hello nice video thanks for posting looking to view you next well done
Come on "high", then "slip", to bleed off your air speed. Land on the Numbers.
not bad, not bad, but can you do a blindfold deadstick, hmm?
Wow,, just made those trees, good one.
this is why i like airplanes more than helicopters.
You can actually land a helicopter with an engine failure. I remember RAF test pilots practicing it on a TV show years ago. But its not easy.
Idle power would probably be as good.
Outstanding job!
Well done!
Good luck restarting that super cooled engine if something doesn’t go as planned. Practicing this isn’t good risk management.
super cooled from 4k?
@@yarpos would an engine at idle really be that much different than killing it? If he caught an unusually strong headwind on final he left zero room for error and an idle engine just requires a punch of some power and all is well.