very true... im watching both sports, but i've always preffered snooker mainly because strategy is more important and thats kinda my thing. Its great to see Trump competing in pool as its beneficial for both sports. Snooker fans will watch cause its Trump playing pool and pool fans will watch cause they're just as curious to see how a snooker player does in pool. As long as people dont become toxic and elitist everything is fine
@@floreaciprian9742 finally some respectful comment from a guy who can admire the beauty of both game. i love both pool and snooker and prefer snooker cause just as you said the strategy plays a bigger role there. snooker also requires a great cue ball control tho. and as a guy who loves snooker more than pool, it's good to see a comment like you who didn't bash or hate other sport just because they don't like it haha
Pool to snooker terminology English = side spin Draw = screw Bank = double Scratch = in off Combination / carom= plant Breakout = cannon Stroke = good cueing
Finally, a modern snooker great playing competitive pool Loved watching the old Mosconi Cups with Ronnie, Jimmy White, Steve Davis... Now in HD! Judd's defensive play is excellent (as you would expect) and it's nice to see he has achieved a good break, which people always say will be snooker players' greatest problem.
He does play good defense. The break is hard but a bit sloppy. He would be good if he played more. I actually think the biggest problem the snooker guys have is not knowing how to use heavy spin. You can see it with Trump a couple times here. Some of them also have strokes that aren't powerful enough to compete with the best players. Still fun to watch.
@@johntallanger4036 If he decides to pursue this (doubtful as I imagine he's busy enough and wealthy enough with snooker) I'm sure he will be a serious contender... Still, I wish I was "as bad as" Judd playing pool!
@@marksaus Hard to say. No snooker player has ever become a top pool player. The way he played in this match is about the level of a good local player!
@@Patch801 haha so if making a pool final is being a top player then sure. All kinds of people have made pool finals in short race 9 ball. So if all of them are top players then your definition is correct. There's just no evidence of him or any former snooker player of being able to compete with the top pool players consistently.
@@johntallanger4036 Mark Selby is UK pool champion. He did beat Darren Appleton in the final. And Mark Selby is 4x time snooker world champion and won 16 ranking titles and has over 700 century breaks.
There’s a local player that I look up to, and when I had to play him in leagues I felt how I’d imagine Patel felt this match (Point of pride, I played my first successful lock up safety against him and got ball in hand, he still beat me 9-2)
Those are the matches I always loved in league. Going up against a max 8 ball or high level 9 ball player forged my game to the next level. I always asked my captain play me against the highest guy they have and he did too! Getting those wins and successful safeties on those guys really, REALLY, puts confidence in your game going forward!
Thougth you werre going to say that there was a local player that would beat both of these two. There's quite a few that would meet that criteria in most major cities!
Totally. I was a quite good amateur pool player and came across a failed snooker player - he wasn't quite good enough to make a living from it - and he wiped the floor with me!
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I’ve watched Judd long enough to see when he really wants to win, but you can tell he is out of his element! I’d love to see the 9-ball players play on a snooker table. Tiny pockets, rounded pocket rails, giant table… quite humbling
@@chrisdion6255 Of course it is!!!!! The Americans call screw / backspin, draw, and topspin, follow. English is side spin! I've played snooker and pool for 20 years a good level. Trust me.
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The coverage as a whole is quite annoying.. poor camera work mixed with simply odd commentating. They can’t help but try and guess what judd was gonna do and failed miserably.. ah well Trump into the next round will do. But his opponent here was dreadful, how on earth he was in this tournament I will never know. He was missing shots that were just criminal to miss.
It’s not really the fault of the cameraman. Usually the technical director is in charge of positioning and which frame is being watched. Just like sports, each camera is getting different shots from different positions, and the TD has each frame on. Monitor and switches each frame.
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I think that Judd playing with a pool cue makes sense if the difference in weight and balance 'reminds' him that he's playing pool and not snooker, altering his mindset and shot selection accordingly. Does that make sense?
that's a really good take on it, i thought a snooker cue would be better but can see the disadvantage of it now. it's all about tricking your brain into doing what you want lol.
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"They barely play with English in snooker" ?? Lool. In snooker there's spin on just about every shot, and they're playing on a much bigger distance which makes playing accurately with side infinitely more difficult. Sir I'd like to see you play a straight long pot on a snooker table and screw back with side to play a shot at the other end of the table.
They really don't. And it is one of the reasons some of these guys have such a hard time in pool. Hitting a long draw is not with is being referred to. It's the sidespin. The shot at 12:50 shows that lack of understanding perfectly. Even a good amateur would not end up where Trump did. That is only from not knowing how to use spin. When you snooker fans/players talk about spin I don't think you realize how much the top pool players are using and how they're utilizing it to spin off the rails around the table.
@@johntallanger4036 When high level snooker players are in amongst the reds they practically have the cue ball on a string. It's the difference cue and ball size that makes it more difficult to transition. With that said the top snooker players have shown over the years that they can give a good account of themselves in American Pool. There's not a pool player on earth that is taking a frame from a ranked snooker player
@@worldz_gone_crazy4398 No one really plays it. There just isn't any interest in the game outside of England. That said, there are some guys who could win matches. Kaci, Pagulayan, Duel. Not sure if anyone else has even cared enough to try. It's a niche sport in England. You might as well learn Russian pyramid. The snooker guys who transitioned took it seriously. Also they're playing short race 9 ball, which is kind of fluky. No snooker player has ever become a top ranked pool player. Mark Grey is probably the closest thing and he'd get blown out of the water by the true top players. No disrepect, just being honest. The snooker guys have really good control on short stun shots. And they play great D. But they just lack the cue power and spins to get to that next gear. Steve Davis and Grey are the best examples of that. They just don't have enough weapons to string big runs.
@@worldz_gone_crazy4398 And you still missed the point. You don't understand pool well enough to know how much spin is needed to be good at it. I would venture to guess you didn't understand my comment about the shot at 12:50 at all, for instance.
If Judd starts watching and learning from Efren Reyes's videos, we would have another legend in pool.. Coz to me, his creativity was like Reyes in snooker
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@@madforit2 My understanding of the American use of "english" is to mean the spins that cause a ball to rebound to the left or right off a cushion. In England this is called side spin. Stun is a lack of spin.
They've obviously never seen Judd in baulk and then screw back the length of the table to get back there. The difference is the size of these pool tips. A lot harder to control when you put on lots of spin/English.
@@guitarman1477 the tip is a huge difference, I always play with a snooker cue to get more control when I put some spin on the ball tho I usually play 8 ball , but I’ve never found it even remotely harder playing 9 ball, the bigger table, the massive pockets and fewer balls makes it almost impossible to play too badly if you’re a half decent 8 ball player
@@eirebhoy132 agreed. 8 ball, or spot and stripes as we call it, is basic reds/yellows pub pool table. play for your county in that game and 8 ball is piss easy. 9 ball is no different , provided you can get to the table and then clear up in order. snooker cue is better for everything except breaking. the cushion angle is the biggest difference i find. still, pool is a simple game c/f snooker.
Enjoying the commentary a lot especially the input from the American. These are very tight pockets for American pool aren’t they. A bit tighter than their normal comp tables. Judd’s miss on the one ball in the last frame highlights this. And the middle pockets that size and that cut are not friendly. In general these pockets are a big bigger and friendlier than the snooker Judd is used to, but not by much. And perhaps the middles are around about equivalent?
Yes, these are tighter than most. But that has been the trend in pool for a while now. Cloth has also gotten quicker so it's not really any more difficult than the old setups where the pockets were bigger but the cloth was so slow you had to power the ball more. I'd say they're a little friendlier but not by much. The real challenge for a snooker player coming to pool was mentioned by the announcer. They're not as accustomed to using heavy spin. They're also not as used to playing off the rails. Snooker is a lot more stun shots. They all do seem to play excellent defense though. And Trump's break showed promise.
The professional snooker tables are 3.3 inches at the narrowest compared to 4.5 inches on a “tight” pool pocket . The snooker ball is 2 and 16 th compared to 2 and a 1/4 pool ball. The pockets on the 9 ball table are “ buckets” in comparison. Chinese 8 ball, in China is played with snooker style/ size pockets only with the 2/ 1/4 “ balls making it a more difficult potting game. Watch Earl Strickland and Van Boening play this game. Russian Pyramids are even tighter pockets. However snooker is by far the more skilful of the cue sports because precise cue ball control is more of a necessity for big breaks which are essential at the professional level. A pure pool player will improve his game by playing snooker but a snooker player will be advised to avoid pool as it could damage his/ her technique.
Yeah Judd is ace really taken to 9 ball most of the snooker players are not that good on the key shot namely the break off but Judd has a consistent break and run! I like the fact that he is still using his snooker stance where most including me have to have both legs bent for chin on cue shots.
If he didn't use his normal snooker stance he could really struggle when he's back on a snooker table. His cue action goes across the line of the shot which means his body (and cue) has to be in exactly the right position when he strikes the cue ball. If he changed stance that timing and body position would be all wrong. And let's face it, the snooker table is where he earns his living.
XD That made me chuckle! I think a good IPA or two might have had the same effect. Skip the Xanax and go straight for a, eh f it buzz! What's the worst that can happen, I lose?
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Yeah the guy, judd is known as the snooker player with the most ever cue power who constantly plays exhibition shots with ridiculous amounts of english on every shot lmao
Stupid comment for sure almost like it was an unintended joke or just pure lack of knowledge of judds and all the best snooker players in the world talent ! What only pool players play with side spin? Oh i mean english?
He looked like a deer in the headlights the whole time. One of the commentators said he was just enjoying playing an idol. Didn't look like he enjoyed one moment of it.
That’s called intimidation and fear the game is in the head before it’s on the table without believing and confidence you won’t hit the side of a barn with a shotgun
@@josephcredendino2899 I played him tonight, and he was my opponent in my last bar box match. Beat me 7-2 both times. He's a great shot, but even better, he's an amazing dude. Legitimately one of the nicest people you'll ever meet.
in the pool context, what does english mean? so if he says that trump isnt used to playing with more english, does that mean with more inside spin towards the pockets or what?
Why the hell would they invert the colors of the 4 and the 5?!? I am fine with the new color sets and all but the changing the 5 and 13 to purple completely screws it up. The original change of the 4 and the 12 to pink was for television to make it easier to see what ball it was opposed to the 8.
Judd playing pool?? There are much more distractions in the hall than during snooker matches. There is no music playing in the background during snooker :)
Where can I stream Full matches w/ commentary of the US Open 9-Ball Championships?.. I Don't want to see afternoon/ evening sessions or highlights. I prefer to see Full matches w/ commentary. Is there a private Channel somewhere? I have not been able to find it
I can't keep commenting, but then they say something stupid..."they hardly play with English in snooker"...dude they play with side all the time in fact more than in pool and it's harder to play with as well. An some players like Ronnie an a few others use spin on every shot they play even if it is just a little bit.
Agreed. These commentators just have no clue about snooker game. Snooker player does need some time to play very well against the pool top pro. But I see Judd better than other snooker pro here. He has been breaking well and running table. When he improves it more, next year he will win more. So glad the snooker pro are coming to USA now :)
Quite. I think they should watch a lot more snooker before making comments such as that. Snooker players use a lot of 'English' for 'Masse' shots, swerves etc.,
Longer table and thicker left makes it hqrd to play wity side spin as the cueball swerves very easily causing you to miss. So no. Snooker players use little english. Pool players do use a lot more. Educate yourself.
I tend to play better with better players, and make more mistakes against players who are making mistakes. I'm just a local league player, but i wonder if trump, being new to the game, had some of that going on
Yeah. Thats a real thing in many games and sports. I'm a beginner and I saw this happening in the game of one of our club's decent players while playing against me. By the 3rd frame, he was playing only a little bit better than me. Same goes in Table Tennis.
It’s because snooker, like most British sports V US, is more sophisticated. Basketball V soccer Rugby V gridiron Baseball (rounders) v cricket Snooker V pool Generally speaking, US sports are one dimensional, and need to have frequent scoring otherwise the fans don’t get it.
Can any pool buffs tell me how the balls are counted when they drop? Is it automated or is there some eagle eyed fellow on the rail marking them off as they are potted? I only ask with regard to the break off shot of course🤔
Just let me get this right, Trump is a snooker player ? Not a pool player ? Am I missing something here ? I've now watched the englishman play in 3 matches in the U.S Open Pool 2021 and he has 'wiped the floor' with all 3 opponents and to add to that, he's done it with style, flair, flamboyancy and impunity.
@Dr. Phillip Montgomery - Okay, thanks for the enlightenment. So, can anybody enter these tournaments? Isn't there some kind of qualification process ? Is there no given criteria required to enter pool tournaments in the u.s.a ? Strikes me as bizarre if just anybody can enter tournaments, making numbers up ?
@Dr. Phillip Montgomery = Nah you're right. Just a bit Drunk sorry & do apologise. Not a huge Trump Fan though got overexcited.. Do enjoy 9 Ball as obv' have to pot in 'Numeric order' etc. (Fair-Play you enjoy 8 Ball + didn't realise anyone could enter this comp'! All the best...)
3:04....that shot in snooker is called a reverse double and it's played all the time...I get your commentators don't know everything about snooker but they should know at least abit, you should just have Phil Yates doing trump's match's because he commentate's on the snooker as well so knows what he's talking about.
@@owengardiner4628 read his comment again..he thinks they should know a 'BIT' and he is right and yes snooker commentaters would know quite a bit about pool.
@@owengardiner4628 because he also commentate's on pool as well, on fact he did so on trump's first match, but as the other guy pointed out, I said at least know a little bit about the game your going to make comments about what's played an how often to know what your saying is correct.
Nah, no luck agreeing just because they are both cue sports doesn't mean they should know anything about the other. I'm not a pool fan I watch snooker and I don't see why a snooker commentator should know anything about pool. That's like asking a boxing commentator to know about MMA
Whomever pots the 9 legally, wins. Can even happen off the break. Or, say, you can send the 1 into the 9 and win on your second shot. Welcome to 9 ball.
@@maxington26 this, plus the fact the winner gets to break off the next rack, makes it feel quite uncompetitive at times. Watching Judd Trump lose 11-1 to Jayson Shaw later in this tournament was a bit painful, he was just sat there on the sidelines for most of it whilst Shaw steamed on uninterrupted. Not saying Shaw didn’t deserve the win, but I find snooker much more enjoyable to watch and much more representative of a player’s full spectrum of ability.
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Patel definitely lost this game before it started bit of a shame really love watching trump play snooker so this is really interesting to see how he'll do against the bigger pool guys
Fear is a lot more visible today then ever before in life!... When you compare it to people who have lost lives in historic wars, compared that to sportspeople who are afraid to challenge themselves, you can sense right away that they've already lost before the start.
I promise you once a few more snooker legends like Ronnie an Higgins start playing it will be all of seconds before the pool guys want them banned because they making them look bad lol.
Well Ronnie and Steve Davis have been both to the Mosconi Cup and they weren't like the better Players. Pool is a lot different from Snooker, when you play it at this level.
commentator says they barely use english in snooker lol. dunno which snooker matches hes been watching but he doesn't know what hes talking about, on long shots maybe yeah but for anything else its nearly always got side on the ball.
As long as Trump keeps potting balls off the break I don't see anyone beating him. He's keeping control of the matches. Some of the shots he had off the breaks were difficult aswell.
@Dr. Phillip Montgomery listening to the snooker people has been really informative. it shows how ignorant people can be and not realize it. trump is about at the level of a good amateur.
@Dr. Phillip Montgomery All very true. The snooker people don't realize how much cue power and spin is needed to be a top pool player. Even snooker guys that put in the work never get to that next gear where they can string big packs together. Also, yes, while 9 ball is pretty easy in some regard to actually beat the top guys over an extended period of time isn't. At that level you're talking about being great at everyhing: jumping, break, combos...coming with crazy shots.
I knew Trump was a fantastic snooker player but I had no idea he also played snukker!!!
A man of many talents.
Yeah, I’d love to see what a sn’ker table looks like 😂
Shnookur
Alright, alright. The accent joke is funny the first time, not another 5,564,888 times.
Trump recently lost to Ronnie O'Sullivan...
@@w00llee14 well it is cos its not pronounced like that
Getting Trump to play in the Open was a great move by Matchroom, there will be a lot of people watching this overseas due to the huge snooker crowd
That'll be me ☺️
snooker crown present.
very true... im watching both sports, but i've always preffered snooker mainly because strategy is more important and thats kinda my thing. Its great to see Trump competing in pool as its beneficial for both sports. Snooker fans will watch cause its Trump playing pool and pool fans will watch cause they're just as curious to see how a snooker player does in pool. As long as people dont become toxic and elitist everything is fine
@@floreaciprian9742 finally some respectful comment from a guy who can admire the beauty of both game. i love both pool and snooker and prefer snooker cause just as you said the strategy plays a bigger role there. snooker also requires a great cue ball control tho. and as a guy who loves snooker more than pool, it's good to see a comment like you who didn't bash or hate other sport just because they don't like it haha
@@ayubisf yea bro people just look for reasons to argue instead of looking for reasons to get along
Pool to snooker terminology
English = side spin
Draw = screw
Bank = double
Scratch = in off
Combination / carom= plant
Breakout = cannon
Stroke = good cueing
Rail = Cushion
ok..but what do the american commentators mean by 'snukker'?
also does hooked = snookered?
@@seldom_bucket It means than in US nobody really cares about snooker (or rugby or cricket, etc)...
@@danender5555 and absolutely no one cares about American sports but at least we're not dumb enough to call it bass ball.
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😂 Big up match room for that
Free, NO, what do you think the freaking ads are for. Free, Ha!
@@billfrater1948 nothings free, but comparatively its definitely worth it
it had me confused is Steve Dawson anything to do with this after taking over from Barry Hearn?
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Finally, a modern snooker great playing competitive pool Loved watching the old Mosconi Cups with Ronnie, Jimmy White, Steve Davis... Now in HD! Judd's defensive play is excellent (as you would expect) and it's nice to see he has achieved a good break, which people always say will be snooker players' greatest problem.
He does play good defense. The break is hard but a bit sloppy. He would be good if he played more.
I actually think the biggest problem the snooker guys have is not knowing how to use heavy spin. You can see it with Trump a couple times here. Some of them also have strokes that aren't powerful enough to compete with the best players.
Still fun to watch.
@@johntallanger4036 If he decides to pursue this (doubtful as I imagine he's busy enough and wealthy enough with snooker) I'm sure he will be a serious contender... Still, I wish I was "as bad as" Judd playing pool!
@@marksaus Hard to say. No snooker player has ever become a top pool player.
The way he played in this match is about the level of a good local player!
@@Patch801 haha so if making a pool final is being a top player then sure. All kinds of people have made pool finals in short race 9 ball. So if all of them are top players then your definition is correct.
There's just no evidence of him or any former snooker player of being able to compete with the top pool players consistently.
@@johntallanger4036 Mark Selby is UK pool champion. He did beat Darren Appleton in the final. And Mark Selby is 4x time snooker world champion and won 16 ranking titles and has over 700 century breaks.
There’s a local player that I look up to, and when I had to play him in leagues I felt how I’d imagine Patel felt this match
(Point of pride, I played my first successful lock up safety against him and got ball in hand, he still beat me 9-2)
Those are the matches I always loved in league. Going up against a max 8 ball or high level 9 ball player forged my game to the next level. I always asked my captain play me against the highest guy they have and he did too! Getting those wins and successful safeties on those guys really, REALLY, puts confidence in your game going forward!
Thougth you werre going to say that there was a local player that would beat both of these two. There's quite a few that would meet that criteria in most major cities!
MR Patel knows how good Trump from living in England and watching Trump play snooker and he is literally bricking it . I would be as well i think
Totally. I was a quite good amateur pool player and came across a failed snooker player - he wasn't quite good enough to make a living from it - and he wiped the floor with me!
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he was playing terribly, almost so much so that he had money on it
Trump is a great player and a great person..i hope he does well in this tournament..its exciting to see him here.
best of both worlds
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I’ve watched Judd long enough to see when he really wants to win, but you can tell he is out of his element! I’d love to see the 9-ball players play on a snooker table. Tiny pockets, rounded pocket rails, giant table… quite humbling
Why do they think that snooker players don’t put side spin (or “english”) on the ball? They do it all the time! The even do it on the break off.
My thought exactly when i heard that. Ronnie's natural shot is played with a touch of side all the time.
English is not just side spin....
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@@chrisdion6255 Of course it is!!!!! The Americans call screw / backspin, draw, and topspin, follow. English is side spin! I've played snooker and pool for 20 years a good level. Trust me.
Very narrow minded to think that snooker is just screw and topspin, just because they’re not swerving the cue ball
Thanks for the coverage! This is awesome.
This will be rewatched in 2024 and Judd will have won everything in pool as well. Tooooo good!
True. Trump will win in 2024.
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54:23 greater camera work....Trump is on the last ball and the camera focuses on Patel.
Made me lol.
The coverage as a whole is quite annoying.. poor camera work mixed with simply odd commentating. They can’t help but try and guess what judd was gonna do and failed miserably.. ah well Trump into the next round will do. But his opponent here was dreadful, how on earth he was in this tournament I will never know. He was missing shots that were just criminal to miss.
@@reddevil8892 Yates constantly talking about trump like a god is pretty cringe too tbh. I like trump but its all he talks about.
It’s not really the fault of the cameraman. Usually the technical director is in charge of positioning and which frame is being watched. Just like sports, each camera is getting different shots from different positions, and the TD has each frame on. Monitor and switches each frame.
So Brutal :D
Im a snooker fan and seeing Judd play 9ball really satisfying and beautifull to watch
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Especially those break-offs of his are insane. I'm always so amazed by his out-of-this-world cue power
I think that Judd playing with a pool cue makes sense if the difference in weight and balance 'reminds' him that he's playing pool and not snooker, altering his mindset and shot selection accordingly. Does that make sense?
Absolutely.
that's a really good take on it, i thought a snooker cue would be better but can see the disadvantage of it now. it's all about tricking your brain into doing what you want lol.
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"They barely play with English in snooker" ?? Lool. In snooker there's spin on just about every shot, and they're playing on a much bigger distance which makes playing accurately with side infinitely more difficult. Sir I'd like to see you play a straight long pot on a snooker table and screw back with side to play a shot at the other end of the table.
Exactly, I couldn't believe what I heard.
They really don't. And it is one of the reasons some of these guys have such a hard time in pool. Hitting a long draw is not with is being referred to. It's the sidespin. The shot at 12:50 shows that lack of understanding perfectly.
Even a good amateur would not end up where Trump did. That is only from not knowing how to use spin.
When you snooker fans/players talk about spin I don't think you realize how much the top pool players are using and how they're utilizing it to spin off the rails around the table.
@@johntallanger4036 When high level snooker players are in amongst the reds they practically have the cue ball on a string. It's the difference cue and ball size that makes it more difficult to transition.
With that said the top snooker players have shown over the years that they can give a good account of themselves in American Pool. There's not a pool player on earth that is taking a frame from a ranked snooker player
@@worldz_gone_crazy4398 No one really plays it. There just isn't any interest in the game outside of England. That said, there are some guys who could win matches. Kaci, Pagulayan, Duel. Not sure if anyone else has even cared enough to try. It's a niche sport in England. You might as well learn Russian pyramid.
The snooker guys who transitioned took it seriously. Also they're playing short race 9 ball, which is kind of fluky. No snooker player has ever become a top ranked pool player. Mark Grey is probably the closest thing and he'd get blown out of the water by the true top players.
No disrepect, just being honest. The snooker guys have really good control on short stun shots. And they play great D. But they just lack the cue power and spins to get to that next gear. Steve Davis and Grey are the best examples of that. They just don't have enough weapons to string big runs.
@@worldz_gone_crazy4398 And you still missed the point. You don't understand pool well enough to know how much spin is needed to be good at it. I would venture to guess you didn't understand my comment about the shot at 12:50 at all, for instance.
If Judd starts watching and learning from Efren Reyes's videos, we would have another legend in pool..
Coz to me, his creativity was like Reyes in snooker
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Hes better prob 😂
What a luxury to hear commentary from Albin and Jayson at the same time 🙂
Thank you for the full match.. really enjoy it.
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38:35 Did the commentator actually say that snooker players don't use English???????
Snooker players NEVER use english. We use side spin ;)
@@bencrossley647 what's English in this context? A particular type of spin or stun?
@@bencrossley647 Absolutely ;)
@@madforit2 My understanding of the American use of "english" is to mean the spins that cause a ball to rebound to the left or right off a cushion. In England this is called side spin.
Stun is a lack of spin.
@@bencrossley647 ah side off the cushion. Cheers
38:18 "they barely play with English in snooker"....is he sure about that?
Yup, those snooker players almost never use English...🤔
Especially those English snooker players 😂
To be fair they don’t, they don’t use these disgusting terms like English and rail 😂
They don't use nearly as much as the top pool players. Trump doesn't know how to command heavy side spin.
They've obviously never seen Judd in baulk and then screw back the length of the table to get back there.
The difference is the size of these pool tips. A lot harder to control when you put on lots of spin/English.
Yes Judd overspinning the ball. Let’s hope he adjusts to the cue tip throughout the tournament.
Your fairly clueless, the difference is the size, and weight of the ball, nothing to do with the cue tip
@@guitarman1477 the tip is a huge difference, I always play with a snooker cue to get more control when I put some spin on the ball tho I usually play 8 ball , but I’ve never found it even remotely harder playing 9 ball, the bigger table, the massive pockets and fewer balls makes it almost impossible to play too badly if you’re a half decent 8 ball player
@@eirebhoy132 agreed. 8 ball, or spot and stripes as we call it, is basic reds/yellows pub pool table. play for your county in that game and 8 ball is piss easy. 9 ball is no different , provided you can get to the table and then clear up in order. snooker cue is better for everything except breaking. the cushion angle is the biggest difference i find. still, pool is a simple game c/f snooker.
@@guitarman1477 afaik there is also some different in the felt characteristics, no?
It can be difficult to suddenly adapt with the fact that you are being telecasted to the world!... WP!
When you realize... that talent gives you the potential to overcome the peak of your nerves... though it certainly is a process!
Check out Tony Drago the tornado, he is by far the best snooker player turned 9 ball player out there!
I had no idea Nick Shulman was into pool...he's a poker beast!
Who wanna see Judd vs Shane?
I'd love to see Earl playing Judd. Earl played Davis and O'Sullivan 9 Ball and Hendry on Chinese 8 Ball. Playing Trump would be a nice to watch.
would rather shaw and judd cuz shaw also have snooker background and potting ability. Matching pace is also more interesting
@@marstinbilliards4214 Earl needs to just fucking go away. Or at least come back after some very serious psychiatric care... which he's always needed.
I do.
@@captainbuddyfantastic4181 he always stuck out like a sore thumb
Stuck between favourite player and home country 😀 don't know who to support
Patel was very nervous through out the game feeling sad for him
Enjoying the commentary a lot especially the input from the American. These are very tight pockets for American pool aren’t they. A bit tighter than their normal comp tables. Judd’s miss on the one ball in the last frame highlights this. And the middle pockets that size and that cut are not friendly.
In general these pockets are a big bigger and friendlier than the snooker Judd is used to, but not by much. And perhaps the middles are around about equivalent?
Yes, these are tighter than most. But that has been the trend in pool for a while now. Cloth has also gotten quicker so it's not really any more difficult than the old setups where the pockets were bigger but the cloth was so slow you had to power the ball more.
I'd say they're a little friendlier but not by much.
The real challenge for a snooker player coming to pool was mentioned by the announcer. They're not as accustomed to using heavy spin. They're also not as used to playing off the rails. Snooker is a lot more stun shots.
They all do seem to play excellent defense though. And Trump's break showed promise.
The professional snooker tables are 3.3 inches at the narrowest compared to 4.5 inches on a “tight” pool pocket .
The snooker ball is 2 and 16 th compared to 2 and a 1/4 pool ball.
The pockets on the 9 ball table are “ buckets” in comparison.
Chinese 8 ball, in China is played with snooker style/ size pockets only with the 2/ 1/4 “ balls making it a more difficult potting game.
Watch Earl Strickland and Van Boening play this game.
Russian Pyramids are even tighter pockets.
However snooker is by far the more skilful of the cue sports because precise cue ball control is more of a necessity for big breaks which are essential at the professional level.
A pure pool player will improve his game by playing snooker but a snooker player will be advised to avoid pool as it could damage his/ her technique.
I'm Judd Trump fan but Proud to see our Indian player against worlds no 1. ❣️
thank you matchroom for making this fully available AND for not ruining the outcome, unlike Eurosport!
Yeah Judd is ace really taken to 9 ball most of the snooker players are not that good on the key shot namely the break off but Judd has a consistent break and run!
I like the fact that he is still using his snooker stance where most including me have to have both legs bent for chin on cue shots.
If he didn't use his normal snooker stance he could really struggle when he's back on a snooker table.
His cue action goes across the line of the shot which means his body (and cue) has to be in exactly the right position when he strikes the cue ball.
If he changed stance that timing and body position would be all wrong.
And let's face it, the snooker table is where he earns his living.
Both stances are effective in either sport. The stance really is more to do with tradition than form to be honest.
Barely play with "english" in snooker? Ronnie O Sullivan himself said they use sidespin virtually on every shot. Suspect call that by the commentator.
Judd before the open said a big difference is how much more often he uses spin
Ronnie cant be compared to other snooker players...
@@hoojiiiii Or even Judd, those 2 are exceptional showmakers and they often opt for the hard pots instead of the safety plays.
Trumps opponent needed a Xanax and a mid strength beer.
XD That made me chuckle! I think a good IPA or two might have had the same effect. Skip the Xanax and go straight for a, eh f it buzz! What's the worst that can happen, I lose?
Patel best wishes for future, you have a wonderful future ahead
This nice to see these elite snooker players taking this on, sure, it is a matter of practice, but the snooker players have exceptional cue control
Snooker players always compete when they try pool, but pool players trying snooker more often flunk completely
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"they barely play with english in snooker" says the man that has clearly never seen Judd playing snooker!
Ikr! Clearly hes got no idea what hes talking about smh glad someone else heard that stupid comment
Yeah the guy, judd is known as the snooker player with the most ever cue power who constantly plays exhibition shots with ridiculous amounts of english on every shot lmao
Regardless a professional snooker player uses english routinely. Saying they rarely use it shows how ignorant the commentator is to the snooker game
Stupid comment for sure almost like it was an unintended joke or just pure lack of knowledge of judds and all the best snooker players in the world talent ! What only pool players play with side spin? Oh i mean english?
They do not use the amount of spin that pool players do. Nor that amount as regularly. You can see Trump not really knowing how to use sidespin.
I feel like Patel wrote the game off before he even got to the table
He looked like a deer in the headlights the whole time. One of the commentators said he was just enjoying playing an idol.
Didn't look like he enjoyed one moment of it.
@@Wizardofgosz he always walked off and forget his chalk LOL
That’s called intimidation and fear the game is in the head before it’s on the table without believing and confidence you won’t hit the side of a barn with a shotgun
Patel was leaving puddles all around the table
Nah, not you.. have some confidence - people say you don't even know how to SPELL the word "lose". ;)
This is interesting to see a snooker legend Judd Trump on a 9ball match.
@@Dorian_B_73 = Pardon!
@@Dorian_B_73 = Fair Shout.. Just defending him during too much Booze consumption. Sorry.
Why did you spell out his full name you mong
Dhruv is clearly a very capable player, I think he would have provided some better competition had his nerves not gotten the better of him.
Good to see our Indian Gujju boy playing against trump :-) Good match patel bhai
Pool is Very easy for a World champion Snooker Player who has made 147 several times
Feel sorry for the lad Judd's playing he looks extremely nervous
Shit
@James G yes
@James G sure. But I bet he can play a lot better than he played here as well
@@josephcredendino2899 I played him tonight, and he was my opponent in my last bar box match. Beat me 7-2 both times. He's a great shot, but even better, he's an amazing dude. Legitimately one of the nicest people you'll ever meet.
When the hell did Judd Trump start playing pool? Rofl. its been a while since I've watched pool/snooker vids.
in the pool context, what does english mean? so if he says that trump isnt used to playing with more english, does that mean with more inside spin towards the pockets or what?
Supporting Indian talent here....
For what? Getting raped? Is that the best you can send? Terrible!
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Hard to miss as a snooker player with them gapping pockets. Even UK pool pockets are tight. The pocket in USA are too essy
Why the hell would they invert the colors of the 4 and the 5?!?
I am fine with the new color sets and all but the changing the 5 and 13 to purple completely screws it up. The original change of the 4 and the 12 to pink was for television to make it easier to see what ball it was opposed to the 8.
Judd is the GOAT. The comentators doesn´t seem to understand that he is a snooker player. What is a long play in pool is a short one in snooker.
nice judd plays 9ball, great stuff
Judd playing pool?? There are much more distractions in the hall than during snooker matches. There is no music playing in the background during snooker :)
Where can I stream Full matches w/ commentary of the US Open 9-Ball Championships?.. I Don't want to see afternoon/ evening sessions or highlights. I prefer to see Full matches w/ commentary. Is there a private Channel somewhere? I have not been able to find it
Good question where is the full streamed matches at? I can't find them either😫😫😫
Table 2 has been getting streamed live here I think, other than that sky sports or DAZN
I thought that was nick schulman voice, the poker player/commentator
I can't keep commenting, but then they say something stupid..."they hardly play with English in snooker"...dude they play with side all the time in fact more than in pool and it's harder to play with as well. An some players like Ronnie an a few others use spin on every shot they play even if it is just a little bit.
I made the same comment above. The physics are the same. If you need to move the cue ball a lot english will always be required.
Agreed. These commentators just have no clue about snooker game. Snooker player does need some time to play very well against the pool top pro. But I see Judd better than other snooker pro here. He has been breaking well and running table. When he improves it more, next year he will win more. So glad the snooker pro are coming to USA now :)
Patel completed rack 5 wonderfully.
Did he say they barely play with english in snooker?
Plus the ball. hole ratio is different. In snooker they have holes as big as 1,5 snooker bals when in pool they have holes fitting 2 pool balls.
not really. that used to be the case. now it's a lot tighter. these tables do not fit 2 balls. just look at it.
"They barely play with english in snooker"?
The physics are the same. You need to use as much english in snooker as you do in pool.
Quite. I think they should watch a lot more snooker before making comments such as that. Snooker players use a lot of 'English' for 'Masse' shots, swerves etc.,
Much shorter tables and bigger pockets on reg pool tables
Longer table and thicker left makes it hqrd to play wity side spin as the cueball swerves very easily causing you to miss. So no. Snooker players use little english. Pool players do use a lot more. Educate yourself.
Yes that confused me - almost every shot the top snooker guys play has side spin on. Check side, running side, a touch of swerve...
man these pool players ain't understand shit about snooker and side
I tend to play better with better players, and make more mistakes against players who are making mistakes. I'm just a local league player, but i wonder if trump, being new to the game, had some of that going on
Yeah. Thats a real thing in many games and sports.
I'm a beginner and I saw this happening in the game of one of our club's decent players while playing against me. By the 3rd frame, he was playing only a little bit better than me.
Same goes in Table Tennis.
it's much simpler. he's lousy at pool.
Premiere 24 hrs after the highlights????
Snooker players can kill the pool but pool players probably can’t even make one shoot in snooker
Fact👌
Go watch Steve mizerak playing snooker he was beating steve Davis until steve fluked a ball In....
Very true that my friend
@@RushNCrushhe didn’t win though
It’s because snooker, like most British sports V US, is more sophisticated.
Basketball V soccer
Rugby V gridiron
Baseball (rounders) v cricket
Snooker V pool
Generally speaking, US sports are one dimensional, and need to have frequent scoring otherwise the fans don’t get it.
Why is there snooker refs at the US open 9 ball pool ?
Most snooker refs work in other cue sports.
Number 2 mondial rank in snooker its a legend and play super good 9ball
Yesterday match?
no excuses ..if you want to play in the big leagues you have to be ready...others are
So i guess they play music in the background. Interesting choice
Can any pool buffs tell me how the balls are counted when they drop? Is it automated or is there some eagle eyed fellow on the rail marking them off as they are potted?
I only ask with regard to the break off shot of course🤔
everything that goes in stays in so there is no need to count them
I guess the dots on the table edges are to help with angles and rebounds
Why does Judd always use that black cue for the break and then switch to the other one? 🤔
Just let me get this right, Trump is a snooker player ? Not a pool player ? Am I missing something here ? I've now watched the englishman play in 3 matches in the U.S Open Pool 2021 and he has 'wiped the floor' with all 3 opponents and to add to that, he's done it with style, flair, flamboyancy and impunity.
@Dr. Phillip Montgomery - Okay, thanks for the enlightenment. So, can anybody enter these tournaments? Isn't there some kind of qualification process ? Is there no given criteria required to enter pool tournaments in the u.s.a ?
Strikes me as bizarre if just anybody can enter tournaments, making numbers up ?
@Dr. Phillip Montgomery = Terrible! LOL whatever Dr.
@Dr. Phillip Montgomery = You can sod off now you know he's out eh. I play 8 ball! Not this 9 Ball (massive pocket crap) Doctor.
@Dr. Phillip Montgomery = Nah you're right. Just a bit Drunk sorry & do apologise. Not a huge Trump Fan though got overexcited.. Do enjoy 9 Ball as obv' have to pot in 'Numeric order' etc. (Fair-Play you enjoy 8 Ball + didn't realise anyone could enter this comp'! All the best...)
@@nickycotton6137 ha ha 8 ball, on a Fuckimg tiny little table, and you tippy tap the balls like little pussies
3:04....that shot in snooker is called a reverse double and it's played all the time...I get your commentators don't know everything about snooker but they should know at least abit, you should just have Phil Yates doing trump's match's because he commentate's on the snooker as well so knows what he's talking about.
Why? Would you expect a snooker commentator to know about pool ?
@@owengardiner4628 read his comment again..he thinks they should know a 'BIT' and he is right and yes snooker commentaters would know quite a bit about pool.
@@owengardiner4628 because he also commentate's on pool as well, on fact he did so on trump's first match, but as the other guy pointed out, I said at least know a little bit about the game your going to make comments about what's played an how often to know what your saying is correct.
Nah, no luck agreeing just because they are both cue sports doesn't mean they should know anything about the other. I'm not a pool fan I watch snooker and I don't see why a snooker commentator should know anything about pool. That's like asking a boxing commentator to know about MMA
@@owengardiner4628 = Yeah great comparison! (NOT)
Wait, so one player could pot the first 8 balls but if the other player pots the last 9 ball he wins?
Whomever pots the 9 legally, wins. Can even happen off the break. Or, say, you can send the 1 into the 9 and win on your second shot. Welcome to 9 ball.
@@maxington26 this, plus the fact the winner gets to break off the next rack, makes it feel quite uncompetitive at times. Watching Judd Trump lose 11-1 to Jayson Shaw later in this tournament was a bit painful, he was just sat there on the sidelines for most of it whilst Shaw steamed on uninterrupted.
Not saying Shaw didn’t deserve the win, but I find snooker much more enjoyable to watch and much more representative of a player’s full spectrum of ability.
what size is the table?
WOW, Patel can really wave that stick around!!
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9:10 can someone explain to me what the hell he was trying to do there
he was trying pot in the top left but put too much side so the cueball drift away
Camera angles are so bad, it's hard to watch!!!!
An obscene quantity of adverts!
Any indians watching?? 🇮🇳
Patel definitely lost this game before it started bit of a shame really love watching trump play snooker so this is really interesting to see how he'll do against the bigger pool guys
Fear is a lot more visible today then ever before in life!... When you compare it to people who have lost lives in historic wars, compared that to sportspeople who are afraid to challenge themselves, you can sense right away that they've already lost before the start.
who are the pool commentators please
No one talking about our indian talent such a shame...!
hi does anyone play pool online?
I never read the comments until I've watch the match. I don't want to know who won thank you.
I promise you once a few more snooker legends like Ronnie an Higgins start playing it will be all of seconds before the pool guys want them banned because they making them look bad lol.
I mean snooker is the harder version of pool lol
@@alexsze9136 indeed lol.
Well Ronnie and Steve Davis have been both to the Mosconi Cup and they weren't like the better Players. Pool is a lot different from Snooker, when you play it at this level.
@@Punkpferd thats why he said a few months or so. Smh
Hes shit at pool..didn't you see him go to America and never win even 1 rack ??
That list of the tourney rules doesn't tell us the table size.
Hyped as fuck to see Judd v Jason
Dont mess with trump. .
Patel is a beginner...
Patels body language, queuing style, chalk on table...signs of big time kid
Judd Trump-Champion!!!
A walk in the park compared to snooker. Pockets are like buckets 😂
A top snooker player has the advantage on skill by far I'm affraid
How come Judd was missing so mch
Strange comment at 38:18 about snooker players barely using english. They use it all the time!
commentator says they barely use english in snooker lol. dunno which snooker matches hes been watching but he doesn't know what hes talking about, on long shots maybe yeah but for anything else its nearly always got side on the ball.
I wanna see a trump vs shaw match
You wish is granted.
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As long as Trump keeps potting balls off the break I don't see anyone beating him. He's keeping control of the matches. Some of the shots he had off the breaks were difficult aswell.
lol. he is about as good as an amateur.
@Dr. Phillip Montgomery listening to the snooker people has been really informative. it shows how ignorant people can be and not realize it. trump is about at the level of a good amateur.
@Dr. Phillip Montgomery All very true. The snooker people don't realize how much cue power and spin is needed to be a top pool player. Even snooker guys that put in the work never get to that next gear where they can string big packs together.
Also, yes, while 9 ball is pretty easy in some regard to actually beat the top guys over an extended period of time isn't. At that level you're talking about being great at everyhing: jumping, break, combos...coming with crazy shots.
These pockets are buckets compared to pro snooker tables
This looked like APA league night.
same thought. they would not be the best players at my pool hall
It's nice to see Judd trying this out, but he will get smoked by a top player, about as bad as he would smoke them on a snooker table...
Let's just wait and see. Snooker players have competed in professional pool before, won tournaments and beaten many top-ranked pool players.
@@EnricoFantini Yeah for sure, but based on this match orcollo or filler might win 9-1
@@michaeldao1 he plays Jason shaw now
@@EnricoFantini Shaw just washed him 11-1
No. The differential moving into snooker is vastly greater.
What’s dhru Fargo?
Is that Jason Shaw commentating?
Yeah (Jayson)
@@stuartaberdeen Cheyers