"Why is Butler going to Miami?" *pause* *sarcastic* "Because he wants to win a title!" Lmao I absolutely LOVE listening to old sports casters and laughing about how shortsighted they are.
@Todd Lerfahndler I gotta admit he overperformed a couple years ago but it was pretty much a fluke and this year proved that. Still excited to see how they do with lowery though i seriously doubt championship is in their future anytime soon.
My homeboy was playing 2K with Kyrie online. They had made a bet that if they win in a park the game that kyrie would have to give him a hint where he was playing next year. So Kyrie changed his clothes to the Lakers and his hat to Brooklyn. So we all knew KD and Kyrie were going to Brooklyn since like the 2nd Rd of the playoffs.
Here's the thing. No one. I mean, NO ONE in New York can argue against Billy's 3 minute tirade on how many times the Knicks hit the reset button. This might be the franchise's lowest point in history and they have no one to blame but themselves. The fans are just held hostage by their devotion.
Kyrie played a whole season without Hayward who started out the season injured and didn't play for a year. Weirdly Kyrie is going to the Nets and Durant is out for the season injured and won't play until another year. So Kyrie is going to get hurt and the other Nets players are going to the Eastern Conference Finals right?
Madison square garden means a lot to New Yorkers....and really no one else. Add in Dolan, A decades long losing streak and no real way to improve and Brooklyn was the play. Both end up on the west coast soon. All nba players desire that and New York is a baseball town. The nba universe revolves around LA. New York will always be 2nd class.
You should do a pod ranking the west 1 thru 16. And then the East...WAS needs to get what they can for Beal now or they'll end up losing him for nothing like the Hornets & Kemba. Get 3 or 4 future unprotected 1sts & a young player from a team that's one player away. OKC has peaked too, they could get 3 or 4 1sts for Russ & PG each.
Not really breaking News that Jordan has a few weaknesses that are fatal in this style of basketball currently in the NBA. He also has a lot of minutes played for a high flying big man.
@@82394mike Read it again. Simmons doesn't have a jumper. Butler was an ideal fit with them and a good crunch time scorer, now who takes on that burden? Harris? This is considerably worse.
@@patjablonski9739 how are they worse swapping butler for richardson and horford? butler clearly didnt fit and they just acquired a big that perfectly compliments embiid.
@@82394mike They lost Redick too. Butler definitely fit, not sure what you're talking about. Horford is a lumbering 4/5 who is now playing alongside another lumbering 5 in a league that is getting smaller/more positionless. There's going to be a lot of time where Horford and Embiid aren't on the floor together, plus the back end of that Horford contract won't be very good as he is aging. The Sixers could defend and rebound quite well after they acquired Butler and Harris, now they've gotten slower and older.
if the bucks kept brogdon i think everyone would pencil them into the finals cause they get dante divencinzo back next year he may be better and can give you over half of what a mirotic does from 3 and scoring wise and adding robin and wes combined with sterling brown and pat getting better as young players same for khris and gianiss getting much better should make up for losing mirotic thats not a big loss you can replace him with a buyout guy in march as well like say iggy thats fine they will add someone someway im not concerned there...if every team got worse in the east even the 76ers and pacers then the bucks should be favorites still with gianiss cause you cant put a ceiling on his growth with a jumper..he becomes a more aggressive kd and hes already amazing but he adds a jumper look out plus they got 3 picks and a trade exception in that deal they didnt lose him for free to a overrated Indiana team with no depth or bench....they lost so many guys they aren't winning shit next year....but lets say the bucks find a decent starting level pg with that stuff then what are people going to say?..they got marginally worse?..thats not a big deal for a team that was so close to the finals and honestly got to the east finals without brogdon and won a game without him in the east finals since game 2 was such a blowout....hes not that hard to replace and he has foot issues ...I think they can find somebody who is 90% of what he did...cough jrue holiday is a perfect pick I feel
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The Pacers are loaded with good young talent at every position and on the bench. If they are healthy they’re going to be very very good but no super stars so no one will talk about them.
Olidipo with a filled out roster of quality talent may make that leap. I also have long felt TJ Warren was held back by Suns not realizing what they had and may have 23/8/3 upside still personally.
The media is just assuming that KD will be the first guy to come back from an achilles injury and still play at a high level. I don’t think it’s this absurd, unconscionable Also, maybe a 6/7 seed? So Portland and the Clippers and everyone else is just that much better than Golden State?
They have no depth at one position right now, less than 24 hours into free agency. Let’s chill. It’s AMAZING how Steph Curry and Draymond were hall of famers a month ago and now KD is gone and Klay is hurt and they can’t even make the playoffs? You guys really think a team like the Thunder are any better? Or Portland? C’mon.
No one is going to believe me and thats fine but KD and Draymond were in love but the relationship got rocky towards the end and even spilled over a bit into the games and KD decided he had to go. KD and Green probably won't come out of the closet until years after they get inducted into the hall of fame because of the toxic masculinity inherit in basketball locker rooms and in professional sports orbit all together. I imagine tell all autobiographies are inevitable but green wants to be an announcer and KD is okay in the background because there are things he don't want the public to know. I don't think KD is with anyone on the Nets but obviously has a very close relationship with Jordan but as far as I'm aware are just friends.
Bryan LaPointe there is literally no franchise outside of the Lakers that has consistently put together different winning teams. The Celtics won the bulk of their rings way before the modern era. But since the modern era it’s literally only been the Lakers. SA, Chicago, they had one run each pretty much.
KD might lose 30% mobility but he is still Dirk 2011-13. He can still be dominant. You can't block his shot and he is a better passer than Dirk. The Nets did well.
Like the show! great points but as a working stiff who does a regular 40hr wk I dont need to hear about how much a guy gets paid to ball. Whatever they get paid is alright, its just not the fans business. Way over the common mans head and bring very little to the conversation of basketball But A1 commentary Thx
@@CheefChaos understood, but again idc and neither should most of us unless you plan on joining a team. I dont even think the players should be privy to each others indiv contracts - It creates dissension. And the fan has even less to gain from the knowledge of how vast the gap between theirs and the lifestyle of their favorite players. I dont need to know how much my garbage man makes as long as he does his job and is happy. Let the finances be between the player and those responsible for compensating them. In the 4th quarter with the final shot on the line nobody cared how much Kawhi makes
Warriors would've been infinitely better by improving their depth with PatBev, DGreen or even go after Horford... instead they get a defensive liability essentially on a contract year...
ALs overrated but he's perfect for Philly especially with the load management and potential injuries to Embid. Plus Horford can actually stay in front of most guards so i don't see his defense in space being an issue.
Do you watch him enough? He's really one of those guys who don't have great numbers but just makes the team better both offensively and defensively. Horford is a guy who can shoot the 3, an elite pick and roll/pop receiver, provides rim protection, can guard in space, moves the ball and finds open people. Now even as a Cs fan, I don't think he's worth the contract the Sixers gave him, but skill and contract value are two different conversations. To me, having someone who's either A- or B+ in almost everything is better than someone who's A+ in two things but C on the rest, but that's just my personal basketball philosophy.
Al Horford is a poor man's Tim Duncan that will finally get to play his natural PF position which he hasn't had a chance to do for his entire career. His production and impact always drastically improve when he does play PF always have. Now he gets paired with an elite C not just a C in Embiid and when they go small he still gets a legitimate PF type in Tobias Harris instead of SF's playing as small ball PF's leaving Horford alone up front. I'm a Celtics fan and hate Philadelphia teams as I'm supposed to but man I love Horford and want him to get his ring bad enough that I'm fine with the 76ers taking one.
nah man. Al Horford is hella underrated and people undervalue what he brings to the table. Lmao only people who really don't watch him enough would conclude he's overrated. That or people who only look at the box score and look at his stats 🤣
3 min recap of the Knicks was hilarious. It's like something you would do on 2K
That triple P comment that House makes about Butler in Miami 😂
"Why is Butler going to Miami?"
*pause*
*sarcastic* "Because he wants to win a title!" Lmao
I absolutely LOVE listening to old sports casters and laughing about how shortsighted they are.
@Todd Lerfahndler I gotta admit he overperformed a couple years ago but it was pretty much a fluke and this year proved that. Still excited to see how they do with lowery though i seriously doubt championship is in their future anytime soon.
@@josephmatthews7698 finals appearance and a missed three from a second finals appearance. The Sixers still haven't gotten out of the second round
@@MrOctober44 yeah I know. I was making fun of them for doubting Butler and the Heat.
every sidekick bill gets sounds like jacoby..I can't believe it's not jacoby! it's like he specifically picks someone to compliment his voice.
Bahahahah "Frankie Nicotine"
I always giggle when they say frankie smokes, frankie nicotine, frankie cigs, hahahaha
Simmons is getting paid to drive down the selling price for the Knicks 😂😂😂
The Knicks are getting paid to drive down the selling price for the Knicks.
I'm sensing a lot of hate from Bill Simmons this episode.
Oh yeah some underlying clinching too
The Celtics will be competing with Miami for the 6th seed. Kanter cannot replace Horford at all
Celtics starting 5 will average 80 a game, they are ok.
How bout now
this aged well lmao
lol
My homeboy was playing 2K with Kyrie online. They had made a bet that if they win in a park the game that kyrie would have to give him a hint where he was playing next year. So Kyrie changed his clothes to the Lakers and his hat to Brooklyn. So we all knew KD and Kyrie were going to Brooklyn since like the 2nd Rd of the playoffs.
Three years ago, the Lakers signed Mozgov to a 4 year, $64 mil contract. 🤔
Here's the thing. No one. I mean, NO ONE in New York can argue against Billy's 3 minute tirade on how many times the Knicks hit the reset button. This might be the franchise's lowest point in history and they have no one to blame but themselves. The fans are just held hostage by their devotion.
Kyrie played a whole season without Hayward who started out the season injured and didn't play for a year. Weirdly Kyrie is going to the Nets and Durant is out for the season injured and won't play until another year. So Kyrie is going to get hurt and the other Nets players are going to the Eastern Conference Finals right?
Lmaoo
Conspiracy
Bill swears he wouldnt take DAJ
Madison square garden means a lot to New Yorkers....and really no one else. Add in Dolan, A decades long losing streak and no real way to improve and Brooklyn was the play. Both end up on the west coast soon. All nba players desire that and New York is a baseball town. The nba universe revolves around LA. New York will always be 2nd class.
the knicks are an absolute joke and should be removed from the league
Bills is clearly clinching over Brooklyn
You should do a pod ranking the west 1 thru 16. And then the East...WAS needs to get what they can for Beal now or they'll end up losing him for nothing like the Hornets & Kemba. Get 3 or 4 future unprotected 1sts & a young player from a team that's one player away. OKC has peaked too, they could get 3 or 4 1sts for Russ & PG each.
Wow. Bill murdered DeAndre Jordan.
Not really breaking News that Jordan has a few weaknesses that are fatal in this style of basketball currently in the NBA. He also has a lot of minutes played for a high flying big man.
When was it? This pod is too long
Reggie Bullock got $21M for two years. Bill looking for any angle to hate
RUBIX QOOB and he gushes over Looney on Twitter
I'm not a PJ fan, but I kinda miss the intro song
The Sixers got much worse and they're about to give a max deal to a player with no jumpshot, how can people be optimistic about that?
what are you talking about lol? are you really claiming horford doesnt have a jumper??
@@82394mike Read it again. Simmons doesn't have a jumper. Butler was an ideal fit with them and a good crunch time scorer, now who takes on that burden? Harris? This is considerably worse.
@@patjablonski9739 how are they worse swapping butler for richardson and horford? butler clearly didnt fit and they just acquired a big that perfectly compliments embiid.
@@82394mike They lost Redick too. Butler definitely fit, not sure what you're talking about. Horford is a lumbering 4/5 who is now playing alongside another lumbering 5 in a league that is getting smaller/more positionless. There's going to be a lot of time where Horford and Embiid aren't on the floor together, plus the back end of that Horford contract won't be very good as he is aging. The Sixers could defend and rebound quite well after they acquired Butler and Harris, now they've gotten slower and older.
if the bucks kept brogdon i think everyone would pencil them into the finals cause they get dante divencinzo back next year he may be better and can give you over half of what a mirotic does from 3 and scoring wise and adding robin and wes combined with sterling brown and pat getting better as young players same for khris and gianiss getting much better should make up for losing mirotic thats not a big loss you can replace him with a buyout guy in march as well like say iggy thats fine they will add someone someway im not concerned there...if every team got worse in the east even the 76ers and pacers then the bucks should be favorites still with gianiss cause you cant put a ceiling on his growth with a jumper..he becomes a more aggressive kd and hes already amazing but he adds a jumper look out plus they got 3 picks and a trade exception in that deal they didnt lose him for free to a overrated Indiana team with no depth or bench....they lost so many guys they aren't winning shit next year....but lets say the bucks find a decent starting level pg with that stuff then what are people going to say?..they got marginally worse?..thats not a big deal for a team that was so close to the finals and honestly got to the east finals without brogdon and won a game without him in the east finals since game 2 was such a blowout....hes not that hard to replace and he has foot issues ...I think they can find somebody who is 90% of what he did...cough jrue holiday is a perfect pick I feel
The Pacers are loaded with good young talent at every position and on the bench. If they are healthy they’re going to be very very good but no super stars so no one will talk about them.
Olidipo with a filled out roster of quality talent may make that leap. I also have long felt TJ Warren was held back by Suns not realizing what they had and may have 23/8/3 upside still personally.
I like a healthy pacer starting 5 of brogdonn oladipo tj sabonis myles….nothing off the bench doe...@@jamesmillott9593
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The media is just assuming that KD will be the first guy to come back from an achilles injury and still play at a high level.
I don’t think it’s this absurd, unconscionable
Also, maybe a 6/7 seed? So Portland and the Clippers and everyone else is just that much better than Golden State?
The Warriors have no depth with Klay missing the most of if not the whole year
They have no depth at one position right now, less than 24 hours into free agency. Let’s chill.
It’s AMAZING how Steph Curry and Draymond were hall of famers a month ago and now KD is gone and Klay is hurt and they can’t even make the playoffs?
You guys really think a team like the Thunder are any better? Or Portland? C’mon.
Who's taking the game shot for the Sixers
PHILLY 5-0 Brett brown
j rich 33 year old horford harris cant sop gianiss..smdh...bad move butler was a good player
No longer Boban :(
Wow Bill really doesn't know anything about the European guys in the league. He had to google dragic and doncic to understand their relation 😂
News that Lakers found a way to maintain max salary space conspicuously absent from this podcast. 🤔
2023 - ZION is coming to Knicks!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
IT just grew three inches.... the curse of 5'8 Isaiah Thomas
Dolan destroys the Knicks. He’s the Jerry Jones of the nba.
The Knicks are gonna end up with Karl Anthony Towns sometime around 2023/2024. Until then...
suuuuurrreee 🤣
October 2022. KAT is still with Minnesota and the Knicks still suck.
No one is going to believe me and thats fine but KD and Draymond were in love but the relationship got rocky towards the end and even spilled over a bit into the games and KD decided he had to go.
KD and Green probably won't come out of the closet until years after they get inducted into the hall of fame because of the toxic masculinity inherit in basketball locker rooms and in professional sports orbit all together. I imagine tell all autobiographies are inevitable but green wants to be an announcer and KD is okay in the background because there are things he don't want the public to know.
I don't think KD is with anyone on the Nets but obviously has a very close relationship with Jordan but as far as I'm aware are just friends.
Utah is such a bridesmaid. Always good, never good enough
@Erik Lerström Haha fair point
At least they put out a competitive team every year.
That’s more than you can say about a lot of teams. They made the playoffs like 20 years in a row.
@@PharaohsNews And never won. Gotta be about more than just getting in the dance at some point no?
Bryan LaPointe most teams don’t win the finals.
Most teams don’t have a title.
Bryan LaPointe there is literally no franchise outside of the Lakers that has consistently put together different winning teams.
The Celtics won the bulk of their rings way before the modern era. But since the modern era it’s literally only been the Lakers.
SA, Chicago, they had one run each pretty much.
there's a better chance of giannis signing for the raptors in 2021 than the knicks lol
Go Brooklyn Nets.
KD might lose 30% mobility but he is still Dirk 2011-13. He can still be dominant. You can't block his shot and he is a better passer than Dirk. The Nets did well.
Stabbing Cleveland in the back? I mean...
Does every piece of Ringer content need to say "washed"?
If Oladipo comes back the same player the Pacers win the east next year!
Enjoy ur Enes Kanter Bill and dont forget 67 wins here we go baby
Dellusional Celtic alert
@@philly5-014 I am not a celtic fan :D
@@philly5-014 Phily ain't winning shit either 🤣
Lmao sure like he knew Kyrie would totally wreck chemistry last season
or that Brad would lose control
or that Rozier and Tatum would regress 🤣🤣🤣
Like the show! great points but as a working stiff who does a regular 40hr wk I dont need to hear about how much a guy gets paid to ball. Whatever they get paid is alright, its just not the fans business. Way over the common mans head and bring very little to the conversation of basketball
But A1 commentary
Thx
Bee there is a limited cap, aka each guys contract has to make sense or there are penalities.
@@CheefChaos understood, but again idc and neither should most of us unless you plan on joining a team. I dont even think the players should be privy to each others indiv contracts - It creates dissension. And the fan has even less to gain from the knowledge of how vast the gap between theirs and the lifestyle of their favorite players.
I dont need to know how much my garbage man makes as long as he does his job and is happy. Let the finances be between the player and those responsible for compensating them. In the 4th quarter with the final shot on the line nobody cared how much Kawhi makes
@@Synchronite But ur not listening to a podcast about the best garbage men available in the country are you? Unless ur jealous of them too.
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Go Golden State Warriors.
Warriors would've been infinitely better by improving their depth with PatBev, DGreen or even go after Horford... instead they get a defensive liability essentially on a contract year...
Lol alot of salt on this podcast
Ha
Stick to ladies soccer Bill
Al Horford isn't that damn good. Y'all are overrating his ability as a player. They finna have a slow ass team that can't guard in space
ALs overrated but he's perfect for Philly especially with the load management and potential injuries to Embid. Plus Horford can actually stay in front of most guards so i don't see his defense in space being an issue.
@@thatguywhodidthat3978 we'll see
Do you watch him enough? He's really one of those guys who don't have great numbers but just makes the team better both offensively and defensively. Horford is a guy who can shoot the 3, an elite pick and roll/pop receiver, provides rim protection, can guard in space, moves the ball and finds open people. Now even as a Cs fan, I don't think he's worth the contract the Sixers gave him, but skill and contract value are two different conversations. To me, having someone who's either A- or B+ in almost everything is better than someone who's A+ in two things but C on the rest, but that's just my personal basketball philosophy.
Al Horford is a poor man's Tim Duncan that will finally get to play his natural PF position which he hasn't had a chance to do for his entire career.
His production and impact always drastically improve when he does play PF always have. Now he gets paired with an elite C not just a C in Embiid and when they go small he still gets a legitimate PF type in Tobias Harris instead of SF's playing as small ball PF's leaving Horford alone up front.
I'm a Celtics fan and hate Philadelphia teams as I'm supposed to but man I love Horford and want him to get his ring bad enough that I'm fine with the 76ers taking one.
nah man. Al Horford is hella underrated and people undervalue what he brings to the table.
Lmao only people who really don't watch him enough would conclude he's overrated. That or people who only look at the box score and look at his stats 🤣
Stabbing Cleveland in the back? I mean...