The Ringer’s Lottery Mock Draft Party | The Bill Simmons Podcast (Ep. 379) | The Ringer
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- HBO and The Ringer's Bill Simmons brings in a slew of Ringer staffers for a special mock draft of the top 14 picks.
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Best moment of the podcast by far.
For some reason I'm getting a Marvin Williams vibe from Jarren Jackson
KingLa that’s immediately who I thought of when I saw the guy play
KingLa facts
that proposed trade would be awful for the Mavericks
12 teams didn't pick Donavan Mitchell Bill beats dead narratives to the ground
retro i agree..I watch Donavan Mitchell at Louisville and didnt see him killing in the nba
Not sure i remember the knicks having the #1 pick... It's Bill's Boston love showing. He never mentions how the Celtics were praying for the #1 pick in 2007 to take Greg Oden. Luckily the lottery balls didn't fall their way or they would still be irrelevant.
bill is an idiot
Doah and Duce podcast a lot of people didn’t... he was an athletic player and really good on defense but he wasnt consistent on offense at all...
Salty Knicks fan much?
Lifelong Suns fan here. Not sure about Ayton - hoping for the best!
BETTER VERISON OF KURT THOMAS..HAHAHAAA
Vernon kinda convinced me on Bagley. I'm still on the Luka bandwagon, tho.
And you are smart
do not talk to me or my french son ever again
mo bamba is a lot better than jaren jackson
David M they're a toss up to me. Jaren blocked a ton of shots and showed a better shooting stroke in less minutes than Mo. I love both guys though.
Can someone tell me the name of that Pearl Jam song he always plays at the beginning
Derek Johnson He plays the live version of Corduroy
As a Mavs fan I wouldn’t take back Chandler Parson, but I would trade Wesley or Harrison. Both are overpaid but decent.
Im curious. Since the trade, have you seen any improvement in Harrison's game or is it pretty much the same as when he got there?
Mavs look pretty hopeless to me. Sort of the Miami of the West - too much talent to get a top 2-3 pick, not many valuable assets or young assets.
He is a solid 17 and 7 guy shooting 38% on 3s and playing OK defense. Not worth his massive contract and not a superstar.
I think Dennis Smith will turn into something. And I think worst case this draft they get Mo Bamba who will really help them. But Mavs won't contend again until they can get a franchise player somehow. Barnes shouldn't be your best player, maybe 2nd best.
You guys all trashed Lauri last year leading into the draft and he turned into being a top 4 rookie, and you guys are making the same mistake again with Ayton (only comparing because U of A guys obviously they have practically nothing in common). Ayton is literally Shawn Kemp and you guys are talking about him like he wasn't on the Pac-12 all defense team (which he was). Idk where this "he doesn't play defense" narrative came from. The effort thing that Simmons brought up is what should be his red flag and probably is where a lot of that defense talk comes from. He didn't just take plays off, he just took complete games off sometimes at U of A. If he wasn't getting involved on the offensive end he completely checked out - that is the red flag for Ayton.
Also 100p agree with everything Vernon was saying about Bagley. Someone is gonna luck out with him falling. Him and Ayton are the two best players in the draft
you just agreed with everything they said obout ayton so what's the problem?
I agree that they were totally wrong about laury and they were the first to admit that, but that doesn't mean they can't give there opinion any more
They absolutely can have their own opinion but I just don't understand where the no defense and low defense IQ arguments keep coming from when he was a very above average defender at Arizona as long as he was locked in. The effort thing is absolutely an issue. I just was trying to say that they are getting way too hyped on Doncic and Jackson and pegging Ayton for things that aren't that huge of a deal (like them citing Lauri's poor rebounding and boxing out as to why he wouldn't be good last year as if those are absolute deal breakers). They're overthinking it again is all I'm trying to get at. Simmons has a history of this with Derrick Williams over Kyrie. Don't overthink it, just take the best guy and stop citing really minimal things as absolute deal breakers lol
He’s not Shawn Kemp... Kemp was an out of this world athlete
I'm not even a big Sixers fan, but i'd love to see them grab Miles Bridges or Kevin Knox.
Lil early to judge Frankie Smokes but I get it.
uncbear4 it pisses me off when people talk like only the Knicks pass on Mitchell
Facts... Plus I think Frank will be fine. If he's Gary Payton type of player 10 years from now. Everything is good
absolutely, if he figures out the ball-handling is over.
uncbear4 Gary Payton is a HOFer and the greatest defensive PG of all-time, you cant really hope for Frank to be that at this point. If he's half of GP then the knicks are thrilled and he really maximized his potential
Agreed. GP my favorite player of all time and I see Frank as a similar player. Don't think he's GP, just think it's too early for people to judge.
something like this should have video
Attn: Bill Simmons: Nobody likes a know-it-all.
if the Kings don’t take Doncic they are commiting suicide
why is everyone so high on Jaren Jackson smh
nanaglo4545 3 and D center, great rim protector, only 19 years old. His skills are more tailored to the modern NBA than Ayton. He can stretch the floor, guard multiple positions and he is only 19
nanaglo4545
Marvin Williams vibe
ufcismma some players are late bloomers... dude has crazy physical tools and is the only big guy that can actually shoot... the rest of them you hope can shoot
So Bill spends much of the Girzz's pick explaining why its stupid to trade 4 and Parsons to someone for a pick and a starter, then immediately says the Mavs trading 5 and Barnes for 4 to take Doncic is a great move for everyone. I'm confused.
Don't ever hate on the NBA Champion/ Lebron stopper named Harrison Barnes.
Verno spitting fire
I'm going to throw this out there. What if the league did All Moon teams - that's "moon" not "stars" - a team of the most mediocre players in the league?
A team of Jordan Clarkson. And zaza Pachulia.
Chris Wallace likes to brag about drafting Mike Conley but the year before Jerry West in his last draft with the Grizzlies took Kyle Lowry but Kyle broke his hand and only played in 10 games his rookie year. I remember standing next to Kyle back in '07 at the draft party at FedEx Forum when the Grizzlies took Mike Conley. Turns out Kyle has had a better career than Conley and he fits "grit grind" more than Mike Conley does.
Jared Cunningham would definitely be the number 1 pick
fuggin right
Jaren Jackson and Ayton both had similar situations but I don't get why you guys basically said Jaren made it work and Ayton didn't. Not like deandre put up 20 and 11 compared to 10 ppg. I do like both guys but you guys are way too biased towards him and doncic too.
Why would the knicks draft sexton over Wendell carter, they dont need a pg
Rip xxx ❤️
THIS KIDD ELIE OKUBO LOOKS LIKE A YOUNG DAME LILLARD!!!!!!!!
Kings should try to make a case at kawhi once he is a free agent, he wont, but maybe if Kings get doncic, and have a semi decent season, maybe 5% he considers.
Why do so many people like Jaren Jackson Jr I seriously don’t get it
This Sexton to the Knicks shit is so fucking stupid....the Knicks need a fucking wing not a PG
NBA just doesnt learn... ayton is real similar to okafor (ayton more physically gifted, but okafor a more skilled big man) he is an outdated player the suns will regret this imo.
J Vautrinot agreed. I would take Doncic or Jackson over him
Except he’s wat more athletic , can shoot and rebound? Okafor did one thing - score around the basket
ayton does all of his offence in the paint... exactly what okafor does. The guy has an attitude problem the one thing that cant be fixed I think his excuse about hsi team highlights the problem the best take accountability even if they arent the problem and no matter how good he is athletically that will stop him a defender. imo he is okafor or at a stretch a poor mans KAT because as you said he does have a better shot highlighted by his FT%. I would prefer doncic tbh especially after watching simmons a playmaker like that can be transcendent for a franchise he also knows how to defend in team defence. doncic and booker would be filthy.
I dunno though its all opinions at this point and I can see how you could fall in love with ayton the athlete I think he is just an outdated player and we wont know for a couple of years.
Rudy Gay to Phoenix
Another guy who half asses on D. Great.
Is Deandre Ayton REALLY any different than Jahlil Okafor?
Benji Halpern okafor can’t shoot and is not as strong in the post as ayton. Okafor MIGHT be a better defender but aytons frame gives him a great base to build off of to one day become an elite interior defender. Also Ayton has shown some agility at the wing
Ayton is MUCH better offensively.
Armando Rodriguez and at rebounding, Okafor was a trash rebounder
Much different it's not even close
Brandon McElroy I’m sorry but in the post it’s not even remotely close. Okafor was twice as skilled as Ayton. Okafor was the most polished post guy to come out in years. He just was slow, out of shape, and didn’t play D
What's wrong about picking Ntilikina over Smith Jr.? Bill Simmons lost all credibility...
SHAQ ATTACK Dennis will always be a better scorer but I see frank contributing to a championship team. He has that much potential.
Frank was the youngest kid in the draft. Hornacek mismanaged his minutes because he was coaching for his job. Fizdale hopefully will set things straight with his development. I think you can even pair Frank with another PG defensively, unlike most PGs.
Chris Vernon is just the worst.
MrAvianBear oh come AWWN
This podcast sucked
I luv how bill hypes up any white player who's halfway decent 😂😂😂😂 Doncic is not that good stop it
Battle Rap Is Dead Tre bro stop you’re hatery against white player 😂😂😂
@@yvans. right now it is funny
LOL, great take…
Why do a lottery only mock draft. BORING. Do the whole first round. Podcast is 2 hours long...
Mocking 20-35+ would bore 95% of his listeners. Plus, at that point they are truly dart throwing, its nearly impossible to predict as there are huge tiers of similarly valued players.
I’d rather go in depth on 14 picks than have 2 minutes on 30 picks
goldseraph79 95% of listeners are basketball fans. In depth draft talk won't bore them.
Mickey welsh 2 hours is more than enough time to go in depth on the majority of 30 picks
Clark Askam III Bill Simmons is an entertainer. Kevin O'Conner and the guys at theringer follow the draft closely and know what they are talking about.
How the top 10 of the draft would go based on skill:
1-Marvin Bagley
2-Luka Doncic
3-Michael Porter jr
4- Jaren Jackson jr
5-Mo Bamba
6-Collin Sexton
7-deandre Ayton
8-Miles bridges
9-Mikal Bridges
10-Kevin Knox
LOL
ALL WRONGGGGG
Trae young.
This is a joke.
Lol Bagley isn’t skilled at all... he’s a slimmer Blake Griffin. Outside of Bamba he’s probably the least skilled top 10 pick
The masses falling once again for this Euro Superstar to the NBA hype. Pietrus was "Euro Michael Jordan", Kukoc was "Euro Magic", Nemanjic was "Euro Derrick Rose", now this kid Doncic who some are calling "Euro LeBron James", puuuuuhhhleeeeez! Analyzing Doncic, I have little doubt that he will NOT be a star player over here in the states. So much of his game is predicated on usage and the slower pace of those Euro Leagues will not allow his strengths to translate over here to become elite. A good team will not allow such a limited player to receive that type of usage. Good role player, at best. A major flop, based on the lofty expectations, is not out of the question. Frankly, and sadly for this kid as he will see things here he couldn't imagine in those weak-azz Euro Leagues, many ppl are simply looking, and wishing, maybe for the next Great White Hope, not even realizing that this is their real feeling deep down, as the Doncic hype train is a sub-conscious thing. I remember when Steve Nash was being hailed as like the greatest thing in the world when he was really just a pretty good player who was a byproduct of the D'Antoni system, PNR every play and major usage. Why? Because he was a white dude in a sea of color, 2-time NBA MVP while Kobe only has 1? U kidding me??? But time will tell and reveal with this Luka Doncic, as it always does.
G.A.B. the only logical thing I got out of that paragraph is that you seem to have a wierd thing against white guys...
yeah, you are kinda projecting your own attitude.....
You do know he has looked great on the second strongest league in the world, a league stronger than the NCAA at 18 years old? You also seem to ignore the great European players like Dirk, Porzingis, Jokic etc only selectably picking the bad examples
Completely agree, they are so desperate for the first white superstar player since Larry Bird
ummm.. Dirk nowitzki sounds familiar?
Luka is not special. He will be darko 2.0
based on what? He looks more like Hedo Turkoglu at worse to me. He plays nothing like Darko. At least compare him to someone with the same skill set.
Shit take bro
You sound dumb
Hmmm...multiple Euroleague MVPs and a Euroleague championship where he was also the MVP. All around good game, custom-made for the current NBA in fact, and only improving every year. Oh, and he just turned 19. Yeah, sounds just like Darko.....
Jason Moquin yeah he has skill but he isn’t a very good athlete for a sf... if he is suppose to be in debate for the number 1 pick he has to to have all nba potential. I don’t think he does. I think he is a 2nd tier star at best