I remember one of my earlier encounters against the Grant. It was Al Har invasion, I was defending. I was sitting in my AB41 watching the main street for the first objective when over the swell of the hill, I see a turret. I could not see the turret very clearly so at first I thought it was an A13. Then the turret started rising. And it kept rising. It was such an amazing "oh sh*t" moment.
The inconsistencies with ammo rack detonation seems to be present in Moscow and Normandy (at least with the Suart). Sometimes the tank will immediately explode on the first hit to the ammo rack, other times it takes multiple hits. I find that if the little segment of the ammunition rack you are attempting to detonate does not go up on two or three hits, you are probably better off shifting your aim a little bit over to the next segment. (Although I never really do this in battle, because I rarely have to opportunity to take my time and pinpoint specific points) I think that something is messed up with the spalling done by the two pounder. There is virtually no spalling, meaning that in order to kill the crew, the projectile has to hit them directly. Even the 37mm on the Stuart had some spalling, enough that a penetrating hit on a Puma would probably do something.
Consistency of the ammo racks is so poor I've taken to flanking opponents using the Daimler and going for crew shots. At least crew die when you shoot them.
Can also shoot the curved front plate and that will either set it on fire or blow up the fuel and kill crew, or over the back wheel from the side, the wheel arch can be penned by the a13s machine gun and the rear too, you can shoot between the tracks under the turret to ammo rack the m14, both the m14 and semovente can be easily set on fire by by side shots to the thinner back sections that hold the engine
Yeah, at least from my testing in the practice area, I have found that the A13 can set Italian tanks on fire pretty reliably with one or two good shots to the engine deck and two or three will completely destroy the engine block, making the crew choose between bailing out or fighting a last stand. This really seems to play into the idea that head on tank engagements are not ideal in Tunisia.
Weak point sides and flat spots (it would help if the guns were consistent and it's actually anoying) that's my philosophy in enlisted and warthunder and it's day m ler sorry if it's nit picking . But yeah eventually you won't need to even know the weekspots if you know the gun it becomes muscle memory
Thank you a lot for this video. It's made a massive difference in defeating the AB-41's. I'm not certain if it's just this knowledge or if they did an update/fix to the damage models in the 2-3 weeks I didn't play but it feels like i'm wrecking them just fine now! Though I do much prefer plane-bombing tanks now than tank vs tank-ing. That allied plane with the two 100lb'ers and the one 1000lb'er is excellent for anti-tank and due to the speed of the AB-41 it makes it more challenging And fun to try and nail them as they're on the move, the only downside to it is that low 180 rounds of 12.7 ammo. But it's a bomber in the end so you know, not a big deal. I know I've praised it before but man do I love that new update! I can fly all day and not feel like a total troll since I'm honestly more effective focusing on tanks than infantry now which means I'm playing as vehicle vs vehicle rather than vehicle vs 20 ground troops that can't do sh*t to stop me. I won't say I didn't totally bomb like crazy beforehand, at least until I leveled the campaign to unlock the things I most wanted, but it feels so much more balanced now. Killing like 2-3, maybe 5 is more the average for a good bomb drop now. The best I've ever done since the update, in Tunisia anyhow which is all I'm playing atm, is two times I managed 11 kills, just twice, and they were clustered like idiots in a nice clear open field. No more dropping on an objective house and blasting like 15 people you didn't even SEE. Back to tanks though i'm finding I enjoy the Tunisia tank gameplay quite a lot. At first the lower armor values bothered me but overall it's kind of nice, it feels like the earlier levels of games like WarThunder when things feel a bit more survivable. I might lose a crew member or two and take some damage from a hit but rarely does a one shot come out of nowhere.. well except for that Axis tank with the APHE, that thing can slap you hard, but it's MGs suck so bad for infantry I think most people are opting for the AB-41 just so they have a working machine gun that's not welded in place. Hope you keep playing and making videos for awhile to come bud. I enjoy them and find them useful to learn new tactics. Somewhat from watching what you do and figuring other skilled players will do that and coming up with ways to counter that that don't involve faster aiming/shooting skill as that's just not where I excel. Not terrible at it but I can only grip a mouse tight and react quickly for so long before my hands give up on me and I have to take a break, but I can drive a tank or fly a plane all day as it's a much more relaxed and slower pace.
@@Drippum Considering that the models in game are accurate enough to the real things no, they really weren't that bad, the italians held against the allies way better than anyone thinks, but the allies caught up to them quickly and italy couldn't sustain development or production of better tanks.
@@CaptainGrief66 well I'm not saying that the Italians were terrible, their tactics and warfare was exceptional, it's just that the tanks weren't the most modern during ww2, they were kind of behind like you said.
@@Drippum The tanks suffered from delayed development and deployment, also to Germany's fault in some occasions, but vehicles that didn't have those issues caused real trouble to the allies, the italian TD's and their ambush tactics greatly dimished moral and forced the british to completely scrap their older tanks and to gain control of the skies, what we see in the game isn't too far from reality, with the exception that italy had HEAT, APCR and HESH ammunition (more or less) at their disposal, even an older M13/40 was able to defeat an M4 sherman or Matilda II with its HEAT rounds, also the italian infantry had better equipment than a PzB-38, like the S-18-1000 or Scotti AT rifles
Did they remove HE insta-kills for PUMAs? I haven't been able to get any since the most recent patches. I'm totally fine if they did, as it was really cheap and must frustrate so many new low level players. THANK YOU for yet another really detailed, entertaining and well made video. You are easily and by far the best Enlisted youtuber. 👍
the thing is if they use them same mechanic like on warthunder, hitting the ammo rack will not always make it explode but there's a high chance to make it explode not always
It's much, much lower than in WT. The spalling in Enlisted is also substantially lacking, so the post pen damage on AP rounds is super screwed up and it's very difficult to knock out tanks
Ammo racks on AB14 are completely RNG. I could hit ammo 1 time and it goes up. Other times at test range I will fire 5+ rounds into that same spot your shooting or side ammo racks and all I’m getting is red/yellow damage.
War thunder players starting enlisted be like: *Infatry* "this is great" *tanks* "but i like this better" Btw its pronounced Dame - ler Just search for daimler Bovington and listen to them Great video for people who havent played war thunder and wouldn't know how most of the mechanics work (i still have tears of agony after grinding britain for first nation played (ok not so much grinding, teir 1 was a walk in the park) and would like to say i know a fair bit)
Doesn't show to to kill sherman, suss, unless they weren't added, well to do that, with pak gun, head on you can shoot its neck, the piece between turret and chassis. side you hit ammo rack near front side of tank.
Is it just me not knowing when to shoot or is there anyone else that also thinks AB41 is the worst vehicle in the campaign? I mean, when I was playing it, I wasn't able to penetrate anything. I had literally one tank kill untill I got the M13 or however it's called (the light tank). And when I occasionally play Allies and meet an AB41 in the A13, they can't penetrate me as well.
The AB41 is pretty strong actually, don't know what you're talking about, the Cruisers only have 14mm of turret armor, the Mod. 35 Armor Piercing have 40mm of penetration, shoot the right cheek of the A13 Mk.II and it kills the gunner, do it again then shoot the driver and you've got a kill, maybe you've been shooting at too much of an angle or something
@@CaptainGrief66 When I played it I've encountered the A13 a lot and I shot at it whenever the indicator was green. I've destroyed one A13 by killing the crew inside and it took me one magazine per tanker except the first one which took two to kill. Usually I got blasted by one or two shoots after I shot about two magazines into supposedly thinn enough armor. And now I have the M13 and I destroy every A13 in up to 2-3 shots.
@@CaptainGrief66 Idk, maybe not, all I know is that I was shooting when the penetration indicator was green. I was shooting both into the hull and the turret.
The ammo racks on the Italian vehicles are mostly impossible to detonate with the Boys ATR too. I've taken to just tracking them then flanking as it rarely makes it through with crew shots for me
The fucking tanks in this game are made if jelly man why does the gun wiggle 😂 like im used to it now but its still such an awkward and weird way of doing things
Taking out crew is not as effective in Enlisted as it is in War Thunder because seat swap speed is less than 5 seconds. That, combined with poor post pen damage and increased health on crew members makes taking out crew not always the best choice
So because I come from play war thunder what I can tell when it comes to tanks is that for default every tank gun in game does less damage than it should. Tank ammo types that you get for your vehicle could be what is consider the stock shell or maybe one that isn't as good as other types. They won't give you the most powerful round. I have notice that on training without crew members tank damage is really odd maybe because it detect not crew and such. If you go to war thunder and check the damage module with many shots that are used in enlisted. Tank should die, etc. Maybe for some sort of fighting chance back and such it has been altered.
@@HeyQuadro I do agree with you about it being fine it being less lethal, but as you said it still needs some better work around as things aare funky. There is at time in WT in which ammo won't detonate that easily I am not sure why. Maybe specific model, ammo wetting, etc. I do hope to see and curious to see how they tweak it further though. Also I enjoy the videos, keep the good work. I know is already lot to do. And if I could comment something. I would be interested in the new premium squds for mosco and other campaigns that have been added and such too.
You can pen AB41 armor with tank mg. If you shoot from side it takes like 5 mg rounds at ammo rack to destroy AB41.
oooo ye ye forgot to mention that
Italy suffers ;)
@@biko9824 Me getting a 67 kills first game by using 20mm as a machine gun "are you sure about that"
I remember one of my earlier encounters against the Grant. It was Al Har invasion, I was defending. I was sitting in my AB41 watching the main street for the first objective when over the swell of the hill, I see a turret. I could not see the turret very clearly so at first I thought it was an A13. Then the turret started rising. And it kept rising. It was such an amazing "oh sh*t" moment.
The inconsistencies with ammo rack detonation seems to be present in Moscow and Normandy (at least with the Suart). Sometimes the tank will immediately explode on the first hit to the ammo rack, other times it takes multiple hits. I find that if the little segment of the ammunition rack you are attempting to detonate does not go up on two or three hits, you are probably better off shifting your aim a little bit over to the next segment. (Although I never really do this in battle, because I rarely have to opportunity to take my time and pinpoint specific points)
I think that something is messed up with the spalling done by the two pounder. There is virtually no spalling, meaning that in order to kill the crew, the projectile has to hit them directly. Even the 37mm on the Stuart had some spalling, enough that a penetrating hit on a Puma would probably do something.
Consistency of the ammo racks is so poor I've taken to flanking opponents using the Daimler and going for crew shots. At least crew die when you shoot them.
except for AB41 driver as he has magical plate in his vision port that eats AP rounds.
I was watching your stream during drops and recomended this video. Thanks again gamer
Hahahah I was just searching for this, thanks man.
Thanks Quad, much appreciated. Will put this to use!
Can also shoot the curved front plate and that will either set it on fire or blow up the fuel and kill crew, or over the back wheel from the side, the wheel arch can be penned by the a13s machine gun and the rear too, you can shoot between the tracks under the turret to ammo rack the m14, both the m14 and semovente can be easily set on fire by by side shots to the thinner back sections that hold the engine
Yeah, at least from my testing in the practice area, I have found that the A13 can set Italian tanks on fire pretty reliably with one or two good shots to the engine deck and two or three will completely destroy the engine block, making the crew choose between bailing out or fighting a last stand. This really seems to play into the idea that head on tank engagements are not ideal in Tunisia.
Weak point sides and flat spots (it would help if the guns were consistent and it's actually anoying) that's my philosophy in enlisted and warthunder and it's
day m ler sorry if it's nit picking . But yeah eventually you won't need to even know the weekspots if you know the gun it becomes muscle memory
Thank you a lot for this video. It's made a massive difference in defeating the AB-41's. I'm not certain if it's just this knowledge or if they did an update/fix to the damage models in the 2-3 weeks I didn't play but it feels like i'm wrecking them just fine now! Though I do much prefer plane-bombing tanks now than tank vs tank-ing. That allied plane with the two 100lb'ers and the one 1000lb'er is excellent for anti-tank and due to the speed of the AB-41 it makes it more challenging And fun to try and nail them as they're on the move, the only downside to it is that low 180 rounds of 12.7 ammo. But it's a bomber in the end so you know, not a big deal.
I know I've praised it before but man do I love that new update! I can fly all day and not feel like a total troll since I'm honestly more effective focusing on tanks than infantry now which means I'm playing as vehicle vs vehicle rather than vehicle vs 20 ground troops that can't do sh*t to stop me. I won't say I didn't totally bomb like crazy beforehand, at least until I leveled the campaign to unlock the things I most wanted, but it feels so much more balanced now. Killing like 2-3, maybe 5 is more the average for a good bomb drop now. The best I've ever done since the update, in Tunisia anyhow which is all I'm playing atm, is two times I managed 11 kills, just twice, and they were clustered like idiots in a nice clear open field. No more dropping on an objective house and blasting like 15 people you didn't even SEE.
Back to tanks though i'm finding I enjoy the Tunisia tank gameplay quite a lot. At first the lower armor values bothered me but overall it's kind of nice, it feels like the earlier levels of games like WarThunder when things feel a bit more survivable. I might lose a crew member or two and take some damage from a hit but rarely does a one shot come out of nowhere.. well except for that Axis tank with the APHE, that thing can slap you hard, but it's MGs suck so bad for infantry I think most people are opting for the AB-41 just so they have a working machine gun that's not welded in place.
Hope you keep playing and making videos for awhile to come bud. I enjoy them and find them useful to learn new tactics. Somewhat from watching what you do and figuring other skilled players will do that and coming up with ways to counter that that don't involve faster aiming/shooting skill as that's just not where I excel. Not terrible at it but I can only grip a mouse tight and react quickly for so long before my hands give up on me and I have to take a break, but I can drive a tank or fly a plane all day as it's a much more relaxed and slower pace.
What's up quadro! I'm hyped cause I found out enlisted is on ps4! Can't wait to play the game soon after it's downloaded
the tank to tank combat in this game is so weak bc of the bad damaging model :(
Nah bro ur just bad
These axis tanks seem like they are inviceable even when shooting in the right place, do you think they will fix it?
It's funny because in reality Italian tanks were absolute dogwater against the british/allied tanks.
@@Drippum the round is a solid shot no HE filler, these solid shot rounds are not spalling correctly. Should shotgun blast the whole crew dead.
@@Drippum
Considering that the models in game are accurate enough to the real things no, they really weren't that bad, the italians held against the allies way better than anyone thinks, but the allies caught up to them quickly and italy couldn't sustain development or production of better tanks.
@@CaptainGrief66 well I'm not saying that the Italians were terrible, their tactics and warfare was exceptional, it's just that the tanks weren't the most modern during ww2, they were kind of behind like you said.
@@Drippum
The tanks suffered from delayed development and deployment, also to Germany's fault in some occasions, but vehicles that didn't have those issues caused real trouble to the allies, the italian TD's and their ambush tactics greatly dimished moral and forced the british to completely scrap their older tanks and to gain control of the skies, what we see in the game isn't too far from reality, with the exception that italy had HEAT, APCR and HESH ammunition (more or less) at their disposal, even an older M13/40 was able to defeat an M4 sherman or Matilda II with its HEAT rounds, also the italian infantry had better equipment than a PzB-38, like the S-18-1000 or Scotti AT rifles
Above 3rd wheel from the front of the grant is the ammo.
If you are lucky enough to catch it side on.
Did they remove HE insta-kills for PUMAs? I haven't been able to get any since the most recent patches.
I'm totally fine if they did, as it was really cheap and must frustrate so many new low level players.
THANK YOU for yet another really detailed, entertaining and well made video. You are easily and by far the best Enlisted youtuber. 👍
Sadly it's still insta kill on pumas to this day
finallyyyy
Thanks for the vid, this helps a lot
the thing is if they use them same mechanic like on warthunder, hitting the ammo rack will not always make it explode but there's a high chance to make it explode not always
It's much, much lower than in WT. The spalling in Enlisted is also substantially lacking, so the post pen damage on AP rounds is super screwed up and it's very difficult to knock out tanks
@@HeyQuadro good to know thanks...
@@HeyQuadro The spalling on the 2 pounder seems especially lacking
@@ericamborsky3230 it definitely is
Ammo racks on AB14 are completely RNG. I could hit ammo 1 time and it goes up. Other times at test range I will fire 5+ rounds into that same spot your shooting or side ammo racks and all I’m getting is red/yellow damage.
War thunder players starting enlisted be like:
*Infatry* "this is great"
*tanks* "but i like this better"
Btw its pronounced Dame - ler
Just search for daimler Bovington and listen to them
Great video for people who havent played war thunder and wouldn't know how most of the mechanics work
(i still have tears of agony after grinding britain for first nation played (ok not so much grinding, teir 1 was a walk in the park) and would like to say i know a fair bit)
Doesn't show to to kill sherman, suss, unless they weren't added, well to do that, with pak gun, head on you can shoot its neck, the piece between turret and chassis. side you hit ammo rack near front side of tank.
Man i hope i get tp piat soon. Atr doesn't do much to the tank :(
no theyre really bad unfortunately
Nice Video
Is it just me not knowing when to shoot or is there anyone else that also thinks AB41 is the worst vehicle in the campaign?
I mean, when I was playing it, I wasn't able to penetrate anything. I had literally one tank kill untill I got the M13 or however it's called (the light tank). And when I occasionally play Allies and meet an AB41 in the A13, they can't penetrate me as well.
The AB41 is pretty strong actually, don't know what you're talking about, the Cruisers only have 14mm of turret armor, the Mod. 35 Armor Piercing have 40mm of penetration, shoot the right cheek of the A13 Mk.II and it kills the gunner, do it again then shoot the driver and you've got a kill, maybe you've been shooting at too much of an angle or something
@@CaptainGrief66 When I played it I've encountered the A13 a lot and I shot at it whenever the indicator was green. I've destroyed one A13 by killing the crew inside and it took me one magazine per tanker except the first one which took two to kill. Usually I got blasted by one or two shoots after I shot about two magazines into supposedly thinn enough armor. And now I have the M13 and I destroy every A13 in up to 2-3 shots.
@@olekzajac5948
It only takes about five rounds to take out a Cruiser Mk II, you sure you're hitting the right spots man?
@@CaptainGrief66 Idk, maybe not, all I know is that I was shooting when the penetration indicator was green. I was shooting both into the hull and the turret.
The ammo racks on the Italian vehicles are mostly impossible to detonate with the Boys ATR too. I've taken to just tracking them then flanking as it rarely makes it through with crew shots for me
for me a axis player same thing , try to get as close as possible the first ATR sucks
It's because the enemy tank is at an angle it why you don't blow it up
hey quadbro..... show us how to dogfight against ally planes with axis planes. Good Luck.
where is our review about the STG43 and the panther
with me at level 20 normandy axis
What about the school bus???? D:
The fucking tanks in this game are made if jelly man why does the gun wiggle 😂 like im used to it now but its still such an awkward and weird way of doing things
Yeah its super annoying. Your track is on a tiny pebble and suddenly your barrel is at a night club
Its dayyyymler lmao
VIDEO FOR COMING BACK PLAYERS PLSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSS!!!
they look pretty stupid to me
dumb video , priority target is crew compartment , your firing on empty tanks that always blow up on the second shot regardless of shot placement
Taking out crew is not as effective in Enlisted as it is in War Thunder because seat swap speed is less than 5 seconds. That, combined with poor post pen damage and increased health on crew members makes taking out crew not always the best choice
first time I've heard someone say priority target is crew, always aim for ammo
@@HeyQuadro miss ammo like you did in video and you get shot , shoot crew and you live
@@daniel_cvlh1761 less reliable to fire and miss on ammo
So because I come from play war thunder what I can tell when it comes to tanks is that for default every tank gun in game does less damage than it should.
Tank ammo types that you get for your vehicle could be what is consider the stock shell or maybe one that isn't as good as other types. They won't give you the most powerful round.
I have notice that on training without crew members tank damage is really odd maybe because it detect not crew and such. If you go to war thunder and check the damage module with many shots that are used in enlisted. Tank should die, etc. Maybe for some sort of fighting chance back and such it has been altered.
Yeah they 100% are different. Im okay with it being slightly less lethal than WT but it's really rough right now
@@HeyQuadro I do agree with you about it being fine it being less lethal, but as you said it still needs some better work around as things aare funky. There is at time in WT in which ammo won't detonate that easily I am not sure why. Maybe specific model, ammo wetting, etc. I do hope to see and curious to see how they tweak it further though. Also I enjoy the videos, keep the good work. I know is already lot to do. And if I could comment something. I would be interested in the new premium squds for mosco and other campaigns that have been added and such too.
Why does no one ever go for the gas tank