For those that are looking for a link I apologize as all links have an expiration. Just note that if you do a search for a 168 LED that you will find this blade style LED. Many now have more SMD LEDs per bulb than the ones I tried so even brighter I suspect than my result. SMD = Surface mount device. For example, the following ebay link, which also is sure to expire, has 20 surface mount LEDs per single bulb! I think mine at the time were only 5. www.ebay.com/itm/Jtech-10x-T10-20-SMD-LED-Bulb-Super-Bright-White-Interior-Light-194-168-2825-W5W/123122707836?epid=785075831&hash=item1caaaf6d7c:g:w18AAOSwaBhdffQC
Great video! Very thorough and even updated us with links. Most definitely subbing! Quick question so i can only find the 10x led 194s without the sockets.. u wouldnt possibly be able to steer me in the right direction for the sockets i need could you? Id greatly appreciate it!
I did a 1987 Monte Carlo gauges I use the blue on the tack .blue on the speedometer and I used a bright white for the 4 main gauges an this lit it up bright and they don't get hot .
Thanks for asking and Unfortunately no. The way the potentiometer is structured for incandescent lights is why this is happening. I can still dim it but not in as linear of a fashion as the incandescent bulbs.
Hi how did you get the turn signals to blink and what kind of leds did you use I have a 1985 caprice classic did you use a different turn signal flasher?
My 87 el camino dash lights aren't working. I hope it's just the bulbs. Going to take apart soon and see what's going on with it. thanks for the video. My tach is reading higher than it should also. Any idea what is causing that?
My Pleasure. Regarding your tach not reading correctly, please have a look at this post for a known issue that you are describing along with a fix. I hope this helps. www.montecarloss.com/community/ubbthreads.php?ubb=showflat&Number=646206
Good observation.. I did replace it with an LED flasher and it works perfect.... I had to reverse the leads on the LED flasher per this instruction and this image digi-tails.com/sites/default/files/instructions/Flasher%20instructions.pdf , as it was keyed wrong for the LED flasher. This is not uncommon for our cars as a mechanical flasher does not matter. I did not buy the one here but rather purchased this one on ebay.. CF12ANL01 LED Flasher Relay Fix Hyper Flash Turn Signal Decoder Load Equalizers r.ebay.com/bZeMZU
@@dalehall2993 damn I wasnt expecting to get a reply from a comment posted 3 years ago, but yeah I hope so, I'm probably gonna end up going with a dakota digital dash down the line in my Diablo, it's got the granny horizontal speedometer, and no tach.
Did you have to use the sockets that came with those led bulbs, when you installed them to the cluster. Just wondering if I need to make sure I get those with the led bulbs when I order them. Thanks
Hi what kind of the 194 led bulbs did you used for the turn signals to blink I been trying to get my turn signals to work for my 1985 caprice classic but it didn't blink at all same thing with the hazards it would just stay on solid in the instrument cluster
Hi Mondotti, you said you have an 86 SS and I notice you have a 115 mph gauge plate. I was wondering how you changed it out and if you had to calibrate the speedo at all? Thanks
Please refer to this video for access to and replacement. th-cam.com/video/mNAXQZL2YL4/w-d-xo.html. If you are swapping from an 87 to an 86 and are NOT changing tires or transmission then no calibration is necessary. For me, since I did both, it was a matter of selecting a Speedo drive gear ( installed in transmission tail housing and driven off of output shaft). I hope this helps.
The LED replacements work for the 168, 194 and others in this package type. Here’s a link to deal on Amazon for the 5050 chipset that should work perfectly for our cars.. www.amazon.com/Alopee-White-Interior-Lights-Courtesy/dp/B0182FMWKU/ref=mp_s_a_1_17?crid=42R585LRHR2S&keywords=194+led+bulb&qid=1690345651&sprefix=%2Caps%2C328&sr=8-17
Not off the top of my head. I simply used a DVM with the headlights on to determine the 12v+ output pin on car side. Translated this to bezel and soldered leads to power with my DC power supply. What I would suggest you do would be to leave the sub bezel plugged in to your car as you can still access the lamps and test one by one after replacing. I hope this helps.
If I were you, I wouldn’t mess with trying to power it up outside of the car like I did for demonstration purposes. Just position the shell back on to the vehicle connection. If you want to test it’s easy enough to pop on and off as you’re testing the connections of the lamps
Additionally, It’s a little tricky, but you can even replace them without removing that bezel. I’ve done it, but you risk them falling down. While I removed for demonstration purposes I also removed the bezel to clean the contacts on each side.
Hello sir can you help? 81 monte carlo. I changed my speedo cable. All my light were working fine then all of a sudden more then half went out. I checked all bulbs and fuses there all good what can be the problem?? Thanks for the video
I made some measurements on the Car side with my volt meter to see where 12v came in to the cluster. With this understanding, I soldered two temporary wires to test the cluster. One for 12v the other for ground. I hope this helps.
I have a 1985 Monte Carlo and is currently having the same problem, the only lights that work in my gauges are the clock and temp light, besides that, no other gauge lights work. I would like my gauges lights to a bit brighter than yours, any recommendations? Thanks!
Hi. These links expire extremely fast. What you should do is go to Amazon and type 194 led bulb. Then they have filters for specific vehicle applications. I typed in my year SS and got the following below.. But don’t expect it to last… www.amazon.com/Marsauto-Replacement-Courtesy-License-Lights/dp/B079L3WBDN/ref=mp_s_a_1_5?crid=V0RN8FP36D9F&keywords=led+94+bulb&qid=1645033886&sprefix=led+94%2Caps%2C254&sr=1-5&vehicle=1986-47-470-492--7-8-7-1438-646-1-2-1775--1&vehicleName=1986+Chevrolet+Monte+Carlo
Here is another but again please understand that these links expire quickly so as suggested use the search engine in Amazon along with the application filter for your car as I did. This link is for the 194 LED bulb for my 1986 Monte Carlo SS that also has the sockets included. Just for clarity the sockets are not needed but some of them may be brittle and break due to the heat exposure overtime so nice to have if you need them but was not necessary for my application. www.amazon.com/10Pack-Instrument-Cluster-Dashboard-Automotive/dp/B099RPJHK9/ref=mp_s_a_1_4?crid=38WWNREO6TCMJ&keywords=led+94+bulb+socket&qid=1645917164&sprefix=led+94+bulb+socket%2Caps%2C269&sr=8-4
Excellent video my 87 SS has the same problem. I just ordered my LEDs to do the swap. Thanks.
For those that are looking for a link I apologize as all links have an expiration. Just note that if you do a search for a 168 LED that you will find this blade style LED. Many now have more SMD LEDs per bulb than the ones I tried so even brighter I suspect than my result. SMD = Surface mount device. For example, the following ebay link, which also is sure to expire, has 20 surface mount LEDs per single bulb! I think mine at the time were only 5. www.ebay.com/itm/Jtech-10x-T10-20-SMD-LED-Bulb-Super-Bright-White-Interior-Light-194-168-2825-W5W/123122707836?epid=785075831&hash=item1caaaf6d7c:g:w18AAOSwaBhdffQC
Great video! Very thorough and even updated us with links. Most definitely subbing! Quick question so i can only find the 10x led 194s without the sockets.. u wouldnt possibly be able to steer me in the right direction for the sockets i need could you? Id greatly appreciate it!
I did a 1987 Monte Carlo gauges I use the blue on the tack .blue on the speedometer and I used a bright white for the 4 main gauges an this lit it up bright and they don't get hot .
Thanks for this video. A common problem for most of us for sure.
How are they holding up ? I'm worried these inexpensive bulbs might not last.
Thanks
No problems at all.. They work great!
You were wondering about the dimmer being faulty...did you get that figured out and were you able to dim the LEDs more?
Thanks for asking and Unfortunately no. The way the potentiometer is structured for incandescent lights is why this is happening. I can still dim it but not in as linear of a fashion as the incandescent bulbs.
To be clear I did purchase a brand new dimmer and it made no difference so do not waste your money trying.
Yeah I noticed when I put them in thanks
Hi how did you get the turn signals to blink and what kind of leds did you use I have a 1985 caprice classic did you use a different turn signal flasher?
I hate to bother you I was looking for one of these kits couldn't find one could u send me a link , I like your video most helpful
Does anybody know anybody out there that can adjust windows you get them to sit flush in the weather stripping I'm in New York
Yes open up door panel and Mr they have video of it
The weight of the doors is ridiculous that wears out the hinges and doors start to sag and not line up anymore..
I want to update my guages as well in my 86 monte carlo ss ...thinks for the video bro
I replaced them in my 86 monte carlo Ls work great✌
Glad to hear! Your battery and alternator will thank you as well. :)
My 87 el camino dash lights aren't working. I hope it's just the bulbs. Going to take apart soon and see what's going on with it. thanks for the video. My tach is reading higher than it should also. Any idea what is causing that?
My Pleasure. Regarding your tach not reading correctly, please have a look at this post for a known issue that you are describing along with a fix. I hope this helps. www.montecarloss.com/community/ubbthreads.php?ubb=showflat&Number=646206
Directional flash rate slow. Different flasher needed?
Good observation.. I did replace it with an LED flasher and it works perfect.... I had to reverse the leads on the LED flasher per this instruction and this image digi-tails.com/sites/default/files/instructions/Flasher%20instructions.pdf , as it was keyed wrong for the LED flasher. This is not uncommon for our cars as a mechanical flasher does not matter. I did not buy the one here but rather purchased this one on ebay.. CF12ANL01 LED Flasher Relay Fix Hyper Flash Turn Signal Decoder Load Equalizers r.ebay.com/bZeMZU
Dakota digital....look them up!!
Soooooo expensive though
@@TheHalomaster2000
But worth every penny.
@@dalehall2993 damn I wasnt expecting to get a reply from a comment posted 3 years ago, but yeah I hope so, I'm probably gonna end up going with a dakota digital dash down the line in my Diablo, it's got the granny horizontal speedometer, and no tach.
Did you have to use the sockets that came with those led bulbs, when you installed them to the cluster. Just wondering if I need to make sure I get those with the led bulbs when I order them.
Thanks
Hi what kind of the 194 led bulbs did you used for the turn signals to blink I been trying to get my turn signals to work for my 1985 caprice classic but it didn't blink at all same thing with the hazards it would just stay on solid in the instrument cluster
Hi Mondotti, you said you have an 86 SS and I notice you have a 115 mph gauge plate. I was wondering how you changed it out and if you had to calibrate the speedo at all? Thanks
Please refer to this video for access to and replacement. th-cam.com/video/mNAXQZL2YL4/w-d-xo.html. If you are swapping from an 87 to an 86 and are NOT changing tires or transmission then no calibration is necessary. For me, since I did both, it was a matter of selecting a Speedo drive gear ( installed in transmission tail housing and driven off of output shaft). I hope this helps.
The 168 LED will work with the turn signals ?
The LED replacements work for the 168, 194 and others in this package type. Here’s a link to deal on Amazon for the 5050 chipset that should work perfectly for our cars.. www.amazon.com/Alopee-White-Interior-Lights-Courtesy/dp/B0182FMWKU/ref=mp_s_a_1_17?crid=42R585LRHR2S&keywords=194+led+bulb&qid=1690345651&sprefix=%2Caps%2C328&sr=8-17
Did all the lights turn on behind the gauges? It looked like the ones behind the speedometer did not?
Yes they do. It just appears this way due to the way the indirect or reflective lighting works in this application..
Can you tell me which connections on the rear of the cluster i connect 12V + and _ to so i can check my bulbs ? thanks
Not off the top of my head. I simply used a DVM with the headlights on to determine the 12v+ output pin on car side. Translated this to bezel and soldered leads to power with my DC power supply. What I would suggest you do would be to leave the sub bezel plugged in to your car as you can still access the lamps and test one by one after replacing. I hope this helps.
How did you get the MPH gauge out I took mines out but I ran into some issues when it comes to that part
GREAT VIDEO THANK YOU
My pleasure!
Mike’s Montes sell a brighter bulb #2825s to replace the #168s, anybody use these? Are they too hot? How many does the car take?
The original incandescent lights in general produced too much heat. This replacement will not reduce this.
Could I use a 12 volt car battery to test as I don’t have a table regulator
If I were you, I wouldn’t mess with trying to power it up outside of the car like I did for demonstration purposes. Just position the shell back on to the vehicle connection. If you want to test it’s easy enough to pop on and off as you’re testing the connections of the lamps
Additionally, It’s a little tricky, but you can even replace them without removing that bezel. I’ve done it, but you risk them falling down. While I removed for demonstration purposes I also removed the bezel to clean the contacts on each side.
Hello sir can you help? 81 monte carlo. I changed my speedo cable. All my light were working fine then all of a sudden more then half went out. I checked all bulbs and fuses there all good what can be the problem?? Thanks for the video
Albert Jones the problem is behind the cluster. The pin connector. It's not making contact.
thanks for the info i have an 88 ss and at to see my gas gauge at night I have to pull up my cell phone, whats the part number to order?
Hi, I put the link to the kit on ebay at the top in the notes.
Thanks!
My pleasure!
what did you hook up to bench test the cluster lighting? the pin connector?
I made some measurements on the Car side with my volt meter to see where 12v came in to the cluster. With this understanding, I soldered two temporary wires to test the cluster. One for 12v the other for ground. I hope this helps.
Or use the car battery with alligator clips and leads
I like this
I have a 1985 Monte Carlo and is currently having the same problem, the only lights that work in my gauges are the clock and temp light, besides that, no other gauge lights work. I would like my gauges lights to a bit brighter than yours, any recommendations? Thanks!
Can you post the link for the lights again?
Hi. These links expire extremely fast. What you should do is go to Amazon and type 194 led bulb. Then they have filters for specific vehicle applications. I typed in my year SS and got the following below.. But don’t expect it to last… www.amazon.com/Marsauto-Replacement-Courtesy-License-Lights/dp/B079L3WBDN/ref=mp_s_a_1_5?crid=V0RN8FP36D9F&keywords=led+94+bulb&qid=1645033886&sprefix=led+94%2Caps%2C254&sr=1-5&vehicle=1986-47-470-492--7-8-7-1438-646-1-2-1775--1&vehicleName=1986+Chevrolet+Monte+Carlo
Here is another but again please understand that these links expire quickly so as suggested use the search engine in Amazon along with the application filter for your car as I did. This link is for the 194 LED bulb for my 1986 Monte Carlo SS that also has the sockets included. Just for clarity the sockets are not needed but some of them may be brittle and break due to the heat exposure overtime so nice to have if you need them but was not necessary for my application. www.amazon.com/10Pack-Instrument-Cluster-Dashboard-Automotive/dp/B099RPJHK9/ref=mp_s_a_1_4?crid=38WWNREO6TCMJ&keywords=led+94+bulb+socket&qid=1645917164&sprefix=led+94+bulb+socket%2Caps%2C269&sr=8-4
@@mondottimondotti7318 man, I really appreciate the updated links! just ordered these from your link.
When I turn the left turn signal on my 85 monte its solid then when I turn the right turn signal on it flashes😂
Daniel Boshears it happens to my 85 Monte Carlo also is it a defection???😄
You need a flasher bro
Its still not bright enough
We’re all waiting for your solution
will it work for 88 MC Ss
From the schematic, I dont think it would be a problem.