It makes me wonder, because Code Geass has a white mech called the Lancelot, which later gets wings when it is upgraded to the Lancelot Albion. There has to be some reason that this connection keeps getting made in completely independent works.
Fun fact about melusine’s third form weapons. On her weapons, the writing says “Tychedight Albion”. Tyche is the Roman name for Fortuna which is the Greek goddess of luck. Dight comes from arondight. Tokei means clock in Japanese so it’s a double pun. In her np she says “From Geoffroy to Fromont. Show us the time, Tukeidight!” Her hour hand is called Geoffroy and her minute hand is called Fromont. (Geoffroy and Fromont were also the name of her children.) So in her np she’s essentially commanding tychedight to reveal the time. It’s a really cool np and all the details line up so well.
Regarding the name of her second skill, according to "Encyclopedia of Fairies: Hobgoblins, Brownies, Bogies and Other Supernatural Creatures" by Katharine Briggs, Perry Dancers is the Suffolk name for Aurora Borealis, so that association continues here.
@@NoMoreWhat-Ifs Something like that, Mordred have a grandma then. (Or an auntie). Artoria Avalon compares Melusine with Saber in some my room dialogues. (I guess in both Caster and Berserker version of Castoria).
Her weapon's are indeed clockhand, she has two and they have a name, one's Tukeidight Geoffroy and the other is Tukeidight Fromont, I remember her artist stating it
@@CrazyYurieer no, just search it, it should be on choco X page, with image attached, for some reason any comment mentioning T website or link gets deleted
You know by this point after doing my own research and asking opinions of other content creators I am convinced that the Melusines in Genshin are more so based on Meluko than that of the myth version. In terms of origin at least .
It is indeed meant to represent the native population of Britain, and by extension King Arthur. The White was meant to represent the Savon invaders and their puppet, Vortigern.
Fun fact: If you've played or seen Xenosaga you know KOS-MOS (short for: Kosmos Obey Strategical Multiple Operation System), one of CHOCO's earliest character creations & Melusine happens to look _VERY_ much like her, like a little sister almost. Especially if you look at KOS-MOS' design from Episode 3. Even their movesets are similar. They are also both insanely strong in both gameplay and lore so I am 100% convinced that he just wanted to put his favorite and most iconic character into FGO lmao
To complement: Melusine's design has elements that are also reminiscent of two Xenoblade 2's Blades: Praxis and Theory. As you must be imagining, both were created by CHOCO.
Might explain why I wound up liking Melusine so much. I love KOS-MOS, and Xenosaga is one of my favorite RPGs ever. Still sad to this day the series got cut short
@@alycatblues27 Same when I first saw Melusine I always felt she seemed so familiar till I realized CHOCO was the same artist who made KOS MOS. And here I am with every single artbook tangentially related to CHOCO. I love KOS MOS so much as a character from design to story and Melusine is the same. I heavy cope after XC3 Future Redeemed ending that it was KOS MOS floating down to earth.
I'll probably eventually try to 120 someone (likely Altera since she is my favorite Servant for sentimental reasons), but for right now, my goal in FGO is to eventually have a level 100 for every class. For the longest time, I was planning to make Scathach my 100 Lancer, but hadn't gotten around to it yet. Then when LB6 dropped, I decided to pull to try to get Sith since I really like her design, and I wound up pulling Melusine. Since then, I've slowly become more and more attached to her, to the point she has beaten out Scathach as my primary Lancer and will be my level 100 for that class. Something about her character just works so damn well. And as a side note: The Blackbeard faces censoring the nudity made me laugh out loud.
I actually really like Altera too. She's on my list of servants I'd like to do a video on. As is Scathach, for that matter. And yes, using Blackbeard as my nudity censor, especially with that expression, was something I thought up and have used a few times in earlier videos. You may be the first person to comment about it though!
The Albion bit is a stealth pun invoking Arthurian legend. While Albion refers to the island, its literal meaning is 'white'. Whether that refers to the mountain peaks, the white cliffs of dover, or something else is debated. Arthur is the red dragon. In Arthurian legend, he is explicitly affiliated with it as the embodiment of the prophecy of a native Briton king who would repel the recent Germanic invaders as the white dragon. In Nasuverse, Arthur's heart comes from Albion as the (Red) Dragon Reactor Core. While this is never directly invoked in Lostbelt 6, Artoria serves a similar tragic savior role and is directly opposed to Melusine as the other dragon who is principally white-colored in her faerie form. While the actual white dragon is Vortigern, Melusine is clearly enmeshed with this concept, if in a messy way.
As far as the Lancer class, notice her punches are all jabs and she throws a javelin for the hybrod variant of her Third Ascension NP. While her weapons are not physical spears (mostly), her attacks are functionally involve a lot of long-distance lunges, diving attacks, and stabbing motions, which opens up comparisons to a spearman.
Interestingly enough, Fate is not the only franchise linking Lancelot to dragons and Albion. The Code Geass anime series is a war drama/mecha series with the nation of Britannia having a lot of Arthurian themes in their mechs (called Knightmare frames). Early on in the series, their most advanced knightmare frame is the Lancelot, which later on gets upgraded to the Lancelot Albion. The Lancelot Albion gains a pair of energy wings, granting it the ability to fly.
@@CrazyYurie It can be pretty easy to forget or miss details like that. Heck, I only recently realized how fitting it was for the cat, which they named Arthur, to hate Suzaku, the pilot of Lancelot. I love it when small details like that get added in.
Albion as an Island I think also gets a link due to the forest... or was it a swamp that grows out of Albion's corpse and makes up part of Faerie Britain, itself composed of corpses.
If your familiar with Highschool DxD, there's also that rivalry between The Welsh Dragon against Albion. Thinking about that carefully, I wonder where the Japanese get that... when I watched the anime (and read the Light Novel subsequently) this is where I first heard of these two dragons. Especially noteworthy as DxD uses a lot of mythological figures. Hence me being surprised that Fate actually uses the same concept where Albion is a dragon instead of being a place. Re-iterating the question on where the Japanese ever got something like that?
Dang I don't even have anything to add, you hit all the points even some I haven't ever seen before like the clock motif I do think you made a good point all the tam lin have a final ascension that falls between their regular form and their calamity form (maybe only sorta with Boabhan Sith) 5000% isn't actually that uncommon for a star gather buff that actually matters, most ones that only have 3 digits don't always accomplish what they need I'm with you on the Raymond thing Albion being a dragon did crop up somewhere because it's in games all over the place but I'm with you I can't find an origin other than like you said a possible conflation with the white dragon of Arthurian legend Man going over her story is bringing all the memories back of LB6 we saved everyone we could there the best we could and we did do right by quite a few character Melusine included
5000% is common among Berserkers or Avengers, not Lancers. It makes Melusine's star gathering basically take from everyone else until she has 100% crit on everything. I'm ok with this though because I bring my Melusine out to delete things. XD
@@Fronswath I made sure to include a few in the video. For some reason, I forgot how utterly nuts Melusine can be. Getting those clips for the video reminded me... while also doing door farming and the new interludes. XD
Albion is a dragon thats basically as old as Earth, True Dragons grow more powerfull with age, so it's power is absolutely insane. If anything Melusine is underpowered. It's severed head is drilling it's way to the Reverse Side by glaring. It's corpse body distorts space to the point people can wind up at the Tomb of Albion by accident feom the other side of the world.
I now kinda want to see Melusine interact with Yugioh's Kisara aka the Maiden with Eyes of Blue now known as the White Maiden. One is the left hand of a legendary dragon while the other is the origin of a dragon of legend. Add in BOTW/TOTK Zelda and you have a trio of very interesting dragon ladies. One came from a legendary dragon, one is the origin of a legendary dragon, and one became a legendary dragon. The parallels kinda just work really well here.
The red dragon and the white dragon of Fate are both Albions. Think of them as two halves of the whole. Also, Albion technically is still the island of Britain seeing as how it represents the Will of Britain during the days of Vortigern and Artoria and has pretty much become one with the land.
6 m-m-million?!?!? Jokes aside I kinda expected a much lower grading despite everything and also there is a huge emphasis on a mechanical look that I don’t get but other than that I had no idea Starbucks was a melusine and imma think twice before drinking what used to be a mermaid
FGO seems to really be diving into the idea that some beings are more like machines than flesh and blood creatures, and that's probably what they were going with when they made Melusine. It's something that has been in the Fate dna since the original visual novel, particularly being aimed at people like Emiya Kiritsugu, Shirou and even Saber Arturia.
I know I’m a year late to this video but I’m sitting here thinking as to why Melusine is a lancer and I thought of something. Now this is only based off of arondight overload but the way she rushes down really reminds me of a jousting style attack and even the way she unsheathes her blades and converges it into 1 point seems like that’s the closest thing I could think of though (other than the obvious reason being that all they needed was a lancer)
I find it hilarious how you generally use melusine and today sei, who are my two favorite waifus in fgo. Melusine is my only servant above lv100 and sei is my only np5 ssr
Using Melusine to do expressions has kinda become my gimmick for these videos. But I had to choose someone else for the Melu video. I chose Sei because she's another character whose facial expressions I find amusing. I have thought about bringing Sei back to be the "host" for some future videos. :3
By the way the red and white dragon are also rappresentation of the Anglo and saxons which than u know the kingdom of England the kingdom of the Anglo and Saxon makes them one and the same dragon which than u know get the name albion cause well old name of Britain. I think that’s where the albion part comes from cause if u think about it following this explanation it makes sense
Personally i dont blame raymond if i and my wife are together long enough to have ten kids who grew to adulthood id wonder what is she hiding from me that for years she coudnt tell me like this isnt like three months this is 10 kids worth of years most of whom would be adults
The story of Melusine exists in a diffrent form also in Luxenburg, but there she was a Mermaid and noticed her husband peeking and jumped out the window into the lake.
Frankly I didn't expect much if any connection. So that they did take some inspiration actually is pretty cool. I like the touch with the island thing. Being a dragon in the fate-verse, but the remains forming an island in both the main universe and somewhat was well in the lost belt depiction. In the end I'm really happy with Melusine's depiction. Was an absolute treasure in that lost belt. Some tough times and that toxic relationship especially was difficult. But really came through in the very end. Design wise she was a total win. There's a lot of cool details mixed in there too. Especially easy to see from CHOCO's art book, but just in general when looking at her design. May not get a high score for historical accuracy. But this is one occasion where I'm all for the creative liberties.
Indeed. I focus these videos on accuracy to the original source material, but... as Shirou says, there's no rule saying a fake can't surpass the original. ;)
Ojalá TH-cam se los traduzca bien La razón del porque la forma dragón de Melusine es más mecánico que reptiliano se debe a que Melusine es una fan de los mecha, un diseño descartado de su tercera Ascencion es ella usando un traje de combate estilo iron man y Gundam, aunque esto fue dejado de lado y se le dio la forma semi dragon en su lugar, su forma dragón termina tomando el aspecto mecánico debido a su fanatismo por el género mecha (si Melusine es una Otaku/geek) de forma inconsciente después de asesinar a Aurora
Honestly, I feel like Melusine's Second Ascension (Melusine in casual clothes) should have been the First Ascension and the first one (Melusine in armor) should have been the Second Ascension. It would make more sense and would make the progression towards the Third Ascension more natural. Likewise, it wouldn't have been bad to have some black tints on the First Ascension (Melusine in armor) as a hint to her Third Ascension. And about the Third Ascension, perhaps some more draconic/reptilian aspects would have been nice to symbolize that Melusine has accepted her Dragon lineage. Either way, it's funny to think that Melusine was about to fall into hell when the final score was revealed (along with the fact that it was going to be a D), but was saved by her Lostbelt condition.
It wasn't just the Lostbelt bit. When I was thinking of a grade that low, it was also before I'd discovered that whole Lancelot-Melusine-Dragon connection.
My best guess would be that they just wanted to have the forms (of the 3 Tam Lin) be in the order of when you met them? A counter of that would be (the last forms) both Melusine and Sith.
She's actually following the same pattern as Saber Alter. Salter starts out fully armored and with her eyes covered by some sort of visor. Once you ascend her she loses the visor, and then for her final ascension she loses the armor entirely in favor of a more formal dress. The main difference between the two is that Melusine's facial covering is a spiritron dress, where Saber Alter's spiritron dress puts her in the biker outfit she had in the Shinjuku pseudo singularity.
@@CrazyYurie It's neat but flawed. I notice you haven't covered any of the Irish Servants yet, I just wrote something on my Blog you might find interesting. mithrandirolorin.blogspot.com/2024/05/cu-chulainn-scathach-and-medb-were.html
Another great video I love these, it’s really interesting to see what inspires servants (even if they don’t really match with real history) I’m not sure if you take suggestions or already have another video planned, but I would really like to see a video on barghest
Pointing out that the Fairy Knights are intentionally each of the Knight Classes just made me realize how much they all reflect each other. For all three, their first ascension is their knight form, their second ascension is their formal/party dresses, and their third ascension is what each ended up as at the end of LB6. There is a potential arguement to be made that their themeing is based off the primary colors, where Melusine is Blue, Baobhan is Red, and Barghest is Yellow (a bit of a stretch, since she dresses in red more often, but Gawain IS the knight of the Sun). Finally, each one is tied in some way to one of the calamities. Melusine is the Calamity of Fire, Barghest is the Calamity of Beasts, and from my understanding Baohban was going to be connected to Cernunnos' Priestess, the Calamity of Curses (you can hear her theme in the boss's ost).
Yeeeeaaaahhhh… 😅 The whole “guy marries woman with a secret who requests that he not do this one specific thing that would expose her but he does it anyway, finds out and it ends badly yet he’s somehow surprised and upset about that” thing is unfortunately a pretty common story type in folktales, especially the shorter ones. Look up The Girl with the Green Ribbon and you’ll know what I’m talking about. I think it’s to teach guys that there are, in fact, consequences to their actions, but idk, maybe it’s me being too generous lol.
In the end they are Normans and they had also Danes which the vikings didn't want their as a king. Medieval ages. Looking at the flags of Australia and New Zealand is a three crosses which is so uniform of baltic states but different features.
You can't tell me that the beginning of Mélusine's true NP doesn't look like a Synchro Summon. Besides, she has one of my favorite animations in the game amongst me servants.
The mention of Albion outside of Fate series / "There doesn't seem to be a White Dragon named Albion outside of Fate" Not True! Highschool DxD has Albion in its story as antagonist/ rival for the MC. It is known as The White Dragon Emperor, He who Stole the Principle of Supremacy from God. His ability allow him to steal power from anyone he touches
@@CrazyYurie I found something you might be interested in. I remember there being a British flag with the image of a dragon on it, so I looked into it. Sure enough, there was a flag of Wales, which had a red dragon on a white and green flag. That led me to the Historia Brittonum, which has various tales from Britain's past, including tales involving King Arthur, and a tale of Vortigan unearthing two dragons from under Britian soil. One being red, and the other white. What's more, apparently, Albion was the original name for the land of Britian itself. Mind, I got all this from Wikipedia, so make of that what you will. But, hey, if nothing else, it makes for a great starting point for more research.
Melsuine is quite a tragic lore background wasn't she? But oh boy I don't know how strong she is but Koyanskaya pushed her luck too far and got killed by her (for her tail at least, thats alot of pain)
Maybe you do notice but..... let me point out. Lancelot and Albion. Does it sound familiar? Lancelot Albion or rather .....Suzaku from Code geass. The strongest knight status, the mechanica ldragon body, white dragon Albion in the name.😂 Also to point out Melusine is her fake name so she is not a counterpart of mythical melusine but rather Suzaku the knight of Zero. 😅 so if you compare, let's compare her and Suzaku Kururugi.
I prefer the term Tam Lin cause......Fairy Knight just sounds a bit generic. What about the horsheads? They dont deserve to be called Fairy Knights? They sure do in my eyes fore how loyal they where fore the most part
Aye I dunno but if you are up to date with fate strange fake novel/manga. Spoilers Its hinted that albion does appear well a part of it atleast since there are 2 ayaka sajyou in fsf, and later on that somewhat part of albion became ayaka sajyou(the blonde one), it actually makes sense since she isn’t a mage yet her mana is massive like her servant richard constantly use his np excalibur along side summoning his other knights and with all that ayaka does not seem to have a mana problem aside from it thia escardos(not human but is powerful) stated that fake ayaka is way to dangerous to be left.
As cool as Melusine is...I didnt realy like her role in the Story. Then again I hate anything thats connectet to Aurora and overa all did NOT enjoy Avalon le Fae at all as I genuenly DESPISE the Fae with a passion. I prefer more light heartet storys, wich I hope fore with Traum. I mean it has ma boy Charlie in it surley it cant be SUPER dark....oh please dont let it be super dark after Avalon and now the horrid mess that is tonguska I need a happy fun palled clenser
"There doesn't seem to be a White Dragon named Albion outside of Fate"
Highschool DxD called.
And Yugioh too
Yeah... I knew I should have re-worded that one. It sounded too definitive. What I meant was real world myth/legends. x_x
It makes me wonder, because Code Geass has a white mech called the Lancelot, which later gets wings when it is upgraded to the Lancelot Albion. There has to be some reason that this connection keeps getting made in completely independent works.
Fun fact about melusine’s third form weapons. On her weapons, the writing says “Tychedight Albion”. Tyche is the Roman name for Fortuna which is the Greek goddess of luck. Dight comes from arondight. Tokei means clock in Japanese so it’s a double pun. In her np she says “From Geoffroy to Fromont. Show us the time, Tukeidight!” Her hour hand is called Geoffroy and her minute hand is called Fromont. (Geoffroy and Fromont were also the name of her children.) So in her np she’s essentially commanding tychedight to reveal the time. It’s a really cool np and all the details line up so well.
now i like her even more, and that was supposed to be impossible
Regarding the name of her second skill, according to "Encyclopedia of Fairies: Hobgoblins, Brownies, Bogies and Other Supernatural Creatures" by Katharine Briggs, Perry Dancers is the Suffolk name for Aurora Borealis, so that association continues here.
The Red and White Dragon in Fate are indeed two halfs of Albion. Saber got her Dragon Reactor Core skill, while Melusine have her Dragon Heart skill.
Wait.. does that mean that Artoria and Vortigern are like, technically related or spiritually related to melusine or something?
@@NoMoreWhat-Ifs Something like that, Mordred have a grandma then. (Or an auntie). Artoria Avalon compares Melusine with Saber in some my room dialogues. (I guess in both Caster and Berserker version of Castoria).
Her weapon's are indeed clockhand, she has two and they have a name, one's Tukeidight Geoffroy and the other is Tukeidight Fromont, I remember her artist stating it
I wonder where that was said...? :o
@@CrazyYurie It's also the names of her knuckle dusters she later has
@@CrazyYurie Search this
こっちがテュケイダイト・ジョフロワ
こっちがテュケイダイト・フロモンね。
@@t3dweipin193 My Japanese isn't good enough to read it. x_x
@@CrazyYurieer no, just search it, it should be on choco X page, with image attached, for some reason any comment mentioning T website or link gets deleted
You know by this point after doing my own research and asking opinions of other content creators I am convinced that the Melusines in Genshin are more so based on Meluko than that of the myth version. In terms of origin at least .
I don't know anything about Genshin, tbh.
What are Meluko?
@@shadowclaw7210just a nickname.
Do you mean how all Melusine in Teyvat are "offspring" of Elynas, much like how FGO Melusine is formed from the left hand of Albion?
@@JAMllostthegame More or Less or in this case it’s almost exactly the same
Yurie: Am I really gonna let my personal bias show in my Melusine video?
Of course I am!
Wha?!?
I am pretty sure that the red dragon is og Artoria Pendragon. I believe it was said pretty clearly during lostbelt 6
It is indeed meant to represent the native population of Britain, and by extension King Arthur. The White was meant to represent the Savon invaders and their puppet, Vortigern.
Fun fact: If you've played or seen Xenosaga you know KOS-MOS (short for: Kosmos Obey Strategical Multiple Operation System), one of CHOCO's earliest character creations & Melusine happens to look _VERY_ much like her, like a little sister almost. Especially if you look at KOS-MOS' design from Episode 3. Even their movesets are similar.
They are also both insanely strong in both gameplay and lore so I am 100% convinced that he just wanted to put his favorite and most iconic character into FGO lmao
To complement: Melusine's design has elements that are also reminiscent of two Xenoblade 2's Blades: Praxis and Theory. As you must be imagining, both were created by CHOCO.
Alas, I have not played that. x_x
Might explain why I wound up liking Melusine so much. I love KOS-MOS, and Xenosaga is one of my favorite RPGs ever. Still sad to this day the series got cut short
FGO artists reusing character designs? Where have I seen this before?
@@alycatblues27 Same when I first saw Melusine I always felt she seemed so familiar till I realized CHOCO was the same artist who made KOS MOS. And here I am with every single artbook tangentially related to CHOCO. I love KOS MOS so much as a character from design to story and Melusine is the same. I heavy cope after XC3 Future Redeemed ending that it was KOS MOS floating down to earth.
Gotta love our Synchro Summon Dragon 😭
I’m surprised you didn’t mention the airplane lights on her wings considering the fact that she sounds like a jet when she flies.
I'll probably eventually try to 120 someone (likely Altera since she is my favorite Servant for sentimental reasons), but for right now, my goal in FGO is to eventually have a level 100 for every class. For the longest time, I was planning to make Scathach my 100 Lancer, but hadn't gotten around to it yet. Then when LB6 dropped, I decided to pull to try to get Sith since I really like her design, and I wound up pulling Melusine. Since then, I've slowly become more and more attached to her, to the point she has beaten out Scathach as my primary Lancer and will be my level 100 for that class. Something about her character just works so damn well.
And as a side note: The Blackbeard faces censoring the nudity made me laugh out loud.
I actually really like Altera too. She's on my list of servants I'd like to do a video on. As is Scathach, for that matter.
And yes, using Blackbeard as my nudity censor, especially with that expression, was something I thought up and have used a few times in earlier videos. You may be the first person to comment about it though!
The Albion bit is a stealth pun invoking Arthurian legend. While Albion refers to the island, its literal meaning is 'white'. Whether that refers to the mountain peaks, the white cliffs of dover, or something else is debated.
Arthur is the red dragon. In Arthurian legend, he is explicitly affiliated with it as the embodiment of the prophecy of a native Briton king who would repel the recent Germanic invaders as the white dragon.
In Nasuverse, Arthur's heart comes from Albion as the (Red) Dragon Reactor Core. While this is never directly invoked in Lostbelt 6, Artoria serves a similar tragic savior role and is directly opposed to Melusine as the other dragon who is principally white-colored in her faerie form. While the actual white dragon is Vortigern, Melusine is clearly enmeshed with this concept, if in a messy way.
As far as the Lancer class, notice her punches are all jabs and she throws a javelin for the hybrod variant of her Third Ascension NP. While her weapons are not physical spears (mostly), her attacks are functionally involve a lot of long-distance lunges, diving attacks, and stabbing motions, which opens up comparisons to a spearman.
I definitely wasn't expecting to see this video so soon, haha 😅. I currently just started LB5, so I'll get back to this when I'm caught up on NA.
Enjoy LB5! That one's great too! :D
Interestingly enough, Fate is not the only franchise linking Lancelot to dragons and Albion. The Code Geass anime series is a war drama/mecha series with the nation of Britannia having a lot of Arthurian themes in their mechs (called Knightmare frames). Early on in the series, their most advanced knightmare frame is the Lancelot, which later on gets upgraded to the Lancelot Albion. The Lancelot Albion gains a pair of energy wings, granting it the ability to fly.
I only remembered that later. Weird, since I really liked Code Geass. x_x
@@CrazyYurie It can be pretty easy to forget or miss details like that. Heck, I only recently realized how fitting it was for the cat, which they named Arthur, to hate Suzaku, the pilot of Lancelot. I love it when small details like that get added in.
@@darkprinc979 Alas, my brain is not a computer... no matter how often people tend to treat me like one. I should re-watch Geass sometime... :o
I’m convince if she gets fully grown(yes I know shes old but)she would look like nagao kagetora.
MEOWWW
I would approve of this.
I'm looking forward to you eventually covering Muramasa. Nice work and keep it up!
That will be an interesting one, for sure!
Albion as an Island I think also gets a link due to the forest... or was it a swamp that grows out of Albion's corpse and makes up part of Faerie Britain, itself composed of corpses.
Actually i think melusines blades are a sort of mix between a tekko kagi and maybe a strange shortspear or something,hence the gauntlet like weapons.
Woah you really did melusine looking forward to the next video....
I say who's next at the end of each video! :D
If your familiar with Highschool DxD, there's also that rivalry between The Welsh Dragon against Albion. Thinking about that carefully, I wonder where the Japanese get that... when I watched the anime (and read the Light Novel subsequently) this is where I first heard of these two dragons. Especially noteworthy as DxD uses a lot of mythological figures. Hence me being surprised that Fate actually uses the same concept where Albion is a dragon instead of being a place. Re-iterating the question on where the Japanese ever got something like that?
I've never seen Highschool DxD.
@@CrazyYurieyou should. It’s good.
@@darthkai3621 the ln is better from what ive heard
the white dragon represent the invading anglo-saxons or in other words… the english
Dang I don't even have anything to add, you hit all the points even some I haven't ever seen before like the clock motif
I do think you made a good point all the tam lin have a final ascension that falls between their regular form and their calamity form (maybe only sorta with Boabhan Sith)
5000% isn't actually that uncommon for a star gather buff that actually matters, most ones that only have 3 digits don't always accomplish what they need
I'm with you on the Raymond thing
Albion being a dragon did crop up somewhere because it's in games all over the place but I'm with you I can't find an origin other than like you said a possible conflation with the white dragon of Arthurian legend
Man going over her story is bringing all the memories back of LB6 we saved everyone we could there the best we could and we did do right by quite a few character Melusine included
5000% is common among Berserkers or Avengers, not Lancers. It makes Melusine's star gathering basically take from everyone else until she has 100% crit on everything. I'm ok with this though because I bring my Melusine out to delete things. XD
@@CrazyYurie fair fair the berserkers are usually where I'm thinking about
And yup always feels good to evaporate an enemy with a good crit
@@Fronswath I made sure to include a few in the video. For some reason, I forgot how utterly nuts Melusine can be. Getting those clips for the video reminded me... while also doing door farming and the new interludes. XD
@@CrazyYurie more of a lööper myself but man does a good super Orion crit hit right once and a while
@@Fronswath Oh indeed!
Albion is a dragon thats basically as old as Earth, True Dragons grow more powerfull with age, so it's power is absolutely insane. If anything Melusine is underpowered. It's severed head is drilling it's way to the Reverse Side by glaring. It's corpse body distorts space to the point people can wind up at the Tomb of Albion by accident feom the other side of the world.
My comment got deleted cause I linked a pic but In a few crest melusine has a spear though I initially thought she was a lancer because of her tail
The number thing. I think that's actually in reference to the seats of the Round Table.
Probably, since the numbers on clocks only go up to 12, so from that perspective 13 wouldn't make sense.
I now kinda want to see Melusine interact with Yugioh's Kisara aka the Maiden with Eyes of Blue now known as the White Maiden. One is the left hand of a legendary dragon while the other is the origin of a dragon of legend. Add in BOTW/TOTK Zelda and you have a trio of very interesting dragon ladies. One came from a legendary dragon, one is the origin of a legendary dragon, and one became a legendary dragon. The parallels kinda just work really well here.
Great video! I never made the connection with clocks even with all the looping I've been doing with her.
I have seen fan art of Mèlusine holding a Starbucks drink, now I see the connection
The red dragon and the white dragon of Fate are both Albions. Think of them as two halves of the whole. Also, Albion technically is still the island of Britain seeing as how it represents the Will of Britain during the days of Vortigern and Artoria and has pretty much become one with the land.
6 m-m-million?!?!? Jokes aside I kinda expected a much lower grading despite everything and also there is a huge emphasis on a mechanical look that I don’t get but other than that I had no idea Starbucks was a melusine and imma think twice before drinking what used to be a mermaid
I had to show off a little. :P Also yes, the Starbucks thing absolutely threw me.
@@CrazyYurie hey do you think I’ll get her I’ve saved 760 and worked up money to spend ;-;
FGO seems to really be diving into the idea that some beings are more like machines than flesh and blood creatures, and that's probably what they were going with when they made Melusine. It's something that has been in the Fate dna since the original visual novel, particularly being aimed at people like Emiya Kiritsugu, Shirou and even Saber Arturia.
@@darkprinc979 Indeed, and we have the Olympian Gods too.
I know I’m a year late to this video but I’m sitting here thinking as to why Melusine is a lancer and I thought of something. Now this is only based off of arondight overload but the way she rushes down really reminds me of a jousting style attack and even the way she unsheathes her blades and converges it into 1 point seems like that’s the closest thing I could think of though (other than the obvious reason being that all they needed was a lancer)
Never too late! That's an interesting idea!
Great video man. You do such a great job with these 👏
Thanks! ^_^
I find it hilarious how you generally use melusine and today sei, who are my two favorite waifus in fgo. Melusine is my only servant above lv100 and sei is my only np5 ssr
Using Melusine to do expressions has kinda become my gimmick for these videos. But I had to choose someone else for the Melu video. I chose Sei because she's another character whose facial expressions I find amusing. I have thought about bringing Sei back to be the "host" for some future videos. :3
By the way the red and white dragon are also rappresentation of the Anglo and saxons which than u know the kingdom of England the kingdom of the Anglo and Saxon makes them one and the same dragon which than u know get the name albion cause well old name of Britain. I think that’s where the albion part comes from cause if u think about it following this explanation it makes sense
Personally i dont blame raymond if i and my wife are together long enough to have ten kids who grew to adulthood id wonder what is she hiding from me that for years she coudnt tell me like this isnt like three months this is 10 kids worth of years most of whom would be adults
The story of Melusine exists in a diffrent form also in Luxenburg, but there she was a Mermaid and noticed her husband peeking and jumped out the window into the lake.
Frankly I didn't expect much if any connection. So that they did take some inspiration actually is pretty cool. I like the touch with the island thing. Being a dragon in the fate-verse, but the remains forming an island in both the main universe and somewhat was well in the lost belt depiction.
In the end I'm really happy with Melusine's depiction. Was an absolute treasure in that lost belt. Some tough times and that toxic relationship especially was difficult. But really came through in the very end. Design wise she was a total win. There's a lot of cool details mixed in there too. Especially easy to see from CHOCO's art book, but just in general when looking at her design.
May not get a high score for historical accuracy. But this is one occasion where I'm all for the creative liberties.
Indeed. I focus these videos on accuracy to the original source material, but... as Shirou says, there's no rule saying a fake can't surpass the original. ;)
Type Moon's Round Table has 13 seats and Mash's shield depicted on Mélusine's design is the same Round Table.
Thanks for making the vid. 😊 The fae knights are a few of my fav characters.
Mine too! :D
Ojalá TH-cam se los traduzca bien
La razón del porque la forma dragón de Melusine es más mecánico que reptiliano se debe a que Melusine es una fan de los mecha, un diseño descartado de su tercera Ascencion es ella usando un traje de combate estilo iron man y Gundam, aunque esto fue dejado de lado y se le dio la forma semi dragon en su lugar, su forma dragón termina tomando el aspecto mecánico debido a su fanatismo por el género mecha (si Melusine es una Otaku/geek) de forma inconsciente después de asesinar a Aurora
Honestly, I feel like Melusine's Second Ascension (Melusine in casual clothes) should have been the First Ascension and the first one (Melusine in armor) should have been the Second Ascension. It would make more sense and would make the progression towards the Third Ascension more natural.
Likewise, it wouldn't have been bad to have some black tints on the First Ascension (Melusine in armor) as a hint to her Third Ascension. And about the Third Ascension, perhaps some more draconic/reptilian aspects would have been nice to symbolize that Melusine has accepted her Dragon lineage.
Either way, it's funny to think that Melusine was about to fall into hell when the final score was revealed (along with the fact that it was going to be a D), but was saved by her Lostbelt condition.
It wasn't just the Lostbelt bit. When I was thinking of a grade that low, it was also before I'd discovered that whole Lancelot-Melusine-Dragon connection.
My best guess would be that they just wanted to have the forms (of the 3 Tam Lin) be in the order of when you met them?
A counter of that would be (the last forms) both Melusine and Sith.
She's actually following the same pattern as Saber Alter. Salter starts out fully armored and with her eyes covered by some sort of visor. Once you ascend her she loses the visor, and then for her final ascension she loses the armor entirely in favor of a more formal dress. The main difference between the two is that Melusine's facial covering is a spiritron dress, where Saber Alter's spiritron dress puts her in the biker outfit she had in the Shinjuku pseudo singularity.
Fun Fact: "Dragon" is actually derived from "drakōn," the Greek word for "serpent"
The concept of the World being a Dragon is in the 1981 film Excalibur.
I really should check this film out. :o
@@CrazyYurie It's neat but flawed.
I notice you haven't covered any of the Irish Servants yet, I just wrote something on my Blog you might find interesting.
mithrandirolorin.blogspot.com/2024/05/cu-chulainn-scathach-and-medb-were.html
CRAZY KEEEEP ON DRIIIIIVING
Vroom!
Love your videos, I feel like you should spice things up and look into how accurate beast class folklore is
The beasts are on the lists, or at least some of them are. Kiara isn't since she's a Type-Moon original.
Another great video I love these, it’s really interesting to see what inspires servants (even if they don’t really match with real history)
I’m not sure if you take suggestions or already have another video planned, but I would really like to see a video on barghest
Barghest is on my short-list. Actually I almost did her instead. Expect to see her soon-ish!
Pointing out that the Fairy Knights are intentionally each of the Knight Classes just made me realize how much they all reflect each other.
For all three, their first ascension is their knight form, their second ascension is their formal/party dresses, and their third ascension is what each ended up as at the end of LB6. There is a potential arguement to be made that their themeing is based off the primary colors, where Melusine is Blue, Baobhan is Red, and Barghest is Yellow (a bit of a stretch, since she dresses in red more often, but Gawain IS the knight of the Sun). Finally, each one is tied in some way to one of the calamities. Melusine is the Calamity of Fire, Barghest is the Calamity of Beasts, and from my understanding Baohban was going to be connected to Cernunnos' Priestess, the Calamity of Curses (you can hear her theme in the boss's ost).
Not to mention that the class each embodies is a counter to each other to.🤔😊
I believe Melusine or Tam Lin Lancelot should be in the pretenders class
Yeeeeaaaahhhh… 😅
The whole “guy marries woman with a secret who requests that he not do this one specific thing that would expose her but he does it anyway, finds out and it ends badly yet he’s somehow surprised and upset about that” thing is unfortunately a pretty common story type in folktales, especially the shorter ones. Look up The Girl with the Green Ribbon and you’ll know what I’m talking about.
I think it’s to teach guys that there are, in fact, consequences to their actions, but idk, maybe it’s me being too generous lol.
No matter what she is my favorite in LB6. I am not Seto Kaiba but I love dragons
"But, there is one they fear ..."
Beware!
@@CrazyYurie Sons of Skyrim intensifies.
Just need Siegfried.
Ahh Melusine the face of brute force incarnate
Maybe Clocks or Time are a ingrained part of Albion? like his Origin, and thats why the clock tower is... well... a clock tower
In the end they are Normans and they had also Danes which the vikings didn't want their as a king. Medieval ages. Looking at the flags of Australia and New Zealand is a three crosses which is so uniform of baltic states but different features.
But still Richard's Mom huh guess speed runs in the family
Richard?
@@CrazyYurie the lion heart he's one of the fastest servants equal or greater too ushiwaka
I tune level 4 Incredible Ecclesia, The Virtuous with my level 8 Blue Eyes White Dragon to Synchro Summon Mélusine Dragon Of The Horizon!!!
Whaa?!?
You can't tell me that the beginning of Mélusine's true NP doesn't look like a Synchro Summon.
Besides, she has one of my favorite animations in the game amongst me servants.
Well there mecha named lancelot albion in code geass
Melussy! 😊
Didn't anyone get the "Clock Tower " references
The mention of Albion outside of Fate series / "There doesn't seem to be a White Dragon named Albion outside of Fate"
Not True! Highschool DxD has Albion in its story as antagonist/ rival for the MC.
It is known as The White Dragon Emperor, He who Stole the Principle of Supremacy from God.
His ability allow him to steal power from anyone he touches
I knew that line would get me in trouble. x_x
@@CrazyYurie I found something you might be interested in. I remember there being a British flag with the image of a dragon on it, so I looked into it. Sure enough, there was a flag of Wales, which had a red dragon on a white and green flag. That led me to the Historia Brittonum, which has various tales from Britain's past, including tales involving King Arthur, and a tale of Vortigan unearthing two dragons from under Britian soil. One being red, and the other white. What's more, apparently, Albion was the original name for the land of Britian itself.
Mind, I got all this from Wikipedia, so make of that what you will. But, hey, if nothing else, it makes for a great starting point for more research.
Could yah do a Barghest vid now?
PLEASE!
I almost did Barghest instead of Melusine, actually. She's on my short-list! :D
@@CrazyYurie Good. Best Fae Knight Barghest deserves iy
so Albion is the Red Dragon and Vordiger is the White Dragon in Marlin's prophecy in Fate
Both are technically Albion.
Melsuine is quite a tragic lore background wasn't she? But oh boy I don't know how strong she is but Koyanskaya pushed her luck too far and got killed by her (for her tail at least, thats alot of pain)
She has a really sad story in LB6 too. ;_;
So does klidge had an opinion about this since he is playing FGO and it's about Aurora in his video.
I may have to check this. I've been way way too busy to watch other people's content lately. :o
Are you going to save the part of her being a "tam lin" to another video, or was there reason you didn't point it out?
Maybe you do notice but..... let me point out. Lancelot and Albion. Does it sound familiar? Lancelot Albion or rather .....Suzaku from Code geass. The strongest knight status, the mechanica ldragon body, white dragon Albion in the name.😂
Also to point out Melusine is her fake name so she is not a counterpart of mythical melusine but rather Suzaku the knight of Zero. 😅 so if you compare, let's compare her and Suzaku Kururugi.
I've not watched Geass in a while. How did I miss this?!? O_O
@@CrazyYurie also, Albion and white mechanical dragon suit is also Vali lucifer from high school dxd
I prefer the term Tam Lin cause......Fairy Knight just sounds a bit generic. What about the horsheads? They dont deserve to be called Fairy Knights? They sure do in my eyes fore how loyal they where fore the most part
Aye I dunno but if you are up to date with fate strange fake novel/manga. Spoilers
Its hinted that albion does appear well a part of it atleast since there are 2 ayaka sajyou in fsf, and later on that somewhat part of albion became
ayaka sajyou(the blonde one), it actually makes sense since she isn’t a mage yet her mana is massive like her servant richard constantly use his np excalibur along side summoning his other knights and with all that ayaka does not seem to have a mana problem aside from it thia escardos(not human but is powerful) stated that fake ayaka is way to dangerous to be left.
supposedly called How Accurate is Crazy Yurie
I've not made that video yet. :o
XD
YES GIVE MY FATHER JUSTICE! HE DESERVES BETTER THEN THIS DEAD BEAT DAD JOKE! IM SICK OF LANCELOT GETTING DISRESPECTED!
He does deserve better, for sure. I plan to talk all about that in a future Lancelot video.
So arthurian legends wins😢 anyway hoping that you get to gawain and lancelot soon. Good video btw.
No, this is me doing Melusine on her own. I still have three more pirates to do before getting to whoever wins the polls!
wait so Melusine is Albion's left hand? does that mean he fapped using her ones or twice?
How lewd!
What the fuck is a tam lin and why does it have nothing to do with the actual fairy knights
I may need to look into that. :o
Do David
Some day for sure! :D
Loving the blackbeard censors
Thanks! It was one of my better random ideas, I think. :D
As cool as Melusine is...I didnt realy like her role in the Story. Then again I hate anything thats connectet to Aurora and overa all did NOT enjoy Avalon le Fae at all as I genuenly DESPISE the Fae with a passion. I prefer more light heartet storys, wich I hope fore with Traum. I mean it has ma boy Charlie in it surley it cant be SUPER dark....oh please dont let it be super dark after Avalon and now the horrid mess that is tonguska I need a happy fun palled clenser
I guess we will see, won't we?