How Accurate is FGO's Baobhan Sith?
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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 15 ก.ค. 2024
- How well does Fate/Grand Order portray Baobhan Sith, also known as Tam Lin Tristan? How close is Baobhan's in-game version to her mythological counterpart? In this video we delve into her character design, in-game skills, and characterization in order to determine that, followed up by giving it a grade in terms of its accuracy to the source material. Was Baobhan Sith truly a Faerie Vampire with a huge appetite for violence? Find out here!
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Artwork consists of images created since the tales of Baobhan sith first appeared, chiefly in the public domain.
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Music:
Scarlet Dancer Tam Lin Tristan Battle
Fate/Grand Order Original Soundtrack V
Keita Haga
2021
Disc 2, Track 12
Fantasy Calamity of Curse
Fate/Grand Order Original Soundtrack V
Keita Haga
2021
Disc 2, Track 20
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00:00 Intro
00:12 Class
00:53 Character Design
02:54 Skillset
04:58 Noble Phantasm
06:36 Craft Essence and Shoes
07:37 Baobhan Sith Myth
08:43 Characterization
10:05 Baobhan Sith in FGO
11:38 Beryl Gut and Tristan
12:46 Cernunnos
14:05 Post LB6
14:55 Conclusion
15:34 Final Grade - เกม
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Not being able to redeem Baobhan Sith is one of the most tragic parts of LB6. All she needed was a true friend.
At least we can play that role.
Don't forget Castoria in future events.
it's also weird that she was titled as "Tamlin Tristan" when in Lostbelt 6 she clearly takes more of the role of Mordred.. now while she didn't exactly betray Morgan like how Mordred did Arthur, Baobhan was the one that became Cernonus' core which then was the thing that felled Morgan's Camelot mirroring Mordred being the one who ultimately ended King Arthur's own Camelot
Yeah but can you imagine how fast Mordred would kill her if she had been named that once we summoned her lol
But we have to agree, tan lin mordred would be great
There’s also a possibility that her mythological counterpart’s green dress coloring was most probably alluded to by her having a quick NP and being a quick-centric servant
One thing that you didn't mention with Baobhan Sith's design, is that in official character art for her, it's revealed that her first ascension's heels have the footprint of a deer.
They do?!?
@@CrazyYurie
If you look closely at the way her heels are shaped in the 1st Ascension, you would find that the outsoles are split to resemble hooves. The PHH legend of her having hooves is also mentioned in her profile (Bond 2) so the split outsole is most likely intentional.
As for the green dress, she mentions finding it too fancy for her tastes in the voice line for her upgrade to her 2nd Ascension.
I find it so incredibly sad that throughout all of Aesc's journey as a hero, Baobhan Sith is the only faery who ever thanked her.
I can't imagine how dreadful it must have been for Morgan to see how the one good faery she met was now a rotting corpse of a hostage.
That scene was the moment I realized the faeries deserved to die.
The fact that it was the only reason she lost to like Morgan would have won but she froze when she saw what had become of her daughter and couldn’t react in time to survive like genuinely the one time she genuinely tries to be a good mother and love her child it gets her killed
Also, Baoban sith's friendship with Galatea has been hinted by Mash before in the master mission voice lines. They've been friends for a few months before the event. Pretty cute
Got her and finally grailed her. Aiming to get her skills to all 6, and she's bond 5.
I think her third acension isn't her after spamming Fetch, I think it's meant to be what she was like when Morgan found her. Lets lay down the facts.
She is significantly nicer to you which is consistent with how she was a kind faerie by nature. Along with this, her wish for the grail is to make her village prosperous so everyone else would like her (this is consistent with her characterisation). Furthermore, her very provocative yet fancy outfit (the bonnet is the very fancy part) may be to assist in her previous profession so she can more easily sleep with and drink blood from people to survive. Finally, her constant lines of her saying she's falling apart is probably because the faeries and humans, who she helped, ripped her limb from limb before Morgan (then Tonelico/Aesc) found her. The strange black ribbons she has everywhere and holds with her mouth might actually be to hold her together, almost like she hastily stiched her own body together.
I also noticed something interesting. In her bond 4 dialogue for her 3rd ascension, she is seemingly remembering how the faeries treated her, calling herself "Everyone's smiling plaything". In her 4th ascension, she fully regains her memories of exactly what the faeries did to her and she is pretty much boiling with rage at them. Then, in her bond 5 dialogue, she is seemingly smashing the faeries to bits out of vengeance, which may imply that she's in the simulator considering the only faeries who are still alive are Barghest, who Morgan would likely not let her attack, and Morgan herself, who Baobhan Sith is definitely not attacking. My headcanon is that Ritsuka probably had a bunch of faeries and human enemies generated in the simulator so that Baobhan Sith could feel better after getting all her anger out, which is very much what I (and seemingly most of the Fate fandom) would do. So technically we did help her, kind of.
I'm really glad you mentioned the dress colour and why there's precedent for her wearing green, because _she_ mentions it as well during her 1st ascension/ outfit change as the last line of the dialogue: "Ha, green skirts and the like are too fancy for me anyway."
And being colourblind myself this felt like I was being gaslit, having seen her wearing what I was fairly sure was red, then reading what seemed to imply her dress was actually green, which was plausible enough that I had just misidentified green as red due to the vampire associations and just expecting red more than green, only to double check and no she really was wearing red. I was very confused at the time, but now that all makes a lot more sense.
Fun fact:
Fetch is also the irish version of the doppelganger
To those who want to know why she's wearing red, there were Legends in real life where fairies would wear colors to show what they believed for humans and fairies as well as social class. Red is the show I hateful side to social interactions as well as to others around them while is to be more open, sith most likely wore green and her first iteration when she wasn't an abused vampire who what's taking advantage of by the other fairies. It's only when Morgan took her in is when she became more evil, so by this logic will make more sense for her to wear red
What about white?
Also, it is a cool tidbit, but please cute a source, I am quite interested.
look up seelie and unseeline court @@nkyfong
Regarding that Fae Vampire-Succubus thing, I’m pretty sure her fourth bond line hinted at the way Baobhan Sith got to their victims
That one image of Edmond Dantès in bright pink made me recoil back, you did a good job at making something look outrageous
It's just something I thought about in the moment, and so decided to do. Glad someone appreciates it! :D
really enjoyed learning about fae tristan, since tristan is my fav knight of the round. quick question, could you also discuse their np chants? whether its an actual chant related to their lore or something else, it would be cool to know how that might come about. This is just a suggestion of course
It’s funny she wears red but is a quick servant so the green connection is there
One thing I remember reading awhile ago was how Failnaught was originally a magical trap and I always thought Sith's NP was somewhat a call back to that? Cause it always kind of looked like a trap going off after she hits them with the stake
*Cernunnos approved this video*
I just realised something even though she isn't green she is quick based. Maybe that's the nod to the myth
It still makes me so happy after the events of Lb6 she gets to enjoy herself in chaldea. being scottish myself i really enjoyed how they played Sith for the LB, helps that the Fae Knights became some of my favorite characters/servants in the verse. plus her character speaks to me on a personal level, as does Morgan; the whole "Doing the best you can for the worst people only to be cast down each and every time". love this video series, keep it up!
The whole Galatea relationship is revealed early on with bargest’s reaction to sith’s appearance in Chaldea
I don't have Galatea. :/
I've often heard the idea that Baoban is the reborn human that once came with Cernunos, and that's why she needed both sustanance of blood and was the one to awaken him
I rolled Melusine and Percival simultaneously. Brother and sister, entering Chaldea simultaneously.
Oh, and Lancelot was there too.
Grats!
@@CrazyYurie, grats to you too for rolling Meluko!
Darn. Wish me luck cause I’m going for Meluko too. I’ve already got Perceval now
@@SerpentYoukai, I'll pray for you m8
Another interesting thing about FGO Baobhan is not only does she look like Liz Bathory, her story also ends up reflecting Liz's lore. At least until Spriggan intervened, Bao's fate was to be a life sentence of house arrest, abandoned by friends and family, and falling apart physically and mentally while the guards outside her room contemplated bricking it off. Also, historical Bathory's husband was said to also have a sadistic streak that is believed likely enabled hers; while it seems Bao already had a nasty reputation, her relationship with Beryl really kicked her murderous tendencies into overdrive.
No wonder they're such good friends in Chaldea.
There was also DA noel in tsukihime remake where her design is also reminiscent of Liz bathory as well and has a similar backstory although she's alot more irredeemable than the other 2
I currently have: Bao NP4; Barghest NP5; Melusine NP1, except Morgan who I wanted most of all, gacha can be cruel at times😂😭
It can. :(
I just got a second copy of Baobhan Sith; being red my favourite color too, I can't have enough of red archers 😍
I still hope to get at least one copy of Melusine this time... 🤞
This is the best Christmas gift one could ever ask for.
You are welcome! :3
Lets goo, my fav one! I've been waiting for her video(also waiting patiently for Douman's), thank you for deliver as always!
You are welcome! :D
Good vid! Also congrats on the additional Melu, I got her to appear 3 times on the latest banner myself with little sq, so now I am enjoying my NP5 and will absolutely grail her to 120 eventually
Wow grats!
Honestly, I always thought her third ascension fit the description of a Banshee the most both in appearance and nature. With the dirty white dress and the tear streaks. The name even matches phonetically.
I love the design but personally do not use it because it’s basically all her suffering manifested and even her voice lines pertains to every pain she felt over the hundreds of years she was alive. I just want Morgan the Tam Lins to be happy for once🥹
Thanks, for this i wanna know everything about these three tamlin. Now i can! 😊👍
I want to spoil the shit out of bao bao she’s my favorite as she slowly declines into a more sympathetic character
Mine too
As a casual NA Fgo player, I've probably played more of the events than the actual plot (I'm currently at the beginning of Babylon), I somehow got Tam Lin Tristan as my first ever gold Archer (a class that's not my fav) and just decided to level her up just to have a good acher and didn't really care till her 3rd ascension since her design change then (I thought her 2nd Ascension was fan service at first), because I'm also a Slasher and Tim Burton fan, and then i steadily grew to love her. This video really did help me love her even more and I've also gained a liking to the other fae knights thank to your other two videos so thank you! 😊💚
P.S. the more I think of her 1st design, the more I think she should have a wonderland event as The Queen Of Hearts, maybe that way we could have her as a Castor, thoughts?♥️🃏🤔
Meep! The video on her here spoils a bunch of stuff from later story content! But you're at the start of Babylonia? I do hope you enjoy that. Babylonia was a good one!
@@CrazyYurie No worries, I knew fully that I might've spoiled myself, but honestly I'm fine with it. Fate is One of many confusing fandoms that I love, so I'll take any info that I can take from it.😊👍
9:18 that would be 1 kill per day with some days having 2 kills
400,000/100 = 4,000 Per Year
4,000/365.25 = 10.951 Per Day
@CrazyYurie ah right
My bad
I just got her now and when ascending her to 2-nd ascension she metions that green dresses are to fancy for her so there IS a connection to original mythological imagery
Even though her dress was supposed to be green i'm still kinda glad its red because idk what to feel about a green vampire, it just doesn't match. But at least her cards are green tho
Edit: Idk what is it about the NA translation, but the pump and dump part is more like "i get bored easily" so it might be just a localization thing but i'll let her pump me😳
Lewd!
@@CrazyYurieyeh na distorts profiles like how they got mordred wrong by implying that u should think of her as a man when in reality what was said is: dont call her a woman, don’t call her a man, modred is just mordred(which is only true when u are a stranger when u get close to her she dosnt mind u at all u calling her a girl also her profile clearly states: female)also yes I don’t know where the hell did they get in na the pump and dump shit when in Japanese she says she got bored easyly of them, aka more of a non lewd implication, cause the pump and dump also goes against later characterization of sith which she will flirt but it’s unlikely she actually got to the sexual part before being bored with them(it woudnt make sense story wise for sith to continue to act like a prostitute especcialy when morgan just implanted in her to go against what the other fairies wanted her to be), there is also the fact that sith slowly develops a love for master but it’s way more suddle than the other fairy knights while barghest and melusine make it very clear they love u, sith do to her morgan conditioning is a tsundere but u can get a lot from small details that na will make u probably miss, like the fact that sith unconsciously tries to get close to us under the guise that she thinks she is helping morgan to get close to us, like in valentine she makes a cursed chocolate which will destroy other chocolate when near it however one funny detail pops up when she talks about it, that this chocolate dosnt target Morgan’s chocolate and hers which dosnt make sense unless she wants to make another one for us , also the fact that sith constantly offscreen is referenced staying near us quite a lot to the point that before valentine she watched valentine themed movies with master(us)(which she thought was horror movies for some reason also yes she likes horror movies) but yeh Altho she dosnt express it outwardly by summer 8 she preaty much indirectly confessed to u and overcomes her insicurities about being Morgan’s heir and is way more confident but also trusts u to be by her side to help her which speaks volumes of sith’s true personality,(oh yeh and the fact she saved the actual tristan from a bunch of murderous boxer kangaroos by hiding him in her house in the woods) also, one fact about the baobahn sith’s as a race sure they are vampire succubus but Apparantly not all siths killed their partners Apparantly in some versions of the stories what they actually did was preaty much a bargain in exchange for giving pleasure she would be allowed to suck blood but not fatally from their partners(also makes way more sense for them do so since u know killing their partners would just leave them on the shit list of many humans)aka the fact siths killed their victims in brutal ways is likely to the christianization of Celtic myths and that likely changed many neutral fairies into evil ones just by association with certaint traits they had also the fact that in said tales the siths are considered as kind and do not want to harm their partners more than necessary. Which also probably ties in old baobhan sith’s character description before morgan found her of being someone that was really kind towards others but got exploited because of it.
Oh... didn't know Baobhan Sith fae can actually turn human women into thier kind. Thank goodness no one in fanart side didn't try turning Gudako into one.
Also, her second ascension is definitely lewd.
Her first ascension shoes are intentionally designed to look like hooves. That definitely stood out to me.
I think baobhan was the priestess of cernunnos
The priestess was a human sadly😔.
Dunno anything about the Tam Lin but I do know that Bhaoban Shi's clothing aren't red. They're *Magenta* which is a dark shade of pink that falls unto a category of color of its own
Something I noticed while reading (That I might be making up couse vague memory) Is that the holy priestress that served under Cermunnos, which was brutally dismembered for no good reason, was the original fairy tristan. She got lied to and used back then, and the process reapeated every time she reincarnated... Leading to Morgan saving her. What do you think?
The original priestess was a human not a fairy
They were the one used as the base to clone all of the humans of LB6
It's and interesting idea but I think it's more coincidence that leads into her summer 8 form than a direct line comparison
Parallel tracks if you will, heading to the same destination but not connected directly
It's not possible for her to be the priestess since the priestess was not dead. She was kept alive and the faeries keep dismenbering her, make human from the parts, then restore her, rinse and repeat. Also, Baobhan Sith was a fairy, so she has to be descended from another fairy, not human. Baobahn Sith's life was rather a parallel to Morgan that led to Morgan saving her.
Yhea. Good points mates. I'm totally wrong. I'm going to choose to belive it was a premeditated parallelism though!
I genuinely believe it was planned that way
Baobhan Sith has many parallels to others in her story. :o
Sucubus fairy vampire! Wooo
As much as I love all all the lb6 servants she is very close to the top only really beat out by Morgan and Castoria because of how much we get about them both
I want hot pink disco King of the Cavern now....
I believe she also devoured Grimalken like Barghest with Foul Weather
Her NP should be more accurate Fetish Failnaught as a fetish can be a term used to describe a magical focus that could be compared to a voodoo doll though Fetish are usually protective in nature not harmful but i understand the translation team thinking thag might be a but much
I think that comment to Barghest about love life is a double entendre for her killing of fae as well I think you are supposed to take it both ways
Really the most true to myth of the three Tam Lin and a seriously good daughter
I know it's obvious as heck but did you notice the Baobhan siths and tam lin tristan have the same hair color
I did indeed notice that Baobhan Sith and Tam Lin Tristan have the same color. It's almost like they are the same person!
@@CrazyYurie I wasn't able to uncover anything helpful in my own search so here's this
I initially thought she was a Banshee and an archer because she screams peoples heads off from a far
Since the archer class is made up of archers🏹
Hmm if Tam Lin's over. Any thoughts about Accurate each Knight Round Table?
That is on the list!
I have to say this
She is a banshee
Since her literally sounds like banshee
They are two very different things.
@@CrazyYurie I know that but her name. Is way to close to banshee
What is the relation between the term Baobhan Sith and Banshee?
I have no idea, beyond them sounding similar.
I got percival no melusine
Percival is still good!
Percival is still good!
Isn't the Baobhan Sith from LB6 the priestess from Cernunnos that got killed before Faerie Britain was formed?
That isn't entirely clear. They do have their methods of death in common though...
i can fix her
Your funeral. :P
Fairies in britain wants immediate satisfaction? So Britain Fairies = Gen Z and gen Alpha?😊
I have no idea.
I’m going to be honest, she is easily my least favorite of the Tam Lin.
I don’t enjoy her character or her personality in LB6 and I didn’t feel bad for her when she went insane or when Morgan was butchered.