Melusine - The Serpent of Woe - European - Extra Mythology
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- No one can just listen to what they're told in mythology can they? Melusine was a woman born from a fae mother and a human father and lived in Avalon because her father couldn't follow basic fae contracts. But one day she too would meet a man and fall in love. And have her own cursed nonsense. Guess what happens?
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France: My heroes got dem snek titties
Have you also noticed how proeminent is the snake in earlier mythos?
Generally as the "bad guy" as well.
Abrahamic religions, greek mythology, egyptian...
Yep monster in musume medieval version. However if you want more french badass legends I recommend you the «la chanson de Roland »
@@nairocamilo maybe because many snakes are dangerous animals that we evolved to have a primal fear of?
“If you see a flying serpent, you May be from royalty”.
Or you’re in Mexico, or Central America, and it’s just Quetzalcoatl.
You can tell them apart by the feathers, just in case
Or you’re in Southeast Asia and it’s a Chrysopelea, gliding snake..
But weren't the Aztec nobles related to Quetzalcoatl in some way?
Or you just mistaken a Chinese dragon
Isn't Quetzalcoatl in Japan right now, sleeping with a little boy?
Note to self: next time you want to talk to a fae... bring an attorney.
Eh, then she might just get angry and curse you even harder. You dn't have to make a deal with them. See for example half the Brothers Grimm tales.
Yes. And make sure never to see them on Saturday.
That's why the Nac Mac Feegle of Discworld have swords that glow blue in the presence of lawyers...
"The lawyer is now entranced."
"They don't usually see beautiful women."
"NOW what do we do?"
@@quietone610
I like where this is going. Let me see...
The lawyer , ever swooned by the fey, starts to talk with her about herself.
You, feeling upset and slightly betrayed remind your attorney that you had already paid retainer and it be in their bar-related oath to cast judgement and care in the best interest of their client.
This is really a morality tale on the importance of clear communication.
yah maybe those kings would be more considerate if she explained the consequences?? I imagine otherworldly supernatural witch-like spells would be prevalent in a world like this. I assume having dragon tails on Saturday would be regarded as having “baggage” he has to deal with…
"No no no. I don't have massive birth defects because of inbreeding. I'm just...magic. Yeah."
I was thinking the exact same thing, that's a convenient excuse for having a family tree that looks more like a family circle
"Mummy says its a strong chin for a strong boy!"
@@weldonwin Yes, but what does Uncle-Daddy say?
@@magmat0585 Uncle-Daddy couldn't speak. The mutations he got were W I L D.
@@idkwut4523 Fair enough, but then what does my Son, Grandson, and father say to this?
So the grounds of a good relationship between faes and humans is respecting each other's privacy.
Okay. cool.
Communication would be nice too. “You can’t see me on Saturday because if you do I’ll become a monster and never see you again. I can have some women come in and verify this for you.”
“Oh, okay, that explains your strange behaviour.”
And they lived happily ever after.
@@danielled8665 communication and respecting each other's privacy For both sides. Main things we should always remember
@@danielled8665 Wouldn't that ensure Melusine's fate as well since her husband found out about her tail?
@@sophieplumbob2900 well, she didn’t mention the tail specifically, but who knows.
This story is literally: common dude, you had one job.
That seems to be how a lot of these human/super natural love stories tend to go.
Actually they are noble dudes, not common dudes.
or "why trust is important for love"
@@cooperhawk988 but younstill get my point.
@@florians9949 only if you get my joke.
I feel like a little communication would go a long way here.
"Hey honey, I'm getting really curious about what you do each Saturday. Can I ask, even if I can't see you, what's up? Or at least get an idea of why I can't?"
"Oh, yeah, sure. I was cursed for an overenthusiastic pursuance of justice as a teenager and a terrible consequence will befall me if you do."
"Oh wow, sorry to hear that. Well if you ever want to talk on Saturdays I'd be happy for us to work out a system by which we could chat through curtains or the like. Or if you've gotten used to Saturdays being your alone time that's fine too. Love you honey, I'm so glad you're part of my life."
In an alternate scenario
She was burned on a stake after being accused of being a witch
Also on another note would you just say "oh wow, sorry to hear about that" if your lover responded with that? Thats the modern equivalent of someone saying I'm an alien from outer space
@@tehzhixiang9452 She’s a powerful fae. Who could even catch her?
Fun fact - Melusine's mother Pressyne is sometimes said to be the sister of Morgan le Faye, the demise of King Arthur. And King Elynas is just one example of a "King under the Mountain" in folklore, rumored to one day return when their nation needs them most (King Arthur and Sir Francis Drake are also given this treatment).
Holger Dansk and Frederic Barbarossa as well...
@@elbentos7803 then again there’s a stark difference between Holger Danske and the rest of them, namely he’s not a legendary king but a legendary warrior. Supposedly serving under Knud the Holy.
and Thorin son of Thrain son of Thror
Moral of the story:
Be up front with your husband and have faith in your wife.
...And then Melusine became the Starbucks logo and lived happily ever after...
Nope. Turns out she sells hope by the cupful at an exorbitant rate.
@@sandeman1776 Exactly. Think of the royalties she gets in advertising!
This is what happens when you start a new company and commission the logo design before deciding if the company is going to make coffee or mermaid porn.
Wasn't that a mermaid?
ssshhhh that the bad end =3=
*Japan*
Crane: don't look
Human look
*France*
Fairy:don't look
Human: look
Crane& Fairy: what's wrong with you
So I come from Luxembourg and we have that story of, as we call her, Melusina. But there are some differences. For instance the story about her mother of father doesn't come up here, or we're simply never told. Then here it isn't a half serpent but just a simple woman that transformes into a mermaid when she bathes. She is married to the king siggismond (the first Nobel to settle in the city of Luxembourg) and he is the one that sees her while bathing. Here he doesn't open the door, but she somehow, notices that he looked through the door hole and then she jumps out of the window of the castle into the river (alzette). It is said that still today she lives there. Oh and here nothing is said about her, flying and screaming in the night.
But it is quite interesting to see that other countries have the same medieval myth but with time it developed into similar stories with some changes in it.
I found that the version of the story told by Extra-mithology is contained in a poem of the 14th century. The author is called Jean d'Arras,if you are interested.
Man, I love myths! I just wanted to thank you for sharing your country's variant
"So anyway, I loved your dad dearly, but he happened to see you while you were wet shortly after your birth"
Melusine: "UNFORGIVEABLE!"
I had no idea that Melusine was a name from mythology! In my language, melusine (meluzína) is a word for strong winds, usually a snowstorm, and is associated with the different pitched sounds it makes, like the whistling and howling in the trees or down chimneys. Thank you for this video! :)
Is it the Czech language? I read that chimney winds are called meluzina because it was believed the howling noises were caused by Melusines looking for her kids. I read this from a single source though so I can't confirm if it's part of actual Czech folklore
Wow! So cool. Because a synonym to mermaid is siren and in English siren can also mean loud sounds. And in mythology the sirens were singing and making noises at see. So, so cool!
“He can totally do that”.
I think we all know where This is going.
cue _Always Sunny in Philadelphia_ theme song
*He could not do exactly that*
"He held his promise and they lived happily ever after." - no legend ever
The fact that most of his children were supernatural in their physicality, and he never stopped to wonder: "Maybe what she said about not seeing her is pretty serious, huh?"
Also, like @J1P2K commented below... Just talk to your wives. It's way easier.
It's obviously magic, do not fuck with obvious magic! Just nod politely and say "Okay, thank you."
And this is where the long standing tradition of “Saturday’s are for the boys” started
😂
I read a story that melusine married a count of anjou, and was beautiful and perfect in every way, but she would always leave just before the eucharist was brought out in mass, and one day she was stopped from leaving and when the eucharist was brought out she turned into a dragon and flew away, which was why later the plantagenets joked they were descended from the devil.
The lineage Mélusine reputedly married into were the Lusignan - a famous family from Poitou (part of Aquitaine stuck between Anjou and Gascony/Guyenne).
The tale "Mélusine" is from a late 14th century author named Jean d'Arras.
I heard this story as well as the others too.
Little known fact about the Fae is that most Fae/mortal marriages end happily on account of mutual communication and respect for each others' personal boundaries.
I haven’t even finished the video and I’m already hyperventilating over the whimsical art style and wonderful mythology.
Maybe you should stay off the internet for awhile, that sounds serious.
*sigh* You sound just like my doctor... always wanting the best for my health... can you believe that my friends called an ambulance on me?!? Drama queens.
This art style reminds me of cartoons like Adventure Time.
@@notaname1750 Ooh, I was thinking the same thing!
As a Jewish person, the whole "don't see what I'm doing on a Saturday" sounds...suspicious. Coincidence I think not.
So, just to check, the guess is that Melusine was Jewish, and that she was honoring the sabbath on Saturdays while in an area not friendly to jewish people?
@@lux_incola4224 That sound like an interesting interpretation. When you look close enough, most of those stories have very real world basis. After all, myths aren't stories that are untrue ;)
It remind me a bit of the story of the biblical flood. If you look at the oldest version we know of, the one from ancient Mesopotamia, it give very pragmatic instruction for how to build the kind of river boat you'd need to survive the type of river flood that could happen in those area. It also make way more sense with the animals. They don't take a couple of each animals, they take a couple of all the differents animals they bred as livestock. Anyway, I think I went a bit off topic there
@@lux_incola4224 Sounds about right considering our history and all that.
Yeah. Crusades. Saturdays. Sounds like the fantastical version someone gave for the fact that they took a Jewish/Semitic wife or mistress.
And claimed her to be magic.
As someone with the demon countess of Anjou in their family tree, I have zero traces of any Jewish dna. That doesn't necessarily mean she wasn't Jewish as 1 clump of dna that far back can only go so far forward, but i'm still pressing x to doubt. She could just as well have been a pagan honoring the Skyfather on Saturn's day with sacrifices.
The Daughter's Revenge on their father seemed quite extreme for how minor the promise broken was
Agreed she deserved the punishment
So nobody freed the father after that?
@@-Timur1214 hard to free someone who's already dead
7:08 _"....and our fathers' fathers' fathers' fathers!" "...alright, then. Don't labor the point.."_
(Monty Python sends their regards..)
3:41 Monty Python Arthur was here
The Serpent of Woe
Whoa!
2:16 how could someone refuse HUGE TRACTS OF LAND
Fgo took me here
Yep, my great grandfather claimed to be descendant of the De Lusignan so I heard that tale many times. Also, Melusine is the symbol of Starbucks, forgot to mention.
I wonder why they chose her🤔🧜🏼♀️
Hey, really nice video. Glad to see someone talking about this legend. I come from Poitou in France and I was taught this myth during my youth. Raymond (or Raymondin in local langage) was the count of Lusignan. During the middle ages Lusignan was an important city of the Poitou and the "de Lusignan" house was believed to be descendant of Raymond and Melusine. The area near Lusignan is still today called the "pays Mélusin" (Melusine's country) proof that the legend is still living even after hundreds of years.
Imagine being one of the boys stuck with dumbo ear, a cat paw or bieber teeth while your brother gets to have the cool anime eyes
Melusine when something bad's gonna happen to the king: aaaúuuhgģh
Melusine in Paris, France, the lord's year 1793: *¡¡¡AAÁÆÍÌÜÝĢHGĞHHH!!!*
what about the french kings of spain getting replaced by habsbergs
You mean the Hapsburgs of Spain being replaced by the french Bourbons ?
Amusingly enough there was a tale from the times of revolutionary France that around the ruins of the castle of Lusignan in Poitou, Mélusine was heard one last time wailing about the grim fate of her last descendants then she was never seen, or heard again.
Seems to me like an invention, so typical of XIXth romantic writers, in love with dramatic legends.
This made me laugh harder than I Should’ve.
No joke, this kinda sounds like the plot of Shrek
Is a very common type of fairy tale known as "the animal bride": Man meets woman, they both get married but the woman make him promised to make a vow about not doing something, years later man breaks vow, woman runs away when her secret is revealed, and everything goes crap after this.
I wonder why can't the fae explain their terms to the humans they interact with...
Right? You'd think that Melusine would explain why it is that she can't be seen on Saturdays
Bro how the heck are you two at 18 and 16 hours ago
@@nethascotx24 patreon
Because then there would be no story.
i mean if you come from a land where literally everyone is basically running their own you-tube prank channel you learn to be cunning on reflex.
A boy with one red eye and one blue eye... Did he later join the Disfavored, by any chance?
wait why does it say "11 hours ago"? This video came out 5 minutes ago
Wait what 11 hour ago?
I was thinking Phi from BBBT (Beyblade Burst Turbo) but idk
*cough* Yozora.
Melusine is also a servant from fate series.
King: *sees giant dragon... snake thing?*
Also King: *chuckles* I'm in danger!
Let's take a moment to consider that Melusine had healthy children despite their anomalies.
Country: Isle of Avalon
Government: Autonomous Collective.
I read a book once that was a double biography of Joan of Arc and of King Charles' mother Yolande of Aragon. The author argued that Melusine was an archetype for fidelity and betrayal, and Joan of Arc was a Melusine figure, so to speak (person with supernatural power, used their powers to reward a patron, betrayed by the patron). It's called 'The Maid and the Queen" and it's by Nancy Goldstone.
Philippa Gregory also brings Melusine into the Wars of the Roses in her Rivers trilogy
@@alisaurus4224 nice!
Charles VII (legal and biological) mother was Isabeau de Bavière ; but they simply hated and despised each other.
Yolande of Aragon was only Charles mother-in-law, but she was the only maternal figure he had.
The two women hated each other as well.
So the story’s moral is: dude, don’t be a peeping Tom, at least with mysterious women in the woods.
And here I am looking for FGO Melusine comp
imagine pulling melusine and actually getting her
*cries*
just spent $300 for Melusine and haven't gotten her :((
FGO needs to upgrade their pity system at least :((((((((
gl on the reruns yall. i got two copies in the first 2 multis so never give up!!
6:53 AWWWWWW that's heartbreaking.
"Just what was his wife doing every Saturday" chillin with the girls, the hell.
mfw my recommendations are faster then my notifications
been there
Moral of the story: don't stalk women. Not even your wife. Also don't be angry at a father you have nothing to do with.
*Every story about a bargain with the fae*
Guy: I can totally do that.
Narrator: Yeah, he's going to screw it up.
Not always! Unfortunately, the one that comes to mind is Welsh and therefore unspellable. :p Pwyll or something like that?
For a second I thought this gonna be another Yuki Onna story.
When you see a flying serpent in the clouds, you’re royalty!
Orrrrr..... you’re an Australian on a typical Monday afternoon.
Melusine in my mind is the name of one of the houses for Bauxbatons school for wizardry
So here’s the thing:
Ten children…
So she would have been pregnant a total of 7 years, and if they were back to back, the 6weeks between each pregnancy would be another 5 years…
They would have been together for 12 years at the minimum. And during that time, both she didn’t think to tell him, and he didn’t think to ask…
It was 18 or so.
Luxembourg mentioned! That’s so rare but always happy when our tiny country in Europe gets represented lol
Next french legend : the Tarasque !
DnD characters :"run, run away for your life !"
Oh, I didn't think that would ever end up here! This is a not so well known tale, which hardly ever leaves its urban origin area :O
Alinus: surely I'll be able to resist seeing my wife and kids bathing!
Me: *flashbacks to Nergal's visit to the Underworld*
You mean Innana/Ishtar ?
Fun fact : In my childhood city of Bailleul in France, they have a big metal statue of Mélusine in the top of the town house’s tower. Thanks for the video.
So happy this one was covered
_"The battle is about to begin."_
Oops! Seems I clicked on a BazBattles video by mistake...
Came here, but you had already arrived =D
They never leaarn!
No one ever meets a woman in the woods near a river singing a haunting melody and suspects a thing. despite all the stories!!!
🎶 I ain't sayin she a gold digger, but man that Faye is a cruel trickster 🎶 💰💰💰👩👫
Also, depending on the historical period and the location your at, being royalty isn't always a good news ...
Matt my man, you outdid yourself this time. Really this was fantastic!! Big credits to everyone at EC.
Extra mythology: if you see a giant serpent in the sky good news your royalty
Also me: *chuckles* I'm in danger
"the battle is about to begin"
me, a bazbattles watcher: HYPE
Nice lesbian pride flag on the boat. Gave me a chuckle :)
At least I wasn’t the only one to spot that
I love Extra mythology
And here I thought she was Albion’s left paw
This is literally why you discuss things like "Why can't I see you saturday?" with your spouse, because "I'll turn into a horrible monster" is a pretty good reason to give someone privacy
6:29 When your in the ocean and something touches your foot.
i'll always remember melusine as that cute which from the comic book i read while a kid.
i should buy those someday, still never read the full thing.
The house of Lusigna，which claimed to be descents of Melusine，was from France and once ruled Cyprus.
Nothing says "mother's love" more than cursing your child horribly, for cursing a guy that broke his vow and angered you enough to isolate and alienate your daughters from the entire world.
Thanks for teaching me about all these lesser-known myths 😊
Hmmmm interesting boat ya got there 3:42
i swear these people who work at extra credits are legends
I loved this one! I've never heard this one before & I know alot of myths. Can you guys please do ALL the myths with this same narrator?
What would happen if a human accidentally broke a vow like this?
“Yes he break him promise but I still love him! My dumb daughter!”
Did you use Scottish shield for Armenia?
That's the shield of the Armenian Kingdom of Cilicia, a Crusader kingdom.
That is the heraldry of the House of Hethumid, who ruled Armenia during the 1200s-1300s.
@@josephbrant9665
The Lusignan allied themselves through marriage with the Hetumids of Armenia and were the last kings of Armenian Cilicia.
They were also at times kings of Jerusalem and Cyprus.
Their genuine history is just as extraordinary and ambitious as those of the great norman (Rollonids, Hauteville...) and angevine families (Plantagenet).
This was the ultimate karen took the kids thing XD
She still flies around the castle of Poitier with another name : Rafale.
Love the little details in the end animation :) .
If only the fay I once loved had had such simple and straightforward terms for her to give her love
Royal Legitimacy through Dragons, huh? I guess this is what the Targaryens were partly based from.
The Melusine on Monster Musume didn't seem too picky about promises and matrimonial obligations.
6:30 when see the imposter vent and you stand there for a second trying to reassure that your eyes saw bet then the imposter jumps out of the vent and chases you
You: AHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH HHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH
In a story which i know, she had a serpent tail.
The conditions are similar to Mahabharata story of Shantanu and Ganga.
There is a french or belgian comics called melusine .
~sees Melusine~ Oh hey, I'm royalty.
~insert Ralph meme~ Haha, I'm in danger.
7:35 why exactly are u in danger ?
LUXEMBOURG RULES
Nice vid man.
Why can't guys in mythology follow the rules their wives made for them this reminds of that japanese mythology about Izanami and Izanagi
Because we're idiots.
Alternatively, why can't magic wives in mythology realise that you can't really expect someone to follow these sorts of rules perfectly.
@@iapetusmccool you trying saying that to powerful goddesses or the love of your life that you can't follow her rules
Alas, Melusine, had you simply told your husband you were cursed on Saturdays, you may have been able to avoid this fate.
Let´s see... "Hey sweety, do you wanna marry me even if I turned into a monster every Saturday?" Do you really think he would accept to marry her if he knew her secret?
And this is was a time where hentai wasn´t invented, so the kink for lamias wasn´t a thing yet.
@@nidohime6233 come on, the earliest legends have people mating with horses, boars and even lions so this won't be too new.
@@KasumiRINA Yeah, but then christianity came and ruined all the fun :v
I wonder what happened to Melusine's sisters
5:55
Mukuro, what are you doing here?
Yay, luxemburgish folklore. FINALLY. Although different from what we were taught at schools
What is interesting is that the Mélusine legend has two nuclei, two areas a bit far removed from one another : the Ardennes (Luxembourg) and the Poitou (Lusignan).
Not forgetting the passing mentions about Armenia, (Caucasian) Iberia and Albany (the town in Scotland) and of course, the faerie kingdom.
Wait a minute...
Both couples met near a waterbody?
Both females were supernatural?
Both promises were broken?
Sounds suspiciously similar to the tale of Ganga and Shantanu from the Mahabharata...
Thanks for the insight ; myths around the World can often be very similar.
Exactly! interesting if a group of people migrate from a place, they also take the stories...
Ha! He offered her ... large... TRACKS of land
Next time can you cover the “lo specchio di Misurina” (Misurina's mirror) myth? it's a popular myth in Veneto, Italy and i would really apreciate to watch this is this channel
Greek Mythology: Unfortunately, Zeus was horny and Hera sued for alienation of affection.
Norse mythology: Unfortunately, Loki was bored/wrathful and he made that everyone else's problem!
Fae mythology: Unfortunately, you broke your end of the deal you made with your Fae spouse.