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  • Harry Kane missed his second penalty vs France in the quarter finals of the 2022 FIFA World Cup. talkSPORT's Jim White, Simon Jordan and Martin Keown discuss!
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  • @aidentitus224
    @aidentitus224 ปีที่แล้ว +756

    Why can’t people just accept that Kane didn’t rise to the moment?

    • @AllThisOverASliceOfGabagool
      @AllThisOverASliceOfGabagool ปีที่แล้ว +36

      Kane couldn't have risen to the moment if he was given viagra, that's how impotent his second penalty was

    • @ashwilliams4959
      @ashwilliams4959 ปีที่แล้ว +14

      Last year, he was almost sold for around 150m. The amount of people whodve been involved and had a small packet of that is more than sports fans realise. He's barely worth 50m but the English tax and putting him up amongst names like Messi and mbappe helps bump his price

    • @mkdon101
      @mkdon101 ปีที่แล้ว +14

      English always wana find excuses

    • @joewhite22
      @joewhite22 ปีที่แล้ว +8

      @@ashwilliams4959 Kane not worth £50m? 😆Yeah ok

    • @mikedon5205
      @mikedon5205 ปีที่แล้ว +6

      @@AllThisOverASliceOfGabagool maybe it was too much viagra

  • @thelegendthatischels
    @thelegendthatischels ปีที่แล้ว +682

    Calling Harry kane a national hero is quite frankly offensive , keown doesn't live in the real world.

    • @ashwilliams4959
      @ashwilliams4959 ปีที่แล้ว +10

      Confirms simons comments moments before

    • @antwango
      @antwango ปีที่แล้ว +9

      Kane aint my hero, Kane aint evn my captain ffs

    • @xpedisinusantara7758
      @xpedisinusantara7758 ปีที่แล้ว

      Well you should be on England squad then??? What a joke! If you think what Harry kane did was easy, get a life. Running your mouth when u probably don't even know how to kick a ball in a professional soccer arena just like Simon himself.

    • @gavinmitchell4477
      @gavinmitchell4477 ปีที่แล้ว +9

      He lives in a world where he cares about there feelings too much rather then Truth.

    • @DF-so1lx
      @DF-so1lx ปีที่แล้ว +16

      I'm an Arsenal fan and Keown embarrassed me big time calling Kane a national hero. A hero gets the job done and gives the country something to be proud of. Blazing a big penalty over the bar the way he did does not make him a hero to me. A hero is someone like Saka or Rashford who bounced back from a disappointing moment (euros penalty misses) where they were accused of letting the country down yet bounced back to be two of our best players this world cup and had fans demanding they play every game. Thats a hero

  • @monkey39128
    @monkey39128 ปีที่แล้ว +505

    Mbappe scoring 3 penalties past a keeper who's better at saving them than Lloris really made me rethink Kane's miss. The top players get it done. Penalties can be saved but there's no excuse for not hitting the target.

    • @joewhite22
      @joewhite22 ปีที่แล้ว +14

      Would he have missed if he'd been facing a keeper he plays with who has known him for almost 10 years though? Because I'm sure that would have been running through Kane's head too on top of the other pressures. Probably why he missed the target altogether.

    • @leverholme9894
      @leverholme9894 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      Spot on

    • @freddieqmercury5961
      @freddieqmercury5961 ปีที่แล้ว +6

      I just said the same thing, it should be on target.

    • @monkey39128
      @monkey39128 ปีที่แล้ว +7

      @@joewhite22 I don't know, it's possible. I'd like to hear Kane tell us, honestly, exactly what went through his head. We'll probably hear about it in a book one day.

    • @L0rdsmokey
      @L0rdsmokey ปีที่แล้ว

      Upupguf

  • @SK-nj6qo
    @SK-nj6qo ปีที่แล้ว +320

    I’m an Arsenal fan and he’s an Arsenal invincible but God does Martin utter some complete dross most of the time.

    • @tabmana960
      @tabmana960 ปีที่แล้ว +8

      Same here and agree

    • @markchappell1358
      @markchappell1358 ปีที่แล้ว

      Ye Henry n lauren wouldn't miss

    • @garyrae5413
      @garyrae5413 ปีที่แล้ว +15

      He rates himself an intellectual,unfortunately for him he has to debate Simon…schooled every time .😂

    • @paulrichards6894
      @paulrichards6894 ปีที่แล้ว

      most should all the time

    • @joshdrasticmeasures
      @joshdrasticmeasures ปีที่แล้ว

      I despise him more and more when I listen to his BS

  • @iswhatitis1361
    @iswhatitis1361 ปีที่แล้ว +160

    Did he just call a footballer a 'hero' 😂😂

    • @monkey39128
      @monkey39128 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      I know, total nonsense. The idolisation of these people is ridiculous. Like today we've got the Messi and Ronaldo fans fighting all over social media. What they all fail to realise is they're both tax dodging ars*holes.

    • @kylejohnson5764
      @kylejohnson5764 ปีที่แล้ว

      Out of touch moron..

    • @920mario
      @920mario ปีที่แล้ว +8

      Yes what's wrong with that? Messi , Pele, Maradona and Both Ronaldos are heros! But Harry Kane ain't one he is a tottenham player lmaooooooooo

    • @stephenconnolly2582
      @stephenconnolly2582 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@920mario both ronaldo? Hahaha classic. That Portuguese ronaldo is a spoilt brat

    • @YouAintGotNoTegridyBoi
      @YouAintGotNoTegridyBoi ปีที่แล้ว +12

      @@920mario hero worshipping sports stars or anyone for that matter is ridiculous.

  • @adamliston4823
    @adamliston4823 ปีที่แล้ว +86

    Keown said our performance was remarkable against France!
    I can't deal with him

    • @davidthevaleter5636
      @davidthevaleter5636 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      I thought we played well and could have gone through. We didn’t. We certainly didn’t play remarkable that’s just insane 🤦🏼‍♂️

    • @blueleaf1717
      @blueleaf1717 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@davidthevaleter5636 Yeah I agree, we were the better side for the majority of the game but as is always the case with England tournament in tournament out, we do not capitalise on our chances. Granted we didnt create many in this match against the world champions which is what you would expect, but neither did they, they just scored the ones the did create.
      Average teams make chances, but top teams take chances.

  • @letstalk7233
    @letstalk7233 ปีที่แล้ว +92

    Kane skyed the ball over the bar into the stands. That wasn’t a near miss it was a huge mistake

    • @Alan-jb3kb
      @Alan-jb3kb ปีที่แล้ว

      Why are we digging out Harry when 3 black players miss their penalties and it was in the final but now won said anything and we still take the knee for blm Zaha don't take the knee and that is why Southgate do pick him for england

    • @radiosports1
      @radiosports1 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@Alan-jb3kb Bruh Zaha is an Ivorian international. That's why he's not picked for England. And the pens that England missed in the Euro Final were atleast on target. Well Rashy was just slightly off

  • @g-stergaming4502
    @g-stergaming4502 ปีที่แล้ว +123

    The only thing slower than Holland's play during this World Cup was Martins commentary

  • @jack7195
    @jack7195 ปีที่แล้ว +120

    Martin always plays that "bitter owner" card, when Simon starts spitting facts😂

    • @monkey39128
      @monkey39128 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      He does 😂 I despise the internet phrase "cry more" but Martin might be the one person that phrase could actually apply to 😂

    • @kingflixmovies837
      @kingflixmovies837 ปีที่แล้ว

      He's right though, every player misses penalties every now and again, Messi, mbappe, Ronaldo, etc

  • @WiilWaalShow
    @WiilWaalShow ปีที่แล้ว +71

    Thank you Mr. Jordan. Mbappe showed Kane how it’s done.

  • @jhamielw6920
    @jhamielw6920 ปีที่แล้ว +107

    Kane is class, Messi and Mbappe are world class. different levels. Don't ever think for a second Kane is world class.

    • @FreshAlchemy
      @FreshAlchemy ปีที่แล้ว

      Idiot.

    • @rogerpayne5336
      @rogerpayne5336 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      100% !!

    • @rockosmodurnlif
      @rockosmodurnlif ปีที่แล้ว +10

      Messi missed penalties too. I remember last year or sometime there were pundits debating whether or not Messi should take pens. Kane sailed a pen over the bar, he should have done better but he’s still world class. There’s not a lot of teams who wouldn’t switch their striker for him.

    • @travisbickle5829
      @travisbickle5829 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      Exactly. I will never dispute Harry Kane’s quality because you’d be foolish to do so. He’s a fantastic striker, he’s just not God’s gift to football like the English make him out to be.

    • @ak_1979
      @ak_1979 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      @@rockosmodurnlif and what did Messi do? Score 2 pens in a game… twice in the highest stage. There’s no excuses for Kane to at least hit the target

  • @fredsflintstone3702
    @fredsflintstone3702 ปีที่แล้ว +55

    Mbappe shot every penalty the same way. That's confidence.

  • @bfb187
    @bfb187 ปีที่แล้ว +131

    01:25 Simons face saying “19 years of age” over and over 😭😭

    • @thf3038
      @thf3038 ปีที่แล้ว +47

      He wasn't 19, he was 22

    • @bfb187
      @bfb187 ปีที่แล้ว +10

      @@thf3038 tell him not me, I'm just quoting him

    • @ashwilliams4959
      @ashwilliams4959 ปีที่แล้ว +9

      @@thf3038 he was 22 in 2018... he's 23 now lad

    • @thf3038
      @thf3038 ปีที่แล้ว +16

      @@ashwilliams4959 The penalty miss that Keown was referring to was the Euro 2021 round of 16 match vs Switzerland, not the 2018 world cup. So he is 23 in 2022, which would make him 22 in 2021.

    • @joewhite22
      @joewhite22 ปีที่แล้ว +6

      @@thf3038 Simon's whole point folded on itself when he got Mbappe's age wrong. Not to mention we're talking about an already experienced 22 year old who turned up in big moments in the last World Cup.

  • @thefivepoints
    @thefivepoints ปีที่แล้ว +28

    I liked how sympathetic Keown was towards Rude Van Nistlerooy when he missed that injury time penalty at OT in 2003.

    • @jayholder283
      @jayholder283 ปีที่แล้ว

      😂😂😂😂😂💯💯👍👍👍

    • @DarkshadeMusic
      @DarkshadeMusic ปีที่แล้ว

      Different context

  • @leemoffat159
    @leemoffat159 ปีที่แล้ว +168

    Harry Kane a national hero 😂😂😂

  • @biniamdebesay6594
    @biniamdebesay6594 ปีที่แล้ว +46

    I think most people would agree that in the biggest moments you would rather have Mbappe taking the penalty than Kane. Note: Mbappe already has a better career than Kane.

    • @josphatkamau227
      @josphatkamau227 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Correct
      Stupid loyalty to Tottenham is Kane's biggest mistake... He won't win shite in his career unless he runs of to Germany!

    • @mpoathyp
      @mpoathyp ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@josphatkamau227 🤣🤣Kane out of the premier League will be a big failure

    • @Resonance971
      @Resonance971 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      stop lying, before the pen miss everyone said Kane was one of the finest pen takers in the sport, heck he killed a pen prior to his miss the very same game. Too many recency bias here

    • @mpoathyp
      @mpoathyp ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@Resonance971 Not everyone use to say that did you mean the English media use to say that?😁

    • @biniamdebesay6594
      @biniamdebesay6594 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      @@Resonance971 So u saying a man tht have consistently failed to show up in the big moments was most ppl's pick to take a high pressure penalty??? Who r these ppl mate??

  • @shishhhh2
    @shishhhh2 ปีที่แล้ว +95

    Calling Football players “Heroes” is insane 😂😂😂😂😂

  • @MarcoSpeaksNadsat
    @MarcoSpeaksNadsat ปีที่แล้ว +61

    Keown being in the studio must be Jordan's highlight of the week. He is so easy to wind up lol.

    • @AllThisOverASliceOfGabagool
      @AllThisOverASliceOfGabagool ปีที่แล้ว +3

      I dunno, I think it is just childs play for Simon. I think he relishes Graeme Souness who at least gives him a bit back. We need some stern competition for Simon as there isn't any. He destroyed Piers Morgan...the bloke's a titan!

    • @GamerFrisco
      @GamerFrisco ปีที่แล้ว

      🔑-own screams in his car.

    • @olivermclean7605
      @olivermclean7605 ปีที่แล้ว

      🤣🤣exactly 💯

  • @cfcbeanz1122
    @cfcbeanz1122 ปีที่แล้ว +41

    Watching Keown trying to debate with Simon is like a watching a gazelle trying to take down a lion 😂

    • @shanet5604
      @shanet5604 9 หลายเดือนก่อน

      I like that !

  • @CB-pu9pr
    @CB-pu9pr ปีที่แล้ว +24

    Who the hell made Harry Kane a national hero, Mr Keown? Simon spot on again

  • @markchandler5095
    @markchandler5095 ปีที่แล้ว +62

    Kane choked, it's that simple. He missed the target, completely unacceptable.

    • @FreshAlchemy
      @FreshAlchemy ปีที่แล้ว +1

      It's not that simple. It's your opinion. Plenty of top players have missed penalties in big games, it happens, doesn't mean he choked. I strongly disagree with treating opinion as fact! It's not fact.
      Simon has become too full of himself, he'd roast anyone else for ranting and raving like he is and trying to argue speculative opinions as fact.

    • @travisbickle5829
      @travisbickle5829 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      @@FreshAlchemy Yes, missing Penalties does happen, but yes, it also means you choked.

    • @misterpractical
      @misterpractical ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@FreshAlchemy Mbappe hit all 3 of his penalties, the exact same way he practiced them, low and hard to the goalkeeper's right...
      Yes Martinez got close to two of them, but Mbappe's conviction and belief in what he practiced for years won out.

    • @stevethedweeb3846
      @stevethedweeb3846 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@FreshAlchemy a missed penalty when you are paid 150k a week is 100000000000000000% choking

    • @hellohi1445
      @hellohi1445 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@misterpractical mbappe is gonna be the GOAT tho. And anyways he also missed against Switzerland. Shows that players like him can miss too.

  • @bisonkambaine5628
    @bisonkambaine5628 ปีที่แล้ว +34

    "You need to let go....It's time to let go to what happened to you at Crystal Palace" When did Simon sign up for therapy sessions with Keown? 🤣🤣🤣

    • @FreshAlchemy
      @FreshAlchemy ปีที่แล้ว

      I prefer Keown myself, he has his flaws, sure, but at least he's not a pompous, pretentious, yuppie dick like Simon is.

    • @monkey39128
      @monkey39128 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Keown has lost the plot.

  • @mycoshe
    @mycoshe ปีที่แล้ว +131

    Everything Simon Jordan said was spot on!!

    • @theblues8840
      @theblues8840 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      Except the multiple things he got wrong like mbappe and messi not being 19 and both of them players have missed penalties

    • @FreshAlchemy
      @FreshAlchemy ปีที่แล้ว

      Clearly it isn't since he's basing his entire argument on an assumption, which is only his persaonl opinion, not a fact. People's opinions aren't correct just because you agree with them. To be correct something has to be factually accurate, not just something that sounds good.

    • @920mario
      @920mario ปีที่แล้ว

      @The Blues if Southgate was gone it would be different

  • @markpatterson2764
    @markpatterson2764 ปีที่แล้ว +54

    Martin obviously wasnt checking social media last night where Harry Kane's massive whiff was trending as much as Mbappe and Messi's greatness

    • @Dr_MKUltra
      @Dr_MKUltra ปีที่แล้ว +3

      😂 Kane's penalty has just passed Mars at this point 😆

    • @VoiceOfThe
      @VoiceOfThe ปีที่แล้ว

      @@Dr_MKUltra
      It’s still orbiting planet earth as we speak.

  • @roysten59
    @roysten59 ปีที่แล้ว +66

    Harry Kane won a golden boot on the back of penalties. He was lauded for it, but now he’s missed one he can’t be judged…

    • @GIBBO4182
      @GIBBO4182 ปีที่แล้ว +6

      Messi and Lewa both missed penalties THIS tournament

    • @tomadams94
      @tomadams94 ปีที่แล้ว +11

      @@GIBBO4182 and? It turned out not to matter, in Messi’s case at least. Had he missed questions should of been asked.

    • @GIBBO4182
      @GIBBO4182 ปีที่แล้ว +6

      @@tomadams94 I’m simply pointing out that better players than Kane have missed penalties 🤷🏻‍♂️

    • @randomas5565
      @randomas5565 ปีที่แล้ว +6

      @@GIBBO4182 they hit the target

    • @Iron-Bridge
      @Iron-Bridge ปีที่แล้ว +6

      @@GIBBO4182 But no high altitude planes and endangered species birds flying overhead were harmed when the other players didn't convert their penalties.

  • @victorjustine
    @victorjustine ปีที่แล้ว +39

    Simon took the words right out of my mouth when he said "at nighteen years of age"😅

    • @Two_Seat_Pete_FatA55
      @Two_Seat_Pete_FatA55 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      Except he was 22 or something. It was last year.

    • @travisbickle5829
      @travisbickle5829 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Lol wasn’t the Euros last year?? He’s turning 24 tomorrow.

    • @monkey39128
      @monkey39128 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@travisbickle5829 He ages in dog years.

  • @mt9022
    @mt9022 ปีที่แล้ว +97

    And this is exactly why Southgate remains in post. Ex players, pundits, current players all feeding the English fans the absolute drivel that this team is a success and we’re going places under Southgate. All this nation does is champion failure and make heroes out of bottle jobs. The expectations of Gareth Southgate is insanely low and he is literally under no pressure. He’s living the dream currently, he can’t lose

    • @VoiceOfThe
      @VoiceOfThe ปีที่แล้ว

      Harry Kane. Bottle job. Lol

    • @jeannotschumacher1024
      @jeannotschumacher1024 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      You all forget that not a single english player has eather a) the quality of the french players nor b) the fighting spirit of the argentines .
      30 years ago or so the b) might not have been the case.
      Don't take this as offensif. It's the reality. Southgate, the players and some pundits know this deep down know. Martin Keown is very "Terre à terre" here and i think he's wright. Take it or leave it.

    • @deathfromabove4605
      @deathfromabove4605 ปีที่แล้ว

      Southgate has no knowledge about football tactics, how to break down teams, how to attack, defend, what an idiot to be still the coach

    • @myhatmygandhi6217
      @myhatmygandhi6217 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@jeannotschumacher1024 on paper England are as good as most top teams, they just keep bottling it when they face the elite.

    • @jeannotschumacher1024
      @jeannotschumacher1024 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@myhatmygandhi6217 i don't think so. It's pure english media hype.
      Have a look at stones , maguire and pickford for example... I mean...come on.

  • @rebelrebel1411
    @rebelrebel1411 ปีที่แล้ว +9

    It’s the difference between the very good and the elite. Pressure moments

  • @amrithbharadwaj4945
    @amrithbharadwaj4945 ปีที่แล้ว +15

    Why are people so offended by Simon's opinion on Kane missing the penalty? He missed it, whether that was because he didn't make the right contact or he over thought and got in his head.
    Keown is right, Messi did miss a penalty to lose a Copa America final. And he got criticized for it and rightly so. And so should Kane.

  • @justiceoforiszn5390
    @justiceoforiszn5390 ปีที่แล้ว +14

    This got personal🤣🤣🤣🤣

  • @emz7
    @emz7 ปีที่แล้ว +7

    Those 3 penalties from mbappe has really shown kane didn’t have the minerals 😭

  • @yarns1701
    @yarns1701 ปีที่แล้ว +20

    Keown please don't quit ... love how you get battered by Jordan every week!

  • @robj8201
    @robj8201 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    Love the bit where Keown looks over his shoulder…’looking for Tony Adams to back him up again’….😂

  • @vicsdunleavy21
    @vicsdunleavy21 ปีที่แล้ว +22

    Simon Jordan is spot on with his analogy for the simple fact that Harry Kane fluffed his lines because he was asked to take his second penalty in normal time against his club colleague.
    Mbappe in a World Cup final at 23 showed what Harry Kane should have done in the QF. He didn’t even get it on target. Those are the moments where unfortunately he’s shown he’s not quite in the absolute upper echelon of top world class forwards. Of course anyone can miss a penalty but look at the careers of Messi and even Mbappe (still only 23) - you can’t compare what Kane has achieved in terms of trophies to them. Kane hasn’t won anything unlike those two and he has had opportunities as well. The Champions league final where he was essentially non existent, World Cup semi where he missed a massive chance to go 2 up against Croatia and now this pen in the QF.

  • @shinyface971
    @shinyface971 ปีที่แล้ว +15

    I haven't heard one bad take from the English media about England. It's all 'how well we played', 'they all get on', 'hope Gareth stays'. At the end of the day England failed and we are kidding ourselves

    • @FreshAlchemy
      @FreshAlchemy ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Then you haven't listened to talksport over the past week then.

    • @damianduguid6253
      @damianduguid6253 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@FreshAlchemy Talksport the only ones talking differently

    • @russellthechemist8291
      @russellthechemist8291 ปีที่แล้ว

      I thought the USA were better than us in the group game too. We got a bit lucky there. We have also been relegated in the League of Nations. We are a bit crap, actually. Southgate is a weak link.

  • @ellishall127
    @ellishall127 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Tbf Keown telling Jim to 'Listen and he might have a decent contribution for once' was an absolute banger. Even a broken clocks right twice a day

  • @curtis9320
    @curtis9320 ปีที่แล้ว +13

    Kanes an odd striker to me, on his day no doubt in my mind he's up there among some of the best right now but he goes through so many periods where he can go missing and feels like whatever team he is on they're already a man down. Even mentally he just doesn't strike me as a winner.

    • @damianduguid6253
      @damianduguid6253 ปีที่แล้ว

      theres a video on TH-cam that tells Kane's life story and how he came to have the weak mental state of mind that he has

    • @brocklanders796
      @brocklanders796 ปีที่แล้ว

      You are right, Harry Kane isn't a winner. When he does manage to play in a final for Tottenham or England e.g. League Cup Finals, Champions League Final or European Championship Final he does nothing.

    • @curtis9320
      @curtis9320 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@brocklanders796 in fairness I don't really blame Kane for the CL final, I thought it was baffling Poch picked him over Lucas, even as a Liverpool fan I think Lucas would've been more problematic against us considering he's the reason they were in the final in the first place. I dunno what it is with alot of these managers insisting on playing him I'm sure if he died at some point they'd just throw his corpse up front. Funnily enough despite how much our media villifies him I think his best football was under mourinho.

  • @ixlimacixl
    @ixlimacixl ปีที่แล้ว +31

    Keown is either on drugs or he should be 😂😂😂

    • @miamitten1123
      @miamitten1123 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      😂 clever

    • @andyburns8869
      @andyburns8869 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      100% sniffing glue and petrol
      Comparing Kane to Mbappe.. 😂

  • @OSIthatgamer
    @OSIthatgamer ปีที่แล้ว +5

    It doesn’t just come down to penalties, Kane has underperformed a lot in the games that matter. His scoring record on paper is good but when it really matters that’s what people remember

  • @kingl6969
    @kingl6969 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    Martin: i like apples
    Simon: i love apples too!
    Martin: nevermind, apples are a disgrace

  • @player11x
    @player11x ปีที่แล้ว +5

    Mental fortitude of Mbappe yesterday was through the roofs. He knew exactly where he wanted to kick the ball in the net and whether Martinez knows that or not already doesn’t matter, I’m gonna score anyway. Mental strength:: Elite level.
    Big player

  • @VR46314
    @VR46314 ปีที่แล้ว +50

    Mbappe is something special

    • @imouto4hire
      @imouto4hire ปีที่แล้ว +15

      A true world class player, unlike Kane.

    • @garythatcher4219
      @garythatcher4219 ปีที่แล้ว

      Yes totally agree and what a game to...

    • @eXpressYourselfClips
      @eXpressYourselfClips ปีที่แล้ว +1

      It's no longer debatable

    • @lfcspectre4335
      @lfcspectre4335 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Cauley = Top LAD Proper Clobber 💯 Facts

    • @calm123
      @calm123 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      How about that bottler Harold Kane🤣🤣

  • @williamcowan5053
    @williamcowan5053 ปีที่แล้ว +23

    Simon Jordan speaks the most sense I've heard as any pundit out there

    • @sibonisoduma5878
      @sibonisoduma5878 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Bruh he is a genius.

    • @FreshAlchemy
      @FreshAlchemy ปีที่แล้ว

      @@sibonisoduma5878 Yeah that's why he works for trashy tabloid radio station talksport. Grow up.

    • @FreshAlchemy
      @FreshAlchemy ปีที่แล้ว

      He's not a pundit William. Pundit implies a level of expertise. He's not a football expert. He doesn't know what he's going on about most of the time when ti comes to football. He likes to think he's an expert at business and finance though, even though he's a failed club owner who's been reduced to working on this garbage platform 5 days a week.

    • @GamerFrisco
      @GamerFrisco ปีที่แล้ว

      Simon Jordan is a genius

  • @Slice998
    @Slice998 ปีที่แล้ว +11

    At 19 years of age? It was last year FFS and it cost France. Martinez also got his hand to 2 of 3 penalties he took as well. Kane did bottle it but these margins are incredibly fine and it can happen to anyone in the heat of the moment. Messi has also missed critical penalties in his career too. It happens.

    • @FreshAlchemy
      @FreshAlchemy ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Simon has convinced himself that Kane bottled it, which is a shameful position to argue from as he is doing here, because he simply cannot prove that his position is factually accurate. Arguing vociferiously from a position of speculation is a bad idea and he must know that, yet he does it anyway. Too sure of himself.
      I agree with your comment and the fact is, we'll never know if Kane choked or simply did not strike the ball as cleanly as he wanted, but as you say, any player can miss a penalty sometimes, it happens. Simon is making an idiot of himself here.

    • @miamitten1123
      @miamitten1123 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Got his hands to it isn’t a save. The keeper dived to his right 6 out of 7 penalties.

    • @calm123
      @calm123 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      Kane always bottling it though, those guys are leading teams to victory

  • @danielpinatecaballero2612
    @danielpinatecaballero2612 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    Kane didn't just miss. He skyed it over the bar. He definitely succumbed to the pressure.

  • @De3dSh0t
    @De3dSh0t ปีที่แล้ว +4

    "but Mbappe missed last time"
    "But Messi missed in the final as well"
    Ok, and? That means they succumbed to pressure in those instances as well, nobody called Kane a serial bottle job, he just folded in that specific game

  • @007feck
    @007feck ปีที่แล้ว +5

    The problem today is that SJ is talking hard facts, whereas Keown wants to hand out medals to all the kids who entered the competition because otherwise it might hurt their ego

  • @nomintro2141
    @nomintro2141 ปีที่แล้ว +7

    After watching France last night, I realised we never had a chance against France

    • @FreshAlchemy
      @FreshAlchemy ปีที่แล้ว +3

      Well that's total bullshit

    • @travisbickle5829
      @travisbickle5829 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Imagine England in that WC final game😂😂

    • @nomintro2141
      @nomintro2141 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@FreshAlchemy they never got out of second gear bud, they knew our end game, whole world consider us spurs of international football bud.

  • @eddi3m
    @eddi3m ปีที่แล้ว +10

    Mbappé was 22 years old - the Euros were only played last year in the summer.
    Both Simon and Martin make valid points here, IMO. Any player can miss or fail at any point, but for me is more of HOW often do you miss/fail.
    Also, players can be ‘heroes’ of achievement and excellence in their own fields but that obviously pales in comparison to real life heroes, so to speak.

  • @glazersout4272
    @glazersout4272 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    I would also like to bring up the fact that at least one or possibly two of Mbappe's penalties could've been saved - the keeper got his hand to them. Fine margins...

  • @jashraf255
    @jashraf255 ปีที่แล้ว +8

    Spot on Simon!

  • @Alejandro_543
    @Alejandro_543 ปีที่แล้ว +10

    Lmfao Simon is the GOAT this man always entertains with his ruthlessness 😂😂

  • @Tom-dn6zy
    @Tom-dn6zy ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Messi scored a brace in a world cup final. And has scored in 2 champions league finals. Mbappe scored in 2 world cup finals, including a Hattrick. These guys have performed in big games and still get criticism when they occasionally choke. Harry Kane has never performed in a final ever and he shouldn't get criticism when he chokes?

  • @patrickryan5570
    @patrickryan5570 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    The Mbappe equaliser against Argentina was one the greatest goals ever in a World Cup Final - Harry Kane is fantastic player however Mbappe is in a different class - Most football fans accept that - This is a clear case of Kane is not in the same league as Mbappe and Messi.

  • @byrin
    @byrin ปีที่แล้ว +18

    Simon calling a spade a spade.

  • @DoFi12
    @DoFi12 ปีที่แล้ว +21

    You can miss a pen if your Messi and Mbappe when they’ve already achieved loads. When your Harry Kane, a serial bottler, you HAVE to score

  • @LaRafa7
    @LaRafa7 ปีที่แล้ว

    I do appreciate watching these two go at it.

  • @777tractorboy
    @777tractorboy ปีที่แล้ว +6

    Simon spot on as usual

  • @MarcoSpeaksNadsat
    @MarcoSpeaksNadsat ปีที่แล้ว +4

    I hope they clip the last couple of minutes of the stream where Keown accuses Jordan and White of getting back handers in Qatar, and they both burst into laughter at the same time. It was classic lol

    • @FreshAlchemy
      @FreshAlchemy ปีที่แล้ว

      Nervous laughter is a tell-tale sign. It's not a coincidence that Simon "everyone has a price" Jordan dramatically changed his opinion on state-owned football clubs after meeting with Nasser Al-Khelaifi. Keown has a point, to be perfectly fair.

    • @MarcoSpeaksNadsat
      @MarcoSpeaksNadsat ปีที่แล้ว

      @@FreshAlchemy I wonder how her indoors has taken to Simon's sudden appreciation of the Middle Eastern States lol.

  • @haydenhoodless2055
    @haydenhoodless2055 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    I think Simon is right, and I thought the exact same watching Mbappe take those pens. Kane is captain, he gets paid quarter of a mil a week, a player whose supposed to be up there with the best of the best, and he buckled under the pressure. It is precisely because Kane is so good that he should not be let of the hook for missing penalties in important moments.

  • @barfly1984
    @barfly1984 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    If the phrase 'bottled it' was in the urban dictionary it should have a picture of Kane's penalty.

  • @jamiejonesisjamie
    @jamiejonesisjamie ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Harry Kane also BOTTLED his pen in the euros against Denmark but got lucky with the rebound

  • @chiderajames8387
    @chiderajames8387 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    I knew these guys will talk about this today 😂

  • @saadnaeem8060
    @saadnaeem8060 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Harry Kane is the only player ever to be deemed world class without winning a single medal at club and international level

  • @mitchellryan7784
    @mitchellryan7784 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Simon is spot on about praise 😢

  • @shahinbahadori6890
    @shahinbahadori6890 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    Simon is spot on 😁😁😁😁

  • @mariusschulz2926
    @mariusschulz2926 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    At 3 min 50 Mark: Simon is so damn Spot on! 👏👏🇩🇪🏴󠁧󠁢󠁥󠁮󠁧󠁿✌️👍

  • @PeppeQuintile94
    @PeppeQuintile94 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Simon schooling Martin on a weekly basis is amazing 🤣

  • @13leaguestotwomorethanyou
    @13leaguestotwomorethanyou ปีที่แล้ว

    The producer loved that no doubt. 😂😂😂😂

  • @AldershotDave
    @AldershotDave ปีที่แล้ว +4

    I do like Simon Jordan! 😀
    I’d love to hear what his opinion is of Roberto Baggio (one of the world’s greatest player at the time) missing in the penalty shootout for Italy in the 1994 World Cup Final.

    • @jim526
      @jim526 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      I’m pretty sure Maradona , Zico and Socrates all missed penalties at a World Cup .

    • @FreshAlchemy
      @FreshAlchemy ปีที่แล้ว

      Oh, so that's Simon Jordan? I thought she was Clare Balding.

  • @hellobanking802
    @hellobanking802 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    There's no love lost between Simon & Martin,is there? If looks could kill.😂

  • @wibbletthewobblet9558
    @wibbletthewobblet9558 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Simon and Jim are the Simon Cowell and Louis Walsh of sport broadcasting

  • @michaelashton4454
    @michaelashton4454 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Keown must hate having a debate with Simon 😂

  • @geekaleek
    @geekaleek ปีที่แล้ว +8

    _"It's time for you to let go of what happened to you at Crystal Palace"_ - Martin Keown.
    😂🤣

    • @AllThisOverASliceOfGabagool
      @AllThisOverASliceOfGabagool ปีที่แล้ว +6

      To be fair that was the only part where I cheered Keown on. The rest? He's proper wet behind the ears

  • @cviasco8571
    @cviasco8571 ปีที่แล้ว +14

    Out of my group chat, 9 of us out of 15 said he would sky it over. He can’t handle the pressure

  • @Dead-Ball-Situation
    @Dead-Ball-Situation ปีที่แล้ว +19

    This was a painful listen and Keown collapsed.

  • @rossgordon235
    @rossgordon235 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    man said “our national hero”😭🤣🤣😭🤣🤣

    • @imouto4hire
      @imouto4hire ปีที่แล้ว +1

      England is a truly finished country if a loser like Harry Kane is held up as a national hero. 😂

  • @gaving9041
    @gaving9041 ปีที่แล้ว

    We saw with Messi, his flexibility and repertoire. He can absolutely nail a penalty (like Kane can) but he can also stare down the keeper and roll the ball in the other side of the goal. Being able to switch it up and do the unexpected is what separates the good from the greats.
    I was not surprised in the slightest that Kane missed the 2nd penalty. You could see the terror etched on his face.
    My biggest gripe with Kane lately is how deep he drops for England. We need him in and around the box keeping defenders on their toes and being available for crosses but he seems like he wants to be in midfield more these days and why Southgate and the coaching staff aren't telling him where he needs to be is really grinding my gears.

    • @damianduguid6253
      @damianduguid6253 ปีที่แล้ว

      Kane doesn't have a repertoire of PK. He blasts it everytime invariably in the same corner. Messi yesterday was rolling it in and taking the piss. kane cant do that

  • @AJ-qv1rs
    @AJ-qv1rs ปีที่แล้ว +4

    As a Spurs fan, my heart goes out to Kane. But, when he was asked to step up and do a job, he didn't, and he was found wanting. Will he bounce back? Yes... but accept the criticism; the penalty was up there with the worst penalties you will ever see at a major tournament. Keown, my word, what a plum!

    • @Adaobieistyping
      @Adaobieistyping ปีที่แล้ว

      I’m also a spurs fan. Serious question; do u think kane is world class?

    • @damianduguid6253
      @damianduguid6253 ปีที่แล้ว

      Kane has secured his spot on the BBC panel, when he retires, with Lineker and Shearer. He will get to to glorify a tournament semi final place, as if it was a victory, Just like Alan and Gary do rn

  • @ahmedyusuf3396
    @ahmedyusuf3396 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    Simon Jordan is being logical and fair, meanwhile you have Martin Keown on the other side being emotional and virtue signalling. Absolutely appalling.
    If players can be praised an celebrated when they are doing well, they should be equally as criticized when they are not doing well.
    Harry Kane for me is a good PL player, but he lacks that cutting edge at the highest level. If he wasnt brittish, no one would be singing his praises.

  • @joewhite22
    @joewhite22 ปีที่แล้ว +10

    There was a slightly different psychological battle for Kane since he was facing Lloris, who knows him so well. People are treating the penalty like it stopped us from winning. We would have just lost in ET afterwards or on penalties. The fact is we were always playing catch up and were relying on pens to get goals. Maybe we should have scored in open play like France did.

    • @L1am21
      @L1am21 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      His lack of pace is too much me. for put him number 10 role and put a forward or 2 ahead of him and take captains arm band off him. he cant talk and southgate keeps playing Henson as his leader so just make him captain already.

    • @joewhite22
      @joewhite22 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@L1am21 Kane is not the problem. The problem is not having more quality like Kane. He's our only world class player. If we did then we might not have needed him to convert 2 penalties.

    • @L1am21
      @L1am21 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      @@joewhite22 kane is a problem as he never actually plays up front the amount of crosses in box where he is not there is ridiculous.

    • @joewhite22
      @joewhite22 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@L1am21 Maybe Southgate needs to tweak the system to accommodate then?

    • @adversity3600
      @adversity3600 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      What ? Psychological battle? My friend Do you Think it's easy to Face Emiliano Crazy Martinez 3 Times!!! .....ask any footballer who they'd rather face Martinez or Hugo Lloris?

  • @rfurms
    @rfurms ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Everytime I watch these guys go at it, I can just sense that they genuinely do hate eachother

  • @twisteddancer7773
    @twisteddancer7773 ปีที่แล้ว +21

    Simon wins again. To be fair it's not hard with Keown

  • @UncleBurntApostrophe
    @UncleBurntApostrophe ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Facing Loris was prob the kicker! If Mbappe was facing his club keeper, prob diff

  • @kadarabdullahi
    @kadarabdullahi ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I wouldn't judge Kane just on a penalty miss. If anything blame Southgate for asking his most prolific striker to also be the playmaker and defender. Mbappe does virtually nothing when France doesn't have possession but is lethal when they attack.

  • @adetayoadesola7306
    @adetayoadesola7306 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I love Simon and Martin’s synergy a lot more than any other. Martin is calm and respectful - you can tell that Simon respects Martin and likewise

    • @JnoPrds
      @JnoPrds ปีที่แล้ว

      Speaking slowly with a low voice doesn’t mean someone is calm and respectful. It could also mean they are slow at forming a response or loves the sound of their own voice, like Keown.

  • @coolcat1022
    @coolcat1022 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    Let’s not forget that Harry Kane is an outstanding player who’s scored nearly 200 PL goals for Spurs. We all see that Mbappe is a level above with him delivering in the big moment and Kane doesn’t but we gotta remember that every player is only human at the end of the day. misses can happen

    • @hikedeco9749
      @hikedeco9749 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      That's the difference between world class and elite, Harry Kane is world class,Mbappe is Elite

    • @nigget-tv-videos4135
      @nigget-tv-videos4135 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      but also when players accept praise they should also accept the vice versa, and when the matters great people rise to the moment.

  • @sithemperorpalpatine870
    @sithemperorpalpatine870 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Keown reacting emotionally again. The facts are the facts.

  • @johnneil14
    @johnneil14 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I love this stuff.

  • @jasonmortimer3420
    @jasonmortimer3420 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    Simon as ever spot on Kane bottled it simple

  • @kevinpillay6103
    @kevinpillay6103 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    As harsh as Simon makes it sound he is right. When you are a leader like Kane is those moments are what you are needed for. When the goalkeeper makes a brilliant save that's life he guessed correct and saved it. Kicking it like a Rugby conversion is another story. Empathy and sympathy for those earning 250k a week and only want praise and no criticism.

    • @FreshAlchemy
      @FreshAlchemy ปีที่แล้ว

      Simon? Oh, I thought that was Clare Balding. Is it not???

  • @eniolaabifarin3260
    @eniolaabifarin3260 ปีที่แล้ว

    Can we please have a show involving Simon Jordans,Craig Burley and Roy Keane...total carnage

  • @lifeson90
    @lifeson90 ปีที่แล้ว

    was the manner of the miss that begs the bottle question, was a bleedin rugby conversion, highly unusual for a player with such an awesome penalty record. Being the 2nd penalty he asked to take quite quickly after the first, in such a momentous occasion with so much on it possibly a new experience for Harry and new experiences can screw people up at first. As such don't think he bottled it, just didn't have the know-how at that time to deal with such a new situation

  • @cameronhawkins6033
    @cameronhawkins6033 ปีที่แล้ว +14

    Martin lives in a dream land

  • @forevergooner4400
    @forevergooner4400 ปีที่แล้ว +10

    Simon is spot on. He bottled it in that moment. Harry is our best player but he felt the pressure and went out of character.
    Martin expects footballers to get all the praise and no criticism.

  • @leepatrick9432
    @leepatrick9432 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I wonder how long it will be until we hear,there was a physical altercation between Simon and Martin 😂

    • @FreshAlchemy
      @FreshAlchemy ปีที่แล้ว

      You won't need to hear about it, you will know it happened when you see Simon wearing a neckbrace and sporting a black eye.

  • @bfcrangers5411
    @bfcrangers5411 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Nothing better to watch than Simon ripping Martin a new one 🤣🤣🤣

  • @MrJevman
    @MrJevman ปีที่แล้ว +24

    Martin still making excuses for failure. This mindset is why England will never win anything.

    • @nuncaolvidare4895
      @nuncaolvidare4895 ปีที่แล้ว

      Sí sí sí sí
      Estoy de acuerdo

    • @AllThisOverASliceOfGabagool
      @AllThisOverASliceOfGabagool ปีที่แล้ว +2

      My estimation of Martin Keown as a man has plummeted since joining TalkSport. I thought that he was a true leader of men, after all he was in one of the greatest footballing sides in British football history. Yet here, he talks like a fucking wet lettuce. It's an absolute disgrace

    • @gemmawalker7385
      @gemmawalker7385 ปีที่แล้ว

      England were beat before they even started think we mist sterling's pace and hard running always looking to get in behind. I would of played grealish instead off foden can't see what all the fuss is about he not strong enough yet I would rather mark him that kounde bullyed him he not a left winger

    • @nuncaolvidare4895
      @nuncaolvidare4895 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@AllThisOverASliceOfGabagool aw ♥ my .... dios mío....🤗
      At last a man after my own heart. So to speak. Exactamente my thoughts. Everything you said. I'm so let down. He's so unmanly. I'm a lass and it's so wet. It's horrible 😞 man up

  • @um8778
    @um8778 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    Gorilla arms literally said "national hero" 😂😂😂😂

    • @FreshAlchemy
      @FreshAlchemy ปีที่แล้ว

      Better to be gorilla arms than be a spitting image of Clare Balding, like Simon is.

  • @cswaters85
    @cswaters85 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    So Keown didn’t like hearing criticism from Jordan about his “hero” Kane, and after Jordan answers Keowns attacks, he attacks Jordan personally. When you attack someone on a personal level, you’ve lost the argument.