Martin Keown & Simon Jordan CLASH Over If Arsenal's Bukayo Saka Needs MORE PROTECTION From Fouls 😳🔥

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  • TalkSPORT's Martin Keown and Simon Jordan lock horns over Arsenal speaking to the PGMOL for more protection for Bukayo Saka.
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  • @markbarber5646
    @markbarber5646 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +204

    They need to remove all discussions on Arsenal when Keown is in the studio, objectivity means nothing to him.

    • @arranmelaugh5606
      @arranmelaugh5606 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +16

      Doubt it! Jim and Simon do it on purpose cos they know how biased Martin is! 😂

    • @sofakingspurs
      @sofakingspurs 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

      They need to remove Keown. FIFY ;)

    • @problemstube7266
      @problemstube7266 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      Then you wouldn't watch talksport

    • @matthewm3869
      @matthewm3869 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      but its incredibly entertaining

    • @Tarek_ElMaddah
      @Tarek_ElMaddah 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Simon in the opposite side lacks objectivity when they talk Arsenal too.

  • @IanDavis-fs8dd
    @IanDavis-fs8dd 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +31

    The funny thing is, if Martin was playing against Saka he'd give him a 'reducer' the first chance he got.

    • @ronnyron4681
      @ronnyron4681 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

      If it was Messi then it is a foul.
      Like the saying "become hypocrite is easier than become honest".

  • @fyarlynx
    @fyarlynx 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +47

    Keown is a classic "He should be top fouled" television gold

    • @nadeemamode
      @nadeemamode 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      I always crack up whenever someone touts the most fouled statistics.

    • @fyarlynx
      @fyarlynx 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@nadeemamode 😂😂🤣 classic

    • @ronnyron4681
      @ronnyron4681 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

      ​@@fyarlynx
      But if it was Messi then nobody would argue on it.
      See the Hypocrisy!!!

  • @faswani
    @faswani 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +49

    I'm just looking at Simon's face as Martin is speaking😂😂

    • @ronnyron4681
      @ronnyron4681 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

      As long as Simon is alive and exist, England will not win any trophy.
      Mark my Word!!!

  • @brendancrowe1179
    @brendancrowe1179 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +139

    What's mad is that Keown doesn't actually realize how stupid his take on this is 😂

    • @didierdugary6995
      @didierdugary6995 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

      You don't have to be disrespectful to him. Learn how to accept other people's opinion

    • @deanobrady3
      @deanobrady3 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +6

      @@didierdugary6995 no there is peoples opinion and there is stupidity! There is literal facts in front of him that 2 players are fouled more and he’s trying to say Saka is the most fouled! A spades a spade! The guys is a clown!
      Don’t be a snowflake and call it what it is

    • @vianneyluyima5094
      @vianneyluyima5094 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

      Probably your understanding of the situation is more stupid than his take on the matter.

    • @MrBannystar
      @MrBannystar 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      @@didierdugary6995 Why shouldn't we disrespect obvious stupidity? Especially when it's on show week after week?

    • @Superpity07
      @Superpity07 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Wenger out

  • @alhagitunkara
    @alhagitunkara 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +25

    Martin Keown reminds me of Ty 😂

    • @Tombola8610
      @Tombola8610 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +5

      Get them in a room together comedy gold 😂😂

    • @alhagitunkara
      @alhagitunkara 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@Tombola8610 honestly ridiculous

  • @tanman966
    @tanman966 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +132

    When Martin is arguing against *facts* , he’s really clutching at straws

    • @Scuttleftw
      @Scuttleftw 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +6

      @@JordiBoy_ He's right though. The amount of times Saka is fouled but it's not given is outrageous. That's what Keown is saying. He should be at the top of the list IF the referees were giving the challenges as fouls, when they should be.

    • @robhernandez5520
      @robhernandez5520 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

      ​​​​​​​​​​@@ScuttleftwI wouldn't bother arguing with rival fans they're playing dumb just to be able to criticize something about Arsenal. Anyone with common sense understands what Keown is saying but once again they just don't want to.
      Using the argument that he statistically doesn't get fouled more is like saying a burglar doesn't commit burglaries just because corrupt police officers never arrest him. Regardless of what the police do the burglaries still happened. Regardless of what the refs do and the stats say he's still getting fouled a lot more than they are calling to a degree that's unacceptable

    • @willtallis5275
      @willtallis5275 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      @@robhernandez5520shut up it happens to every teams best players that’s what do,es with being the best player at your time how about he hits the gym and gets stronger and doesn’t bring on so many fouls change his game how about that

    • @robhernandez5520
      @robhernandez5520 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

      @@willtallis5275 Yea I agree it happens but not to the extent that it's been happening with Saka. It's actually ridiculous to the point where somethings gotta be said

    • @willtallis5275
      @willtallis5275 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      @@robhernandez5520 deluded most of the time he goes down over nothing if he wasn’t always looking for a foul then he might actually get more it’s his own fault and arteta for telling him to okay like that and not changing

  • @Mod1Tk
    @Mod1Tk 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +56

    Bit rich how one of the dirtiest players in PL history is moaning about a player getting fouled 😂

    • @nickmildon6348
      @nickmildon6348 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

      I find it so bizarre, the hardest player has become the softest man

    • @IanDavis-fs8dd
      @IanDavis-fs8dd 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      Spot on!

    • @ArtetasCreche
      @ArtetasCreche 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

      He's become soft just like the Arsenal fanbase now.

    • @ianjones2731
      @ianjones2731 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

      ​@@nickmildon6348Western culture in a nutshell

  • @VillaMalvern
    @VillaMalvern 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +34

    Martin has lost the plot here. Deluded Arsenal fans who think the world is against them and they are entitled to a free pass for every game. Unbelievable

  • @Collier990RHCP
    @Collier990RHCP 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +20

    I’m sorry but Saka isn’t good enough for team to target in that way. He’s a good player but it’s not like Messi getting volleyed every week in Spain.
    Playing against Arsenal as a fan of another team I’ve never felt some fear or that the players need to get into Saka 😂

    • @ryanflood635
      @ryanflood635 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      Yeh same here. I like saka but I certainly don’t see why players would fear him. He isn’t this amazing player that can take on anyone. The best thing I see him do is thread the ball into a gap. Everything else he does is just ok.

    • @BiggestBirdonMars
      @BiggestBirdonMars 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

      ​@@ryanflood635people aren't afraid of him
      It's just that Arsenal wide players usually get a lot of one on one situations so you have to tackle or foul them to stop them from getting away or getting a chance
      Arsenal fans think he's world class for some weird reason

    • @mf289
      @mf289 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      @@BiggestBirdonMarsno they don’t, they get doubled up on every game.

    • @semiseriousgooner
      @semiseriousgooner 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      I don't agree with the point Keown is making but he's double and triple marked every game.
      It's a main reason why we look so poor at the moment in comparison to last year. Teams have worked out he is the one that's gonna hurt you and mark him out the game.

  • @brianharkin
    @brianharkin 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +90

    Nobody has abused Saka more than Arteta who plays him week in and week out even when it is obvious that young man needed a rest. No wonder he gets plenty of fouls the young man plays every minute of every game

    • @rakimrobinsonMCFC
      @rakimrobinsonMCFC 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Pair that with the fact that Arsenal attacks the box more often than not through Saka that also runs up the numbers.

    • @southpaw1689
      @southpaw1689 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

      💯

    • @amajeet
      @amajeet 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Ita unfortunate that Pepe was no where near good enough and that Marquinos needs more time, but he might not even make it as an Arsenal player.

    • @MrGoldie1976
      @MrGoldie1976 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      He plays football for a living something that he loves ..He should play every game at that age😅

    • @fyarlynx
      @fyarlynx 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

      💯💯💯

  • @diarmuidquinn4902
    @diarmuidquinn4902 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +12

    Keown surely just trolling at this stage 😂

  • @stephenphillips3883
    @stephenphillips3883 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +14

    Saka falls over at the slightest touch, especially recently when he's playing poorly it's like a crutch for him, he gets less fouls than he should because he's trying to buy ones he shouldn't and has a reputation that is, in my opinion, fairly earned. Grealish should have the same rep but for some reason the refs love giving him a FK when he tumbles to the ground, the difference between him and a player like Salah for example is startling.

    • @RJ-ns6kr
      @RJ-ns6kr 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Lies lies lies, there’s a reason he’s the third most fouled.

    • @d3po607
      @d3po607 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

      if this where true he would drop soo much more in the box which he never does

    • @Lioness_UTV
      @Lioness_UTV 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

      IF you take away the bias, take a look at the FK's Grealish gets. He lures players in and holds the ball, he is genuinely fouled. He holds the ball less at City than Villa but either way he often gets really hard chops and he just gets up, walks away and as he said his greatest revenge is assisting or scoring. He has been like that since he was a teenager. I have seen him fake a foul and honestly it's so obvious it's embarrassing 😅

  • @sofakingspurs
    @sofakingspurs 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +43

    Growing up watching Keown play it is honestly very hard to believe that this is his personality off the pitch.... He comes across so soft, lmao....

    • @myabiaah
      @myabiaah 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      he isn’t soft, he’s just doing the job his former club pays him to do, PR

    • @rolocadbury2036
      @rolocadbury2036 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      That's just stupid. That's like saying that boxers or UFC fighters can't be nice people because of what they do but I'm sure a lot of them are nice people

    • @sofakingspurs
      @sofakingspurs 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@rolocadbury2036 Didn't say anything about "nice".

    • @rolocadbury2036
      @rolocadbury2036 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@sofakingspurs he pretty much said he comes across as soft after being a tough defender during his playing days. It's the same thing. I doubt most boxers go home and give their wives and kids a beating just coz it's what they do in the ring

  • @stevet9418
    @stevet9418 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +29

    It really bugs me when refs don’t give a yellow just because it’s the beginning of the match, and also when they don’t give a second yellow when it is blatantly a yellow card offence.

    • @toddhellyar4167
      @toddhellyar4167 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

      You just described the culture of Chelsea

    • @vandammejam
      @vandammejam 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

      It’s called common sense

  • @thomaswood1272
    @thomaswood1272 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +42

    Watching Villa beat Arsenal i watched Saka get pressured abut 8 times, none of those occasions were what i call a bad tackle or foul. What i did see was Saka go down easy every time begging for fouls. Saka needs to show more tenacity in my opinion.

    • @truegunner7223
      @truegunner7223 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      He does not even go down in the pen box barring on the odd occasion ...you are a Saka hater.

    • @rogerdavies2796
      @rogerdavies2796 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Grow up​@@truegunner7223

    • @user-gt9vc4zz1j
      @user-gt9vc4zz1j 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      As a neutral saka is going down to easy​@@truegunner7223

    • @didierdugary6995
      @didierdugary6995 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      You must hate Saka

    • @chrisweaver5222
      @chrisweaver5222 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Saka is mentally and physically soft

  • @nickmildon6348
    @nickmildon6348 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +9

    It's as if when Keown retired from football he also handed in his man card

  • @Jay-id8ym
    @Jay-id8ym 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +11

    'He's not the most fouled, but he should be', what kind of logic is that? Yes there probably has been challenges on him that warranted a foul that weren't given, but how many that were given shouldn't have been? How many should have been given on other players that weren't given? We could go on and on about this forever and still not come to the same conclusion, completely subjective.

    • @dreadybunks3411
      @dreadybunks3411 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

      because he does not get the calls , hence not the fouls

    • @Jay-id8ym
      @Jay-id8ym 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@dreadybunks3411 I stated above he probably doesn't get some, I like how you ignored literally everything else I said.

  • @ifldiscovery8500
    @ifldiscovery8500 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +44

    I am getting sick of Arsenal and all their crying.

    • @mattjacko08
      @mattjacko08 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +11

      Ya not the only 1 dude, action man flappin about on the touchline winds me up every game aswell

    • @rosshaugh7937
      @rosshaugh7937 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +6

      I think we all are. Arteta is loathsome at this stage and Saka has been diving for a few years now and getting away with it.

    • @snipergunner563
      @snipergunner563 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      Well do something about it😂😂

    • @malcolmodoy2651
      @malcolmodoy2651 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      "Hair flick" FC at it again

    • @halilmenevili205
      @halilmenevili205 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      I'm getting sick sick of var for double standards

  • @garronkaramitas4215
    @garronkaramitas4215 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +21

    2024 and Keown still waffling!!!

    • @alenton81
      @alenton81 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Makes Danny Murphy look intelligent & interesting 😂

  • @rebelwithacause8735
    @rebelwithacause8735 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +13

    Saka tackles dirty. He have a style to run up behind you and then just put his foot across you. He hurt Tsimikas that way. Also did it numerous times in his last few matches.

  • @chrisweaver5222
    @chrisweaver5222 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +5

    Keown is just amazing, he wants all sorts of rules to be altered to benefit arsenal, maybe we should just remove the other 19 teams from the league. We were proud to see grealish top of the fouls list as he showed that he was such a dangerous player.

  • @DanielMartin-kk9tc
    @DanielMartin-kk9tc 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +9

    poor Martin, zero self awareness

  • @nabillarif
    @nabillarif 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +6

    just a reminder , Saka should have been send off agasint Liverpool...go and watch the tackle

    • @rosscleary9110
      @rosscleary9110 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Lmfao. No.

    • @mf289
      @mf289 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Was a shoulder to shoulder, pool player just wasn’t strong enough.

  • @ryanflood635
    @ryanflood635 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +9

    The fact he is 4 foot 2 and about 8 stone wet through probably has something to do with getting fouled. You only have to look at him and he is on the deck.

    • @jameshamblin8440
      @jameshamblin8440 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Yeah, those stats seem legit

    • @ryanflood635
      @ryanflood635 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      @@jameshamblin8440 5,10 and 10 stone. If you can’t see through the obvious exaggeration. Iv had bigger roast dinners than him lol.

    • @mf289
      @mf289 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@ryanflood635he’s actually incredibly strong if you watch him properly. Just gets kicked, just like Diaby, Eduardo, Aaron Ramsey. They should have just toughened up shouldn’t they?

    • @willtallis5275
      @willtallis5275 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@mf289yeah they should hit the gym and get stronger and maybe adapt his game to not invite fouls all the time and how many times does this kid look for fouls the whole arsenal team do it and have done since arteta has been there always looking for fouls not every contact is. Foul and he’s still arguing with facts arteta wouldn’t have said anything if his team won the last 5 games but becuzse they haven’t won in 5 he need a to complain about something rather than just geting his team to play better and score more it’s Always everyone else’s fault but their own

    • @mf289
      @mf289 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@willtallis5275 hitting the gym doesn’t stop you snapping your leg from a studs up challenge.

  • @RobertConway-im2ux
    @RobertConway-im2ux 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +5

    boo hoo hazard had that no moans there

    • @teknique1409
      @teknique1409 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Exactly he even said its a compliment

  • @daviddenham1511
    @daviddenham1511 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +5

    Football will be a contactless sport the way things are going……”touch soccer”

  • @jamiehiggins4794
    @jamiehiggins4794 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

    Love Simon smirking before that fool starts speaking

  • @earleendesilva272
    @earleendesilva272 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    I applaud Martin for speaking TRUTHS about these 2 consistently trying to CREATE a NARRATIVE about ARSENAL!! It was a meeting and NOT a letter written 1st of all. How did the complaint become public knowledge? I wonder if any other clubs concerns for their team will be leaked like Arsenal's was. Protection means players get carded with their !st hard challenge NOT the 5/6 tackle. CARDS ARENT BEING GIVEN HENCE THE COMPLAINT!!!

    • @FoxunitedFC29
      @FoxunitedFC29 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      Bore off 😂😂😂😂

  • @lfcspectre4335
    @lfcspectre4335 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

    Sir Simon = Top LAD Proper Clobber 💯 Facts

  • @sauceboy6929
    @sauceboy6929 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    The statistics provided are fouls when the ref deems it a foul and gives a free kick. keowns point is that he is the most fouled (with or without the ref blowing the whistle).

  • @bowser515
    @bowser515 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

    Has Martin lost all sense of reality these days? Every time he speaks, I genuinely wonder if he's just winding everybody up.

    • @ryanbarry34
      @ryanbarry34 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      I know he's so far inside his own mind sometimes, mayhem in there

  • @hassshoban8206
    @hassshoban8206 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Saka himself play dangerous fouls, he should have been sent off against Liverpool. He shoulder charged Tsimikas out of game to the hospital.

  • @Graziak5
    @Graziak5 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

    Arsenal are turning from a well respected club into a joke. Whining about VAR and refs having an agenda against them, manager throwing tantrums on the touchline every week, now crying that one of their players is the 3rd most fouled player in the league? Need to get a grip

    • @mf289
      @mf289 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Klopp spent the entire Newcastle Game moaning. He also said the same about salah in previous years. But yh it’s all arsenal.

    • @Graziak5
      @Graziak5 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@mf289 klopp is just as bad. Just because one does it doesn’t mean another doesn’t.

    • @mf289
      @mf289 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@Graziak5 the narrative is hardly the same is it? Pep does it as well

  • @theboomletgroup8436
    @theboomletgroup8436 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    "Fulham were Bullying Arsenal" its called football you Numbty

  • @edavis6077
    @edavis6077 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

    How do u put Keown on radio?

  • @nawafalbaqami1328
    @nawafalbaqami1328 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Keown is absolutely right, players can do a couple of dirty fouls on Saka and yet not get booked. Hazard used to deal with that and look what happened to him since he moved to Madrid. Players need to protected, and refs can set the tone very early in the game. Stop hating on Arsenal and be objective.

  • @underwoodproductions
    @underwoodproductions 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

    If you hog the ball too much …. You’re going to get tackled …. Maybe saka should pass it more and quicker ?

  • @dsvp4825
    @dsvp4825 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +12

    What he actually needs is for arteta to find a suitable back that can play so saka doesn't have to play 100 percent of games .
    It was so obvious how saka gassed out last season from being overplayed and he still hasn't gotten a rest . It's going to happen again this year.
    Arsenal will regress this year after spending all that money because Arteta doesn't know how to rotate a squad

    • @onelove-1994
      @onelove-1994 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      Arteta game management poor.

  • @WinterburnDesign
    @WinterburnDesign 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

    Martin ‘PGMELO’ Keown

    • @mnf94-60
      @mnf94-60 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

      😂😂😂😂

  • @franklinsaint84
    @franklinsaint84 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    I'm not an Arsenal fan but Keown is 85% right he almost touched on it but bottled it by not saying why. Grealish, Foden get awarded a foul if someone passes wind next to them. Salah and Saka have WWE wrestling done to them in front of some linemans eyes every game but get nothing. Your gonna then say but what about VAR. VAR doesn't need to get involved in decisions that don't lead to a goal/or involve dangerous play. It's blatant discrimination. Ooooh but what about Jordan Ayew, does it really matter if he gets awarded them or if he doesn't. Think about it that PGMOL is a controlled dictatorship mafioso organization. Who has been influencing games since the mid 90s

    • @sofakingspurs
      @sofakingspurs 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      So you think its a league wide conspiracy not to give fouls on saka and salah do you?

    • @franklinsaint84
      @franklinsaint84 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@sofakingspurs When's the last time you remembered Salah to have dived? Simon Jordan mentions at every opportunity that Salah goes down like he's been shot every time he talks about him. While Kane, Grealish and co go down at every chance they get to get con a free kick. Shearer was up in arms about Jota the other day but calls Kane clever. I'm not a fan of either Arsenal or Liverpool. I just call out unconscious bias when I see it. And if you can't see it your one of them or worse.

    • @Graziak5
      @Graziak5 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@franklinsaint84 Kane, grealish, salah and Saka all dive.

  • @user-gt9vc4zz1j
    @user-gt9vc4zz1j 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    I remember bernado silver hanging off salah and salah didnt get the foul.
    Silva did

  • @jimjogger306
    @jimjogger306 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +15

    Arsenal are pathetic for this, Players win fouls, Players get fouled mostly because of the style of football they play, Nothing more.

  • @kubensamiuel5176
    @kubensamiuel5176 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    "He should be top" 🤣🤣🤣 What a joke of a pundit.

  • @OlusolaA
    @OlusolaA 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Another stat they failed to mention:
    Most cards drawn in the Premier League this season (fouls won in brackets):
    14 - Raheem Sterling (31)
    9 - Morgan Gibbs-White (32)
    8 - Josh Brownhill (18)
    8 - Luis Díaz (22)
    8 - Anthony Gordon (38)
    7 - Phil Foden (33)
    7 - Bukayo Saka (43)
    What this means is that you have to foul Saka SIX TIMES before a card is drawn. The other two guys on this programme are biased against Arsenal and it’s clear.

  • @msinco571
    @msinco571 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Anyone with eyes can see saka getting kicked from the moment the game kicks off

  • @londonsfinest6070
    @londonsfinest6070 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

    There wasn't a specific letter sent to PGMOL dedicated to tackles against Saka, this is an issue that was brought up in a general meeting that was about something more important, this isn't a separate issue.

  • @abdulrahmanahmedshire4594
    @abdulrahmanahmedshire4594 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    Every 4 fouls on sake there is only 1 card, martin keown didn't prepared enough the arsenal complaints is it take so many fouls on saka to give, the argument is not he is most fouled player, jim and simon did dirty on martin, they have cleraly an agenda

    • @peggi18
      @peggi18 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

      😂😂🤦‍♂️🤦‍♂️

    • @dineshravi8469
      @dineshravi8469 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Agreed, Simon clearly has an agenda against Arsenal.

  • @duwwans1224
    @duwwans1224 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Saka should be top of the list. The only reason is not is because refs don't give them as fouls. hence why the stats have not picked these.

  • @allydign2749
    @allydign2749 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    The absolute nerve of the man, after him and his mates used to target Ronaldo and try to kick him off the pitch. It used to be entertaining watching Martin constantly embarrassing himself and getting cooked by Simon….now it’s just a bit cringey.

  • @CH-vh1sw
    @CH-vh1sw 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    The only shock here is that Salah isn’t in the top 3, he’s hacked at every game but isn’t on the list because refs don’t even give free kicks

  • @Insertnamehere287
    @Insertnamehere287 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Keown constantly making a fool of himself when it comes to his defending of Arsenal lol.

  • @JamesSame-qf5uw
    @JamesSame-qf5uw 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Sakas on his back more than Keowns hairline

  • @duwwans1224
    @duwwans1224 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Simon Jordan, you need to understand subjects you argue about. They are not saying Saka should not be fouled. They are saying the refs should give them as fouls when Saka has been fouled. The refs don't even give these fouls although he's recognised to be among the most fouled players. And all you find is to bring stupid arguments about Arsenal bottling the Premier league last year, etc.

  • @ruthy0026
    @ruthy0026 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

    You would have sent him in to the stands 😂 that did make me chuckle

  • @stevenbozic8604
    @stevenbozic8604 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

    So Martin Keown, heard you love a good statistic: Ayew, Guimaraes and Saka have all played 19 games. Ayew: 65 fouls received (1st), 32 fouls committed (4th) for +33; Guimaraes: 53 FR (2nd), 30 FC (5th) for +23; Saka: 43 FR (3rd), 23 FC (11th) for +20. This would indicate not only does Saka play just as much on the edge as Ayew or Guimaraes but that on average Saka will foul more than get fouled compared to Ayew or Guimaraes. Now Martin, would you share the same opinion if Spurs approached the PGMOL for more protection of their players? Case in point. Spurs are statistically the most fouled team in the EPL this season with 292 fouls, 38 more than Aston Villa in 2nd place. Arsenal? 8th place with 215. Now compare Saka with the lack of protection Spurs' James Maddison (out with an ankle/foot injury) has received this season. Even after missing 8 matches, Maddison is still in 11th place, receiving 30 fouls. That's 2.73 per match compared to Saka at 2.26 per match. Yet Maddison has only committed 9 fouls (0.82 per match) compared to Saka (1.21 per match). Statistically, what if Maddison had completed all 19 matches this season? 51 fouls received, 15 committed for +36, nearly double Saka's +20. Why let statistics get in the way of your 'narrative', Martin?

  • @YanYnwa
    @YanYnwa 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Martin is so delusional. He is Ty of TalkSport

  • @renegadewarz1074
    @renegadewarz1074 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

    No unfortunately iwo tracks back and makes challenges that's why he gets fouled more , could say the same for almost all players who play out on the wings, but it depends on how much they track back to where they are on the list , so players like Saka who play from inside his half gets fouled alot more than maybe a Salah he stands on the half way line , this is a silly debate anyway .

  • @jameshamblin8440
    @jameshamblin8440 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Well, why don't they talk about the whole article this comes from!?

  • @nyakwargari
    @nyakwargari 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Actually, the fact that he is 3rd in the list emphasizes that his fouls are not given. "More protection" means give the fouls SIMPLE...

  • @Mike-dk7wj
    @Mike-dk7wj 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Keogh was a taller version of Chopper Harris and should talk in very measured and thoughtful tones about giving attackers a gentle time because he rarely did within or outside the rules.

    • @mikepearson3226
      @mikepearson3226 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

      I watched Chopper Harris in driving snow take out a Tooting and Mitchum amateur winger with a sliding tackle that put the player out of the match. And that was a charity game!!! Todays players don’t realize how good they have it - by my calculation, Ska is getting fouled about once every quarter of a game. Hardly excessive- this is a non debate imo.

    • @Mike-dk7wj
      @Mike-dk7wj 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@mikepearson3226 I watched Chopper regularly in the 60s as a boy, though I didn't support Chelsea. Every team had somebody like him: Utd had Foulkes and Stiles; Newcastle had Scoular; Spurs had Mackay and so on. I remember Harris trying to literally chop George Best into two at a night game at the Bridge. Best was entirely unfazed, and gave the entire Chelsea defence the run around, especially Ken Shellito marking him, and Chopper, who repeatedly attempted to kick Best into the terraces.( Actually into the greyhound track that encircled the pitch in those days.) Best was fearless and brilliant and the Chelsea crowd gave him a great ovation at the end.

    • @mikepearson3226
      @mikepearson3226 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Best was one of the greatest players I ever had the privilege to watch in the flesh. Brilliant player . I miss football in those times - on difficult surfaces in appalling weather . While it’s right to eliminate the violent tackles of those days , the game is completely different and worse for it.

  • @paulh8744
    @paulh8744 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

    1. We didnt go to PGMOL there is a monthly meeting to speak about games. 2. He is kicked off the park but not all are given. 3. It takes more fouls on him before a card is given. 4. this isnt the 1st time a manager has complained about one of his players getting kicked. 5. Again we are being told we dont like to be kicked last time we got 2 broken ankles 1 broken leg, and a broken ankle and ligament damage that almost lost his foot.

  • @calum1987
    @calum1987 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Take it as a compliment - he's the biggest threat in the Arsenal team so teams go out of their way to stop him from influencing the game! If he doesn't like it, learn to dribble like Messi!

  • @matthewmontgomery7628
    @matthewmontgomery7628 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Didn't go to PGMOL. Didn't write a letter it was in pre season conversation with club and PGMOL. Like every club has, apart from a private conversation got leaked to the press

  • @davehamilton9724
    @davehamilton9724 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

    how of his fouls are slight contact?

  • @mayeezy254
    @mayeezy254 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Arguing against statistics is crazy but more importantly Saka broke someone's collar bone nobody wrote to pgmol.

  • @gshawnuk3625
    @gshawnuk3625 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Ayew is a pro foul drawer, he entices opponents to professional foul. Zaha was pro at that too, same as what grealish does.
    Saka on the other hand is just pedestrian and dwells , as he can't go past a player with his right , his infield cut back into his favoured left foot gets him fouled for his predictable play

  • @King-Chub
    @King-Chub 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Like the same protection Van Nistelrooy needed? 😂🤡

  • @ske1598
    @ske1598 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    This is why people hate arsenal fans 😂😂

  • @nigefal
    @nigefal 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Keown the player who took no prisoners as a player imagines that Saka is the most targeted player based on nothing but his own biases.

  • @calum1987
    @calum1987 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Keown actually advocating for Arsenal players to surround and bully the ref to stop their mate getting tackled 🤣

  • @robertgrant008
    @robertgrant008 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Listen to these two clowns trying to upset keown by attacking Arsenal

  • @Birdycheeks69
    @Birdycheeks69 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Keown looks rattled here

  • @kevinrogers326
    @kevinrogers326 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Saka gets kicks from pillar to post every week. Players get 3 kicks before anything is done.

  • @mewe1771
    @mewe1771 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Sorry, but when has Keown ever stated Grealish should get more protection??? The only reason Saka is above Grealish for this stat is that Grealish has been injured this season. If Grealish had played as many games as Saka this season, Grealish would be the most fouled player ( as he usually is) and Keown would not care less....because he doesn't play for Arsenal.

  • @mikepearson3226
    @mikepearson3226 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

    I find it quite remarkable that Keown is complaining about fouls- he wasn’t exactly a bridesmaid when he played!!!

  • @harryhill-es5jk
    @harryhill-es5jk 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

    Martin talking nonsense with this one 😂

  • @dannydofficial1
    @dannydofficial1 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Protection for players. I didn't know Arsene Wenger is back 😂

    • @rakimrobinsonMCFC
      @rakimrobinsonMCFC 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      Not players. Saka just him, apparently he's being targeted for some strange reason 🤷🏾‍♂️

  • @blvckartstudios
    @blvckartstudios 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

    So what; Saka deserves special treatment, Cmon now 😂😂😂😂

  • @thomaswiedner2524
    @thomaswiedner2524 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Arsenal and arteta are the biggest crybaby in the league

  • @kfox1666
    @kfox1666 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

    It hasnt just been this season though its been the last 3

  • @Mike-dk7wj
    @Mike-dk7wj 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    I saw Best many times. The finest player I have seen live and on the worst pitches imaginable. I have seen Messi, Ronaldo and quite a few others but given they play on snooker table pitches and are highly protected by the referrees I have to give it to Best.

  • @slimbo689
    @slimbo689 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

    The last point on this is who said this on the Saka thing

  • @ALMOSTUNITED
    @ALMOSTUNITED 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Whn Saka is busy diving, Arteta goes, outta boy!!! 😩🤣🤣

  • @mondlism
    @mondlism 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Martin arguing facts with opinions....He sounds like TY of AFTV

  • @bjorn2970
    @bjorn2970 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

    They don't use their defensive skill and just lash out and foul.

  • @mewe1771
    @mewe1771 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

    The other thing that Keown is failing to mention, is that Saka dives all the time. So does Sterling, Maddison, Kane etc. so when Keown says he watches the game, why does Keown fail to mention Saka's constant diving (or Jesus, Nkethia, Havertz)...ahhh, because no one in an Arsenal shirt dives...

  • @trevorsaunders580
    @trevorsaunders580 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Like Arsenal have never had players that kicked lumps out of other players themselves.

  • @neilharryjones
    @neilharryjones 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Crystal Palace did the same with Zaha and nothing was done, Saka needs to give it back, I was only a Sunday league player but if someone was trying to intimidate me they were getting a taste of their own medicine at some point in that game

  • @mrsinghsstereos6662
    @mrsinghsstereos6662 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Saka feels he’s more entitled than Sir Marcus of Rashford

  • @juniorDaDamaja
    @juniorDaDamaja 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

    @8:32 I felt his pain hahaha.

  • @tawAAkul
    @tawAAkul 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Keown: arsenal are 4th in the league but should be 1st. Because i watched them and theyve had chances

  • @kwasikyei4873
    @kwasikyei4873 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

    The worrying bit it in all is that this is just rumours. It’s not factual that Arsenal fc actually complained to pgmlo. Even if they did, how does this come to the media, if there’s no hatred towards afc?

  • @ChubberLang
    @ChubberLang 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

    It's just clouding over the fact that we lost two games in a row and we have been rubbish. That is what we should be talking about.

  • @abo7628
    @abo7628 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Keown fighting hard to defend the 'facts' in his head,
    Simon and Jim have an easy job...

  • @skim7221
    @skim7221 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    ahahahahahahahahahaha so childish. they should also ask protection for arteta for people making fun of his hair.

  • @paulduncan789
    @paulduncan789 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Martin I love you for your time as a player at Arsenal. But this is a conversation that actually happened in real life.
    "Saka is the 3rd most fouled player after Ayew and Bruno"
    "By my interpretation, from watching football, Saka should be 1st"

  • @dreadybunks3411
    @dreadybunks3411 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

    stats do lie , I am an accountant by education , numbers do lie

  • @KellzPlays
    @KellzPlays 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

    ‘Decapitate’ when Saka actually stuck a leg out at Palhinha after the aforementioned clean tackle ffs

  • @sim0n17
    @sim0n17 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Saka needs to learn to use his right peg for more than just standing on