Always play with gearing! It's easier on the clutch and NO engine modifications equates to adding teeth will do. This is great stuff MIKE! I'm stoked for you BRO! Shout out to JUSTIN for all his help and the use of his shop and porting tool.
Michael Sabo. I would love to see more of footage of the 250R. You & JST built my dream quad and I would love to see way more footage of the 250R & also JST'S quad. Ripping around on the quads, 2 Stroke 4 Life..
Bro first of all I like you man you seem super cool. And I am really getting a kick bbn of watching you learm 2 strokes. Buuut, as an old 2 stroke guy and Little Sahara regular, I have some feedback: 1. You were short shifting sturgill's shit like a lil Beeya Beeya (lol) kidding 2. You must experiment with richer jetting. Since a lean main jet is what seized er up in Michigan, you need to definitely go up on the main jet until it starts to miss and go back down one size. That's your main jet size for that elevation. Be prepared to test jetting again in Waynoka. Bring extra jets. Put a carb tuning kit together for each of your quads 3. Check out some of the TH-cam videos on 2 stroke jetting. Your pilot, needle, and clip position work together and are crucial and it's easy once you wrap your head around the concept. Not giving you a hard time the patriot is definitely shittin and gittin...you just need to become a jetting master if you are going to be a 2 stroke guy and actually put hours on the R and the Banshee in different locations / elevations / temperature. Then do a a jetting video on the patriot and a jetting video in the Banshee. 4. Everyone rides at night at Little Sahara so you need lights as much candlepower as you can get and you will be doing a lot of turning so you will need v paddles not straight paddles on the rear. The razor front dunes tires make a huge difference but not necessary at all 5. And I will get off my soap box lol...I thought I saw sturgill adjusting the idle on the patriot up at the twist throttle. You actually want a little bit of play in the throttle cable same as a clutch cable. You set the idle on the carb. If it won't idle you pilot is off. Also a lean pilot will cause hard starting. Again you want to go as rich as you can. Old school 2 stroke tuners measure their engine's output output by how fat the engine can go on the main jet and still carburate crisp. The bigger the jet the more gas is going through it, same as increasing fuel injector size / cm rating on a modern V8 to match performance / air flow upgrades Thanks for all the effort and really hope my advice helps you out. I have literally gone through everything you are experiencing right now on this build and also ride the wheels off my Rs back in the day Now I am old and fat. Cant wait for the little Sahara video. Remember always be trying larger jets dont seize the banshee night riding on Oklahoma it will be chilly which of course leans out jetting
My 250r has been ported and doesn't seem to run right. The carb's been cleaned out. It sounds somewhat ok at idle, but when under acceleration it runs like shit. Any tips?
No break-in ? I wouldn't do a break-in in a nikasil top end, but in a steel liner... After installing it going to the dunes ? Its going to blow up 100%.. I hope no...
The reason Justin's quad is so much wider than yours in the front is because he has negative offset wheels. You have positive offset wheels. His is gonna feel a bit rougher in the chop. The negative offset wheels put a lot more stress on the front end components (hubs, spindles, wheel bearings, heim joints, ball joints, etc.), and you feel it in the bars. The positive offset wheels keep the centerline of the wheel closer to the steering pivot of the spindle, so you don't feel all the torque of hitting a rock like Justin will. The problem with positive offset is, you lose a little stability due to it being narrower. You guys could go with zero offset wheels, if you wanted to widen the stance of your quads, but keep in mind, you'll feel it a little more in the bars.
It’s funny let’s go easy on it cruise for 5-10 minutes 2 seconds in full throttle things gonna blow again if you dont take care of it I know you have the money and probably don’t care what I think
@@susdad I'm 99% sure this video was in preparation for a return to the dunes. A second visit. They made several references to rebuilding the top end which didn't happen until after 1st visit plus Justin cut his hair after the dunes as well and he has that new hairstyle in this video. I'm pretty sure this is all new footage.
@@susdad I wasn't upset man. Sorry if it sounded that way. Just wanted to make sure I didn't miss something. I love these videos but I stay busy and sometimes I miss things.
My Mikuni 40 m m Will give your bike more bottom end all the way to top end. I put it on my 2001 cr250 and man true story. Fuck I raced for 11 years and I wish I found this out in 2004 bud. And I still think you need the 2000 2001 ignition on your bike Crf 450 coil meb. I can lead the horse to water but I can't make him drink. Your bike is still lasy bud. I race micro sprints for 11 years
I can put my motor out of my race car in your bike that was done by dby Motorsports jug 1998 76.58 Bam crank 76 mm piston 270 cc and it dose have more performance than your quad dose.
Always play with gearing! It's easier on the clutch and NO engine modifications equates to adding teeth will do. This is great stuff MIKE! I'm stoked for you BRO! Shout out to JUSTIN for all his help and the use of his shop and porting tool.
Mike: "Gonna take it easy"
also Mike: slams through every gear😂
Best thing about the video was when you said do you want to ride it and dude says yeah let me go grab a helmet.
Michael Sabo. I would love to see more of footage of the 250R. You & JST built my dream quad and I would love to see way more footage of the 250R & also JST'S quad. Ripping around on the quads, 2 Stroke 4 Life..
I will own a 250 one day my step dad had one when I was younger. I absolutely loved that thing
Great video. BTW i really like the theme of colors you used on this build.
Completely different quad now could tell by the sound before that it just wasn't there yet, good work !!
Sounds sick brother keep it up 🤘
yeah dude she sounds crisp and clean . i came in 2nd in my race 10/3/2020. putting me in 3rd in year end points on my 250r
Where do you race
@@mototv5053 in louisiana in the LACC B class
Both of y'all guys did a great job love the video and both quads 🤘🤘🤘🖒🖒🖒
Wow mike looks like youguys got that thing running perfect
Great work with the two you together. Nice people
Mean looking machine Sabo!
Dudeeeeee that thing sounds SO GOOOD
Did ya go a little rich for the dunes?
Holy shit dude this makes me want a 250r. That blue bike is unbelievable
Thing sounds awesome! Both of those R's MOVE!
Sounds so much healthier!
Love Schaeffer's oil stuff is amazing
can you do a jetting video in detail with the carb? im having hard time getting mine to run correctly with the jetting
Desert Eagle, so sick.
Certainly some of the nicest 250r on youtube.
Did you have to richen it up?
What jetting did you end up going with ? Needle ? Clip position ?
Hi Michael, these front obor tires are 20x6 or 19x6 ? thansk for the answer.
This makes me wish I still had my atc 250R that thing was super fast
Nice job guys!
Damn those things are rippin bro
What jetting are you running and compression?
Bro first of all I like you man you seem super cool. And I am really getting a kick bbn of watching you learm 2 strokes. Buuut, as an old 2 stroke guy and Little Sahara regular, I have some feedback:
1. You were short shifting sturgill's shit like a lil Beeya Beeya (lol) kidding
2. You must experiment with richer jetting. Since a lean main jet is what seized er up in Michigan, you need to definitely go up on the main jet until it starts to miss and go back down one size. That's your main jet size for that elevation. Be prepared to test jetting again in Waynoka. Bring extra jets. Put a carb tuning kit together for each of your quads
3. Check out some of the TH-cam videos on 2 stroke jetting. Your pilot, needle, and clip position work together and are crucial and it's easy once you wrap your head around the concept. Not giving you a hard time the patriot is definitely shittin and gittin...you just need to become a jetting master if you are going to be a 2 stroke guy and actually put hours on the R and the Banshee in different locations / elevations / temperature. Then do a a jetting video on the patriot and a jetting video in the Banshee.
4. Everyone rides at night at Little Sahara so you need lights as much candlepower as you can get and you will be doing a lot of turning so you will need v paddles not straight paddles on the rear. The razor front dunes tires make a huge difference but not necessary at all
5. And I will get off my soap box lol...I thought I saw sturgill adjusting the idle on the patriot up at the twist throttle. You actually want a little bit of play in the throttle cable same as a clutch cable. You set the idle on the carb. If it won't idle you pilot is off. Also a lean pilot will cause hard starting. Again you want to go as rich as you can. Old school 2 stroke tuners measure their engine's output output by how fat the engine can go on the main jet and still carburate crisp. The bigger the jet the more gas is going through it, same as increasing fuel injector size / cm rating on a modern V8 to match performance / air flow upgrades
Thanks for all the effort and really hope my advice helps you out. I have literally gone through everything you are experiencing right now on this build and also ride the wheels off my Rs back in the day
Now I am old and fat. Cant wait for the little Sahara video. Remember always be trying larger jets dont seize the banshee night riding on Oklahoma it will be chilly which of course leans out jetting
such beautiful machines. touche
Waiting for little Sahara
Ay man what clutch lever do you run?
Mike what’s your setup for polishing parts?
Sounds nice and crispy
What's the name of exhaust muffler
My 250r has been ported and doesn't seem to run right. The carb's been cleaned out. It sounds somewhat ok at idle, but when under acceleration it runs like shit. Any tips?
Plug chop only way.but its sick
What kind of reed are you running? It sounds good but tuning can be perfected
I noticed Justin has an urmosi throttle, how do you like that compared to stock I’m thinking of getting one for my R
Where is the info on the rekluse for the 250r? Shit didn't think they made one.
No break-in ? I wouldn't do a break-in in a nikasil top end, but in a steel liner... After installing it going to the dunes ? Its going to blow up 100%.. I hope no...
they did eat cycles, he posted about it on his instagram and justin posted a video on his youtube too
Too bad ass quad love them
You should test the other expansion pipe you have
I wanna see the 389 vs 2003 Kfx 400... not even the 450cc.. my Kfx 400 pulled hard..
Michael you going to little Sahara in utah?
Awesome vid and bike
Killer machine !!
What did you change the gearing to?, and did you go up on your main jet?
What did you change the gearing to?
I wish my Honda crf 450R was running prime again
Love the vids
63?? i fuckin wish man 😂 dying here in central fl brother. sick quad
What tires do you have on this beast man ?
Beautiful 🤩
Sounds like the steel liner worked out well...guess i did something wrong.
Can someone tell me if I can get a raptor 700 converted to an automatic because I’m in a wheelchair and I really want a racing four wheeler
I would say go with a can-am renegade 1000
Nismo Gsus ok thanks
What’s the gearing?
Mike is there any way I can contact you, I am building my own banshee have some questions
When u coming down south
Sounds good
I want a 250r frame and fenders with a 450r motor in it, the 250r look is the best look of any quad ever made imo
I like the bike
Ya heard
Oh she bad 🤙
“Im not gonna go crazy”
The banshee should vs the 390
The R sounds sweet,I would like to see the banshee run again sometime..
Mike do you think the 390 is faster or more powerful than the 4 mil banshee?
i know the feeling when you just can't limit yourself to half throttle
RIPPING !
You should of had him help you a while ago your bike sounds like its ripping now and his bike is nasty
The reason Justin's quad is so much wider than yours in the front is because he has negative offset wheels. You have positive offset wheels. His is gonna feel a bit rougher in the chop. The negative offset wheels put a lot more stress on the front end components (hubs, spindles, wheel bearings, heim joints, ball joints, etc.), and you feel it in the bars. The positive offset wheels keep the centerline of the wheel closer to the steering pivot of the spindle, so you don't feel all the torque of hitting a rock like Justin will. The problem with positive offset is, you lose a little stability due to it being narrower. You guys could go with zero offset wheels, if you wanted to widen the stance of your quads, but keep in mind, you'll feel it a little more in the bars.
4:46
You need to rev your gears out a little more you are short shifting
He has a new top end on her and it needs a little more break-in.
It’s funny let’s go easy on it cruise for 5-10 minutes 2 seconds in full throttle things gonna blow again if you dont take care of it I know you have the money and probably don’t care what I think
All this , then it blew up at the dunes.. smh
It blew up again or are you talking about the first time?
First time... this video is in preparation for the dunes
@@susdad I'm 99% sure this video was in preparation for a return to the dunes. A second visit. They made several references to rebuilding the top end which didn't happen until after 1st visit plus Justin cut his hair after the dunes as well and he has that new hairstyle in this video. I'm pretty sure this is all new footage.
RS7JR alright man chill .. sry dude..
@@susdad I wasn't upset man. Sorry if it sounded that way. Just wanted to make sure I didn't miss something. I love these videos but I stay busy and sometimes I miss things.
My Mikuni 40 m m
Will give your bike more bottom end all the way to top end.
I put it on my 2001 cr250 and man true story.
Fuck I raced for 11 years and I wish I found this out in 2004 bud.
And I still think you need the 2000 2001 ignition on your bike
Crf 450 coil meb.
I can lead the horse to water but I can't make him drink.
Your bike is still lasy bud.
I race micro sprints for 11 years
Fuckn SNORTINN o
First
100th
Do not buy stuff from Bp racing
I can put my motor out of my race car in your bike that was done by dby Motorsports jug 1998
76.58 Bam crank 76 mm piston
270 cc and it dose have more performance than your quad dose.