I honestly don't think we'll play Talisman again (after we finish this game). I cannot imagine a more perfect game of Talisman than this one. This is the ideal game of Talisman.
I think it was in one of your early RTG videos where you mentioned that some parts of early DnD weren't fun for the player affected by them, but for everyone else at the table, and that the philosophy was more or less that, since everybody will get fucked at some point it balances out. Would you agree that Talisman follows a very similar philosophy?
Still watching this, so I don't know if you realised, you were reading from the 1995 edition of Talisman near the end, while you were doing dice with death. That edition replaced the inner region with one large space, because it was a placeholder for a tower expansion. You were confusing yourself a lot because the game was almost completely different with regards to inner region rules. Yep, video ended and you hadn't yet noticed. Go to boardgamegeek and check out the inner region comparisons, then get the 80's rules. From memory, you can go back and don't encounter stuff on the way. Tip from 30+ years ago: Take 2+ talismans and or the amulet to the inner region, even if you are a spellcaster.
God bless. MCDM has the best board game playthroughs because everything crazy seems to happen in their games! First it was traitors, lazgun-shield explosions, and the Family Atomics. Then it was the "Boards of Canada". Now it's Toads and the Horrible Black Void!
O'D describes cartoons to Matt the way kids describe them to their parents, but when they forget to say it's a cartoon so the parents think they're claiming to have seen something in real life. "I saw an evil toad. No, really, it's true!"
I have had the void happen to me and seen others lose to it also. For seasoned 2nd edition players the last few videos have epitomized the game completely. Its nice to see others playing it and reacting to it just as we did back in the day. The longest game I have personally played took 8 hours from start to finish, but some games others have played out there have gone on for far longer than that.
AFAIK you can always retreat in the plains of power. It's just when wanting to move forward you are forced to keep roll off against death or fight the wherewolf. Also when turning back, even as a toad, Yao don't have to encounter the tests. Read out during this game. So Matt-Toad should live.
Most of the original core game characters were reasonably balanced against each other, only the prophetess really stood out as broken. Most of the expansion characters were much meaner than the average core set character.
01:27:09 a bit late to answer you but if this card weighs the same as a duck, then she is a witch 🤣 Simple arthurian science there. I really felt empathy for your dispair when no one understood your reference 🥲
I could be mistaken, but thought I remember from playing this game so many times (back in the 90s) that you cannot cast spells on characters when they are in the Inner Region.
Ah, the Prophetess. OD going from an embarrassing failure against the Werewolf to possibly the *most brokenly powerful* character in the game! Nice one!
The rulebook Matt was using is the 3rd edition ruleset (not that it's much different...). But 3rd edition had a very different inner region than 2nd edition, so those rules may clear some things up for the next game (though...probably not LOLOLOL)
what a great session with you then tom dying. Would love to see you guys play Spartacus the board game one time think it would be a good session to watch.
Matt says OD made an error, but I plaued a game last night on the PC and the NPC Ghoul who won had a total combat strength of 5. Meanwhile I had 10 and lost to the guardian twice, before beiing killed by a dragon. So....yeah.
Hey, am I mistaken or didnt the rules say if you backtrack the inner circle you ignore the effects on those spaces? Matt could have survived his toad-walk backwards XD edit: Ah now someone pointed it out!
Is it poor form to mention the Steam version of Talisman here? Plz delete if so. All you need is the base game to play multiplayer. You'll have access to all DLC the game host has. The only downside is you have to play with Europeans. :P
I honestly don't think we'll play Talisman again (after we finish this game). I cannot imagine a more perfect game of Talisman than this one. This is the ideal game of Talisman.
I think it was in one of your early RTG videos where you mentioned that some parts of early DnD weren't fun for the player affected by them, but for everyone else at the table, and that the philosophy was more or less that, since everybody will get fucked at some point it balances out. Would you agree that Talisman follows a very similar philosophy?
@@ni1ix Yeah!
@@ni1ix This playthrough was perfect because the distribution of fuckery was damn near flawless all game long. So good!
Still watching this, so I don't know if you realised, you were reading from the 1995 edition of Talisman near the end, while you were doing dice with death. That edition replaced the inner region with one large space, because it was a placeholder for a tower expansion. You were confusing yourself a lot because the game was almost completely different with regards to inner region rules. Yep, video ended and you hadn't yet noticed. Go to boardgamegeek and check out the inner region comparisons, then get the 80's rules. From memory, you can go back and don't encounter stuff on the way. Tip from 30+ years ago: Take 2+ talismans and or the amulet to the inner region, even if you are a spellcaster.
Schadenfreude!
God bless. MCDM has the best board game playthroughs because everything crazy seems to happen in their games! First it was traitors, lazgun-shield explosions, and the Family Atomics. Then it was the "Boards of Canada". Now it's Toads and the Horrible Black Void!
How fitting that Tom got the Conjurer, since he always seems to pull a rabbit out of his hat, no matter which boardgame!
I miss you guys and gals... please come back 😢
The pronouncement “I will turn my mule into GOLD!” Really amused me.
"Imagine being that close to win"
OD is brutal.
Toad! Toad! Toad! Toad! Toad! Toad! Toad! Toad!
Teeth! Teeth! Teeth! Teeth! Teeth! Teeth! Teeth! Teeth!
Void! Void! Void! Void! Void! Void! Void! Void!
O'D describes cartoons to Matt the way kids describe them to their parents, but when they forget to say it's a cartoon so the parents think they're claiming to have seen something in real life.
"I saw an evil toad. No, really, it's true!"
Power doesn't corrupt... Power only shows the corruption you already have within your heart...
Incorrect.
I have had the void happen to me and seen others lose to it also. For seasoned 2nd edition players the last few videos have epitomized the game completely. Its nice to see others playing it and reacting to it just as we did back in the day. The longest game I have personally played took 8 hours from start to finish, but some games others have played out there have gone on for far longer than that.
That corona projection. You jinxed us all.
Payoff after payoff! Watched it on Twitch and had to rewatch here for the sweet sweet satisfaction.
Tom was always a bard.
What an absolute blood bath. This is one of the most glorious games I have ever seen played on youtube/twitch
Looked it up, OD’s face is the top result for both gifs
AFAIK you can always retreat in the plains of power. It's just when wanting to move forward you are forced to keep roll off against death or fight the wherewolf.
Also when turning back, even as a toad, Yao don't have to encounter the tests. Read out during this game. So Matt-Toad should live.
The Prophet was a great class if I remember correctly.
Most of the original core game characters were reasonably balanced against each other, only the prophetess really stood out as broken. Most of the expansion characters were much meaner than the average core set character.
01:27:09 a bit late to answer you but if this card weighs the same as a duck, then she is a witch 🤣
Simple arthurian science there.
I really felt empathy for your dispair when no one understood your reference 🥲
1:08:00 "I would be really disappointed in this game if no one got turned into a toad."
This statement did not age well. Lots of statements during this night didn't.
Matt Colville leader of the League of Evil.
I still say the randomness makes this fun to watch.
This is perfect group to play Nemesis.
Read my mind!
Every time someone in game says "a bag of gold", the Family Guy song "A bag of weed" comes to mind as it's so catchy.. ;-)
I could be mistaken, but thought I remember from playing this game so many times (back in the 90s) that you cannot cast spells on characters when they are in the Inner Region.
Ah, the Prophetess. OD going from an embarrassing failure against the Werewolf to possibly the *most brokenly powerful* character in the game! Nice one!
The rulebook Matt was using is the 3rd edition ruleset (not that it's much different...). But 3rd edition had a very different inner region than 2nd edition, so those rules may clear some things up for the next game (though...probably not LOLOLOL)
Love the soundtrack. Reminds me of 'Thursday Afternoon' by Brian Eno.
Mage Knight Board Game can be a good follow up to this...
what a great session with you then tom dying. Would love to see you guys play Spartacus the board game one time think it would be a good session to watch.
Once Matt C had to retreat as the Toad, he would head back 1 square a turn, and *not* encounter each square, until out of the Region.
True, but Tom's Minstrel would have squished him on the way to be sure. He was doomed on one life anyway.
43:55 Matt, didn't you already gain a shield last session of this game? I'm pretty sure you can only get the shield once.
Talking about the virus Matt keeps blowing on dice. which I'm sure he cant help but doing.
Definitely did not age well.. watching this now (Aug2022) it’s very cringe
1:06:35 is great
Matt says OD made an error, but I plaued a game last night on the PC and the NPC Ghoul who won had a total combat strength of 5. Meanwhile I had 10 and lost to the guardian twice, before beiing killed by a dragon.
So....yeah.
this would be one video I would take with me to desert island
Is possible more Dune?
6 dislikes... must be from the players because this is gold to watch!
What was the spell Tom got from the Demigod last game?
Oh no, not the peedleear!
So early my brain hurts! all love
ok rolled a 6, hmm do you want to go to the fields or the fieeeeelds?
Hey, am I mistaken or didnt the rules say if you backtrack the inner circle you ignore the effects on those spaces? Matt could have survived his toad-walk backwards XD
edit: Ah now someone pointed it out!
Anyone else think that Munchkin is just a really simplified version of this game?
TOAD!!!!
Is it poor form to mention the Steam version of Talisman here? Plz delete if so. All you need is the base game to play multiplayer. You'll have access to all DLC the game host has. The only downside is you have to play with Europeans. :P
It is poor form to play with europeans!
Europeans? Blimey!
@@pintpullinggeek Exactly! :>
It could be worse, they could be English
I don't see how it could be poor form.
"if you want to play this game yourself, here's an easy way to do so."