Aaaaand... of course he chooses a female character. i think he might be closet trans, or at least dreaming about inhabiting a body of a girl so often that honestly he should consider if he's not that type.
This is the best channel for truck drivers like me who spend hours driving. (I find the mildly bored, vaguely disdainful voice soothing for some reason) Welcome back, Pat!
this appeared on my feed. thanks for making it. today Nov 23 2024 is exactly 20 years when the original was released. halo 2 and half life 2 had come out that same month. you had to be there. youtube didnt even exist back then
I mean its so easy to play WoW for free these days, especially if your interest is in the vanilla-wrath era. TurtleWoW is Vanilla+, Warmane is Wrath of the Lich King or Burning Crusade. You don't have to pay Blizzard to play WoW anymore, just try it. It costs you nothing
The level of research done for this is insane, I know a lot about classic wow having been on and off private servers and playing it over again, but you even showed me some stuff I had never seen. Is it bad to say you have done this justice as expected? after watching your Bethesda reviews several times, I just expected to learn about stuff I have missed having played 15 years mostly on "Classic" realms. Can't wait for the rest of this big excite.
I literally was thinking yesterday, "I wonder what rpg patricianTV will cover next, I hope its long." And to see that it's about Classic Wow is awesome. This game has been one of my favorites since childhood, and I come back to it every year as often as I come back to FNV and Skyrim!
I rewatch all of patrician's best videos like every month at this point, never forget any of it, he's just soothing to listen too during 8-12 hour work shifts
I been waitin for this one since I first hesrd you talk about it I think like a year ago, glad to see it finally out, can't wait to hear what you're gonna say, I really appreciate your analysis on games & I've been playing WoW most of my life.
Same comment I made during your Skyrim analysis, but big ups for being a fellow Warlock main. Excited for Act 2, you better thoroughly dive deep into the Warlock Class Quest, especially the Dreadsteed of Xoroth!
Wooooooooooooooooooooooooo! Never thought this would happen. I kept playing the Elder Scrolls series on repeat. Before even watching this, Patrician, I greatly appreciate the time and effort you put into making this video analysis and all others. Love the content.
Vanilla WoW and it's classic remake have been my all time favourite MMO, and a game I will always look back at with not just nostalgia, but immense appreciation. I am so glad to see you made a video on this
It feels really nice hearing pat talk about a game he likes without a personal burning hatred for the company behind it. It's rare to find a critique maker that actually backs up and elaborates on everything they say and doesn't say shit just cuz it sounds good and the online circlejerk will like it
@@neck_acrobatics His disdain for modern Blizzard was there for sure. For earlier Blizzard he has appreciation despite some of the headache they caused him.
it's hard to have no disdain whatsoever, looking what a dumpster fire this company has became. 20 years ago you expected at least a 9/10 from them, possibly a 10. Today you expect shit, and if the game actually happens to be good, you're surprised. It's like The War Within, it's a good WoW expansion, same with Dragonflight. But people don't care anymore. The game died in Shadowlands and people never returned. Sure there were bad patches and expansions and the game would come beaten-up and brushed, but would heal eventually with a good expansion. Shadowlands ain't like that. It KILLED the game. There's no coming back from that. Players nowadays drop in for a month and drop out for 2 years.
As someone who’s been playing Wow since 2004, this is so hype. You’re absolutely right that WoW is surprisingly underrepresented on TH-cam. The vanilla game has such an amazing setting with lots of interesting characters and smaller stories.
As someone who has only played FF14 and not WoW, its very interesting to hear about the differences in the fan reactions to the massive world changes in Cataclysm and A Realm Reborn.
its an incredibly different situation though, surely you see that if youre familiar with both games. ARR was a desperate final attempt to salvage a playable game out of the ruins of FF14. Even people who played back then say it was hardly enjoyable, but the vibes were there, and thats what made it salvageable. Cata was released at the height of WOW’s popularity, and massively changed and overhauled things people were completely content to spend their virtual lives within. …its different. different stuff. hardly fair to compare the audiences reactions and act as if thats where the differences lie and not the massive amount of context surrounding said reactions.
I'm a wow baby (only started in 2020, in retail), yet a Warcraft veteran (1995 - Warcraft 1). I think the problem with Cata is that the changes were just different for difference sake - that hole in Westfall? There are no quests explaining what happened. That fire lord that fucked up Ashenvale? He's just there - no explanation. Then there's also the vanilla world quests that took you all over Azeroth. All cut back down to a zone. That Dusk wood quest that took you to Stormwind, Red Ridge, and Westfall? Yeah, it the guy is just over there in the same zone - aren't you happy you didn't have to go on this mysterious quest!? Vanilla has so much better world building than the rest of WoW. And I say that after playing retail for 1000 hours, and having put the same amount of hours in Wrath (got Loremaster, BTW). I can already tell that the game went downhill during TBC. The dungeons immediately felt ALL more straightforward. Just run this long corridor, instead of Blackrock Depths that's larger than Stormwind, and feels like an actual underground city! All those older dungeons made me feel a sense of wonder and amazement that felt immediately lacking in most if not all dungeons from TBC onwards. /rant
oh my god thank you for that bit about hotbar size, so many people I know make a huge deal about how many buttons you have in these games while saying things like "how am I supposed to learn what all of them do" like you're expected to use all of them all the time or aren't given them at a steady pace so you have time to learn and adjust to your new tools
@@ЂорђеКозић It still amazes me how much love Morrowind gets. Feels like yesterday I was just a kid playing it for the first time, not realizing that was gonna be about as good as it gets for Bethesda titles. A yearly playthrough (to some degree) for the last 20 years, and still finding new things I didn't know about.
Something to fall asleep to for the next three weeks, gradually absorbing every line until it becomes a permanent fixture in my subconscious. Thanks mom!
Arthas, and the Human campaign for WC3 is some of the best tragic hero writing Blizzard has actually done. So I find it really amusing the guy who designed the level STILL seethes whenever you tell him he doesn't actually get why people would understand and even side with Arthas given the awful situation Stratholme was. It's like one man is determine to be butthurt about it to this day.
That bit about action bars being intimidating is so true. My father and i have played WoW since 05. And to this day, when he and i play private servers together, if i hop on his char to run my own through a dungeon, i get boggled about his action bars and hotkeys, even though ive played that same class many times.
yk ive been lamenting that ive exhausted all of your multi hour long videos multiple times in order to pay full attention to each part and absorb all of the information as well as to sleep to. thank fucking GOD you made this
I never thought I would see this day. My favorite video essayist analyzing my once upon a time "favorite game of all time". Can't wait to see the second act!
No shit last night was watching the Skyrim video for the hundredth time and thought it would be neat to get his take on WoW. As far as I'm concerned I manifested this video and you're all so so welcome.
I started playing WoW in 2006 when I was 9. I was never allowed to play video games as a kid, but I watched my dad play & he'd been playing WoW since the beta, he even had a few friends in the alpha. He passed away in early 2006 & my mom let me take over & play on his account. I missed maybe 3 months of subscription time on that account since the game launched, and I've played every expansion up until the latest one, The War Within. Besides The Burning Crusade I got every collectors edition of the game as well. All this to say I finally cancelled my subscription for good, it ends on December first. I'll be watching(listening to) this as I level my final character on the relaunch of Classic Fresh that just came out a couple days ago, trying to hit 60 one last time before I finally kick the habit for good. While I haven't watched through yet I'm sure this will be great as your videos always are, much thanks for making this I've been looking forward to it for a while now.
Only just some 30 minutes in, but I'm really appreciating you twisting your brain into a pretzel and trying to understand the lore of this setting and how disjointed, illogical mess it has become with every new piece of writing. As a long term player of WoW that's been into the setting until I gave up on it, it's very fun to see an outsider try to parse this glorious mess. You go insane the second you even consider logistics, let alone start thinking about it.
Not that anyone cares, but ganking doesn't necessarily mean high level killing low level, the same term is used for even fights where one gets the jump on another. It just means one player (the ganker) is the instigator, rather than mutual WPVP where both parties are expecting the fight.
I've been wishing for this video to happen for years at this point and than not only does pat steal drop it right on time for fresh classic but also going to give us multiple parts!?!? THank you Patricain, you've been making my favorite content on this site since 2020 and that wont change anytime soon ❤
As someone who got goated into playing on my friends private wrath server. Playing as my undead priest who feed a warcrime plague pumpkin to a prisoner of war in a tavern basement felt like a fever dream and I was all for it.
29:24 having huge lore beats in external sources has been a huge problem for the story of wow. It was so jarring going from the end of MoP and defeating garrosh, to all of a sudden he not only survived but also fled to the past in an alternate reality and returned with an army
I was a no changes guy until i found Turtle WoW, then i was all for classic+ Oddly enough, im very hesitant to accept this as even possible... because i guess i have a confidence problem lol. But i think i may have been one of the first to float and lay out the idea for classic+ several years ago in a poorly made video on my channel, that i ended up privating along with many others.
I played casually during Wrath and the constant changes of Cataclysm turned me off for a number of years. When BfA came out I tried again, even got a little serious and joined a raid guild only to met with elitism and scorn for not knowing the mechanics of dungeons/raids I’d never been in or not having gear that only came from said instances. Suffice it to say I have a lot of fond memories for a game I refuse to play again.
I feel like Sylvannas killing Lich King Arthas is interesting Its a Kerrigan stand-in killing another Kerrigan stand-in Really kinda says everything you need to know about Blizzard
I was literally halfway through my rewatch of the Oblivion retrospective, grinding linen the day after the anniversary launch. Thanks for the leveling content 🙏
Oh man, thank you so.mucj for your content. Not only is it high quality but also insane. I can't sit through a 2 and a half hour film but I'll happily sit through a 6 hour video of yours.
I’ve watched a friend play WOW every once in a while, and the passion he shows for the game shows. I can understand why people love this game. I can’t bring myself to play it, but I can see it.
I was never a warcraft player, not the rts games, nor mmo. But I was there, when Warcraft exploded with Warcraft 3. I could understand the pull for a very very big playerbase. But I myself grew up with C&C and Warcraft just always looked way too goofy for me to actually enjoy it. But I will always enjoy a lengthy patrician video.
Fuuuuuckk, this is gonna be so good. Pat, thank you. Now I don't have to start the Morrowind, Oblivion, Skyrim retrospectives over again... for a couple days
I just finished Oblivion and a bunch of work streams. This interrupted me right as I was about to go to Morrowind again. I am happy for new content... But now I gotta wait to listen to that masterpiece again.
52:59 the pruning of leveled zones was easily the worst thing blizz could possibly do to the old world (that they haven't done already) didn't solve the problem of stale leveling and instead created a new one of every zone feeling the exact same
In ESO people loved the "One Tamriel" update that got rid of leveled zones and people loved it. But that may be because people are more interested in the setting of Elder Scrolls then WOW, so each zone feeling the same maybe was a lesser issue for the ESO community
So TH-cams 2024 recab says this is my favorite channel. I say that's absolutely right. Next to Private sessions where I'm in the 0,1%. Getting the notification for this video here is like early Christmas. Thanks for that
I keep coming back for a new expansion now and then but almost always leave again before completing even the leveling for the expansion. I think I value the very initial feelings WoW created in me when I first ran original vanilla when it launched. It was my first MMO and I was beyond excited to play in the world of Warcraft II and III. Like actually walk around there. I will never feel that way again in WoW but I keep trying.
I'm early in the video but wanted to comment on blizzard devs saying "you don't want that" on asking for tanks. Wrong, a lot of people wanted that because that was the social aspect of mmos back then. Meeting someone while grinding and forming a party with them to then go into dungeons was what made mmos magic in a way. I like ff14 hut I won't delude myself into thinking it's not a single player games with other single players in it.
Trying to join your discord but the link is busted. I subscribed to your patreon to celebrate this video's release! Been considering it for a while now. Keep it up boss. You are my favorite youtuber to listen to and the only video essayist I go back to relisten to on a weekly basis. I look forward to this.
Having played in Legion only, I think Vanilla was cool even given the lore criticisms you provided, but really Blizzard went the wrong direction in the expansions. There were so many ways to make the story interesting, and to reuse Vanilla places, and they didn't. Gnomereagan is the prime example of that, this really was an opportunity for Gnomes having to reclaim and resettle it as a major city. They could have created new mechanics like territory wars, so cities would have to be defended. Make cities necessary to a faction's functioning, make Stormwind and Orgrimmar impregnable, and let players have at it. Essentially turn the game into a somewhat sandboxy one. I don't know, aside from new playable races (not BC ones, but Cata ones), the expansions to me felt like steps in wrong directions. Not always but for most of them.
I could care less what games you cover on here. Given the fact that however WoW is one of the most popular games that I don't know of about or really know much (outside of Hearthstone, the spin off card game) I'm super interested and excited to go through this and Act 2 of this. As a side note (I understand reasons for not wanting to spoil it so soon but) I'm curious what next project you'll have for either a longer or shorter video, I'd suggest randomly Darkest Dungeon (1 or 2) for a shorter video.
For what it's worth I got Neutral rep on the Syndicate. It didn't matter for much, but in Battle for Azeroth they put Syndicate NPCs during the change in Arathi, which meant for world pvp I wasn't at war with the now elite max level npcs who would help me murder small groups of people. So that was neat.
Will be watching this on my MAIN MONITOR while WIDE AWAKE btw
U are the exception my man
Built different
Rawdogging Patrician analysis? Crazy!
People of culture 👏🏻
Im putting on my eyelid stretchers rn. Can someone tie my hands to the chair?
A 6 hour review? On a game I haven't played? A game I have no intention of ever playing? Yeah I'll watch that for the next week.
6hrs is only the first act
Aaaaand... of course he chooses a female character.
i think he might be closet trans, or at least dreaming about inhabiting a body of a girl so often that honestly he should consider if he's not that type.
@@gae_wead_dad_6914not everyone is as mentally corrupt as you bud.
@@gae_wead_dad_6914 or, guys like looking at a butt of a girl running around, rather than a dude.
@@gae_wead_dad_6914so what? He plays just as many male characters. Why are you transvestigating him you weirdo?
This is the best channel for truck drivers like me who spend hours driving. (I find the mildly bored, vaguely disdainful voice soothing for some reason) Welcome back, Pat!
You might like efap. Pats been on there a few times
It’s like NPR for nerd shit
I get to do a 10 hour drive next week, this is first on my playlist
I'd rather not listen to anything soothing while driving lol
Great for pulling doubles in management too.
this appeared on my feed. thanks for making it. today Nov 23 2024 is exactly 20 years when the original was released. halo 2 and half life 2 had come out that same month. you had to be there. youtube didnt even exist back then
Brah, this is like the complete inverse of me finding Tay Zonday on that quantum physics video by Anton Petrov.
Ima gonna have to present to the emergency room after this crossover
@chubbyemu
Warcraftemia -
Warcraft meaning World and emia meaning presence in blood.
You're a legend Chubby! It's so great to see you here :)
This is the most based crossover I've ever seen in my life. Surely I'll see you on a coach Eugene video next?
Your comment reminds me that TH-cam is a community
This video is pretty classic, wow.
Get in
Say it again?
This comment is very much underrated, to a cataclysm-ic proportions
It really made my Lich King fill with wrath, if you know what I mean.
John Warcraft
I've never played Wow and I don't think I ever will, but I will definitely watch and enjoy every second of this. Thank you Patrician.
Asmongold will come, asmongold is coming he will deliver us HAIL TODD HAIL BETHESDA HAIL ASMONGOLD
I mean its so easy to play WoW for free these days, especially if your interest is in the vanilla-wrath era. TurtleWoW is Vanilla+, Warmane is Wrath of the Lich King or Burning Crusade. You don't have to pay Blizzard to play WoW anymore, just try it. It costs you nothing
@@malfuresz7351 nah I enjoy showers and not having dogshit takes
@@Shmandalf it costs me 130 gigabytes of storage space
I don’t care about WoW but I’m interested in hearing your thoughts on it. Your Morrowind analysis was so good that I’ve listened to it *several* times
Oh yeah, it's going to be a GOOD long Saturday.
The level of research done for this is insane, I know a lot about classic wow having been on and off private servers and playing it over again, but you even showed me some stuff I had never seen.
Is it bad to say you have done this justice as expected? after watching your Bethesda reviews several times, I just expected to learn about stuff I have missed having played 15 years mostly on "Classic" realms.
Can't wait for the rest of this big excite.
The "Act One" part scares (and delights) me greatly!
settle in for another 20 hour review
Considering it's WOW, it's no surprise.
I literally was thinking yesterday, "I wonder what rpg patricianTV will cover next, I hope its long." And to see that it's about Classic Wow is awesome. This game has been one of my favorites since childhood, and I come back to it every year as often as I come back to FNV and Skyrim!
Ah yes, another masterpiece to watch over the next few nights before bed, and eventually to rewatch after I've forgotten enough of it, ad infinitum.
I rewatch all of patrician's best videos like every month at this point, never forget any of it, he's just soothing to listen too during 8-12 hour work shifts
I been waitin for this one since I first hesrd you talk about it I think like a year ago, glad to see it finally out, can't wait to hear what you're gonna say, I really appreciate your analysis on games & I've been playing WoW most of my life.
Crazy patrician could post this from Asmongold's basement
TH-camrs uh- find a way.
Watched this while playing wow all day, thank you Patrician 🙏🏼
Wow, that was quick, figured this would take another six months. Thank you Pat!
Same comment I made during your Skyrim analysis, but big ups for being a fellow Warlock main. Excited for Act 2, you better thoroughly dive deep into the Warlock Class Quest, especially the Dreadsteed of Xoroth!
Wooooooooooooooooooooooooo! Never thought this would happen. I kept playing the Elder Scrolls series on repeat.
Before even watching this, Patrician, I greatly appreciate the time and effort you put into making this video analysis and all others. Love the content.
Vanilla WoW and it's classic remake have been my all time favourite MMO, and a game I will always look back at with not just nostalgia, but immense appreciation. I am so glad to see you made a video on this
It feels really nice hearing pat talk about a game he likes without a personal burning hatred for the company behind it. It's rare to find a critique maker that actually backs up and elaborates on everything they say and doesn't say shit just cuz it sounds good and the online circlejerk will like it
Patrician's disdain for Blizzard is quite noticeable I think.
@@neck_acrobatics His disdain for modern Blizzard was there for sure. For earlier Blizzard he has appreciation despite some of the headache they caused him.
it's hard to have no disdain whatsoever, looking what a dumpster fire this company has became. 20 years ago you expected at least a 9/10 from them, possibly a 10. Today you expect shit, and if the game actually happens to be good, you're surprised. It's like The War Within, it's a good WoW expansion, same with Dragonflight. But people don't care anymore. The game died in Shadowlands and people never returned. Sure there were bad patches and expansions and the game would come beaten-up and brushed, but would heal eventually with a good expansion. Shadowlands ain't like that. It KILLED the game. There's no coming back from that. Players nowadays drop in for a month and drop out for 2 years.
@@alewis514 That's not to mention all the horrible irl stuff with blizzard as well regarding some of the stuff it's done.
As someone who’s been playing Wow since 2004, this is so hype. You’re absolutely right that WoW is surprisingly underrepresented on TH-cam. The vanilla game has such an amazing setting with lots of interesting characters and smaller stories.
As someone who has only played FF14 and not WoW, its very interesting to hear about the differences in the fan reactions to the massive world changes in Cataclysm and A Realm Reborn.
its an incredibly different situation though, surely you see that if youre familiar with both games.
ARR was a desperate final attempt to salvage a playable game out of the ruins of FF14. Even people who played back then say it was hardly enjoyable, but the vibes were there, and thats what made it salvageable.
Cata was released at the height of WOW’s popularity, and massively changed and overhauled things people were completely content to spend their virtual lives within.
…its different. different stuff. hardly fair to compare the audiences reactions and act as if thats where the differences lie and not the massive amount of context surrounding said reactions.
I'm a wow baby (only started in 2020, in retail), yet a Warcraft veteran (1995 - Warcraft 1). I think the problem with Cata is that the changes were just different for difference sake - that hole in Westfall? There are no quests explaining what happened. That fire lord that fucked up Ashenvale? He's just there - no explanation. Then there's also the vanilla world quests that took you all over Azeroth. All cut back down to a zone. That Dusk wood quest that took you to Stormwind, Red Ridge, and Westfall? Yeah, it the guy is just over there in the same zone - aren't you happy you didn't have to go on this mysterious quest!?
Vanilla has so much better world building than the rest of WoW. And I say that after playing retail for 1000 hours, and having put the same amount of hours in Wrath (got Loremaster, BTW). I can already tell that the game went downhill during TBC. The dungeons immediately felt ALL more straightforward. Just run this long corridor, instead of Blackrock Depths that's larger than Stormwind, and feels like an actual underground city! All those older dungeons made me feel a sense of wonder and amazement that felt immediately lacking in most if not all dungeons from TBC onwards. /rant
I mean there is nothing to destroy, it's Final Fantasy. Compared to Warcraft.
oh my god thank you for that bit about hotbar size, so many people I know make a huge deal about how many buttons you have in these games while saying things like "how am I supposed to learn what all of them do" like you're expected to use all of them all the time or aren't given them at a steady pace so you have time to learn and adjust to your new tools
Yeah you're lucky to get 1 new ability every 4 levels or so, maybe 2. It usually just a higher rank of ability you already have/know how to use
Here I was, thinking that Patrick has left us and yet, he comes out with another certified hood classic.
Barely 6 hours? I need at least 8+ hours to sleep soundly!
That's why I watched the Morrowind one more times than I dare to admit.
@@ЂорђеКозић It still amazes me how much love Morrowind gets. Feels like yesterday I was just a kid playing it for the first time, not realizing that was gonna be about as good as it gets for Bethesda titles. A yearly playthrough (to some degree) for the last 20 years, and still finding new things I didn't know about.
I can't wait to add this analysis to my monthly cycle of Pat videos to binge watch
2:20 Sseth jump scare
The Merchant's Guild continues to thrive
Something to fall asleep to for the next three weeks, gradually absorbing every line until it becomes a permanent fixture in my subconscious. Thanks mom!
Oh heck yeah! I hoped you would cover WoW someday, the fact that this is 6 hours for act one?! We are in for an amazing experience.
I don't have much interest in WoW, but I absolute will listen to Pat ramble on about things he likes... and/or dislikes.
Hell, yeah. Cheers, bro!
Perfect time to have this on for audio while grinding in Redridge!
I've been looking forward to this! I hope the project performs as well as you hope.
Asmondchode jump scare at the beginning, my poor eyeballs
Arthas, and the Human campaign for WC3 is some of the best tragic hero writing Blizzard has actually done. So I find it really amusing the guy who designed the level STILL seethes whenever you tell him he doesn't actually get why people would understand and even side with Arthas given the awful situation Stratholme was.
It's like one man is determine to be butthurt about it to this day.
That bit about action bars being intimidating is so true.
My father and i have played WoW since 05. And to this day, when he and i play private servers together, if i hop on his char to run my own through a dungeon, i get boggled about his action bars and hotkeys, even though ive played that same class many times.
yk ive been lamenting that ive exhausted all of your multi hour long videos multiple times in order to pay full attention to each part and absorb all of the information as well as to sleep to.
thank fucking GOD you made this
Hell yeah what a surprise to my news feed. Can't wait to crack into this one after I sleep.
I never thought I would see this day. My favorite video essayist analyzing my once upon a time "favorite game of all time".
Can't wait to see the second act!
No shit last night was watching the Skyrim video for the hundredth time and thought it would be neat to get his take on WoW. As far as I'm concerned I manifested this video and you're all so so welcome.
THANK YOU FOR MAKING THIS VIDEO
MAN there simply was no prior WoW Retrospective video that went into this much detail of the lore
At last, he returns! And with the long awaited video about WoW! I'll have a great evening today!
I keep getting tempted to pick up WoW, so maybe this'll educate me enough to finally commit one way or the other.
I started playing WoW in 2006 when I was 9. I was never allowed to play video games as a kid, but I watched my dad play & he'd been playing WoW since the beta, he even had a few friends in the alpha. He passed away in early 2006 & my mom let me take over & play on his account. I missed maybe 3 months of subscription time on that account since the game launched, and I've played every expansion up until the latest one, The War Within. Besides The Burning Crusade I got every collectors edition of the game as well.
All this to say I finally cancelled my subscription for good, it ends on December first. I'll be watching(listening to) this as I level my final character on the relaunch of Classic Fresh that just came out a couple days ago, trying to hit 60 one last time before I finally kick the habit for good.
While I haven't watched through yet I'm sure this will be great as your videos always are, much thanks for making this I've been looking forward to it for a while now.
Yaaay, another quick retrospective!
54:38
PREACH BROTHER.
The fact that you were a rogue too is just icing
Only just some 30 minutes in, but I'm really appreciating you twisting your brain into a pretzel and trying to understand the lore of this setting and how disjointed, illogical mess it has become with every new piece of writing. As a long term player of WoW that's been into the setting until I gave up on it, it's very fun to see an outsider try to parse this glorious mess. You go insane the second you even consider logistics, let alone start thinking about it.
2:00:14 correction, Medivh was literally in Warcraft 1, one of the missions in the Human campaign was to kill him with your troops.
Not that anyone cares, but ganking doesn't necessarily mean high level killing low level, the same term is used for even fights where one gets the jump on another. It just means one player (the ganker) is the instigator, rather than mutual WPVP where both parties are expecting the fight.
More relevant for fresh than decayed servers.
Never thought I'd be hyped by a 20+ hour video analysis but I've been waiting for this
Haven’t been this hyped to open up TH-cam in awhile
I love wow I’ve played it since I was 7… I’m now 27
I've been wishing for this video to happen for years at this point and than not only does pat steal drop it right on time for fresh classic but also going to give us multiple parts!?!? THank you Patricain, you've been making my favorite content on this site since 2020 and that wont change anytime soon ❤
As someone who got goated into playing on my friends private wrath server. Playing as my undead priest who feed a warcrime plague pumpkin to a prisoner of war in a tavern basement felt like a fever dream and I was all for it.
Can't wait to fall asleep to this video for the next week!
Me too, mate, me too! 😂🤌
I'm looking forward to watching this, I've only played a small amount of WoW but your dissections are always fantastic.
(6 hours later) " ... Sorry. I wasn't listening! Can you start again?"
[Hits replay]
Talk about pleasant surprise. I'll enjoy hearing you talk about WoW same as anything else.
this might be one of the best wow lore videos ive seen in a while
29:24 having huge lore beats in external sources has been a huge problem for the story of wow. It was so jarring going from the end of MoP and defeating garrosh, to all of a sudden he not only survived but also fled to the past in an alternate reality and returned with an army
"Good day to you" in the background of Pats rant on the Grizzly Hills expedition was perfect xD
What a GREAT thumbnail to open up to. I can't wait to dig in.
I was a no changes guy until i found Turtle WoW, then i was all for classic+
Oddly enough, im very hesitant to accept this as even possible... because i guess i have a confidence problem lol.
But i think i may have been one of the first to float and lay out the idea for classic+ several years ago in a poorly made video on my channel, that i ended up privating along with many others.
Always a pleasure man thank you for all this work
"Shadowlands? Not canon."
Based
I played casually during Wrath and the constant changes of Cataclysm turned me off for a number of years. When BfA came out I tried again, even got a little serious and joined a raid guild only to met with elitism and scorn for not knowing the mechanics of dungeons/raids I’d never been in or not having gear that only came from said instances. Suffice it to say I have a lot of fond memories for a game I refuse to play again.
i didnt know i wanted this video but now i will be spending the next 6 evenings with you
Finally welcome back after a decade bro 🙏🏻
I feel like Sylvannas killing Lich King Arthas is interesting
Its a Kerrigan stand-in killing another Kerrigan stand-in
Really kinda says everything you need to know about Blizzard
I was literally halfway through my rewatch of the Oblivion retrospective, grinding linen the day after the anniversary launch. Thanks for the leveling content 🙏
BC and Wrath was a huge cornerstone of my childhood! Can't wait to hear your take.
Oh man, thank you so.mucj for your content. Not only is it high quality but also insane. I can't sit through a 2 and a half hour film but I'll happily sit through a 6 hour video of yours.
I’ve watched a friend play WOW every once in a while, and the passion he shows for the game shows.
I can understand why people love this game. I can’t bring myself to play it, but I can see it.
I was never a warcraft player, not the rts games, nor mmo. But I was there, when Warcraft exploded with Warcraft 3. I could understand the pull for a very very big playerbase. But I myself grew up with C&C and Warcraft just always looked way too goofy for me to actually enjoy it.
But I will always enjoy a lengthy patrician video.
Nice. Always like these videos. Thanks, man. I know it take stupid long to make them.
Fuuuuuckk, this is gonna be so good.
Pat, thank you. Now I don't have to start the Morrowind, Oblivion, Skyrim retrospectives over again... for a couple days
I just finished Oblivion and a bunch of work streams. This interrupted me right as I was about to go to Morrowind again.
I am happy for new content... But now I gotta wait to listen to that masterpiece again.
Gonna be enjoying this for the next three days
RIP Hayven Games. I only found you after you already passed, but I saw the impact you had on people through the YT comments. It was amazing.
Was wondering when this would drop. Glad to have you back.
Finally! I was waiting for this video soooo long ^^
Your timing is kinda amazing. My boyfriend just pulled me into WoW for the first time ever last week
just lvling my 15th char now in era. both factions all classes with the t05q complete is the goal :D
52:59 the pruning of leveled zones was easily the worst thing blizz could possibly do to the old world (that they haven't done already)
didn't solve the problem of stale leveling and instead created a new one of every zone feeling the exact same
In ESO people loved the "One Tamriel" update that got rid of leveled zones and people loved it. But that may be because people are more interested in the setting of Elder Scrolls then WOW, so each zone feeling the same maybe was a lesser issue for the ESO community
oh my!! what a lucky day. Best game ever deserved this quick analysis
Never played any version of WoW for even 1 second. Hope I still find this enjoyable.
So TH-cams 2024 recab says this is my favorite channel. I say that's absolutely right. Next to Private sessions where I'm in the 0,1%. Getting the notification for this video here is like early Christmas. Thanks for that
I keep coming back for a new expansion now and then but almost always leave again before completing even the leveling for the expansion. I think I value the very initial feelings WoW created in me when I first ran original vanilla when it launched. It was my first MMO and I was beyond excited to play in the world of Warcraft II and III. Like actually walk around there. I will never feel that way again in WoW but I keep trying.
This is unexpected, yet totally awesome! Thank you!
I don't even play WoW, but I'm here for another Pat video.
Oh my god, such an amazing video!! Please continue this!
Never played but I'm intrigued by this video
I had about 6 hours of resting planned for today.
PERFECT.
I'm early in the video but wanted to comment on blizzard devs saying "you don't want that" on asking for tanks. Wrong, a lot of people wanted that because that was the social aspect of mmos back then. Meeting someone while grinding and forming a party with them to then go into dungeons was what made mmos magic in a way.
I like ff14 hut I won't delude myself into thinking it's not a single player games with other single players in it.
Wow, so happy to see my good personal friend Patrician Television making a video for me, personally.
Trying to join your discord but the link is busted. I subscribed to your patreon to celebrate this video's release! Been considering it for a while now. Keep it up boss. You are my favorite youtuber to listen to and the only video essayist I go back to relisten to on a weekly basis. I look forward to this.
Having played in Legion only, I think Vanilla was cool even given the lore criticisms you provided, but really Blizzard went the wrong direction in the expansions. There were so many ways to make the story interesting, and to reuse Vanilla places, and they didn't. Gnomereagan is the prime example of that, this really was an opportunity for Gnomes having to reclaim and resettle it as a major city.
They could have created new mechanics like territory wars, so cities would have to be defended. Make cities necessary to a faction's functioning, make Stormwind and Orgrimmar impregnable, and let players have at it. Essentially turn the game into a somewhat sandboxy one. I don't know, aside from new playable races (not BC ones, but Cata ones), the expansions to me felt like steps in wrong directions. Not always but for most of them.
I could care less what games you cover on here. Given the fact that however WoW is one of the most popular games that I don't know of about or really know much (outside of Hearthstone, the spin off card game) I'm super interested and excited to go through this and Act 2 of this. As a side note (I understand reasons for not wanting to spoil it so soon but) I'm curious what next project you'll have for either a longer or shorter video, I'd suggest randomly Darkest Dungeon (1 or 2) for a shorter video.
Thank you for this type of content! I love long ass videos!
The long-awaited WOW retrospective is finally here this is gonna be a great weekend!
Babe wake up another 24 hour video essay series is here to entertain me until PoE2
For what it's worth I got Neutral rep on the Syndicate. It didn't matter for much, but in Battle for Azeroth they put Syndicate NPCs during the change in Arathi, which meant for world pvp I wasn't at war with the now elite max level npcs who would help me murder small groups of people. So that was neat.
Perfect Timing my guy!