Yeah. Jeff and Barkley literally say they have to stop calling out the league on they bull cause of the warnings they get and they won't stop cause that ain't them.
No they were let go because ESPN was trying to save money. They were let go at the same time ESPN purged a lot of well known, on air commentators, and staff, right after Pat McAfee was signed. Then ESPN replaced them with the no name announcers they have now. These new ones, are paid less because they don't have the years of experience as the ones they let go. That's why none of them tell you any real information, and they just repeat what they saw on social media posts.
Media companies are detached from normal people. Look at Disney pushing their DEI. Something needs to change drastically. Most younger people aren't already watching TV anymore but we're also starting to not watch movies and TV shows. Nowadays I just consume TH-cam because all the movies are the same.
Yep, them becoming leftist politically is bizarre as a lot of sports fans are on the right. But yeah coverage overall has been trash for 15 years. It needs too go away
All the sports commentators do it now, and about every subject. They could be discussing uniform designs and they would sound like they were outside shouting while someone was mowing the grass.
They also fired Alvaro Martin and Carlos Morales from ESPN Deportes, their latin america transmission, i dont even know how to describe it but watching an espn deportes game with those 2 was an absolute delight, they have the best chemistry i have ever seen on a casting crew, i used to want to tune in every wednesday and friday regardless of the game just to listen to them, and SOMEHOW they fired them to put the absolute worse product i have ever seen on tv, insane. ESPN is just getting worse by the day and honestly its just sad
Worst part about espn coverage is the way casuals view the game now. They can only see the game in stats and hyperbolic hot takes . I saw a post that said “how come no one is gonna mention that jimmy butler is 0-2 in the finals”. It’s just ridiculous. They don’t determine Greatness by skill set or the circumstances / context for each playoff run. They see it as stats and regurgitated media narratives
It's true. I watch the whole game and go to reddit to see comments and everyone only judges players based on stats or media narratives and is trying to farm likes. Everyone tries to get attention nowadays. Same for media. And they trade the truth and the quality of analysis for it. It's just disgusting. At least watch the games guys. They don't even watch the games.
I don't have a problem with people valuing winning. Mj is the goat because of his Winning and Lebron is a looser because of his 4-6 finals record and quitting on teams.
I’m so afraid to see what things are gonna look Like once TNT goes. They’re single handedly keeping things afloat. But it’s not just the nba. Everything is becoming excessively corporate sanitized / modernized.
@@jansmitowiczauthor78that’s cronyism homeboy. If it was capitalism, Disney would be out of business by now. Stealing your tax money and using it to keep companies alive that provide nothing consumers want is the opposite of capitalism
@@jansmitowiczauthor78 That's incompetence* These organizations have always been capitalistic and managed not to suck for most of their existence, but nothing survives incompetence
Imagine having a crew so inept that when White slammed his head on the floor, then immediately hit a 3, they didn't call back to Bird in 91 doing the same! If you go back to when Bird did it, Marv Albert called back to Walt Frazier! This crew is the worst crew of all time. Bring back Jeff Van Gundy and Mark Jackson!
Honestly ESPN has been slowly going down ever since "The Decision". It's just way more apparent now with how these "analysts" showed they don't watch any of the actual games with the Finals predictions.
It more has to do with the fact since Disney bought them. Have you seen what every brand under Disney looks like from ESPN to Star Wars has looked like? It’s not good.
Most Sports media has made the sport about drama, narratives and star power. Most people go with the flow and don't even mind X's and O's and the nuances of the game
To the people who say removing the trophy logo didn't cause the decline, you're missing the point. It's just one sign of a much larger trend, which is that the Finals is losing its soul. What was once an event is now just another round of playoffs.
I remember when you could actually tell who the teams are and now most of the time it’s the road team wearing home uniforms and home teams wearing the road jerseys which is messy from a visual standpoint. Tradition is being thrown out the window in so many ways.
That’s everything tho. The over simplified version of everything catering to the oversimplified mindless drones that our population is now. It’s not just the nba
Kinda saw this downfall coming, the moment ESPN took away the broadcast of the in-arena introductions that gave the NBA Finals a big time feel. Now, just feels like another regular season game.
Everyone is missing the elephant in the room. ESPN's massive decline in quality came after they were bought by Disney. Disney made sure to push out some of the best talent they had because they didn't check the right boxes. Disney is a dumpster fire, and everything they touch turns to ash.
Not sure about ESPN, I think you guys ignore the rise of the internet. There was no way that ESPN could ever compete with the internet, even in the golden age of ESPN it still has nothing on the sheer quantity and quality of sources we have to chose from online regarding your specific interest. But yeah, they did absolutely destroy Star Wars.. my God.
Commissioner Valdermont aka Adam Silver and LeBronze James totally ruined the NBA. Handicapping defense for the sake of the casual fan and astronomically gaudy offensive stats is the fastest way to destroy the competition in the sport. Boring 3 point shooting, and ball dominant one man basketball is all we're left with.
That's funny because up until the finals it was actually great. You guys just bitch about everything. The NBA playoffs have never been that great until the conference finals onward. It's a series and will never be good as college or other sports like football that are single elemination until you get two relatively evenly matched teams and it goes to 6 or if we get lucky 7.
The problem isn’t the logo and it’s not the announcers. The referees are dog shit and several of them are believed to be corrupt by most fans. The game itself is boring as shit except to playground Warriors who think nothing is more exciting than a 30 foot jumpshot. In the last week I watched a playoff game with Mark Aguire and Sam Perkins against Magic and Kareem. Then i saw Shaq and Hardaway vs Jordan and Pippen. Both games were impossible to turn away from no matter how old or how many times I’ve seen them. They were exciting, full of drama, and showed incredible skill from both teams. In this playoffs I saw Irving playing bad for four out of five games, Luka playing hurt and having everyone bitch about his defense constantly, versus Tatum and Brown playing completely average and Boston winning because they put up 11 more long jumpers per game at about 2% better efficiency. No one was overcoming anything, the play was uninspired and stagnant, and the finals MVP had worse statistics than six guys from both of those games I watched. The NBA has turned into a practice session of shooting practice and about 10% of its previous audience gives a fuck .
Yup i didn't see like any player do anything special, like you said both Tatum and Brown where just like average. The Mavs where just worst boring series.
@@slowmojo9355 that’s what you get when you lean so much on role players that are castoffs from other teams. Boston deserves some credit for the defense but they were literally daring people like Jones and Washington to shoot and they simply couldn’t make anything. 31% from three for the series. If they just had resisted the temptation to shoot threes at all and continued scoring for the paint where they had a huge advantage, they would’ve been better off than missing all those shots and giving up fast break points off of long rebounds .
.... so you're saying you watched it? You had to have if you wrote such a long winded comment and gave so much detail. That's all that matters to the league and that's how they get money. Whether you are "hate watching" or you are enjoying it doesn't change their bottom line.
It was a cost cutting measure. While ESPN hasn't helped the NBA, the problem is that there is no more defense in the games and the athletes have alienated huge chunks of the viewing market
@@grsafran id agree but that’s saying something because it was not physical at all. Watch a game from the 90’s it looks much more like pickup basketball, not ticky tacky bullshit fouls I hate it
This is the same network that put Booger McFarland in an elevated chair and let him actually commentate for Monday Night Football. By far one of the most embarrassing decisions by the geniuses at ESPN.
The audio you played of Costas was from the closing comments of the 98 Finals broadcast. Right after Chi won number 6. I'll never forget it because he described the end of times as we knew them in the league then, and accurately predicted the future of teams. I still watch that clip and the end credits from the broadcast with the classical music lol
That whole series. The Bulls were in serious danger of losing...injuries, exhaustion, home court. But Karl Malone was a choke and MJ was not. It was epic. Epically horrible for us Jazz fans, as I thought (correctly) that it was the end of an era or two, and it was.
@@tim.noonanKid, when MJ played they changed ALL the rules to make it easy for him to dominate, when Wilt Chamberlain played, they changed ALL the rules to make it hard for him to dominate. Do you have a comeback to this? No? Because MJ himself didn’t after Wilt told him that in 1997.
And the REASON that 2019 Finals was rated as highly as it was... is cuz of the Warriors. NOT the Raptors. Ppl say they want parity, but in reality, the numbers/ratings don't lie.... ppl love DYNASTIES
I'm old enough to remember that Jordan used to be the main hype and talked about all the time by the media. My dad HATED watching Jordan win, likely for the same reason people hate the LeBron hype.
While I agree with many of your points, the elephant in the room is that the NBA is just not the same game. Both teams run a 5 out pick and roll offense that you do with your friends. It's drive and kick and shoot three after three after three. You can't play defense without fouling, no carrying and traveling makes it near impossible to guard 1-on-1, and perhaps most important of all: the players are as unlikable, pouty and overpaid as ever.
Saying "all" nba fans loved mark Jackson as a commentator is as ridiculous as blaming poor ratings on the logos on the court. Absurd. The reason nobody wants to watch is because the basketball thats being played is absolute garbage. Whoever shoots the most 3s wins. Disgusting.
Espn didn’t get rid of Van Gundy and mark Jackson for “some reason” or to “shake it up”. Disney corporation contracted immensely last couple of years and didn’t want to pay the higher salaries to make their bottom line look better. Ergo - a shittier espn product for the viewers.
Is it ESPN destroyed NBA Finals or is it how the world is today? Everything is done cheap to maximize profit. Everything is so bland. No imagination because it costs too much money. I’m afraid NBA on NBC will be a cheap knockoff of its formal self.
@@otaviofrn_adv Well, actually...Sterling was messing up that franchise for all of Stern's tenure as commissioner, and it was all fine with Stern. ~Well, Actually Guy
If that existed more teams would take advantage of it. You saw Boston drive it down Dallas throat due to their lack of int. But the 3 shot isn’t just because it’s trendy. The inside defense is real strong in today’s NBA. Watch Bostons White, Brown, Horford, Porzingis, Holiday, and Tatum defend the interior against Dallas in the finals.
@@theraVen27 It's ridiculous to say interior defense is real strong in today's NBA, because it isn't by a long shot, but you do have a point, of course, that accomplished three-point shooting makes it unrealistic to focus on interior defense.
@@damac5136 I don’t mean this insultingly- but that’s a low ball iq take. You aren’t looking at metrics and disruption vs highlight blocks and hard fouls of nostalgia. Look at ast numbers, lobs, shots in double and triple teams. Kyrie 30% shooting games. It’s a hell of a lot more than you’re looking at
It’s not just the coverage of the NBA though. It’s the product in general. They shoot way too many 3 pointers. The refs rarely call travels/carry even though it routinely happens throughout every single game.
yea, Bob Costa really set the stage pre game. He made you feel like something big is about to happen. boy, I really miss those days. I miss good basketball, not the watered down sport thats being called basketball. basketball is/was my passion. Back in Bob costa days, even the early 2000s, the commentators were genuine. nowadays, people tell lies to befriend someone. Like a couple weeks ago Perkins said something and Lebron didnt like what he said so Lebron unfollowed him on social media. so that makes steven A and the others tell lies to maintain friendship. such a shame, they ruined the game we love. the game I loved.
ESPN ruined themselves, so naturally anything they cover after the fact will be a worse version than what preceded it. The axed Max Kellerman, Suzy Kolber, Jeff Van Gundy, and Mark Jackson, 4 of the best broadcasters and analysts they ever had, and have promoted Doris Burke and JJ Redick. Now ESPN features such outstanding, high-journalistic-integrity broadcasting and analysis from the likes of Malika Andrews, Jay Williams, and Kendrick Perkins.
CBS coverage of the NBA Finals in the 1980s was the pinnacle of coverage. Dick Stockton and Tom Heinson were the epitome of professionalism and class. Brent Musberger as a host of the coverage was awesome too. NBC was a close second with Marv Albert and Mike Fratello, and of course Bob Costas in the studio. Disney/ABC/ESPN coverage has been awful from the very beginning.
I loved Musberger, he was fun and made everything seem important. Stockton was solid. Albert was great, his voice was the soundtrack of the 90's NBA. Things went really downhill after the NBA left NBC. ABC/ESPN peaked actually when they had Al Michaels for a couple of years doing it. Having Breen/Van Gundy/Jackson for 17 straight years was so long and stale, they really needed to shake things up, but they won't spend the money to hire the best commentators. My favorite booth for the Finals was actually 1995-1997 with Albert, Goukas, and the immaculate, always entertaining Bill Walton. I also loved 1989-1990, Stockton and Hubie Brown. The best of ABC was 2005 with Michaels and Brown.
I came here to say the latter statement. We went from hearing the likes of Marv Albert, Mike Fratello, Bob Costas, Hubie Brown, and Doug Collins break down the game and really add knowledge to: JVG "That's not a foul. That's not a foul. This is the Playoffs." MJ "Momma, there goes that man." I'm not absolving Doris Burke of her complete non sequiturs on the air, nor am I forgetting Bill Walton's "throw it down Big Man" to everyone 6'4" or taller while broadcasting on NBC, but ESPN's problem existed long before Doris Burke became the color commentator. Also, for the record, Bill Walton was prone to hyperbole and canned responses, but he still offered valid and unique insights.
It’s simple… the players, teams and commentators were BETTER in the past. To me once NBA went from NBC it was all down hill…Marv Albert , Bob Costas, were phenomenal calling plays by Jordan, Magic, Miller, Ewing, etc. Intense and organic rivalries and drama before social media was the BEST!! Now we have contrived narratives, with cringey play calls and diva athletes who tweet their feelings…
They HAD to get rid of Van Gundy because they KNEW they was about to start putting ads on the refs, meaning they were gonna HAVE to get on TV a minimum # of times. Van Gundy would have screamed about the refs!
ESPN is bleeding right now. They’re getting rid of all the big contracts they can. That’s why they dumped the commentators. They’ve lost tons of NBA viewers because they got super political and turned off many fans.
Pretty much how this video is doing. If stern was still here this nerdy clown would be chirping just the same. Fact of the matter is that no one hates a product more than a person who buys into it
I haven’t watched an NBA finals game since 2020. I don’t recognize the game anymore - from the lack of defence and effort of players to zero loyalty on the fan base, I find the NBA unwatchable.
Too bad you didn't watch this year's finals because in my 44 years of watching the NBA this finals had some of the best defense being played by Boston than I have seen in a decade or so.
The lack of analysis or any real substance makes it feel especially inconsequential. When the broadcasters who present it to you act like they don’t give a shit, that sentiment will infect you. The deepest they go is saying things like “this game is gonna go to whoever wants it more”, “x player is showing up tonight,” or “y player needs to step up” in effort to appeal to the lowest common denominator. After game 3 I just started listening to a podcast in the background while watching the game just because of how dull the commentary felt. These felt like the kinda games I had on side while doing my homework in high school
It’s the producers. They consistently make horrible decisions, whether it over-coverage of the Lakers, driving fictitious narratives, hiring on-air talent based on controversy over analysis. ESPN was (still is) sinking so the producers decided to make changes to the on air finals broadcast talent when the problem is the producers themselves. They are under additional pressure from streaming services and they are just sinking and sinking
I hope NBA on NBC brings back that same exact theme song. That alone will get me just to check out a game. Still need to get the correct broadcasters, but starting with Bob Costas may be a winning move to be the primary play-by-play guy and then going from there.
well, John Tesh will have an auction for the song... Fox already has the rights to use in college basketball. NBC will need to open up or find a new theme
Speaking of the NBA Finals, if Kobe came back to life and lost 19 straight games in the finals, HE WOULD STILL HAVE A BETTER FINALS RECORD THAN LeHairline. Let that sink in.
@RevivedBeast184 Good to see you! We gotta keep fighting the Klutch propaganda machine. These fools want to gaslight us about the past greats in order to prop up these modern-day social media divas with their fake legacy stats.
@@urbaindelva7869 lil bro is thinking way too hard about this 💀 did you consider that the fact LeBalco has ALREADY done that with less rings means his legacy should be that of a T-15-20 player ever?
I'm not sure what that has to do with the point of this video. But to humor your comment, LeBron's overall record in Finals games is 22-33. Kobe's overall record is 23-15. If Kobe came back to life, he would have that same record because he never got back to the Finals after 2010. If he lost 19 straight Finals games, as you said, his record would then be 23-34. Still one more win than LeBron, but also one more loss. So, he would not be much better than LeBron in that regard. Also, losing 19 STRAIGHT Finals games would hurt Kobe's legacy just as much, if not, more than LeBron's Finals record has hurt his legacy. Let that sink in.
You didn't mention ESPN going to the anti-YT agenda. The hosts are Malika Andrews, Kendrick Perkins, Chiney Ogwumike, and Richard Jefferson. Big Perk literally had Jalen Brunson over Jokic and Doncic for MVP. Of course Jefferson and Stephen A Smith had SGA over Jokic / Doncic as well. According to the analysts, all YT coaches are bad hires, all blk coaches are great hires. Scoring 70+ is great, unless you are European. The agenda is so thick at this point, the fact that Perkins still has an MVP vote is absolutely diabolical.
The players walk all over Adam Silva. Draymond gets suspended cause players were publicly saying stuff and draymond threatened to retire so Silva said "ok go play" and then the NBA puts draymond on the finals media haha.
For years, all I heard was how awful Mark Jackson was as a broadcaster and that he made listening to games awful. Now everyone wants him back? Be careful what you wish for.
ESPN wants to check boxes with women, race, orientation etc etc. They only care about politics instead of actual sports now. Nobody wants politics in their sports. We watch sports to get away from that BS
You touched the "issue" in some way. Adam Silver cares more about the narrative, rather than competition as such. Moving NBA to a Reality Show, rather than baskerball competition as such. p.s. decline in viewership is also related to online streams ;) EDIT: Competition as such ended since the "Face Of The League" is friendly with every player. All Star Game is the best example
Yeah I truly hope NBC gets awarded Finals coverage starting in 2025... I'll never forgive Disney for cutting the player introductions. That's a crime in itself!
Mark Jackson and Van Gundy were replaced because they weren’t afraid to call out the league, bad officiating, or star players.
Yeah. Jeff and Barkley literally say they have to stop calling out the league on they bull cause of the warnings they get and they won't stop cause that ain't them.
Mark Jackson has some mad haters in mgmt
No because of who Jackson prayed to, Van Gundy and Silver worship the star
No they were let go because ESPN was trying to save money. They were let go at the same time ESPN purged a lot of well known, on air commentators, and staff, right after Pat McAfee was signed. Then ESPN replaced them with the no name announcers they have now. These new ones, are paid less because they don't have the years of experience as the ones they let go. That's why none of them tell you any real information, and they just repeat what they saw on social media posts.
Yup.
espn has ruined every sport they have ever aired...
Their NHL Draft coverage was so garbage.
Hell yeah.. Monday Night Football used to be lit until ESPN got it 😒
Amen😊
Even MLB smh.
Media companies are detached from normal people. Look at Disney pushing their DEI. Something needs to change drastically. Most younger people aren't already watching TV anymore but we're also starting to not watch movies and TV shows. Nowadays I just consume TH-cam because all the movies are the same.
Blame Adam Silver for the downfall of the NBA.
Agreed! Play in tournament is "ok"
The mid season tournament is dumb... he's trying but he's failing at almost every turn.
I feel like the regular season should be a bunch of mini tournaments with small bye weeks for all teams afterwards.
@@user-dn3fn3bg4l they wanted Dallas to win the wcf? Are you stupid? My god you're dumb
Adam Silver inherited th David Stern philosophy to coddle Lebron.
@@theinnocentturtle1236they both made dumb ass rules but at least David kept the league competitive and respectable
ESPN has been trash for a while now.
ESPN and their WOKE culture 🤢🤢🤢🤮🤮🤮🤮🤮
honestly for almost 2 decades.
Yep, them becoming leftist politically is bizarre as a lot of sports fans are on the right. But yeah coverage overall has been trash for 15 years. It needs too go away
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ESPN ain't been the same since Stuart Scott died
Screaming A Smith ruins everything he speaks about, Mr. 1.5 points
Bruh he does not have to yell to get his point across has anyone told him that
All the sports commentators do it now, and about every subject. They could be discussing uniform designs and they would sound like they were outside shouting while someone was mowing the grass.
All downhill since they hired that race baiter.
Agree
I loved when they had him try to do MMA and Joe Rogan is thinking "who is this guy with the horrible takes"
ESPN is run more like TMZ than a sports network now.
You’re literally watching an NBATMZ think piece lol this shitty video is just as bad if not worse
the running joke is that it is Disney's BET Sports network. Pretty accurate.
Especially on bronny lol
That is a perfect analogy
Just like MTV is no longer music network.
Man, I took David Stern for granted 😭😭😭😖😖
We all did 🤦🏾♂️
ONG we never actually knew how good we had it..... Now we crying for guys like him
I also did. NBA is soft and pandering to the players.
I still don't respect David Stern
@@Nerdynate253 Stop hating and complaining
Disney destroys everything they touch.
Everything woke turns to sh**
who owns disney?
@@steviechampagne Bob iger
@@justcallmeal3841 ah yeah that guy
@@steviechampagnemainly blackrock, stone street capital etc.
I am still pissed that ESPN fired Mark Jackson and Jeff Van Gundy
💯
They should have kept those two and fired village idiot Mike Breen instead.
They also fired Alvaro Martin and Carlos Morales from ESPN Deportes, their latin america transmission, i dont even know how to describe it but watching an espn deportes game with those 2 was an absolute delight, they have the best chemistry i have ever seen on a casting crew, i used to want to tune in every wednesday and friday regardless of the game just to listen to them, and SOMEHOW they fired them to put the absolute worse product i have ever seen on tv, insane. ESPN is just getting worse by the day and honestly its just sad
Its the Woke Agenda Disney pushing
Bring back Jackson the rock of intelligent commentary.
Worst part about espn coverage is the way casuals view the game now. They can only see the game in stats and hyperbolic hot takes . I saw a post that said “how come no one is gonna mention that jimmy butler is 0-2 in the finals”. It’s just ridiculous. They don’t determine Greatness by skill set or the circumstances / context for each playoff run. They see it as stats and regurgitated media narratives
It's true. I watch the whole game and go to reddit to see comments and everyone only judges players based on stats or media narratives and is trying to farm likes. Everyone tries to get attention nowadays. Same for media. And they trade the truth and the quality of analysis for it. It's just disgusting. At least watch the games guys. They don't even watch the games.
I don't have a problem with people valuing winning. Mj is the goat because of his Winning and Lebron is a looser because of his 4-6 finals record and quitting on teams.
@@emilfrederiksen.1622 You literally played right into OPs argument. Why did Lebron leave Cleveland the first time? Do you know the context as to why?
@@randomstuff508yes cause he a s 1 ss y boy, ran like a little girl to Dwayne Wade and Bosch, he could not tough it out in Cleveland.
It’s not only the casuals that are like this either. Avid basketball fans talk like this.
I’m so afraid to see what things are gonna look Like once TNT goes. They’re single handedly keeping things afloat.
But it’s not just the nba. Everything is becoming excessively corporate sanitized / modernized.
That's capitalism baby!
@@jansmitowiczauthor78corporatism.
@@jansmitowiczauthor78that’s cronyism homeboy. If it was capitalism, Disney would be out of business by now. Stealing your tax money and using it to keep companies alive that provide nothing consumers want is the opposite of capitalism
@@jansmitowiczauthor78 That's incompetence*
These organizations have always been capitalistic and managed not to suck for most of their existence, but nothing survives incompetence
It's crazy cause who are they marketing to? Themselves because I don't know any casual fans that like this
Imagine having a crew so inept that when White slammed his head on the floor, then immediately hit a 3, they didn't call back to Bird in 91 doing the same! If you go back to when Bird did it, Marv Albert called back to Walt Frazier! This crew is the worst crew of all time. Bring back Jeff Van Gundy and Mark Jackson!
Bring in AI Marv Albert and fire Doris Burke
@@blackwulf8793I will 💯 prefer AI Marv over many of the current broadcasters
Yep..those were my guys
Making doris a commentator ruined it for me also
Definitely... I can't stand her...
shes so pretty
Yeah I want to like her but she just says the most annoying things lmao
Agreed. She never says anything insightful or interesting. It’s always so wrote and mundane.
If it’s a guy who was saying the things she says he would never hear the end of it. Or he actually would since he’ll be fired long ago
Dorris voice is so fucking brutal.
They might as well re-hire Michelle Beadle. She was far more entertaining as a color commentator for the Spurs.
Honestly ESPN has been slowly going down ever since "The Decision". It's just way more apparent now with how these "analysts" showed they don't watch any of the actual games with the Finals predictions.
It more has to do with the fact since Disney bought them. Have you seen what every brand under Disney looks like from ESPN to Star Wars has looked like? It’s not good.
@@Larry-dq4ig Bro they were trash before Disney.
@@georgealvarez1195yes but not this bad
And they’re going to pay Screamin A. Smith north of $20m per to bloviate. No thanks!!
Don't know what you mean, I had Lelakers in 6.
SAS is a symptom of what is wrong with sports media.
except when it comes to the Cowboys. He is been 100% right since 1995
@@otaviofrn_advyeah he has but he never shares this opinion about his previous Knicks who has even a worse drought than the Cowboys.
Don't forget to add Skip baseless he's the main reason sports media is in the toilet.
Most Sports media has made the sport about drama, narratives and star power. Most people go with the flow and don't even mind X's and O's and the nuances of the game
Bro is getting the bag tho
ESPN put the sports reporter on the save level as the athlete, which should never be the case
NBA ruined basketball when they outlawed defending
David Sterns fault
@@JEFFMAN90 it absolutely was
To the people who say removing the trophy logo didn't cause the decline, you're missing the point.
It's just one sign of a much larger trend, which is that the Finals is losing its soul. What was once an event is now just another round of playoffs.
I remember when you could actually tell who the teams are and now most of the time it’s the road team wearing home uniforms and home teams wearing the road jerseys which is messy from a visual standpoint. Tradition is being thrown out the window in so many ways.
That’s everything tho. The over simplified version of everything catering to the oversimplified mindless drones that our population is now. It’s not just the nba
@@theraVen27 That’s true and not even just sports either but corporations across the board
Espn the sports version of the view lmao 🤣😂
That's not a good thing to be compared to if you're ESPN 😂😂😂
Spot on analogy! 🤣😂🤣
Kinda saw this downfall coming, the moment ESPN took away the broadcast of the in-arena introductions that gave the NBA Finals a big time feel. Now, just feels like another regular season game.
Everyone is missing the elephant in the room. ESPN's massive decline in quality came after they were bought by Disney. Disney made sure to push out some of the best talent they had because they didn't check the right boxes. Disney is a dumpster fire, and everything they touch turns to ash.
Ok buddy
Not sure about ESPN, I think you guys ignore the rise of the internet. There was no way that ESPN could ever compete with the internet, even in the golden age of ESPN it still has nothing on the sheer quantity and quality of sources we have to chose from online regarding your specific interest.
But yeah, they did absolutely destroy Star Wars.. my God.
Commissioner Valdermont aka Adam Silver and LeBronze James totally ruined the NBA. Handicapping defense for the sake of the casual fan and astronomically gaudy offensive stats is the fastest way to destroy the competition in the sport. Boring 3 point shooting, and ball dominant one man basketball is all we're left with.
It's the stupid ring chasing culture. Everyone wanted to create super teams instead of sticking with his team and trying to win it.
I wonder if it will ever come out that Lebron has been juicing his entire career
@@anti-liberal7167Not till he is long retired and old
Hell yeah @@LuisGonzalez-gl4wc
That Right there made me the Greatest !.....famous quotes from a famous player😂😂
The nba only wants lemedia anchors. And espn is happy to oblige.
This was the 1st year I didnt watch a single minute of the nba finals. Do not regret.
That's funny because up until the finals it was actually great. You guys just bitch about everything. The NBA playoffs have never been that great until the conference finals onward. It's a series and will never be good as college or other sports like football that are single elemination until you get two relatively evenly matched teams and it goes to 6 or if we get lucky 7.
@cefb8923 this isn't about the nba. It's about espn's coverage and sports shows you confused dork.
ESPN shook it up to save money. They're too busy paying Stephen A. $8M+ a year to holler.
With that said Adam Silver is just horrible.
The problem isn’t the logo and it’s not the announcers. The referees are dog shit and several of them are believed to be corrupt by most fans. The game itself is boring as shit except to playground Warriors who think nothing is more exciting than a 30 foot jumpshot.
In the last week I watched a playoff game with Mark Aguire and Sam Perkins against Magic and Kareem. Then i saw Shaq and Hardaway vs Jordan and Pippen. Both games were impossible to turn away from no matter how old or how many times I’ve seen them. They were exciting, full of drama, and showed incredible skill from both teams. In this playoffs I saw Irving playing bad for four out of five games, Luka playing hurt and having everyone bitch about his defense constantly, versus Tatum and Brown playing completely average and Boston winning because they put up 11 more long jumpers per game at about 2% better efficiency. No one was overcoming anything, the play was uninspired and stagnant, and the finals MVP had worse statistics than six guys from both of those games I watched.
The NBA has turned into a practice session of shooting practice and about 10% of its previous audience gives a fuck .
Yup i didn't see like any player do anything special, like you said both Tatum and Brown where just like average. The Mavs where just worst boring series.
@@slowmojo9355 that’s what you get when you lean so much on role players that are castoffs from other teams. Boston deserves some credit for the defense but they were literally daring people like Jones and Washington to shoot and they simply couldn’t make anything. 31% from three for the series.
If they just had resisted the temptation to shoot threes at all and continued scoring for the paint where they had a huge advantage, they would’ve been better off than missing all those shots and giving up fast break points off of long rebounds .
.... so you're saying you watched it? You had to have if you wrote such a long winded comment and gave so much detail. That's all that matters to the league and that's how they get money. Whether you are "hate watching" or you are enjoying it doesn't change their bottom line.
Going from Van Gundy & Mark Jackson to Dorris Burke & JJ Reddick is an L all day long
What’s worse J.J. Is now coaching The Lakers. All he’s gonna do is kiss LeBron and his no talent son Bronny butts.
It was a cost cutting measure. While ESPN hasn't helped the NBA, the problem is that there is no more defense in the games and the athletes have alienated huge chunks of the viewing market
They removed all physicality from the game, every contact is a foul it’s not even basketball anymore
🎯💯
I thought this year's finals was the most physical series I saw in the playoffs or regular season.
@@grsafran id agree but that’s saying something because it was not physical at all. Watch a game from the 90’s it looks much more like pickup basketball, not ticky tacky bullshit fouls I hate it
I don’t know, I don’t think it’s as bad as people think. But it’s obviously not the same as the early 90’s.
Yet there are much more injuries now.
@@JohnDee633 well the viewership would suggest it is that bad, because it is
That horrible TH-cam TV ad gets me so tight on the logo lmao
Female sportscasters for men’s sports has been disastrous
I have a feeling she was chosen because she’s a woman
Doris Burke is great, otherwise agreed
Exactly 💯. Stop forcing women down our throats on men sports. Majority of the time they don't know ish 😂😂
@@JEFFMAN90 Incel Virgins: "Wahmen Bad"
Doris thinks she's Hubie Brown
This is the same network that put Booger McFarland in an elevated chair and let him actually commentate for Monday Night Football. By far one of the most embarrassing decisions by the geniuses at ESPN.
This IST courts were atrocious
No they wasn't. I loved it
@@Kings0424Most of them were good but yours was one of the worst. Grey and blue?? I wanted to puke when I saw that
@BeerAndJointsAllDay Yeah I agree. I thought it was gonna be purple and black to be honest since it's the team's colors
The concept was great, the execution was mostly terrible.
The audio you played of Costas was from the closing comments of the 98 Finals broadcast. Right after Chi won number 6.
I'll never forget it because he described the end of times as we knew them in the league then, and accurately predicted the future of teams.
I still watch that clip and the end credits from the broadcast with the classical music lol
Was gonna like your comment but it’s at 23 so here 👍🏻
That whole series. The Bulls were in serious danger of losing...injuries, exhaustion, home court. But Karl Malone was a choke and MJ was not. It was epic. Epically horrible for us Jazz fans, as I thought (correctly) that it was the end of an era or two, and it was.
I liked Marv Albert the best .
You forgot to mention ESPN getting rid of their iconic theme music too.
Remember: ESPN is owned by deadsney so, never neglect to give "The Mouse" its credit of blame that it deserves...
The Dumb & Dumber clip was PERFECTLY placed.
I think it’s the politics that was injected into the game
That liberal nonsense kills every industry and company it touches and we’re seeing it with the NBA
Woke garbage
ESPN did to the Finals what Fanatics does to Jerseys
MJ the GOAT
The Antman might have something to say about that, one day. 👀
@@user-dn3fn3bg4lOh my god go back under your rock. Edwards will never win an MVP, let alone 5. He probably won’t even a chip.
@@tim.noonanKid, when MJ played they changed ALL the rules to make it easy for him to dominate, when Wilt Chamberlain played, they changed ALL the rules to make it hard for him to dominate.
Do you have a comeback to this? No? Because MJ himself didn’t after Wilt told him that in 1997.
@@BeerAndJointsAllDay Not hand checking. Try again.
Yep, Michael Jordan will always be the standard
Adam Silver fired Jeff and Mark because they were critical of the refereeing and LeBron flopping
Basketball has become a lifestyle sport not a manly sport. If your in the NBA it's like you already won. Not for me.
I watched two In-Season Tournament games because the whole idea was worse than the listless NBA.
The NBA Finals peaked in 2014 because better basketball will never be played again.
It’s LA fitness basketball now, five players outside the three point line going one on one or jacking up threes
@@johnnguyen6469 That's the best description I've seen. Well said.
That’s an amazing description, this needs more up votes!
2016 the last good Finals, Specifically Game 7. Now it’s literally guys just running up and down the court jacking up threes
@@johnnguyen6469yeah the 3-point contest used to be once a year, but now its everyday :)
ESPN is destroying the nba period
ESPN yet another Disney dumpster fire 🔥 😂😂😂
You can thank ghoul silver,LeFraud and ESPN Analysts for the demise of the NBA .
And the REASON that 2019 Finals was rated as highly as it was... is cuz of the Warriors. NOT the Raptors. Ppl say they want parity, but in reality, the numbers/ratings don't lie.... ppl love DYNASTIES
I hate ESPN for the simple fact they can’t go 30 minutes without talking about LeBron the Lakers or Bronny. Lebron needs to retire already
More like 30 seconds, 30 minutes would be a dream lol
@@RIPJimmyA7X 🤣🤣
I'm old enough to remember that Jordan used to be the main hype and talked about all the time by the media. My dad HATED watching Jordan win, likely for the same reason people hate the LeBron hype.
@@sebastianbelcher5354 yes but LeBron isn’t winning and the lakers are trash whereas Jordan was winning and the bulls were good
While I agree with many of your points, the elephant in the room is that the NBA is just not the same game. Both teams run a 5 out pick and roll offense that you do with your friends. It's drive and kick and shoot three after three after three. You can't play defense without fouling, no carrying and traveling makes it near impossible to guard 1-on-1, and perhaps most important of all: the players are as unlikable, pouty and overpaid as ever.
ESPN commentary team sucks
Saying "all" nba fans loved mark Jackson as a commentator is as ridiculous as blaming poor ratings on the logos on the court. Absurd. The reason nobody wants to watch is because the basketball thats being played is absolute garbage. Whoever shoots the most 3s wins. Disgusting.
Well you obviously dont watch basketball. Denver won it last year and they didnt shoot many 3s. Dallas doesnt even shoot many 3s.
He’s talking in general not what Denver did or didn’t
@editorodriguez6554 Its true in general also. Go check the stats. Boston and Indiana were the only teams consistently chucking 3s.
@@editorodriguez6554 "never argue with a fool, onlookers might be unable to tell the difference.". Twain
@@timhall5382 The actual games and stats back up what I typed tho. Why are people so lazy and stupid to simply go look it up??
Espn didn’t get rid of Van Gundy and mark Jackson for “some reason” or to “shake it up”. Disney corporation contracted immensely last couple of years and didn’t want to pay the higher salaries to make their bottom line look better.
Ergo - a shittier espn product for the viewers.
They need to bring back that classic nba intro
Doris doesn't know what to talk about when she's not talking about Embiid
I really hate her commentary
Is it ESPN destroyed NBA Finals or is it how the world is today? Everything is done cheap to maximize profit. Everything is so bland. No imagination because it costs too much money. I’m afraid NBA on NBC will be a cheap knockoff of its formal self.
its still crap cut costs still comes out as such
Adam silver started off so good as commissioner. Now this dude sucks balls
I disagree. Adam Silver has always been horrible. It was just hard to tell earlier on because he inherited a great league from David Stern.
@chiefs816kc F**k David Stern. David Stern is the worst and he has so many controversial moments
@@chiefs816kc his first serious situation he handled really well (the Donald Sterling debacle). Stern would've handled the same way
@@otaviofrn_adv Well, actually...Sterling was messing up that franchise for all of Stern's tenure as commissioner, and it was all fine with Stern.
~Well, Actually Guy
@@Trollificusv2 being a crappy owner is not enough to be taken out... They have that absolute power that comes with ownership
I had game 5 on mute and my fiancée begged me to turn on the volume. 5 mins later she told me I could mute it again lol.
You thank Disney, the worst entertainment corporation in history.
Warner bros still the worst corporation that ever exist 😂
ESPN decided fans can't tell the difference between good announcing and bad announcing.
We need Stacy King as a Finals commentator 👑🔥
That would be awesome!!!
The worst problem (too) is the lack of interior defense.
If that existed more teams would take advantage of it. You saw Boston drive it down Dallas throat due to their lack of int. But the 3 shot isn’t just because it’s trendy. The inside defense is real strong in today’s NBA. Watch Bostons White, Brown, Horford, Porzingis, Holiday, and Tatum defend the interior against Dallas in the finals.
@@theraVen27 It's ridiculous to say interior defense is real strong in today's NBA, because it isn't by a long shot, but you do have a point, of course, that accomplished three-point shooting makes it unrealistic to focus on interior defense.
@@damac5136 again- watch the finals and tell me Bostons interior defense is weak
@@theraVen27 Go watch every game from the 1990's and tell me Boston's interior defense is strong compared to any team with decent defense.
@@damac5136 I don’t mean this insultingly- but that’s a low ball iq take. You aren’t looking at metrics and disruption vs highlight blocks and hard fouls of nostalgia. Look at ast numbers, lobs, shots in double and triple teams. Kyrie 30% shooting games. It’s a hell of a lot more than you’re looking at
It’s not just the coverage of the NBA though. It’s the product in general. They shoot way too many 3 pointers. The refs rarely call travels/carry even though it routinely happens throughout every single game.
Mike Breen, JVG & Mark Jackson were iconic mann, they had so much chemistry, iconic sayings and knew ball
Mark Jackson and Van Gundy were goats at commentary.
Can you imagine those two with Kevin Harlan instead of Mike Breen? It would be *Chef’s kiss
Maybe nbc will hired the two next year
yea, Bob Costa really set the stage pre game. He made you feel like something big is about to happen. boy, I really miss those days. I miss good basketball, not the watered down sport thats being called basketball. basketball is/was my passion. Back in Bob costa days, even the early 2000s, the commentators were genuine. nowadays, people tell lies to befriend someone. Like a couple weeks ago Perkins said something and Lebron didnt like what he said so Lebron unfollowed him on social media. so that makes steven A and the others tell lies to maintain friendship. such a shame, they ruined the game we love. the game I loved.
God I want to mute the tv every time Doris says anything
ESPN ruined themselves, so naturally anything they cover after the fact will be a worse version than what preceded it. The axed Max Kellerman, Suzy Kolber, Jeff Van Gundy, and Mark Jackson, 4 of the best broadcasters and analysts they ever had, and have promoted Doris Burke and JJ Redick. Now ESPN features such outstanding, high-journalistic-integrity broadcasting and analysis from the likes of Malika Andrews, Jay Williams, and Kendrick Perkins.
CBS coverage of the NBA Finals in the 1980s was the pinnacle of coverage. Dick Stockton and Tom Heinson were the epitome of professionalism and class. Brent Musberger as a host of the coverage was awesome too. NBC was a close second with Marv Albert and Mike Fratello, and of course Bob Costas in the studio. Disney/ABC/ESPN coverage has been awful from the very beginning.
The NBA on CBS was great as well.
Disney= Woke
I loved Musberger, he was fun and made everything seem important. Stockton was solid. Albert was great, his voice was the soundtrack of the 90's NBA. Things went really downhill after the NBA left NBC. ABC/ESPN peaked actually when they had Al Michaels for a couple of years doing it. Having Breen/Van Gundy/Jackson for 17 straight years was so long and stale, they really needed to shake things up, but they won't spend the money to hire the best commentators. My favorite booth for the Finals was actually 1995-1997 with Albert, Goukas, and the immaculate, always entertaining Bill Walton. I also loved 1989-1990, Stockton and Hubie Brown. The best of ABC was 2005 with Michaels and Brown.
I came here to say the latter statement. We went from hearing the likes of Marv Albert, Mike Fratello, Bob Costas, Hubie Brown, and Doug Collins break down the game and really add knowledge to:
JVG "That's not a foul. That's not a foul. This is the Playoffs."
MJ "Momma, there goes that man."
I'm not absolving Doris Burke of her complete non sequiturs on the air, nor am I forgetting Bill Walton's "throw it down Big Man" to everyone 6'4" or taller while broadcasting on NBC, but ESPN's problem existed long before Doris Burke became the color commentator.
Also, for the record, Bill Walton was prone to hyperbole and canned responses, but he still offered valid and unique insights.
And with me as always the czar of the telestrater Mike Fartello
I Loved that he said the Celtics championship should be revoked because of Doris dumb comment about Kiss me JJ!!!!!
Doris should be making me a sandwich in the kitchen instead of commentating in the Finals
5:00 i will be celebrating when stephen a retires from all sports broadcasting
It’s simple… the players, teams and commentators were BETTER in the past. To me once NBA went from NBC it was all down hill…Marv Albert , Bob Costas, were phenomenal calling plays by Jordan, Magic, Miller, Ewing, etc. Intense and organic rivalries and drama before social media was the BEST!! Now we have contrived narratives, with cringey play calls and diva athletes who tweet their feelings…
They HAD to get rid of Van Gundy because they KNEW they was about to start putting ads on the refs, meaning they were gonna HAVE to get on TV a minimum # of times. Van Gundy would have screamed about the refs!
ESPN is bleeding right now. They’re getting rid of all the big contracts they can. That’s why they dumped the commentators.
They’ve lost tons of NBA viewers because they got super political and turned off many fans.
It's not true for players. They make more than ever now.
The Pat Mcafee honestly made them worse because it showed how desperate they've gotten.
It’s the “what did Lebron just do “league now
😂😂😂😂😂 it’s the “titanic” song intro for me lol
David Stern was the goat commissioner people disrespected him way too much.
Pretty much how this video is doing. If stern was still here this nerdy clown would be chirping just the same. Fact of the matter is that no one hates a product more than a person who buys into it
I also miss the nba finals jersey with larry o brien trophy at front on upper left.
Mark and Jeff were like a comic duo when they argued on air
I just realized that Doris Burke's laugh reminds me of Kamala Harris's cackle. I'll never be able to unhear that.
I haven’t watched an NBA finals game since 2020. I don’t recognize the game anymore - from the lack of defence and effort of players to zero loyalty on the fan base, I find the NBA unwatchable.
Too bad you didn't watch this year's finals because in my 44 years of watching the NBA this finals had some of the best defense being played by Boston than I have seen in a decade or so.
@@grsafran It's an amazing front office accomplishment: Getting good-to-excellent defenders up and down the roster.
The lack of analysis or any real substance makes it feel especially inconsequential. When the broadcasters who present it to you act like they don’t give a shit, that sentiment will infect you. The deepest they go is saying things like “this game is gonna go to whoever wants it more”, “x player is showing up tonight,” or “y player needs to step up” in effort to appeal to the lowest common denominator. After game 3 I just started listening to a podcast in the background while watching the game just because of how dull the commentary felt. These felt like the kinda games I had on side while doing my homework in high school
Lmaooo showing Roger when mentioning Adam Silver was hilarious
It’s the producers. They consistently make horrible decisions, whether it over-coverage of the Lakers, driving fictitious narratives, hiring on-air talent based on controversy over analysis. ESPN was (still is) sinking so the producers decided to make changes to the on air finals broadcast talent when the problem is the producers themselves. They are under additional pressure from streaming services and they are just sinking and sinking
When Marc and Jeff were calling games people did nothing but complain about them. People just hate on everything until it’s something new to hate on.
I hope NBA on NBC brings back that same exact theme song. That alone will get me just to check out a game. Still need to get the correct broadcasters, but starting with Bob Costas may be a winning move to be the primary play-by-play guy and then going from there.
well, John Tesh will have an auction for the song...
Fox already has the rights to use in college basketball.
NBC will need to open up or find a new theme
That background track during the monologue is fire, where can I get that? What is it called/
I don't know if you did it on purpose, but you comparing the logos reminded me of SNL Papyrus.. "I know what you did!"😂
It's not just ESPN. Lebron and Adam silver are to blame big time
Speaking of the NBA Finals, if Kobe came back to life and lost 19 straight games in the finals, HE WOULD STILL HAVE A BETTER FINALS RECORD THAN LeHairline.
Let that sink in.
yoooooooooo 🤝🤝🤝🤝
@RevivedBeast184 Good to see you! We gotta keep fighting the Klutch propaganda machine. These fools want to gaslight us about the past greats in order to prop up these modern-day social media divas with their fake legacy stats.
@@urbaindelva7869 lil bro is thinking way too hard about this 💀
did you consider that the fact LeBalco has ALREADY done that with less rings means his legacy should be that of a T-15-20 player ever?
I'm not sure what that has to do with the point of this video. But to humor your comment, LeBron's overall record in Finals games is 22-33. Kobe's overall record is 23-15. If Kobe came back to life, he would have that same record because he never got back to the Finals after 2010. If he lost 19 straight Finals games, as you said, his record would then be 23-34. Still one more win than LeBron, but also one more loss. So, he would not be much better than LeBron in that regard. Also, losing 19 STRAIGHT Finals games would hurt Kobe's legacy just as much, if not, more than LeBron's Finals record has hurt his legacy. Let that sink in.
Is that right, if so insane
And the Stanley Cup Finals…
And Monday Night Football…
And the MLB playoffs…
You didn't mention ESPN going to the anti-YT agenda. The hosts are Malika Andrews, Kendrick Perkins, Chiney Ogwumike, and Richard Jefferson. Big Perk literally had Jalen Brunson over Jokic and Doncic for MVP. Of course Jefferson and Stephen A Smith had SGA over Jokic / Doncic as well. According to the analysts, all YT coaches are bad hires, all blk coaches are great hires. Scoring 70+ is great, unless you are European. The agenda is so thick at this point, the fact that Perkins still has an MVP vote is absolutely diabolical.
Ok old man😂 shaking your fist like an angry idiot
Truly felt like no one gave a shit about this year's Finals 🤣 💯
It's sad cause I've pretty much given up on watching NBA altogether. After watching it for more than 30 years.
Hell I did. I watched every game
@@genustinca5565maybe you’re just over it now? 🤷🏽♂️ the players are too good now. It’s like watching robots play
Because ESPN’s horrible narratives, lack of historical context, and lack of critical thinking skills.
@robinmahan101 Okay who cares
The players walk all over Adam Silva. Draymond gets suspended cause players were publicly saying stuff and draymond threatened to retire so Silva said "ok go play" and then the NBA puts draymond on the finals media haha.
The Breen,Redick and Burke broadcast crew was absolutely brutal.Horrible chemistry,frequent awkward moments of silence and boring as hell.
For years, all I heard was how awful Mark Jackson was as a broadcaster and that he made listening to games awful. Now everyone wants him back?
Be careful what you wish for.
ESPN wants to check boxes with women, race, orientation etc etc. They only care about politics instead of actual sports now. Nobody wants politics in their sports. We watch sports to get away from that BS
Ok old man😂 shaking your fist like an angry idiot
You touched the "issue" in some way.
Adam Silver cares more about the narrative, rather than competition as such.
Moving NBA to a Reality Show, rather than baskerball competition as such.
p.s. decline in viewership is also related to online streams ;)
EDIT: Competition as such ended since the "Face Of The League" is friendly with every player. All Star Game is the best example
Yeah I truly hope NBC gets awarded Finals coverage starting in 2025...
I'll never forgive Disney for cutting the player introductions. That's a crime in itself!
Elites: "It's okay to cut back on events like the finals. It's not like NBA is going anywhere. Now give me that money and put it into my pocket."