Don’t feel too bad unless you literally live next to the Nurburgring. I think it’s wayyyyyyy too fast and capable to own as a street car / backroads. Slow car fast > fast car slow. But if you do fast car fast…. 🫨
@@DasCayman I think you're too slow for the car rather than it being too fast ahahah Also, it is too "drony" and the pitch is off when compared to a GT3. I'll take a 991.2 GT3, thanks :)
@@DasCayman pretty decent mate. Still, that kind of proves my point: it's clearly not too fast as you just showed you CAN wring it out :D I mean, let's be honest here and cut the rationalising crap; it's amazing and way better than any other "regular" Cayman. I wanted that to be true, because then I could sell my GT3 and have fun on a Boxster Spyder but having driven both back to back on the twisties here in Portugal, it can't even come close. Not on the same league, class, or planetary system. And don't call me biased because I'd love nothing else than to have an extra 100k on my bank account for a Lotus Exige or Atom 4 :-(
@@Kurotsukuyomi it’s just too fast to be enjoyed on the street. Because once you start using it… you’re going 150mph everywhere… it’s a victim of its own success. Now don’t get me wrong, I wouldn’t change a thing about the 4RS, it’s a perfect car. But for me, and how I’m able to exploit cars, it’s too fast. Usually when people say a car is too slow are the ones who have no idea how to actually drive
Good clarification on the suspension for the street. I would love to have a GT4 RS. Also torque above 5000, if a person wants low end torque, buy a base C8.
Regarding Luke, I'm with you that he sounds more like a salesman and influencer lately than a car enthusiast. But thinking he mad 100k with the 4RS in the Swiss car market at that time is nonsense. I'm sure he lost 5 to 10 grand on that car maybe even more, prices were dropping fast when he sold. There are 23 4RS for sale right now in Switzerland starting at 186k and they are sitting not moving.
I will admit that my Venn diagram overlap of low interest rate environments coupled with exclusive Porsche RS cars in USA and Switzerland is weak. So I am unfamiliar with how much profits both cars would make in each country, but I could only speculate which is why I didn't call out a dollar amount in the video :) Do you know what percentage profit a Swiss car sees to a USA car assuming equal market environments?
I religiously watched his videos until the bit on why he sold the 4RS…. Just tell us you made $100k and moved into a car that was lower on depreciation curve and still cool. None of us would be mad about making a quick $100k…. The whole thing was blown so far out of proportion
A couple ownership quirks- 1. The centerlocks are as annoying as they are good looking. Unless you buy the $5000 tool, its a two person job every time you want to remove a wheel. 2. I traded in a 992 GT3 for it, and I have no regrets, but I do prefer the looks of the GT3. It had much less fizz, was much quieter, but did look better to my eyes. Thats all I can think of…
For me the 4RS is the perfect car…it‘s so raw. Compared to the 992 gt3 it is a bit slower in the corners due to the double wishbone suspension of the gt3 but it‘s way more emotional to drive (the gt3 is missing the agility that the 4RS has). Soundwise it‘s also incredible. I just own it a few months and can‘t complain at any point
Great video! I agree the car is quiet until higher RPMs. Was the first thing I was surprised about when I bought mine. The volume is way over exaggerated.
Don’t feel too bad unless you literally live next to the Nurburgring. I think it’s wayyyyyyy too fast and capable to own as a street car / backroads. Slow car fast > fast car slow. But if you do fast car fast…. 🫨
981 GTS. Great sound and good value. Stay away from the turbos if you’re here to have fun and enjoy the car. A well priced 981 GTS will hold its value better than the other two as well, if that's a factor.
Great video. FYI, if you want to capture the best footage angle I use the RoadSpy RS1 on my Cayman. Way way better than those suction cups and helmet mounts.
Ooooooo that’s a very hard choice. If it’s a street car I’d 100% scuderia for the insane road presence, theater and rarity. Was a halo car for me growing up.
Also don’t feel too bad unless you literally live next to the Nurburgring. I think it’s wayyyyyyy too fast and capable to own as a street car / backroads. Slow car fast > fast car slow. But if you do fast car fast…. 🫨
Best car they make right now by far. And still going for $30k over but down from $75-$100k. I will have a PTS example for the collection because its going down as one of the all time greats.
💯!👍. I could not agree more! Gave up a GT3 touring allocation for the 4RS-no regrets! Absolutely love this thing! Wake up finding myself craving the sound and chuckability of this car. Another thing I hate about the GT4RS, unlike the Aventador, is you can actually use the A/C to stay cool!😎
@@DasCayman ok my car is also a 2023 and it hates the bumps, and bounces all over the place in a very unplesent way. My 718 Spyder is much nicer ride. My car kicks the back end up and PSM lights up on every bigger bump. ]
Luke sold his car for other reasons, the Cayman / Boxster remains Porsches best sports car with midship engine and no crappy back seats, 911 is the flagship model that SOME people buy merely for bragging rights and not driving.
Lol what were those reason? And Cayman / Boxster is the most fun for backroads! All the 911 dentists on TH-cam just don't want to admit it...I own a 911 as well :)
I'm from Maryland got a manual months ago and wanna be able to drive it daily and find friends I cant ive tried facebook and forums just cant find people to drive with and get more experience. Cant wait to take my SLK 5 speed to my first meet
Bro… no offense but I’m betting the house on black that’s the excuse he used so he could flip it and profit $100k. The fact he also said he made “no money” on the car after driving it so little… no chance. I wish he would have said he made $100k, took profits and rolled it into a 3RS. We wouldn’t even be mad. Game is game. We’d all do the same unless we felt the 4RS was pinnacle Porsche…. Then he puts an EXHAUST on his 3RS 😵
I can’t believe anyone would say anything negative about this car. As someone who can’t afford one, this thing is an absolute dream. And some what attainable. Thank you Porsche.
@@DasCayman i mean it must pay crazy :D congrats to that achievement, problem is i live in germany and thinks work quite different here. I was expecting some sort of business to afford those cars. I‘m currently trying around with some business ideas here and there to get started
I really appreciate that feedback! Got so tired of all these journalists complaining... Maybe they were going from a GMC Yukon on Monday for a review and then the 4RS on Tuesday...lol
well, I'm not actually too sure now, he's also previously said that it's not super usable on the streets because to use the car to its full potential you'd be going 165mph on public roads🤷♂
It’s so mind numbingly capable fun and fast for road use. This thing was the absolute T*TS on the Nurburgring. Couldn’t think of a time where I had more fun. Thanks for the feedback on the video my friend 🙏🏻
I wanted to order the Spyder RS… SO BAD. I even had an opportunity for MSRP… but after driving the 4RS for over a year it is wayyyyy too fast and capable for my use. The Spyder RS would have been the same :( and I love my 987 Spyder too much as well 🙏🏻 Glad you enjoyed the video. Nothing personal against Luke. Just had to say something and speak some truths about this car.
@@DasCayman You had an MSRP allocation and passed?! I’m going to pretend I didn’t hear that. Mine is NOT MSRP. Can’t wait, even still. Nothing sounds like those intakes…
@@hbullock I try not to lay in bed and cry every night when I think about that… try!! It’s just too fast for my use. Look up “DasCayman lightweight flywheel” if you get a chance or haven’t seen yet… my manual 987 is the chefs kiss of cars for backroads. Would love to see your SRS! Shoot me a dm on instagram
@@DasCayman I see you on RL. :) I’m Adrift. My car doesn’t arrive until mid July. I’ll drop you an IM. The thing I like is those absolutely indecent downshifts can be enjoyed at almost any speed; no need to go nuts.
Luke sells all his cars very fast cause he doesnt know what to do with them after filming a few clips - guess you can film only so many coffee runs with the same car before it gets boring if you have no passion for it in any way. Nevertheless his whole attitude is fake af first raving that he bought his dream car (yet again) then selling it a few months later. Definitely no petrolhead to me, just an influencer.
I like Luke's cinematography but his opinions on cars have always meant very little me. I never understood why he buys Porsche GT cars just to poodle around at 30-40mph (I know Swiss speed laws are strict but still).
BRO THIS!!!! His filming and editing is 12/10. I’ll never hold a candle to him for that. But he gets these crazy RS GT Porsches and literally puts around in them… I don’t get it… Those mountain passes shouldn’t have cameras and he can always blur the speedo. Tbh he’s the reason why I made some of my POV driving videos if you haven’t seen already. Was tired of people not showing what it’s actually like to drive these cars. Search Boxster spyder dascayman pov
@@DasCayman Nice driving! In my opinion that 3.4L MA1 engine is the sweet spot for power you can actually use on a daily basis. Even at 7/10ths you're already going much faster than what most people would consider reasonable. However I'm a bit biased having owned/driven a 981S for the last +90k miles.
When you drive around 35 mph over the speed limit (out of town) the following will happen: Your car gets impounded, minimum 1 year of jail time, you loose your licence for a minimum of 2 years
So you don´t really hate anything about the car itself but what people say they think is subjectively "bad" about it and you just disagree. My man can´t handle different opinions.
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I hate not having one in my garage
Don’t feel too bad unless you literally live next to the Nurburgring. I think it’s wayyyyyyy too fast and capable to own as a street car / backroads. Slow car fast > fast car slow. But if you do fast car fast…. 🫨
@@DasCayman I think you're too slow for the car rather than it being too fast ahahah Also, it is too "drony" and the pitch is off when compared to a GT3. I'll take a 991.2 GT3, thanks :)
@@Kurotsukuyomi hold my beer th-cam.com/video/7qygcOkM33M/w-d-xo.htmlsi=DlB2kdfMQzjahXme
@@DasCayman pretty decent mate. Still, that kind of proves my point: it's clearly not too fast as you just showed you CAN wring it out :D
I mean, let's be honest here and cut the rationalising crap; it's amazing and way better than any other "regular" Cayman. I wanted that to be true, because then I could sell my GT3 and have fun on a Boxster Spyder but having driven both back to back on the twisties here in Portugal, it can't even come close. Not on the same league, class, or planetary system. And don't call me biased because I'd love nothing else than to have an extra 100k on my bank account for a Lotus Exige or Atom 4 :-(
@@Kurotsukuyomi it’s just too fast to be enjoyed on the street. Because once you start using it… you’re going 150mph everywhere… it’s a victim of its own success. Now don’t get me wrong, I wouldn’t change a thing about the 4RS, it’s a perfect car. But for me, and how I’m able to exploit cars, it’s too fast. Usually when people say a car is too slow are the ones who have no idea how to actually drive
The Cars with Luke mention was spot on 😆
I'm glad I was not the only one who felt that way... I was reading comments on that video and no one pointed it out...
The luke troll is amazing
Good clarification on the suspension for the street. I would love to have a GT4 RS. Also torque above 5000, if a person wants low end torque, buy a base C8.
So there is nothing you don't like... and the appropriate title should have been "the 4 things I love that others hate about the GT4RS"
Yes, but I needed to play into the fact that every review out there says the opposite of what I've said.
Regarding Luke, I'm with you that he sounds more like a salesman and influencer lately than a car enthusiast.
But thinking he mad 100k with the 4RS in the Swiss car market at that time is nonsense. I'm sure he lost 5 to 10 grand on that car maybe even more, prices were dropping fast when he sold.
There are 23 4RS for sale right now in Switzerland starting at 186k and they are sitting not moving.
I will admit that my Venn diagram overlap of low interest rate environments coupled with exclusive Porsche RS cars in USA and Switzerland is weak. So I am unfamiliar with how much profits both cars would make in each country, but I could only speculate which is why I didn't call out a dollar amount in the video :)
Do you know what percentage profit a Swiss car sees to a USA car assuming equal market environments?
@@DasCayman I have no idea. All I know is that the markets are very different, the Swiss market is tiny compared to the US market to begin with.
Calling out Cars with Luke is wild 😂
I religiously watched his videos until the bit on why he sold the 4RS…. Just tell us you made $100k and moved into a car that was lower on depreciation curve and still cool. None of us would be mad about making a quick $100k…. The whole thing was blown so far out of proportion
A couple ownership quirks-
1. The centerlocks are as annoying as they are good looking. Unless you buy the $5000 tool, its a two person job every time you want to remove a wheel.
2. I traded in a 992 GT3 for it, and I have no regrets, but I do prefer the looks of the GT3. It had much less fizz, was much quieter, but did look better to my eyes.
Thats all I can think of…
This channel will blow up, my man! Keep up the excellent work!
Thank you so much!!
I put a Soul Performance Race exhaust on mine and now it sounds PROPER !
For me the 4RS is the perfect car…it‘s so raw. Compared to the 992 gt3 it is a bit slower in the corners due to the double wishbone suspension of the gt3 but it‘s way more emotional to drive (the gt3 is missing the agility that the 4RS has). Soundwise it‘s also incredible. I just own it a few months and can‘t complain at any point
Really appreciate your feedback. Thank you! It's the most raw modern Porsche I've driven. Total theater...loved it.
Driving on the Nurburgring is a dream. Thanks for including the footage!
Hey I'm glad you enjoyed that part! Wish it was shot in landscape....but...I'm glad to even have a clip!
Great video! I agree the car is quiet until higher RPMs. Was the first thing I was surprised about when I bought mine. The volume is way over exaggerated.
Poor Luke! 10/10 trolling
Luke is wiping his tears of joy with $100,000 in 4RS profits. I bet he's straight geekin' if he sees this video.
I hate that I don't have one
Don’t feel too bad unless you literally live next to the Nurburgring. I think it’s wayyyyyyy too fast and capable to own as a street car / backroads. Slow car fast > fast car slow. But if you do fast car fast…. 🫨
Hello. Which one would you go for between the 981 GTS, the 718 S and the 718 GTS 2.5?
981 GTS. Great sound and good value. Stay away from the turbos if you’re here to have fun and enjoy the car. A well priced 981 GTS will hold its value better than the other two as well, if that's a factor.
@@DasCayman that is the best car advice.
@@9-and-3 happy to spread the good word!!
Great video. FYI, if you want to capture the best footage angle I use the RoadSpy RS1 on my Cayman. Way way better than those suction cups and helmet mounts.
Thank you so much! I really like the POV angles. I saw that the RS1 is more of a dashcam angle, no?
Amazing video once again. Looking to buy my first sports/super car. GT4 RS vs 430 Scuderia.. hard choices 😊
Ooooooo that’s a very hard choice. If it’s a street car I’d 100% scuderia for the insane road presence, theater and rarity. Was a halo car for me growing up.
legend man. how can anyone complain about this car? even in 15 years it will still be amazing.
100% bro
I hate that I don't have one.... yet.
You’ll get it!!!
Also don’t feel too bad unless you literally live next to the Nurburgring. I think it’s wayyyyyyy too fast and capable to own as a street car / backroads. Slow car fast > fast car slow. But if you do fast car fast…. 🫨
Best car they make right now by far. And still going for $30k over but down from $75-$100k. I will have a PTS example for the collection because its going down as one of the all time greats.
It's so mental... I cannot believe they even made it...finally!
its close but i might take the spyder rs over this. it looks so good with the roof off and the extra aggressive bits.
💯!👍. I could not agree more! Gave up a GT3 touring allocation for the 4RS-no regrets! Absolutely love this thing! Wake up finding myself craving the sound and chuckability of this car. Another thing I hate about the GT4RS, unlike the Aventador, is you can actually use the A/C to stay cool!😎
what year was this car made ?
2023
@@DasCayman ok my car is also a 2023 and it hates the bumps, and bounces all over the place in a very unplesent way. My 718 Spyder is much nicer ride. My car kicks the back end up and PSM lights up on every bigger bump. ]
I agree with all four points. I initially thought the car was too loud, harsh etc. Entertaining as any showroom car can be today! Great fun vid!
Thank you! I couldn't believe all the hate from the journalists on those 4 points....
10/10 editing and I’m only a minute in
I loved the Cars with Luke reference, some people is to soft for this cars
Luke sold his car for other reasons, the Cayman / Boxster remains Porsches best sports car with midship engine and no crappy back seats, 911 is the flagship model that SOME people buy merely for bragging rights and not driving.
Lol what were those reason? And Cayman / Boxster is the most fun for backroads! All the 911 dentists on TH-cam just don't want to admit it...I own a 911 as well :)
I'm from Maryland got a manual months ago and wanna be able to drive it daily and find friends I cant ive tried facebook and forums just cant find people to drive with and get more experience. Cant wait to take my SLK 5 speed to my first meet
Try to find a local car event or show in or near your area. Just keep showing up and be friendly :) Gotta be a friend to make a friend. Cheers
Did you miss when Luke said that he has a hearing issue and that the frequency/pitch affected him?
Bro… no offense but I’m betting the house on black that’s the excuse he used so he could flip it and profit $100k. The fact he also said he made “no money” on the car after driving it so little… no chance. I wish he would have said he made $100k, took profits and rolled it into a 3RS. We wouldn’t even be mad. Game is game. We’d all do the same unless we felt the 4RS was pinnacle Porsche…. Then he puts an EXHAUST on his 3RS 😵
@@DasCayman 😂
Finally someone who says it…😄 I also have a 4RS and don‘t get it…drove 6 hours in the mountains on high rpm’s - nothing to complain
@@skorpiro6722 I want to share this video to Rennlist so bad…. But I also don’t want to get stabbed lmao
@@skorpiro6722 I did Euro delivery in this for 2 weeks in Europe. Zero issue on sound or comfort whole time.
I can’t believe anyone would say anything negative about this car. As someone who can’t afford one, this thing is an absolute dream. And some what attainable. Thank you Porsche.
amazing video
Thanks for the visit!
Im new to this channel, may i ask how you got the wealth to own a car like that?
I’m a mechanical & systems engineer in defense. Pays well, lots of schooling though. Was worth it. Lmk if you need any tips or points of advice.
@@DasCayman i mean it must pay crazy :D congrats to that achievement, problem is i live in germany and thinks work quite different here. I was expecting some sort of business to afford those cars. I‘m currently trying around with some business ideas here and there to get started
@@derjaxxer it’s definitely a lot harder in Europe to make it “Big.” My dream is to live in Germany with my US salary 🤩
Rev limitter sounds soooo good
And it'll do it all day long....
I also own a GT4 RS and I cannot agree more to all the points you mention!
I really appreciate that feedback! Got so tired of all these journalists complaining... Maybe they were going from a GMC Yukon on Monday for a review and then the 4RS on Tuesday...lol
Wait did you buy it? We are so happy for you 🎉🎉🎉!!!!
I don't think so, in other videos, he says it's a friend's :)
well, I'm not actually too sure now, he's also previously said that it's not super usable on the streets because to use the car to its full potential you'd be going 165mph on public roads🤷♂
It’s a friends car that we openly share
@@DasCayman GT4rs Drift videos are gonna be sick
Love the video, GT4RS is pure perfection and will go down the history as one of craziest Porsche, how it’s even legal? 😂
It’s so mind numbingly capable fun and fast for road use. This thing was the absolute T*TS on the Nurburgring. Couldn’t think of a time where I had more fun. Thanks for the feedback on the video my friend 🙏🏻
The only thing i hate about GT4 RS - it's price)))))
We dream of a world where it’s all MSRP and unlimited availability 😭
Swiss Car?
Euro delivery and went through Swiss Alps
I hate that my 987.2 2010 Cayman S doesn't have that engine and underpinnings 😁.
Your Cayman S is all you need... I have a 987.2 Spyder and it is PLENTY
Fun video. Maybe a few too many swings at Luke. lol If only they made a spyder version… 😎 That’s my jam.
I wanted to order the Spyder RS… SO BAD. I even had an opportunity for MSRP… but after driving the 4RS for over a year it is wayyyyy too fast and capable for my use. The Spyder RS would have been the same :( and I love my 987 Spyder too much as well 🙏🏻
Glad you enjoyed the video. Nothing personal against Luke. Just had to say something and speak some truths about this car.
@@DasCayman You had an MSRP allocation and passed?! I’m going to pretend I didn’t hear that. Mine is NOT MSRP. Can’t wait, even still. Nothing sounds like those intakes…
@@hbullock I try not to lay in bed and cry every night when I think about that… try!!
It’s just too fast for my use. Look up “DasCayman lightweight flywheel” if you get a chance or haven’t seen yet… my manual 987 is the chefs kiss of cars for backroads. Would love to see your SRS! Shoot me a dm on instagram
@@DasCayman I see you on RL. :) I’m Adrift. My car doesn’t arrive until mid July. I’ll drop you an IM.
The thing I like is those absolutely indecent downshifts can be enjoyed at almost any speed; no need to go nuts.
1:23 🤣
Just telling it like it is!
Hate that Porsche went pdk only for rs cars
Love that 9000!
Too loud, l am not a fan of Luke either.
🔥😎
They fixed that one pothole on that bridge cause I used to find it every single time I drove it hahahaha. Now it’s not there thankfully
Luke sells all his cars very fast cause he doesnt know what to do with them after filming a few clips - guess you can film only so many coffee runs with the same car before it gets boring if you have no passion for it in any way.
Nevertheless his whole attitude is fake af first raving that he bought his dream car (yet again) then selling it a few months later.
Definitely no petrolhead to me, just an influencer.
Trying to justify this is a good daily car is just ridiculous lol.
It's possible.. nice to have two trunks... also have a bulletproof engine... could certainly get to work VERY fast lmao
"4 things i love about the gt4rs**"
Not me testing click baity titles in my TH-cam infancy!
I like Luke's cinematography but his opinions on cars have always meant very little me. I never understood why he buys Porsche GT cars just to poodle around at 30-40mph (I know Swiss speed laws are strict but still).
BRO THIS!!!! His filming and editing is 12/10. I’ll never hold a candle to him for that. But he gets these crazy RS GT Porsches and literally puts around in them… I don’t get it…
Those mountain passes shouldn’t have cameras and he can always blur the speedo. Tbh he’s the reason why I made some of my POV driving videos if you haven’t seen already. Was tired of people not showing what it’s actually like to drive these cars. Search Boxster spyder dascayman pov
@@DasCayman Nice driving! In my opinion that 3.4L MA1 engine is the sweet spot for power you can actually use on a daily basis. Even at 7/10ths you're already going much faster than what most people would consider reasonable. However I'm a bit biased having owned/driven a 981S for the last +90k miles.
When you drive around 35 mph over the speed limit (out of town) the following will happen:
Your car gets impounded, minimum 1 year of jail time, you loose your licence for a minimum of 2 years
@@terminatedphil Exactly, which is why I think it's too fast :)
@@DasCayman You are not wrong, but mind you the german autobahn is not far away and you only get to see in these videos what is safe to share ;)
I hate that I can't find a buyer for a kidney and half of a well used liver so I can trade my 987.1 for a GT4RS. 😂🤣 Any interested parties?
With a few choice mods, you could make your 987.1 nearly as fun!
yeah i mean its a track car, but again i have no experience so i cant say anything
It's a track-able car, yes :) All the "cup" cars from Porsche are real track cars.
So you don´t really hate anything about the car itself but what people say they think is subjectively "bad" about it and you just disagree. My man can´t handle different opinions.
Shedding light on the myths. Cheers. 95% of owners agree with my views but aren't fairly represented because they aren't journalists.
@@DasCayman Yeah, I´m not buying that.
@@Phantom-ni7jj spoken like a true covert 3RS owner lol
@@DasCayman No need to be upset.
@@Phantom-ni7jj Just managing all my internet trolls :)