Porsche 718 Cayman GT4 RS - The Definitive Porsche Cynic's Review
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Today on the channel, the most hotly anticipated Porsche of the last decade - the Cayman GT4 RS. A car so awesome, nobody thought they were ever going to make it - but they have, so is it any good?
Everyone else thinks so, but what does the Porsche cynic have to say?
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@jayemm another great review. But you must cut the section out about your history of Porsche and put it up as a separate video on its own. It will go viral amongst the Porsche community I promise you. It was accurate enough, tons of wonderful humor, weaved into it, it’s a classic. !! Maybe call it hint of a new series “JayEmm Shorts,” or “history, by Proff Emm.”
I second this idea 💡
He could upload shorts of his more controversial pieces so his popularity will grow.
Yes, but if he only pronounced the company‘s name correctly…
Wow this was the LONDON UNDERGROUND TUBE MAP OF PORSCHE CARS but not as simple.
Agreed. The intro is unnecessary for the enthusiasts, we know the story. Just get to the review! 😅
This car can look so good when correctly specced
Was just thinking that myself. Doesn't suit Banana custard yellow.
@@johnmitchell2269 it does but not with the weissach pack
@@fer1306 doesn’t at all in my opinion, just not a colour that works well on modern Porsches
@@samthoma2719 Ha!!! I've a deposit on a yellow Boxster GTS! Soooo looking forward to it!
@@tb-cg6vd enjoy and each to their own, but the numbers agree with me 🤷♂️
You should have put that exhaust microphone on top of the intake inside the cabin, that car is all about the intake noise.
A manual 981 GT4 RS would have been absolute perfection.
Apparently it has some kind of electronic exhaust sound he turned off.
I have a feeling this car has a soundaktor in cabin, I know the intake is literally behind the drivers ears, but it still sounds too artificial from the inside
An excellent history of Porsche from the point of view of us, the customers. Porsche needs to listen.
Well apparently they do .. Look at the current lineup
Too many errors and innacuracies
A masterpiece of a revue! The way you introduced this car by revisiting the entire history of this particular range of porsche’s line up, but more than that, the way you just sumurised it… « would I be willing to sell my soul for it? No… ». What a great car review!!!
What a fantastic and comprehensive review . James is fast becoming my favourite car journalist , the quality of script is of the very highest order. 👏 👏
Once again, JayEmm shows that he’s THE best motoring journalist in U.K.
A beautiful video for a beautiful car! *Stunning opening shot with the rotating camera on the hood..* looov it! Once again top notch wordsmith narration with that perfect recipe of clever humour mixed with vehicle stats and inside info. Just love these reviews. Best on the planet.
An outstandingly thoughtful and informative, quintessential automotive review. Thankyou Jay.
I enjoyed watching your videos so far and I love the effort you put in your videos
I've read in other articles that Porsche said they would build the combustion engine cars for 2-years in parallel with the EV variant coming out. The mid engine internal combustion engine in the Cayman may still have one last gasp of breath. Haven't driven a 911 but once I put some camber into the front end of the 718 with bigger wheels front and rear, the 718 is way more adjustable at the track. Love my 718 S!
Thanks J, great review! 🙏🙏
My God what a sound! Nothing beats Petrol coursing through the multiple cylinders in a big engine with a seriously growly exhaust…
I REALLY appreciate your takes on cars Jay, it's truly as easy as breathing watching your videos!
I'm especially proud that you get access to these unicorns and help us take off our rose-tinted glasses for a moment, look a little deeper and see the bigger picture 🧐
I've never met a reviewer that speaks as thoroughly and captivatingly as you and I look very forward to your GT3RS coverage.
"Escaped at the end of the Mulsane Straight" is terrific description/bit of writing!
Absolutely fantastic review. Really enjoyed it. 👍
Despite what everyone says, the 718 is a GREAT car. And the GT4RS, an instant classic. But yes, I'm not paying that money for any car, no matter the badge. Great film!👍
You sir are the most quintessential motor journalist bar none.
You're too kind
Great review, so well balanced and honest. Keep up the great work 👍👍
Great review and summary of Porsche’s history related to the Cayman. It looks an amazing car but the problem is there’s so few of them. Difficult to get excited about a car you never see, that’s so inaccessible and inevitably the few that are around will be locked away on garages. Do you think there will ever be a turbo one (like the gt2)?
You personify modern youngsters, living to watch others property go by.
@@johnsmith1474 maybe as a car fan he wants to see cars on the road? Just a thought 😂
@@johnsmith1474 I don't think there's nothing wrong with it. Owning special cars does come with its own responsibility. Sharing it with younger enthusiastic audiences. If we want these cars to survive the future, wouldn't it be better to let public see and experience them so they understand why these cars are special, rather than hiding it away?
I know firsthand how these kind of cars can change someone else's day. Back in the olden days I often found myself going home from school wanting to kill myself (bullies and all that shit). But a sight of a Ferrari 360 Spider in Grigio Titanio or even just a yellow 987 Boxster is enough to made my day and forgot what happened back at school. This is why as a content creator (car-related stuffs) today, I want to show to everyone that these cars exists not just as a willy-waving exercise but as an object of desire, something that can make someone else's day brighter. None of that is achievable if the car is just chilling inside a hermetically-sealed garage guarded by 10 SAS members.
i firmly believe that it is the greatest sports car ever made.
I've not driven an Emira, I'm sure it's wonderful, but there is no way on God's earth I'd have one over a GT4RS, should the opportunity present. And change gear yourself man! Loved the 911 history lesson. The Intercooler podcast has done something on that in recent weeks and is also worth checking out. And I'm sure for 200K you could get an Aventador, which would be a great idea, until it needs something doing to it. Can we have some more 430 content please.
Thanks JayEmm! A very fair review - I think you nailed it with your comments regarding the excitement factor of cars as well developed as this - they are so quick and have such reserves of road-holding that getting anywhere near their limits on the road is an exercise in frustration and antisocial to boot. The tradeoffs in civility probably aren't worth it unless you regularly do track days where I imagine the GT4RS would turn out to really come alive and be truly exciting.
A 718 you finally (mostly) love. It took a GT4RS to do it! Great video btw, loved the history segment.
I think this maybe the best car youtube review channel, great enthusiasm and character. cl65 video was hilarious when you gave an example of how the turbos sounded. Keep it up . (dont agree with the cls55 opinion though) Lol
That tracking shot at the beginning blew my mind!
I’ll stick with my two year old 4.0 GTS naturally aspirated for £65k new however much he hates it 😂
Best car for the money I’ve bought.
Listen to him sounds like this is the worst car ever made from the worst car manufacturer that ever existed.
@@heiner71 if you didn't know til' now Jay is not the one to sugarcoat for fans.
This man has drove abd owned the best of the best and it's his job to be critical.
Nonetheless what's good enough for some might not please others, that's perspective.
@@heiner71 Clearly you DIDN'T listen to him unless that 9.5 out of 10 he awarded it was in a foreign language to yours.
Try not to be a blind AND deaf Porche fanboy hmm...
It's a simply majestic car! I've had the pleasure. No video or audio clip does the sound justice. So visceral; so close to your ears. This is going to go down in history as one of THE GREATEST GT cars and one of the greatest sports cars the world has seen. Period
Haggis and mushy peas for you Sir! Two people buy this car: the cars and coffee crowd, and someone who uses it as it was designed for: a track beast! Thanks for the review.
Always detailed and enjoyable reviews and I always like how we all see the world differently - which is highlighted when I watch many of your Porsche reviews - different perspectives and all that. For example, your comment about the gt4rs interior lacking colour and comparison references to the 430 about how special that looks. To me Ferrari is like that kid at school, perfect teeth, perfect hair, perma tan from winter on the ski slopes and summer in daddy’s place in St Tropez, he’s popular for sure but do you really like him that much? He’s just a bit me me me to ever be a true friend. Ferrari is the ‘fur coat and no knickers’ car - attractive but no class. I see a Ferrari and smile, looks lovely, sounds lovely, but my heart doesn’t ache for one. That’s a car for other people, the Rolex brigade (you know the sorts, some people buy a Rolex because it truly is an amazing watch, many buy it because it’s a Rolex. Rolex screams ‘look at me’ and so does Ferrari - me me me. I look at the gt4rs interior and see beauty, class, form and function. It’s Tudor or Omega to Ferrari’s Rolex. The component parts aren’t just there for aesthetics, there’s a purpose which might even damage the aesthetics, but that is beauty in its own way. It’s not me me me, it’s you you you. It stirs my soul like a Ferrari never does. Different opinions are of course a great thing - if we all wanted to marry the same person there’d be one very popular individual and a hell of a lot of very lonely people.
That's a lot of typing to say you like grey carpet.
Great video and breakdown!
Simply excellent review!
One of your best reviews James! Honest and to the point.
Maybe more isn’t always better?
Sometimes reviews are just wrong
This was very well presented
Amazing journalism. Amazing shots at the start. Genuine entertainment. Thanks, Jay.
Glad you liked it. Took a few goes to get it the way James wanted it. Very happy with the result.
@@sportzntouring You guys did well on the other side of the camera for the McLaren. Also a good video.
@@Spenny909 thank you! That was definitely a team effort. We got a bit more experimental in the JayEmm & Friends video for this car... Out later today.
Big shout out to Antony ^^ for the epic Grand Prix reference shot
What a fantastic review
That 360 shot in the intro with all the sounds was fantastic 🙌🏼
Thank you 😁
James's idea, executed by me 😁
@@sportzntouring Got some nifty new camera mount, eh? Excellent stuff (shame it's filmed in February)!
@@tb-cg6vd no, it's all about the camera 😁
This should give you an idea...
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Superb review. I think you summed up what I feel looking at a car like this (reversing your 430 analogy), better in all the ways you can measure but worse in all the ways you can’t, in short it talks more to the head than to the heart.
😂 😂 omg that's rich, drive one and you wont say that.
@@mattyp3119 “woosh!”
Hi Jayemm. I have paused this video to calm myself with a stiff drink. I have one of these cars on order, due for delivery in late June or early July. I put down my deposit the day the full spec was released and it is a massive deal for me to come up with the AUS$ asking price. The thing is, I have such enormous respect for your opinion that if you don't like it, I'm going to be devastated. We'll that's it. I've had my drink; let's roll your film.
Brilliant intro sir, bravo!
End of the line for the Cayman. Agree Porsche missed a golden opportunity to dump the rear engine layout. Ruf CTR3 and Clubsport showed how easily the Cayman platform could have been adapted for hypercar power. It is more Porsche than any current Porsche will ever be.
The judge dredd impression was fenomenal ❤
That Porsche history was so brilliant, I made my son watch it. 👍🏾👍🏾
Great point about the price. No Porsche limited numbers car is going to sell at list price to the open market so it needs to be compared with stuff far and above. Where you would be hard pressed to choose the Porsche over it's contemporaries. Great video.
Oh what a awesome ride! You are so lucky getting always in the best new cars.
It's not luck, this man is a consummate professional 👍
Makes the 718 GT4 look like tremendous value
greatest motoring journalist on youtube
Outstanding review!
Should make the history section a separate video.
What’s the total price at 30:19? 😅
Thank you 4 this review👍 Let' s order the Lotus Emira 🎉
As a 928GTS owner this is the only current model that really interests me.
Jay, didn't know that you were a Dredd fan?!?
I'm a man of culture
Nice review. Your conclusions make sense to me.
great video!
Had my 987.2 CS out tonight then got to enjoy this afterwards. What a treat! I’m a massive fan of the Cayman and idolize the GT4RS but I would take any of the other cars in its current price range that you mentioned.
I like the difference your commentary brings. You spend a lot of time actually driving the car on backroads which relates to more of how I drove. I say how I drove as I have since moved out of Connecticut where I drove my Porsche 993 Cab rarely getting above 4th gear over great backroads for 10 years, roads probably similar to yours. I'm not interested in racing a car, just a great backroads car. I especially like your comparison of the GT4RS to the new Lotus Emira. Those who only read and comment without ever owning a great road car will most likely have no idea how you can say that, but I do.
hat's possibly the best impression I've ever heard of Judge Fed.
Be cool to revisit this car when the weather warms up
This car is why I like the Emira so much more…
more worrying to own 😅
Personally I would get the Emira only if I could find a good dealer.
It's cheap for a one reason or another.
Emira is what the mid 2010's NSX should have been; not the fastest thing (NSX never was), but in terms of feel there's little else that compares.
@@jonfrench7133 Because Toyota engines catch fire so often?
@@EvoraGT430 Not sure i get what you mean but the sound is more humdrum,
just not as special as the GT developed engine in the 718.
The engine in cars like these needs to be as special and characterful as the rest.
I particularly appreciate this as i’m moving from the boxer 4 turbo in the cayman s to the gts
Hope that helps to explain
Don’t know how it’s done, but the camerawork is just fabulous. 👏
Do you mean the opening shot?
@@sportzntouring Yes, the opening shot was particularly good, but overall the camerawork is excellent 👍
About six weeks into ownership of my 4RS so far... I agree with many of your points, but on the PDK aggressiveness, etc, I think the car just begs to be driven in manual mode, motorway or not. Especially with the shift lever and/or the paddles. You don't stop shifting a manual Porsche just because you are on a mellow road? Same is true for the 4RS, it's how it works best.
Can i ask, did you order new from Porsche? And what did you pay ? Do you plan on selling it at some point
Fully Agreed :-
"@jayemm another great review. But you must cut the section out about your history of Porsche and put it up as a separate video on its own. It will go viral amongst the Porsche community I promise you. It was accurate enough, tons of wonderful humor, weaved into it, it’s a classic. !! Maybe call it hint of a new series “JayEmm Shorts,” or “history, by Proff Emm.”"
I love Porsche history.
Great review. Little tech nerd note, I'm getting moire flashing from that jacket in 1080p.
Love Your Porsche History..
Must be my funny cigs.
Wow James, how did you get the wheels to line up like that for the side view, a petrolhead's Star of David, very nice. Goes well with the Genesis reference in the 911 origin story!
Sheer dumb luck!
Klasse - Great and greetings from Germany
Danke!
Well, I'm relieved that I don't have to cancel my order, given it's already built and scheduled to arrive in the first part of June! So, thanks for that! Even though the Ferrari and Lamborghini posters were all over the wall when I was a kid, the reality is that they are too shouty for me as well as not delivering the reliability and daily usability of the Cayman/Boxster platform. Perhaps my GT4 RS will be an exception but it WILL be driven on a near daily basis, mostly on roads and occasionally on the track. As for Lotus, the Emira definitely looks the part of a supercar (which to me is a bit of a disadvantage albeit one that I might be able to overlook) but I live in fear of the reliability of it, particularly in light of the weak dealer network in the US. I wish it were different. I hope it will be different this time...but hope isn't much of a strategy.
It's got a Toyota V6, what more do you want?!
I can only imagine how much over list you've had to pay to secure a slot. It's just not worth it at that price.
@@hdmk213 Didn't pay a dime over list. It pays to have a relationship with a quality dealership that's all. I don't flip cars and they know it. I drive them and when it's time to part with them, they get sold through the same dealership again.
As to the Toyota V-6, it's probably going to be reliable but engines are far from the only things that break. It's also still a pretty vanilla engine for such a special car.
Love the cayman
Hello ! Great and honest video as usual! Thanks you very much for that! Could you tell me what do you think about this gt4rs compare to an exige v6 410/420 ? Thanks for your reply
Love it! Although I’m not sure about it being “shockingly reasonable” in terms of list price. I suppose it’s all about perspective.
Very good review. I have this car as of two weeks ago. I paid list and I have 4 track days booked. The fact that I was someone who was going to drive it as such was one of the reasons I got an allocation. No dodgy deals, have just bought 4 cars from Porsche previously over the last 6 years, so a reasonable customer. I dare say were I in the market for a "special" Ferrari I would have had to jump through many, many more hoops and spent many, many more pounds. For me, this is the perfect drive to and then onto the track car, the perfect Sunday morning in the Brecon Beacons car: its combines emotion, engineering precision and in the right conditions, epic high-speed fun from an engine that I genuinely believe is one of the all-time greats. It's not a car for every day and Preuninger did not design it as such. Sell mine? No chance. I'm having far too much fun for that.
Are you in South Wales?
@@Escygt No in Cirencester, Gloucestershire.
Those men who smoked and had facial hair made the first Porsche, the open 356#1, mid engined, but the requirement for 2+2 seating meant putting the engine behind the rear axle. So the second one, a coupe, was the 356 as we know it.
What eventually became the first GT4 was something I, as exterior designer of the 981 range really wanted to do and persisted in pushing. I kept hanging pictures of it on the wall, but was always told to cover them up before senior engineers walked the studios. There was always the feeling that the 911 should always be unchallenged in performance on track.
One day, the head of the race department, responsible for engineering all the "GT" cars walked in unannounced, saw the renderings and championed it through to production. Thank you Herr Christensen! And Herr Piech, who said to let the mid engine car fight it out with the 911. Of course, we then only had 6 months to do all the special exterior parts so that it could be introduced before the 981s were facelifted into 718s.
We did it though and the GT4 (and related Boxster Spyder) established itself as part of the range....
The 718 facelift of the 981 was initially disappointing, but the GT4 did finally get the GT3 motor it always deserved.
Great review again as always James👍. I may be wrong ,but I think the price is over £200k for the GT4RS 😊
Porshce actually uses really good quality leather(top grain) in the upper door trim. Get up close and you can see the pores of the leather. Complaining the quality by simply knocking at it... One can say the interior doesn't feel nice enough to match the price tag of the car that sells more than 200k USD.
If Porsche added some padding it would feel a lot better but would add weight.
@@2moke2creen what's, lets say 40kg extra on a 1400kg car? Weight savings on road cars are kinda ridiculous
@@XavierGoncalves89 in that case why not add more sound deadening which would make it more street friendly but loses performance?
Because a dedicated sports car based on a race car series should sacrifice absolute comfort for lightness since it's not meant to be daily driven.
@@2moke2creen As far as I know, the RS models have no official series, the 911 cup car is a gt3 non rs and the race car cayman is the gt4 non rs, so they're not really based on anything nor are they homologation specials
Nice review, but…. James, you have to understand, none of the cars that you mentioned in the same price range are able to be pounded on a track day in and day out and survive. I see them all the time, pretty much every weekend I’m at a track day, The Ferraris and Lambos are over-heating their brakes or ending up in a cloud of steam. Taking it relatively easy on a British B-road is a really, really, really bad way to review the GT4RS. The lads at EVO and Harry did the same mistake. Of all the cars you mentioned as an alternative, they will be more charismatic on a B-road, but when you’re barreling down into Turn 17 at Sebring, charisma ain’t on your mind, a lightweight, precise, technical machine with plenty of power is what you need. The issue with some reviews of the GT4RS is akin to saying a Lotus just isn’t that thrilling because its not a good off-roader because you like off-roading and you have a lot of dirt roads near you. You’re using the wrong environment to test a track car. The GT4RS is a track car that you can drive on smooth public roads, rather than a road car that you can take to the track. It’s character comes out on a track. I think the GT4RS is for a specific sub-set of enthusiasts, those that are on a track regularly. It’s a cold, harsh, technical, precise thing. You know, a race car. You’re expecting it to be a charismatic road car, which it’s not intended to be. Exchange your string-back, 1960’s leather driving gloves for a pair of Nomex OMP gloves, a helmet instead of a flat cap, and you’ve got it. From that standpoint, the cars you mentioned are overly dramatic, overly unreliable for the job at hand. That job is to get around the track, as quickly as possible, consistently lap after lap, without a mechanical setback, for an entire day. It’s a racing athlete’s car, not a punters (well, unless you’re a punter who’s play-acting at being a track star). It’s the STIG’s car, not Jeremy’s.
£200,000 is a bonkers price for this. Loved the history and the conclusion.
Tbh the intake noise is beautiful but expect long term audio trauma or Tinnitus. Using ear plugs is always recommended
Oh YES! How befitting you put out a video on the best sports car in the world while we’re on the road in our Cayenne to pick up a used 2-stroke Cagiva for my eldest🤩
Is it a mito?
Lotus better
@@SKBSKBSKBSKBSK no it’s a Raptor👌🏻 Djeezes what a bike! Well worth the 260 miles round trip. We even got a blizzard on our way home😂
@@BrainFuck10 why get a depreciating car when you can have an appreciating one that’s better?
Never ask this man a question about Porsche if you have less than 35 minutes to spare.
Porsche is king
i used to drive a Porsche 996 Turbo. Very loud in the cabin.
Louder than I would ideally want in the car cabin.
360º FTW, give us more!
Look out for today's JayEmm & Friends video later today 😉
Pleasing to see traditional dials for speed and revs.
Surely the GT4RS must surely be a collectors item surely.
There has never been one before and there will never be one after.
I actually met an engineer who developed a 981 prototype with the GT3 engine and manual transmission... called it a 981 touring. Tested it in Europe and Los Angeles for over 100K miles and raced it the VLN as well
That would have been very cool
Is hard to believe that Porsche would make a dronie exhaust from factory, but seems a very honest review as always
If only it were manual.. Then it would be perfection.
I wonder if Porsche would try a GT4 Touring with that, or better yet a GT4 R 😮
I met an engineer who worked on a 981 prototype with a GT3 engine and manual. Probably held back by corporate.
@@joe718gt4 damn bean counters ruining fun for everyone..
Excellent explanation of the Porsche GT’s, you know most of us don’t believe that Porsche will go EV only…..
What a great history and review, spot on as always on all fronts. For the same money I went for the 991.2rs WP, which looks better. Can never quite get over the rear end of the cayman, the spyder trumps it on all days as far as rear end goes. Like u said I can get into a lot of truly exotic cars in this range so this def won’t be a top choice unless u are a midengine porsche aficionado. I would be tempted if the new spyder rs lands coz it prob looks way better, but it all depends how inflated it gets. 250-300k? Not a chance
You overshooted a bit with the full Porsche history.. that was a bit long.. Otherwise, good job as always
A really good review, and brief history lesson :) I particularly like how you're constructively critical about these so called amazing cars, as so many journo's just won't do this, they miss out criticisms. Being a long time Porsche GT owner I see this alot. Just one thing though James, please could you record the noise better INSIDE the cabin. The shots you do to show the noise don't work at all, no one will hear this car with their head stuck to the outside bodywork near the exhaust with all the wind noise too, it's not representative of anything. You need to get set your mic's up inside the cabin to record the ambient noise as that's representative of what the driver will hear. And as you know, GT cars including this one sound incredible as you're driving.
935 was a successful racecar in the 1970's with an engine, drive train layout, and passenger cabin that was derived from a 911. That meant instant street cred that no 928 could ever enjoy. Porsche was always going to favor the 911 and the rear engine layout.
This guy Can waffle damn, good content but why do I need all this history I want to know about the gt4 rs please
My dreamcar.
I nearly binned it 😂😂😂 thank you so much for your honesty. Was it the cup2's .. or was it the grease out the back of maccas?!
I worked at a chippy as a nipper (fish and chip shop as a young person for Americans) and used to nearly tuck the front end of my moped on all the starch and grease on a weekly basis!
This did make for good wheel spins in my classic 998cc mini 🤘🤘🤘
I have a 718 GT4 and am sort of worried I feel similarly. It's so immensely competent and capable and runs rings around my old 996 Turbo in the twisty stuff yet something is still missing. It just feels like the car has no sense of humor. It's a serious car for serious drivers. Perhaps it just needs an alignment and some hotter exhaust link pipes to wake it up, but as stock it's a gorgeous thing with so many positives yet falls kind of flat in some ways especially at mundane speeds where the older cars still feel an occasion and have steering that gives you a real granular feedback of what is happening in the front tires.
Interesting piece of history: the 914-6 GT was faster than the highest spec 911 around any circuit.
Le Mans 1970. The Sonauto 914-6 qualified with pro drivers in 4.30, the fastest 911 in 4.22. It won for sure on its first outing, but wasn't faster round one lap.
Just say it's not "your cup of Tea and park it" NUFF Said.