She wanted kids, thought once pregnant he would change his mind, but when he didn't get her.pregnant she probably thought having his brother getting her pregnant was the next best option, as then the kid would at least look like him. OP did the right thing saying nothing about the accident. If she wanted kids she should have said so in the beginning.
Op is not a bad guy. Everyday there are men and woman who cheat on their partners with no care in the world about their partners feelings, they only care about themselves. Then they try and blame their partner for them cheating to justify it. Hopefully Op and many people who have been through the same find that special someone who will stand by their side faithfully and live long and happy lives.
I mean in a general situation if you don’t want kids. Get a vasectomy, go to all the check ups. Then you won’t be having children, or at least it’s the most accurate way to not have kids. Birth control, especially pills are absolutely rubbish rates of success, they can be affected by medications, human error, and illness… he should have been honest that he can’t having kids. Pushing hormonal birth control on his wife when he knew it wasn’t needed was an asshole move but nothing compared to what she did. She wouldn’t have been able to try this con on him. But yeah she was an AH for cheating and trying to pass a baby off on him. Worst betrayal, not only that but with his own brother… gross
Not telling ur Wife u cant have kids and keeping it a Secret. That's beginning a Marriage on a lie about kids. Wife is definately the A-hole, But so is OP for keeping that hidden.
@@peelthismonkey when he has said, categorically, that he doesn't want kids, and she agreed, then no, it is not a lie; it is an irrelevance. You really do not have good rational judgement.
@@peelthismonkey Not to mention that OP has said that he has a very difficult time even writing about why he can't have kids. It's a very difficult thing for him
NTA OP, file for divorce and let her go be with her baby daddy. Let the baby daddy also pay child support and if I were Op, I would also take him to court for every penny he is worth having an affair with a married woman, let the wife go to him instead and have him support his child. Op should divorce her and move away, let her go suffer the consequences, he can find someone much better.
Op did right as soon as he found out his brother was the father. Also, if his wife cheated once, she would do it again. Hopefully op can find someone else to love.
OP isn't the bad guy. It's amazing that he even CONSIDERED forgiving his wife. While most would wanna know whether or not someone can physically have kids, OP's wish to remain-child free should've made this info completely irrelevant. I'm curious as to why OP's brother was acting the way he did or why OP's dad asked him to wait, though. This story feels shallow with not much explained besides the main points.
Yeah, because in most states, if a man signs the birth certificate and even if he finds out the child isn't his, it's his under the law as the child was born during the marriage.
Op is not at fault his brother and ex is you are supposed to be faithful to your partner and brother he said that he did not want children and she agreed so there was no need to say that he was infertile.
but why keep her taking birth control WHEN IT IS NOT NECESSARY? Those pills are no joke. They can you sick as a dog and he had her taking them for no reason. He should have just told her that he had a vasectomy since he did want children.
@@robingibson6561 I would say don't breed, but it is obvious that you have no idea how these things work. In any case, refrain from intercourse until you educate yourself. Doctors get things wrong, and nature finds a way. One has to be really ignorant to not have heard about people who have children despite being declared infertile.
OP NAH. Having your wife getting pregnant with your brother is the worst. Being backstabbed by 2 of your closest people in the world is the biggest betrayal of all
Shit. The dad telling him to wait it out. Until what? He's stuck paying for a bastard child for 18 years that he hates and belongs to his brother or someone else.
I think the point was for him to pass so he didnt have to see his sons fall out and for OP to take full control of all of his assets. That's why the father's video outed the brother as the father.
Other then op should have told her his medical problem, Op isn't responsible for what his wife did point blank period, It was her decision to have affair with op's brother behind op's back, and if she could have she would have told op it was his child, because though out this she did not once say she slept with someone, else during that period of time at all until back into a corner, Op is not right for not telling her about his problem, However she has 0 excuse for cheating especially with op's brother of all people.
NTA, OP simply didn’t want kids due to his trauma. Plus, what man would willingly raise his NEPHEW as his own when the kid’s real dad was perfectly able to?
OP is DEFINITELY not the bad guy. He should divorce his wife. She cheated on him with his brother, got pregnant by him and tried to baby trap OP so she can save face and be in a better position when he takes over his dad's company. Not his kid, not his problem. Thank God he had a prenup!
You know your wife had another choice she could have opted for. She could be the awesome aunt who helps with nieces and nephews. She can spoil the children rotten and then send them home hyped out on candy and soda 😂😂😂......ummm I did that a few times to my kid's dad😂😂😂😂
The omission of infertility is a big error on OP’s part. He should’ve just told her at the onset of the relationship. Still doesn’t expunge the wife’s cheating though. She’ll have to reconcile with being a single mom.
He is the bad guy for not letting her know about his medical condition But not the bad guy for how he dealt with everything else He needed time to grieve the death of his farther
Why is he not the bad guy for not telling her avout a condition that would have no effect on their agreed life? OP stated several times before marriage he wanted to be child free and the wife agreed, at that point its a non issue since the marriage is based on remaining childless. The wife just tried to pull a fast one but lost her gamble.
OP's wife WAS wrong, no doubt but, BUT OP should have told her about his 'TRAUMA'. That's something you tell your prospective wife to make EVERYTHING crystal clear. What she did was WRONG and I'm not trying to take away from that but if, IF she had had that small piece of very important info maybe all of this could have been avoided. If she KNEW that OP was infertile and popped up pregnant there's no way she could have even tried to pass the child off as OP's. I do feel bad for this innocent child because both of the parents were so careless and self-absorbed. What you do in the dark truly does come out in the light.
OP is not the full asshole. The only gripe I have is he shoulda said to his wife, that he is infertile is the reason why he does not want kids (as well as any other reasons). He shoulda said something once he knew they were to be wed. So, I believe, in that way OP has to take a small bit of the blame. Yes, it takes him to a darker place when he thinks about it. But, they were gonna now be life partners. She should have been informed.
Definitely not the bad guy. Just get thru the divorce fast, everything can be replaced. Focus on yourself and your business, and find time to take a vacation. Hit the reset button when it’s over and done with. You didn’t deserve any of this, and they now have to live with their mistakes. Good luck!!!🍀
I'll be honest, if I was a faithful wife I would be absolutely livid if I found out my partner couldn't have kids the whole time. Not because he couldn't have kids, but because he let me stuff unnecessary chemicals into my body for birth control when I shouldn't need to.
THANK YOU! I was combing the comments for something like this. if he was 100% sure he was sterile why demand his wife take birth control for years? this and other aspects of the story make me sure this guy is callous, selfish, and manipulative. maybe not an outright liar or cheater, but bad nonetheless.
NO MAN should be forced to raise a baby that is not his, nor should he pay child support for that child. My brother's first wife (they are finally divorced THANK GOD!) had slept with his best friend two weeks before hooking up with my brother. Two weeks into their relationship she tells him she's pregnant. My brother, being an honorable man, wanted to marry her for the sake of what he thought was his child. My mother, who is damn good at knowing due dates, told my brother and the now ex, that in order for that child to be my brother's, the baby needed to be born on November 6th. Guess who MADE the doctors hold off her labor for two weeks!? If you guessed my now ex sister-in law, YOU WIN THE PRIZE! They weren't even married two months when, on Easter Sunday that year, SHE LEFT HIM! Since leaving him she had three more babies by as many men. And who got stuck paying for those kids? YEP! MY BROTHER! *calms down* So yeah, OP is definitely NOT the jerk. My brother is now with an amazing woman who has four kids of her own, he has two by a nice woman who he's on good terms with. Even though my brother and his woman have been together over 25 years and they're not married, I view her as my true sister-in-law and her kids as my nieces and nephews and all of her grandbabies as my great nieces and great nephews. He took on helping to raise these four kids along with his two as they needed a positive male figure in their lives. My sister in law's boys view him as the dad that he didn't have to be (to coin the phrase from the Brad Paisley song. Corny I know, but hey. It fits my brother to a T)
He is not the bad guy. He said he wanted to be child free before marriage. Many men that make that decision have it for a reason. I don't understand why he forced birthcontrol pills on his wife if he was sterile. Could he have feared she was an adultress or was he not sure he was sterile? The bad guy is his brother for sleeping with his brother's wife. The brother saying a child is a gift and argued with OP because he wasn't happy about his wife being pregnant after the agreement was to be child free? I guess the brother will take care of his child now since they are a gift? OP was going to work on their marriage and raise the child until he found out it was his brother's. How could he be the bad guy after that? That is the ultimate betrayal of his brother and wife. If he was so jealous of OP maybe he should have tried to be more like OP instead of trying to take what OP had.
If OP couldn’t have kids why was he so diligent and so worried about his wife taking her birth control pills? This story doesn’t make sense…. If the wife didn’t know that he couldn’t have kids or if she knew that he couldn’t have kids, then why would she go and have an affair, knowing what the outcome would be?!
@@michaelmeteviet9702 there’s so many people that can have kids that are not infertile that have sex do not use any protection and don’t ever get pregnant. He could’ve just played it off like that was the case. This whole birth-control thing is just too extra.
This guy may have been told he can't have children but one shot in a million is all it takes. This happened to a friend. They did a DNA test and found out the kid was his. They did the test 3 different times all results the same. He wanted nothing to do with the baby. However the grandparents are part of the boys life.
They could have just been honest with the boy from the start...it would have been easier and cheaper. Even if they didn't want to trash his dad outright, they could have sent him to his dad more often so he could see it for himself. Now the kid probably rhinks no one wants him.
I think he was wrong for not telling the truth about his medical condition. It started out with a lie. When he should tell whoever he is with he can’t have kids. Outside of that the rest is on the ex and the no good brother.
Honestly ...telling them I won't ever have kids is just like saying I can't have kids.....unless someone is going to try to pull a fast one like she was trying to do.... so I disagree with your opinion...
Maybe he can put a little trust aside for the baby (mom can't touch), a gift from it's *uncle*. OP doesn't owe the child anything, but the baby would be his parent's grandchild....so maybe as an uncle, he could put something away for the child because the poor thing was born into a messing family, anyway.
People thinking that children are the light of someone's life or the best thing in my life is hilarious. Some people don't want to have kids and that's perfectly fine. But others who down others because they think having kids cuz they think it's the light of anyone's life is honestly sad and pathetic lol. If you want kids good for you but don't say it's the light of everyone's life to someone else who don't want kids. it just makes you look stupid
I'm on the fence with this one...They both lied to each other. She lied by cheating and he lied by omission. It wasn't so much that he didn't want kids he accepted the idea that he couldn't have them...and instead of being honest with her about this, he tricked her into marriage without having them. I say "tricked" because people change their minds all the time. What if she had come to him and said she changed her mind? Would he have played along wasting her time thinking they would try knowing he wouldn't come through? And she is just as bad, because why not just tell him that you are unhappy with some aspect of your relationship instead of cheating? She had every opportunity to come to him BEFORE she cheated. They both seem like horrible people who shouldn't be trusted.
Um... he told her up front no kids. No one was tricked. While people "change their minds all the time"... people DON'T change their minds all the time too. Even if he had zero medical issues and could have kids... if he didn't want kids... just because she changed her mind and wanted them, wouldn't mean he'd have to. He told her no kids... she accepted that. If she had ANY inkling that maybe her biological clock may tick... she should have found a man who was open to maybe kids down the line, but not now instead of "kids never." Cause not everyone changes their minds, even under normal circumstances.
Because he's a dick and didn't tell his wife that not only does he not want kids but can't have them because he was too selfish to go to therapy and take care of his trauma so that he could be fully honest with his wife so that she would understand the full situation. It's important not to keep secrets like that in a marriage. The birth control bit was part of the facade that he just didn't want them so that he didn't have to confront the full reality with her. Don't get me wrong, she did the worse transgression by cheating, and cheating with his brother to make matters even worse, but he is not blameless either.
Exactly, if that's true he's been lying to her from the start. Reminding her to take her birth control "every single day" means he's been lying to her on a daily basis. That doesn't make it right what the brother and wife did, but OP isn't exactly squeaky clean either.
Exactly, why let her take BCPs when it was unnecessary. Why hide this important information from the woman he claims to have loved so much. Him feeling less than was the reason...
well, I hope you refrain from sex until you learn a little bit more about the consequences and mechanics. It is hardly difficult to learn that many people who have been told they are infertile end up having children because the doctor was wrong, or didn't understand, or tell the man that it was only highly improbable. Also,he might heal in the meanwhile. So, as I said, research and keep your legs crossed until you do.
I clearly understand what you were implying with the comment I replied to. However, this last comment makes no sense and, my dear, it is your obviously challenged intelligence that is in question, together with your rationality, drug status and linguistic skills. The point is, having kids is easy. Even you managed. Understanding how that happens, and how it is possible to misdiagnose infertility, it seems, is a much harder concept for you to grasp.
How is he wrong for not telling her that he can’t have kids they both agreed when they got together that there will be no kids and she tried to be slick cheated on him and got pregnant. I would’ve been left her.
Op is kinda AH for not saying he can’t have kids instead of lien need therapy to get over that cause that’s important to tell a partner but the wife is the biggest AH for cheating and especially with the brother in law crossed all lines
Two wrongs don't make a right here. He should've been upfront on the reason for him wanting to be child free, yet she shouldn't have cheated on OP. ESH, in other words.
Why he didn’t lie, he told her up front that he didn’t want kids because of his trauma. He did exactly all he needed to say. It’s just sad he married a loose woman. It’s 100% all her fault, he did nothing wrong. Women always think they are entitled but in reality they are entitled to nothing just like everyone else. People always have excuses, it’s always someone else’s fault that they are horrible human beings. She screwed up just accept it instead of trying to turn the tables
Honest 14:57, i wouldn't care about her serve her without caring about her condition and fact is who hell who is baby father ive been wondering lol i edit more when i hear more
More bad guys all around. Op says that he had the right to keep his secret. That kind of mentality poisons the entire relationship. He openly admits it, and has no clue about what that does in a relationship. Yes of course his wife was wrong as was his brother . I just keep going back to how I would feel to find out this kind of secret in my marriage.
Honestly ...telling her I won't ever have kids is just like saying I can't have kids.....unless she wants to try to pull a fast one like she was trying to do.... so I disagree with your opinion...
Not only that, but reminded your wife to take her birth control pill "every single day" means he's been lying to her on a daily basis .. how messed up is that?
@@moniquek6400 No! because he didn't WANT kids either (and that should be enough) and there is still a small chance he would still be able to have them His wife lied about it though!
@@redditrage1320 missing the point-keeping a secret like that poisoned the relationship from the beginning and actually reflects OPs destructive approach to relationships in general.
OP should have told his wife before marriage that he could not have kids, not that he didn't want kids. Not want kids and not being able to have kids are like night and day in difference. That was so wrong on his part. The wife and brother are totally disgusting. There is never a reason for adultry nor betraying your sibling.
Honestly ...telling them I won't ever have kids, is just like saying I can't have kids.....unless someone is going to try to pull a fast one like she was trying to do.... so I disagree with your opinion...
@@redditrage1320, you can change your mind about wanting kids, happens quite often when you get older. So no, it's not "just like saying you can't have kids", one has the option of changing your mind and the other hasn't. Besides, having your wife take birth control, reminding her "every single day", when it's not needed, knowing that these hormones can mess with you, why would you do that to a person you say you love?
No. Saying you don't want kids means exactly that. I don't want kids, saying I can't have kids leaves open the implication that you might want kids and might look to alternate methods. This is entirely the Ex's fault.
Bruh no, what makes you happy doesn't mean it make others happy, And thinking someone is "sad" when they may not be just because they willingly choose to live differently then you, is a very closed minded way of thinking, Everyone is happy in their own way, respect that.
Ppl who think 'the only thing that can make you happy are even worse' and they go straight into a trauma when the can't have them And no, wanting kids doesn't make you a good parent by default
I'm sorry to say this but Op is a selfish jerk! Children are a gift from God and if he chooses to give Op a child he has no right to treat his wife like she did something wrong. I know for a fact birth control pills aren't 100% effective to keep someone from getting pregnant. I have a friend who started taking the pill after her second child was born. She took it everyday without fail but after her 2nd turned 3 she found out she was pregnant with her 3rd child. And sometimes a vasectomy can undo itself as my brother had it after his second child was born but then his wife told him she was pregnant.. He went to the doctor and after taking some tests they discovered that instead of cutting. They just tied sperm bag and it came undone so that's why my SIL got pregnant. My brother had it done right and welcomed his second daughter.
I’m sorry what?! How is he a jerk when his wife CHEATED with his own brother?! Who wouldn’t be hurt and angry about that. Cheating should never be excused just because a baby is involved. Let her go be with the baby’s bio dad that she cheated with it’s absolutely not OP fault and he is not a jerk for reacting how he did.
Actually no op is not selfish, and it's funny you over looked the fact I don't know OP'S WIFE WAS GETTING BACK SHOTS FROM HIS BROTHER WHILE MARRIED TO OP, MAKING HER A ADUTTERESS, And besides op's brother can just be with her instead after all he was the one sleeping with her behind op's back, so the child won't be fatherless.
Ppl who start an argument with 'god' should not be parents, as we already know you will force your kids into your religion and kick their 'free wil/choice' out of the window! And 'heaven forbid' a kid turns out to be LGBTQ+ as then they will be kicked out and shunned! Poor kids
She wanted kids, thought once pregnant he would change his mind, but when he didn't get her.pregnant she probably thought having his brother getting her pregnant was the next best option, as then the kid would at least look like him. OP did the right thing saying nothing about the accident. If she wanted kids she should have said so in the beginning.
Op is not a bad guy. Everyday there are men and woman who cheat on their partners with no care in the world about their partners feelings, they only care about themselves. Then they try and blame their partner for them cheating to justify it. Hopefully Op and many people who have been through the same find that special someone who will stand by their side faithfully and live long and happy lives.
Wife is the bad guy, not OP. Not wanting kids then having your wife be pregnant is a huge deal breaker.
I mean in a general situation if you don’t want kids. Get a vasectomy, go to all the check ups. Then you won’t be having children, or at least it’s the most accurate way to not have kids. Birth control, especially pills are absolutely rubbish rates of success, they can be affected by medications, human error, and illness…
he should have been honest that he can’t having kids. Pushing hormonal birth control on his wife when he knew it wasn’t needed was an asshole move but nothing compared to what she did. She wouldn’t have been able to try this con on him. But yeah she was an AH for cheating and trying to pass a baby off on him. Worst betrayal, not only that but with his own brother… gross
Not telling ur Wife u cant have kids and keeping it a Secret. That's beginning a Marriage on a lie about kids.
Wife is definately the A-hole, But so is OP for keeping that hidden.
@@peelthismonkey when he has said, categorically, that he doesn't want kids, and she agreed, then no, it is not a lie; it is an irrelevance. You really do not have good rational judgement.
Not really but I kown people who was told no kids my brother have 2 kids after the doctor told him he could not have kids @@peelthismonkey
@@peelthismonkey Not to mention that OP has said that he has a very difficult time even writing about why he can't have kids. It's a very difficult thing for him
NTA OP, file for divorce and let her go be with her baby daddy. Let the baby daddy also pay child support and if I were Op, I would also take him to court for every penny he is worth having an affair with a married woman, let the wife go to him instead and have him support his child. Op should divorce her and move away, let her go suffer the consequences, he can find someone much better.
Gotta love Dad. He’s a shrewd & smart man. Rest , Sir
After getting caught, she still tried to shift the blame on him and gas light him. There is no accountability. Im not surprised.
Op did right as soon as he found out his brother was the father. Also, if his wife cheated once, she would do it again. Hopefully op can find someone else to love.
OP isn't the bad guy. It's amazing that he even CONSIDERED forgiving his wife. While most would wanna know whether or not someone can physically have kids, OP's wish to remain-child free should've made this info completely irrelevant.
I'm curious as to why OP's brother was acting the way he did or why OP's dad asked him to wait, though. This story feels shallow with not much explained besides the main points.
OP..You are not the father!! She is trying to trap you!! Don't sign the birth certificate.
Yeah, because in most states, if a man signs the birth certificate and even if he finds out the child isn't his, it's his under the law as the child was born during the marriage.
Op is not at fault his brother and ex is you are supposed to be faithful to your partner and brother he said that he did not want children and she agreed so there was no need to say that he was infertile.
but why keep her taking birth control WHEN IT IS NOT NECESSARY? Those pills are no joke. They can you sick as a dog and he had her taking them for no reason. He should have just told her that he had a vasectomy since he did want children.
@@robingibson6561 I would say don't breed, but it is obvious that you have no idea how these things work. In any case, refrain from intercourse until you educate yourself. Doctors get things wrong, and nature finds a way. One has to be really ignorant to not have heard about people who have children despite being declared infertile.
OP NAH. Having your wife getting pregnant with your brother is the worst. Being backstabbed by 2 of your closest people in the world is the biggest betrayal of all
Shit. The dad telling him to wait it out. Until what? He's stuck paying for a bastard child for 18 years that he hates and belongs to his brother or someone else.
I think the point was for him to pass so he didnt have to see his sons fall out and for OP to take full control of all of his assets. That's why the father's video outed the brother as the father.
It a story. From pocket FM
Dude someone is stealing your videos and redoing the voice.
Reddit stories animated & OSA our stories animated
I hate this. Hopefully Mr Reddito sees this!!!
Maybe that channel will fix all the grammar issues this channels has
I just saw the same thing!!
Does it effect that channel if we report their videos?
@@stormiejojacksonyes it will
Demtra is no joke my grandma's middle sister sometimes have trouble remembering basic things.🙏
He should let the brother raise his own kid
Good for the brother
That was an intense battle. Good game guys. 🔥🔥
Other then op should have told her his medical problem,
Op isn't responsible for what his wife did point blank period,
It was her decision to have affair with op's brother behind op's back, and if she could have she would have told op it was his child,
because though out this she did not once say she slept with someone, else during that period of time at all until back into a corner,
Op is not right for not telling her about his problem,
However she has 0 excuse for cheating especially with op's brother of all people.
Thank you Mr Reddito
NTA, OP simply didn’t want kids due to his trauma. Plus, what man would willingly raise his NEPHEW as his own when the kid’s real dad was perfectly able to?
OP is DEFINITELY not the bad guy. He should divorce his wife. She cheated on him with his brother, got pregnant by him and tried to baby trap OP so she can save face and be in a better position when he takes over his dad's company. Not his kid, not his problem. Thank God he had a prenup!
Uhhhh, you will have to pay or hire attorney the longer you wait especially inheriting the company while married💯‼️
OP = NTA 100%
You know your wife had another choice she could have opted for. She could be the awesome aunt who helps with nieces and nephews. She can spoil the children rotten and then send them home hyped out on candy and soda 😂😂😂......ummm I did that a few times to my kid's dad😂😂😂😂
OP is the good guy. His ex-wife and ex-brother are the bad guys.
Should have finalised the divorce before inheriting the company
The omission of infertility is a big error on OP’s part. He should’ve just told her at the onset of the relationship. Still doesn’t expunge the wife’s cheating though. She’ll have to reconcile with being a single mom.
Not op I'm on your side.
Sounds like entrapment
Attempted anyways with OP having the ultimate trump card on his cheating blank of a wife.
He is the bad guy for not letting her know about his medical condition But not the bad guy for how he dealt with everything else He needed time to grieve the death of his farther
Why is he not the bad guy for not telling her avout a condition that would have no effect on their agreed life? OP stated several times before marriage he wanted to be child free and the wife agreed, at that point its a non issue since the marriage is based on remaining childless. The wife just tried to pull a fast one but lost her gamble.
OP's wife WAS wrong, no doubt but, BUT OP should have told her about his 'TRAUMA'. That's something you tell your prospective wife to make EVERYTHING crystal clear. What she did was WRONG and I'm not trying to take away from that but if, IF she had had that small piece of very important info maybe all of this could have been avoided. If she KNEW that OP was infertile and popped up pregnant there's no way she could have even tried to pass the child off as OP's. I do feel bad for this innocent child because both of the parents were so careless and self-absorbed. What you do in the dark truly does come out in the light.
OP is not the full asshole. The only gripe I have is he shoulda said to his wife, that he is infertile is the reason why he does not want kids (as well as any other reasons). He shoulda said something once he knew they were to be wed. So, I believe, in that way OP has to take a small bit of the blame. Yes, it takes him to a darker place when he thinks about it. But, they were gonna now be life partners. She should have been informed.
But you should of told her straight up that couldn't have children.
why?
why? He didnt need to as they both agreed to have none. You just sound like a victim blamer trying to justify her betrayal of multiple agreements,
Yeah these 2 had no business getting married after all that happened.
Definitely not the bad guy. Just get thru the divorce fast, everything can be replaced. Focus on yourself and your business, and find time to take a vacation. Hit the reset button when it’s over and done with. You didn’t deserve any of this, and they now have to live with their mistakes. Good luck!!!🍀
I'll be honest, if I was a faithful wife I would be absolutely livid if I found out my partner couldn't have kids the whole time. Not because he couldn't have kids, but because he let me stuff unnecessary chemicals into my body for birth control when I shouldn't need to.
THANK YOU! I was combing the comments for something like this. if he was 100% sure he was sterile why demand his wife take birth control for years? this and other aspects of the story make me sure this guy is callous, selfish, and manipulative. maybe not an outright liar or cheater, but bad nonetheless.
NO MAN should be forced to raise a baby that is not his, nor should he pay child support for that child. My brother's first wife (they are finally divorced THANK GOD!) had slept with his best friend two weeks before hooking up with my brother. Two weeks into their relationship she tells him she's pregnant. My brother, being an honorable man, wanted to marry her for the sake of what he thought was his child. My mother, who is damn good at knowing due dates, told my brother and the now ex, that in order for that child to be my brother's, the baby needed to be born on November 6th. Guess who MADE the doctors hold off her labor for two weeks!? If you guessed my now ex sister-in law, YOU WIN THE PRIZE! They weren't even married two months when, on Easter Sunday that year, SHE LEFT HIM! Since leaving him she had three more babies by as many men. And who got stuck paying for those kids? YEP! MY BROTHER! *calms down* So yeah, OP is definitely NOT the jerk. My brother is now with an amazing woman who has four kids of her own, he has two by a nice woman who he's on good terms with. Even though my brother and his woman have been together over 25 years and they're not married, I view her as my true sister-in-law and her kids as my nieces and nephews and all of her grandbabies as my great nieces and great nephews. He took on helping to raise these four kids along with his two as they needed a positive male figure in their lives. My sister in law's boys view him as the dad that he didn't have to be (to coin the phrase from the Brad Paisley song. Corny I know, but hey. It fits my brother to a T)
He is not the bad guy. He said he wanted to be child free before marriage. Many men that make that decision have it for a reason.
I don't understand why he forced birthcontrol pills on his wife if he was sterile. Could he have feared she was an adultress or was he not sure he was sterile?
The bad guy is his brother for sleeping with his brother's wife. The brother saying a child is a gift and argued with OP because he wasn't happy about his wife being pregnant after the agreement was to be child free? I guess the brother will take care of his child now since they are a gift? OP was going to work on their marriage and raise the child until he found out it was his brother's. How could he be the bad guy after that? That is the ultimate betrayal of his brother and wife. If he was so jealous of OP maybe he should have tried to be more like OP instead of trying to take what OP had.
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If OP couldn’t have kids why was he so diligent and so worried about his wife taking her birth control pills?
This story doesn’t make sense…. If the wife didn’t know that he couldn’t have kids or if she knew that he couldn’t have kids, then why would she go and have an affair, knowing what the outcome would be?!
Make sense to me, he never told her he was infertile so birth control is a perfect way to keep it a secret.
@@michaelmeteviet9702 there’s so many people that can have kids that are not infertile that have sex do not use any protection and don’t ever get pregnant. He could’ve just played it off like that was the case. This whole birth-control thing is just too extra.
You couldn't pay me to believe this story
You haven't experienced enough of humanity then.
This guy may have been told he can't have children but one shot in a million is all it takes. This happened to a friend. They did a DNA test and found out the kid was his. They did the test 3 different times all results the same. He wanted nothing to do with the baby. However the grandparents are part of the boys life.
He is still NTA as she stopped taking her pills ..
He is still NTA as she stopped taking her pills ..
They could have just been honest with the boy from the start...it would have been easier and cheaper. Even if they didn't want to trash his dad outright, they could have sent him to his dad more often so he could see it for himself. Now the kid probably rhinks no one wants him.
One question how did she not know he is infertile.
I miss how you use to say "Seeeee Ya!!"
He is not the bad guy but he should have told her that he can't have kids. Not wanting and not being able to have kids are 2 different things.
is this voice acting or is this the readers actual voice?
I am at nine minutes in, and I think the baby is his father’s baby. We’ll see if I’m right.
I think he was wrong for not telling the truth about his medical condition. It started out with a lie. When he should tell whoever he is with he can’t have kids. Outside of that the rest is on the ex and the no good brother.
Well, he did say he didn't want one
kids, baby trapping is the worst. Especially when the kid isn't yours!
Honestly ...telling them I won't ever have kids is just like saying I can't have kids.....unless someone is going to try to pull a fast one like she was trying to do.... so I disagree with your opinion...
Maybe he can put a little trust aside for the baby (mom can't touch), a gift from it's *uncle*. OP doesn't owe the child anything, but the baby would be his parent's grandchild....so maybe as an uncle, he could put something away for the child because the poor thing was born into a messing family, anyway.
Let me guess his brother the father
People thinking that children are the light of someone's life or the best thing in my life is hilarious. Some people don't want to have kids and that's perfectly fine. But others who down others because they think having kids cuz they think it's the light of anyone's life is honestly sad and pathetic lol. If you want kids good for you but don't say it's the light of everyone's life to someone else who don't want kids. it just makes you look stupid
So he's infertile but he never told her and let her take birth control for no reason. Yeah, this is fake.
Yeah, she’s 100% the AH but having your wife take an unnecessary medication is so cruel.
I'm on the fence with this one...They both lied to each other. She lied by cheating and he lied by omission. It wasn't so much that he didn't want kids he accepted the idea that he couldn't have them...and instead of being honest with her about this, he tricked her into marriage without having them. I say "tricked" because people change their minds all the time. What if she had come to him and said she changed her mind? Would he have played along wasting her time thinking they would try knowing he wouldn't come through? And she is just as bad, because why not just tell him that you are unhappy with some aspect of your relationship instead of cheating? She had every opportunity to come to him BEFORE she cheated. They both seem like horrible people who shouldn't be trusted.
Um... he told her up front no kids.
No one was tricked.
While people "change their minds all the time"... people DON'T change their minds all the time too.
Even if he had zero medical issues and could have kids... if he didn't want kids... just because she changed her mind and wanted them, wouldn't mean he'd have to.
He told her no kids... she accepted that.
If she had ANY inkling that maybe her biological clock may tick... she should have found a man who was open to maybe kids down the line, but not now instead of "kids never." Cause not everyone changes their minds, even under normal circumstances.
Fake story, if he can't have kids then why would you convince your wife to use the pill?
Because he's a dick and didn't tell his wife that not only does he not want kids but can't have them because he was too selfish to go to therapy and take care of his trauma so that he could be fully honest with his wife so that she would understand the full situation. It's important not to keep secrets like that in a marriage. The birth control bit was part of the facade that he just didn't want them so that he didn't have to confront the full reality with her. Don't get me wrong, she did the worse transgression by cheating, and cheating with his brother to make matters even worse, but he is not blameless either.
I think he’s the ah in the respect he could’ve saved her unnecessarily taking hormones!
I'm getting very confused by the way the story is told. He says one thing and then opposite and then a bunch of stuff that don't go together.
First to like and comment!!! Keep up the good work!
Sooo if he was 💯 sure he couldn't get her pregnant then why the birth control huh?????
Exactly, if that's true he's been lying to her from the start. Reminding her to take her birth control "every single day" means he's been lying to her on a daily basis. That doesn't make it right what the brother and wife did, but OP isn't exactly squeaky clean either.
Exactly, why let her take BCPs when it was unnecessary. Why hide this important information from the woman he claims to have loved so much. Him feeling less than was the reason...
well, I hope you refrain from sex until you learn a little bit more about the consequences and mechanics. It is hardly difficult to learn that many people who have been told they are infertile end up having children because the doctor was wrong, or didn't understand, or tell the man that it was only highly improbable. Also,he might heal in the meanwhile.
So, as I said, research and keep your legs crossed until you do.
@@mpmansell im 35 with a 14 yr old. You clearly didn't understand what i was implying. But thats ok. Not everyone is intelligent!
I clearly understand what you were implying with the comment I replied to. However, this last comment makes no sense and, my dear, it is your obviously challenged intelligence that is in question, together with your rationality, drug status and linguistic skills. The point is, having kids is easy. Even you managed. Understanding how that happens, and how it is possible to misdiagnose infertility, it seems, is a much harder concept for you to grasp.
The ending really was bad.
How is he wrong for not telling her that he can’t have kids they both agreed when they got together that there will be no kids and she tried to be slick cheated on him and got pregnant. I would’ve been left her.
Father was dying.
Father died
Father was dying .. again.
Someone needs to proof read these stories before reading
Op is kinda AH for not saying he can’t have kids instead of lien need therapy to get over that cause that’s important to tell a partner but the wife is the biggest AH for cheating and especially with the brother in law crossed all lines
Why? not WANTING kids should be enough!
Two wrongs don't make a right here.
He should've been upfront on the reason for him wanting to be child free, yet she shouldn't have cheated on OP.
ESH, in other words.
Why he didn’t lie, he told her up front that he didn’t want kids because of his trauma. He did exactly all he needed to say. It’s just sad he married a loose woman. It’s 100% all her fault, he did nothing wrong. Women always think they are entitled but in reality they are entitled to nothing just like everyone else. People always have excuses, it’s always someone else’s fault that they are horrible human beings. She screwed up just accept it instead of trying to turn the tables
@@buckshot5896 I agree ..and the 'but he should use protection too' doesn't fly this time
Honest 14:57, i wouldn't care about her serve her without caring about her condition and fact is who hell who is baby father ive been wondering lol i edit more when i hear more
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She been mid since the jumped
More bad guys all around. Op says that he had the right to keep his secret. That kind of mentality poisons the entire relationship. He openly admits it, and has no clue about what that does in a relationship. Yes of course his wife was wrong as was his brother . I just keep going back to how I would feel to find out this kind of secret in my marriage.
Honestly ...telling her I won't ever have kids is just like saying I can't have kids.....unless she wants to try to pull a fast one like she was trying to do.... so I disagree with your opinion...
Not only that, but reminded your wife to take her birth control pill "every single day" means he's been lying to her on a daily basis .. how messed up is that?
@@moniquek6400 No! because he didn't WANT kids either (and that should be enough) and there is still a small chance he would still be able to have them
His wife lied about it though!
@@redditrage1320 missing the point-keeping a secret like that poisoned the relationship from the beginning and actually reflects OPs destructive approach to relationships in general.
Interesting story but I suspect most of these are just that, stories.
OP should have told his wife before marriage that he could not have kids, not that he didn't want kids. Not want kids and not being able to have kids are like night and day in difference. That was so wrong on his part. The wife and brother are totally disgusting. There is never a reason for adultry nor betraying your sibling.
Honestly ...telling them I won't ever have kids, is just like saying I can't have kids.....unless someone is going to try to pull a fast one like she was trying to do.... so I disagree with your opinion...
@@redditrage1320, you can change your mind about wanting kids, happens quite often when you get older. So no, it's not "just like saying you can't have kids", one has the option of changing your mind and the other hasn't. Besides, having your wife take birth control, reminding her "every single day", when it's not needed, knowing that these hormones can mess with you, why would you do that to a person you say you love?
@@redditrage1320 He never told her up front I won't ever have kid. He said I don't want kids.
@@moniquek6400 You are so right. He gave her the impression he could produce if he wanted to. He was dishonest every time he talked about kids.
No. Saying you don't want kids means exactly that. I don't want kids, saying I can't have kids leaves open the implication that you might want kids and might look to alternate methods. This is entirely the Ex's fault.
Kids are a blessing, people who want to be “child free” are just sad.
Bruh no, what makes you happy doesn't mean it make others happy,
And thinking someone is "sad" when they may not be just because they willingly choose to live differently then you,
is a very closed minded way of thinking,
Everyone is happy in their own way, respect that.
Ppl who think 'the only thing that can make you happy are even worse' and they go straight into a trauma when the can't have them
And no, wanting kids doesn't make you a good parent by default
I'm sorry to say this but Op is a selfish jerk! Children are a gift from God and if he chooses to give Op a child he has no right to treat his wife like she did something wrong. I know for a fact birth control pills aren't 100% effective to keep someone from getting pregnant. I have a friend who started taking the pill after her second child was born. She took it everyday without fail but after her 2nd turned 3 she found out she was pregnant with her 3rd child. And sometimes a vasectomy can undo itself as my brother had it after his second child was born but then his wife told him she was pregnant.. He went to the doctor and after taking some tests they discovered that instead of cutting. They just tied sperm bag and it came undone so that's why my SIL got pregnant. My brother had it done right and welcomed his second daughter.
I’m sorry what?! How is he a jerk when his wife CHEATED with his own brother?! Who wouldn’t be hurt and angry about that. Cheating should never be excused just because a baby is involved. Let her go be with the baby’s bio dad that she cheated with it’s absolutely not OP fault and he is not a jerk for reacting how he did.
You didn't watch \listen to the story, he didn't want kids and he definitely didn't want to raise his wife's affair baby.
I can just tell, this person would cheat on their spouse and blame God....
Actually no op is not selfish, and it's funny you over looked the fact I don't know OP'S WIFE WAS GETTING BACK SHOTS FROM HIS BROTHER WHILE MARRIED TO OP, MAKING HER A ADUTTERESS,
And besides op's brother can just be with her instead after all he was the one sleeping with her behind op's back, so the child won't be fatherless.
Ppl who start an argument with 'god' should not be parents, as we already know you will force your kids into your religion and kick their 'free wil/choice' out of the window!
And 'heaven forbid' a kid turns out to be LGBTQ+ as then they will be kicked out and shunned!
Poor kids
Your brother