interesting given he's been somewhat critical of the first movie. believe he said Spheeris has a tendency to forget those bands were made of "real people"
@Cutting Yoko’s bra! And you believe that? LOL!!!! He said himself, he has a Ph.D in bullshit. He also said that he has never taken a sip of alcohol in his entire life. Anyone and every one has said time and time that he's the biggest coochie hound around. He has been seen out on dates with ladies. He's not just shaking hands with them after it's over. Get real.
Just imagine... The film in which Darby Crash is shown staggering around a stage warped out of his mind on drugs and booze, yelling "GIMME A BEER!" and having people draw on him as he's slumped over slurring into the mic is now in the National Film Registry... Who would have thought that was going to happen back then?
Its cool seeing two long time friends talk about that amazing time. I grew up in Sacramento and was in a band in the early 90s and even that time was great
Her childhood was insane. When you learn of her circumstances and the crazy stuff that happened to that family and see how she triumphed over the madness you can full well get why she gravitated to the punk rock scene.
I still remember when I first saw Suburbia back in the late 80s. I had been to plenty of gigs, but this was the first time seeing circle slam pits and real punk kids in a movie. Still awesome to watch.
About 5 yrs ago I had the great opportunity to see Decline Metal Years in a revival showing at the Alamo Drafthouse. We were all metalheads and had a great time.
13:54 The record store on Melrose that is still around, and trying to get Decline in store, has got to be Headline Records. A great source for punk and hardcore. They pull in some hard to find releases and the owner is a trove of knowledge. Worth checking out in person or supporting through online orders.
Great interview Henry. I love Penelope’s films, and integral part of my youth. Loved the punk rock film as it was what I was into. Laughed at the metal film because it was I was against but both are extremely valid and now appreciate all music. Love the interactions you are having and showing. 🙏
I have regards for you and loved your interview with Veruca salt. More power to your arm man, and I admit I was more scared of the sheer intense this game seem to be ... I love Beatles and also stones but I was aware of people who are trying to find out more about what we are going through. I am not sure if it's appropriate to ask you but I just wanted to say I reckon you're able to tell their stories from a place of sincerely
Penelope is the coolest grandma ever (she was already 47 when Wayne's World came out) and I used to have a crush on her in some VH1 documentaries in the 2000s
Want to see Hank in a baseball hat and hoodie or flannel just once lol. He'll still be wearing diy uniforms when he's swearing at nurses in the home lol. Respect to both of yous, showed the world there is more than one path for modern man
14:00 I hear this all the time from older people, but it's not really true at all... People like me that were raised on the internet age still listen to ALBUMS in their entirety, catalogue my album collection in alphabetical order, track by track, year of release, etc etc etc The whole fucking thing 🤣🤣I never stopped listening to ALBUMS... And recently I also started experimenting with listening to the same song for hours (a new interesting way of listening to music and kind of entering a trance, something I just found out recently, something unexpected)
Penelope Spheeris went to my high school ,she graduated a year or so before me,i did not know her,she had dark hair and was very cute,her sister linda i did know to a small degree ,Linda was a surfer,i was also,that was our connection,surfers were a relative small group of kids at weminster High,all orange county was surf mad in those years early-mid 60
Henry Peck ! Vinyl Fetish when it was on Melrose. He was always there when i shopped, was not familiar with the other gentleman. BLACK SALAD was next door or two doors down, and that shop was run by Patrick Mata's wife/gf.
Big respect to Penelope. Her Decline docs rule (especially the first one) and Suburbia was great too. Such awesome things to discover as a teen. It was seminal for me. Plus it represented an underground culture accurately. Not like mainstream clueless Hollywood shows like Quincy or CHIPS did. Salute to my man Henry for doing his usual good work conversing with legit humans asking valid questions and letting them actually speak!
Once the hair goes all grey, I think you'd be hard-pressed to see the difference between a fit, healthy dude at 45 and 55. And I say this as a dude who's almost completely grey at 35, who's just praying like hell I look even half as good at 45 as Henry does at 59. From what I've gathered from listening to him, it's all about pull-ups and sushi.
Yeah he started greying noticeably in the mid to late 2000s and all the way by like 2011, he's stayed the same ever since. He's morphing into the coolest, most badass grandpa ever
Henry Rollins must spend a fortune on black T-shirts over the decades. I mean,they fade fast after a few washings..so he must like,buy them 50 at a time or something. I wonder what brand he likes best? See? I have the real questions people never ask him.
She is a legend. Great filmmaker. Yet under appreciated. She puts the overpraised modern filmmakers to shame. The current stable of female filmmakers are put on this pedestal. Unearned. Look at her and Katherine Bigalow's filmography.
How bout this? Rent your vinyl(s) from the 'archival library'. No fee of course. Cant predict what you will want to hear later huh? Just pontificating.
You can’t really call Decline 2 a documentary when half of it was staged, Ozzy making breakfast, Paul Stanley with paid models in bed, etc. Props for catching a glimpse of Megadeth doing “In my darkest hour” though.
Oh look, the filmmaker who faked Chris Holmes getting blasted in his pool in a depressive episode. I instantly lost respect for her when I learned that was staged.
@@BH-cr5uo The second installment in the Decline of Western Civilization series became infamous for a scene which showed Ozzy Osbourne's shaking hands pouring orange juice all over his kitchen table while making breakfast. The shot itself where he spills the liquid was filmed and inserted into the scene after the fact by the filmmakers. The same film is also infamous for its interview with W.A.S.P. guitarist Chris Holmes which shows the musician floating in his pool while he drinks vodka and describes his alcoholic lifestyle in front of his mother. I'm not sure if it was ever proven (or admitted to) but many have questioned the authenticity of this scene as well, suggesting that Holmes was refilling his vodka with pool water and pouring it over his face as a joke; but if so it's never mentioned that he was drinking anything but actual liquor. The Ozzy scene was actually quite controversial and a lot of fans were pissed off when it was revealed to have been staged. I've seen many comments in the past few years that indicate fans still hold a grudge to this day against the film (and its creators), which was not a very flattering picture of the excesses of heavy metal superstardom. I'm sure you can easily find the Ozzy scene on youtube if you want to see it for yourself. Just search 'Ozzy Osbourne orange juice.'
@@Gekokujo76 I don't think what she did was so wrong that you should feel the need to deflect for her. Misleading your audience for artificial scandal isn't something I suspect most people would agree is morally just, but I don't find it hard to forgive the filmmakers. If anything the controversies surrounding the film only make it more enjoyable for me, personally. I understand that many others don't feel the same way though.
Thanks for the OG Decline of Western Civilization. That was punk.
That intro was the warmest display of physical affection I have ever seen from Hank Rollins
interesting given he's been somewhat critical of the first movie. believe he said Spheeris has a tendency to forget those bands were made of "real people"
Henry hugged somebody!!
I saw him hug Ozzy years ago
Smokey Bear 💕👍🏻💕😂🤣😂
your comment made me have a laugh!! thanks!
he killed grandma and also they weren't wearing masks. They're so selfish I hope they quarantined and got tested before the interview
@@themadmattster9647 Perhaps this interview was done preCovid? Henry is near bald (head shaved) now on his instagram
This is the lady I had in mind when I named my daughter Penelope. I love the decline, suburbia and Wayne's world.
Beautiful!
🎉🎉🎉Manimal ans Lexicon Devil are genius
I have always loved listening to Henry Rollins talk he's a very smart man & Penelope is just amazing & very intriguing
This woman brought us the Decline of Western Civilization AND The Little Rascals. Mad respect!
I think she also had a little something to do with a movie called Wayne's World.
And the Brady Bunch movie.
@@joeyday576 That was Betty Thomas.
Henry is a fucking great interviewer - always asks well thought out and nuanced questions.
Yes Henry is back. Love this. Mind food
That’s a cool lady! I enjoyed learning about her! Thanks Henry!
Comforting like tomato soup. Keeping the passion for ART is what makes us. Thank you so much
This! This is the truth.
Love the Rollins, great human being. Best frontman ever.
@Cutting Yoko’s bra! And you believe that? LOL!!!! He said himself, he has a Ph.D in bullshit. He also said that he has never taken a sip of alcohol in his entire life. Anyone and every one has said time and time that he's the biggest coochie hound around. He has been seen out on dates with ladies. He's not just shaking hands with them after it's over. Get real.
Really cool. Glad to see Henry doing interviews again. Can’t wait to watch more.
Just imagine... The film in which Darby Crash is shown staggering around a stage warped out of his mind on drugs and booze, yelling "GIMME A BEER!" and having people draw on him as he's slumped over slurring into the mic is now in the National Film Registry... Who would have thought that was going to happen back then?
Decline and Suburbia, two films that impacted my youth in the late-80s. Penelope rules.
Her movies are incredible, some of the best music films ever made. Rollins does a great job interviewing too.
Man, Henry Rollins is one of the few famous people I sincerely wish I could give it a hug and say "thank you, man". The dude is the real deal.
Well said!!
Just found this series with Rollins. He needs a podcast. Maybe he has one? Keep it up, HR.
Its cool seeing two long time friends talk about that amazing time. I grew up in Sacramento and was in a band in the early 90s and even that time was great
Really great interview.
@16:17 I just watched Suburbia again! That is time well spent.
Great interview henry.... bravo
Henry is in heaven! He is absolutely geeking out with these videos and I love it!
The first Decline movie is a perfect document of a certain time and place.
I love this woman's energy.
Penelope is a class act. Amazing director. Very cool interview by Henry.
Well done, Henry!
Excellent interview!
Her childhood was insane. When you learn of her circumstances and the crazy stuff that happened to that family and see how she triumphed over the madness you can full well get why she gravitated to the punk rock scene.
I bought the soundtrack to the album of the metal scene sequel when it came out around ‘88-89 I think.. Great stuff.
I still remember when I first saw Suburbia back in the late 80s. I had been to plenty of gigs, but this was the first time seeing circle slam pits and real punk kids in a movie. Still awesome to watch.
I had her docs on VHS 1 + 2 watching so many times when I was young especially the metal years man I watch that so many times
He Never Died is one of the best horror films of the past 10 years
About 5 yrs ago I had the great opportunity to see Decline Metal Years in a revival showing at the Alamo Drafthouse. We were all metalheads and had a great time.
Damn Henry!
You DO go on!!
ALWAYS entertaining!
Thank you!!
(seven step-fathers! Jesus!)
By all means, please carry on!!
We need you!
Man, I love Henry.
She’s a National Treasure. 🤎
13:54 The record store on Melrose that is still around, and trying to get Decline in store, has got to be Headline Records. A great source for punk and hardcore. They pull in some hard to find releases and the owner is a trove of knowledge. Worth checking out in person or supporting through online orders.
I love Headline Records! I got so many patches and shirts from there!
Great interview Henry. I love Penelope’s films, and integral part of my youth. Loved the punk rock film as it was what I was into. Laughed at the metal film because it was I was against but both are extremely valid and now appreciate all music. Love the interactions you are having and showing. 🙏
Dig these interviews.
I have regards for you and loved your interview with Veruca salt. More power to your arm man, and I admit I was more scared of the sheer intense this game seem to be ... I love Beatles and also stones but I was aware of people who are trying to find out more about what we are going through. I am not sure if it's appropriate to ask you but I just wanted to say I reckon you're able to tell their stories from a place of sincerely
Huge fan of her movies
Fine interview, Mr. Rollins. Thank you for actually listening to Penelope and having an intelligent conversation.
30 sec in and i can tell they def hooked up at one point. lmao jokes aside two legends right here.
lovelovelove
If Penelope hasn't written a book......she should!!
I still want to see your early PFunk footage in full Penelope!
Good stuff!
Penelope is the coolest grandma ever (she was already 47 when Wayne's World came out) and I used to have a crush on her in some VH1 documentaries in the 2000s
Big fan of Suburbia Peneope's first fiction movie.
Where did they shoot this? That looks like a Trident console behind them. And its immaculate.
Henry’s hands are like two annoying carp I’m so thankful for her
Want to see Hank in a baseball hat and hoodie or flannel just once lol. He'll still be wearing diy uniforms when he's swearing at nurses in the home lol. Respect to both of yous, showed the world there is more than one path for modern man
i dont think i knew how many huge projects shes done, i always just think decline, and suburbia
Captain Calamity Wayne’s World
they're adorable
A bit of a tangent comment....but I would love for someone to Interview Henry on his process for songwriting.
14:00 I hear this all the time from older people, but it's not really true at all... People like me that were raised on the internet age still listen to ALBUMS in their entirety, catalogue my album collection in alphabetical order, track by track, year of release, etc etc etc The whole fucking thing 🤣🤣I never stopped listening to ALBUMS... And recently I also started experimenting with listening to the same song for hours (a new interesting way of listening to music and kind of entering a trance, something I just found out recently, something unexpected)
so yeah, the whole point was: that is not exclusive to vinyl
In a cab with Foghat! That's fucking cool!
what's the song played in the background at the very beginning of the vid ?
Are you filming this at 606 ? Looks like Dave's 8028 in the background.
Maybe not, looks a bit more modern than the 8028. Cool desk still
Penelope Spheeris went to my high school ,she graduated a year or so before me,i did not know her,she had dark hair and was very cute,her sister linda i did know to a small degree ,Linda was a surfer,i was also,that was our connection,surfers were a relative small group of kids at weminster High,all orange county was surf mad in those years early-mid 60
Thank u PSpheeris forever and ever for making weed better((((( HBaked 4Life
I don't know whose (film titled) Suburbia I enjoyed more, hers or Linklater's. Apples and oranges, I 'spose.
Henry Peck ! Vinyl Fetish when it was on Melrose. He was always there when i shopped, was not familiar with the other gentleman. BLACK SALAD was next door or two doors down, and that shop was run by Patrick Mata's wife/gf.
Big respect to Penelope. Her Decline docs rule (especially the first one) and Suburbia was great too. Such awesome things to discover as a teen. It was seminal for me. Plus it represented an underground culture accurately. Not like mainstream clueless Hollywood shows like Quincy or CHIPS did. Salute to my man Henry for doing his usual good work conversing with legit humans asking valid questions and letting them actually speak!
But that Quincy episode is a camp classic. I never saw the CHiPs episode.
@@joeyday576 Not saying I didn't enjoy those! True mainstream comedy LOL
Jimmy Spheeris - ‘Isle Of View’ album instead.
Henry stopped aging like 10 years ago
Once the hair goes all grey, I think you'd be hard-pressed to see the difference between a fit, healthy dude at 45 and 55. And I say this as a dude who's almost completely grey at 35, who's just praying like hell I look even half as good at 45 as Henry does at 59. From what I've gathered from listening to him, it's all about pull-ups and sushi.
His hair color has finally caught up to that patch of gray he's had in the back of his head for the past 30 years.
guy is healthy af other than the rage and coffee lol
Yeah he started greying noticeably in the mid to late 2000s and all the way by like 2011, he's stayed the same ever since. He's morphing into the coolest, most badass grandpa ever
Her life story should be a well made Indie film.
Who would play Mike Myers, I wonder?
She might be 74 now (which is a crazy thing) but it's clear she could have another 20 good years ahead of her.
Henry Rollins must spend a fortune on black T-shirts over the decades. I mean,they fade fast after a few washings..so he must like,buy them 50 at a time or something.
I wonder what brand he likes best?
See? I have the real questions people never ask him.
Back in the '90's, he did photographic commercials for gap.
So, he most likely has an "in".
He and Roger Waters must buy them in bulk. Must be a big discount!
I'd have thought there'd be a healthy market for ex-Rollins shirts - at least covering new shirt expenditure.
It's the same shirt. He just never washed it.
You’re quite the observer brah
She is a legend. Great filmmaker. Yet under appreciated. She puts the overpraised modern filmmakers to shame. The current stable of female filmmakers are put on this pedestal. Unearned. Look at her and Katherine Bigalow's filmography.
wasnt she married to lee ving for a while? idk i remember something like that
No. She met Sin while filming Decline and has been with him since 1998.
She is rad...seven step dads. Wow. That sounds pretty terrible. She is a survivor, a warrior, a rock. Love her.
She’s not mad anymore about Henry not doing suburbia ?
How bout this? Rent your vinyl(s) from the 'archival library'. No fee of course. Cant predict what you will want to hear later huh? Just pontificating.
You can’t really call Decline 2 a documentary when half of it was staged, Ozzy making breakfast, Paul Stanley with paid models in bed, etc. Props for catching a glimpse of Megadeth doing “In my darkest hour” though.
It was about the heavy metal scene though, that’s a documentary to me. It wasn’t Spinal Tap.
even the Chris Holmes scene was staged, though it's hilarious and iconic lol
How in the $%^# does one move there way through to a normal life after that kind of tremendous trauma?
Music helps...
Cuz we are love and light body
Anyone else thinks she looks kinda like Christina P?
Thanks mom
Does she admit that Chris Holmes was drinking water in those vodka bottles?
the two decline of the western civilization are masterpieces.
There are 3 of them.
It's all about sound'e not music..with or without words...haha...
SUBURBIA
Wtf
Weird how Henry is nice to the woman who framed the metal community to look bad then excuse legislation for censorship.
Oh look, the filmmaker who faked Chris Holmes getting blasted in his pool in a depressive episode. I instantly lost respect for her when I learned that was staged.
She's not a real documentary filmmaker, because a lot of her scenes were staged.
Which one? What film?
documentaries can have staged scenes. just ask errol morris or werner herzog.
@@BH-cr5uo The second installment in the Decline of Western Civilization series became infamous for a scene which showed Ozzy Osbourne's shaking hands pouring orange juice all over his kitchen table while making breakfast. The shot itself where he spills the liquid was filmed and inserted into the scene after the fact by the filmmakers. The same film is also infamous for its interview with W.A.S.P. guitarist Chris Holmes which shows the musician floating in his pool while he drinks vodka and describes his alcoholic lifestyle in front of his mother. I'm not sure if it was ever proven (or admitted to) but many have questioned the authenticity of this scene as well, suggesting that Holmes was refilling his vodka with pool water and pouring it over his face as a joke; but if so it's never mentioned that he was drinking anything but actual liquor.
The Ozzy scene was actually quite controversial and a lot of fans were pissed off when it was revealed to have been staged. I've seen many comments in the past few years that indicate fans still hold a grudge to this day against the film (and its creators), which was not a very flattering picture of the excesses of heavy metal superstardom. I'm sure you can easily find the Ozzy scene on youtube if you want to see it for yourself. Just search 'Ozzy Osbourne orange juice.'
@@sdfgikbvcdfjy I knew that Ozzy wasnt really shakey and that Chris Holmes never had a crippling alcohol problem. Thanks for opening our eyes.
@@Gekokujo76 I don't think what she did was so wrong that you should feel the need to deflect for her. Misleading your audience for artificial scandal isn't something I suspect most people would agree is morally just, but I don't find it hard to forgive the filmmakers. If anything the controversies surrounding the film only make it more enjoyable for me, personally. I understand that many others don't feel the same way though.