As an Australian I am impressed at the respect and positive comments offered for Gizzy by the NASCAR fraternity in the U.S. Real gentlemen racers and good sportsmanship is a major part of the sport for me. Cheers from Oz.
Americans like to see people do well and succeed. They don't have the 'Tall Poppy Syndrome' issue we have in Australia where people are negative towards people who standout from the crowd and do well. We ridicule American society, but they absolutely do many things very right.
As a New Zealander, SVG is always being bashed by the Australian media for their lack of respect for his talent, perhaps now they can see the true skill he has. So much respect shown in the US for SVG, gentlemen do exist.
living here in Thailand where they drive on the left had side, its not much more difficult than right hand side driving.....you just have to remember how you approach and or turn on the cornering that is really the only difference!
Unfortunately streaming won't do it. You need to put the series in front of eyeballs before people even know it is there. You don't get that until it's on a major network. I believe that the Americans would certainly get it. We've had all these other cars in Australia which most Americans have no idea about which really were the genesis of the format we have today, but the racing is world class. It really is 'Circuit & Street NASCAR' now, mainly as we do not have the history or culture that spawned the oval tracks. While we on the outside of the US have always seen audiences there to be very parochial and only really caring about their own series, there seems to have been a shift in the last 12 months or so. F1 coming to LV, the Le Mans experiment which seems to have captured the attention in the US, and now SVG winning bringing attention to Supercars. And I have to say to my American friends, I am impressed with all you guys for taking a wider international view. I dream of the day where we can have Supercars running a couple of races per year in the US and we get to see the NASCAR guys down here. Even having a half/half field with some additional parity rule changes to get them even closer, and then let 10-13 of each category on the track together. That would be epic.
@@MonstaAU you've got this all backwards and I'll explain why. In 2014 Supercars was all set to expand internationally and wanted a US race to show off the series. Turns out that the series can't add international drivers and races without the national sanctioning body losing the rights to control the series. This is because Supercars falls under the jurisdiction of the FIA for the rules package they use, but because the series limits itself to Australia and New Zealand, the Australian sanctioning body CAMS keeps control of the series, including broadcasting rights. The series doesn't have to sell broadcast rights outside of Australia, they're doing just fine for themselves. They offer Superview as a service to make up for the lack of international broadcast rights and no overseas races. You're under the impression that they need US TV to be relevant, when they're already relevant to anyone that pays attention to racing outside of the NASCAR bubble.
I've been missing Benny Parsons for a very long time -- I think Junior is already Benny's equal, and just might become known as the best voice and the best representative of NASCAR.
The level of commitment the SuperCar drivers exhibit at Bathurst is incredible. Heavy cars, relatively narrow tires, big horsepower, high speed, blind corners, elevation change, etc. equals big time show of skill.
Bathurst puts to test pretty much every skill a driver has. Amazing track. In the world, only Spa can be called ebtter IMO, and that's because Spa has Eau Rouge being the difference maker in it's favor
Having walked the Bathurst track, it's mind blowing how steep the track is in places, hard to walk up the hills, how blind a lot of the corners are. It's a track that requires incredible skill and commitment, and SVG is quite at home there.
Great interview Dale. I can tell you, though that anybody in Australia who knows racing does not look down on the American NASCAR drivers after that race. We know how tough and competitive it is in that series, and it’s just that SVG is a pretty phenomenal racing driver. I appreciate your comments because you are open-minded and I also appreciate the words from Kyle Larson who just wanted to learn what SVG was doing so he could get better. For me, that shows why you guys are champions.
100% agreed , I think it's safe to say there is a deep mutual respect between most of the drivers of each category. Shane has an ability to learn and adapt to a new car very quickly. Add to that , the similarities of the cars and the street circuit , I think most Aussie supercars fans knew this was a very likely outcome. Put him on an oval and it would be a different story but still a challenge that he would take on with total commitment and all of his ability.
NASCAR is non stop learning curve, do you go high or low on oval circuit lap. There is a certain groove after numerous laps, but always ear full advice from non racing team members.
A small fact that everyone has missed is that just a week earlier, SVG walked into a (new to him) team, borrowed a few mechanics, and tweaked their work experience car, that was previously set up for a completely different race and driver, into a race winner. We can argue about how much better as a driver he may have been on race day, but considering what he achieved with the car in just that single week preceding is exceptional.
Don't forget they used all the top self parts, setups and knowledge from their other teams to do this. They were "not afraid to push every limit and corner they could push or cut".. Justin, being a very clean and smooth driver two win or so being his only real competition that day says pretty much everything !! While both are great people and did a great job
as a brazilian follower of both series, I hope that I can watch The Great Race someday. It's #1 or #1-A (with Spa) in my scale of most incredible laps in the world. Mount Panorama has it all. Wish I could have saw the years of Ford-Holden battle, and the international years also with Nissan, Mercedes and Volvo recently.
@@jimbob8969 the difference is when they're not running in a pack ... Lower talent drivers can drive a car full throttle at Dega when not in a pack. Try driving a V8 car on a street course on the ragged edge with a lower talented driver and compare lap times.
Holy crap....after hearing Dale talk about Bathurst, I went on a little rabbit hole. And again, holy crap. That track looks absolutely wild and fun to watch. But bat sh*t crazy at the same time!!
@@justincanny1571 it's a smooth climb, at least on tv. Pit straight is the lowest part, from there on it's going uphill until McPhillamy. And down from Skyline
all the ones who complained about the new car being difficult to drive..... they just saw that practice with a car with a transaxle and independent suspension makes it where you are a better driver. Like KFB said, the V8 Supercar guys have been driving this style of car for years, and they have been racing on street courses the entire time. That is why they are ahead. as kyle larson said: we all have room for improvement. and, no it is not the car, the drivers can get better at their craft. Look at Tyler Reddick and even Ty Gibbs, this is the only CUP car they know. they are good at it out of the box, nothing to unlearn. and, yes, the fans need to get with the program, too. no more whining about lug nuts!
I think it has way more to do with the first ever street course for nascar than him being that much better. If this were at any of the regular nascar tracks he would have been mid to back of the field finish
He'd do well there too, you need to look at his performance in his WRC outing last year It's obvious that he has ruffled a few feathers, and you septics are pissed off that he did so well... which everybody else who knew of him realised he would. I'll say it again.... SVG is the BEST closed wheel formula(s) driver in the world at this moment in time.
@@smudent2010 You don't know Shane like we know Shane, He ran in the WRC (World Rally Comp) for the first time ever last yr and got a podium, He won the NZ Grand Prix in an open wheeler, He has won races on the dirt in Sprint Cars in his first attempt at the sport. This Guy lives for racing, it's all he does. Given 5-6 races on an oval, he would be a top runner. Look how fellow New Zealander Scotty Mac adapted to Indy Car in a short time. Racing V8 Supercars on the tracks they race on results in drivers having overall better racing skills.
@@bighand1530I am. I’m keen to see how Kyle Larson goes. He impressed me with his comments after the race so I’m keen to see how he does the rest of the season.
Just wait till it's 4 hours of doing circles. Sorry, ovals. Zzzzzz. Spot of rain and they postpone a race. It's probably the least exciting motorsport. Actually, I'll challenge you to name a motorsport more boring.
heel/toe, apexes, turns to the right waaaay more too....Plus, prior to V8 Supercar's redesign, aka back in the Holden days with the 4 door sedans, they were much closer to STOCK cars than Nascar ever has been in Decades. Kudos to Dale mentioning Mt. Panorama's race track.
The tight twisty's on the Downhill side are the treacherous corners on that track as well!..... IMHO master getting those in traffic smoothly and you can drive anything anywhere!.......
Don't panic Yank's, Shane is an awesome talent in many different forms of motor sports. He is brilliant in the wet, and has massive street circuit experience. He's not put off by the concrete barriers. Your boy's will have learnt a lot from this race. Good stuff Gissy...
Drivers outside of NASCAR could not handle the old heavy cars with small brakes and high horsepower, that is why NASCAR dumbdown the new car, put big brakes and wide tires and lighten the car so outside drivers could come here and win
It was the perfect storm; first cup series street course race in history, inclement weather, and SVG was in great equipment. It was awesome to witness it as it unfolded. NASCAR definitely hit lightning in a bottle.
Yep. Still havent stop smilin. Especially afta watchin the incar footage from 2hrs in until the end. Hecshowcases his amazing skill for all t see right there.🇳🇿🤘
Yep, everything Dale said. I've watched V8 Supercars for years here in the States. When they came to COTA several years ago I was in the paddock and I spoke with a lot of Aussies in the grandstands. Near as I can tell, they're Southern Hemispheres Texans. Fantastic people, HARD racers and absolute gentlemen in the pits that aren't beyond playing practical jokes on each other when they're not "in the office".
Shane is an intelligent, highly skilled and humble driver. He has a great record of finishing a race, you can’t win if you don’t finish. He is one of the best in the wet.
Shane van Gisbergen is a rare talent. He’s a ‘student of the game’ so to speak. He doesn’t just do V8 Supercars, in his time off he competes in drifting, GT racing, even rallying. You can’t keep him out of a racing car. In that sense he reminds me of Stirling Moss (from the golden age of European motorsport) who drove everything in every category. If anyone can switch categories and be immediately successful, it’s Shane. Btw I’m a kiwi fan from New Zealand 🇳🇿
Going from racing right-hand drive cars to left hand cars and back again which is what Shane will be doing this weekend. The dude is a Rockstar in a racecar.
Dale Jnr your commentary was spot on. I have followed Aussie Touring cars for over 60 years. I have been to Daytona to see your father win a Daytona400. What Chicago did was generate millions of fans to watch another discipline of motorsport. Shane was very respectful of NASCAR and supported his V8 brothers. Both disciplines are fantastic. All the drivers have great skills and they have my respect. I think Chicago was great for both NASCAR and V8 Supercar. The fan base will widen and I thoroughly enjoy your commentary.
Whats been missed here is Shane’s ability to manage the tyre. He does it in Supercars incredibly well and used that to savage everyone in the closing laps of Chicago.
Dale, and co, if you read the comments, this is one of your best podcasts ever (And I watch a lot of them). Get Paul Morris and Russell Ingall on the show. Maybe Jamie Whincup and Roland Dane. And motivate them to get Supercars to "permit" any Nascar guys over here.
Fact is, you put a guy against guys he's never raced with, in cars he's never driven, OK, close but not exactly the same, but I don't care how similar the cars are, you still have a group of people you've never raced with, some differences in the cars, a lot to get used to, a decent driver, a good driver, an average driver, is not going to win, not likely to finish top 10, maybe 15. He's great, he did something many of us will never likely see in our lifetime. Yes, the track was the great equalizer but you need to give the guy a ton of credit, and the team. That is truly impressive. He was still at a disadvantage just in having never raced with those guys before and them all racing with each other week in and week out.
SVG is the best driver Supercars has to offer. Those guys run street circuits like that almost every week in that series. Ofcourse what he did was incredibly impressive but he looked right at home on that track. These next gen cars are purpose built to run on road courses unlike the old cars.
As an Aussie I appreciated the candidness and generosity of Shane's opponents. It really shows great character and sportsmanship. Respect to them. This will just help to make the local lads lift their game, which is a great injection of loyalty for the fans in both Australia and the US. Your Chicago road-race format made for such exciting viewing. I look forward to watching more US battles in our great motor-sport.
You could see SVG was diving slightly different lines than most. Off the ovals, racing is a different beast. Also, V8 supercars run in some abysmal weather and he is better than most in the wet. Every thing fell into place for him.
@@kevinjr101 And that's why he drove away at the end, he could have stretched his lead even further but he didn't need to, he's that good.... That switchback move about 3 laps from the end is a signature move, he pushed the other car to go deeper and got him on the switch, it allows him a faster exit speed than the guy he's just passed and now due to the small gap, no slipstreaming to worry about, so he can now make a gap and ease off and bring it home....
@@RW-zh7kl Nah he had fresher tires then the front runners, So he had more grip at the end. Great performance from SVG and the crew timing those pitstops.
Having watched the Australian series years ago, they are a rough bunch once th ey're door to door. So no surprise they do well with these guys. The Mark's team was certainly up tp the task. Congrats to both.
I don’t think the level of aggression is as high in Supercars and NASCAR. Much more competitive, lots of guys trying to get to the top. Australia is a country of 26million people, America is 330m plus.
I have watched the Bathurst 1000, well, most of it and it is insane. Watching Whincup and Ambrose back in the day on those road courses, like you said, racing with respect, yet pushing it too the limit. I would love to see a NASCAR Driver get licensed to run one of their events. Perhaps, Kyle Larson, but, you have to be in shape physically and mentally to drive the V8 SuperCar.
It's a 600 mile sprint race up and down a treacherous mountain road reaching up to 200mph... its pure heaven... we Aussies love it more than Vegemite... well almost
SVG wasn’t bagging nascar or its drivers with his comment he’s saying that he wasn’t special not that he and his fellow supercar drivers could have done what he did not that supercar drivers were better than nascar drivers, you listen to enough interviews with SVG and you can hear how humble he can be. Hell he stopped his car mid race to help a driver out of their rolled car, he was interviewed in New Zealand and was asked why he was being so dominant in the championship and he straight up said “because Scott Mclaughlin left for indy” he knew his greatest threat had left and left the gate open for him to dominate and literally told it how it was. A great ambassador for Supercars and New Zealand
As someone who follows V8 Supercars and sports car racing in general rather than NASCAR, it did not surprise me one bit that SVG parachuted in and walked away with a trophy. It would likely be a different story on an oval track, but anywhere there are left *and* right turns involved, I'd expect SVG to be at the front.
100% agree with you, I knew when he took the lead that it was over, V8 supercar drivers push their those cars so freakin' hard it's amazing, he just knew how to make the car do what he needed it to do no matter what, hats off to SVG
I thought the whole thing was just an amazing spectacle. Hence after NASCAR for letting an international driver come in and race in the first place. I reckon they would’ve got a lot of eyeballs on that race all around the world because of SVG coming in.
On a street course, absolutely. This was a super car race more than a cup race. But at Sonoma, or Watkins Glen, where cup guys are regulars at, very unlikely he wins. The cup drivers gained about a second or two over the course of that race, and got better. On an oval? He gets smoked. People need to realize that not only did SVG have a winning car, not only were the gen 7 cars modeled after the V8 super card, but he was also the only driver with expeirence. It would have been a bad look if he didn't win. Because it was his wheel house. I'd bet money this doesn't happen on any track the cup guys have already been to. Road courses alike.
@@SirMan48 so you are saying SVG who has never raced on that course before shouldwin because the other drivers have never raced on that course before! Numerous drivers have had good finishes in street races before.
Dale, I must congratulate you, what a great perspective on NASCAR and support for the advances being made by some in the sport, I loved your straight shooting and honesty during this interview/talkback, as a Kiwi we are proud of SVG and his race craft, with out the support from his family and the Stone Bros from the early beginnings he would not have made it this far if he in fact did not have this skill and determination to delivery great results for the team no matter who they are. Go the Gizz.
From the outside it looks like trackhouse has some of the best company culture I've seen. Everyone looks like they are on board with each other, they are having fun, they have real relationships with each other beyond that of being coworkers. They got something going on over there that is unique.
Even on iRacing Mt Panorama (Bathurst) is an extremely difficult track to race competitively on! my hats off to anyone who does and can do it, as those who can are true Aliens in my book!
I can only do half a dozen laps on my mates racing sim rig using H pattern box and heel toeing. It's a tough track. Also SVG would know as soon as they knew they were going to have to finish early would made sure he had fresh rubber.
I remember back in the old XBOX days the V8 supercars race driver game, (TOCA) in the UK, going down The Dipper too fast would invariably result in cartwheeling the car, hardest part of the track for sure.
What an impressive man is Dale Jnr, you the interviewer tried to get him to criticise the Kiwi and he would not. As an Aussie I reckon that the top 20 US drivers would be competitive over here. I sometimes shudder watching you guys drafting each other at 300 kilometres an hour!
You're the first Aussie or Kiwi commenter who seems to understand the amazing skill it takes to slide a car at 150+ mph on the intermediate ovals. And the NASCAR drivers do it lap after lap. It's a different skill set but there's no question that a V8 Supercars driver can adapt. Cheers.
Australian here saying hello. Things get heated at times of course but the good humour of US racing drivers has always impressed me. It's always felt like they know they're living a dream and are speaking publicly to people who love racing and chose to do it and watch it in their precious spare time. It sounds like a few cogs are turning rather quickly in the US right now. I hope that results in more Americans out here running cars in our racing. You're all welcome, so long as you leave your beer at home.
That move that Haley pulled off to retake the lead on the last lap is the sort of aggression we need to see more of on NASCAR road courses, it may not have worked that time but on a similar set of tires it might have been a different story
Congrats to you guys and your channel, from the guy who actually created the business plan and tech set up for what became V8 SUPERCARS in Oz in the early 1990's. Actually, while I was putting together the rules and regs, as well as how the parity within the category was going to be policed, I happened to be in the US ( marketing an electrical item I designed primarily for the marine market, funnily enough ) and while staying with a Kiwi ( ex part time racer ) friend of mine who, at the time was working for Bobby Rahal's ( Miller Brewing ) Indycar team, in Indianapolis, he organized for me to meet the Indianapolis circuit PR manager, and as luck had it, as well as being given an opportunity to race, well, more like drive a 'boat' of a two door caddy, at speed, around the circuit, I was granted an opportunity to meet with some of the heads of NASCAR, as they were turning up at the circuit the very next day ... investigating if NASCARs could actually race on the Indy track. Hopefully you guys will recall that time. Well, my point being, I was able to learn much from the NASCAR team, and their graciousness in offering me some very sage advice and ideas, very much assisted me in creating the basis for what became V8 SUPERCARS. Also, right from the start, it was always my intention to have a great deal of 'cross-pollenization' ... once a year, the two top NASCAR drivers would race at our BATHURST and once a year our two top V8 SUPERCAR drivers would compete in a DAYTONA 500, or the like. Unfortunately I was unsuccessful in achieving this, but, now that the racing public has had a renewed experience as to how competitive our 'down under' drivers are, maybe, my 1990's plan could be resurrected ... what do you guys think? As for SVGs performance, YES, you're right, our V8 SUPERCARS are very similar to your NASCARs ... that was my original intention, but I'd also like to highlight a couple of other things ... SVG IS A DAMN GOOD DRIVER. But more than that, he is one of those drivers that can pretty much drive, then master, any type of car ... he's just a 'freak'. But, another reason SVG , well, not quite dominated, but won, was that ALL our ( V8 SUPERCAR ) races are on road courses, or street courses ... that is our specialty. I have no doubt that if your NASCAR drivers put a few thousand racing miles in the rear view mirrors, they would be a lot better at that style of racing. I'd still love to complete my ( 1990s ) mission and have more of your drivers come to race in Oz, as would our drivers benefit from racing in the States. Maybe you could let me know if my idea sounds interesting to you guys, and the racing public. I'd love to hear the general opinion of you guys and your subs. Peter M from Oz.
Sounds like you have led an entertaining life. Question if you do not mind, how do you go from inventing a widget, and then making it reality and getting it to market? Your electrical product, what is the story regarding that? Cheers
When will these Nascar guys just realize that SVG was playing the game he always plays ... He made the whole field look average ... If he goes to Nascar full time he'll shake the whole series up ... He's elite as a driver with a very high Racing IQ ... Just go see what he's accomplished in multiple motor sport events ... WRC rally event came 3RD in his first attempt ... Speedway sprint cars ... Rally cross ... Moto cross bikes ... International Drift series ... World track speed records ... Won New Zealand Single seater GP starting from pit lane in his first attempt ... The list goes on and on and Won most of them ... He's the most versatile Race Driver on the Planet that can drive anything and Win ... Its all on TH-cam ... There is not 1 driver in that Nascar field that even comes close to being in the same league as Shane when it comes to driving talent ... For some it's hard to accept but he's just that good ... Hope that helps People realize how and why he basically destroyed that Nascar field on Sunday 🇳🇿
@nosoyallowed828 He actually led his race the whole way, when you guys understand this , you'll get better, he's a master strategist. That switchback move for the race lead is something the Aussie drivers do well, it gives an advantage in cornering speed for the overtake too, that's why he was able to establish that lead, he could have driven away but he didn't need too, he just got the gap and drove it home, just like he does down under.........
A great racer will succeed no matter what he's driving or where he is driving it. In his own words, Shane said this was his bread and butter and the situation would be reversed if it were an oval. I agree, but I will say Great racers adapt and adjust. Shane could do well with practice on an Oval, just as Kyle can on a street course, but would have a learning curve his first time out.
I saw some analysis saying that SVG's experience on street circuits meant that he was able to open out the corners by being much closer to the walls before turning in and straightening out than the regular NASCAR drivers. Guy said he was regularly only about 3in clear, and that was where he made the most gains on the competition.
I have followed SVG's career since his inception in the V8 Supercar Series and he is a very humble person. There is no way he would ever say the NASCAR guys are terrible drivers. He will always show nothing but respect for his fellow racers. He has even said street courses is his thing, and if he were to race at Daytona or Talledega the others guys would wipe the floor with him. That's his respect and humility to the NASCAR guys.
he's only saying that, kiwis are just humble ppl... Oval Racing would be right up his Alley, he was the most aggressive, drongo around when he started with Ford, the Stone Brothers,
Dale Jr is right, if any of those cup drivers drove around Bathurst they would see why svg was so comfortable with the walls, plus his rain and street racing experience, plus he had nothing to lose which is why he went "full send on some drivers" but I'm still a proud kiwi
Well said, I’m from Aus and I’ve only ever watched 1 nascar race which was the race with Kimi Räikkönen, this will be my 2nd race and I’m sure attracting new audiences is also a key goal.
Gis would never say that. He showed complete respect and got respect back for his achievement. He has 15 years and 3 Supercar championships plus racing in other categories in his kitbag. That was his advantage in Chicago. But remember, he was only a couple of seconds ahead of plenty of US drivers. He said in the post race interviews that he would come last on an oval track. But Nascar has just shown the degree of extra interest it attracts, specially from overseas audiences, by having international drivers in their racing. It also shows that you will have to be good at oval, road course and street racing to win a championship in the future. The days of the Good Ole Boys winning is probably over.
I'm an Australian and love V8 supercars race but I also love American racing too... and the end of the day we are all united in racing... there's no better or worst in this sport, but its good to see how Australia and America enbrace one another....❤
As an Australian nothing could make me happier than if NASCAR could have a Cup Race at Bathurst. Americans need to see and race this racetrack for themselves.
It's weird how very few US drivers have ever had any kind of success at Aussie touring car racing, or at Bathurst either during the regular season or in the 24 hour races.
Without even watching, here it is: SVG won the race (and stayed out of the walls) with heel-toe right foot driving and rev matching the downshifts while using his clutch, *to keep his rear tires from locking up on corner entry* , rather than simply slamming that inline sequential shifter forward as fast and as many times as it could go, while hammering the brakes coming into corner like the other drivers (ie. Bubba Wallace ?).....
Compare the two drivers running in second place behind Haley during the last laps, one was so focused on getting to his bumper to spin him to win that he ran head first into the wall, the other who definitely didn’t want to be the foreigner to wreck the leader didn’t force the pass, even backed out, then executed cleanly for the win.
Let’s remember he’s sitting on the opposite side of the car, shifting with his opposite hand, used to a very different type of aero, locked diff etc. I’d love to see a NASCAR driver come over to Australia and try, it would be an interesting challenge.
Also have to remember that SVG has thousands of hours of experience in street/circuit tracks over the other drivers... That's a much bigger factor than any of the car differences. A NASCAR driver racing in V8 Supercars would do about as well as a Supercar driver in an oval lol. Yes very fun to see tho!
'The Giz' said the biggest difference between the V8 Supercar and NASCAR is the amount of downforce generated by the underfloor in the NASCAR, he said the cars are glued to the track compared to Supercars. The coverage is something that needs fixing. A driver moves from 18th to 1st and we only see him when he arrived in 3rd place? Where's the story of his drive through half the field?
Exactly as Dale put it. The Supercar drivers are experienced street car racers so not surprised SVG did so well. Nascar needs to further embrace the street circuit approach, it will strengthen Nascars future both in US and internationally, bring it on! Also as an Aussie bring the Nascar drivers to Supercars ... awesome prospect.
I was impressed with SVG's clean passing. When Austin Dillion was in 2nd place, you could see all he was trying to do was get to 31's bumper so Dillion could spin him out.
Agreed 100%. SVG never used the bumper. The last few laps he was 1.5 seconds faster than the 2nd and 3rd place cars. He was reported to be braking 100 deeper into every corner. The man has some serious talent. I agree with Dale Dr. that at Watkins Glen where the Cup guys have experience, he'd have to work harder, but he could absolutely still get it done. True the Cup guys had zero experience at the Chicago Street Course, but let's be fair, neither did SVG!
Danged old Junior has become like the Eric Severeid of NASCAR. The second SVG won I was looking forward to the Dirty Mo take on what happened. Damn man, that was like CBS Sunday Morning stuff. Thanks man.
Mclaughlin can win Nascar too....he was usually in front of SVG...fantastic Kiwis battling for an Aussie crown. Don't forget SVG was on the wrong side of the car..we sit on the right hand side
scotty was only dominating coz of penske money... look where that team is now penskes money is gone!... that and parity of the cars....dont get me wrong...scotty is an AWESOME driver.. him and SVG have pushed each other their entire career until scotty left for indy...
I hate saying this but they made supercars better it is not an Aussie series its an AusNZ series. They are so good cause them sheep are sure hard to catch🤣🤣🤣
Lovely humble interview much respect to DEJr from NZ racing fans. Love Nascar. Surprising that V8 Supercar series is not widely know about or watched in the US. SVG is a champion driver and a top bloke. Thing that sets him apart is he is fearless behind the wheel. His aggressive racing style is what sets him apart. Sometimes it works sometimes it doesn't. If it doesn't he gets beaten by a better overall and more technical driver ie Scott McLaughlin. Looking forward to see him race oval tracks.
All the nascar drivers would learn a shitload by coming over to australia and training with Paul morris and russell ingall at norwell motor plex,that place is a pure talent factory.Not every teacher can teach everybody but they have a knack of training and implementing skills like no other.....
Thanks for the kind words Jr , as a kiwi and a V8s fan . Your description of the mountain was perfect . Reality is , just like you Americans we like our racing hard .
He should. It was in a race winning car, in a car designed based off of the cars he race, on a track type he's ridiculously experienced in, when the cup guys never have been there. It's a testament to the cup guys that he didn't win by 10 seconds. He wasn't going to do this at Watkins Glen, Sonoma, etc
@@SirMan48 Respectfully, I beg to differ. Watkins Glen is a road course that SVG would eat up. Most Supercar drivers would be faster than most would expect. Ovals are a different kettle. It would take a little longer...
You nailed it in regards to the level playing field, we weren't super shocked at the result here in Aus. You could even say Shane actually had an advantage given his experience with street circuits and the cars being so similar. I think in that trim the cup car had a bit over 500hp which would of been a little more manageable than a supercar on that track which only has one engine spec of a bit over 600hp. None of us think Nascar drivers aren't good drivers or even that Shane is a god amongst men or anything. My first reaction was "Let's see him in an oval race before we got to excited"
The last 2 races trackhouse put a lot into it because they know big teams skip them 2 races and not put a lit into them. They focus on the places they are going bace to in Playoffs. Justin Marks circled both races ion their calendar
Jr has economical interest in nascar so he will never criticise anything nascar. That’s why it was fresh to get objectivity from Chase and Kyle. First SVG was driving on the opposite side of the road. The Aero and downforce is different in both series . He had far less sim time than the cup guys where they have driven the Chicago street course for over 2 years. He just give them an ass whooping plain and simple. He was 1.2s a lap faster and passed the most cars that’s embarrassing for the cup guys.
I'm pretty sure they were saying that the simulator was wrong about the difficulty of some of the corners and things like that, so you can't just call the simulator access a straight up advantage. edit: if anything, it was probably an advantage for him that the simulator everyone else had been using for months (that he only used a few times) was wrong. the other drivers with almost no street race experience had to trust the sim to teach them about the track, and that's one of their biggest tools. SVG had much less time in the sim and so didn't have as many concrete expectations of the track, so the differences wouldn't have been as unexpected to him as to the other drivers. to add on to that, they don't use sims in supercars, so he's used to learning tracks by driving them, in a way the other drivers weren't. another advantage to him. yes, he gave them an ass-whooping, but I don't think the cup drivers should be embarrassed by it. the only advantage they really had over him was familiarity with the car and the way nascar works (spotters, pit stops etc). and he's driven in a lot of different racing series so that's barely an advantage at all, because he's used to being unfamiliar with what he's driving. if it had been a regular track they'd all driven before and he hadn't, then yes they should be embarrassed. if it had been an oval, they should be really fucking embarrassed. but it was neither of those things.
He has had more experience on road circuits than any Nascar driver. He just drove it like he drives his V8SC. Being from Australia and watching V8SC he is a master of looking after his tyres. And when he came up upon another driver I knew what was going to happen.
Very disappointed in Chase Elliot’s comment. He could have just said congrats to a great driver and moved on. He chose to be the hurt feelings guy and “sound” like a spoiled kid. Watching the race I could tell that SVG had a great chance to winning by three things. 1, he wisely chose to stay in third and let the two guys in front of him fight each other early in the race. 2, He let loose his real ability late in the race and moved through the entire field (That’s Hollywood Movie stuff folks) and 3, His use of the clutch pedal which none of the comments about it during the race really identified and, that is I believe he was using the clutch to his advantage to help kick the car around corners and be just a little faster than everyone else. And whether he tweaked the car or not before the race, let’s give Trackhouse the credit for giving him a great car that endured and allowed his driving skills to shine through.
It is great to have hindsight.............They ALL ventured into the unknown on lap-1,turn-1 [on a wet track] ALL the drivers need to be congratulated for a job well done.
To play devil's advocate here a little bit, after SVG's Chicago win, can I now legitimately call BS evertime I hear announcers say the Cup drivers are "the best stock car drivers in the world"......
They are some of the best in the world, it doesn't mean another driver from another racing series can't beat them. Tom Brady lost many games and super bowls, doesn't mean he wasn't the best QB to ever play. Your logic is flawed!!
@@robertryan7204 oooook, so what is your point 🤣🤣 F1 drivers are good at F1, Indy car drivers are good at Indy. A street course has and had the potential for an outlier to win, it doesn't mean Nascar drivers are not some of the best in the world, they are some of the best race car drivers in the world! I will definitely admit that a few drivers get there through money and name(Ty Gibbs) just to name 1. Although he is still a damn good driver!
I am loving this level of analysis of what SVG did, and not wanting to just hate. this will only make NASCAR more exciting!!! I also hope the US drivers come to Australia and drive the V8 Supercar series.... love the show guys.... love from down under
G'day mate thanks for your words your a gentleman..i can't help but think Shane may get bored going in circles,,I have watched nascar and we had our own here as oz car and I appreciate the efforts of ball racing.. and torture, both physically and mentally and the training must be so bloody hard to handle ,,cheers to them all
As an Australian I am impressed at the respect and positive comments offered for Gizzy by the NASCAR fraternity in the U.S. Real gentlemen racers and good sportsmanship is a major part of the sport for me. Cheers from Oz.
I think their fan base is better also. Don't see so much hate towards the drivers when they win or don't win.
Americans like to see people do well and succeed. They don't have the 'Tall Poppy Syndrome' issue we have in Australia where people are negative towards people who standout from the crowd and do well. We ridicule American society, but they absolutely do many things very right.
As a New Zealander, SVG is always being bashed by the Australian media for their lack of respect for his talent, perhaps now they can see the true skill he has. So much respect shown in the US for SVG, gentlemen do exist.
Aussies once again taking credit for New Zealand’s achievements…
@@juliantangney5017 Read it again, I said that I'm an Aussie, not Gizzy although he has done most of his racing here.
Going from right hand drive to a left hand drive car and winning is more than impressive.
He's driven left hand drive cars before another racing series and traveling to different countries. Right hand drive countries are minority
@@johnh3476still no where near as much as cup guys
living here in Thailand where they drive on the left had side, its not much more difficult than right hand side driving.....you just have to remember how you approach and or turn on the cornering that is really the only difference!
@@johnh3476
That's bs I have a weekend LHD 30 yrs, an it's still a prick
Not only driving from the opposite side but your shifting with left hand normally
I really wish one of the networks would pick up the super car series and show it here in the states. Do your magic Dale, make it happen.
They already have a paid streaming service for the US called Supercars Superview, easier than waiting on a TV network to pick up rights.
Unfortunately streaming won't do it. You need to put the series in front of eyeballs before people even know it is there. You don't get that until it's on a major network.
I believe that the Americans would certainly get it. We've had all these other cars in Australia which most Americans have no idea about which really were the genesis of the format we have today, but the racing is world class. It really is 'Circuit & Street NASCAR' now, mainly as we do not have the history or culture that spawned the oval tracks.
While we on the outside of the US have always seen audiences there to be very parochial and only really caring about their own series, there seems to have been a shift in the last 12 months or so. F1 coming to LV, the Le Mans experiment which seems to have captured the attention in the US, and now SVG winning bringing attention to Supercars. And I have to say to my American friends, I am impressed with all you guys for taking a wider international view.
I dream of the day where we can have Supercars running a couple of races per year in the US and we get to see the NASCAR guys down here. Even having a half/half field with some additional parity rule changes to get them even closer, and then let 10-13 of each category on the track together. That would be epic.
@@MonstaAU you've got this all backwards and I'll explain why. In 2014 Supercars was all set to expand internationally and wanted a US race to show off the series.
Turns out that the series can't add international drivers and races without the national sanctioning body losing the rights to control the series.
This is because Supercars falls under the jurisdiction of the FIA for the rules package they use, but because the series limits itself to Australia and New Zealand, the Australian sanctioning body CAMS keeps control of the series, including broadcasting rights.
The series doesn't have to sell broadcast rights outside of Australia, they're doing just fine for themselves.
They offer Superview as a service to make up for the lack of international broadcast rights and no overseas races.
You're under the impression that they need US TV to be relevant, when they're already relevant to anyone that pays attention to racing outside of the NASCAR bubble.
@@HumbertoSaabedra I know a few years back CBS Sports Network did a 2-hour highlights package of the weekend the week or two after an event.
It's not even on free tv in Australia, it is on pay tv mostly with a couple races on free tv. They lost lots of fans when that happened
Dale Jr. is such a great ambassador for motorsport in general
Great ambassador for quite a number of things. .
Really impressed with Dale’s response. So respectful and mature. Legend.
I've been missing Benny Parsons for a very long time -- I think Junior is already Benny's equal, and just might become known as the best voice and the best representative of NASCAR.
The level of commitment the SuperCar drivers exhibit at Bathurst is incredible. Heavy cars, relatively narrow tires, big horsepower, high speed, blind corners, elevation change, etc. equals big time show of skill.
Very true, and you have to have a laugh to think Peter Brock would sometimes have his arm rested on the door carving laps around Bathurst.
@@paulreichelt1259 Brock was born for Mount Panorama. I don't see his record being beaten anytime soon.
Bathurst puts to test pretty much every skill a driver has. Amazing track.
In the world, only Spa can be called ebtter IMO, and that's because Spa has Eau Rouge being the difference maker in it's favor
The Bathurst race is the one of the greatest road races in the world....6 hours of madness
Having walked the Bathurst track, it's mind blowing how steep the track is in places, hard to walk up the hills, how blind a lot of the corners are.
It's a track that requires incredible skill and commitment, and SVG is quite at home there.
Great interview Dale. I can tell you, though that anybody in Australia who knows racing does not look down on the American NASCAR drivers after that race. We know how tough and competitive it is in that series, and it’s just that SVG is a pretty phenomenal racing driver. I appreciate your comments because you are open-minded and I also appreciate the words from Kyle Larson who just wanted to learn what SVG was doing so he could get better. For me, that shows why you guys are champions.
100% agreed , I think it's safe to say there is a deep mutual respect between most of the drivers of each category.
Shane has an ability to learn and adapt to a new car very quickly. Add to that , the similarities of the cars and the street circuit , I think most Aussie supercars fans knew this was a very likely outcome.
Put him on an oval and it would be a different story but still a challenge that he would take on with total commitment and all of his ability.
Just the hardcore confederate NASCAR fans we look down on lol
Absolutely, for the first real run in wet and changing conditions the NASCAR drivers did magnificently.
NASCAR is non stop learning curve, do you go high or low on oval circuit lap. There is a certain groove after numerous laps, but always ear full advice from non racing team members.
you guys should interview Shane van gisbergen himself
A small fact that everyone has missed is that just a week earlier, SVG walked into a (new to him) team, borrowed a few mechanics, and tweaked their work experience car, that was previously set up for a completely different race and driver, into a race winner. We can argue about how much better as a driver he may have been on race day, but considering what he achieved with the car in just that single week preceding is exceptional.
Don't forget they used all the top self parts, setups and knowledge from their other teams to do this. They were "not afraid to push every limit and corner they could push or cut".. Justin, being a very clean and smooth driver two win or so being his only real competition that day says pretty much everything !! While both are great people and did a great job
As an American NASCAR fan who has made the pilgrimage over for The Great Race, those top Supercars guys are absolute gun drivers.
its a great pilgrimage. It really is a great race.
Wow! Salutations to you good sir 🫡
as a brazilian follower of both series, I hope that I can watch The Great Race someday. It's #1 or #1-A (with Spa) in my scale of most incredible laps in the world.
Mount Panorama has it all. Wish I could have saw the years of Ford-Holden battle, and the international years also with Nissan, Mercedes and Volvo recently.
If you remembered it, you weren't really there!!! 😂 Lol
@@suziederkins3310 we got annihilated with a great group of bogan lads on Shootout Saturday 😅
Supercars’ intensity is unmatched. Their ability to just be on the edge of destruction lap after lap is insane. It’s borderline dangerous.
yeah
but it's fun to watch the mad buggers having fun
More like sometimes borderline safe
Incredibly well said...
Talledega 200 mph lap after lap is on the edge of insanity.
@@jimbob8969 the difference is when they're not running in a pack ... Lower talent drivers can drive a car full throttle at Dega when not in a pack. Try driving a V8 car on a street course on the ragged edge with a lower talented driver and compare lap times.
Holy crap....after hearing Dale talk about Bathurst, I went on a little rabbit hole. And again, holy crap. That track looks absolutely wild and fun to watch. But bat sh*t crazy at the same time!!
on tv it also doesn't really give you idea how steep it really is.
It's our nation's day to stop and watch a car race... even people who don't like motorsports know about Bathurst and its history
Welcome to Australia's premier motorsport race.....
Now go down the Peter Brock rabbit hole.
@@justincanny1571 it's a smooth climb, at least on tv. Pit straight is the lowest part, from there on it's going uphill until McPhillamy.
And down from Skyline
You always learn more from a loss than a win. If you’re honest. SVG taught guys a few things and the nascar guys will get better because of it.
all the ones who complained about the new car being difficult to drive..... they just saw that practice with a car with a transaxle and independent suspension makes it where you are a better driver. Like KFB said, the V8 Supercar guys have been driving this style of car for years, and they have been racing on street courses the entire time. That is why they are ahead. as kyle larson said: we all have room for improvement. and, no it is not the car, the drivers can get better at their craft. Look at Tyler Reddick and even Ty Gibbs, this is the only CUP car they know. they are good at it out of the box, nothing to unlearn. and, yes, the fans need to get with the program, too. no more whining about lug nuts!
I think it has way more to do with the first ever street course for nascar than him being that much better. If this were at any of the regular nascar tracks he would have been mid to back of the field finish
@@smudent2010id like to see how he’d finish on an oval track against the cup guys
He'd do well there too, you need to look at his performance in his WRC outing last year
It's obvious that he has ruffled a few feathers, and you septics are pissed off that he did so well... which everybody else who knew of him realised he would.
I'll say it again.... SVG is the BEST closed wheel formula(s) driver in the world at this moment in time.
@@smudent2010 You don't know Shane like we know Shane, He ran in the WRC (World Rally Comp) for the first time ever last yr and got a podium, He won the NZ Grand Prix in an open wheeler, He has won races on the dirt in Sprint Cars in his first attempt at the sport. This Guy lives for racing, it's all he does. Given 5-6 races on an oval, he would be a top runner. Look how fellow New Zealander Scotty Mac adapted to Indy Car in a short time. Racing V8 Supercars on the tracks they race on results in drivers having overall better racing skills.
new aussie nascar fan here, it was an epic race.
Looking forward to next week’s Cup Series race this upcoming Sunday?
@@bighand1530don't push the issue
@@bighand1530I am. I’m keen to see how Kyle Larson goes. He impressed me with his comments after the race so I’m keen to see how he does the rest of the season.
So you are suddenly an oval racing fan after seeing a street race ???
Just wait till it's 4 hours of doing circles. Sorry, ovals. Zzzzzz. Spot of rain and they postpone a race.
It's probably the least exciting motorsport.
Actually, I'll challenge you to name a motorsport more boring.
heel/toe, apexes, turns to the right waaaay more too....Plus, prior to V8 Supercar's redesign, aka back in the Holden days with the 4 door sedans, they were much closer to STOCK cars than Nascar ever has been in Decades. Kudos to Dale mentioning Mt. Panorama's race track.
The tight twisty's on the Downhill side are the treacherous corners on that track as well!.....
IMHO master getting those in traffic smoothly and you can drive anything anywhere!.......
Don't panic Yank's, Shane is an awesome talent in many different forms of motor sports. He is brilliant in the wet, and has massive street circuit experience. He's not put off by the concrete barriers. Your boy's will have learnt a lot from this race.
Good stuff Gissy...
@@donkeys762 wasn't Gissy a factory McLaren GT3 driver at one point?
@@djmohab2 drove for the factory Mclaren gt3, won the bathurst 12 hour in it. but never a Full Factory driver - just a guest
@@djmohab2 Not sure bloke, pretty sure with out doing research. That he has driven McLarens in the Bathurst 12hr events before...
McLaughlin came to IndyCar and won almost immediately. The top drivers in that series are just very very good.
Drivers outside of NASCAR could not handle the old heavy cars with small brakes and high horsepower, that is why NASCAR dumbdown the new car, put big brakes and wide tires and lighten the car so outside drivers could come here and win
He got 2nd on his first oval race in Indycar at Texas to fellow New Zealander Scott Dixon
Haha 😂 come on now
@@speediepitstop1531 Except Marcos who won at Watkins Glen
100%. V8 super cars is an elite race series. Scott and MVG are excellent ambassadors.
It was the perfect storm; first cup series street course race in history, inclement weather, and SVG was in great equipment. It was awesome to witness it as it unfolded. NASCAR definitely hit lightning in a bottle.
Yep. Still havent stop smilin. Especially afta watchin the incar footage from 2hrs in until the end. Hecshowcases his amazing skill for all t see right there.🇳🇿🤘
Yep, everything Dale said. I've watched V8 Supercars for years here in the States. When they came to COTA several years ago I was in the paddock and I spoke with a lot of Aussies in the grandstands. Near as I can tell, they're Southern Hemispheres Texans. Fantastic people, HARD racers and absolute gentlemen in the pits that aren't beyond playing practical jokes on each other when they're not "in the office".
Shane is an intelligent, highly skilled and humble driver. He has a great record of finishing a race, you can’t win if you don’t finish. He is one of the best in the wet.
"To finish first, you must first finish"
Dale Jr's knowledge & respect for Aussie racing is impressive. 🍻
Shane van Gisbergen is a rare talent. He’s a ‘student of the game’ so to speak. He doesn’t just do V8 Supercars, in his time off he competes in drifting, GT racing, even rallying. You can’t keep him out of a racing car. In that sense he reminds me of Stirling Moss (from the golden age of European motorsport) who drove everything in every category. If anyone can switch categories and be immediately successful, it’s Shane. Btw I’m a kiwi fan from New Zealand 🇳🇿
Going from racing right-hand drive cars to left hand cars and back again which is what Shane will be doing this weekend. The dude is a Rockstar in a racecar.
Dale Jnr your commentary was spot on. I have followed Aussie Touring cars for over 60 years. I have been to Daytona to see your father win a Daytona400. What Chicago did was generate millions of fans to watch another discipline of motorsport. Shane was very respectful of NASCAR and supported his V8 brothers. Both disciplines are fantastic. All the drivers have great skills and they have my respect. I think Chicago was great for both NASCAR and V8 Supercar. The fan base will widen and I thoroughly enjoy your commentary.
Thank you for recognising Bathurst as being the best race in the world. We've known it for a while and it needs the recognition it deserves.
Bathurst and Indy 500 are the greatest races in the world imo
Whats been missed here is Shane’s ability to manage the tyre. He does it in Supercars incredibly well and used that to savage everyone in the closing laps of Chicago.
Dale, and co, if you read the comments, this is one of your best podcasts ever (And I watch a lot of them). Get Paul Morris and Russell Ingall on the show. Maybe Jamie Whincup and Roland Dane. And motivate them to get Supercars to "permit" any Nascar guys over here.
Agree 100% Jr. I really liked the camera shot on his footwork by NBC. He came from 18th to the front. Very impressive!
Fact is, you put a guy against guys he's never raced with, in cars he's never driven, OK, close but not exactly the same, but I don't care how similar the cars are, you still have a group of people you've never raced with, some differences in the cars, a lot to get used to, a decent driver, a good driver, an average driver, is not going to win, not likely to finish top 10, maybe 15. He's great, he did something many of us will never likely see in our lifetime. Yes, the track was the great equalizer but you need to give the guy a ton of credit, and the team. That is truly impressive. He was still at a disadvantage just in having never raced with those guys before and them all racing with each other week in and week out.
Exactly Jenson button drove nascar couple thousand miles at lemans didn't do to good. Kami raikenen 2 times in 91 car got no better than 29 th
Yeah. people need to remember that SVG is a once in a generation talent. He can drive in anything.
SVG is the best driver Supercars has to offer. Those guys run street circuits like that almost every week in that series. Ofcourse what he did was incredibly impressive but he looked right at home on that track. These next gen cars are purpose built to run on road courses unlike the old cars.
As an Aussie I appreciated the candidness and generosity of Shane's opponents. It really shows great character and sportsmanship. Respect to them. This will just help to make the local lads lift their game, which is a great injection of loyalty for the fans in both Australia and the US. Your Chicago road-race format made for such exciting viewing. I look forward to watching more US battles in our great motor-sport.
Bathurst 1K is the BEST race on the planet.
by a country mile!
You could see SVG was diving slightly different lines than most. Off the ovals, racing is a different beast. Also, V8 supercars run in some abysmal weather and he is better than most in the wet. Every thing fell into place for him.
Yeah I noticed the same. He was going deeper on corner entry so he would have a straighter exit and could get the power down quicker.
@@kevinjr101 And that's why he drove away at the end, he could have stretched his lead even further but he didn't need to, he's that good.... That switchback move about 3 laps from the end is a signature move, he pushed the other car to go deeper and got him on the switch, it allows him a faster exit speed than the guy he's just passed and now due to the small gap, no slipstreaming to worry about, so he can now make a gap and ease off and bring it home....
I really think he saved some of his tires until the end, then went all out.
@@RW-zh7kl Nah he had fresher tires then the front runners, So he had more grip at the end.
Great performance from SVG and the crew timing those pitstops.
Having watched the Australian series years ago, they are a rough bunch once th ey're door to door. So no surprise they do well with these guys. The Mark's team was certainly up tp the task. Congrats to both.
I laughed when they said "SVG will see how agressive american drivers are" then he overtook the rest of the field and won
I don’t think the level of aggression is as high in Supercars and NASCAR.
Much more competitive, lots of guys trying to get to the top.
Australia is a country of 26million people, America is 330m plus.
The Bathurst 1000 is an incredible experience ❤
Bathurst is difficult to walk around [Racing speeds are more of a challenge] 😀
@@kerrymathers7439 you get in early and find a good camping spot for the weekend 😁
1000 km and 12 hours are best in Bathurst race experience
I have watched the Bathurst 1000, well, most of it and it is insane. Watching Whincup and Ambrose back in the day on those road courses, like you said, racing with respect, yet pushing it too the limit. I would love to see a NASCAR Driver get licensed to run one of their events. Perhaps, Kyle Larson, but, you have to be in shape physically and mentally to drive the V8 SuperCar.
It's a 600 mile sprint race up and down a treacherous mountain road reaching up to 200mph... its pure heaven... we Aussies love it more than Vegemite... well almost
You really need to attend the race to understand just how close they are to the edge at Bathurst...
It's fcuking insane.!
SVG wasn’t bagging nascar or its drivers with his comment he’s saying that he wasn’t special not that he and his fellow supercar drivers could have done what he did not that supercar drivers were better than nascar drivers, you listen to enough interviews with SVG and you can hear how humble he can be.
Hell he stopped his car mid race to help a driver out of their rolled car, he was interviewed in New Zealand and was asked why he was being so dominant in the championship and he straight up said “because Scott Mclaughlin left for indy” he knew his greatest threat had left and left the gate open for him to dominate and literally told it how it was.
A great ambassador for Supercars and New Zealand
As someone who follows V8 Supercars and sports car racing in general rather than NASCAR, it did not surprise me one bit that SVG parachuted in and walked away with a trophy. It would likely be a different story on an oval track, but anywhere there are left *and* right turns involved, I'd expect SVG to be at the front.
100% agree with you, I knew when he took the lead that it was over, V8 supercar drivers push their those cars so freakin' hard it's amazing, he just knew how to make the car do what he needed it to do no matter what, hats off to SVG
I thought the whole thing was just an amazing spectacle. Hence after NASCAR for letting an international driver come in and race in the first place. I reckon they would’ve got a lot of eyeballs on that race all around the world because of SVG coming in.
On a street course, absolutely. This was a super car race more than a cup race. But at Sonoma, or Watkins Glen, where cup guys are regulars at, very unlikely he wins. The cup drivers gained about a second or two over the course of that race, and got better.
On an oval? He gets smoked.
People need to realize that not only did SVG have a winning car, not only were the gen 7 cars modeled after the V8 super card, but he was also the only driver with expeirence. It would have been a bad look if he didn't win. Because it was his wheel house.
I'd bet money this doesn't happen on any track the cup guys have already been to. Road courses alike.
@@SirMan48 so you are saying SVG who has never raced on that course before shouldwin because the other drivers have never raced on that course before!
Numerous drivers have had good finishes in street races before.
Dale, I must congratulate you, what a great perspective on NASCAR and support for the advances being made by some in the sport, I loved your straight shooting and honesty during this interview/talkback, as a Kiwi we are proud of SVG and his race craft, with out the support from his family and the Stone Bros from the early beginnings he would not have made it this far if he in fact did not have this skill and determination to delivery great results for the team no matter who they are. Go the Gizz.
From the outside it looks like trackhouse has some of the best company culture I've seen. Everyone looks like they are on board with each other, they are having fun, they have real relationships with each other beyond that of being coworkers. They got something going on over there that is unique.
That's it aye, everyone on that team was having fun
Dale jr was full of respect in this vid. The guy understands why the world has elite levels of different types of racing. Good on ya mate
He’s one of the best tin top drivers in the world!! We claim him as an honorary Aussie 🇦🇺 🇳🇿
I claim Alex Volkanovski as an honorary Kiwi 😛 💪🇳🇿🇦🇺
Bloody Aussies typical
From an aussie. You put it beautifully. Love the respect. On the oval we would have no chance thats a different game!
Even on iRacing Mt Panorama (Bathurst) is an extremely difficult track to race competitively on!
my hats off to anyone who does and can do it, as those who can are true Aliens in my book!
I can only do half a dozen laps on my mates racing sim rig using H pattern box and heel toeing. It's a tough track.
Also SVG would know as soon as they knew they were going to have to finish early would made sure he had fresh rubber.
I remember back in the old XBOX days the V8 supercars race driver game, (TOCA) in the UK, going down The Dipper too fast would invariably result in cartwheeling the car, hardest part of the track for sure.
Thanks for answering that first question like that svg is very humble and has a lot of respect for everyone
What an impressive man is Dale Jnr, you the interviewer tried to get him to criticise the Kiwi and he would not. As an Aussie I reckon that the top 20 US drivers would be competitive over here. I sometimes shudder watching you guys drafting each other at 300 kilometres an hour!
You're the first Aussie or Kiwi commenter who seems to understand the amazing skill it takes to slide a car at 150+ mph on the intermediate ovals. And the NASCAR drivers do it lap after lap. It's a different skill set but there's no question that a V8 Supercars driver can adapt. Cheers.
Dale it's good to hear an honest appraisal of drives from both countries. I live in Bathurst the Mount is a public road.
Great for SVG, great for Trackhouse (Justin seems very smart) and great for NASCAR.
Australian here saying hello. Things get heated at times of course but the good humour of US racing drivers has always impressed me. It's always felt like they know they're living a dream and are speaking publicly to people who love racing and chose to do it and watch it in their precious spare time.
It sounds like a few cogs are turning rather quickly in the US right now. I hope that results in more Americans out here running cars in our racing. You're all welcome, so long as you leave your beer at home.
Justin Haley had one hell of a drive. SVG was in a league of his own and Haley kept him honest. I hope Kaulig keeps him
That move that Haley pulled off to retake the lead on the last lap is the sort of aggression we need to see more of on NASCAR road courses, it may not have worked that time but on a similar set of tires it might have been a different story
He got hella lucky that NASCAR announced the race distance being truncated mid pit-sequence. He was nowhere before that.
@@mclaggen6144 that sort of aggressive move has never been done to svg in supercars, what a move it was. Wish the guys in the supercars would do it
Haley truly ran well, he is the one that fought the most against SVG. It took a Schumacher-esque crossover to beat him
Didn’t svg have tires that were 16 laps fresher? Congrats on the win, but would he have won if they were all on equal tires?
Brave and proud is something Australia, New Zealand, and USA share as motorsport athletes. Keep up international competition and we all gain.
Congrats to you guys and your channel, from the guy who actually created the business plan and tech set up for what became V8 SUPERCARS in Oz in the early 1990's. Actually, while I was putting together the rules and regs, as well as how the parity within the category was going to be policed, I happened to be in the US ( marketing an electrical item I designed primarily for the marine market, funnily enough ) and while staying with a Kiwi ( ex part time racer ) friend of mine who, at the time was working for Bobby Rahal's ( Miller Brewing ) Indycar team, in Indianapolis, he organized for me to meet the Indianapolis circuit PR manager, and as luck had it, as well as being given an opportunity to race, well, more like drive a 'boat' of a two door caddy, at speed, around the circuit, I was granted an opportunity to meet with some of the heads of NASCAR, as they were turning up at the circuit the very next day ... investigating if NASCARs could actually race on the Indy track. Hopefully you guys will recall that time. Well, my point being, I was able to learn much from the NASCAR team, and their graciousness in offering me some very sage advice and ideas, very much assisted me in creating the basis for what became V8 SUPERCARS. Also, right from the start, it was always my intention to have a great deal of 'cross-pollenization' ... once a year, the two top NASCAR drivers would race at our BATHURST and once a year our two top V8 SUPERCAR drivers would compete in a DAYTONA 500, or the like. Unfortunately I was unsuccessful in achieving this, but, now that the racing public has had a renewed experience as to how competitive our 'down under' drivers are, maybe, my 1990's plan could be resurrected ... what do you guys think? As for SVGs performance, YES, you're right, our V8 SUPERCARS are very similar to your NASCARs ... that was my original intention, but I'd also like to highlight a couple of other things ... SVG IS A DAMN GOOD DRIVER. But more than that, he is one of those drivers that can pretty much drive, then master, any type of car ... he's just a 'freak'. But, another reason SVG , well, not quite dominated, but won, was that ALL our ( V8 SUPERCAR ) races are on road courses, or street courses ... that is our specialty. I have no doubt that if your NASCAR drivers put a few thousand racing miles in the rear view mirrors, they would be a lot better at that style of racing. I'd still love to complete my ( 1990s ) mission and have more of your drivers come to race in Oz, as would our drivers benefit from racing in the States. Maybe you could let me know if my idea sounds interesting to you guys, and the racing public. I'd love to hear the general opinion of you guys and your subs. Peter M from Oz.
Sounds like you have led an entertaining life. Question if you do not mind, how do you go from inventing a widget, and then making it reality and getting it to market? Your electrical product, what is the story regarding that? Cheers
Interesting take, thought out, well informed and very sensible. Hopefully we get to see him on a road course soon would be very interesting.
SVG put on a clinic, and it was epic for NASCAR.
@nosoyallowed828he led when he needed. You only need to lead the last lap
When will these Nascar guys just realize that SVG was playing the game he always plays ... He made the whole field look average ... If he goes to Nascar full time he'll shake the whole series up ... He's elite as a driver with a very high Racing IQ ... Just go see what he's accomplished in multiple motor sport events ... WRC rally event came 3RD in his first attempt ... Speedway sprint cars ... Rally cross ... Moto cross bikes ... International Drift series ... World track speed records ... Won New Zealand Single seater GP starting from pit lane in his first attempt ... The list goes on and on and Won most of them ... He's the most versatile Race Driver on the Planet that can drive anything and Win ... Its all on TH-cam ... There is not 1 driver in that Nascar field that even comes close to being in the same league as Shane when it comes to driving talent ... For some it's hard to accept but he's just that good ... Hope that helps People realize how and why he basically destroyed that Nascar field on Sunday 🇳🇿
@nosoyallowed828 He actually led his race the whole way, when you guys understand this , you'll get better, he's a master strategist. That switchback move for the race lead is something the Aussie drivers do well, it gives an advantage in cornering speed for the overtake too, that's why he was able to establish that lead, he could have driven away but he didn't need too, he just got the gap and drove it home, just like he does down under.........
What a gentleman. Brushed aside the other guys attempt to generate drama and gave a very positive and respectful answer.
Catchup guys, over here we call him "the GIZZ"
A great racer will succeed no matter what he's driving or where he is driving it. In his own words, Shane said this was his bread and butter and the situation would be reversed if it were an oval. I agree, but I will say Great racers adapt and adjust. Shane could do well with practice on an Oval, just as Kyle can on a street course, but would have a learning curve his first time out.
I saw some analysis saying that SVG's experience on street circuits meant that he was able to open out the corners by being much closer to the walls before turning in and straightening out than the regular NASCAR drivers. Guy said he was regularly only about 3in clear, and that was where he made the most gains on the competition.
Dale Jr is honest with his assessments. Plus he knows the topic. I love listening to him.
Id love to see Paul Morris on the download at some point!
iirc he has been already...
I have followed SVG's career since his inception in the V8 Supercar Series and he is a very humble person. There is no way he would ever say the NASCAR guys are terrible drivers.
He will always show nothing but respect for his fellow racers. He has even said street courses is his thing, and if he were to race at Daytona or Talledega the others guys would wipe the floor with him.
That's his respect and humility to the NASCAR guys.
he's only saying that, kiwis are just humble ppl...
Oval Racing would be right up his Alley, he was the most aggressive, drongo around when he started with Ford, the Stone Brothers,
Dale Jr is right, if any of those cup drivers drove around Bathurst they would see why svg was so comfortable with the walls, plus his rain and street racing experience, plus he had nothing to lose which is why he went "full send on some drivers" but I'm still a proud kiwi
Damn straight.🇳🇿🤘
Well said, I’m from Aus and I’ve only ever watched 1 nascar race which was the race with Kimi Räikkönen, this will be my 2nd race and I’m sure attracting new audiences is also a key goal.
Gis would never say that. He showed complete respect and got respect back for his achievement. He has 15 years and 3 Supercar championships plus racing in other categories in his kitbag. That was his advantage in Chicago. But remember, he was only a couple of seconds ahead of plenty of US drivers. He said in the post race interviews that he would come last on an oval track.
But Nascar has just shown the degree of extra interest it attracts, specially from overseas audiences, by having international drivers in their racing. It also shows that you will have to be good at oval, road course and street racing to win a championship in the future. The days of the Good Ole Boys winning is probably over.
Wow very humble from a champion man,
Very impressed he makes me feel proud to be an Aussie.
WELL SAID . GREAT RACING MATE. !!!
The two disciplines can't really be compared, a great race for everyone!! Love the respect in the racing community
I only do sim racing, but Bathurst is really fun. Really difficult but I seem to run well there (compared to my league)
I'm an Australian and love V8 supercars race but I also love American racing too... and the end of the day we are all united in racing... there's no better or worst in this sport, but its good to see how Australia and America enbrace one another....❤
As an Australian nothing could make me happier than if NASCAR could have a Cup Race at Bathurst. Americans need to see and race this racetrack for themselves.
Wouldn't be the first time we've had NASCAR's at Bathurst either. The next gens would be a lot better up there this time around.
A nascar cup race at Bathurst would end up being a very expensive wrecking yard, very interesting indeed...
They'd probably fly over the dipper
It's weird how very few US drivers have ever had any kind of success at Aussie touring car racing, or at Bathurst either during the regular season or in the 24 hour races.
Bathurst at Easter nascar yeah baby😂😂😂
Without even watching, here it is: SVG won the race (and stayed out of the walls) with heel-toe right foot driving and rev matching the downshifts while using his clutch, *to keep his rear tires from locking up on corner entry* , rather than simply slamming that inline sequential shifter forward as fast and as many times as it could go, while hammering the brakes coming into corner like the other drivers (ie. Bubba Wallace ?).....
100% agree with this viewpoint and crossover should be both ways. This would expand the competition so much. It’s exciting
Too funny, Shane sure rattled the Nascar drivers cage.
Compare the two drivers running in second place behind Haley during the last laps, one was so focused on getting to his bumper to spin him to win that he ran head first into the wall, the other who definitely didn’t want to be the foreigner to wreck the leader didn’t force the pass, even backed out, then executed cleanly for the win.
From a kiwi, what a great response. Doff my cap to you sir. You are a class act.
Let’s remember he’s sitting on the opposite side of the car, shifting with his opposite hand, used to a very different type of aero, locked diff etc. I’d love to see a NASCAR driver come over to Australia and try, it would be an interesting challenge.
Also have to remember that SVG has thousands of hours of experience in street/circuit tracks over the other drivers... That's a much bigger factor than any of the car differences. A NASCAR driver racing in V8 Supercars would do about as well as a Supercar driver in an oval lol. Yes very fun to see tho!
He rallies a left hand drive Skoda in rallies. Plenty of gear changes with his opposite hand.
SVG is one of the humblest guys you will ever come across, He seemed to portray that in his post race interviews.
'The Giz' said the biggest difference between the V8 Supercar and NASCAR is the amount of downforce generated by the underfloor in the NASCAR, he said the cars are glued to the track compared to Supercars.
The coverage is something that needs fixing. A driver moves from 18th to 1st and we only see him when he arrived in 3rd place? Where's the story of his drive through half the field?
yes... I was somewhat lucky that the car camera that goes on YT was on him... it was visible that he was turning laps faster than the whole field
Exactly as Dale put it. The Supercar drivers are experienced street car racers so not surprised SVG did so well. Nascar needs to further embrace the street circuit approach, it will strengthen Nascars future both in US and internationally, bring it on! Also as an Aussie bring the Nascar drivers to Supercars ... awesome prospect.
I was impressed with SVG's clean passing. When Austin Dillion was in 2nd place, you could see all he was trying to do was get to 31's bumper so Dillion could spin him out.
Agreed 100%. SVG never used the bumper. The last few laps he was 1.5 seconds faster than the 2nd and 3rd place cars. He was reported to be braking 100 deeper into every corner. The man has some serious talent. I agree with Dale Dr. that at Watkins Glen where the Cup guys have experience, he'd have to work harder, but he could absolutely still get it done. True the Cup guys had zero experience at the Chicago Street Course, but let's be fair, neither did SVG!
Im a new NASCAR fan because of the great sportmanship shown by everyone and the Chicago race!😊
Like to see more cross overs in all motorsports.
Danged old Junior has become like the Eric Severeid of NASCAR. The second SVG won I was looking forward to the Dirty Mo take on what happened. Damn man, that was like CBS Sunday Morning stuff. Thanks man.
Mclaughlin can win Nascar too....he was usually in front of SVG...fantastic Kiwis battling for an Aussie crown.
Don't forget SVG was on the wrong side of the car..we sit on the right hand side
Man I would love to see Scott in a Cup car since now he has oval experience. Imagine seeing Scott and Shane battling in cup cars.
@bobsnotmyuncle3956 That would be awesome mate....Armstrong is in there too
NZ is the new Finland to 🌎 racing
scotty was only dominating coz of penske money... look where that team is now penskes money is gone!... that and parity of the cars....dont get me wrong...scotty is an AWESOME driver.. him and SVG have pushed each other their entire career until scotty left for indy...
I hate saying this but they made supercars better it is not an Aussie series its an AusNZ series.
They are so good cause them sheep are sure hard to catch🤣🤣🤣
Lovely humble interview much respect to DEJr from NZ racing fans. Love Nascar. Surprising that V8 Supercar series is not widely know about or watched in the US. SVG is a champion driver and a top bloke. Thing that sets him apart is he is fearless behind the wheel. His aggressive racing style is what sets him apart. Sometimes it works sometimes it doesn't. If it doesn't he gets beaten by a better overall and more technical driver ie Scott McLaughlin. Looking forward to see him race oval tracks.
All the nascar drivers would learn a shitload by coming over to australia and training with Paul morris and russell ingall at norwell motor plex,that place is a pure talent factory.Not every teacher can teach everybody but they have a knack of training and implementing skills like no other.....
Thanks for the kind words Jr , as a kiwi and a V8s fan . Your description of the mountain was perfect . Reality is , just like you Americans we like our racing hard .
If you are a student of auto racing you know Aussie V8 is the best racing in the world. I’m not surprised SVG came over and dominated.
He should. It was in a race winning car, in a car designed based off of the cars he race, on a track type he's ridiculously experienced in, when the cup guys never have been there. It's a testament to the cup guys that he didn't win by 10 seconds.
He wasn't going to do this at Watkins Glen, Sonoma, etc
@@SirMan48 Respectfully, I beg to differ. Watkins Glen is a road course that SVG would eat up. Most Supercar drivers would be faster than most would expect. Ovals are a different kettle. It would take a little longer...
You nailed it in regards to the level playing field, we weren't super shocked at the result here in Aus. You could even say Shane actually had an advantage given his experience with street circuits and the cars being so similar. I think in that trim the cup car had a bit over 500hp which would of been a little more manageable than a supercar on that track which only has one engine spec of a bit over 600hp.
None of us think Nascar drivers aren't good drivers or even that Shane is a god amongst men or anything. My first reaction was "Let's see him in an oval race before we got to excited"
The last 2 races trackhouse put a lot into it because they know big teams skip them 2 races and not put a lit into them. They focus on the places they are going bace to in Playoffs. Justin Marks circled both races ion their calendar
I feel like SVG coming over and winning a NASCAR race and making it look easy, has been a massive wakeup call for NASCAR Fans AND Drivers.
Jr has economical interest in nascar so he will never criticise anything nascar. That’s why it was fresh to get objectivity from Chase and Kyle. First SVG was driving on the opposite side of the road. The Aero and downforce is different in both series . He had far less sim time than the cup guys where they have driven the Chicago street course for over 2 years. He just give them an ass whooping plain and simple. He was 1.2s a lap faster and passed the most cars that’s embarrassing for the cup guys.
Someone finally says it how it really was.
I'm pretty sure they were saying that the simulator was wrong about the difficulty of some of the corners and things like that, so you can't just call the simulator access a straight up advantage.
edit: if anything, it was probably an advantage for him that the simulator everyone else had been using for months (that he only used a few times) was wrong. the other drivers with almost no street race experience had to trust the sim to teach them about the track, and that's one of their biggest tools. SVG had much less time in the sim and so didn't have as many concrete expectations of the track, so the differences wouldn't have been as unexpected to him as to the other drivers. to add on to that, they don't use sims in supercars, so he's used to learning tracks by driving them, in a way the other drivers weren't. another advantage to him.
yes, he gave them an ass-whooping, but I don't think the cup drivers should be embarrassed by it. the only advantage they really had over him was familiarity with the car and the way nascar works (spotters, pit stops etc). and he's driven in a lot of different racing series so that's barely an advantage at all, because he's used to being unfamiliar with what he's driving. if it had been a regular track they'd all driven before and he hadn't, then yes they should be embarrassed. if it had been an oval, they should be really fucking embarrassed. but it was neither of those things.
He beat their asses. I’d love to see him at the Glen. He’d win there too.
@@lestercombs1871 That would be awesome. But ... I'm concerned he would be a marked man.
He has had more experience on road circuits than any Nascar driver. He just drove it like he drives his V8SC. Being from Australia and watching V8SC he is a master of looking after his tyres. And when he came up upon another driver I knew what was going to happen.
Dale is a guy I'd enjoy a few beers with.
Supercars has SERIOUS talent. I feel their racing is second to NONE
Thank you Dale for saying about New Zealand
Look at Darrel Waltrip going around Bathurst . . Well worth it . Funny .
Thank you , i enjoyed listening to speak , and very well spoken it was
Very disappointed in Chase Elliot’s comment. He could have just said congrats to a great driver and moved on. He chose to be the hurt feelings guy and “sound” like a spoiled kid. Watching the race I could tell that SVG had a great chance to winning by three things. 1, he wisely chose to stay in third and let the two guys in front of him fight each other early in the race. 2, He let loose his real ability late in the race and moved through the entire field (That’s Hollywood Movie stuff folks) and 3, His use of the clutch pedal which none of the comments about it during the race really identified and, that is I believe he was using the clutch to his advantage to help kick the car around corners and be just a little faster than everyone else. And whether he tweaked the car or not before the race, let’s give Trackhouse the credit for giving him a great car that endured and allowed his driving skills to shine through.
It is great to have hindsight.............They ALL ventured into the unknown on lap-1,turn-1 [on a wet track] ALL the drivers need to be congratulated for a job well done.
To play devil's advocate here a little bit, after SVG's Chicago win, can I now legitimately call BS evertime I hear announcers say the Cup drivers are "the best stock car drivers in the world"......
There's nothing stock about either car anymore
They are some of the best in the world, it doesn't mean another driver from another racing series can't beat them. Tom Brady lost many games and super bowls, doesn't mean he wasn't the best QB to ever play. Your logic is flawed!!
Exactly they are the best NASCAR drivers
@@rebelsoul5980 No not flawed. NASCAR drivers are good at driving NASCAR. NFL players are good at NFL
@@robertryan7204 oooook, so what is your point 🤣🤣 F1 drivers are good at F1, Indy car drivers are good at Indy. A street course has and had the potential for an outlier to win, it doesn't mean Nascar drivers are not some of the best in the world, they are some of the best race car drivers in the world! I will definitely admit that a few drivers get there through money and name(Ty Gibbs) just to name 1. Although he is still a damn good driver!
I am loving this level of analysis of what SVG did, and not wanting to just hate. this will only make NASCAR more exciting!!! I also hope the US drivers come to Australia and drive the V8 Supercar series.... love the show guys.... love from down under
Hopefully, you guys have Marcos Ambrose to come on the show someday too.
G'day mate thanks for your words your a gentleman..i can't help but think Shane may get bored going in circles,,I have watched nascar and we had our own here as oz car and I appreciate the efforts of ball racing.. and torture, both physically and mentally and the training must be so bloody hard to handle ,,cheers to them all
Let’s bring your top NASCAR guys to Bathurst
What a great bloke Dale is..being an aussie hes welcome downunder anytime..