As a rangers fan, Beale was more damaging to our club than pedro caixinha was. Pedro was the completely wrong manager for the demands that rangers had, but he had minimal backing and inherited an awful team, Beale on the other hand was the complete opposite, inherited a team that retained much of the core parts that went to a europa league final. He turned a competitive team that needed 3/4 more players to be a winning team into a shell of its former self after spending roughly 20million which for rangers is like if Everton spend £100 million in a year. Worst thing is, I wanted Beale to do so well at rangers.
I love Zealand's portrayal of Ange at Tottenham is basically Crocodile Dundee turning up in North London, saying "G'day mate" carrying a Fosters in hand, and then competing for top 4. I can't help but love Ange, as a fellow Aussie.
American Mackems: 1) Lynden Gooch (adopted Mackem/Legend). 2) The Reyna family (Claudio played for Sunderland, Gio born in Sunderland). 3) Zealand Shannon (masochist).
I usually take great pleasure in having a laugh at Sunderland's expense, I'm a Newcastle fan, of course I do, and this is no exception. But their fans were against this from the get go and when you look at his managerial stint there as a whole, not just the last week, it's obvious to see why
Yep. 3 jobs in a row, 3 fanbases who hated him. When Sunderland appointed him Rangers fans warned us that he would alienate the players, fall out with the fanbase, be far too active and sensitive on social media, push a brand of awful football, spout corporate buzzword BS like a machine gun. All of this came true.
Zealand please do a video about my beloved Ipswich Town. New American owners almost 3 years ago and we're on the up, fighting for automatic promotion despite every team around us having parachute payments
I knew I liked you for a reason..FM fanatic and a Sunderland fan, you're like my American counterpart 😁 If you don't already know, you might be interested in a club in Kenya called Sunderland AFC Naivasha (formerly Sunderland AFC Keroche/Karai). They're a club of Sunderland fans who are sponsored by locals in the North East of England and they stream their matches and share Club News on Facebook. They are now on a similar rise to us but in the Kenyan Football Pyramid and it's a lovely representation on how the sport brings people of all lives together. I think it would be an excellent story to cover on your channel.
He’s a great coach in a team of coaches like he was at rangers and Liverpool but I think he’s incapable of being the main man with so many eyes on you. Rangers and Sunderland have big fan bases and it’s a tough job to walk into either without a lot of experience. Especially rangers and the demands expected
Whatever else you think, putting your profile on private is the correct choice to be honest: His inbox will be lit at the moment, but this will have all blown over in a few weeks time. Common and sensible approach to dealing with online drama.
Rangers fans had said that Beale was known for engrossing himself in social media and taking every criticism personally. Even still, having an anonymous account to big himself up was a revelation nobody saw coming
Oof as a North American (Canadian) Sunderland fan who picked them because they were far away from Bristol (where I was living) and they were similar to my grade school team I played on. So I feel the pain of that support. Of course when I started following they had Nail Quinn and Kevin Phillips which was a lot of fun. Beale was a foolish appointment and I am glad he is gone.
Its also somewhat relevant that the toxic fanbase tweet is from a coventry fan, a team that Sunderland hate almost as much as Newcastle for famously getting them relegated in the 70s.
Zealand being a sunderland fan is something i didnt expect 😂😂also a manager having a burner account on twitter and hating his fans is absolutely absurd
i've really enjoyed this, never knew that just listening to zealand telling me stuff would make me want to actively come back to listen, looking for a new video, this format is a slow moving but will ultimately be successful
We knew Beale was a Charlatan from the get go. A lot of rangers and Sunderland fans know each other or follow both teams. We’d heard a lot about him from rangers fans and straight away used the same playbook he used up there. Throwing players under the bus, not being able to take the blame for a defeat etc. complete prick of a bloke and every Sunderland fan I’ve spoke too including myself is glad he’s gone. Not even one person I know and this was before the player I’d stuff
Love hearing you talk about my team :) but this whole fiasco is classic us, it's never dull. Fans didn't want him from the get-go, and he himself made it worse as time went on. Absolutely awful situation, shouldn't have let Mowbray go, or let this chancer come in
Someone made a full on thread on Twitter/X detailing everything he’s done wrong. It’s somewhere under @Vizeh’s initial tweet asking why he’s such a bad manager. From that thread I also think he’s probably not that great of a person either. It’s BLEAK 😂
Dude, when I was 9 in 2005, the janitor of my school (in Germany) gave me a Bolton shirt as a present. What follows was me being a Bolton fan for a few years, witnessing their slowly downfall. A bit different from all the other 9 year olds being Bayern fans 😅
Life long Sunderland fan and born and bred in Sunderland! I'm just about to go to the match ( season ticket holder for 27 years) I've seen some shit in my time but never ever seen this happen! Beale will sneak off to a club in Europe spouting his David Brent rubbish blaming everyone else apart from himself! Sunderland fans admittedly didn't want him and his first home game was toxic! He should never have been given the job but it's not his fault in applying! Hopefully Dodds can get us into the playoffs ( be very hard ) and we get Will Still in the summer!
You need to check on Tigre's mánager Gorosito, who affirms that a player allegedly heads a bottle searching for being hurt on purpose last week for argentinian cup between Chacarita AND His team
"Ange came in ... and everything turned around" lol'd a bit, this was true for first 3 months, now they are 5th again and if they will go like this they will finish below United. Looks like it's not the managers, it's team who is cursed.
@@Pyretik 100%. After losing Harry Kane most people would have said they were mid table at best, instead they'll probably finish higher than they did last year, and they're actually fun to watch now.
Honesty? Sure. But I still wouldn't want that man as my manager. Because he's clearly never thought through anything he's ever done and well... I don't want that kind of man running my team. No criticism to honesty, but there needs to be some level of intelligence as well.
It really didn't help that Cov stuffed Sunderland 3-0 at the Stadium Of Light in Beale's first game in charge. Boos were ringing around the stadium after the second one went in halfway through the second half and upon the third just three minutes later, the whole place emptied!🤣
It's a ride being a safc fan. 90% of the time it's terrible but that other 10 percent is just the best! It's never dull! Sunderland chaos theory hoooooo
That account, along with a ton of other evidence, proves he's not an honest guy though (even if he admitted it was his). Many managers need to learn words have meaning & actions have consequences. I'll always go back to Benitez (as a Chelsea fan) to make this point, he calls us soulless & says he'll never manage a club "like us", then has the cheek to play the victim when it's apparent he'll never be given a chance with the fans. Was just a throw away comment to connect with Liverpool fans at the time, but it showed he has no respect & the fact he didn't live by those words (and refused to acknowledge he even said them) showed he has no integrity. This is a hole Beale dug himself. He didn't need to preach about loyalty at QPR, were throw away comments to make the fans embrace him even more, then actively looked to jump ship within months - so immediately no-one's going to take you seriously cos your words are meaningless. Just like that account, anytime he praised Sunderland in interviews is utterly meaningless now, what owner will hire a guy they can never trust is openly saying what he's feeling? At that point all you have left is coaching skill to offer & football management is too competitive & unstable to stay anywhere for a significant period of time based on that alone.
I lost my attention span in this video because I have "haven't I see this name before" moment. It turns out, I had. He was an assistant for Rogerio Ceni at São Paulo. And he got fired as the rest of the staff since bad results and Brazil shenanigans. At least the Guy its honest. Professionally stupid. But honest.
As a sunderland sufferer im kinda just numb to it sll now. Beale was never going to be a popular choice, but man the football was trash and he came across as arrogant. He was a bit if a divvy
😂😂😂😂 beale at rangers was a shit show and we tims fucking loved every second it From the supposed elite head coach to the man behind the man Gerrard winning a title when their was a global pandemic happening to watching them demand his head and realising they had been took for a ride was just class to see and him winning 1 game against celtic after celtic had won 2 trophies the LC and the league at had knocked rangers out the Scottish cup the week prior gave them pure hope he was still man behind the man
Luton Town fan here, when both teams were in Division One, Sunderland fans took great delight in telling us how we were sh#t and going back to the Conference, how they were the biggest club ever and were going to be in the Premier League in 2 years. They are the most toxic fans I've dealt with personally, even compared to the crap we get from Premier League now is nothing compared to the bile thrown at Luton from Sunderland fans. They're always gonna be in Newcastles shadow.
Fans love to say 'it's just a game, I dont know why there has to be so much money involved.' Meanwhile, when those same peoples team loses, they act like their lives are over lmao. All I'm saying is I can totally understand people at bigger clubs to hate most of their fans.
Zealand… I used to like you… and now I find out you’re a Mackem?! Nah, unsubscribed, can’t be following a Sunderland fan. As a Middlesbrough fan it’s just not allowed. (Joking of course before anyone starts)
Beale is really talented. He actually managed to get 3 separate fanbases to hate him in only like 2 years. Now THAT is talent
Hes a man of focus, commitment and sheer fcking will
We are not that keen on him at villa either.
@@rodvik what did he do to y’all?
@@Reaper_ginger Gerrard's assistant when he had them on a relegation express train
@@MenWithVen ah makes sense. I thought he was only Gerrard’s assistant at Rangers
As a rangers fan, Beale was more damaging to our club than pedro caixinha was. Pedro was the completely wrong manager for the demands that rangers had, but he had minimal backing and inherited an awful team, Beale on the other hand was the complete opposite, inherited a team that retained much of the core parts that went to a europa league final. He turned a competitive team that needed 3/4 more players to be a winning team into a shell of its former self after spending roughly 20million which for rangers is like if Everton spend £100 million in a year.
Worst thing is, I wanted Beale to do so well at rangers.
I love Zealand's portrayal of Ange at Tottenham is basically Crocodile Dundee turning up in North London, saying "G'day mate" carrying a Fosters in hand, and then competing for top 4.
I can't help but love Ange, as a fellow Aussie.
American Mackems: 1) Lynden Gooch (adopted Mackem/Legend). 2) The Reyna family (Claudio played for Sunderland, Gio born in Sunderland). 3) Zealand Shannon (masochist).
Sunderland till he cries
Zea being a Sunderland fan. This made me happy.
Sunderland mentioned celebration!!! I blame Fifa for loaning me to Sunderland and hearing their fan chant and it made me fall in love with them
as the famous chant goes “Sunderland take over, everywhere we go”
The description of Tottenham with Ange coming in and winning everyone over by just saying "Mate" for some reason just totally cracked me up.
Same haha
If you like honesty. You'll love Troy Deeney at Forest Green
I usually take great pleasure in having a laugh at Sunderland's expense, I'm a Newcastle fan, of course I do, and this is no exception. But their fans were against this from the get go and when you look at his managerial stint there as a whole, not just the last week, it's obvious to see why
he painted our bar in your colours should have been sacked then, oh and ....FTM
You must love him for handing you the win, his tactics didn't even give us a chance at an upset 😅
@@andysadler6432 Beale did that? Not sure about that mate lol.
Yep. 3 jobs in a row, 3 fanbases who hated him. When Sunderland appointed him Rangers fans warned us that he would alienate the players, fall out with the fanbase, be far too active and sensitive on social media, push a brand of awful football, spout corporate buzzword BS like a machine gun. All of this came true.
@@MenWithVen i'm a gers fan and that is spot on mate 😂
Zealand please do a video about my beloved Ipswich Town. New American owners almost 3 years ago and we're on the up, fighting for automatic promotion despite every team around us having parachute payments
Too positive lol
Would really love to see Ipswich and Norwich get promoted together one of these seasons!
He's going to wait until West Ham poach McKenna, the board hire Rooney as the new Manager and we end up back in League One.
Look what they also did with Phoenix Rising.
@@mrbismarck "How a fallen giant rose, then fell again"
Get this man a Sunderland shirt, love it Zea mate🔴⚪️
I knew I liked you for a reason..FM fanatic and a Sunderland fan, you're like my American counterpart 😁
If you don't already know, you might be interested in a club in Kenya called Sunderland AFC Naivasha (formerly Sunderland AFC Keroche/Karai). They're a club of Sunderland fans who are sponsored by locals in the North East of England and they stream their matches and share Club News on Facebook. They are now on a similar rise to us but in the Kenyan Football Pyramid and it's a lovely representation on how the sport brings people of all lives together. I think it would be an excellent story to cover on your channel.
As a Sunderland fan I agree with this! It would be a great story to talk about!
Cool, that does sound interesting!
bro became the liz truss of football but somehow still lasted longer than her
Great video, Zealand! You're so eloquent and handsome. Makes me happy to be a viewer who is in no way connected to you at all.
Michael Beale needs therapy, that's probably the nicest thing I can say about him after his stint at QPR.
He’s a great coach in a team of coaches like he was at rangers and Liverpool but I think he’s incapable of being the main man with so many eyes on you. Rangers and Sunderland have big fan bases and it’s a tough job to walk into either without a lot of experience. Especially rangers and the demands expected
Whatever else you think, putting your profile on private is the correct choice to be honest: His inbox will be lit at the moment, but this will have all blown over in a few weeks time.
Common and sensible approach to dealing with online drama.
Rangers fans had said that Beale was known for engrossing himself in social media and taking every criticism personally.
Even still, having an anonymous account to big himself up was a revelation nobody saw coming
Oof as a North American (Canadian) Sunderland fan who picked them because they were far away from Bristol (where I was living) and they were similar to my grade school team I played on.
So I feel the pain of that support. Of course when I started following they had Nail Quinn and Kevin Phillips which was a lot of fun.
Beale was a foolish appointment and I am glad he is gone.
I really can’t blame him.
Its also somewhat relevant that the toxic fanbase tweet is from a coventry fan, a team that Sunderland hate almost as much as Newcastle for famously getting them relegated in the 70s.
One of my favourite chants of all time.. ? Cheer up Peter Reid, oh what can it mean
Zealand being a sunderland fan is something i didnt expect 😂😂also a manager having a burner account on twitter and hating his fans is absolutely absurd
i've really enjoyed this, never knew that just listening to zealand telling me stuff would make me want to actively come back to listen, looking for a new video, this format is a slow moving but will ultimately be successful
Michael Beale: "The truth is... I am Iron Man."
I'm a mackem and I'm so glad that you're covering this hilarious and most Sunderland story I've witnessed.
We knew Beale was a Charlatan from the get go. A lot of rangers and Sunderland fans know each other or follow both teams. We’d heard a lot about him from rangers fans and straight away used the same playbook he used up there. Throwing players under the bus, not being able to take the blame for a defeat etc. complete prick of a bloke and every Sunderland fan I’ve spoke too including myself is glad he’s gone. Not even one person I know and this was before the player I’d stuff
The way he is better at management than covering his tracks
Beale boutta run away from his own fans. Yes I am running out of ways of telling Z to run
Love hearing you talk about my team :) but this whole fiasco is classic us, it's never dull. Fans didn't want him from the get-go, and he himself made it worse as time went on. Absolutely awful situation, shouldn't have let Mowbray go, or let this chancer come in
That's one of the best story I've heard in the last years😂
Zealand supports Sunderland? I’ve had a few season tickets and have one this year with my son. Never saw this coming
"Never believe anything until it's been officially denied"
If you take anything from this video people, be sure to watch Butch Cassidy and The Sundance Kid. Great film.
Zealand having a secret Twitter he uses to follow OF models is officially a part of the non-cannon expanded Zealandverse
Someone made a full on thread on Twitter/X detailing everything he’s done wrong. It’s somewhere under @Vizeh’s initial tweet asking why he’s such a bad manager. From that thread I also think he’s probably not that great of a person either. It’s BLEAK 😂
It's amazing how Beale ruined his reputation so quickly, at this many clubs.
As a Norwich City fan, I'm loving the green. Just needs a bit of yellow too 😏🔰
Dude, when I was 9 in 2005, the janitor of my school (in Germany) gave me a Bolton shirt as a present. What follows was me being a Bolton fan for a few years, witnessing their slowly downfall.
A bit different from all the other 9 year olds being Bayern fans 😅
Life long Sunderland fan and born and bred in Sunderland! I'm just about to go to the match ( season ticket holder for 27 years) I've seen some shit in my time but never ever seen this happen! Beale will sneak off to a club in Europe spouting his David Brent rubbish blaming everyone else apart from himself! Sunderland fans admittedly didn't want him and his first home game was toxic! He should never have been given the job but it's not his fault in applying! Hopefully Dodds can get us into the playoffs ( be very hard ) and we get Will Still in the summer!
As a Leeds fan I feel this pain
U should get a cat i will love this channel even more if he was jus chillin' in the back.
Off topic but this sounds like Jerry Colangelo in the NBA with the 76ers years ago😂
Reminds me of KD burner account and the classic ''KD cannot win with these Cats'' in OKC.
should make a video on Sheffield Wednesday and all the stuff that's happened with muñoz and chansiri
Over 6 minutes into this video and you still haven't said what this manager did - Talk about waffle and liking the sound of your own voice. down tick!
You need to check on Tigre's mánager Gorosito, who affirms that a player allegedly heads a bottle searching for being hurt on purpose last week for argentinian cup between Chacarita AND His team
"Ange came in ... and everything turned around" lol'd a bit, this was true for first 3 months, now they are 5th again and if they will go like this they will finish below United. Looks like it's not the managers, it's team who is cursed.
Tottenham were expected to be mid table at best this season
@@Pyretik 100%. After losing Harry Kane most people would have said they were mid table at best, instead they'll probably finish higher than they did last year, and they're actually fun to watch now.
Ange is doing great right now from a team that should be 7-10th. Atleast he made Tottenham competitive again
I have the exact same backstory but with Wigan Athletic
Honesty? Sure. But I still wouldn't want that man as my manager.
Because he's clearly never thought through anything he's ever done and well... I don't want that kind of man running my team.
No criticism to honesty, but there needs to be some level of intelligence as well.
It really didn't help that Cov stuffed Sunderland 3-0 at the Stadium Of Light in Beale's first game in charge. Boos were ringing around the stadium after the second one went in halfway through the second half and upon the third just three minutes later, the whole place emptied!🤣
Would never have pegged you as a Sunderland fan. Welcome to the pain
This was just baffling. That only should make clubs not appoint him anymore
I dont know much about managing circles in the Prem but is this "Welcome to the Vanarama League Beale"?
It's a ride being a safc fan. 90% of the time it's terrible but that other 10 percent is just the best! It's never dull! Sunderland chaos theory hoooooo
Everyone has another Reddit account...
I knew it about Romano and Perez! Nobody would believe me!
I play FM and I hate my fake digital fans. Imagine if it was more realistic.
Bro pulled a kevin durant 😭😭😭
Good coaches don't necessarily make good managers. Paul Clement is the prime example.
An American form nyc In 2002 I realized I was really interested in fulham fc and it’s been smooth sailing ever since!😢😢😢😢😅😅
2nds time he got fired this season
he also got fired by glasgow rangers
And it’s not only February, he still has time for a 3rd if anyone is stupid enough to hire him again
SAFC! Good man
bryan colangelo moment
As a A QPR fan, I can only say - ha ha, ha ha ha ha ha & ha ha ha :)
He is my ass man in Chelmsford in EPL in 2029
Me and my best mate got a matching set of the shirt you are wearing and we always play with it on together!
That account, along with a ton of other evidence, proves he's not an honest guy though (even if he admitted it was his).
Many managers need to learn words have meaning & actions have consequences. I'll always go back to Benitez (as a Chelsea fan) to make this point, he calls us soulless & says he'll never manage a club "like us", then has the cheek to play the victim when it's apparent he'll never be given a chance with the fans. Was just a throw away comment to connect with Liverpool fans at the time, but it showed he has no respect & the fact he didn't live by those words (and refused to acknowledge he even said them) showed he has no integrity.
This is a hole Beale dug himself. He didn't need to preach about loyalty at QPR, were throw away comments to make the fans embrace him even more, then actively looked to jump ship within months - so immediately no-one's going to take you seriously cos your words are meaningless. Just like that account, anytime he praised Sunderland in interviews is utterly meaningless now, what owner will hire a guy they can never trust is openly saying what he's feeling? At that point all you have left is coaching skill to offer & football management is too competitive & unstable to stay anywhere for a significant period of time based on that alone.
He’s not wrong
I lost my attention span in this video because I have "haven't I see this name before" moment. It turns out, I had.
He was an assistant for Rogerio Ceni at São Paulo. And he got fired as the rest of the staff since bad results and Brazil shenanigans.
At least the Guy its honest. Professionally stupid. But honest.
Why Is everyone but the people actually involved in the actual match allowed to have an opinion
Zealand said FU
The last trophy Sunderland won, they were managed by a Geordie. Evergreen clown club.
Sunderland fan? Subbed
As a sunderland sufferer im kinda just numb to it sll now. Beale was never going to be a popular choice, but man the football was trash and he came across as arrogant. He was a bit if a divvy
I don't get the 'picking a team' ... how can people be actually invested in something you aren't born with and passed down
We've had some interesting managers over the years, but Michael Beale is probably the worst...
😂😂😂😂 beale at rangers was a shit show and we tims fucking loved every second it
From the supposed elite head coach to the man behind the man Gerrard winning a title when their was a global pandemic happening to watching them demand his head and realising they had been took for a ride was just class to see and him winning 1 game against celtic after celtic had won 2 trophies the LC and the league at had knocked rangers out the Scottish cup the week prior gave them pure hope he was still man behind the man
Lol
hi Z
Luton Town fan here, when both teams were in Division One, Sunderland fans took great delight in telling us how we were sh#t and going back to the Conference, how they were the biggest club ever and were going to be in the Premier League in 2 years. They are the most toxic fans I've dealt with personally, even compared to the crap we get from Premier League now is nothing compared to the bile thrown at Luton from Sunderland fans.
They're always gonna be in Newcastles shadow.
Im guessing youve hand picked all the worst comments and painted us all with the same brush. Good luck to you from a Sunderland fan.
Another Reddit account 🤨
Fans love to say 'it's just a game, I dont know why there has to be so much money involved.'
Meanwhile, when those same peoples team loses, they act like their lives are over lmao. All I'm saying is I can totally understand people at bigger clubs to hate most of their fans.
Zealand… I used to like you… and now I find out you’re a Mackem?! Nah, unsubscribed, can’t be following a Sunderland fan. As a Middlesbrough fan it’s just not allowed.
(Joking of course before anyone starts)
Zeeland supports Sunderland, unsub
Who the f are butch Cassidy and Sundance Kid?
Boomer reference?
Lay off Michael Beale. He's a celtic legend 🍀🏴🇮🇪🍀