Jup, way too many people praised laporta for his absolute MENTAL strategy of levers which sounded to any person with half a brain like a majorly bad idea. Laporta had a great first stint. His second is just continuing what Bartomeu started. Putting Barca 6 feet under. @ia
at the same time me: "In the last FFP period you made revenue of 836 million euro while only being allowed to make 5 million in debt...." I cant help myself, my books are ALWAYS in check. And the biggest joy i can take away from this game is when PSG/Al Ahlil offers 250 million euros for my 24 year old columbian striker i found behind a 7/11 trash can and paid 5 euro and a pack of gum for. Which i have already replaced. Twice.
Did you know that the new Camp Nou renovations (Espai Barca) have been in planning since 2013? Rosell never accepted the project and neither did Bartomeu. They really ruined the whole club
The first time I played fm, back in fm2013, I played as Barcelona and didn’t really understand how to manage the finances- I got into terrible financial trouble, and they sacked me. Ever since, I’ve watched it play out irl and feel like somehow my failure in the game has jinxed the real-life club. And yet, the real-life situation is WAY WAY WORSE than what I did in fm.
Kondogbia is from Central African Republic and played for Atletico for 3 years so I am pretty sure they know what Atletico is 😂😂 (but I see your point)
@@MatPocobo42the Central African Republic is literally the third most poor country of Africa, is not something crazy to say, they have an ANNUAL income of 460 USD
The disappointing thing is that the 'financial levers' thing was put to the club membership to a vote who passed it. So it's not simply a case of blaming Laporta and his board.
Lullojo broke FM with buying players on the Never-Never (everything on future fees, nothing out of pocket). This is essentially how Barca managed the peak Mess era and the outrageous salaries of those outrageous players. The pandemic ruined Barca's plan to pay back long term and incurred ridiculous interest payments putting the club where they are now.
I just don't understand why Barca felt the need to pull those levers to buy all these players they are giving high wages. Why couldn't they accept letting everyone on big money leave and becoming a mid table team for a bit until they financially recovered. It's not like they would get relegated or anything. This squad can't even compete in the UCL
Because presidents are voted for and get elected on promises. Like, "ill bring Messi back" kinda promises. They should have kept a few key players and mainly use their youth setup to rebuild indeed and just focus on getting CL football yearly (still easy to do in LaLiga)
It's the football fan thing they want great players and won't accept being sevilla for a while watch Chelsea and United or the worst version of this schulke when u always wanna compete with ppl in better places then u you'll be trouble cuz someone will pay your checks Braca fans thought winning the league would sort them so selling our future is fine @@aristaeus2514
A lot of it has to do with the fear of losing its massive global fanbase. The thought was that if it were just a 7th place team that didn't get into the Champions League consistently Barça would cease to be relevant outside of Spain and would never be able to reach its heights again. Obviously this logic has some problems (look at Man United and how popular they are lol).
11:00 Its also interesting too see that especially Laporta and Perez are so adamant to form a Super League. One does it because "The world" is just not enough, one does it out of pure desperation (and because the world wouldnt be enough if they would be financially stable). One just cant get enough of stacking cash on top of each other, one because they cant stop getting admonition letters.
I slightly disagree. Florentino Perez recognized that at some point, Real Madrid will not be able to compete for players nor keep them at the club with the amount of money that PL clubs have at their disposal through their TV deals and the money nation state-owned clubs have. Him pushing the super league is a way for him to generate a significant amount of revenue for the club that allows them to keep up with those clubs. This is why Florentino has achieved so much success at Madrid.
@@joncasec and what funny is PL can grow and do all that because they split TV money to all club almost the same percentage, the difference just their rangking in PL table. With that money, clubs can buy players and make their league competitive. Meanwhile la liga give TV money privilege to Barca and Madrid for decades, meanwhile other club not get much. Those two clubs greedy make la liga not competitive and less enjoyable compare to PL. And now they complain PL get more money 😅
@@joncaseci mean i wrote it very simplistic for "comedic" effect (...) but you are correct about Perez, although i generally disagree with extend of the current and future gap to the Prem. Also, the Prem is able to grow that way because not only do they split revenue in a fair way, but the league itself can generate so much money and was always lucrative because Britain kept strong ties to its english speaking colonies. A different story for Spain. The reason why the Prem gets so much money is because their potential customer base/viewership is so monumentally big, english is the worlds language.
The important figures here are how much that is per week. 204mil, is just under 4million a week. For context. Manchester City, United and Chelsea typically have wage bills around 5-6mil a week. Barca and Madrid have typically been up around 8-10mil a week. Selling the naming rights makes sense, everyone does it now. Its basically free money. Ashburton Grove sounds nice, but Emirates Stadium gives money. Theres basically two things at play here imo. 1. Barca didn't think financial rules would ACTUALLY get enforced, especially not on them and Madrid. This led them to be confident in continuing to spend recklessly as they had done for years, thinking it wouldn't matter. 2. For more recent things, one the regs did hit, i think the level pulling could be reasoned as a trade off. Yes they lose future income, but they will gain large amounts (although, seemingly maybe no as much as they predicted) from the new stadium. So they pull the levers to enable them to continue at a steady level of expenditure, knowing that that lost future income will be out weighed by the increase in future income provided by the stadium. Obviously, its all gone tits up, but I imagine that is a general thought process behind whats been happening.
I kinda disagree on selling the naming rights to an old stadium. Imagine Old Trafford, Anfield or the San Siro selling their rights. It usually happens with newer stadiums as fans aren't attached to the name.
@@withnail29ManU would sell those rights if the right offer came along, but I'm expecting them to wait because they wouldn't get much for it at the moment (companies generally don't like to be associated with abject failure). San Siro is actually owned by the Milan Council, and while they could try to sell naming rights, there's no way they could get anyone to use the new name - for example, when Inter play there it's called the Giuseppe Meazza. Any ownership group that tried to sell naming rights to Anfield would be run out of town with pitchforks, so they sold the naming rights to the new training complex ("the AXA").
@@nicholastricarico2957 Yous lot have been threatening them for years now for this, that and the other. Probably safe to say they've learned to disregard it. Threats in Manc don't sound threatening, just funneh
@@paulie-g You understand I'm not a Manc, right? I'm not even an Englishman or a Manchester United fan. All I'm saying is that compared to other fanbases around the world, Man United fans have the backbone of a toothpick.
I think one of the core issues is how the club is run. They elect a president every four years. It encourages leadership that has a short-term focus. It's difficult to run a campaign on we're going to get spending under control and reduce salary expenditures. It's not sexy. This is exacerbated by the different visions that the president and Xavi have. Xavi wants to put more focus on academy players, and the president wants to bring in the biggest names. Arguably Barcelona's best players right now are the youngest players like Lamine Yamal. If they leaned into that and Xavi's vision controlling spending would be a little easier. But Xavi is leaving at the end of the season.
That's not the issue you think it is. Bayern Munich does elections on a similar time table and yet has been profitable for 27 years and thinks long term as a business. The difference is in how transparent they are in their business with the fans who own the 50+1%. Your leadership needs to think short term and long term in order to win re-election, unless there is a lack of transparency. Barcelona has very little when it comes to their finances and elections. Bayern has a lot more than them. The ultras keep Bayern management in check. Barcelona, not at all, because they just don't know.
good point! maybe the club would benefit from a more indirect form of democracy. Like the socios not electing the president but some sort of 'club parliament' of knowledgeable representatives which then has the power to appoint a president
@@Zarinus0That's not unusual, Liverpool used to do this back when fans held shares. To be fair, pointing to Bayern is like congratulating the Sultan of Brunei on being in the black. It's factually correct as far as it goes, but there are, shall we say, reasons why Bayern have as much money and profit as they do. It's harder to overspend when you can already sign all the best players in the league, double their wages and not be bothered financially.
I am about 100% sure that considering the way that everything has gone, he would be more willing to go back to Willem II on .5% of the salary he's on now than go to Manchester United. Which, fair.
He knows who to run a business. The other company he runs is like one of the biggest construction contractors in the entire planet. Man speaks money and as a Barca fan I gotta give credit where credit’s due
the info here is actually wrong.. it includes deferred salaries of players who are not even at club and many other variables.. come summer barcelona will actually buy more players.. they are leading in europe in terms income received through match tickets, sponsors etc.. they also haven't received alot of money from levers they pulled last year.
I think the board got super spooked by the group stage exit in the 21/22 Champions League (and then getting knocked out in the quarters of the Europa League). That was the first season without Messi. They reacted by rolling the dice, leveraging the future income and putting all the chips on the 22/23 summer signings of Lewandowski, Raphinha and Kounde. I think I remember hearing Barca had budgeted on then reaching the Champions League quarters in 22/23 as a minimum and yet they got knocked out at the group stage again. If you take a high risk strategy to try and turn your fortunes around in the short term, you have to face the more penal consequences when the dice doesn't roll your way
this was always going to happen, its the natural outcome, the wages and transfer fees being paid is unsustainable, there will be a massive reckoning in football sooner or later
Barça is owned by his fans and they had a presidential election in 2021 when they already know that Messi was leaving because they didn't have money to do the renewal. Fans had to choose between doing levers and spend money that they don't have to keep the status that they have to attract players like Lewy or Kounde or Gundo. Or try to cut the spends and risk of being 2 or 3 years out of champions league/european competition and lose the big status that they had. Laporta wins by majority and all is history
just last night i watched a video in spanish titled “CÓMO SE DESTRUYÓ EL MEJOR EQUIPO DE LA HISTORIA” in which there were things going on behind the scenes that we didn’t know and in reality, when barca won the treble in 2015, the club was actually in chaos. after watching that video with added context, it’s honestly a miracle that we managed to remain in the top for so long. and then, after terrible financial decisions through the years we could’ve gone back to la masia ways and try to rebuild, but instead laporta finished selling the club’s soul in a deal which i knew back then could be very dangerous for barcelona, meanwhile the other fucking fans celebrated it. i still considered myself a barca fan and i still do, but it’s not the same passion as before because this isn’t the same club as before. as a barcelona fan who didn’t really care about the sport till 2016 (i was still pretty young) but then became a football nerd after watching messi, this hurts. i missed the last UCL that barca won and who knows if the club has any future at all
I have the same feeling, and me being a fan is deeply rooted in the Johan Cruijff connection, being Ajax fan as my home nation club. I always loved and supported Barca almost equally as much as Ajax. Nowadays though, I cant.. they abandoned all and I have not celebrated last years League title because I knew it wasnt going to be enough to solve the problems. They literally will have to win every year and win the Champions League 5 times in the next 8 years or so
LaPorte is only making it worse though, and to be honest he is literally trying to do worse than Bartomeu. Pointing fingers to Bartomeu is quite naive or wilfully blind.
*Makes decisions that are good gor money now, but bad for money in the future* Zeeland: "That's so stupid, you're gonna need the money in the future!" *Makes decisions that are bad for money now, but good for money in the future*. Zeeland "They're incompetent! You're not making as much money as you need" I don't know what you expect them to do tbh.
With the kinda form he is in, nobody would pay more than 50 mil. for him. Which isn't that much money. Also we CANNOT fill that natural striker void in current market. It would be like shooting ourselves on the foot.
And thats the problem with LaPorte.. he isnt fixing it, he just borrows money to ducttape it all. Tbh they should get rid of these stupid elections and get a proper president in that can focus on the long term instead.
Barca is financially stable club. FFP is whole different thing in LaLiga. Levers they pulled made club reduce debt, short-term debt to turn into long-term. Club can spend money, but are not allowed by FFP. They reduced spending from 700 to over 400m€. Club doesn't have to go to 204m€, club can still sign players with 1/4 rule (or 60% rule in 2024). Club selling parts of Bstudios is why Bstudios was created for many years ago. Same goes for BLM. Those aren't club shares, those are companies created by club for it's shares to be sold to investors. And it worked as charm, BLM actually raised market income, merchandise income (first in the world). Barcelona sold nothing of club's shares. They need to keep reducing cost of squad, which is counted for all selections in all sports Barcelona plays. Club is getting closer to getting to 1/1 rule (sell for 100, buy for 100). You saying Florentino better running the job. He also sold to Libero finances, he sold part of stadium income, he sold TV right income also. What BArca done with levers, Real already did it. Remember selling 100% of tv rights in 2000s for 10 years for 1bn€. To understand why all the fuss about BArca is you have to understand how Spanish & Catalan media work. Spanish media are close to Real Madrid, not reporting anything bad about them, and bashing Barca. Catalan media on the other hand are always bashing Barca, because they want to have control withing when they had Rosell and Barto. So all these stories about Barca come from those media, which makes club's image bad, which in fact is everything other teams done. All teams signed TV rights levers, and RM also did levers. If you want to know more, you can contact me and I'll introduce you to all FFP problems club is facing.
a lot of missinformation here. Or poorly understood one, at the best. Barça Studios is just a bunch of nothing that has various businesses associated with barça trademark such as concerts at spotify camp nou, NFT and rights to do docuseries. Most of them provide 0 stream revenue to the club. And Barcelona actually hasn't sold all of it, just 49%, with the idea to make that company public (spectacular failure btw). Also, we have to clearly distinguish betweet Josep María Bartomeu and Joan Laporta tenures as barça presidents. Bartomeu is the one that took an organization that was making money like it was easy and turned it into that, and he's going to prison for it, btw. Joan Laporta started the lever thing as a way to stay competitive with the idea that a strong barça would make the search for new revenue streams easier. Again, it went poorly, but it made sense. In that sense, you are also wrong about the naming rights. It's not the same selling the naming rights as getting a sponsor for the stadium, which is what happened.
Yup here’s Barca’s cycle again. After a period of great domination, they go through a few years of crisis, and then they come back again. All the time. Say whatever you want but a club like Barca will never ever go under. Worst case scenario? They become privatized for billions and are owned by a state country who will pour hundreds of millions every year. That’s their worst case scenario. That tells you everything you need to know. In terms of the sporting aspect, Barca is not doing quite as bad as it is portrayed. They’ve always been in top 2 or top 3 even in their worse years, which means champions league football every year. Yes they might have not made it out of group stage for two years in a row, but that’s not really the end of the world unless you put the bar crazy high. They probably generate the most or 2nd or 3rd most revenue in the world. In comparison to other struggling legendary teams like juventus and man utd, Barca is doing fantastic. They’re at a level now in which at their worst, they’ll still finish in top 3 and probably make it to at least the knockout stages of CL, and if they’re lucky some academy graduates plus couple great signings could lift them up even higher. As long as they stay true to their main selling brand, winning with style and taking pride in winning that way, which is why majority of fans started following them, they’ll be fine. Bartomeu and rossell had started splashing cash for knuckleheads which made the team lose its way, which directly provoked most of their problems today. But I am confident the emergence of some masia graduates and a great coach who is experienced and confident enough will bring them great fortune. Even real madrid had their dark moments in the timeframe when perez wasn’t president. Happens to every team! Chelsea, man utd, juventus are all in a much worse state than Barca!
Barcelona is literally like a gambling addict that pawns off all his belongings and takes out payday loans to put it all on black at the roulette table....
They have 2 billion in debts and revenues means nothing if profit are low they migh make that much . They have spending to acvout for that are purely football like other sport division
200 mil is more than enough to finish top 4 in La Liga. They still have pull compared to the other top 4 contenders. Barca needs to understand that the Messi, Neymar era is long gone and they need to rebuild. Sell Araujo, De Jong and Lewa, play academy players and get top 4 for the next 5 years, maybe a cup or two. They cannot compete financially with the big boys at the moment and that is fine. If they don't understand that, Deportivo La Coruna is looking for a derby.
Bartomeu killed us and Laporta is bringing us back The levers are good in the long run Especially the espai barca And still not all money is given 40 mill from libero
Barca supporter here and I am appalled to see how this club has been run. Completely inept executive management. We can no longer blame Bartomeu for this, the responsibility now lies solely with Laporta. I don't care what his history is from his first term in the 2000s, he has ruined Barcelona for perhaps decades to come. I love seeing my club win trophies as much as the next guy, but the wise thing would have been to cut spending and rebuild through the youth system. Free transfers and academy products only until we're in the black and then only spending what we make. So we miss the CL for a year or a few. That's about to happen anyway and for much longer and much worse. This could have been an opportunity to reset and build a solid foundation for the future, instead we're about to enter an era when kids will grow up not knowing Barca was an elite club at one point.... And I still watch every game, faithfully. I guess the joke is on me.
Big facts: foreign sports teams were the first to put adv space on jerseys. As an American I thought it was cheap/tacky- so the ultimate sell out for ad space was a non American thing started by Europeans.
rumour is that Lenglet is on 500.000k a week and Frenkie de Jong is on 750.000K a week, with comparable salaries for pique, busquets, Alba, Ter Stegen, Griezman, couthinho, freakin Bartomeu
When you are bad and no where near the stature of your rival but still try to match Perez’s brilliance and keep up with your competition’s glamour. Last gen they tried keeping up with galacticos 2, this gen they have no money left to answer the mbappe move and will get owned for a generation.
I mean some of the wages they were giving out was just crazy on another level. They are going to have to sell several and build a team similarly to the way a Girona, Inter Milan and a Brighton does. They are going to have to accept they might not be able to compete like they have before and give the next manager time.
The old classic example is Chicago selling their street parking meter revenue rights for $1 billion in the the 90s because they were cash strapped. The problem? The deal was decades long and the group that bought it was estimated to have been in the green after 7 years
Nothing is going to happen to Barcelona. There are far too lany interests in the Catalan Nationalist movement to let it happen. And La Liga is content to allow them to register players with lever after lever.
The way I see it is that Laporta knows the club is cooked, and he basically wants to have one last hurrah with the CL or something like that and declare bankruptcy with the hope that some billionaire (like Newcastle's owners for example, or maybe someone like Mukesh Ambani) will see the success and bail the club out
I do not know how they were able to keep signing players. Kounde, Lewandowski, Gundogan, Cancelo, Felix, Roque… like, firstly, how were they allowed to sign these players and, second, why would these players WANT to go there to be part of the downfall of Barcelona?! They need to be forced to sell their players. It’s ridiculous. Like, they’ll make so much money back by selling these young players, but they can’t be allowed to keep them. They can’t pay them.
Bartomeu certainly started this financial crisis, but when they started to pull levers and get a quick fix, I knew it would end badly. But the solutions is sell expensive players and then endless amounts of LOAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAANS (with the hope of avoiding relegations, until better times)
I don't think people realise they had to pull the levers because there was no other options they did everything else beforehand also now with Laporte club has started to earn money again and get out of the financial struggles imo this video is way too late to the trend now the situation has been stabilized that means we are not losing money and even with all the struggles we won a double last season and we are competing for a second place in la liga maybe even a title with a bit of luck with a minimal budget while clubs like manu or Chelsea spend 100s of millions on players just to sit in 10th or 6th place club was run terribly ever since departure of ney but after laportes takeover after the pandemic club has been run brilliantly
TBH. Camp Nou was outdated and needed renovated. So that actually wasn't a bad decision. The fact that they waited so long to do it however... that is. I was in Barcelona in October and the only reason to even visit it is the fan shop which is probably over priced, and considering that there were like 20 stores near it that sell knock off Barca stuff at half the price...
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Bartomeu killed this club to the core. The way he spent the Neymar transfer was like a spolit child who never saw unlimited money before
Yes, and Laporte is burying it
LaPorte is going full "hold my beer" on that
Jup, way too many people praised laporta for his absolute MENTAL strategy of levers which sounded to any person with half a brain like a majorly bad idea.
Laporta had a great first stint. His second is just continuing what Bartomeu started. Putting Barca 6 feet under. @ia
As Barcelona Fan I can tell that Laporte Does not doing Better soon we may play in La Liga2 or lower 😂
Laporta burying it right now
So this is the real life version of how much I mess up teams in Football Manager.
Barcelona is in a worse state than you've ever done to a pixelated club
at the same time me: "In the last FFP period you made revenue of 836 million euro while only being allowed to make 5 million in debt...."
I cant help myself, my books are ALWAYS in check. And the biggest joy i can take away from this game is when PSG/Al Ahlil offers 250 million euros for my 24 year old columbian striker i found behind a 7/11 trash can and paid 5 euro and a pack of gum for. Which i have already replaced.
Twice.
laporta should send his barca save to zealand for sys
@@LiftandCoayou working for Daniel Levy?
The Camp Nou upgrades are an example of a good decision. The bad decision was not doing it sooner.
True it may of costed the clubs ticket sales for this season but was needed inevitably and the sooner tb better
If barca sell full house it makes per match over 3.5mil if the tickets are 35bucks each
They were going to do it around 2020, but then the pandemic, the hell surrounding Bartomeu, etc. delayed that
They were obviously counting on the European Super League happening. No other way the reckless spending can be explained.
I think this makes a lot of sense.
Don't count your eggs before they hatch!
Super league. Lol. Who the hell thought that was going to fly.
Wdym, it’s gonna happen whether you like it or not. The fans will concede and give way, UEFA certainly isn’t helping their case.
Soon come
Yeah. Explains why they're still working with their mortal enemies to make it happen, when even Juventus withdrew out of it.
Did you know that the new Camp Nou renovations (Espai Barca) have been in planning since 2013? Rosell never accepted the project and neither did Bartomeu. They really ruined the whole club
the socios along with them
And it will still be shit compared to the Bernabeu.
@@AlTarifshut up bro
The first time I played fm, back in fm2013, I played as Barcelona and didn’t really understand how to manage the finances- I got into terrible financial trouble, and they sacked me. Ever since, I’ve watched it play out irl and feel like somehow my failure in the game has jinxed the real-life club. And yet, the real-life situation is WAY WAY WORSE than what I did in fm.
did you atleast win trophies ?
@@justawarlord haha nope
We found him! It was you!!!
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hahaha@@That_Revenant_Guy
Kondogbia is from Central African Republic and played for Atletico for 3 years so I am pretty sure they know what Atletico is 😂😂 (but I see your point)
he was french when he played for athletico
@@justawarlord started playing for CAR in 2018 and joined Atletico in 2020
You can tell this man thinks Africa doesn’t have TV.
@@MatPocobo42the Central African Republic is literally the third most poor country of Africa, is not something crazy to say, they have an ANNUAL income of 460 USD
@@DiegoF1ores That doesn’t mean they can’t afford a TV. Being poor doesn’t equal Stone Age.
The disappointing thing is that the 'financial levers' thing was put to the club membership to a vote who passed it. So it's not simply a case of blaming Laporta and his board.
True.. but to be fair LaPorte was promising them Messi back to Barca when that happened.
laporta sold it to them as if there wasnt any other choice
@@davit368 What other choice?
Lullojo broke FM with buying players on the Never-Never (everything on future fees, nothing out of pocket). This is essentially how Barca managed the peak Mess era and the outrageous salaries of those outrageous players. The pandemic ruined Barca's plan to pay back long term and incurred ridiculous interest payments putting the club where they are now.
0:31 me in the presence of a fan
Damn, i just posted the same thing
I just don't understand why Barca felt the need to pull those levers to buy all these players they are giving high wages.
Why couldn't they accept letting everyone on big money leave and becoming a mid table team for a bit until they financially recovered. It's not like they would get relegated or anything. This squad can't even compete in the UCL
Because presidents are voted for and get elected on promises.
Like, "ill bring Messi back" kinda promises.
They should have kept a few key players and mainly use their youth setup to rebuild indeed and just focus on getting CL football yearly (still easy to do in LaLiga)
It's the football fan thing they want great players and won't accept being sevilla for a while watch Chelsea and United or the worst version of this schulke when u always wanna compete with ppl in better places then u you'll be trouble cuz someone will pay your checks
Braca fans thought winning the league would sort them so selling our future is fine @@aristaeus2514
A lot of it has to do with the fear of losing its massive global fanbase. The thought was that if it were just a 7th place team that didn't get into the Champions League consistently Barça would cease to be relevant outside of Spain and would never be able to reach its heights again. Obviously this logic has some problems (look at Man United and how popular they are lol).
11:00
Its also interesting too see that especially Laporta and Perez are so adamant to form a Super League.
One does it because "The world" is just not enough, one does it out of pure desperation (and because the world wouldnt be enough if they would be financially stable).
One just cant get enough of stacking cash on top of each other, one because they cant stop getting admonition letters.
I slightly disagree. Florentino Perez recognized that at some point, Real Madrid will not be able to compete for players nor keep them at the club with the amount of money that PL clubs have at their disposal through their TV deals and the money nation state-owned clubs have. Him pushing the super league is a way for him to generate a significant amount of revenue for the club that allows them to keep up with those clubs. This is why Florentino has achieved so much success at Madrid.
@@joncasec and what funny is PL can grow and do all that because they split TV money to all club almost the same percentage, the difference just their rangking in PL table. With that money, clubs can buy players and make their league competitive.
Meanwhile la liga give TV money privilege to Barca and Madrid for decades, meanwhile other club not get much. Those two clubs greedy make la liga not competitive and less enjoyable compare to PL. And now they complain PL get more money 😅
@@hills863 they certainly dug themselves into a corner 😅
@@joncaseci mean i wrote it very simplistic for "comedic" effect (...) but you are correct about Perez, although i generally disagree with extend of the current and future gap to the Prem.
Also, the Prem is able to grow that way because not only do they split revenue in a fair way, but the league itself can generate so much money and was always lucrative because Britain kept strong ties to its english speaking colonies. A different story for Spain. The reason why the Prem gets so much money is because their potential customer base/viewership is so monumentally big, english is the worlds language.
The important figures here are how much that is per week. 204mil, is just under 4million a week. For context.
Manchester City, United and Chelsea typically have wage bills around 5-6mil a week.
Barca and Madrid have typically been up around 8-10mil a week.
Selling the naming rights makes sense, everyone does it now. Its basically free money. Ashburton Grove sounds nice, but Emirates Stadium gives money.
Theres basically two things at play here imo.
1. Barca didn't think financial rules would ACTUALLY get enforced, especially not on them and Madrid. This led them to be confident in continuing to spend recklessly as they had done for years, thinking it wouldn't matter.
2. For more recent things, one the regs did hit, i think the level pulling could be reasoned as a trade off. Yes they lose future income, but they will gain large amounts (although, seemingly maybe no as much as they predicted) from the new stadium. So they pull the levers to enable them to continue at a steady level of expenditure, knowing that that lost future income will be out weighed by the increase in future income provided by the stadium.
Obviously, its all gone tits up, but I imagine that is a general thought process behind whats been happening.
I kinda disagree on selling the naming rights to an old stadium. Imagine Old Trafford, Anfield or the San Siro selling their rights. It usually happens with newer stadiums as fans aren't attached to the name.
@@withnail29ManU would sell those rights if the right offer came along, but I'm expecting them to wait because they wouldn't get much for it at the moment (companies generally don't like to be associated with abject failure). San Siro is actually owned by the Milan Council, and while they could try to sell naming rights, there's no way they could get anyone to use the new name - for example, when Inter play there it's called the Giuseppe Meazza. Any ownership group that tried to sell naming rights to Anfield would be run out of town with pitchforks, so they sold the naming rights to the new training complex ("the AXA").
@@paulie-gThe Glazers absolutely would do it, if doing so wouldn't risk them being murdered.
@@nicholastricarico2957 Yous lot have been threatening them for years now for this, that and the other. Probably safe to say they've learned to disregard it. Threats in Manc don't sound threatening, just funneh
@@paulie-g You understand I'm not a Manc, right? I'm not even an Englishman or a Manchester United fan. All I'm saying is that compared to other fanbases around the world, Man United fans have the backbone of a toothpick.
As a Real Madrid fan, I shall never stand for any slander against the savior of Barcelona, Laporte 😡
How can anyone defend LaPorte? He literally looked at the bad things Bartomeu did and said "hold my beer"
@@aristaeus2514that's the point.
@@aristaeus2514 thats the point. Real Madrid fans loved Bartomeu and if the replacement was Laporta then that's acceptable
@@aristaeus2514 Laporta saved this club shut up
@@japaizm great argument.. lets talk about it in few years from now
I think one of the core issues is how the club is run. They elect a president every four years. It encourages leadership that has a short-term focus. It's difficult to run a campaign on we're going to get spending under control and reduce salary expenditures. It's not sexy.
This is exacerbated by the different visions that the president and Xavi have. Xavi wants to put more focus on academy players, and the president wants to bring in the biggest names. Arguably Barcelona's best players right now are the youngest players like Lamine Yamal. If they leaned into that and Xavi's vision controlling spending would be a little easier. But Xavi is leaving at the end of the season.
That's not the issue you think it is. Bayern Munich does elections on a similar time table and yet has been profitable for 27 years and thinks long term as a business. The difference is in how transparent they are in their business with the fans who own the 50+1%. Your leadership needs to think short term and long term in order to win re-election, unless there is a lack of transparency. Barcelona has very little when it comes to their finances and elections. Bayern has a lot more than them. The ultras keep Bayern management in check. Barcelona, not at all, because they just don't know.
good point! maybe the club would benefit from a more indirect form of democracy. Like the socios not electing the president but some sort of 'club parliament' of knowledgeable representatives which then has the power to appoint a president
@@Zarinus0That's not unusual, Liverpool used to do this back when fans held shares. To be fair, pointing to Bayern is like congratulating the Sultan of Brunei on being in the black. It's factually correct as far as it goes, but there are, shall we say, reasons why Bayern have as much money and profit as they do. It's harder to overspend when you can already sign all the best players in the league, double their wages and not be bothered financially.
Another summer of "de Jong to Manchester United" rumors here we go...
interesting. In germany there are always rumors of de Jong to Bayern since 2019 LUL
I am about 100% sure that considering the way that everything has gone, he would be more willing to go back to Willem II on .5% of the salary he's on now than go to Manchester United. Which, fair.
We are witnessing Zealand lose his mind.
Papa Perez is giving me mafia vibes. What a boss.
He knows who to run a business. The other company he runs is like one of the biggest construction contractors in the entire planet. Man speaks money and as a Barca fan I gotta give credit where credit’s due
You gotta respect Barcelona for finding sponsor in Spotify, who is also a money losing operation
Now they want to get out of their deal with Nike, to sign with Puma, who would pay them more than Nike does, per year.
@@Blanca1205where did u get that they want puma
i think posting these vids as a podcast on spotify would be great
the info here is actually wrong.. it includes deferred salaries of players who are not even at club and many other variables.. come summer barcelona will actually buy more players.. they are leading in europe in terms income received through match tickets, sponsors etc.. they also haven't received alot of money from levers they pulled last year.
Americans show up late to the football conversation & say “If you go to some kid in central Africa & they won’t know who Atletico Madrid is”😂😂😂
He sounds very ignorant 😂
Dude don’t act like you don’t know what he meant.
I think the board got super spooked by the group stage exit in the 21/22 Champions League (and then getting knocked out in the quarters of the Europa League). That was the first season without Messi. They reacted by rolling the dice, leveraging the future income and putting all the chips on the 22/23 summer signings of Lewandowski, Raphinha and Kounde. I think I remember hearing Barca had budgeted on then reaching the Champions League quarters in 22/23 as a minimum and yet they got knocked out at the group stage again.
If you take a high risk strategy to try and turn your fortunes around in the short term, you have to face the more penal consequences when the dice doesn't roll your way
Zealand is the kid that spoke through the fan to pretend he had a robot voice. Im the same
Laporta still wants the big names at a broke establishment
bruh, no more chocolate turtles???
this was always going to happen, its the natural outcome, the wages and transfer fees being paid is unsustainable, there will be a massive reckoning in football sooner or later
Barça is owned by his fans and they had a presidential election in 2021 when they already know that Messi was leaving because they didn't have money to do the renewal. Fans had to choose between doing levers and spend money that they don't have to keep the status that they have to attract players like Lewy or Kounde or Gundo. Or try to cut the spends and risk of being 2 or 3 years out of champions league/european competition and lose the big status that they had. Laporta wins by majority and all is history
It was funny 16 years ago and it still is now.
just last night i watched a video in spanish titled “CÓMO SE DESTRUYÓ EL MEJOR EQUIPO DE LA HISTORIA” in which there were things going on behind the scenes that we didn’t know and in reality, when barca won the treble in 2015, the club was actually in chaos. after watching that video with added context, it’s honestly a miracle that we managed to remain in the top for so long. and then, after terrible financial decisions through the years we could’ve gone back to la masia ways and try to rebuild, but instead laporta finished selling the club’s soul in a deal which i knew back then could be very dangerous for barcelona, meanwhile the other fucking fans celebrated it. i still considered myself a barca fan and i still do, but it’s not the same passion as before because this isn’t the same club as before. as a barcelona fan who didn’t really care about the sport till 2016 (i was still pretty young) but then became a football nerd after watching messi, this hurts. i missed the last UCL that barca won and who knows if the club has any future at all
I have the same feeling, and me being a fan is deeply rooted in the Johan Cruijff connection, being Ajax fan as my home nation club. I always loved and supported Barca almost equally as much as Ajax.
Nowadays though, I cant.. they abandoned all and I have not celebrated last years League title because I knew it wasnt going to be enough to solve the problems.
They literally will have to win every year and win the Champions League 5 times in the next 8 years or so
00:31 Zealand.exe stopped working
We all know they need LOANSSSS
It was all Bartomeu. If he was never president we would never have been put in this situation
LaPorte is only making it worse though, and to be honest he is literally trying to do worse than Bartomeu.
Pointing fingers to Bartomeu is quite naive or wilfully blind.
Bartomeu definitely was bad but this has been building in the background at Barca for decades, Bartomeu just accelerated the inevitable
This happens when you sell your shirt, merchandise, tv, stadium, and ticket rights for short-term gains, without a long-term plan.
Get Gordon Ramsay in there, maybe he can save it
Does lollujo run Barcelona? They seem to spend money like him thinking that a soft drink sponsorship will be announced to clear the debt.
Love that Las Vegas Lights shirt! Ive the pink one but theyre all quite nice kits!
This video will age like poisoned milk
0:30 is the content we're here for
Sounds like Barcelona needs some Dave Ramsay
Bruh its so sad they even had to sell grass to help them out 😂
la liga president said that la liga was the most financially stable league in europe. I laughed at this seeing barca in the state it is in.
we all know what barca need…
a smart accountant
5:21 nah that's Pele
*Makes decisions that are good gor money now, but bad for money in the future* Zeeland: "That's so stupid, you're gonna need the money in the future!"
*Makes decisions that are bad for money now, but good for money in the future*. Zeeland "They're incompetent! You're not making as much money as you need"
I don't know what you expect them to do tbh.
This is such fantastic content.
Repping my city’s club Las Vegas lights I see youuu 👀
WHEN YOU FUCKING SEE IT
They should try sell Lewandowski to Saudi.
With the kinda form he is in, nobody would pay more than 50 mil. for him. Which isn't that much money. Also we CANNOT fill that natural striker void in current market. It would be like shooting ourselves on the foot.
Sell some deadwood, and LOOOAAAANNNSSSS
The damage bartomeu did might take a very long time to repair but with the right choices maybe they can recover
And thats the problem with LaPorte.. he isnt fixing it, he just borrows money to ducttape it all.
Tbh they should get rid of these stupid elections and get a proper president in that can focus on the long term instead.
Ok, but what food did you order? I hate cliffhangers.
Its unbelievable that they are still paying Messi now.
This is how football titans fall.
Barca is financially stable club. FFP is whole different thing in LaLiga. Levers they pulled made club reduce debt, short-term debt to turn into long-term. Club can spend money, but are not allowed by FFP. They reduced spending from 700 to over 400m€. Club doesn't have to go to 204m€, club can still sign players with 1/4 rule (or 60% rule in 2024). Club selling parts of Bstudios is why Bstudios was created for many years ago. Same goes for BLM. Those aren't club shares, those are companies created by club for it's shares to be sold to investors. And it worked as charm, BLM actually raised market income, merchandise income (first in the world). Barcelona sold nothing of club's shares.
They need to keep reducing cost of squad, which is counted for all selections in all sports Barcelona plays. Club is getting closer to getting to 1/1 rule (sell for 100, buy for 100).
You saying Florentino better running the job. He also sold to Libero finances, he sold part of stadium income, he sold TV right income also. What BArca done with levers, Real already did it. Remember selling 100% of tv rights in 2000s for 10 years for 1bn€.
To understand why all the fuss about BArca is you have to understand how Spanish & Catalan media work. Spanish media are close to Real Madrid, not reporting anything bad about them, and bashing Barca.
Catalan media on the other hand are always bashing Barca, because they want to have control withing when they had Rosell and Barto. So all these stories about Barca come from those media, which makes club's image bad, which in fact is everything other teams done. All teams signed TV rights levers, and RM also did levers.
If you want to know more, you can contact me and I'll introduce you to all FFP problems club is facing.
a lot of missinformation here. Or poorly understood one, at the best. Barça Studios is just a bunch of nothing that has various businesses associated with barça trademark such as concerts at spotify camp nou, NFT and rights to do docuseries. Most of them provide 0 stream revenue to the club. And Barcelona actually hasn't sold all of it, just 49%, with the idea to make that company public (spectacular failure btw). Also, we have to clearly distinguish betweet Josep María Bartomeu and Joan Laporta tenures as barça presidents. Bartomeu is the one that took an organization that was making money like it was easy and turned it into that, and he's going to prison for it, btw. Joan Laporta started the lever thing as a way to stay competitive with the idea that a strong barça would make the search for new revenue streams easier. Again, it went poorly, but it made sense. In that sense, you are also wrong about the naming rights. It's not the same selling the naming rights as getting a sponsor for the stadium, which is what happened.
Yup here’s Barca’s cycle again. After a period of great domination, they go through a few years of crisis, and then they come back again. All the time. Say whatever you want but a club like Barca will never ever go under. Worst case scenario? They become privatized for billions and are owned by a state country who will pour hundreds of millions every year. That’s their worst case scenario. That tells you everything you need to know.
In terms of the sporting aspect, Barca is not doing quite as bad as it is portrayed. They’ve always been in top 2 or top 3 even in their worse years, which means champions league football every year. Yes they might have not made it out of group stage for two years in a row, but that’s not really the end of the world unless you put the bar crazy high. They probably generate the most or 2nd or 3rd most revenue in the world. In comparison to other struggling legendary teams like juventus and man utd, Barca is doing fantastic. They’re at a level now in which at their worst, they’ll still finish in top 3 and probably make it to at least the knockout stages of CL, and if they’re lucky some academy graduates plus couple great signings could lift them up even higher. As long as they stay true to their main selling brand, winning with style and taking pride in winning that way, which is why majority of fans started following them, they’ll be fine. Bartomeu and rossell had started splashing cash for knuckleheads which made the team lose its way, which directly provoked most of their problems today. But I am confident the emergence of some masia graduates and a great coach who is experienced and confident enough will bring them great fortune. Even real madrid had their dark moments in the timeframe when perez wasn’t president. Happens to every team! Chelsea, man utd, juventus are all in a much worse state than Barca!
13:05 I dunno if you came with it on the fly or if it is a scripted phrase, but goddamn that is impressive either way!
47 levers😂 man is in love with foden more
Barcelona is running from their debts. Z is running from me. We're not the same.
hey! my girlfriend has that massage gun!
Barcelona is literally like a gambling addict that pawns off all his belongings and takes out payday loans to put it all on black at the roulette table....
I guess none of those Bank CEOs is a Real Madrid fan 😅
When they were pulling all these levers in summer 2022 this outcome seemed inevitable
Bartomeu is to blame for this
pretty sure Barca was banking on Super League money bailing them out
Nice Lights kit.
Love this new channel!
Here is your new save... 😉
Barcelona made 800 million euros last year, 4th in the world. Id love to explain most of this to you when you have time
They have 2 billion in debts and revenues means nothing if profit are low they migh make that much . They have spending to acvout for that are purely football like other sport division
@@myawy1 im aware, thanks though
800 million in revenue....But let's talk profits.....account sheet...deduct salaries plus expenses you get a real picture
these videos really remind me of armchair history! Maybe a comeback is on the cards?
200 mil is more than enough to finish top 4 in La Liga. They still have pull compared to the other top 4 contenders. Barca needs to understand that the Messi, Neymar era is long gone and they need to rebuild. Sell Araujo, De Jong and Lewa, play academy players and get top 4 for the next 5 years, maybe a cup or two. They cannot compete financially with the big boys at the moment and that is fine. If they don't understand that, Deportivo La Coruna is looking for a derby.
Would singing the loans song out of context be a worse solution for them to try 😅
bro is just straight up wrong
Bartomeu killed us and Laporta is bringing us back
The levers are good in the long run
Especially the espai barca
And still not all money is given 40 mill from libero
phenomenal segue
It was not the levers it was bartumeu
It was bartumeu who pulled them.
@@TheNotSoFakeNews are you sure i was pretty sure it was laporta
@@markhurford2761 well he has been doing a lot of that as well, and probably getting more extreme with it
Barca supporter here and I am appalled to see how this club has been run. Completely inept executive management. We can no longer blame Bartomeu for this, the responsibility now lies solely with Laporta. I don't care what his history is from his first term in the 2000s, he has ruined Barcelona for perhaps decades to come. I love seeing my club win trophies as much as the next guy, but the wise thing would have been to cut spending and rebuild through the youth system. Free transfers and academy products only until we're in the black and then only spending what we make. So we miss the CL for a year or a few. That's about to happen anyway and for much longer and much worse. This could have been an opportunity to reset and build a solid foundation for the future, instead we're about to enter an era when kids will grow up not knowing Barca was an elite club at one point.... And I still watch every game, faithfully. I guess the joke is on me.
Barcelona was run by Lollujo?
Messi is involved in Barça's mess.
Big facts: foreign sports teams were the first to put adv space on jerseys. As an American I thought it was cheap/tacky- so the ultimate sell out for ad space was a non American thing started by Europeans.
rumour is that Lenglet is on 500.000k a week and Frenkie de Jong is on 750.000K a week, with comparable salaries for pique, busquets, Alba, Ter Stegen, Griezman, couthinho, freakin Bartomeu
The craziest thing is De Jong being on 700k per week😂
This is not true
When you are bad and no where near the stature of your rival but still try to match Perez’s brilliance and keep up with your competition’s glamour. Last gen they tried keeping up with galacticos 2, this gen they have no money left to answer the mbappe move and will get owned for a generation.
I mean some of the wages they were giving out was just crazy on another level. They are going to have to sell several and build a team similarly to the way a Girona, Inter Milan and a Brighton does. They are going to have to accept they might not be able to compete like they have before and give the next manager time.
He’s talking but all I’m hearing is how Nigeria is being run. It’s too similar
The old classic example is Chicago selling their street parking meter revenue rights for $1 billion in the the 90s because they were cash strapped. The problem? The deal was decades long and the group that bought it was estimated to have been in the green after 7 years
thanks for the reality check I'm gonna go cry now and hope at least Gavi stays at Barcelona
Nothing is going to happen to Barcelona. There are far too lany interests in the Catalan Nationalist movement to let it happen. And La Liga is content to allow them to register players with lever after lever.
The way I see it is that Laporta knows the club is cooked, and he basically wants to have one last hurrah with the CL or something like that and declare bankruptcy with the hope that some billionaire (like Newcastle's owners for example, or maybe someone like Mukesh Ambani) will see the success and bail the club out
Well barca doing barca things hahaha i’m an madrid fan since day 1 but i would never imagine that barca destroys themselves so much as they do.
They only need to cut their spending in half if they want to register new players.
They can just keep the squad as is or promote a youth player or 2.
I do not know how they were able to keep signing players. Kounde, Lewandowski, Gundogan, Cancelo, Felix, Roque… like, firstly, how were they allowed to sign these players and, second, why would these players WANT to go there to be part of the downfall of Barcelona?! They need to be forced to sell their players. It’s ridiculous. Like, they’ll make so much money back by selling these young players, but they can’t be allowed to keep them. They can’t pay them.
Z is sponsored by bitcoin guys
Bartomeu certainly started this financial crisis, but when they started to pull levers and get a quick fix, I knew it would end badly. But the solutions is sell expensive players and then endless amounts of LOAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAANS (with the hope of avoiding relegations, until better times)
I don't think people realise they had to pull the levers because there was no other options they did everything else beforehand also now with Laporte club has started to earn money again and get out of the financial struggles imo this video is way too late to the trend now the situation has been stabilized that means we are not losing money and even with all the struggles we won a double last season and we are competing for a second place in la liga maybe even a title with a bit of luck with a minimal budget while clubs like manu or Chelsea spend 100s of millions on players just to sit in 10th or 6th place club was run terribly ever since departure of ney but after laportes takeover after the pandemic club has been run brilliantly
How much longer until the Oil money comes knocking?
This does bring a smile to my face. Stronger and more stringent FFP is good for the sport. 🙏 FORZA INTER 💙🖤
How you just gonna throw city under the bus like that
TBH. Camp Nou was outdated and needed renovated. So that actually wasn't a bad decision. The fact that they waited so long to do it however... that is.
I was in Barcelona in October and the only reason to even visit it is the fan shop which is probably over priced, and considering that there were like 20 stores near it that sell knock off Barca stuff at half the price...