Zealand, mate, this whole channel concept and production style is so perfectly fitting to you and your personality. Thank you for giving this a go and giving us YT folks the quality of a Zealand topic deep-dive without needing to watch your streams.
Dude I swear I couldn't put my finger on why I love this channel so much, and you just explained it perfectly. It exactly fills those days where I can't make to the first 1-2 hours of the stream.
It's ok Zealand, here in the Netherlands we also have no idea what these guys are thinking. Bergwijn and Ziyech are in the same situation as Memphis and it just makes no sense.
Yeah we here in the Netherlands are so exasperated too. He also said Dani Alves and Benjamin Mendy are his friends too. Absolutely unhinged. Wijnaldum was also on fire, equating a benefits scandal in the Netherlands to human rights abuses in Saudi Arabia. The benefits scandal absolutely caused a lot of suffering, but it's not quite the same as hanging people for being gay, Gini.
This situation kinda reminds me of the Neymar/Dani Alves situation where Neymar paid a fine so Dani Alves would serve less time in jail, like dude what the hell???
@@anthonykaruri6430 yeah, Neymar payed Daniel Alves fine not once but twice, yesterday he payed 1 million euros só Dani would be set free, and no one is talking about this for some reason
Neymar's dad helped him- and according to Alves' lawyers they sent the money ($150k) back to Neymar Sr. because Dani was proclaiming his innocence and once found guilty, they requested it back.
Dutchie here. The situation is a bit baffling. I mean yeah everyone can understand standing up for friends, but they are implying they are fine with the criminal activities if there is no further contextual frame to go on. So he gets asked, you get this logical but somewhat dodgy defense and I mean yeah the question at the end is just 'but why?' like said in the video.
In the Netherlands we also think that Depay is een beetje een vreemde gozer en that he just moet z’n bek een keer houden. And we think that’s beautiful
When you find out that someone is bad/evil, you have three choices: 1. Love them even more because you are equally evil. 2. Double down because you never matured enough to be able to change your opinions when new facts come out. 3. Adjust your point of view. Like a grown-up.
Promes update :in Russian media they alledge he is now "wanted" in Russia for tax evasion (a small amount) , they might file an extradition request to the UAE , making them have to choose between extradition to either the netherlands or russia. In russia he will ofcourse pay a fine and then keep playing for Spartak. Interesting
The typical wannabe gangster rapper turned footballer who pads his statistics against Luxembourg and Gibraltar. Truly, this kid man... I can't even comprehend that they even dare to compare him to van Nistelrooij or van Persie in The Netherlands.
Depay is weird to me. Promes has been proved to smuggle drugs, being involved with gangs and hurting people, why on Gods green earth would you hang out with him and trying to paint him as some sort of victim. What kind of message is that?
Memphis Depay is just a weirdo. Always coming out in defense of sex pests just because they weren't convicted, plus he's been a friend of Quincy Promes for ages. They even used to rap together. Weirdo behavior all around.
Who thinks Zealand should run for US presidency as an independant? Got his head on straight. Pretty rare and unique quality these days. Especially for a streamer/internet celebrity. His first order of business after being sworn in should be to mandate teaching kids FM in high school and watch Zealandism. Looooaaaaans.......
I think that Depay is talking like loyality above all. So he advocates to druglords and warlords think a like hurt manlyhood, he might be in on whole "blood in blood out" thing. So ähm, Luis Rubiales, he is now also a fugitive criminal. It happens fast these days.
We (Scotland 🏴) play the Netherlands 🇳🇱 in a friendly today (Friday) and could do with depay not playing. We need some good juju going into the euros.
As someone from Belgium, “gang” culture is very prominent here and openly backing your friends who in this case is convicted is very common and seen as a form of gain in streetcred
Depay who comes from this rough drug related background tried to back his friend and as i said its very common so for him it was probably pretty normal
And what you said about learning how to manage your social media is was Depay needed here foreshore he could of back him if he wanted to privately (something he probably did) but doing it publicly was not it
The even worse part about his posts were that he also mentioned dani alves and mendy.. With the Promes extradition, it will most likely not happen. Because suddenly Promes has a case against him in Russia for tax evasion for about 40k Euros. So they asked for an extradition, he can then pay the amount and continue playing football.
I think this is far beyond than just Memphis damaging his own image. Promes tried to smuggle a metric f*ck ton of illegal drugs and stabbed his, who was it, his brother? Cousin? Like, these are known facts. I don't care how much of a "good guy" Promes is bts, those are serious offences. They are not just a couple mishaps someone would accidentally do with good intentions in mind. I mean, if your closest friend would stab a family member of theirs and try to smuggle hard drugs, would you immidiately go and say "It's ok bro don't worry you'll be fine I have your back."?
Hey z Theyre people too Promes couldve been stitched up or set up. And its also like - theyre kind of untouchable. So like who gives a shit if people are upset. Whereas maybe his friend feels isolated in russia, has been set up etc.
Memphis needs to keep his mouth shut at times. Love him as a football player, and wish he had more success at United, but some of the things he says just leave me scratching my head. It's like he takes his thoughts from the Andy Tate School of Masculinity or something.
@@FunkyGhostHD true but for me it cancels out all the times where he should have just passed to a teammate/ give an assist instead of trying trickery and losing a ball
Wait, you interpreted this video as someone telling you to hate an individual mentioned in it? Or you weren't serious and it was meant as hyperbole/joke?
He's a public figure however, that changes everything, he is a role model and bears public responsibility , since he is a public figure I'd say it's a big deal for Dutch football
I'm shocked at how everyone else is apparently shocked, because sticking by your friends when they do fucked up things seems completely rational to me.
One of my best friends from the military stabbed another mutual friend in the chest. We stopped hanging out with him, his wife divorced him and took the kids. About 6 months after the incident he took hi own life. Just because someone does something that is condemnable I don't think they are irredeemable.
Their actions once you make it clear that you do not want to associate with them anymore are not your responsibility. You are not tied to a person just because they might hurt themselves
They are friends Depay hasn't done anything wrong. By Zealand's logic everyone who knows a convicted criminal they should never ever take a picture with them. The hysteria isn't necessary.
You can support someone in a bad situation and still wish they made better choices. You're allowed to feel bad for someone you once knew or thought you knew that ended up doing bad things later in life. Memphis basically grew up with Promes & is posting memories of a better time, before Promes fell in to the crowd that he did. As much as we all hate criminals, they all still have family and friends that wish for their well-being while understanding that the person in question has to be punished for what they did. But then again, the internet is not known for being rational or nuanced
@@liamjones9115Yes it is, because people will also judge you based on who you associate with. So when you hang around with a convicted drug smuggler, it shows you don’t care, as well as the company you keep
Omg Depay should be publicly flogged for taking some pictures with a friend who has serious issues. In fact he should go to prison also. That would be the only course of action to be taken.
So what Depay did was post a picture with someone guilty of crimes. And? Unless you are terminally online, I don't see an issue here. It is a nothing story, ginned up by lazy sports journalists.
@@augusto2006-amg it isn't even woke, so much as it is just strange. I think it is more of an americanism of his, to live so deeply embedded in media culture, that this, to him at least, is relevant
@theblatantaussie1530 Yeah now they're going to ruin Memphis for doing basically nothing significant. They're acting as if he's Promes's lawyer or something
Promes is a pro baller, a role model for children. Some crimes you say. He tried to stabbed his cousin over a family dispute. Bought 2000kg of cocaine to let children sell it on the street. Those are more than some crimes my dude.
@@pkleendert he is an athlete. In what world does he need to be a role model? Fathers are role models, not coked up ball chasers. Only in fatherless communities would this be a concern.
Zealand, mate, this whole channel concept and production style is so perfectly fitting to you and your personality. Thank you for giving this a go and giving us YT folks the quality of a Zealand topic deep-dive without needing to watch your streams.
Z's a shitposter at heart
Dude I swear I couldn't put my finger on why I love this channel so much, and you just explained it perfectly. It exactly fills those days where I can't make to the first 1-2 hours of the stream.
It's ok Zealand, here in the Netherlands we also have no idea what these guys are thinking. Bergwijn and Ziyech are in the same situation as Memphis and it just makes no sense.
They are all fkn losers, always were. Never liked memphis & co. Cant wait till they’re gone off my national team
Why what have they done? Same thing.
Shown support for promes?
Bonkers if so.
@@NeilLewis77 Yep. Ziyech even flew to Russia to visit Promes, during a war🫥 Although I suppose he wasn't officially convicted yet.
@@Avioto haha bloody hell.
"You can tell a man who boozes by the company he chooses and the pig got up and slowly walked away"
@@Avioto Homies for life are homies for life.
Yeah we here in the Netherlands are so exasperated too. He also said Dani Alves and Benjamin Mendy are his friends too. Absolutely unhinged.
Wijnaldum was also on fire, equating a benefits scandal in the Netherlands to human rights abuses in Saudi Arabia. The benefits scandal absolutely caused a lot of suffering, but it's not quite the same as hanging people for being gay, Gini.
That thing by Depay about the outside world not understanding was correctly translated, no it doesn't make much sense in Dutch either
Memphis The 🥧
Edit: I watched the video again. Can't stop hearing it. 1:12
Memphis the guy
Memphis the 3.14159265358979
😂😂😂😂 @@DrZaius3141
Memphis the Thai 🇹🇭
Quincy Proms
This situation kinda reminds me of the Neymar/Dani Alves situation where Neymar paid a fine so Dani Alves would serve less time in jail, like dude what the hell???
crazy how quickly that was swept under the rug too, with little to no media coverage!
Wait, what?
@@anthonykaruri6430 yeah, Neymar payed Daniel Alves fine not once but twice, yesterday he payed 1 million euros só Dani would be set free, and no one is talking about this for some reason
Neymar's dad helped him- and according to Alves' lawyers they sent the money ($150k) back to Neymar Sr. because Dani was proclaiming his innocence and once found guilty, they requested it back.
@@othavio1000 I genuinely never heard of that😳
Dutchie here. The situation is a bit baffling. I mean yeah everyone can understand standing up for friends, but they are implying they are fine with the criminal activities if there is no further contextual frame to go on. So he gets asked, you get this logical but somewhat dodgy defense and I mean yeah the question at the end is just 'but why?' like said in the video.
In the Netherlands we also think that Depay is een beetje een vreemde gozer en that he just moet z’n bek een keer houden. And we think that’s beautiful
bro had me using google translate but I agree he's always been a bit odd lol
When you find out that someone is bad/evil, you have three choices:
1. Love them even more because you are equally evil.
2. Double down because you never matured enough to be able to change your opinions when new facts come out.
3. Adjust your point of view. Like a grown-up.
4. Condemn their actions but love them from a far
@@sie11pervan Does this not fall under option 3
@@jordylont1879 technically?
Memphis is one of those people on FB who would post/comment positive things about Greenwood because he's "innocent".
Depay has been a little too friendly about Promes for the entire time it was even rumoured
Promes update :in Russian media they alledge he is now "wanted" in Russia for tax evasion (a small amount) , they might file an extradition request to the UAE , making them have to choose between extradition to either the netherlands or russia. In russia he will ofcourse pay a fine and then keep playing for Spartak. Interesting
Your UVA BBall jersey being the same colors as Holland's training kits is clearly implicit support of Memphis' posts.
The typical wannabe gangster rapper turned footballer who pads his statistics against Luxembourg and Gibraltar. Truly, this kid man... I can't even comprehend that they even dare to compare him to van Nistelrooij or van Persie in The Netherlands.
Careful your bias is showing
@@KingChaddii Yes, and?
@sie11pervan lol know what fair play at least you ain't tryna hide it
@@KingChaddiiits not a bias if it is the truth tjo
@@KingChaddii honestly, it's a bias everyone should have. No one real should want their kids looking up to Memphis, Promes, Ziyech and such.
Fun fact: he actually posted pictures of him with a cat (a liger (which is a lion/tiger hybrid)) and got criticism for it from animal right groups.
Get this man a competent social media manager asap😭🙏
maybe depay is actually a prison abolitionist with a really weird way of saying it
Depay is weird to me. Promes has been proved to smuggle drugs, being involved with gangs and hurting people, why on Gods green earth would you hang out with him and trying to paint him as some sort of victim. What kind of message is that?
"That's not a stance, that's just being stupid" lmao
How many chocolate turtles could Zealand fit on his forehead?
You are like the moistcritikal of football
They are even both Florida men from Tampa
for real
that is so on point
Memphis Depay is just a weirdo. Always coming out in defense of sex pests just because they weren't convicted, plus he's been a friend of Quincy Promes for ages. They even used to rap together. Weirdo behavior all around.
You pronounce the 'mes' in Promes like english 'mess' in 'what a mess!!' or like the 'mes' in Messi!
Mes means knife in dutch. He tried to stab his cousin. Coincidence?👀
@@pkleenderthe didn’t try. He was CONVICTED of stabbing
Memphis goodbye
This may be the main channel some day
it is clearly that they are selected for their football qualities not their intellect😂😂
Memphis Depay Got Triggered By Charles Barkley. That Says Enough
Isn't his last name pronounced like "Promise" not "Prohms" ?
Yes, thats a better way to pronounce
Pro-mess, but yea that's closer
he doesn't stop being human, like its just a light sentence anyway 😂😂😭😭
Memphis has a pretty good history of supporting his friends who have fallen ill of the law (to really minimize it)
As always excellent stance on the matter from our great host.
His therapist had been on a win streak recently.
As a dutchie, I wish your video would be displayed before the match tomorrow!!
Who thinks Zealand should run for US presidency as an independant? Got his head on straight. Pretty rare and unique quality these days. Especially for a streamer/internet celebrity. His first order of business after being sworn in should be to mandate teaching kids FM in high school and watch Zealandism. Looooaaaaans.......
Zealand, if you've not heard of it, take a look for a BBC Radio Show called Fighting Talk on which you'd be a great panellist.
I think that Depay is talking like loyality above all. So he advocates to druglords and warlords think a like hurt manlyhood, he might be in on whole "blood in blood out" thing.
So ähm, Luis Rubiales, he is now also a fugitive criminal. It happens fast these days.
Ofc he will choose his friend over randoms on the internet, is this even a question
This is one of the reasons why i havent really cared about the national team as much as someone from the netherlands. Its hard to root for these guys.
We (Scotland 🏴) play the Netherlands 🇳🇱 in a friendly today (Friday) and could do with depay not playing. We need some good juju going into the euros.
This reminds me like Mogul Mail but for Futbol.
Sometimes I think footballers, like people, just don’t think before they speak
As someone from Belgium,
“gang” culture is very prominent here and openly backing your friends who in this case is convicted is very common and seen as a form of gain in streetcred
Depay who comes from this rough drug related background tried to back his friend and as i said its very common so for him it was probably pretty normal
And what you said about learning how to manage your social media is was Depay needed here foreshore he could of back him if he wanted to privately (something he probably did) but doing it publicly was not it
The even worse part about his posts were that he also mentioned dani alves and mendy..
With the Promes extradition, it will most likely not happen. Because suddenly Promes has a case against him in Russia for tax evasion for about 40k Euros. So they asked for an extradition, he can then pay the amount and continue playing football.
Depay is probably involved too hahaha
I'm buying Promes on my save to get that extra income from boosted sales 😂😂😂
A idea for a video or for a zelandism is the election for President of FC Porto, where Andre Villas Boas is running.
The green is back!! Yesssss
Being good at kicking a ball does not imply that they are intelligent. If anything, often it is the opposite.
It’s been pretty clear for years that Depay is a bellend. Good on his day but never great.
Memphis Dewhy
But Run
Honestly I think everyone wishes they had a friend like Memphis. Such a supportive guy lmao
Seriously, what's the harm besides damaging Depay's own image?
I think this is far beyond than just Memphis damaging his own image. Promes tried to smuggle a metric f*ck ton of illegal drugs and stabbed his, who was it, his brother? Cousin? Like, these are known facts. I don't care how much of a "good guy" Promes is bts, those are serious offences. They are not just a couple mishaps someone would accidentally do with good intentions in mind. I mean, if your closest friend would stab a family member of theirs and try to smuggle hard drugs, would you immidiately go and say "It's ok bro don't worry you'll be fine I have your back."?
@@FunkyGhostHD that would be the situation regardless of sharing the photo or not. Who is the photo on twitter harming? If Is Memphis that's on him.
I don’t see get the harm posting a flick with promes
lmao my theory is that memphis isn’t real. he’s a collective fever dream we’re all having, because he just does the weirdest shit, like? 😭
Lol yeah when you let them do it themselves like they used to so much chaos ensues
Not really that surprising, the guy has been a PR nightmare for years
Hey z
Theyre people too
Promes couldve been stitched up or set up.
And its also like - theyre kind of untouchable. So like who gives a shit if people are upset.
Whereas maybe his friend feels isolated in russia, has been set up etc.
Pro-mes mate 1:39
He's trying as hard as he can not to reach the Dutch scoring record...
Quincy Pro-mis
Memphis DeWhy
Quincy trying to feed the homies and y'all hating smh
Bro is trying to feed the homies cocaine 😭
@@Ren_1090 😂😂😂
Memphis needs to keep his mouth shut at times. Love him as a football player, and wish he had more success at United, but some of the things he says just leave me scratching my head. It's like he takes his thoughts from the Andy Tate School of Masculinity or something.
He isnt even a good football player bro
@@gijsw8681 Okay
@@gijsw8681I agree with op hundred percent, but c'mon he had his moments.
@@FunkyGhostHD true but for me it cancels out all the times where he should have just passed to a teammate/ give an assist instead of trying trickery and losing a ball
Because Memphis is and has been a crackhead ever since the PSV days
what did depay say? where is the link to the article? sources? all i am seeing is zealand telling me who to hate.
Look at the screen while watching the video
i am sorry i meant to say "what did depay post?"
Wait, you interpreted this video as someone telling you to hate an individual mentioned in it? Or you weren't serious and it was meant as hyperbole/joke?
This guys a snake
Memphis just showing love to the TRAP GOD🙏🏽
Memphis is a good friend. No big deal.
He's a public figure however, that changes everything, he is a role model and bears public responsibility , since he is a public figure I'd say it's a big deal for Dutch football
I'm shocked at how everyone else is apparently shocked, because sticking by your friends when they do fucked up things seems completely rational to me.
One of my best friends from the military stabbed another mutual friend in the chest. We stopped hanging out with him, his wife divorced him and took the kids. About 6 months after the incident he took hi own life. Just because someone does something that is condemnable I don't think they are irredeemable.
Their actions once you make it clear that you do not want to associate with them anymore are not your responsibility. You are not tied to a person just because they might hurt themselves
In the video, Zealand described multiple times how you can defend your friendship without making excuses for terrible actions.
Memphis Depay deserves to get shit on for scoring on Inter in the 87th minute. Me and my homies hate Memphis Depay. Forza Inter ⚫️🔵
Me and all my homies love Memphis Depay. Forza Juve 😂🖤🤍
Dude really should have shut his mouth.
They are friends Depay hasn't done anything wrong. By Zealand's logic everyone who knows a convicted criminal they should never ever take a picture with them. The hysteria isn't necessary.
If you’re friends with someone who smuggled literal ton of cocaine, it says a lot about you, and not for the better…
@@Tranquilz0r So because you happen to know someone who has done something wrong it's an indictment on you. Ok Buddy.
@@liamjones9115no mate just don’t publicly reminisce about your friendship you soft bastard 😂
You can support someone in a bad situation and still wish they made better choices. You're allowed to feel bad for someone you once knew or thought you knew that ended up doing bad things later in life. Memphis basically grew up with Promes & is posting memories of a better time, before Promes fell in to the crowd that he did. As much as we all hate criminals, they all still have family and friends that wish for their well-being while understanding that the person in question has to be punished for what they did. But then again, the internet is not known for being rational or nuanced
@@liamjones9115Yes it is, because people will also judge you based on who you associate with. So when you hang around with a convicted drug smuggler, it shows you don’t care, as well as the company you keep
Omg Depay should be publicly flogged for taking some pictures with a friend who has serious issues. In fact he should go to prison also. That would be the only course of action to be taken.
It's not about that. But it makes him and the club he presents in a bad light. Bad publicity is a no no in football business in these days.
That’s not what is said here at all…
So what Depay did was post a picture with someone guilty of crimes. And? Unless you are terminally online, I don't see an issue here. It is a nothing story, ginned up by lazy sports journalists.
By Zealand's dumb logic, knowing someone that has a criminal charge is bad. Classic woke American tbh
@@augusto2006-amg it isn't even woke, so much as it is just strange. I think it is more of an americanism of his, to live so deeply embedded in media culture, that this, to him at least, is relevant
@theblatantaussie1530 Yeah now they're going to ruin Memphis for doing basically nothing significant. They're acting as if he's Promes's lawyer or something
Promes is a pro baller, a role model for children. Some crimes you say. He tried to stabbed his cousin over a family dispute. Bought 2000kg of cocaine to let children sell it on the street. Those are more than some crimes my dude.
@@pkleendert he is an athlete. In what world does he need to be a role model? Fathers are role models, not coked up ball chasers. Only in fatherless communities would this be a concern.
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First
Stop yappin jezus. Every video you talk nonesense for 3-5 min. Get to the point.
Don’t watch nerd
That's the point of this channel.