The Truth of the Claim Against Haiden Deegan's Bike | Part 2 - Matt Walker and Donnie Luce
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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 14 ส.ค. 2022
- In part two of our deep dive into the claim against Haiden Deegan's Star Yamaha YZ250F at Loretta Lynn's, we talk to Matt Walker (Brennan's trainer at the time) and Donnie Luce (Yamaha's amateur program manager) to break down their involvements and answer our questions.
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I’ve heard 4 stories. I believe 2 of them. This will never be going away anytime soon.Bottom line…Don’t bring a factory bike to an amateur race.
Will never be going away or will never go away Jesus...
bottom line... never let your engine builder talk you into claiming a bike in the first place.
@@traveler142 Why not? The point of the rule is to not build a mega bike. It's totally irrelevant WHY the claim is made. Engine builder, suspension builder or Psychiatrist. Totqally not the point. You are doing a lot of defending here....you seem more invested than a casual interest.
@@marksvideochannel3592 keep responding and I will surely keep replying... some doors swing both ways... defending a Lier like Brennen and his Engine Builder... not a good look...
@@traveler142 the only people who had anything to lose in this situation were Yamaha/Star Yamaha and the Deegan's. Why a claim would get withdrawn after a specific plan is made to make the claim, come up with $18k in cash etc. Then you would have us believe he rescinded the claim totally of his own free will just because he changed his mind.....get real, it's not a realistic scenario.
Why would the meeting get "aggressive" if not by the side NOT wanting the claim to proceed? There is no logic in any of the claimers being aggressive. That is totally against their own benefit UNLESS provoked. From a neutral perspective, the claimer's story is significantly more believable than the claimees.
Matt walker should not be allowed to teach a juvenile anything. His interview was such BS. After his interview he definitely does not have any integrity. Matt should be a politician with his answers.
✌😎 maybe their in the Democrat Super Pac?
Agreed. He is a complete flog
Donnie and Matt added a giant heaping pile of bull shit!
Dude gets HEATED too so it doesn't surprise me he lost it on the engine builder lol just admit it bro you lost your shit.
Agreed I was thinking he's full of shit lying then seen your comment
Matt- "DONT DO THIS!! MY NAME IS ATTACHED TO YOU!! NO WAY THIS IS GOING TO HAPPEN!!"
5 minutes later
"i'm so offended that i'm being labeled a bully"
These people have zero self awareness. Matt was inly looking out for Matt
If his intention was to come off as a selfish cock bag, Matt nailed it!
That is not what he said. Matt has never been self absorbed, he has always looked out for his riders and always put them first. Things were said about matt that were never close to being true.
@@itzspidi sounds like you like the taste of matt....yikes. You know all these interviews are online for EVERYONE to see right?
@@Six_One_Six Sounds like you were behind the screen when i was in person during this whole thing🫣
Just don’t believe Matt. Been around many of bullshitters in my life and he DEFINITELY gives that vibe . Just my opinion
All this BS wouldn't have taken place if Yamaha would have just followed the rules. He claimed the bike had the money it should have been a done deal. END OF STORY... YAMAHA is wrong in this whole situation. NEVER EVER Should they bring a factory race bike to amateur racing. Yamaha should have handed it over and the talk should have been we will let you take over the bike and we would like to offer you this amount of money to buy it back.
Exactly. “Hey Brennan, you go ahead and buy it and will it be cool for us to buy it immediately back for $100,000?” Exactly what I was thinking. Everyone handled this so poorly.
Is there any proof that a factory bike was used? The only evidence is that the claim was appealed.
@@EmazingGuitar exactly. All these ppl claiming it was a cheater-bike are talking out their @ss.
@@adamcondon5115 well threatening a Yamaha dealership that sponsored the kid who was claiming sure makes it seem that way. Also constantly harassing the kid all through out the rest of that day and night.
@@bobbyhall7472 who harassed the kid? You realize it was the kids trainer and the kids sponsor who told him to back out of it, right? You need to do some research and get the facts.
"One of my riders" no no no, he pays you. He's not your rider, you WERE his trainer. This Matt guy is a scholar
It doesn’t matter what the kid wanted to do with the bike. Once he paid for it was his his to do whatevever he wanted to. He could copy it, sell it, burn it it’s a non factor if the engine guy was there or not. If that motor/ecu/bike was that one off and unobtainable then it should have never been raced at an amateur event. This is why the rule exists to begin with helps maintain the integrity of the sport at this level. AMA and promoter should have protected this 17 year old kid.
Manufacturers are really picky about who gets those special factory parts, kTM will spend more money than you can afford to get their parts back, wouldn’t doubt Yamaha will do the same/sacrifice one of their employees to keep the technology in house
Wow, nicely stated!
@@rfunder12 exactly, so if they just brought a stock motor, with a pipe, wheels and suspension they wouldn’t care if it got claimed. The whole point of claiming is don’t bring something you don’t want the public having for 2x MSRP.
Why wasn’t his Father there? I fell like the Eng Builder was the guy putting up the money…that just seems like the 70’s stuff with multiple envelopes with money.
I think they would have if he told them that he had been threatened in any way. But from the sounds of it seems like he had a reluctant agreement
I guess I missed the part of the rule that said you had to reveal your intentions, motivations etc. with the bike. That is because those things are not part of the rule. File the claim and it is done. You don't have to be interrogated, you don't have to be bullied. Totally unacceptable Hey, I got a solution, don't cheat and don't bring a 100K bike to an amateur event. Done. Peace!
I think a jury would have no problem determining a minor was blackmailed here. It would have cost Yamaha either way. Get caught with your hand in the cookie jar or deal with what they are going to have too. Kid plays by rules and Yamaha gives him a black eye because they screwed up.
Agree 100%
yea these interviews are better carried out than an FBI interview. too bad this video dj doesnt have the power to supoena phone records cause that would tell us who is trying to ruin the sport. cotter is well spoken and does alot for the sport but he was on deegans side the whole time. there needs to be three referees on the situation and thats it.
Exactly
I do not believe a thing Matt said here. Brennan stated that he received a text from Matt that he wanted him to come to his pit area to speak to him. Brennan didn’t just drop by. Brennan also said he is not going back to train with Matt. Matt pressured him and doesn’t want to admit it. Matt has no ones back but his own.
That’s right. Matt was very confident saying he just waved them over as they drove by on a golf cart. The Matt dude is selling snake oil.
I agree, there are more holes in Matt's story than anyone else's. I feel like he's hiding something.
Matt speaks like a backwoods 3rd grade drop out, what he trains boys is suspect to me at this point. Seems dude would rather show kids how to use the restroom than ride a bike.
Matt = minimisation = guilt = douche bag
@@ghpjerry LOL, thats classic! Matt didn't do a lot professional racing career, but I think he was always involved in drama! LOL! Loved your comment! Thank you!
Matt didn't realize that rescinding the claim made it look far worse. I have listened to all the interviews so far and to me Brennan and Derek Harris come out looking the best in this whole situation. If not bullying there was strong intimidation. Matt's credibility as a trainer took a big hit for not backing his rider like Derek did for doing something that was well within the rules. Clearly there was pressure from Yamaha Corporation on Brennan's sponsor for that information get to them so fast up in Canada. Tim Cotter should be banned next year at Loretta Lynn and Star/Yamaha should be fined
I mean is it really that clear that there was intimidation by Yamaha to the sponsor? Think of it this way: If you were sponsoring a kid and giving him FREE race bikes for the past 3 years, and then you find out that he just dropped almost $18k on someone else’s used bike and THEN plans on racing it up in Canada the next weekend, would you be thrilled? I know I wouldn’t be, and it doesn’t surprise me that his dealership dropped him and made him return the bikes even though he dropped the claim. Just some food for thought
But it’s for Brennan to bully haiden for months ?
I agree with you 100. Also Brian deegan is raising a child who will never make it based on that he think he's untouchable but guess what. Everyone knows the truth #mattwalkercauseschoolshootings #bullysalwaysloose if you know Matt walker and deegans history they have always been bully's. #starracingcheats you can ride a fast bike with your elbows down and still win. But once you move to 450 you gotta ride like sexton and even with his amazing skills he crashes a lot. Thanks vital you killed it and sorry for all the bad news but now I'm turning to mxgp and world supercross because one person jumps the gate and gets docked a lap. How many people have been fined for jumping on a red or pay back and everyone follows the rules but #deegancheats Matt walker, deegan and Yamaha ruined LL for me. Thanks MM. Did deegan wear his spiked cheats protector?
Corporate Yamaha comes out of this smelling like crap. From outside perspective everyone involved should be fired and in my opinion Deegan's sponsorship should be revoked. Matt Walker (I don't know him personally) comes across like a lying POS. he cannot look at the camera he just seems untruthful and untrustworthy. But that's racing I guess...Ask Jerod Mees Racing. Cheating is all part of the game of winning and they all do it. But now you have me...the guy whose in the market for a new SidebySide...I was raised on a Yamaha but now....I like those Hondas. Fuk Yamaha Corporation.
No you ban Deegan, that will hurt Yamaha more.
This is despicable and unsportsmanlike
I have watched and listened to all these interviews and the sad thing is it looks like thanks to Matt Walker the kid's sponsor took back all his bikes even though he dropped the claim. One side of Matt's mouth is says he always stands by his athletes when he threw this kid under the bus. I hope Yamaha does the stand up thing and get this kids some bikes and help he deserves and I hope he finds a honorable trainer for the future.. Brennan went by the book, Star Yamaha brought a factory bike, They know the claiming rule. They got caught fair and square and has nothing to do with Deagan. This will be more of a black eye for Yamaha, Walker, and his sponsor because of how this claim was handled. you guys have pissed off the people who's shoulders your businesses stands on. Make it right or reap the consequences
Exactly right
It’s too late for many, like me, who will never touch a Yamaha again. It’s just too slimy, from top to bottom.
Greed is predictable yet always disappointing.
You call Brennan a victim here, But he’s FAR from that! He had been trashing Haiden and the Deegan family for A LONG TIME! I’ve been a racer my whole life and I’ve had to deal with some of these EXACT things! The “Daddy buys you everything’s” The “You win all the time because you have the best equipment” The “F that guy just because his family can afford nice equipment..” AND had another Racer CLAIM MY ENGINE!!! I’m a DLM Racer, and several years back there was a claim rule that stated your engine could be claimed & you could either take the money, take their engine and basically swap engines, OR Decline to sell, Lose ALL your points and sit out 3 weeks. Well, when mine was claimed I was the points leader, so we had to do it. This kid can say he did this because he wanted to ride the bike, BUT… He CLEARLY had been trashing the Deegans out of spite & jealousy! Not to mention the social media comments Brennan had been making made him look a lot worse. So it doesn’t matter how “Well” he acted during this process, Because he had already lit a fire by trashing them and running his trap, being a little punk. Be Honest, How would you act? Would you be pissed and do anything you could to stop it? Especially to someone that had been acting like an Ahole?!?! If you say you wouldn’t, That’s Absolute BS!!!! Furthermore, in this type of situation, OF COURSE THERE WOULD BE REPERCUSSIONS & CONSEQUENCES!!!! These Factory Teams want to keep their secrets and knowledge close to their vests, So OF COURSE They are going to be upset and take action! As for Matt, He makes a living off motocross and has relationship’s with SO MANY people in the industry, So OF COURSE THAT PUTS HIM IN A HORRIBLE SPOT!!! You people don’t realize just how big of a deal something like this is, AND MOST IMPORTANTLY HOW CLAIMING SOMETHING IS GOING TO RUFFLE FEATHERS, GOING TO CAUSE HIGH EMOTIONS AND YOU CAN BET YOUR ASS, IT WILL CAUSE YOU PROBLEMS!!! So don’t be surprised when Sh!+ hits the fan, don’t run and cry about it… If ya play stupid games, Ya win stupid prizes…
Claiming someone’s stuff is BS, Regardless if someone has the best stuff etc, WORK HARD, PUT IN THE TIME, & DO IT THE RIGHT WAY…
THIS IS BAD BAD BAD SHAME ON YAMAHA NOW WE ALL KNOW THE TRUTH YOU GUYS ARE MAGGOTTS AND DIRTY CHEATERS NOW THE DEEGANS ARE PIGS IN. THE MUD TOO ITS ALL BOUGHT N PAID FOR
Been nearly a year. Yamaha did nothing to rectify it, no one talks about it anymore...
Amazing how much media control Yamaha and the deegans have
What strikes me is no matter how many interviews you watch in this entire episode, Brennan showed the most restraint, carried himself with class, and acted more like a respectable adult than anyone involved. That’s just the fact of the matter, even in his interview he’s showed nothing but respect and wanted to buy that bike legally! He didn’t accuse anyone of cheating or say Deegan wasn’t an incredible rider…he simply wanted to ride a bike coming from the Star factory potentially and looks like he was right. I feel bad for both kids tho, Brennan will be basically looked down upon from now on by these adults involved who are all in powerful positions that can affect his career going forward. Then we have Hayden who never even needed all of these performance factory parts to win and now he’s in the middle of this nonsense. I don’t think the Deegans represented themselves in a bad light but many other people did obviously.
I agreed until I seen his previous instagram posts about Haiden and calling him various names and being salty about his setup and “everything “ given to him in several old posts and sort of bullied Haiden on social media and given the age differences sort of a low character move.. I could see why Brian was suspicious and in general a claim is a unspoken rule u don’t do between riders and camps. It’s def a shit show tho either way lol I think Brennan had more Nefarious things in mind though for the bike and his Engine guy seemed squirrelly to me.
@@publicschooleducated5276 what?
it's an unspoken rule that you don't use a rule in writing well that doesn't wash the rule that is written over rules a rule that is unspoken/unwritten no?
@@meechan1801 I suggest you listen to Matt Walker, Brennen's trainer on this very issue...
Brennen's Engine Builder was claiming the bike using Brennen to get it... Not a Good look.
calling Brian Deegan a Bully when it Never happened...
Defamation of Character... ever heard of it...?
@@publicschooleducated5276 I would agree except intentions, character, disposition and past comments are not in the rules. When it was time to buy the bike Brennan showed the most restraint, carried himself with class, and acted more like a respectable adult than anyone involved
@@traveler142 when a kid makes a decision and then there is nothin but commotion around it then he decides to withdraw that's because he has been pressured into it this kid had this planned for months its nothin to do with an engine builder the kid wanted the bike simple! Even if his engine builder did want it who cares what's the difference they should be using a bike they were scared to loose simple as that! Also you have only listened to 1 side of the story from what I can tell
Most frustrating thing is everyone should be shouting, it should not be a big deal for someone to claim a bike. If it is you bought the wrong bike and you’re in the wrong.
I think it's a stupid rule that just invites trouble. That being said, it's a rule and the claim should have been allowed..
Brennan “RESCIND IT” Schofield
Well said! If Haiden is so good, why bring a high end bike???? Sounds like stocker would have sufficed?
Haiden did race a stock motor during the last race and ran the best times he ran all week.
@@thomasfelts2857 nuff said!
Matt Walker is a hot head, that's clear to see.
Sounds like he’s on Adderall
Why would you state "it was clear we weren't going to change his mind"? Freudian Slip always clips the wings. Yamaha gave themselves a few black eyes on this
Gotta love a good Freudian Slip.
Totally. Why were they trying to change his mind at all?
Crazy how he blatantly lies, hopefully someone gets called out for this bs behavior in the sport..
✌😎All the interviews make a really solid case for Brennon. I think he could have easily auctioned off that bike or had it reversed engineered it for well over $1 Million... StarYamaha has figured out the yamaha over any other team including the Yamaha factory themselves and they would have lost their trade secrets over the fact they brought that type of bike this rule was meant for and the way they messed with the kid was outright disgusting. Matts interview didn't convince even himself... certainly not me.
My thoughts exactly, The more Walker talks, the more he contradicts himself. I dont think he gave a damn as a “trainer”. He knows people on all sides and tried to play hero peacemaker and it backfired. Never go giving a shit when its not your turn……
Intentions, character, disposition and past comments are not in the rules. George is right. "When it was time to buy the bike Brennan showed the most restraint, carried himself with class, and acted more like a respectable adult than anyone involved"
I side with the kid , everyone else is in damage control mode . They know they were in the wrong .
For sure
Same
The kid is in the right but it was to kinda get back at haiden. They 100% were going to bust that shit open and show whats up.
@@Maczust63 possibly. But that would've been his right if he got the bike. I don't believe there's any way that his engine builder wasn't going to tear into that thing.
@@justlucky8254 yea 100% they all look shady. Haiden is probably the only one who isn't involved. Brian doesn't look to bad. Everyone else was being shady.
The engine guy interviewed by cooksey was pretty freaking straight. No stuttering, no "Well, so and so said, this that and the other" He spoke with a clear recollection of the events and didn't spare any details. He never looked like he was searching for words or just trying to loosely fill in gaps in the story. I believe the engine guy. Yall should go check out that interview.
Yeah him and Brennan were both very clear
Your right, dude seemed timid and honest
These people were clear to
@@xafbxmoto269 Pretty obvious Brennan and his motor guy told the whole truth and had no reason to lie imo! They didn’t know it was gonna cause such a 💩 storm and obviously had no idea his racing career would be in jeopardy but that’s exactly what happened. It’s pretty bad that the 17yr old in this whole predicament showed the most poise, acted with the most class, and carried himself more like an adult than anyone involved! That’s just the fact of the matter!
Ya this dude is stuffed full of bs....you didn't bully him? So tim cotter didn't take him into a room alone!??? He was bullied and you're full of bs
“I’ve had my peoples back 100%” - Matt Walker. Also “I told him NOT to follow a AMA rule! It’ll ruin your career?” - Matt Walker
Yamaha will ruin his career or already has🤬
Matt walker is a dork and a liar
@@350xcwf good, he's a punk
@@350xcwf Yea getting Haiden's bike would have made Scholfieds career! Matt Walker is a sellout i hope all his kids training drop him like Schofield did the bike claim
Donnie the rule is there for a reason. Now thanks to you and others he is now know as that kid and he doesn't even have the bike. This whole thing is a shit show. If I had the money I would show up next year and claim every factory bike. Then sell them after and double my money.
LOL, you heard him, Yamaha is in favor of the rule and they are just there to help everybody.
@@builtfordtough4499 yes in favour of the rule as long as it doesn’t claim their factory bike
He don't deserve the bike.guess he shouldn't have made all those post to social media before this all went down.hes be a punk and deserves everything he's getting now
Good luck qualifying for Lorettas...
Same here dude, I couldn't imagine the amount of crying from all the little girls lmao. If I win the lottery I WILL do that 100% guaranteed.
Am I the only one who finds it ironic that when he goes to resend the claim they don't pull him and his dad in a room alone and ask them why do you want to resend the claim multiple times why are you doing this why are you resending the claim by the way if the engine builder sponsor wasn't allowed to come in the trailer why didn't they kick out Donnie Luce
i’m with you
Why was Brian allowed in the room too??
✌😎I was thinking the same thing...
@@bigj4272 Brain's kid had a race the next day... he wanted to know what the fuck was going on...
he got his answer and left the room as per eyewitnesses who were actually there...
your question should be why the hell are these kids lying about how long Deegan was in the room, Brennen said 30 minutes when Everyone else said 3-4 minutes...?
Because Yamaha owns the bike
I wouldn't put Matt Walker on the stand if this went to court He doesn't help his case very much
If you where smart you wouldve picked up the multiple holes in the engine builders and Brennan's story aswell.......
Matt walker did Brennan wrong. And I am sure the sponsor got threatened. And then his bike get taken away from him. How much more can you punish a kid trying to race. David vs Goliath
Yamaha “don’t go through with this I won’t end well.” Matt Walker “don’t go through with this it won’t end well”, Sponsor “don’t go through with this it won’t end well.” So The kid doesn’t go through with it and not only are the manufacture, trainer and sponsor not thankful that the kid rescinded the claim, Yamaha doesn’t return the kid’s calls, the trainer drops the kid, and the sponsor drops his sponsorship and demands to have the bikes returned. Yamaha, the sponsor and trainer will clearly say anything to get their way and never gave a damn about the kid in the first place. why should we expect them to be truthful in their interviews?
If that’s the case, I hope the kid sues Yamaha, the trainer and anyone else who was involved
Shame on Yamaha. They knew the rules. Brennan's dad disappears with the sponsor. Minutes later, Dad returns and drops claim. YAMAHA pressured that sponsor to MAKE Brennan drop the claim. Yamaha had a cheater bike and got caught. They (YAMAHA) strong armed this poor kid and his family because they knew they had more influence, money, and pressure to make it all go away.
Can anybody prove with evidence Yamaha's bike was a factory heavily modified bike ? No they can't, it's all hearsay .
@@2216sammy they had no other reason to be bitchy about a claim.
@@2216sammy Guilty or not, when they run away from the crime scene it does put some speculation on it. If they didn't care about getting caught, why would they care if he "BOUGHT" their bike for 2X times it's worth. It's his money to do with what he wishes and he followed the rules so they don't need to know why he wants it. There is no way this kid worked extra hours for months to get this bike just to withdraw the claim without pressure from someone or some entity. As a lifelong Yamaha rider I'm ashamed of them.
Matt Walker...the Alec Baldwin of moto
💯
The big question is “why?” Why is he going off on the kid and going off on the motor builder and acting like he doesn’t know the guy?
Cuz Walker is a POS that’s pretty clear.
I don’t know but get a vibe that Matts not saying a lot. Tim mentioned Brennan knew a lot about the claim process. This is not something Derek could of fed him in 10 mins. Matt also mentions the Dad said “We” messed up which probably refers to Brennan and Him. Lastly, why is word spreading that it’s the motor guy just cause he accompanies Brennan to the office but Brennan explains what he wants to do? Sounds like Deegans saturated the event to lean in their favor. Who knows though.
Walker and Luce have the benefit of knowing what the others said before and can make a story they think will ''sell''........I am not buying it and I doubt others are. He comes off as B.S.
I thought he was bs'ing it as well! All three guys and Deegan is playing like he didn't know what was going on... but starting to look like he maybe did... was so not necessary for Haiden to ride anything questionable... so close to going pro... such a great amateur career to end it on this drama... well I still appreciate Haiden's talent and hard work and think he's a good kid himself... I like the Deegans but not this situation and cheating always sucks. Where do we draw the line in this country these days... is it just anyone successful has to cheat ? Not the kind of lesson these kids need to be taught.
As the brand ambassador for Kawasaki, I would love to see Jeremy McGrath work out some kind of bike support for Brennan. I’m sure Jeremy isn’t worried about offending Yamaha after they failed to sign him following second place in Supercross. Brennan worked for that money and followed the AMA rule book.
When Matt stated Brannon wouldn’t be able to service or maintain the bike, the cat is out of the bag.
Not really . The bike has parts that can’t be bought . Most bikes there , including brennans , had the same . That’s what he said in part 1.
@@SoleAddictions so why wouldn’t he be able to service it if that’s the case?
@@SoleAddictions that's the whole point of the claiming rule....so these main teams like Star, who are grooming the next up and coming, will not bring basically full factory bikes for their riders to compete against mom and dad efforts, for fear of losing them. Hard to put a price tag on these types of bikes but they're definitely worth more than 2x msrp. Let the riders shine on their own, apples to apples. Two riders of close abilities cannot compete fairly if one is on a superior bike.
Someone explain to me how the family that films everything all of a sudden ran out of LL footage to share
Right? Never had a camera follow deegan or Haiden going to Brennan pits
that's awesome lol.
It seems that Brian, out of respect for Brennan, didn't want the interactions filmed.
Brian Deegan needs to be a stand up guy and invite Brennan out to your new compound to ride Haiden/Star racing bike you know that's is all the kid wanted!! I know it's been a minute but remember when you were young once.. I would think it would be a good move. And it would be awesome for your TH-cam channel !!
Anyone else keying in on how Matt, Donnie, Mike, and Tim all went out of their way multiple times to discredit and point out that the engine guy was aggressive. Yet none of them quoted what he actually said aggressively.
I noticed that... thought they were all lying.
lol... so everyone of these guys that has their reputation on the line is lying...
did you actually listen to the Engine Builder, who Ironically was surrounded by Blown Up Engines,
He wanted the bike for Profit... he used Brennen to attempt to claim a bike that he had No Claim to.
The engine guy has admitted that he was aggressive in previous interviews and apologised I believe
@@traveler142 it doesn’t make a fuck! Had Brennan claimed the bike and takin it racing he’d have had engine builders all across the moto community giving propositions to get their hands on the bike!! It doesn’t matter what his intentions, or conversations were to get the bike you fool!! I’ve seen you all over these comments saying the same damn thing like Brennan or the engine builder are wrong. THEY’RE NOT JACKASS!
@@keithfenwick5502 I saw his interview. He said after Matt was up in his face threatening him, that he eventually got frustrated with Matt and called Matt's bluff saying "Hit me then"... along those lines... he didn't intiate or even match the aggression. He admitted he got worked up... that's all.
I greatly appreciate the breakdown, I’m a fan of hearing all sides involved. The unbiased breakdown is awesome.
Shit where's this unbiased breakdown you speak of?
@@heno2653 ML asks relevant questions throughout, he doesn’t have a side, he’s just picking out useful information. That’s the unbiased breakdown. The guys he interviewed might be full of shit, but ML still provides relevant and useful information and perspectives for us to make judgements from.
If you think was unbiased think again . All these guys involved are in damage control mode . Most of the questions were very leading looking for a narrative to minimize the actual way this kid was treated.
Imho Don and Matt have zero fooking business sticking their noses in this at the track.
Just goes to show how much pull the manufacture has on AMA. AMA can’t even enforce their own rules.
I was thinking the same thing like why a old trainer needs to be involved with what the kid wanted to do. the fact is that it was a factory bike needless to say. I dont think this will ever be forgot. I would even think LL is going to lose riders since you can race a factory bike get it claimed and then bullied and make them pull the claim by contacting the rider bike sponsor. would of been funny if he didn't have a bike sponsor. but I can see parents like naw we cool on bike sponsors
You can tell Matt is lying out his rear. You can tell he's tripping all over his story. A man like that should not be any where near this sport.
WOW! Yamaha , represented by what is shown in these interviews, would not do well in a courtroom. Bullying? It seems vague when Matt Walker, tells a child/kid that this is a “mistake” it and it will "muddy the waters" and it "will hurt you down the road," that, could certainly be see as bullying! Challenging potential corruption, standing up for all riders fairness, questioning unfair activity at the sponsor level seems like a gallant stand that maybe should not have be questioned from a sponsor! There does not need to be a reason that is asked over and over, according to this rule. The kid was clear as day why he was doing it. He followed the rules and stood up for the rights of many amateur racers. He should never have been " told he will muddy waters" on the behalf of sponsor interests. Did Yamaha cheat? Not technically and that is unknown without opening the bike. Was Yamaha fair to all amateur riders bringing such an expensive bike to the race? Absolutely NOT! Is being unfair viewed as cheating in the public view, the families risking so much to support their kids, people on a budget to make this sport event? Most likely it will be seen as a cheating effort, in the later respect with fans, but the aggressive defense for the sponsor to fight this, will certainly reflect poorly on Yamaha and MXsports.
It certainly seems, now, that Yamaha , defended the use of expensive bikes that are not fair to all riders. Will they also be viewed as being unfair to the majority of fans?
If there was an addition to this rule, that if a sponsor threatens the individual, demands a reasons for why they want the bike, they be banned from the event for 2 years. would they have responded the same way then?
MXsports out of line? Why for any reason on earth was ANY representative from MXSports, a sponsor organizer, assuming authority talking to this minor alone and asking why they wanted or not to proceed with action? The article in racerX seemed like such a coverup based on the wording and now this confirms this .
Yamaha got caught red handed by what they admitted to? Wow! Fans want to see racers be part of the event that is about the racers and when sponsors control things, threaten the riders, maybe fans should rise up and send a message to those sponsors; don’t buy their products.
Will the fan base cancel their racer X subscriptions, challenge MavTV with your credit card for poor quality put the charges in dispute and cancel the subscription, don't buy Yamaha products? Maybe some will, maybe those that suffer from this type of response will.
One thing to remember is that fans are the money and can be the power send a message they support riders over sponsors. Fans have the power to cripple the sponsors and help racers that challenge sponsor corruption .
It seems as though a good attorney would destroy Tim Cotter, IF you study body language (bobbing of the head, arms folded - usually indicates hiding information as in protection of the heart/chest, repetition, possessive juncture in speech) he clearly was acting on behalf of MXsports and sponsor interests not the athletes. He claims “ownership” as authorities as “ours” when it was the AMA. It is very clear from watching his reactions, tone of voice he is on the defense for questions not requiring defense. The reason “why, “ should NEVER have been asked by MXsports or Tim Cotter. MXsports is sitting now as an open can of worms responsible for this mess when you listen to him.
✌😎 Everything you said is on point... I feel so bad for Brennon and Haiden who is legitamately rippin and could win on a stock bike with good suspension set up... And Brian has done a great job as a dad in my book... I'm a Deegan Fan, but I'm a fan of the sport first... and a fan of what's right and fair always...
@@sunrealclothing You are like that matt walker.. you can't see what's wrong with your words
@@fliarshypocritestothebones5698 I'm objective to the situation. It's looking more like Yamaha pushed the situation to go wrong for Brennon. I really don't think any of them had them should be asking the kid why or the motor guy. And now that it went down that way, it looks suspect af that they went that hard to keep the bike from being claimed. So what's your point? I'm not a hypocrite or liar. I'm a former racer who knows the game has escalateded to bringing factory bikes to amateur races. And Brennon was the most calm and professional out of everyone. He deserves that claim.
Very well said sir, my thoughts exactly!
@@Efemedio1Thanks…
This guy can really shovel the shit. After this whole incident I will be avoiding any Yamaha products for the foreseeable future.
No one cares. 😂
them yamahas do be barkin doe
Well, hopefully enough people that sympathize with the kids situation will care and Yamaha will sell a few less bikes. I was going to do the improbable and but a yz250f next month and because of all this garbage, I will gladly be purchasing an Austrian bike. So that's two bikes they lost. Wouldn't surprise me if a few more followed.
@@brandonelmore3383 Go cry about it some more because no one cares. 😂
That Donny Luce just glossed over so much definitely gave off snake oil salesman vibes...r damage control
Walker and Yamaha lying through there teeth, disappointed in the industry.... Protecting the golden child . Oh well I'm sure the riding community will forget about this in a month.
So, Donnie Luce is just a “big helper.” Now that his bikes are gone, no need for these 2 free motors and since he “overstepped his bounds” with Star, we know the trip to the GOAT Farm isn’t happening. All that, “we weren’t going to be able to change his mind” thing is really telling. It means they were going to try and if they couldn’t, they knew some people who could.
Bikes are gone ok? So what move on he clearly has money now he can go buy one and take them motors for back up motors
@@jennifersprague8585 lol are you equating buying a stock 250f to a full-on factory star yamaha? he should have the star bike and yamaha should be more than grateful he backed down in the end. they should be whipping him up two full bikes with the works and everything just shy of the top secret stuff. this whole ordeal was handled so poorly, and it's clear it wasn't the kid.
It's been proven Brennan did NOT lose any of his bikes or sponsors, the kid is a lying clout chaser
I'm not them and I have no bone in this..just wanted to clarify something I've seen being misunderstood in the comments..
"Being in possession of" and losing them could very well both be the case.
@@byronfretz8201 wow your comment aged poorly.
The kid rides for KatM now and lost all his Yamaha bikes and sponsors that are associated with Yamaha
You failed to ask the important questions! I feel like you let them off the hook because you didn't ask hard, direct questions that everybody wanted to know, like: "The motor guy said you threatened him; Is that what happened?" and to the Yamaha guy: "Did you say that there is some 'technology' in that motor that we really don't want to people to see?" Those questions and answers are what we the people wanted to hear from Matt and Donnie. The big big question that EVERYBoDY wants to know is; "What exactly made Brennan retract his claim?" We wanted Brennan to GET that bike!!! We wish he didn't retract his claim!!! When Matt said, "You don't want to do this because it will stick with you throughout your career". The question is; What will stick with you? What harm would it cause? Why would shouldn't he stick with his claim? I would have!! Instead of having a Star Yamaha Bike, Brennan got gipped. Of course it looked like Star was using unfair technology to advantage themselves above the competition.
Yep all these interviews are just fluff pieces designed to give the offending parties a platform to absolve themselves of responsibility. Donnie Luce, Matt Walker, Brian Deegan all POS liars simply white washing their abysmal and unprofessional behavior. In Donnie’s case, his actions warrant him being terminated by Yamaha, which still may happen.
The three ‘losers’ in this whole thing are Yamaha, Matt Walker, and most importantly, Brennan Schofield.
Yamaha is CLEARLY the reason, in this instance, the rule is in place. They CLEARLY had too much tech and intellectual property invested into that bike. It is unclear to me if Yamaha pressured the dealer that sponsors Brennan but they CLEARLY did not want to lose that bike. And offering things that even Luce states he has no idea if he can actually make happen is an extremely bad look for Yamaha.
Matt Walker’s interview was no value added for me. No mention of him threatening the motor guy or kicking them out of his pit. No mention of physical aggression which I feel probably happened. He’s always been a hot head. I’m sure he acted inappropriately as the others stated. He and Luce glazed over way too many details in their stories. You’ll notice that Brennan and the motor guy gave lots of intricate details whereas they just generalized the entire encounter. Not cool. They look like liars or that they are trying to downplay their poor handling of the situation.
Lastly, poor Brennan. Let me say that again, POOR BRENNAN! He wants to do something that is completely within the rules and at the end of the day he doesn’t get the bike he paid for, it’s unclear whether or not he’ll get the two Yamaha motors or a trip to the goat farm, his trainer threatens to beat up his motor guy, and he goes home to Canada to find out he has to return his bikes to the Yamaha dealership! So he gets 14th at Loretta’s, adheres to the rules and loses his bikes! That is completely insane! This is not ok and the AMA needs to look into it further.
In no way does this look bad on the Deegans. Say what you want about Brian talking to the kid. It doesn’t sound like he was disrespectful or talked to him for very long and it clearly didn’t change Brennan’s mind. Hayden just shows up and rides a bike. What Yamaha decides to do with their bikes is their own fault, not the Deegans.
I’d like to see something in the rule state that parents must be present or notified like Cotter and the AMA guy said but also there should be additional verbiage regarding the claim itself - there is no reason for ANYONE to ask “why” a claim is being made, period. “Why” is not relevant to the equation. It should simply be “ok, let’s figure out how to make this happen fairly for all parties,” that’s it. I understand Brian asked “why” because he’s just trying to protect his kid but the AMA or MX Sports should never ask “why.”
I think once Brennan tells everyone "I want to make a TH-cam video" Yamaha panicked. Literally like the worst thing he could of told everyone on why he was doing it. Why wouldn't he say, "I'm getting a factory bike for $18k of course I'm doing it"
Matt Walker was a loser way before this 😂
@@stevenhunt133 never met the guy but he Im taking his side on this...... He was looking out for his rider knowing that the claim would most likely be bad for future sponsorship and relationships. Had the engine builder who was clearly paying to steal stars IP not taken it to the media, it may have swept under the rug where it should be...
Man if that kid that want to claim a factory bike with just a small amount of money, even its a rule, its still stealing man....if he want a factory ride or bike, earn it with his hard work.. Not with this kind of shit...
@@markanthonysugino5742 how’s he stealing if he’s paying 18000 and it’s in the rule book
I would’ve kept the claim. I’m the type that the more you try to intimidate me the more hard headed I get no matter what the cost.
Same. Lost his sponsor anyway, should’ve just stuck to his guns. Also tho, he lost his sponspor because they told him to not talk about it and then he goes on vital mx lol I don’t blame the sponsor for what they did. But he should’ve just took the bike. he would be an even bigger privateer hero right now with a large TH-cam channel
Guys, start saving this year, sign up for lorettas next year, get a pro bike for 17k... easy! Teams will be capping their budget soon enough and the field will soon be leveled ;)
Yes I love the way you think I'll come all the way from Australia to sign up and take wat I can home in my luggage bags
Expected the interview with Luce to be a lot more denial than it was (still lots of vagueness and some denials though). He basically backed up everything said in part 1, then walker comes out way off (and obviously on script) and it's ridiculously obvious he's completely full of BS because his story doesn't mesh with anything else said. So far he's the only person to oppose the rule, even Deegan and Luce said they support the rule. Curious what Prior is going to say in P3, since it's obvious he's going to be on a script too....Kind of hoping he gets a suspension or ban from racing up here in Canada regardless of whether he was pressured from above.
Scofield claimed the bike within the rules ama should have impounded the bike end of story ...what he does with the bike is his business.. think why the claim rule exists to stop factories buying amateur championships.. dont you think That bike gives you an advantage
If the engine builder was kicked out,wtf is yammy involved for?????????
100% on point there!!! Yeah why??? cause they got caught cheating and your interviews are more lies to cover up the cheating...
Because it’s there bike lmao
Clearly, the one's at fault is the ex trainer and his ex-sponsor, Matt Walker and Rallyemotoplex are 100% to blame...
Matt walker, wow! He showed all the signs of deceptive behaviour in that interview. Seems like a real coward.
Agreed that he showed a lot of red flags in his responses. I'm sure he meant well with his intentions but his actions say otherwise, now he's just trying to convince himself and others that he did nothing wrong.
Wondering why Matt is the only guy pinning this whole deal on the motor guy? The only person in this whole scenario who seems credible is Brennan.
Of course, he was pressured and intimidated. Why else rescind the claim?
💲💲💲💲💲
Paid to drop the claim & Yamaha had him sign a non disclosure agreement.
It's always possible he got a better offer. Ride the bike, engines, cash..., who knows. No rule against it. I hope it works out well for Brennan in the end. He's done the sport a service.
@@keithpeterson6108 yamaha rep stated they had nothing to do with the drop.
@@jaymckoskey25 from whom. His sponsor?
He just ruined his career. This is all he will be remembered for in the motocross community. Good luck on finding another sponsor that will give him 4 bikes.
Matt Walker is tripping over his own tongue!
It would be awesome if someone with the money, to back a non factory rider and start claiming bikes from these factory riders and get this sport back level and honest.
It's been about 4 decades since I road raced but, Yamaha and Kawasaki had contingency money for amateurs who rode their bikes.
I'd love to get Matt Walker pissed! Watching him get all red and puffy is funny AF
Situation handled very poorly by Matt Walker. If he felt so strongly about his position on claim he should have had a private conversation with his rider/pupil. Luce handled poorly as well. What good did it do to drop claim after all?
Matt Walker could be done in this sport. Who is going to send their kids to be thrown under the bus? He has always had a shit attitude since before he was even pro and once again it manifest itself.
Sounds like he was actually trying to save his riders career.
Guess who’s facility is sponsored by Yamaha. Yup Motox. How does a training facility get sponsors.
@@builtfordtough4499 LOL! Ole Matt Walker, such the southern gentleman! I thought he might drop a "sumbitches" in his interview somewhere! LOL! Do you feel sir he shitted on his rider or was looking out for him not to get a stigma attached to him? Thank you!
@@thejose628 By his own mouth he was to not be associated, saving is own ass my friend. If it was any other brand, maybe not so much.
“Cleanup” coming in. I’d like to believe the kid who has nothing to lose. AMA shouldn’t allow this. The fact that boy was sat on a room with adults is not ok. Deal should have been handled through AMA. AMA let them do this. Lots of people got involved to make this boy change his mind. Brian deegan knew his trainer so they went to talk to the trainer which treated Brennan like shit. Dealer was contacted, for what? To change his mind. Why if he is going with a claim IN THE RULE BOOK. Whatever Yamaha or anyone says. They did this boy dirty and it NEEDS to be addressed by the AMA and they need to do right by Brennan. That boy has a dream can’t blame him for wanting a bike like that. Ends up being they are running a unique bike. Who’s fault is it for taking it there when there is such rule. Taking advantage of the little guy, disgusting. Typical Rich Vs Poor/middle class scenario.
💯. Shame on Yamaha. Stop buying their blue BS. They messed up, and put the spotlight directly on themselves. Don't bring a 100k bike to an AMATEUR event, OR risk it being taken!
Nothing says there cheating than doing exactly what they did, I hope everyone gets behind this kid and gets him back on a Bike.
Matt Walker is only concerned with how his reputation is effected by his actions. He is convinced that claiming a bike legally, is a knock to a person's reputation, that people in the industry will always look at the person claiming the bike as that negative guy. This is exactly a case of the haves vs the have not's.
I wish you'd asked Donnie why and under what authority were any of them trying to get Brennan to change his mind. For mine, I don't think anyone had authority to say things like that. That's not how these things should happen
Their answer would be a passive aggressive, "no we weren't trying to stop him, we just wanted to ask why he was doing it". They are all hiding behind we just wanted to talk to Brennan... right
That's not against the 'rules'
What connection does Yamaha and the dealer have with Matt? Seems odd that he cared so much and acted like it would be the end of the world. The only thing that makes this whole thing such a big deal is if that bike has something in it that it shouldn’t. Not even saying cheating but could be that or just something so special that could be copied.
The only one with something to lose was star Yamaha, obviously they made the call to shut this down so I’m sure it went above even Donnie, he just happened to be the foot soldier on the ground. AMA should be investigating but doubt they would ever punish them…
My assumption is that Yamaha went to Matt because they knew that Matt trained him. Matt then took it upon himself to make it his business to strong arm Brennan for Yamaha.
@@bradridesbikes2 he mentioned the dealers owner’s son trains there too. Maybe he threatened to pull his kid to get Matt to help? I’d guess they pay more than Brennan’s family and since the kid is younger they would be a longer term income stream.
It’s just strange that the dealer went straight to Matt instead of Brennan first.
I blame the Yamaha guy for thinking: “we need some clarity and class in this predicament, let me involve Matt Walker”! 🤣🤣🤣🤣
Matt Walker seemingly lacks integrity.
So what's the solution? A possibility that would benefit EVERYONE... Star Motorcycle sets up a closed session with Brennan to ride a factory works bike. Allow him to do his youtube video/review of it (non biased), Star Motorcycle works with Brennan and his engine builder on a deal (substantially discounted) on a few motors/support for a season contingent on 1) A non-disclosure agreement on the exact deal and anything from this incident and 2) He performs well, both as a rider and as a brand ambassador 3) No further discussion of the claiming incident.
Not a bribe, but a settlement/compromise that benefits all parties involved. Additionally the claim rule needs some tweaking to cover things like "AMA official and parent/guardian must be present for riders under the age of 18 y/o" etc. The Deegans may or may not have known what the bike actually was, but that really doesn't matter at this point. It's obvious that Haden is very talented and could win on most anything.
Another thing that would be an interesting move would be if another one of the manufacturers were to step up and make Brennan a similar offer. Will be interesting to see where this one goes.
Matt Walker speaking his own opinion about brennan being known as the guy claiming deegans bike as if the whole world thinks that is taboo. ( small world he sees)
Had you heard of Brendan before This?
@@sausagewalllet I have... he's a young amateur showing up at various amateur nationals and he's in top 20 US... so... if you had a business that made you scout motocross athletes... you'd know.
Trust in the Lord with all your heart, acknowledge him and he shall direct your path, The God of the whole earth he is called, Blessed be the Rock, Jesus is rock of my salvation. Let us praise his holy name and esteem him for who he is.
I also find it strange that a satellite Yamaha amateur team has extra motors to loan but someone as high profile as Deegan signed to Star Racing has not one extra motor he obviously had extra motor but I guarantee you they were all built the same with shit that they didn't want anyone else to get their hands on so they have to go and borrow an extra motor from a satellite team does that make sense to anyone Brian Deegan does not seem like the type of guy to not have another back up motor for his son racing the biggest race of the year when you're racing in multiple classes on the same bike.
Matt walker is a liar period. It's so obvious. He absolutely did bully people
Bully my kid he would be picking up his teeth every morning
The bully can't say there was no bullying. Doesn't work like that.
Trainer. In his opinion this is not what you should do be involved in a claim. God for bid the boy has a voice of his own. 100% known I'm not a bully. Can this guy hear him self. Calm words are wise words. This is passive aggressive at its best.
or is it passion for his sport... Matt knows the potential blowback from claiming...
not a good look for Brennen and as it turns out the Engine Builder.
kids lie... and the engine builder used Brennen to claim a bike that he had no position to claim.
who told the sponsor of the claim?
Matt Walker what a world class unmentionable!
It’s funny just based off of the different perspectives from these major networking companies, you can see is on the side of the big corporate and who is not.
Nailed it Yamaha and the Deegans got the industry insiders trying to clean up their mess.
@@gwagenadventure727 yep. All they’re doing is damage control
Matt walker clearly threatened the engine builder and you can draw your own conclusions from that
Thank you to all involved. Moto was getting stale, we needed "Stargate". Bad press is good press. Yamaha will sell some bikes, Derek will sell some Ti Rods, Walker will sell some classes, Deegan will get more followers, and Brennan will end up receiving mass support from another manufacturer. The Vitals, Pulps, Pings, Rotos, and Swaps will make cash off those clicks.
Does anyone else think that it's such a big balls play to claim the bike? I wish he followed through with it.
Huge!!!!!
The Deegans(mostly Brian) need to come out and apologize and what not. Though this entire thing should have been between Star Yami and Brennan, not Brian, not Matt, not Tim, etc.
But Brian has been posting a bunch of shit on Instagram like a child. Been watching Deegans YT for yearssss, been to every AZ Lucas oil race, been to a few in CA, and have supported them. But c’mon. Why does there have to be politics in all of this?
Haiden shows up and rides the bike he’s given. Same with Brennan. Claiming “Haidens” bike has nothing to do with Haiden. Brennan wanted a star bike. Fuck, my dream is to have a star bike(which will never happen. I love Yamaha, from YXZ, to MT-09, to YZ450F. If I had the chance to get a Star bike, I’d take it just like Brennan tried. The rule is their to keep people from putting way to much money into the bikes. And Brennan didn’t even care about that, he just wanted the bike.
Anyway, Brian should come out and say “look, Brennan just wanted a star bike, this entire thing blew up into a massive thing that it shouldn’t be. Brennan was following the rules, but Star didn’t/doesn’t want their tech being public. Star should have went to Brennan directly and not have all these parties involved, but the drama kicked in and everything unraveled quickly. Brennan should not have had his main sponsor drop him, y’all or someone should re-sign him. Again, this whole thing got way bigger than it should have and got messy for no reason. Their were no I’ll intention from any party. If anything, this claim sort of checks the MX community to remind us all of the rule.”
Doubt that’ll happen.
I was watching Brian’s live a couple days ago, and he said that “I don’t think this will really harm the Deegan name or anything…(etc.)”
But dude. Yes it will. The way you portray yourself, the way you treat people, including me at some of Lucas oil events(was pouring rain and let us stand under y’all’s tent at Wild Horse Pass), has been awesome. Seem like a stand up dude that hasn’t been changed by all the money and fame.
But all of this shows kind of the opposite. I don’t think Brian had I’ll intentions, he was upset that someone claimed the bike, which is understandable, and he acted on emotions(just the questioning, which isn’t that bad). Seriously, just come out and say something. Literally a short “this got too big. None of this was intended, brennan followed a rule. We were opposed to the claim so we talked to him. The rest that happened afterwards are things that shouldn’t have happened. We wish Brennan the best and hope to see him at tracks in the future.”
Boom. Didn’t make yourself look bad, didn’t attack brennan, and your fans/supporters feel better about the situation.
Currently what is happening is: the Moto community and smaller brands are up Brennans ass with support because this is all fucked up. But you have Brian and the big wigs trying to control the situation. We’re all a community. A small one that is trying to grow. Build a couple bridges and get the fuck over it and drop politics. We all know why star didn’t want the claim(either pro motor or proprietary tech), we know why Deegan doesn’t want the claim(chance of people saying “they cheated”), etc. none of that will be said officially by any party. So come out and act like adults. Brennan is handling this like he’s done it 48384 times. Brian and everyone else is acting like 4 year olds.
*sorry for any typos, my thumbs are special*
I would have ripped off my graphic kit,
Told my sponsors to F off
Told Yamaha to piss off
Rode that dope bike till it broke then sold it to claim a kawi next year lmao 🤣
Over stepped my bounds, means I lied and got the bike back to where it needs to be in star racing hands. Should be Brennan's bike Yamaha scared this kid and then pulled the rug out from him.
Glad I'm a Husqvarna guy after hearing how Yamaha handled all of this I will never own another, but then again I am 58 and have been riding for 50 years now, I probably won't be buying a new bike....
So how did sponsor get involved 🤔 lol because they were clearly contacted and pressured how else did they get involved especially so fast. That is the shady ass deal with this whole thing!
Or the sponsor heard and didn’t want any part of it because of the backlash from it.
@@thflash09msr so why backlash for a rule that was put their for a damn good reason. These idiots think it looks so bad really they do, just plain stupid. We all know that they went extra mile for that not yo happen
I wouldn't let Matt get in front of a lawyer and speak on my behalf, he's a loose cannon that can't get his story straight.
after watching both videos I would believe the motor guy over the trainer, imo
Thanks for clearing up the issue with the sponsor.
Well done and both part 1 and 2
I don't get the line "This will stick with you thru out your career" So what! "Twist and Shout" stuck with the Beatles thru out their whole career and it didn't seem to affect them? A rule is a rule! Why did Brian Deegan get involved?
Because Brennan had nothing to gain from just claiming the bike to race, there had to be other motives to it, and Brennan proved it in his interview by saying he was going to post videos of the bike and bike tear down. He literally wanted the bike to gain views on his TH-cam channel and to sell out the secrets yamaha had.
@@byronfretz8201 Again, so what! It was all done legally and by the rules. Your denying Brennon from making a living via TH-cam. Yamaha caught with their pants down. Bottom line!
No but he is potentially putting yamaha in a position to where they lose money. When has the little guy ever gone against big corporations and won and got away clean? Never, everyone warned the kid that if he claimed the bike it would do more bad then good, and obviously the kid was smart enough to see that. He mad 17k grand in 4 months, he can go buy his own factory bike.
@@byronfretz8201 You could very well be right. He lost that one. I can't disagree!
@@markrice2821 I just hate the way people are talking about the deegans, they don't own that bike, and I can imagine the only reason brian doesn't want to lose that bike is because of the sentimental value behind it, who else would want their kid to lose a championship winning bike just because of a dumb rule and how popular haiden is... they need to get rid of that rule completely and just do pre race inspections or supply the bikes for AM races. Something other than potentionally loosing your bike just because it's fast. That's a stupid rule in my opinion
Great Don, kid has no bikes now but will have two crate motors? You should send him two complete bikes now that his sponsor has pulled his bikes from him.
No need for those motors now. You didn’t think he was going to slide him a couple motors for bikes he was certain he wasn’t going to have, do you?
The sponsor dealership that was giving him bikes has taken back all his bikes after being a big reason he rescinded his claim man thats messed up.
The sponsor doesn't want his name attached to the shit show. It's not personal.
Someone got caught with thier hands in the cookie jar
after watching all these interviews it sounds more and more like Star showed up with Craig's factory motor in Deegan's frame and now they want to do damage control to make it out like they didn't try to run a 60k bike against a bunch of 15-20k bikes. Donnie low af for going to Matt Walker, they knew by pulling strings they could get the claim withdrawn. Also Deegan has been Dq'ed over illegal motors before, got booted for just that in 2014, Of course Brian would never admit it they blamed a part mix up with Twisted Development. The video No Respect shows Brian's true character, no reason to believe the apple falls far from the tree. Also why is Matt Walker training anyone?? he was about as good at racing as every other nobody, dude was never even hardly in the top 10, in fact was ranked below 25th the majority of his career.
This part was hands down the shadiest of the 3 part series. Luce was definitely withholding information. "The sponsor just so happen to arrive at the same time" Yeah...right. He then goes on to say he was trying to think of anything to change the kids mind and he "may have over stepped his boundaries" by offering for the kid do ride a star bike. ... and everyone that is anyone knows Matt Walker is the king of douchebags
If Matt Walker was put on a lie detector test machine it would have exploded ,
How long before it is announced that Donnie has “retired” from Yamaha?
Even though this is heavily involving the Deegans, I do not think they are at fault here. Haiden just rides the bikes. He does not tell them what aftermarket parts need to be on it
He's not answering the questions.
For me, the piece that is missing (so far) is "Who contacted Schofield's sponsoring dealership, and what did they say (or threaten)?"
No one did . Brennan assumed they did . Brennan is a little piece of shit to ruin deegans career and is jealous he doesn’t have a factory ride . You could see that he was jealous from the snaps at the end of part 1 of this . Brennan is a liar and he is only their to ruin peoples career . That’s why no one did anything about this . Vital is posting one more video about this let’s see what this one entails but the fact that he lied about coter and deegan being the only people in their with him shows what kind of person he is .
thats the question. if matt didnt tell the sponsor, and donnie didnt, ama didnt, mx sports didnt, then who did notify the sponsor of the claim?
@@HPRaceDevelopment Maybe Brennan told him he was going too and never said anything about it in the interview because according to Matt the sponsor told him and that’s how he figured it out . If not then it had to have been Donnie.
@@bradleywagner142 brennan never told the sponsor... If he did - and the sponsor didn't care at the time - then what changed to make the sponsor care? FYI brennan was pitted with the sponsor all week
"So, they wanted Deegans bike. We couldn't let it get out to anyone, so we tried to bribe him with some engines, but they didn't want them, SO, we made some calls and magically, Brennen withdrew his claim. Easy peasy. Then we ruined him later on to show everyone how we roll."
Matt Walker is a hot head who helped himself get ahead somehow by helping Yamaha Corp. What deal or agreements behind closed doors to get yamaha's factory bike back will only take time to understand. The claiming rules is there for a more equal playing field for amateur racing, maybe we need to go back to the team green model program again to help more riders versus teams helping only a few riders with big budgets.
the only people to blame here are the upstart youtubers, spreading the misinformed guesses and opinions of their 'sources' and passing it off as fact. Everyone interviewed here has been perfectly reasonable. Thanks Michael for the huge effort in doing these interviews and clarifying things in such a professional way. Wish the other youtubers would take note.
Facts:
1 - Brennan followed the AMA claim rules
2 - Yamaha gave a factory bike to Deegan for Loretta's
3 - Yamaha and Deegan's team tried to prevent the claim and blackmailed Brennan
4 - Brennan retracted the claim based on verbal agreement that he would keep his Yamaha sponsorship
5 - Brennan was LIED to and sponsorship was pulled from him
PERIOD
Honor the rightful claim Donnie. You messed up and are now trying to brush it aside. Yamaha should be ashamed of your unprofessional behavior.
Great reporting! Thank you for clarification. Much hyperbole out there making the rounds!
Lost a lot of respect for the Deegan’s and Yamaha for what went down at Loretta’s. That is some shady shit cornering and essentially attempting to intimidate a minor. Then Yamaha calling and putting the squeeze on his sponsors to drop him unless he does away with the bike claim. Check the link below to see Brennan’s full interview:
th-cam.com/video/8ZkJU8-IxMY/w-d-xo.html
Why are you loosing respect for the deegans. They did nothing
Literally this video proves how this comment is false.
Deegan’s really had nothing to do with it. Brian simply asked the kid a couple of questions and wanted to know why which any father would do. Sounds more like the kids sponsors heard about it and didn’t want any part of it and had the talk with the dad and how it wouldn’t have a good look for his son.
@@thflash09msr but no one wants to hear the truth it doesn't give them anything to bitch about.
Is that you Cooksey? 🤣🤣🤣
So the sponsor was just sitting around in Canada and had a thought well I need to go talk to Brennan with out any calls from Yamaha lol like how would he even know he needed to talk to Brennan with out someone calling him
yeah then when he said he trains his kid Oh I train alot of Canadian riders. then said he text him saying he needs to talk to him. then matt says he's like I train his kid so he was thinking that. then turns around and says he text him and say its not about his kid. can we see those text messages.
Yeah I call BS
Ryder D's bike that weekend was being sold for $40K... It's an "unwritten rule," because all the sponsored kids have legal work that they don't want the competition to have.
All the Interviews have been surprisingly calm, professional and well-spoken, except Matt 'The Bully' Walkers.