As for what the sponsor said to the father, they felt it wasn't a positive situation to be involved in. The sponsor doesn't want to drag Brennan through the mud or set fire to the situation any further. He just wanted to clear up the claims between his decision being influenced by Yamaha. We can't force someone to go on record about everything if they choose not to agree to it. That would be a legal issue for us as a media outlet.
@@odinslain2608 100% the kid was within his right to claim the bike and did it legally and fairly. Across these interviews that is clear! That is a severe bummer and black eye for amateur moto. Star wanting to raise the claim rule limit isn’t the right thing and we hope the rule is adjusted to better serve the claiming party and really put pressure for these programs to bring more down to earth equitpment to the races.
Seems to me like every adult thought it was a Bush league move and unsportsmanlike or unethical even the kids dad that's why he wasn't around when he made the claim. Just because it's a rule doesn't make it right. I think the kid wanted clout on the internet because he is jealous and he thought it would make him cool because the Deagan's get hate for being successful. Just look at the livestream from lorreta Lynn's all week for example
The ones that talked Brennan out of it by saying it would cause too much problems are the ones that created the muck. Then after he took their advice and trusted them they straight shit on him and bailed on him. Shits not to hard to see between the lines
I think you got it backwards. Brennan threw them under the bus in prior interviews to this when they gave their initial advice and kept quiet until now
He played by the rules. They got caught with their pants down and didn't want their "secret" parts to be found. Nobody said anything to anyone or put any pressure on him, yet he still cancelled the claim? This whole thing is bullshit, they don't want to play by the rules at all.
Cmon let’s be real, does anyone think the owner of Monster Energy Yamaha Racing would ever admit to calling anyone to threaten that dealer? And do you think that dealer would throw them under the bus and potentially ruin his dealership?
Yea, this interview stinks of bullshit. Anyone who has heard a child deny taking a cookie from the jar can see the holes in this explanation. “Absolutely the truth”. “To the best of my knowledge”. Right. GFyslf
@@walken199 It's about everyone on the Yamaha side is lying to an extent. The two side's stories are too far apart for someone not to be lying about how they acted.
Such a fucking joke. That kid should have deegans bike per the rulebook. And applauded for setting a precedent that factory bikes and unobtainum parts don't belong in amature motocross. It's a joke. There's no credibility anymore. Sad thing for the sport.
100% correct. He had the money, made the claim and followed the rules. He should have had that bike and there should have been no drama. So bad for amateur racing that this happened the way it did
Ok so here’s the lesson: claim the most badass bike at Lorettas, and meet with no one afterwards. Go to your motorhome, close the shades, and lock yourself in the bathroom until AMA sends you a text to come pick it up 🤣
Owner of star “we don’t want people to know where we are buying parts” it’s a claim which is a rule. Don’t put them in if you don’t want them pulled. End of story.
@@Tanner731 I agree with you 100% @Monte Bobby Reagan said clear as day that he didn’t want some parts to get out and that the public shouldn’t know about. That should be enough info for you right there that someone called someone and told them to go after this kid so that he would take back the claim and look what happened!!! The claim got taken back because the pretty much blackmailed this kid and his dad!!! And the only reason Yamaha is still going to give the kid those motors is because he took back the claim. You really think that Yamaha would still give that kid those motors after claiming one of their almost factory motorcycles, hell no they wouldn’t!!! System is rigged for the big guys to stay big and the little guys to stay little!!! Just like the government!!!!
@@markmorgan5892 He literally said the exact opposite of that. He said that there are parts that have vendor names on them and so they don't want their competitors knowing where they buy some of their parts. He never said there was any part on the bike that he doesn't want the public to know about.
All we know, is that Star, Yamaha, AMA, Walker and Luce et al have lost a hell of a lot more than the ~$50k they would have lost had they acted in good faith. Brennan wont understand until he's older, but he's made a hell of a positive impact and he should be commended. Very ballsy young man.
Yeah but short term unfortunately it's going to affect him negatively for the next few years probably. He should have considered it a little more. As a Yamaha rider with sponsored Yamaha bikes through a Yamaha dealer he probably shouldn't have come after star Yamaha number one prospect rider without at least consulting some of the people it was going to affect. Just cause he was able to do it by the rules doesn't mean he's not going to get any back lash. There's a reason it hasn't been done since 2005.
I think AMA handled this well, mxsports could have been a bit more clear with their intention of talking to Brennan and ensuring that the conversation was fair to Brennan. The rest of the people (sponsor, trainer, deegans) went from stepping over the line (deegans) to downright malicious (trainer, sponsor)
To cut out all the noise, Yamaha should never have approch Brennan to try to change his mind, by doing so , in my opinion created the problem and handled this in an unprofesional way
@@stephenwilson1012 There can be multiple claims within the same 30 minute time frame. That was explained in the 2nd video, and where rules were changed to not allow a bogus counterclaim.
No mention of Brennan's bikes being pulled during the dealer's statement section. Brennan has lost his bike support. Is that not a relevant fact? Very incomplete coverage in that respect. It seems like this coverage starts from the assumption that all the big names involved MUST be innocent and they just need the right questions asked (and not asked). The dealer was probably afraid of losing the franchise without any spoken threat. It makes sense. Michael, you commented a lot on his written statement and never mentioned that he took all of Brennan's bikes like 2 days later. Why not just report that happened and say you don't have the dealer's answer on it? That's true, no? Three parts, multiple interviews and no mention of the immediate aftermath involving two of the main characters, one of whom is an amateur who lost his ride.
Meh. Nobody really cares at this point. Walker is lying, Luce is lying. Lindsay and Mathis are starting to steer the conversation, making stuff up. We’ve already come to our conclusions. There’s nothing this clown can say that rehabilitates the 4 clowns involved.
Schofield is the most obvious liar in this situation and most definitely went into this race with a plan to claim the bike because he has a personal issue with Deegan
This interview is the most revealing so far. The money that goes into amateur bikes that win is beyond the normal budget. Maybe the claiming rule at Lorretta’s needs to stay the same and the factory support needs to go away
This is why the sport is unaffordable anymore. You’ve got big names with money asking for more. If that kid lost his ride because of this, that is sad. He didn’t break any rules, so why punish the kid?
This claim rule is great for most of the classes but 250b and pro sport should be exempt. These kids earned those rides and are preparing to go pro. If you don't want to race against factory bikes, sign up for a limited class.
Apparently Bobby doesn't understand the spirit of the rule. The idea is so you WON'T spend so much money on a bike, not change the rules so you can spend a ton of money on a bike.
Seems pretty obvious at this point that it's mostly the sponsors fault. It's the largest grey area. Sounds like they told the dad that Yamaha was pressuring them, when they in fact weren't, just to get his dealership out of the mud on this. If the plan of the dealership to take back the bikes after Walton was known to Brennan, as they had expressed, then Brennan would not have cared what the dealer said and went through with the claim. So that to me is a lie.
Exactly, had he known they were gonna take the bikes anyways they dang sure wouldn’t of have a reason to withdraw the claim! Heck he would’ve needed that bike more than ever then!
The ridiculous part is the dealership has nothing to do with it so why would he think the dealership takes negative heat? It’s a Canadian dealership consumers don’t give AS!!! He was pressured!!
There's nothing illegal about bringing the "pro" bike to that race if they run in the mod class. They just risk LOSING the pro bike if it would be claimed.
What sticks out to me the most from all this is when Matt said his sponsor said "if you don't keep quite about this it will come back to bite you in the butt"...hmm I wonder why he lost his ride.
Guys do you really think Yamaha Corp. and Donny L or the dealer sponsor are gonna come on and say " Sure we put pressure on the dealer and threatened to remove support or dealership from him" come on be real that would be stupid..the amount of shilling for the factories, AMA, MX sports and the sport in general is sickening at this point...the kid followed the rules and got bullied,no bike and his sponsor pulled back his bikes...straight BS.
Pretty shitty of Bobby Regan to throw shade at Brennan by going out of his way to interject that he figures Brennan was just greedy, that he claimed the bike in hopes of flipping it for its full value. That was gratuitous, and surprised me because I have watched and read way too much on this story and don't think I saw anyone else suggest flipping the bike was the motive.
Brennon had the right to reverse engineer & disclose anything about the bike and auction it for a lot of $. And now it looks like they almost lost their Factory secrets w a bike worth way more than $17k. And this vital mx is biased in favor of Brennon's opposition. Bobby Reggan stuttering and ahahhh... can't even speak stŕaight. Neither could Matt or the other two guys... Brennon & his motor guy were way more professional and believable. Everything combined show's Brennon got screwed.
Moving forward they shouldn't revile who the buyer is untill he picks it up. Never have them face off and ask questions of cores.. This will continue to happen again.
Bobby wants the AMA to up the dollar amount for a claim. He thinks no one should be able to get a $50,000 bike for 17K. OK I see your point,, but.. isn’t the spirit of the rule to be able to have “amateurs” able to afford the small scratch so they can play in the game? It’s either that or everyone on the gate has a $50,000 bike😆 What we still really want to know is why Brennans sponsor pulled back all of his bikes after Brennan abandoned his steak to the Star Yamaha bike? Seems like Brennan was trying to be good and loyal and ended up with the shaft. Brian should step up and buy the kid five new floor model ready bikes as good faith and be done with this. It’s a drop in the bucket for him. This olive branch of good faith will pay dividends for his brand. Do it now Deegan before a GoFundMe starts for this kid and you lose the opportunity
No way. Brian Deegan had nothing to do with this kid not claiming the bike. The kid said after Brian talked to he was still claiming the bike.The kid said Cotter had no influence on changing his mind either. With the adult support of the engine he was claiming it. Bobby Ragan thought it was a done deal . Dealer sponsor talking to dad and dad saying no is what dropped the claim. Period
Even Star admits..the price gets you a great bike worth more than the claim value... and some parts have company info on them...yeah...and maybe stuff they want secret...don't Race it at a Claiming race... run what ya can afford to lose....
Why is the rule "still on the books" if this is the unreal bullshit you have to go though to claim a bike. Team showed up with a factory bike, got claimed according to rules, and they hit the roof and put a 17 year old in a room with bunch of grown men and applied the pressure. Putting a minor in a room alone and allowing people affiliated with the team having a bike claimed is quite possibly the worst idea I can think of. There is no amount of "everyone was cordial" you can say that anyone will believe. Conflict of interest much MX SPORTS and AMA?
Thats Brennens dads fault! No way I send my son with 18k to make a claim you know is going to get a lot of attention! Why the engine guy was doing most the talking and even called Ama a week earlier asking about how to go about making a claim?
The kid should of left with the bike. Period. Every word from any of those people involved was pressure to give up the claim. AMA should fine and penalize those involved just to retain the integrity of their rule book.
I'm guessing Star racing owns the bike. Wish that would 've been asked. The Bobby Regan interview was something... He said they were concerned and didn't want anyone to see inside the engine "it has distinguishing marks" and another word play was this is an amateur bike that has some pro parts on it. Really. No wonder why the kid was pressured so hard. Everyone says the claiming rule is great for amateur class for this very reason, don't race a bike worth 50k and parts you are not willing to lose
He said it has distinguished marks from the builders they buy parts from and they didn’t want that out there. It is a mod bike so it’s not an illegal bike. He said it’s not a pro bike that they ride.
No the rule doesn't need to be updated. Certainly not to reflect 50k put into these amateur bikes. Stop bringing high spec bikes to amateur races. I hope next year 20 people claim the top riders bikes
Seems like the initial goal of this series was to frame this as a "big misunderstanding" when it was obviously a big, real conflict that affected some real people and possibly a lot of future sales. What part of this was a mistaken understanding by anyone? There is a well-known claim rule no one uses much, he boldly tried to use it, and a bunch of stakeholders got really angry in response. That is a natural conflict from all sides, not any misunderstanding. Any one of us probably would have acted like the people involved in each role. Why sugar-coat it? The answer to that is obvious, but still disappointing. Regardless, that was a lot of interviewing, so props on all the work. We commenters sure couldn't have lined that up!
I forsure won't buy a yamaha ever now and as much as I like Eli and some of the other blu riders I can't say I'll support anything yamaha affiliated. It's sad that a multi million dollar organization can't admit they were wrong for running that bike at lorettas, wrong for getting mad someone was following a rule, then (we all know even though it won't be admitted) they put pressure on the sponsor which said and eventually still pulled their support. This story should have been star racing had an unobtainium bike at lorettas and courageous kid claimed bike, leveling the playing field done per the ama rulebook. But nope...let's get nasty political
@@thegrossmansmx they should have heard this was happening and got fired up to make sure their local dealer doesn't retaliate against a blue amateur and create a PR nightmare for them over one bike. Instead, at best, they just sat there silently in the meeting while the kid sweats. A little late now to save it, Yamaha. Lucky they have the best Japanese bikes right now. That's their only saving grace
@@KyleStrever yah I agree. From what I can see digging through all these videos comments, and social media comments, the majority has seen the corruption and im so glad. It's not about Brennan anymore. It's about time this shit gets settled. Factory teams or affiliates don't belong in amature racing period. They can be like NFL scouts at amature events but they shouldn't be lining up kids (under 18) under contract at amature events even if it's a showroom bike
@@thegrossmansmx did you NOT listen to the same report that I did? Brennan’s sponsor released a statement that at no time were they even contacted by Yamaha.
@@slynn5138 do you NOT understand that people are going to do anything they have to afterwards to cover up the situation? Of course they're going to say that now, especially if they were threatened by Yamaha, if they came out publicly saying "yea we almost lost our Yamaha relationship", that'd seal their fate with their license or relationship. It's a lose/lose situation. When humans are cornered, most do what they gotta do for survival. The kid should have never been approached or treated the way he was for following a legit rule. Another thing that could prevent this is someone not racing a 40, 50, 60, or 100 thousand dollar bike at an amateur event. End of story.
“Not to my knowledge...” “I don’t believe…” “I heard from…“ “As far as I know…” “It depends on who you talk to…” Big guys with lawyers talk last after they know what others said and how to respond.
Also matt Walker and luce contradicted each other heavily...Luce stated he did offer engines and a ride at the farm where as Walker said this didn't happen.... Pretty clear you're knee-deep up Yamaha's butt.... Bring in the engine guy who was threatened by and asked to fight walker.... it is very clear walker was the catalyst to all of this
@@stampylove Walker was not there for the conversation.... I was there I heard him threaten the engine guy ... I heard him stir up the shop owner ... Walker is squarley to blame for all of this... th-cam.com/video/bztoQI_ZajA/w-d-xo.html
After part 2 , Over it 😡 just more BS💩 Amateur Racing is broken 👎Money and Power rule the sport . Rules are not for everyone. Black Eye to Motocross and Yamaha 👎kid followed the rule and got screwed . Shame on all those involved in Bullying the kid out of his claim .
The rule is their for a reason, Through these interviews the rule seemed to be a well known fact by all, except possibly not Brian Deegan .Simply said do not bring it if information you do not want every person to know will be exposed is a working part on a rider's motorcycle. The meeting at Matt Walkers place in the camp had one intention and one only, out of their own mouth, Brennan was not leaving their with that bike. No rules
Bobby suggesting that Brennan was going to sell the bike to make money was so unprofessional. How can you believe anything Star Yamaha say after this attack on a kid that’s done nothing wrong
"It's not anybodies business where we buy our stuff from" The rule has been there for years Bobby. If no one at your tearm foresaw this scenario, there's no one to blame but yourselves. I'm sure you realize this by now. Do better, and thanks for running the Yamaha team and providing a ride for so many guys.
@@pop4783 Nah, the rules will/should change. Should not be able to claim 250b and pro sport bikes. There are plenty of other classes to race. Lets not punish the kids who are getting ready to go pro.
@@andyhughes8051 true there are mod classes and stock classes so if you can't afford a 25-50k dollar bike then maybe you shouldn't ride in the mod class and maybe go for the stock class instead. And if you win everything in the stock class, there is probably a big chance that you will get a factory ride
So what did he say to the kids dad? Why is he not actually going in to detail on why the actual claim was dropped since it’s obvious someone had involvement and it’s sad you guys aren’t asking the tough questions.
The question was asked but we can not force someone to go on record. They felt it wasn't a positive situation to be involved in. The sponsor doesn't want to drag Brennan through the mode or set fire to the situation any further. He just wanted to clear up the claims between his decision being influenced by Yamaha.
Hopper dropped an interview tonight with Brennan. He flat out stated that because of all this he was forced to return the bikes and lost his sponsor and was told it was because of this situation.
@@ryanfowler2595 very coincidental all this happened then the following week the poor lad has to return all his yamaha bikes 😅...every1 feels obligated to get to the bottom of it but these people are still tip toeing. Outside looking in the kids been shafted and corp guys covering up. Otherwise right now he'd be riding a star 250f for 17k end of story.
So I’ve listened to all 3 of these and I’m getting a sense of downplay by the accused parties involved. I guess you can’t blame them because they don’t want to make themselves look bad. It’s total bullcrap that the sponsor talks to Brennan and his Dad about the situation which then convinces them to not follow through with the claim. AND THEN after they drop the claim, the sponsor drops Brennan. Absolute bullcrap! If it wasn’t for the sponsor persuading them to drop the claim, Brennan would have the bike right now, and be in the same position with the sponsor that he’s in right now with that sponsor. I’m still going with the feeling that the kid was bullied 100%. Matt Walker is a chump, “unspoken rule” this and that. What a pansy. The rule is there to be used, not unspoken about. Brian Deegan and the sponsor took the cowardly way out by making a statement instead of talking to you. If they have nothing to hide then they should show their faces while they talk on the matter. Follow your heart next time Brennan. You let all the outside noise ruin what you worked all year for by saving up that pile of cash.
Yeah. They aren’t clarifying or setting anything straight. They can tell you whatever they want. Bullying a 17yr old and ruining his sponsorship. The adults should be proud of their behavior!!
Bobby stays up late and didn't get any calls but all this was over at 915 so I seriously doubt he didn't know before he went to bed. This is a mess. Sad Brannan bikes got taken.
He feels so strongly about things but doesn’t want to address it or put his face out there? Must not feel as strongly as anyone else in this situation cause everyone else out there side of the story out there. Never thought that kids and dirt bikes could end up in such a messy crappy situation like this sucks for Hayden and Brendan
@@Jorgem1010 the engine builder talks Brennen into putting a claim on Haiden's bike the day before his big race... does the guy in the getaway car get charged the same as the bank robber...? Both Brennen and his engine builder are at fault here, they created the entire story... calling Brian Deegan a Bully... you may also look into what constitutes a defamation of character case... these kids, Brennen and his engine builder did not give two shits about Haiden, they wanted his bike, and they lied to get it. and they lied to smear Brian Deegan and Star Yamaha.
@@moto97productions82 Brennen and the engine builder are the losers in this case... they deserve all the good tidings they get. lol, there coming I assure you.
Sounds like Brennan isn’t even sponsored by that dealer anymore so he should have just took the bike. Dude pressured them not too then sounds like he terminated the sponsorship anyways.
This guy says the rule needs to be updated because guys have $30k-$40k invested in their bikes, but that’s the whole point of the rule. The rule is to disincentives teams from spending more than double MSRP in upgrading their bikes to keep it more accessible to more people. If more people claimed bikes then teams wouldn’t spend outrageous amounts on bikes and it would be more competitive.
AMA Claim Rule can't supercede State or Federal Law negotiating a $17,000 deal with a minor and using coercion to deter the minor and the threats on his sponsors dealership. And they come across looking like they had a lot to hide and a lot to lose. Brennon was wronged. I hope he get's way better and goes pro and battles for wins one day. He might be worth a competetive team giving him a factory ride w all the trainers and coaches the kids that were top 10 in his class. Kid earned his own money in a few months to do this is baller! Prayers for your future Brennon.
It’s bullshit Brennan got dropped and lost his bikes when he took back his claim to avoid losing his sponsorship. Then through a text. Is told to bring his bikes back. I think this is wrong and should effect that dealership negatively. The kid did nothing wrong and tried to protect his sponsorship
Shame to do this to a kid with a dream. You helped the kid good. You’re saving your business great. The hell with yamaha they are bullies. Bunch of liars but what can we expect. We know they’re interests. But trying to Bury this kid is what is actually “coming to bite you in the ass”😂 Poetic Justice isn’t it. Read the comments. You are on the peoples bad side. Do right by Brennan maybe things can go away and you can clear your name. Or can you not drop your ego and keep up the lies and deceit on how you bullied a 17 year to keep your cheating technology.
figures the dealer wouldnt interview on camera. he talked them into pulling the claim then pulled the kids bikes.. i wouldnt show my face either if i pulled bs like that!!
With all due respect… this situation of “claiming a bike” was done under the approved and agreeable rules to this competition. It is not the fault of the “claimant”, (rider Brandon). Fault lays at the feet of the teams who invested mega dollars into an amateur competitive event. Do not sit here, and try to lay blame at the rider. Vital MX, it seems to me, you are supporting your access and established pro contacts. What needs to be supported is the existing rulebook and the amateur racers who keep this sport alive. Rules are Rules. Excuses are Excuses. Just follow the rules or change them.
Never owned a Yamaha for good reason. I’ve had a few friends have issues that Yamaha made worse. One had an issue with an ATV from day and after multiple dealers not being able to fix or find the problem Yamaha agreed to replace the ATV. He agreed showed up at the dealer to swap his for the replacement and they wouldn’t give it to him till he paid taxes and fees Yamaha added. Ended in court with him getting a full refund and then a Yamaha rep called him and asked if he’d like to order a new one as the new model year was coming out. They offered no discount or even an apology for backtracking on the deal they put in writing. Proves they use their power, money and lawyers to try to weasel out of their own word.
Time to unfollow all the channels that did one side of story. And engine guy Derek should buy this kid bikes the rest of his career . Kid had it out for Haiden for months and engine guy took advantage of it . And fake media jumped on it to make $ and get clicks not caring who they destroyed in the process . Really just hurts the sport and is best to not support those pages. Really just a sad situation. "IF" Dad and son make the claim with no bad intentions no prob .
that's why you should always wait for both sides of the story to come out. a bit funny that Vital MX is the only channel that wanted all parts in their videos, while the other channels only wanted one part on the side in their videos
The rules dont specify anything to do with “intentions” or any other BS, the claim was made as per the rules the bike should be brennans no ifs, ands or buts
What a mess. As far as I'm concerned if the kid filed the claim properly and had the cash, that should have been the end of it. No meetings, no motor swapping, no bs. Everyone involved now looks like crap.
Brennan was still interrogated in a room alone with 2 adults. Complete BS…. I’ll never buy another Yamaha or support the Deegan even the owner admitted they brought a pro bike to a amateur race.
Thank you Michael for getting every angle and side from this story and allowing people to make their own judgement. I personally have not wanted to listen to any opinions on it so I could hear each persons take and this does it
I'm sorry but anyone from the Deegan camp saying they didn't know anything is complete bullshit they threatened a 17 year old out of a bike he claimed by the rules. They were fully cheating and got caught that's why they threatened the 17 year old. What a shame lost so much respect for that family.
Canada dealers name was on the bike , and he didnt want Deegans bike claimed and his company name involved, so requested the withdrawal. Then Brennan start doing interviews on youtube August 12th about the matter (Tylerlivesay) just before Wilton races. Dealer pulled all sponsorship as a result, IMO prove me wrong
Seriously raise the claim price? $8.5 k for a bike $1.5 k for a wheel set $1.5 for a pipe. $1k for bits and bobs $1.5k for some basic engine mods And $3k for some real good B kit suspension. What else does a amateur really need ?
Why is everyone hung up with a rule change requiring a parent to be there to purchase the bike? How about some common sense and have a parent there when he’s being harassed by 2-3 adult men?
I’ve said it once I’ll say it again the 2 companies that screwed up here are Yamaha for being so confrontational against their amateur riders and the AMA/Loretta race coordinators for letting a parent confront a claimer, it sets a bad precedent for the rule especially considering the parent that did said confronting carry’s large influence. I think Brian Deegan posting about it and trying to assassinate the character of Brennan and his mechanic isn’t helping anyone he’s using emotional arguments and screenshooting Snapchat’s like a teenager, that doesn’t impress anyone but the 16 year old fan boys.
I'd like to see Yamaha and Star Penalized heavily, the way Brennan was attacked and bullied into retracting the claim is disgusting. So many people are pulling thier orders as they should, AMA should slap a heavy Fine and make them start next season with a huge negative points total. If Yamaha threatens to pull out of the sport let them, they'll either stop building bikes or come crawling back within 3 years.
There's also the problem with a claim after the race but would prevent it from being used in another scheduled race you can't take away a rider's bike what teams would be claiming each other's bikes to prevent some top guy from riding against their top guy
Yep. The claimant should be able to stay anonymous, nobody should be allowed to question or intimidate them in any way, anybody who attempts to interfere with the process should receive heavy fines and a ban from being at tracks for a lengthy amount of time. They suspend people who don't abide by the claim rule and the same punishment or more should be handed to anybody who attempts to manipulate the rider making the claim.
This is the most BS cover up story I've heard. Y'all knew what you had and if they really were going with the rules it would be his bike right now. Instead they intimidated and bullied him since his dad wasn't there and now he gets no bike. I'm so mad about this whole thing. If it was my kid Tim Cotter would be in the alpine stars med unit
No normal rider has 30-$40,000 in their bike. Most people have suspension, minimal engine work, pipe, clamps. That’s it. Get real. This is such a joke.
I’m from a different time in Motocross bikes…When I raced at Loretta’s, his Trainer Matt Walker won the race, and I finished inside the top 10…we were both on Yamaha YZ125’s…I can’t speak for how Matt Walker’s YZ125 was set up, but mine had Factory Connection Suspension, a High-Compression Wiseco piston, Pro Circuit Pipe & R304 _Factory Sound_ Shorty Silencer, a Flywheel from a 1982 Yamaha YZ60 (because it lowered the rotating mass considerably thus providing a substantial increase in torque & I’m not sure if my race mechanic had to mill the YZ60 flywheel to make it fit or not…), my sprockets were custom machined Aluminum, but I didn’t do enough testing on sprocket size which wound up as a limitation because having too big a sprocket in the front & too small a sprocket in the back turned out to be too much for Loretta Lynn’s, I’m from New England & that was a setup that yielded great results at Southwick…which is a sand track that robs a lot of the bike’s power, so having that gear setup worked great there, but at Lorettas I ended up being off the throttle too much to keep the bike from getting away from me & landing me with a broken neck _(…which happened anyways in 2003)._ With modern bikes…technologically-speaking…SOMETHING WAS UP with Haiden Deegan’s STAR/Monster Energy/Yamaha. But it was a throw-away moto…he already DNF’d moto #2 when _Little Red Dog_ Evan Ferry’s footpeg got tangled in the spokes of Danger Boy’s front wheel. I believe they were using the throw-away moto to test the feasibility of unproven technology… I believe Deegan’s YZ250F’s motor had a dummy camshaft in it (to pass tech inspection) & instead had Electronic Controlled Valves which work independent from the camshaft & are controlled by the ECU. That’s why when Donnie Luce from Yamaha was in Matt Walker’s Pitt confronting Brennan who was accompanied by his motor guy Derek Harris, he said to Brennan “Listen, Matt told me you earned the money to do this working as a mechanic at his facility, but you aren’t going to be able to service this motor…neither is he” _[pointing at Derek Harris]_ the reason neither of them would’ve been able to service that motor is because in order to maintain the Valve timing, it would need proprietary, totally application specific computer software which would be impossible for Brennan or Derek Harris to get their hands on, unless Star Yamaha handed it over with the claimed bike…Honda’s iVTEC system utilizes Electronic Valve Control, which gives it completely situationally variable valve timing so I know the technology EXISTS & is being implemented _(…which makes it plausible…)_ but having the ability to adjust the engine timing would be totally necessary…as an example, the next time you’re out somewhere & you hear a 4-Cylinder engine being pushed to redline and furiously backfiring…that’s happening because some asshole either put different cam(s) in the engine, or switched the Camshaft Gears & didn’t make the necessary timing adjustments to compensate for it. That being said, a Fuel Map change could make it so the Valve timing would need to be set differently… and that sort of unreliability is why I believe Star Yamaha was using his _throw-away_ 3rd moto as a feasibility test….
Entirely plausible, esp when it comes to ECU circuitry size. Similar to changing rings on a 2smoke, the valve train seem to be a 'weak point'. Though I doubt Bobby Regan is being dishonest. Quite the 'Krusty' genre fan, Deegan Sr. comes across as a hothead. IMO, he took it personally. As if another adult used 'undue influence' (a legal term), to provoke Brennan claim. Deegan Sr. should take a step back and contemplate an adult confronting his son, under such conditions. As for juveniles and legal contacts. Brennan had his father's permission to make the claim. While typically juveniles can't have agency, Brennan can represent his father's agency over himself (by foregone permission). When Deegan Jr. registered for the race, his father had to give a legal signature to acknowledge the contract terms to race. Therefore it's Deegan Sr. responsibility to know the rules and accept the risk. Now he has egg on his face b/c he doesn't have to read the rule book. As a counterpoint, there seems to be a lot of complacency, paranoia, and wilful ignorance afoot. Look how many strawman fallacies were presented. De Sr ~ 'Who put you up to this' ie this is not your motivation Walker ~ 'It was apparent to me, someone else was behind this' Even Brennan insinuated Yamaslaw corporate called his sponsorship. 13:07 As the oldest and most informed, Bobby Regan make the greatest point in review. Pro level bikes can be substantially more difficult to operate*, he admits to the bikes value, and everybody (should) knows the terms/rules before signing legal contracts. ^ie narrower band of high RPM for HP, ect.
I’d like to get more info on this RallyE Motoplex sponsor, why did he just do a statement, why’s he dodging interviews? Does he got something to hide? Why did he pull Brennan’s dad to the side to talk to him? What did he say to him? Where’s that interview at?
These guys are full of shit and the interviewer seems like he's toeing the line. The only reason they ran a stock engine the following day was to make sure someone didn't make another claim or protest to see if engine was legal.
Yamaha knew about the rules but they also knew nobody has claimed any bikes in years, they should have lost that bike especially since Brennan lost all his rides
Lost a lot of respect for the Deegan’s and Yamaha for what went down at Loretta’s. That is some shady shit cornering and essentially intimidating a minor. Then Yamaha calling and putting the squeeze on his sponsors to drop him unless he does away with the bike claim. Check the link below to see Brennan’s full interview: th-cam.com/video/8ZkJU8-IxMY/w-d-xo.html
Brennan’s interview doesn’t matter and you know why ??? His story changes every single time he does an interview. He lied about deegan and coter being the only ones in the room with him . He lied about Yamaha forcing him out of the deal his own father backed out of the deal after the sponsorship talked to his father . The sponsorship was never threatened Brennan just assumed . This kid was after deegan end of story it’s over . The truth has been set free . Brennan just made his main sponsor, his trainer , his motor builder and his entire family look bad with all of those lies he told in those interviews.
@@bradleywagner142 Got it the kid is lying and Yamaha and the Deegan’s are telling the truth. Thank you for opening my eyes! Because the kid is the only one who stands to gain anything from lying whereas Yamaha and the Deegan’s stand nothing to gain or lose from intimidating a minor without his parents/legal guardians present.
Why was he claiming a bike by himself. His dad should have been there. If his dad was not there who put up the money? This dude is not legit and has made several negative posts on social media about Deegan which puts him in a bad light.
Each interview that comes out the kid looks scummier and everyone looks better. The people screaming about this made up their mind day 1 and haven’t paid attention to anything else that’s come out. 10 people are lying and 1 kid that’s story changed a half dozen times already is honest. The intimidation part disappeared after 3rd interview, timeline went from 30 to 5 minutes, money savings went from 4 to 2 months, cornered by 2 adults with no ama to ama was there entire time and deegan asked him 3 questions and left, sponsor was threatened to sponsor didn’t like negative publicity and asked him to stop and never heard from Yamaha. Kid wanted TH-cam clicks and is a lame that ruined his sponsorship and career for publicity
Regardless of what Bobby Regan or the others say something happened that caused Brennan to drop the claim. He was pressured/coerced to drop it. They will say anything to make themselves look good in this considering how much press it has gotten.
There's a lot more backstory coming out that I didn't know about, that doesn't change much but gives more understanding to Brennan's true motives, whereas he has said he was just reading a rulebook and saw the rule and thought Star had the best bikes so that's why he picked that bike. What he didnt say, and not that it matters at all, Brennan had a run-in on the track with Haiden at a Loretta Lynn qualifier where they came together on the track and both went down. Brennan posted several Snapchats, saying he almost got a hole shot on a 30 hour bike and Haiden has a 100 thousand dollar fully modified bike. Then on another Snapchat he said that Haiden was on a full factory Star bike, but he should learn how to pass people like a normal person, and called him "danger girl Deegan pussy ass mf." Doesn't sound like the sweet innocent little boy that was "followed back to his pits by Haiden and his friends after he left the meeting with the AMA." Let's wait and see on this. Ok, the rule isn't that if someone claims the bike, you must give it up, you can refuse. If a team refuses, then the rider is DQ'd. So, since Brennan didn't get the bike, DQ Haiden in that class, the 250 B(I guess there is a one year suspension as well, but Haiden could race local and NMA events, heck, race Europe for year, maybe he would get some peace racing there). That should make everyone happy about that part of the story.
@@USMC-1911 also, it may seem small, and people haven't said anything, but Brennan's story was that he read about the rule in the rulebook as he was going through the book one day. Brennan's engine builder said he mentioned the rule to Brennan at the Loretta Lynn qualifier at Freestone in March. Does those vastly different stories mean anything? To me, it shouldn't be dismissed and needs to be added into the conversation. To be honest, it looks like Brennan had some deep feelings against Haiden, and the engine builder may have suggested he could not only drive a bug up Haidens rear, but get that 100 thousand dollar bike Brennan was complaining about on his Snapchat,band he also said something about Haiden always having everything given to him. Seems like Brennan had quite a lot given to him, that he didn't seem to recognize, and he mentions having 5 bikes to ride provided by his main sponsor, the Canadian Yamaha dealer, and he even got a 125 to play with and do some "fun races with." See, that's what bugs me, is that Brennan had some really good long time sponsors that had really helped him get to where he's at, and when he did his claim, I personally thought he should have warned his sponsors, because he is a representative of them, and his actions effect them as well, but I think he knew not to do that, because he knew that would not likely approve.
@@dougdickason I remember the first story I read and they were portraying that they barely had the money to even get to lorretas and now we are finding out that wasn't close to being true the kid had a pretty sweet deal and that could be one of the reasons the dealer dropped him .
This is all a complete joke. So The dealer coincidently pulled the five bike from the kid AFTER the Haiden claim. This is all a complete scam and the only one getting screwed was the kid who played by the rules. If you believe the story they are pushing you are a sucker
Seems everyone has their own version of the truth and we will never know the complete story. Would love to know the complete story of what was said between the sponsor and the father. Not sure Luce will have a job next week. He seemed to be sweating bullets. I do think in the future that claiming should be an anonymous thing so there is no interaction between the claimer and the owner of the bike.
@@venicebeachsportsnetwork6677 no... I’ve never heard of even a seasoned pro getting 5 bikes from a dealership, therefore the dealer must have really liked and were all in on supporting Brennan. Than They gave him 2 days to return said bikes. Yamaha definitely making moves behind the curtains
As for what the sponsor said to the father, they felt it wasn't a positive situation to be involved in. The sponsor doesn't want to drag Brennan through the mud or set fire to the situation any further. He just wanted to clear up the claims between his decision being influenced by Yamaha. We can't force someone to go on record about everything if they choose not to agree to it. That would be a legal issue for us as a media outlet.
ML you've acted with more integrity than anyone else in this whole issue, thanks for the true journalism.
Your purposely twisting this bro. Why?????
That's a kid.
Your licken boots ain't ya
The new CNN of moto apparently
The new CNN of moto apparently
@@odinslain2608 100% the kid was within his right to claim the bike and did it legally and fairly. Across these interviews that is clear! That is a severe bummer and black eye for amateur moto. Star wanting to raise the claim rule limit isn’t the right thing and we hope the rule is adjusted to better serve the claiming party and really put pressure for these programs to bring more down to earth equitpment to the races.
Every adult in this saga seem like complete f'n snakes.
1000%
Cuz they are
Seems to me like every adult thought it was a Bush league move and unsportsmanlike or unethical even the kids dad that's why he wasn't around when he made the claim. Just because it's a rule doesn't make it right. I think the kid wanted clout on the internet because he is jealous and he thought it would make him cool because the Deagan's get hate for being successful. Just look at the livestream from lorreta Lynn's all week for example
@@cbogolo you sound like one of those Deegan fanboys
@@cbogolo you and your little girl feelings do not matter... the adults acted like snakes.
The ones that talked Brennan out of it by saying it would cause too much problems are the ones that created the muck. Then after he took their advice and trusted them they straight shit on him and bailed on him.
Shits not to hard to see between the lines
He played with fire and got burned.
I think you got it backwards. Brennan threw them under the bus in prior interviews to this when they gave their initial advice and kept quiet until now
If he hadn’t gone on social media and dragged anyone and everyone through the mud he would still have sponsors.
The sad part of all these. The kid was being trained to be a snake at this young age.
He played by the rules. They got caught with their pants down and didn't want their "secret" parts to be found.
Nobody said anything to anyone or put any pressure on him, yet he still cancelled the claim?
This whole thing is bullshit, they don't want to play by the rules at all.
Cmon let’s be real, does anyone think the owner of Monster Energy Yamaha Racing would ever admit to calling anyone to threaten that dealer? And do you think that dealer would throw them under the bus and potentially ruin his dealership?
absolutely
Truth right there , this is vital sucking up to get better access to the riders . This is CNN at its best
You can just tell by the way he’s talking that he’s lying, it’s pretty obvious
Yea, this interview stinks of bullshit. Anyone who has heard a child deny taking a cookie from the jar can see the holes in this explanation.
“Absolutely the truth”. “To the best of my knowledge”.
Right. GFyslf
@@walken199 It's about everyone on the Yamaha side is lying to an extent. The two side's stories are too far apart for someone not to be lying about how they acted.
Such a fucking joke. That kid should have deegans bike per the rulebook. And applauded for setting a precedent that factory bikes and unobtainum parts don't belong in amature motocross. It's a joke. There's no credibility anymore. Sad thing for the sport.
100%
Some cheese with that whine? 😂🤣😂🤣
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Large corporations and politicians are known for their honesty.
100% correct. He had the money, made the claim and followed the rules. He should have had that bike and there should have been no drama. So bad for amateur racing that this happened the way it did
Ok so here’s the lesson: claim the most badass bike at Lorettas, and meet with no one afterwards. Go to your motorhome, close the shades, and lock yourself in the bathroom until AMA sends you a text to come pick it up 🤣
Or Claims should be anonymous
@@aceseightscustoms778 It definitely makes sense to have anonymity as part of the policy.
Amen
Jjajjjjjaj genious
@@aceseightscustoms778 yah…and I’ll send you an anonymous bike too. Meaning a “replica”. 😂
So the kid got screwed…the big guy gets away with it again!
Correct!!
A kid walking around with $17,000 got screwed? lol, boo hoo.
Kid screwed himself. Already on a sponsored ride and got greedy
No a engine builder that was trying to dig through a engine git screwed that poor kid is gonna get screwed in the future for getting involved
Really badly too... he said he lost ALL his rides as a result.
Owner of star “we don’t want people to know where we are buying parts” it’s a claim which is a rule. Don’t put them in if you don’t want them pulled. End of story.
I'm sure your boyfriend agrees with you
Doesn’t mean it’s illegal part lol
@@ONKINGDAVID you think theyd try this hard to bully a kid out of claiming a bike if there wasnt something wrong?
@@Tanner731 I agree with you 100% @Monte Bobby Reagan said clear as day that he didn’t want some parts to get out and that the public shouldn’t know about. That should be enough info for you right there that someone called someone and told them to go after this kid so that he would take back the claim and look what happened!!! The claim got taken back because the pretty much blackmailed this kid and his dad!!! And the only reason Yamaha is still going to give the kid those motors is because he took back the claim. You really think that Yamaha would still give that kid those motors after claiming one of their almost factory motorcycles, hell no they wouldn’t!!! System is rigged for the big guys to stay big and the little guys to stay little!!! Just like the government!!!!
@@markmorgan5892 He literally said the exact opposite of that. He said that there are parts that have vendor names on them and so they don't want their competitors knowing where they buy some of their parts. He never said there was any part on the bike that he doesn't want the public to know about.
All we know, is that Star, Yamaha, AMA, Walker and Luce et al have lost a hell of a lot more than the ~$50k they would have lost had they acted in good faith. Brennan wont understand until he's older, but he's made a hell of a positive impact and he should be commended. Very ballsy young man.
Yeah but short term unfortunately it's going to affect him negatively for the next few years probably. He should have considered it a little more. As a Yamaha rider with sponsored Yamaha bikes through a Yamaha dealer he probably shouldn't have come after star Yamaha number one prospect rider without at least consulting some of the people it was going to affect. Just cause he was able to do it by the rules doesn't mean he's not going to get any back lash. There's a reason it hasn't been done since 2005.
@@MilesHolt Doesn't hold a candle to the loss those I've mentioned have made. #worthit
@@crnkin2 agreed
I think AMA handled this well, mxsports could have been a bit more clear with their intention of talking to Brennan and ensuring that the conversation was fair to Brennan. The rest of the people (sponsor, trainer, deegans) went from stepping over the line (deegans) to downright malicious (trainer, sponsor)
@@therawlifefamily AMA certainly weren’t the worst, but they will have lost a considerable amount of goodwill imho
To cut out all the noise, Yamaha should never have approch Brennan to try to change his mind, by doing so , in my opinion created the problem and handled this in an unprofesional way
That’s what gets me as well, Brennan claimed the bike, had the money and that should’ve been it.
There's nothing in the rules that a counter claim can't be made
@@stephenwilson1012 nobody counter claimed
@@stephenwilson1012 There can be multiple claims within the same 30 minute time frame. That was explained in the 2nd video, and where rules were changed to not allow a bogus counterclaim.
People forget Deegan was there too for that.
No mention of Brennan's bikes being pulled during the dealer's statement section. Brennan has lost his bike support. Is that not a relevant fact? Very incomplete coverage in that respect. It seems like this coverage starts from the assumption that all the big names involved MUST be innocent and they just need the right questions asked (and not asked).
The dealer was probably afraid of losing the franchise without any spoken threat. It makes sense. Michael, you commented a lot on his written statement and never mentioned that he took all of Brennan's bikes like 2 days later. Why not just report that happened and say you don't have the dealer's answer on it? That's true, no? Three parts, multiple interviews and no mention of the immediate aftermath involving two of the main characters, one of whom is an amateur who lost his ride.
I think the time ML recorded this that that was not known yet. Sponsor seems like a real piece of work.
If you ride for yamaha dont fuck whit Them. Thats just stupid
I feel the same way, commentator should have ask the question about the pulled sponsorship
Meh. Nobody really cares at this point. Walker is lying, Luce is lying. Lindsay and Mathis are starting to steer the conversation, making stuff up. We’ve already come to our conclusions. There’s nothing this clown can say that rehabilitates the 4 clowns involved.
Schofield is the most obvious liar in this situation and most definitely went into this race with a plan to claim the bike because he has a personal issue with Deegan
What they are saying is "we know the rules, we broke the rules, so change the rules" reminds me of someone orange.
@@rtsstream doesnt matter, he did it by the book.
@@crnkin2
still brainwashed to hate ? tds...really...and what has that to do with this? geezus
@@rtsstream
ok fanboy...go hug your deegan poster ...above your bed!!
I hope next year is a claiming frenzy, and heaps of kids/guys scoop up these top tier teams bikes
They won’t be top tier next year cuz everybody running scared now
That's why this Brennan kid needs to be applauded. He's keeping these massive teams honest.
give it 8 years. then do it
This interview is the most revealing so far. The money that goes into amateur bikes that win is beyond the normal budget. Maybe the claiming rule at Lorretta’s needs to stay the same and the factory support needs to go away
This is why the sport is unaffordable anymore. You’ve got big names with money asking for more. If that kid lost his ride because of this, that is sad. He didn’t break any rules, so why punish the kid?
It’s the American corporations way corruption greed and power my friend
This claim rule is great for most of the classes but 250b and pro sport should be exempt. These kids earned those rides and are preparing to go pro. If you don't want to race against factory bikes, sign up for a limited class.
@@andyhughes8051 if you don't want your factory bike claimed, don't bring it to a race with a claiming rule.
Don’t want your sponsors to get mad at you don’t bite the hand that feeds you.
For being a snake. 😆
Apparently Bobby doesn't understand the spirit of the rule. The idea is so you WON'T spend so much money on a bike, not change the rules so you can spend a ton of money on a bike.
Seems pretty obvious at this point that it's mostly the sponsors fault. It's the largest grey area. Sounds like they told the dad that Yamaha was pressuring them, when they in fact weren't, just to get his dealership out of the mud on this. If the plan of the dealership to take back the bikes after Walton was known to Brennan, as they had expressed, then Brennan would not have cared what the dealer said and went through with the claim. So that to me is a lie.
Exactly, had he known they were gonna take the bikes anyways they dang sure wouldn’t of have a reason to withdraw the claim! Heck he would’ve needed that bike more than ever then!
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@@RollTideRoll_GSP 🤣🤣
The ridiculous part is the dealership has nothing to do with it so why would he think the dealership takes negative heat? It’s a Canadian dealership consumers don’t give AS!!! He was pressured!!
@@terryfonz4603 the dealership has everything to do with this
The rule does not need changed. Double MSRP is plenty. That's 100% fellas, so as prices go up, so does the claim amount.
Deegans bike was at least a 40,000 bike guaranteed
@@jared6163 don’t run a full factory bike at an amateur national and if I didn’t make it clear AMATEUR National.
@@boom9023 when are these amateurs suppose to get real race experience on factory bikes before going pro?
@@jared6163 good.
@@jared6163 so the rule helps stop people like that from running bikes like that. The playing field needs to be more level not just for the rich.
There's nothing illegal about bringing the "pro" bike to that race if they run in the mod class. They just risk LOSING the pro bike if it would be claimed.
Unless you intimidate the buyer into withdrawing the purchase because the pro bike is loaded.
We will forever know that Yamaha is running works bikes at amateur events. They got away with it too.
"we were worried about the integrity of some parts" tough shit, shouldn't have brought them
What sticks out to me the most from all this is when Matt said his sponsor said "if you don't keep quite about this it will come back to bite you in the butt"...hmm I wonder why he lost his ride.
Guys do you really think Yamaha Corp. and Donny L or the dealer sponsor are gonna come on and say " Sure we put pressure on the dealer and threatened to remove support or dealership from him" come on be real that would be stupid..the amount of shilling for the factories, AMA, MX sports and the sport in general is sickening at this point...the kid followed the rules and got bullied,no bike and his sponsor pulled back his bikes...straight BS.
I don't know, seems pretty simple. DON't Bring a FACTORY engine to an Amateur event where an AMA claiming rule is in effect.
Or if you do, accept that it can be claimed!
Pretty shitty of Bobby Regan to throw shade at Brennan by going out of his way to interject that he figures Brennan was just greedy, that he claimed the bike in hopes of flipping it for its full value. That was gratuitous, and surprised me because I have watched and read way too much on this story and don't think I saw anyone else suggest flipping the bike was the motive.
Ditto
Regardless if he did want to flip it, it doesn’t matter wtf he wanted to do with it.
Oh the boy did say in one of the interviews that he said they could buy it back for a huge price. I can’t remember which.
@@Bodie2020 no he said buy it back for the same price he just wanted to ride it
Brennon had the right to reverse engineer & disclose anything about the bike and auction it for a lot of $. And now it looks like they almost lost their Factory secrets w a bike worth way more than $17k. And this vital mx is biased in favor of Brennon's opposition. Bobby Reggan stuttering and ahahhh... can't even speak stŕaight. Neither could Matt or the other two guys... Brennon & his motor guy were way more professional and believable. Everything combined show's Brennon got screwed.
Moving forward they shouldn't revile who the buyer is untill he picks it up. Never have them face off and ask questions of cores.. This will continue to happen again.
Bobby wants the AMA to up the dollar amount for a claim. He thinks no one should be able to get a $50,000 bike for 17K. OK I see your point,, but.. isn’t the spirit of the rule to be able to have “amateurs” able to afford the small scratch so they can play in the game? It’s either that or everyone on the gate has a $50,000 bike😆 What we still really want to know is why Brennans sponsor pulled back all of his bikes after Brennan abandoned his steak to the Star Yamaha bike? Seems like Brennan was trying to be good and loyal and ended up with the shaft. Brian should step up and buy the kid five new floor model ready bikes as good faith and be done with this. It’s a drop in the bucket for him. This olive branch of good faith will pay dividends for his brand. Do it now Deegan before a GoFundMe starts for this kid and you lose the opportunity
99% of the riders at LL would be elated to get 2x retail price for their bikes after Loretta's.
No way. Brian Deegan had nothing to do with this kid not claiming the bike. The kid said after Brian talked to he was still claiming the bike.The kid said Cotter had no influence on changing his mind either. With the adult support of the engine he was claiming it. Bobby Ragan thought it was a done deal . Dealer sponsor talking to dad and dad saying no is what dropped the claim. Period
After the two nasty snap chat messages brennan sent to deegan pre-race he shouldn't get s***.
@@robertchapman4488 And what were these messages?
I'll donate to Brennan. Poor kid got screwed
Even Star admits..the price gets you a great bike worth more than the claim value... and some parts have company info on them...yeah...and maybe stuff they want secret...don't Race it at a Claiming race... run what ya can afford to lose....
Why is the rule "still on the books" if this is the unreal bullshit you have to go though to claim a bike. Team showed up with a factory bike, got claimed according to rules, and they hit the roof and put a 17 year old in a room with bunch of grown men and applied the pressure. Putting a minor in a room alone and allowing people affiliated with the team having a bike claimed is quite possibly the worst idea I can think of. There is no amount of "everyone was cordial" you can say that anyone will believe. Conflict of interest much MX SPORTS and AMA?
Thats Brennens dads fault! No way I send my son with 18k to make a claim you know is going to get a lot of attention! Why the engine guy was doing most the talking and even called Ama a week earlier asking about how to go about making a claim?
@@ibelieve96 And your point is?
He should have stuck to his guns and kept the bike. Show these big teams that they can’t get away with Shit
The kid should of left with the bike. Period. Every word from any of those people involved was pressure to give up the claim. AMA should fine and penalize those involved just to retain the integrity of their rule book.
I'm guessing Star racing owns the bike. Wish that would 've been asked. The Bobby Regan interview was something... He said they were concerned and didn't want anyone to see inside the engine "it has distinguishing marks" and another word play was this is an amateur bike that has some pro parts on it. Really. No wonder why the kid was pressured so hard. Everyone says the claiming rule is great for amateur class for this very reason, don't race a bike worth 50k and parts you are not willing to lose
He said it has distinguished marks from the builders they buy parts from and they didn’t want that out there. It is a mod bike so it’s not an illegal bike. He said it’s not a pro bike that they ride.
@@toddstarrett3846 But he did say that it has pro bike parts on it. I would put money on it that the two motors are the same.
Without a doubt a factory pro engine with a ecu to go with it.
@@aus-rider Haha. No chance. If that was the same motor he would have blown everyone away even more.
@@JW-jh7zv Nope. Even Deegan himself said he has to earn that motor. Haha.
No the rule doesn't need to be updated. Certainly not to reflect 50k put into these amateur bikes. Stop bringing high spec bikes to amateur races. I hope next year 20 people claim the top riders bikes
Seems like the initial goal of this series was to frame this as a "big misunderstanding" when it was obviously a big, real conflict that affected some real people and possibly a lot of future sales. What part of this was a mistaken understanding by anyone? There is a well-known claim rule no one uses much, he boldly tried to use it, and a bunch of stakeholders got really angry in response. That is a natural conflict from all sides, not any misunderstanding. Any one of us probably would have acted like the people involved in each role. Why sugar-coat it? The answer to that is obvious, but still disappointing.
Regardless, that was a lot of interviewing, so props on all the work. We commenters sure couldn't have lined that up!
I forsure won't buy a yamaha ever now and as much as I like Eli and some of the other blu riders I can't say I'll support anything yamaha affiliated. It's sad that a multi million dollar organization can't admit they were wrong for running that bike at lorettas, wrong for getting mad someone was following a rule, then (we all know even though it won't be admitted) they put pressure on the sponsor which said and eventually still pulled their support. This story should have been star racing had an unobtainium bike at lorettas and courageous kid claimed bike, leveling the playing field done per the ama rulebook. But nope...let's get nasty political
@@thegrossmansmx they should have heard this was happening and got fired up to make sure their local dealer doesn't retaliate against a blue amateur and create a PR nightmare for them over one bike. Instead, at best, they just sat there silently in the meeting while the kid sweats. A little late now to save it, Yamaha. Lucky they have the best Japanese bikes right now. That's their only saving grace
@@KyleStrever yah I agree. From what I can see digging through all these videos comments, and social media comments, the majority has seen the corruption and im so glad. It's not about Brennan anymore. It's about time this shit gets settled. Factory teams or affiliates don't belong in amature racing period. They can be like NFL scouts at amature events but they shouldn't be lining up kids (under 18) under contract at amature events even if it's a showroom bike
@@thegrossmansmx did you NOT listen to the same report that I did? Brennan’s sponsor released a statement that at no time were they even contacted by Yamaha.
@@slynn5138 do you NOT understand that people are going to do anything they have to afterwards to cover up the situation? Of course they're going to say that now, especially if they were threatened by Yamaha, if they came out publicly saying "yea we almost lost our Yamaha relationship", that'd seal their fate with their license or relationship. It's a lose/lose situation. When humans are cornered, most do what they gotta do for survival. The kid should have never been approached or treated the way he was for following a legit rule. Another thing that could prevent this is someone not racing a 40, 50, 60, or 100 thousand dollar bike at an amateur event. End of story.
“Not to my knowledge...”
“I don’t believe…”
“I heard from…“
“As far as I know…”
“It depends on who you talk to…”
Big guys with lawyers talk last after they know what others said and how to respond.
Also matt Walker and luce contradicted each other heavily...Luce stated he did offer engines and a ride at the farm where as Walker said this didn't happen.... Pretty clear you're knee-deep up Yamaha's butt.... Bring in the engine guy who was threatened by and asked to fight walker.... it is very clear walker was the catalyst to all of this
Walker never said it didn't happen he said they talked about the deal hypothetically.
@@stampylove Walker was not there for the conversation.... I was there I heard him threaten the engine guy ... I heard him stir up the shop owner ... Walker is squarley to blame for all of this... th-cam.com/video/bztoQI_ZajA/w-d-xo.html
After part 2 , Over it 😡 just more BS💩 Amateur Racing is broken 👎Money and Power rule the sport . Rules are not for everyone. Black Eye to Motocross and Yamaha 👎kid followed the rule and got screwed . Shame on all those involved in Bullying the kid out of his claim .
Best way to solve this is allow the claimer to remain anonymous from everyone else until the process is done and they pick up the bike.
The rule is their for a reason, Through these interviews the rule seemed to be a well known fact by all, except possibly not Brian Deegan .Simply said do not bring it if information you do not want every person to know will be exposed is a working part on a rider's motorcycle. The meeting at Matt Walkers place in the camp had one intention and one only, out of their own mouth, Brennan was not leaving their with that bike. No rules
Bobby suggesting that Brennan was going to sell the bike to make money was so unprofessional. How can you believe anything Star Yamaha say after this attack on a kid that’s done nothing wrong
"It's not anybodies business where we buy our stuff from"
The rule has been there for years Bobby. If no one at your tearm foresaw this scenario, there's no one to blame but yourselves. I'm sure you realize this by now.
Do better, and thanks for running the Yamaha team and providing a ride for so many guys.
I think many factory teams will learn a lot after this, not just star
The guru has spoken folks
@@johnnyhopkins7297 😁😁😁
@@pop4783 Nah, the rules will/should change. Should not be able to claim 250b and pro sport bikes. There are plenty of other classes to race. Lets not punish the kids who are getting ready to go pro.
@@andyhughes8051 true there are mod classes and stock classes so if you can't afford a 25-50k dollar bike then maybe you shouldn't ride in the mod class and maybe go for the stock class instead. And if you win everything in the stock class, there is probably a big chance that you will get a factory ride
So what did he say to the kids dad? Why is he not actually going in to detail on why the actual claim was dropped since it’s obvious someone had involvement and it’s sad you guys aren’t asking the tough questions.
The question was asked but we can not force someone to go on record. They felt it wasn't a positive situation to be involved in. The sponsor doesn't want to drag Brennan through the mode or set fire to the situation any further. He just wanted to clear up the claims between his decision being influenced by Yamaha.
@@vitalmx sounds like a case of the industry covering their own behinds and throwing a kid to the wolves who followed the rules
Agreed, questions were weak.
Hopper dropped an interview tonight with Brennan. He flat out stated that because of all this he was forced to return the bikes and lost his sponsor and was told it was because of this situation.
@@ryanfowler2595 very coincidental all this happened then the following week the poor lad has to return all his yamaha bikes 😅...every1 feels obligated to get to the bottom of it but these people are still tip toeing. Outside looking in the kids been shafted and corp guys covering up. Otherwise right now he'd be riding a star 250f for 17k end of story.
So I’ve listened to all 3 of these and I’m getting a sense of downplay by the accused parties involved. I guess you can’t blame them because they don’t want to make themselves look bad. It’s total bullcrap that the sponsor talks to Brennan and his Dad about the situation which then convinces them to not follow through with the claim. AND THEN after they drop the claim, the sponsor drops Brennan. Absolute bullcrap! If it wasn’t for the sponsor persuading them to drop the claim, Brennan would have the bike right now, and be in the same position with the sponsor that he’s in right now with that sponsor. I’m still going with the feeling that the kid was bullied 100%. Matt Walker is a chump, “unspoken rule” this and that. What a pansy. The rule is there to be used, not unspoken about. Brian Deegan and the sponsor took the cowardly way out by making a statement instead of talking to you. If they have nothing to hide then they should show their faces while they talk on the matter. Follow your heart next time Brennan. You let all the outside noise ruin what you worked all year for by saving up that pile of cash.
I think Matt walker is a POS
Yeah. They aren’t clarifying or setting anything straight.
They can tell you whatever they want.
Bullying a 17yr old and ruining his sponsorship.
The adults should be proud of their behavior!!
Funny how Yamaha calls Brennan "greedy"
Bobby Regan does, he's Star, he's not Yamaha, let that be clear.
Bobby stays up late and didn't get any calls but all this was over at 915 so I seriously doubt he didn't know before he went to bed. This is a mess. Sad Brannan bikes got taken.
Too bad Deegan and Star are hiding something....disgusting way to treat the sport
They are hiding any liability beyond the price of the bike. Unfortunately for them it's a hideous attempt and only making things worse.
He feels so strongly about things but doesn’t want to address it or put his face out there? Must not feel as strongly as anyone else in this situation cause everyone else out there side of the story out there. Never thought that kids and dirt bikes could end up in such a messy crappy situation like this sucks for Hayden and Brendan
Hayden? Man. Sucks for Brennan. Haiden has got it all. Brenna lost all his support. He’s not a rich kid.
@@Jorgem1010
the engine builder talks Brennen into putting a claim on Haiden's bike the day before his big race...
does the guy in the getaway car get charged the same as the bank robber...?
Both Brennen and his engine builder are at fault here, they created the entire story...
calling Brian Deegan a Bully... you may also look into what constitutes a defamation of character case...
these kids, Brennen and his engine builder did not give two shits about Haiden, they wanted his bike, and they lied to get it. and they lied to smear Brian Deegan and Star Yamaha.
@@traveler142 your attempt to spread this BS isn't working.
@@traveler142 your comment makes no sense everyone verified why Brennan put the claim in I would’ve too like he said who wouldn’t want a factory bike
@@moto97productions82 Brennen and the engine builder are the losers in this case... they deserve all the good tidings they get.
lol, there coming I assure you.
Sounds like Brennan isn’t even sponsored by that dealer anymore so he should have just took the bike. Dude pressured them not too then sounds like he terminated the sponsorship anyways.
This guy says the rule needs to be updated because guys have $30k-$40k invested in their bikes, but that’s the whole point of the rule. The rule is to disincentives teams from spending more than double MSRP in upgrading their bikes to keep it more accessible to more people. If more people claimed bikes then teams wouldn’t spend outrageous amounts on bikes and it would be more competitive.
Sounds to me like the adults that had nothing to do with the claim made the final decision. Namely Matt Walker. The claim has nothing to do with him.
wait, didn't Brennen lose all his bikes and sponsor? For trying to do something that was perfectly legal?
I wanna see bikes claimed every race, that'd level the field.
AMA Claim Rule can't supercede State or Federal Law negotiating a $17,000 deal with a minor and using coercion to deter the minor and the threats on his sponsors dealership. And they come across looking like they had a lot to hide and a lot to lose. Brennon was wronged. I hope he get's way better and goes pro and battles for wins one day. He might be worth a competetive team giving him a factory ride w all the trainers and coaches the kids that were top 10 in his class. Kid earned his own money in a few months to do this is baller! Prayers for your future Brennon.
Thank you Michael Lindsay and Vital mx for following this story through.
It’s bullshit Brennan got dropped and lost his bikes when he took back his claim to avoid losing his sponsorship. Then through a text. Is told to bring his bikes back. I think this is wrong and should effect that dealership negatively. The kid did nothing wrong and tried to protect his sponsorship
Running damage control for theses clowns. That bike was obviously running 10-15hp on everybody there.
🤣
You're funny.
...but even if it was, it would still be legal for the mod classes where it ran.
How is $50,000 amateur spec?
Shame to do this to a kid with a dream. You helped the kid good. You’re saving your business great. The hell with yamaha they are bullies. Bunch of liars but what can we expect. We know they’re interests. But trying to Bury this kid is what is actually “coming to bite you in the ass”😂 Poetic Justice isn’t it. Read the comments. You are on the peoples bad side. Do right by Brennan maybe things can go away and you can clear your name. Or can you not drop your ego and keep up the lies and deceit on how you bullied a 17 year to keep your cheating technology.
figures the dealer wouldnt interview on camera. he talked them into pulling the claim then pulled the kids bikes.. i wouldnt show my face either if i pulled bs like that!!
With all due respect… this situation of “claiming a bike” was done under the approved and agreeable rules to this competition.
It is not the fault of the “claimant”, (rider Brandon).
Fault lays at the feet of the teams who invested mega dollars into an amateur competitive event.
Do not sit here, and try to lay blame at the rider.
Vital MX, it seems to me, you are supporting your access and established pro contacts.
What needs to be supported is the existing rulebook and the amateur racers who keep this sport alive.
Rules are Rules.
Excuses are Excuses.
Just follow the rules or change them.
Never owned a Yamaha for good reason. I’ve had a few friends have issues that Yamaha made worse. One had an issue with an ATV from day and after multiple dealers not being able to fix or find the problem Yamaha agreed to replace the ATV. He agreed showed up at the dealer to swap his for the replacement and they wouldn’t give it to him till he paid taxes and fees Yamaha added. Ended in court with him getting a full refund and then a Yamaha rep called him and asked if he’d like to order a new one as the new model year was coming out. They offered no discount or even an apology for backtracking on the deal they put in writing. Proves they use their power, money and lawyers to try to weasel out of their own word.
Time to unfollow all the channels that did one side of story. And engine guy Derek should buy this kid bikes the rest of his career . Kid had it out for Haiden for months and engine guy took advantage of it . And fake media jumped on it to make $ and get clicks not caring who they destroyed in the process . Really just hurts the sport and is best to not support those pages. Really just a sad situation. "IF" Dad and son make the claim with no bad intentions no prob .
that's why you should always wait for both sides of the story to come out. a bit funny that Vital MX is the only channel that wanted all parts in their videos, while the other channels only wanted one part on the side in their videos
@@pop4783 like @whiskeythrottleshow and you know the others . Not worth even mentioning.
They’re all out to make money off the story. It’s like watching a soap opera. Where’s the Unadilla Amateur video with Haiden? Time to post!
The rules dont specify anything to do with “intentions” or any other BS, the claim was made as per the rules the bike should be brennans no ifs, ands or buts
The "claim" rule is there to help keep cost down. I know people do but no one should have $30,000 in a amateur bike.
Sponsor = WEAK SAUCE
If an amateur bike is $40k something is wrong.
I have one final statement, then I'm dropping it. Walker couldn't even hardly look at the camera...nuff said.
Walker is an ego monger D bag
What a mess. As far as I'm concerned if the kid filed the claim properly and had the cash, that should have been the end of it. No meetings, no motor swapping, no bs. Everyone involved now looks like crap.
So Star Yamaha just admitted to having a 30-40k bike....shocker. Can't wait for the AMA claiming rule to boost that from 2x MSRP to 50k. Clown show
I 100% believe the dealership told them he'd lose his Yamaha license if they went through it...
How convenient that Star had to change the engine for some mysterious metal filings in the oil that nobody saw. Dirt bags
Brennan was still interrogated in a room alone with 2 adults. Complete BS…. I’ll never buy another Yamaha or support the Deegan even the owner admitted they brought a pro bike to a amateur race.
Thank you Michael for getting every angle and side from this story and allowing people to make their own judgement. I personally have not wanted to listen to any opinions on it so I could hear each persons take and this does it
I'm sorry but anyone from the Deegan camp saying they didn't know anything is complete bullshit they threatened a 17 year old out of a bike he claimed by the rules. They were fully cheating and got caught that's why they threatened the 17 year old. What a shame lost so much respect for that family.
Canada dealers name was on the bike , and he didnt want Deegans bike claimed and his company name involved, so requested the withdrawal. Then Brennan start doing interviews on youtube August 12th about the matter (Tylerlivesay) just before Wilton races. Dealer pulled all sponsorship as a result, IMO
prove me wrong
I think that every bike that rolls into Loretta's next in a tractor trailer should leave in the back of a pickup truck or Sprinter. Claim every one.
Can't wait for part 27
Seriously raise the claim price?
$8.5 k for a bike $1.5 k for a wheel set $1.5 for a pipe. $1k for bits and bobs $1.5k for some basic engine mods
And $3k for some real good B kit suspension.
What else does a amateur really need ?
so it looks like Yamaha paid for those high ceilings...
Why is everyone hung up with a rule change requiring a parent to be there to purchase the bike? How about some common sense and have a parent there when he’s being harassed by 2-3 adult men?
Ahh the Rattlesnake Rodeo! What a loving bunch of ethical people. Lol The Bidens of Mx
I’ve said it once I’ll say it again the 2 companies that screwed up here are Yamaha for being so confrontational against their amateur riders and the AMA/Loretta race coordinators for letting a parent confront a claimer, it sets a bad precedent for the rule especially considering the parent that did said confronting carry’s large influence. I think Brian Deegan posting about it and trying to assassinate the character of Brennan and his mechanic isn’t helping anyone he’s using emotional arguments and screenshooting Snapchat’s like a teenager, that doesn’t impress anyone but the 16 year old fan boys.
Hey guys don’t run parts that “we can’t have these parts be seen”
I'd like to see Yamaha and Star Penalized heavily, the way Brennan was attacked and bullied into retracting the claim is disgusting. So many people are pulling thier orders as they should, AMA should slap a heavy Fine and make them start next season with a huge negative points total. If Yamaha threatens to pull out of the sport let them, they'll either stop building bikes or come crawling back within 3 years.
We should focus on how to fix a situation maybe keep the claim/claimer secret until the claim is gone through.
There's also the problem with a claim after the race but would prevent it from being used in another scheduled race you can't take away a rider's bike what teams would be claiming each other's bikes to prevent some top guy from riding against their top guy
Yep. The claimant should be able to stay anonymous, nobody should be allowed to question or intimidate them in any way, anybody who attempts to interfere with the process should receive heavy fines and a ban from being at tracks for a lengthy amount of time. They suspend people who don't abide by the claim rule and the same punishment or more should be handed to anybody who attempts to manipulate the rider making the claim.
This is the most BS cover up story I've heard. Y'all knew what you had and if they really were going with the rules it would be his bike right now. Instead they intimidated and bullied him since his dad wasn't there and now he gets no bike. I'm so mad about this whole thing. If it was my kid Tim Cotter would be in the alpine stars med unit
Watch Johnny Hoppers latest interview with Brennan he has a text message from Mat W. Showing time. Sounds like you are twisting this all around.
No normal rider has 30-$40,000 in their bike. Most people have suspension, minimal engine work, pipe, clamps. That’s it. Get real. This is such a joke.
I wonder who told the sponser about the claim?
wasn't he at lorettas?
@@pop4783 Yeah, it's possible he just heard it through word of mouth.
@@wilburr1633 I think things spread really fast at Loretta's especially when it comes to big name riders
07:20 star admits to running a factory engine in an amateur event
I’m from a different time in Motocross bikes…When I raced at Loretta’s, his Trainer Matt Walker won the race, and I finished inside the top 10…we were both on Yamaha YZ125’s…I can’t speak for how Matt Walker’s YZ125 was set up, but mine had Factory Connection Suspension, a High-Compression Wiseco piston, Pro Circuit Pipe & R304 _Factory Sound_ Shorty Silencer, a Flywheel from a 1982 Yamaha YZ60 (because it lowered the rotating mass considerably thus providing a substantial increase in torque & I’m not sure if my race mechanic had to mill the YZ60 flywheel to make it fit or not…), my sprockets were custom machined Aluminum, but I didn’t do enough testing on sprocket size which wound up as a limitation because having too big a sprocket in the front & too small a sprocket in the back turned out to be too much for Loretta Lynn’s, I’m from New England & that was a setup that yielded great results at Southwick…which is a sand track that robs a lot of the bike’s power, so having that gear setup worked great there, but at Lorettas I ended up being off the throttle too much to keep the bike from getting away from me & landing me with a broken neck _(…which happened anyways in 2003)._ With modern bikes…technologically-speaking…SOMETHING WAS UP with Haiden Deegan’s STAR/Monster Energy/Yamaha. But it was a throw-away moto…he already DNF’d moto #2 when _Little Red Dog_ Evan Ferry’s footpeg got tangled in the spokes of Danger Boy’s front wheel. I believe they were using the throw-away moto to test the feasibility of unproven technology… I believe Deegan’s YZ250F’s motor had a dummy camshaft in it (to pass tech inspection) & instead had Electronic Controlled Valves which work independent from the camshaft & are controlled by the ECU. That’s why when Donnie Luce from Yamaha was in Matt Walker’s Pitt confronting Brennan who was accompanied by his motor guy Derek Harris, he said to Brennan “Listen, Matt told me you earned the money to do this working as a mechanic at his facility, but you aren’t going to be able to service this motor…neither is he” _[pointing at Derek Harris]_ the reason neither of them would’ve been able to service that motor is because in order to maintain the Valve timing, it would need proprietary, totally application specific computer software which would be impossible for Brennan or Derek Harris to get their hands on, unless Star Yamaha handed it over with the claimed bike…Honda’s iVTEC system utilizes Electronic Valve Control, which gives it completely situationally variable valve timing so I know the technology EXISTS & is being implemented _(…which makes it plausible…)_ but having the ability to adjust the engine timing would be totally necessary…as an example, the next time you’re out somewhere & you hear a 4-Cylinder engine being pushed to redline and furiously backfiring…that’s happening because some asshole either put different cam(s) in the engine, or switched the Camshaft Gears & didn’t make the necessary timing adjustments to compensate for it. That being said, a Fuel Map change could make it so the Valve timing would need to be set differently… and that sort of unreliability is why I believe Star Yamaha was using his _throw-away_ 3rd moto as a feasibility test….
Entirely plausible, esp when it comes to ECU circuitry size. Similar to changing rings on a 2smoke, the valve train seem to be a 'weak point'. Though I doubt Bobby Regan is being dishonest.
Quite the 'Krusty' genre fan, Deegan Sr. comes across as a hothead. IMO, he took it personally. As if another adult used 'undue influence' (a legal term), to provoke Brennan claim. Deegan Sr. should take a step back and contemplate an adult confronting his son, under such conditions.
As for juveniles and legal contacts. Brennan had his father's permission to make the claim. While typically juveniles can't have agency, Brennan can represent his father's agency over himself (by foregone permission).
When Deegan Jr. registered for the race, his father had to give a legal signature to acknowledge the contract terms to race. Therefore it's Deegan Sr. responsibility to know the rules and accept the risk. Now he has egg on his face b/c he doesn't have to read the rule book.
As a counterpoint, there seems to be a lot of complacency, paranoia, and wilful ignorance afoot. Look how many strawman fallacies were presented.
De Sr ~ 'Who put you up to this' ie this is not your motivation
Walker ~ 'It was apparent to me, someone else was behind this'
Even Brennan insinuated Yamaslaw corporate called his sponsorship.
13:07 As the oldest and most informed, Bobby Regan make the greatest point in review. Pro level bikes can be substantially more difficult to operate*, he admits to the bikes value, and everybody (should) knows the terms/rules before signing legal contracts.
^ie narrower band of high RPM for HP, ect.
I’d like to get more info on this RallyE Motoplex sponsor, why did he just do a statement, why’s he dodging interviews? Does he got something to hide? Why did he pull Brennan’s dad to the side to talk to him? What did he say to him? Where’s that interview at?
These guys are full of shit and the interviewer seems like he's toeing the line. The only reason they ran a stock engine the following day was to make sure someone didn't make another claim or protest to see if engine was legal.
Yamaha knew about the rules but they also knew nobody has claimed any bikes in years, they should have lost that bike especially since Brennan lost all his rides
The kid got bullied.
Lost a lot of respect for the Deegan’s and Yamaha for what went down at Loretta’s. That is some shady shit cornering and essentially intimidating a minor. Then Yamaha calling and putting the squeeze on his sponsors to drop him unless he does away with the bike claim. Check the link below to see Brennan’s full interview:
th-cam.com/video/8ZkJU8-IxMY/w-d-xo.html
Open ya ears ya muppet
Brennan’s interview doesn’t matter and you know why ??? His story changes every single time he does an interview. He lied about deegan and coter being the only ones in the room with him . He lied about Yamaha forcing him out of the deal his own father backed out of the deal after the sponsorship talked to his father . The sponsorship was never threatened Brennan just assumed . This kid was after deegan end of story it’s over . The truth has been set free . Brennan just made his main sponsor, his trainer , his motor builder and his entire family look bad with all of those lies he told in those interviews.
@@bradleywagner142 Got it the kid is lying and Yamaha and the Deegan’s are telling the truth. Thank you for opening my eyes! Because the kid is the only one who stands to gain anything from lying whereas Yamaha and the Deegan’s stand nothing to gain or lose from intimidating a minor without his parents/legal guardians present.
Why was he claiming a bike by himself. His dad should have been there. If his dad was not there who put up the money? This dude is not legit and has made several negative posts on social media about Deegan which puts him in a bad light.
Each interview that comes out the kid looks scummier and everyone looks better. The people screaming about this made up their mind day 1 and haven’t paid attention to anything else that’s come out. 10 people are lying and 1 kid that’s story changed a half dozen times already is honest. The intimidation part disappeared after 3rd interview, timeline went from 30 to 5 minutes, money savings went from 4 to 2 months, cornered by 2 adults with no ama to ama was there entire time and deegan asked him 3 questions and left, sponsor was threatened to sponsor didn’t like negative publicity and asked him to stop and never heard from Yamaha. Kid wanted TH-cam clicks and is a lame that ruined his sponsorship and career for publicity
Regardless of what Bobby Regan or the others say something happened that caused Brennan to drop the claim. He was pressured/coerced to drop it. They will say anything to make themselves look good in this considering how much press it has gotten.
There's a lot more backstory coming out that I didn't know about, that doesn't change much but gives more understanding to Brennan's true motives, whereas he has said he was just reading a rulebook and saw the rule and thought Star had the best bikes so that's why he picked that bike. What he didnt say, and not that it matters at all, Brennan had a run-in on the track with Haiden at a Loretta Lynn qualifier where they came together on the track and both went down. Brennan posted several Snapchats, saying he almost got a hole shot on a 30 hour bike and Haiden has a 100 thousand dollar fully modified bike. Then on another Snapchat he said that Haiden was on a full factory Star bike, but he should learn how to pass people like a normal person, and called him "danger girl Deegan pussy ass mf." Doesn't sound like the sweet innocent little boy that was "followed back to his pits by Haiden and his friends after he left the meeting with the AMA." Let's wait and see on this. Ok, the rule isn't that if someone claims the bike, you must give it up, you can refuse. If a team refuses, then the rider is DQ'd. So, since Brennan didn't get the bike, DQ Haiden in that class, the 250 B(I guess there is a one year suspension as well, but Haiden could race local and NMA events, heck, race Europe for year, maybe he would get some peace racing there). That should make everyone happy about that part of the story.
Totally agree with everything u said
@@justincampbell7800 thanks, I was not expecting much support.
Everyone seems to be ignoring this part of the story says a lot about the kids character and this has probably been planned for awhile.
@@USMC-1911 also, it may seem small, and people haven't said anything, but Brennan's story was that he read about the rule in the rulebook as he was going through the book one day. Brennan's engine builder said he mentioned the rule to Brennan at the Loretta Lynn qualifier at Freestone in March. Does those vastly different stories mean anything? To me, it shouldn't be dismissed and needs to be added into the conversation. To be honest, it looks like Brennan had some deep feelings against Haiden, and the engine builder may have suggested he could not only drive a bug up Haidens rear, but get that 100 thousand dollar bike Brennan was complaining about on his Snapchat,band he also said something about Haiden always having everything given to him. Seems like Brennan had quite a lot given to him, that he didn't seem to recognize, and he mentions having 5 bikes to ride provided by his main sponsor, the Canadian Yamaha dealer, and he even got a 125 to play with and do some "fun races with." See, that's what bugs me, is that Brennan had some really good long time sponsors that had really helped him get to where he's at, and when he did his claim, I personally thought he should have warned his sponsors, because he is a representative of them, and his actions effect them as well, but I think he knew not to do that, because he knew that would not likely approve.
@@dougdickason I remember the first story I read and they were portraying that they barely had the money to even get to lorretas and now we are finding out that wasn't close to being true the kid had a pretty sweet deal and that could be one of the reasons the dealer dropped him .
This is all a complete joke. So The dealer coincidently pulled the five bike from the kid AFTER the Haiden claim. This is all a complete scam and the only one getting screwed was the kid who played by the rules. If you believe the story they are pushing you are a sucker
Seems everyone has their own version of the truth and we will never know the complete story. Would love to know the complete story of what was said between the sponsor and the father. Not sure Luce will have a job next week. He seemed to be sweating bullets. I do think in the future that claiming should be an anonymous thing so there is no interaction between the claimer and the owner of the bike.
The dealer must of lied to Brennan and his dad about Yamaha putting pressure on him is really the only thing that makes sense to me
@@venicebeachsportsnetwork6677 no... I’ve never heard of even a seasoned pro getting 5 bikes from a dealership, therefore the dealer must have really liked and were all in on supporting Brennan. Than They gave him 2 days to return said bikes. Yamaha definitely making moves behind the curtains
It was upto Brennan and AMA, NO ONE ELSE SHOULD OF HAD ANYTHING TO DO WITH IT PERIOD