Tatiana has said she had no formal training. She learned to growl by going outside and screaming at cars. Probably not the most healthy approach but it worked for her.
Was going to post this myself, halfway through video during the "we forget how to make some sounds because we only practice our speaking voice" analysis. I feel one of the important facts here is that she recognized flaws and began improving her craft. Talent and self discovery.
Oh boy you've entered the rabbit hole of Jinjer lol Get ready for your comments to be full of recommendations. Their live sound is amazing and Tatiana is an absolute beast of a singer..
I was never a fan of screaming/growling before Jinjer. It's absolutely incredible how this can grow on you! After listening to this band for a while I literally feel that this is the band that gives me hope for the future of music. This band is incredible!
You: "It's not that she's jumping incredibly high." Tatiana: "Watch this...." And I love that when that moment came, you couldn't help but cover your eyes and laugh. Love your reactions!
First verse: "I love how she's playing with a little fry here..." Audience: 😈 If you want to do some more Jinjer then anything's good, but my personal recommendations would be: Teacher, Teacher (official video) Who Is Gonna Be The One (live 2017) Judgement (& Punishment) - one-take vocal performance (pretty much made for 'technical' reaction channels to get their teeth into)
@@Smido83 Hard disagree. I love what she does with layering in the studio recording, and the live performance, although excellent, loses a lot of nuance when it loses the extra parts.
@@Smido83 That’s a really musically ignorant statement. Multiple voice parts is just normal composition, not “digital shenanigans.” She sings all the parts herself and it’s not like they’re juiced up with autotune or a bunch of studio effects. She’s pretty damn talented at writing music, not just performing it. I prefer the song the way she wrote it and intended it to sound.
In addition to the excellent interview with Tatiana Elizabeth also has a video with Will Ramos, another harsh vocalist from the band Lorna Shore, where they did a laryngoscopy of him singing those crazy growls and screams. Great for voice pros to check out just to see what the entire vocal apparatus is doing.
I’m really glad that you’ve reacted to this, Tatiana is a vocal beast and a very talented lyricist. Your assessment of her vocals was really good very well done 💖💕💖
"She was too stunned to speak" ... Believe me, 9 out of 10 of us, especially when it comes to reactions to this song, are here for these very moments. And even if the big surprise moment may have been missing compared to others, these 9 out of 10 certainly had fun in the end. I at least did enjoy it, as I have in the past with other videos from you. :) I don't know if I've said it before, but I'm far away from being a singer and know zero to nothing about the subject, but I like listening to your explanations. Your friendly, easy-going style and probably also your experiences from the theatre make you come across as very likeable, not too strict, yet very informative. I really like that and therefore "thank you" that you still decided to listen to this song in full length and share your video with us. :) _____________________ 「 _'Our rock never dies ever. Forever!'_ 」 --- from *BAND-MAID* 'Manners' 🕊
I trained as a classical trumpet player in my youth and I'm far beyond my teenage angst and anger, but I appreciate talent and skill. The time signature changes, musician skill and vocal techniques of this song are a pleasant change from the run of the mill pop hits of today. Jinjer is a Ukrainian band who was forced to relocate to a different part of Ukraine back when Russian-backed separatists broke their home region away from Ukraine in 2014. The male members were initially required to stay in Ukraine in case of a draft when Russia invaded this year (they're out and on tour now). Their song "Home Back" was written about the 2014 experience, but it's sadly still very relevant and worth a listen and/or reaction. As always, great reaction. Thank you.
@@JenniferGlatzhofer "Home Back" official music video is a powerful piece of art in itself which very much compliments the heavy lyrical subject matter of the song. As someone with a musical theater background, I think you'd appreciate this video even if the music isn't quite up your alley. There's plenty to chew on vocally, as well. Be forewarned that much of the song is quite technical & quite heavy progressive metal, with an amazing switch of genre right in the middle, which I suspect you'd quite enjoy.
@@JenniferGlatzhofer P.S. You should have a lyrics sheet handy. The nature of the vocal technique plus the heavy music can make it difficult to understand some of the words.
Watching these reactions is my hobby!! There are 2 points in this song that I closely watch and "judge" the reactor. First is the obvious, the first scream/growl, the reactors are so shocked & stunned. Second is at the end when Tatiana instantly switches from the scream/growl to her belting clean voice, which for me is the highlight of Tatiana's performance, so the reactor's response is whether they get a like.
I wondered if you'd eventually get around to reacting to anything by Jinjer. Great fun! If you'd like to react to another of theirs I would suggest Perennial, live at Wacken Open Air 2019. You'll get to see Tatiana do her thing live in front of a quite a large audience. You did a wonderful job soldering through this one Jen. 😁 Looking forward to your next video.
Her straight tone singing and breath control are also really impressive in that performance. And the musicianship is exceptional. as usual. It's well worth checking out.
Great reaction Jen! I really love watching coaches react to Pisces. The startled look on someone's face the first time Tatiana starts 'growling' is only exceeded by amazement when she goes back to 'normal' singing. Great analysis also even though it is not what you typically review.
This was one of the best reactions to this song that I’ve seen. You said similar things that other reactors, in the music industry if you will, so that gave you credibility. However your personality shown through and was very fun to watch. Thank you. I’ve barely discovered Jinjer a couple months ago but this is one of my favorites now. 🤘🏻💥🔥🙏🏻💯
The brief noise conversation at the beginning before the vid starts got an immediate like. Was crocheting and had it on in the background and straight up snorted and laughed till my face hurt.
Hi Jennifer, I just discovered this on my recommended videos and I love your reaction and review. It’s always entertaining seeing first time reactions to Jinjer and Tatiana’s vocals. 😄 Elizabeth Zharoff of The Charismatic Voice channel did a great interview with Jinjer’s vocalist, Tatiana Schmalyuk, in which she described how she taught herself how to do the scream/growl vocals, first by screaming outside on the outskirts of her town (in Eastern Ukraine) and then by screaming in her pillow so she wouldn’t disturb anyone. I’ve been a musician since I was a young child, but I was never into metal music with scream/growl vocals until I heard Jinjer and another female fronted metal core band, Spiritbox, several months ago and now I’m a huge fan of both bands due to their interesting songwriting, excellent musicianship and the fantastic vocals of Tatiana and Courtney from Spiritbox. They both have the ability to instantly transition back and forth from beautiful clean singing to some of the best scream/growl vocals I’ve heard. I would highly recommend checking out the official video for Jinjer’s song Wallflower. It’s a very well written song with a cool vibe and 80-90% of the song has beautiful clean vocals from Tatiana.
Tati is basically self-taught. Rumor has it that she used to go out and learned to do her growl over traffic noise. Her inspiration comes from a female artist named Otep who pretty much pioneered female vocal distortions. If you'd like, check out her music. I would recommend the song "Blood Pigs". Otep and her band frequently take song structure and throw it out the window
I’ve to say that this is the best reaction and analyse video there i saw jet, for so far… you talk the most assertive and realist respect to her kind of tecnique.
Absolutely love Jinjer. Trust me, they hold up live. Genuinely felt like the recording was holding Tatiana back; you NEED to go to a live show of theirs in your life
A great reaction, thank you. Jinjer is a band from the Ukraine. Jinjer are: Tatiana on vocals, Eugene is the bassist, Roman is on guitar, and Vlad is the drummer. I suggest that you check out the following tracks by them; 'Perennial' live at Wacken open air festival from 2019, 'Judgement (and Punishment)" Tatiana's one-take vocal version (this is good for you to react to, as it shows her from the head down to her ribcage close up), 'Teacher Teacher' the official music video, 'Home Back' the official music video (this is about the 2014 invasion of the Donesk region where they're from by Russian troops), there are other tracks too but these are good ones to start with.
Nice reaction. Kudos for stepping outside of your comfort zone and still providing some really insightful analysis. I have heard some female growlers say their first step in finding this sound was to sigh or hurumpfh like a teenage girl upset and exasperated by her parents.
She is incredibly talented at clean and harsh vocals, no doubt, and more than just technical, she expresses so much emotion in every note, just an amazing human all around. My favorite technical skill to point out is her ability to switch between vocal styles, she has range and versatility, but her seamless transitions make it feel all the more authentic
Thank you for a wonderful reaction. The first time I heard this, I was like...how can that voice come from someone with such and angelic voice. And then she just switches between the two like it is nothing. I have heard this many, many times, and I am still awed.
STELLAR!!! :-) So glad you reconsidered miss. As you say its a learning experience for ALL of us. You are far more competent and capable of commenting on any form of singing than you give yourself credit for. I think because you're so open minded that you'll always give an honest reaction and interpretation, which is all we want. Well done miss, you are an absolute gem, keep up the amazing work and NEVER apologize for stepping out into unknown territory, you never know what you might find to enjoy :-) Dont give a second thought to the trolls that try to bring you down....what have they contributed to the world after all? Aside from snide, asinine comments. They arent worth your time or energy to consider. ;-) Yeah Tatiana is a vocal goddess. One of the only metal singers that stays engaged below their false cords and actually modulates the pitch in her screams...mind boggling talent. PS, if you happen to actually see this, my mom loves your nail polish color and wants to know what it is *smh*
So glad to see you having fun it's been so nice to see your journey thank you for your time and work that nobody sees it is truly a task to make it appear natural 😊
Jen, you‘re brave entering the ground of the lioness. The background of yours is different. I very much appreciate the way you did it and I luv your reactions loads. Good job, thanks.
As someone who is classically trained and also trained with doing "metal voices", it's actually much easier to do the growls/screams than it is to sing and if done correctly puts virtually no stress on anything 🙂
You have now been Tatiana'd. Congrats and welcome to a group of some of the most talented musicians in current music. From the music, lyrics, instruments and stage presence. Thank you for this reaction!
She discovered this kind of vocalization was possible from listening to Otep for the first time and instantly becoming obsessed and determined to train herself to do the same. Years of self-taught practice led her here.
I would love to see your theater brain wrap around some Iron Maiden. They are very theatrical and the singer is amazing. Check out “Hallowed Be Thy Name” live. I really think you will appreciate it
Jinjer are masters in every aspect of their music - from song writing, arrangement, musicianship, vocals, and visuals. You must see and react to 'Perennial' live at Wacken - Tatiana live will leave you even more amazed!!!
I loved this reaction and analysis as much as I enjoy any other you've made. First of all, you have never been rude to any artist. You've just said you prefer to keep vowels closer to their original shape. Second of all, it is indeed amazing what the voice can do, even if not all sounds will appeal to everyone. One of the things I love about your videos, besides your infectious joy, is how you are so natural and are not trying to say what others want to hear. I love when you say that we can click off the video if we don't want to put up with the pauses. That makes me want to stay even more. Just be Jenn. We love Jenn.
Loved your reaction. Watch Who is Gonne Be The One. Live. She gets so low and she is such fun to watch. She has a real presence about her. Hard to believe she’s an introvert and shy and has to fight with herself to get herself on stage. I get to see her live in August. I can’t wait!!! Pure talent. No voice lessons. She’s amazing.
If you are interested enough... Elizabeth Zharoff (The Charismatic Voice) did one of her "Tea Time" interviews on her channel with Tatiana here. I know you were wondering about how she explored her voice so much she found this, well it might be answered there. But I don't recall any details of what they spoke about! But loved your analysis and reaction!
Great reaction. The band is fantastic, and Taiana is a vocal goddess. She had a few vocal lessons and started singing when she was 8. When she was 15 of 16 a friend played her Otep and it was the first time she heard a female singer growl. She was determined to learn it and worked on it for years while singing in bands. She is such a master of her voice now she can switch word to word. As some others had mentioned below you need to hear her live. Next try "Perennial" live at Wacken 2019. You'll really enjoy it!
Never gets old. I’m forever jealous of people who get to experience Jinjer for the first time. I was never really into metal so much until I heard them, but there are so many other elements to keep it interesting and different while still sticking true to the metal genre. Plenty of recommendations so won’t add to them. Would love to see more but see how you go 😊
Tati uses MOSTLY false fold scream in this song, but she also hits some fry screams as well. Most singers choose one or the other, especially because the volume levels can be quite different. She is truly magnificent to be able to do both styles so well and keep them both fairly close in volume.
I hate fry screaming lol, soo rough on the throat and soo unhealthy to do. I can false fold scream for hours but fry screaming will kill me in 20 minutes, I don't know how bands who only fry scream can get through an entire show. not to mention they're literally putting a time limit on the band by ruining their vocal chords lol
Really nice adjustment reaction! You accepted that professionally and open minded;)! Well done! They are an amazing band, and you will not be disappointed listening/reacting to their other videos/songs. Enjoy! She was turned on to this vocal approach by other female singers that could already vocalize this way- and then LOTS of trial and error/practice!
It's ok to be less vocal coach and more of our buddy/friend we enjoy listening music with. Loved it! Quick recommendation : 14.yo. Diana Ankudinova - Rechenka. Interesting folk song with many unusual segments sang with her unique style and voice.
This song might as well be tailor made for reaction channels, with both the music and clean vocals lulling you into a state of calm at the start, before slapping you in the face with the switch. A few more switches to get used to it, then in the final verse she switches so quickly and adds so much more power to it that it leaves you a little stunned. It really is the perfect introduction to Tatiana, which is probably why it's such a popular request.
As a person who has mastered the kinds of vocals Tati does in this song, it absolutely does feel like two different techniques. And ironically, it's singing cleans that hurts my throat over time more than the growls do lol. I'll give you a basic tutorial of how to try and get that growl in a healthy manor. Make sure to keep your throat soft by drinking water often when practicing. step 1) exasperate like you've just sunk into the couch after a long day. That rumble in the back of your throat is what you're after. step 2) try and sustain that reverberation by pushing air out through your diaphragm. This part is where you can hurt yourself if you're engaging your main vocal chords. If it starts to get uncomfortable or hurt, stop and rest. I wouldn't push sessions past 10 minutes at first. step 3) once you can sustain the basic growl for a bit you just need to learn how to modulate it's pitch, which is a combo of vowel control, air pressure, added vocal fry (that's how she says DEATH) and little bit of muscle control in the back of the throat. bonus fun fact, if you can learn to do this technique well it's also pretty much the same technique used for subharmonics which is how I can hit E1's on occasion lol
She did an interview with Elizabeth Zharoff on the charismatic voice channel and discussed how she discovered the sound and trained herself to sing in that way. It's a cool story
They were actually playing tonight in Derbyshire, Bloodstock Open Air, their only date in the UK this year. Next year they will tour in the UK a full month in march. They have plenty of catchy songs to discover that you might even like, 'better' than Pisces, which is mostly chosen as a first introduction to the group because there is such a change during that it takes the listener off guard. For instance "Perennial (live at wacken)", "I Speak Astronomy", "Judgement & Punishment", "Vortex", "Wallflower".
Loved it! You were right to hold off until now, so you’re really established as a knowledgeable reactor. This isn’t your wheelhouse, so we know not to expect you to explain that demon voice, but you can talk with some authority about what is happening with her voice as a whole. And yeah, that demon thing is kind of terrifying. I’ve gone on to listen to some of their other music, but honestly I just am not into metal. I really like this song, distortions and all-love the constantly evolving time signatures (that drummer is a beast-I guess this video was made to introduce him, as he was their newest member at the time). Tati has a beautiful voice, nice range, great belt, love that kind of husky timbre, but honestly it’s the crazy distortions that make her so unique. Basically everybody in this group is extraordinary, even if I’m not that into their chosen style of music. Anyway, I’m glad you did eventually come around to this-loved your insights!
Great reaction. Awesome analysis too. Tatanias vocal ability is truly astonishing. Have a look at Teacher Teacher. That also demonstrates her ability, in a harsher setting.
Jen, you should know that your impersonations of Tati's growled inflections and little aspirate nuances are everything! While I doubt there's another Jinjer reaction in your immediate future, I highly recommend that you find 5 minutes to check out Perennial live at Wacken just to see how fast she can flip-flip from growl to belt and back again in a proper live setting. While she's jumping around lol. Basically what we are seeing here is nothing in comparison. Many thanks!
Oh boy. If you wanna see what she can really do live, you HAVE to react to Perennial (live at Waken) or Judgement (and punishment) live one take vocal playthrough. The whole band is amazing, and work soo well together.
Tatiana switches quite frequently in Teacher Teacher. Looking forward to your next reaction. Love the way you break down the songs. I’ve learned quite a bit just watching your reactions.
Again, I thought I had commented but, what a great reaction to my favorite Jinjer song! I only wish Tati would sing this song as in this session. It is such a classic and shock. I didn't like her growls at first but quickly fell in love with the dichotomy of her singing voice. Try "I Speak Astronomy", it is neat as well. Thanks Jen!🥰
Take a look at how low bass singers get subharmonics, it'll give you a better idea of where this vocal style comes from. You can learn to use the false fold for a low growl and the singing voice will engage similtaniously with the not a 5th above to create a power chord. That's why it sounds so powerful.
Thank you for saying you are sorry. Not needed.!!!!!!!!! This group is different, yet darn good. Hope you like it!!! Also keep in mind that this girl is self taught and English is a second language to her.... There is a video on TH-cam where she talks about hearing this style and how she figured it out... Very informative, plus you hear her speaking voice. This lady is a deluxe performer!!! Take care and Merry Christmas....
Jinjer is my favorite band, so I always have to check out new reactions for this song (and Perennial Live as well as Judgment & Punishment One Take Performance). Most of the newer reactions to this song come across as fake to me. Your reaction was a pleasant surprise. And I have to add that I was having a horrible day, but your laughs and smiles are infectious, so thanks for that! I really hope to see more of your reactions to this band!! PEACE!! :)
Tatiana really is amazing. As you listen more you will also appreciate the band talent around her - then you hear the way they mesh together so well - then you realize they are fantastic and why haven't you listened sooner. They shine in live performances - check out Perennial live at Whacken to see her stage presence and realize 30-40 minutes into a set she can still do all the ranges she has. Jinjer really is something different out there in the metal world today. 🤘
First track from Jinger that I heard was "Sit Stay Roll Over" I've been hooked ever since. Still can't stop watching "Pisces" and "Teacher, teacher" reactions and it always warms my heart when people appreciate her voice and the entire bands awesomeness. Great reaction (It seems everyone does the nervous laugh when it really kicks in😁)
I love people are still reacting to Jijer. Teacher teacher is another amazing performance, or if you wana see a 100% close cam of her singing, 'Judgement (punishment) 1 take' is also a big hit.
It is always troubling to me whenever a reactor feels the need to apologize for not liking this or that. I find it impossible that with all the genres of music and all the different bands within those genres making different sounds that somebody would like it all. But sadly that is what we, your audience demand. "Play my song and like it damnit" For whatever it's worth I always applaud you guys who are willing to step away from your comfort zone and experience something new, like it or not. 👏👏👏
Oh, Jenn, I love how you setup like you know what's coming and then you just flinch and your eyes widen and you pause the moment first chorus ends ... yeah, Jinjer and Tatiana are doing different things; wonderful, wonderful things, but different things :) also, yah! another reactor who understands that Tati's belt is an entirely different (3rd) voice yeah, it's all epic
Tati is a beast! The thing that amazes me is how clear her annunciation is when she does the growls in this particular song. My initial thought was DEMONIC activity, but after watching a few other reactors I understand the mechanics of how this is affected better. Kudos to Julia Nilon for part of that. Jenn, you are and will always be one of my top 5 reactors. I believe every woman needs to develop this talent, if nothing else you can imagine the effectiveness in handling children or a spouse. Enjoy the mental image.... Love you and your channel, Jenn.
I am actually quite new to harsh vocals myself. But the best way to try it yourself...without hurting yourself, is to make a long 'O' with your mouth, but slowly clear your throat to make the sound. You can play around with that feel and make all sorts of new sounds, they say not to try to add words yet, as you will likely use your true folds and hurt something. :) If you get really adventurous I would check out one of Lorna Shore's one take performances. I'd say "And I Return to Nothingness" on the Channel "The Will Ramos." The reason I like the one takes is you get to watch him up close, "singing" live, so you get to see all the facial and mouth movements you love to see, but with new sounds behind them.
Though not a live performance, I would suggest listening to their track I Speak Astronomy. It's quite progressive musically, there is a higher ratio of clean vocals to growls and you can hear Tatiana doing some epic high belts at the end (note: there is a false end to the song).
This was my first time watching you, great reaction and explanations! Since you are trained in musical theater I’d highly recommend watching Iron Maiden doing Hallowed be thy Name live in 83 I think. That was when Bruce Dickinson was at the height of his “human air raid” powers. His approach reminds me a lot of musical theater. Ooh, the performance of Scared of the Dark in Brazil could be right out of a Broadway production, check that out too. He’s older in that but still great.
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Tatiana has said she had no formal training. She learned to growl by going outside and screaming at cars. Probably not the most healthy approach but it worked for her.
Was going to post this myself, halfway through video during the "we forget how to make some sounds because we only practice our speaking voice" analysis. I feel one of the important facts here is that she recognized flaws and began improving her craft. Talent and self discovery.
Also English isn't her native language which makes this more impressive
She also used to scream into a pillow when she was home. Also because English is not her native language she’s very concerned with pronunciation.
@@steveb1837Where is she from?
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Oh boy you've entered the rabbit hole of Jinjer lol Get ready for your comments to be full of recommendations. Their live sound is amazing and Tatiana is an absolute beast of a singer..
Ahaha I did it 😱 oh she definitely is!
@@JenniferGlatzhofer perennial live at Waken. Shows her true performance with talent. She is amazing. I highly recommend it
This^^
This comment is true in every aspect lol.
I am new to Jinjer and cannot get enough!They are truly all world class musicians in every aspect!!
I was never a fan of screaming/growling before Jinjer. It's absolutely incredible how this can grow on you! After listening to this band for a while I literally feel that this is the band that gives me hope for the future of music. This band is incredible!
I was never a fan of growling/screaming until I started listening to Epica. Now I'm getting around to listening to Jinjer and loving it.
You: "It's not that she's jumping incredibly high."
Tatiana: "Watch this...."
And I love that when that moment came, you couldn't help but cover your eyes and laugh. Love your reactions!
First verse: "I love how she's playing with a little fry here..."
Audience: 😈
If you want to do some more Jinjer then anything's good, but my personal recommendations would be:
Teacher, Teacher (official video)
Who Is Gonna Be The One (live 2017)
Judgement (& Punishment) - one-take vocal performance (pretty much made for 'technical' reaction channels to get their teeth into)
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Teacher Teacher live @Melbourne is leaps and bounds better then the official video!
@@Smido83 Hard disagree. I love what she does with layering in the studio recording, and the live performance, although excellent, loses a lot of nuance when it loses the extra parts.
@@mattr7994 Thats exactly why I DONT like the studio recordings... Live she shows her true talents... no digital shenanigans, just raw talent!
@@Smido83 That’s a really musically ignorant statement. Multiple voice parts is just normal composition, not “digital shenanigans.” She sings all the parts herself and it’s not like they’re juiced up with autotune or a bunch of studio effects.
She’s pretty damn talented at writing music, not just performing it. I prefer the song the way she wrote it and intended it to sound.
Welcome to the Jinjer rabbit hole! You next need to react to “JINJER - Perennial (Live at Wacken Open Air 2019)”
Awesome reaction and explanation. There is a good interview with her on The Charismatic Voice channel.
Oh!! I need to check that out, thank you 😁
In addition to the excellent interview with Tatiana Elizabeth also has a video with Will Ramos, another harsh vocalist from the band Lorna Shore, where they did a laryngoscopy of him singing those crazy growls and screams. Great for voice pros to check out just to see what the entire vocal apparatus is doing.
@@BTAColorado just wanted to add that absolutely interesting indeed
I’m really glad that you’ve reacted to this, Tatiana is a vocal beast and a very talented lyricist. Your assessment of her vocals was really good very well done 💖💕💖
Thank you 😁
I showed this video to my girlfriend, she's a voice rehabilitator and voice coach. Her jaw dropped instantly when she began to growl.
"She was too stunned to speak" ... Believe me, 9 out of 10 of us, especially when it comes to reactions to this song, are here for these very moments. And even if the big surprise moment may have been missing compared to others, these 9 out of 10 certainly had fun in the end. I at least did enjoy it, as I have in the past with other videos from you. :)
I don't know if I've said it before, but I'm far away from being a singer and know zero to nothing about the subject, but I like listening to your explanations. Your friendly, easy-going style and probably also your experiences from the theatre make you come across as very likeable, not too strict, yet very informative. I really like that and therefore "thank you" that you still decided to listen to this song in full length and share your video with us. :)
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This might be the cutest reaction I've seen to Jinjer so far! 🥰
Hope you will keep reacting to more Jinjer songs! Next one should be "Perennial (live at wacken open air 2019)"
I trained as a classical trumpet player in my youth and I'm far beyond my teenage angst and anger, but I appreciate talent and skill. The time signature changes, musician skill and vocal techniques of this song are a pleasant change from the run of the mill pop hits of today.
Jinjer is a Ukrainian band who was forced to relocate to a different part of Ukraine back when Russian-backed separatists broke their home region away from Ukraine in 2014. The male members were initially required to stay in Ukraine in case of a draft when Russia invaded this year (they're out and on tour now). Their song "Home Back" was written about the 2014 experience, but it's sadly still very relevant and worth a listen and/or reaction.
As always, great reaction. Thank you.
Thank you for sharing that. And thanks for watching 😊
Oh, I meant to mention that they’re selling merch with the proceeds (as well as some proceeds from their concerts) going to help fund the war effort.
@@JenniferGlatzhofer "Home Back" official music video is a powerful piece of art in itself which very much compliments the heavy lyrical subject matter of the song. As someone with a musical theater background, I think you'd appreciate this video even if the music isn't quite up your alley. There's plenty to chew on vocally, as well. Be forewarned that much of the song is quite technical & quite heavy progressive metal, with an amazing switch of genre right in the middle, which I suspect you'd quite enjoy.
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@@JenniferGlatzhofer P.S. You should have a lyrics sheet handy. The nature of the vocal technique plus the heavy music can make it difficult to understand some of the words.
Watching these reactions is my hobby!! There are 2 points in this song that I closely watch and "judge" the reactor. First is the obvious, the first scream/growl, the reactors are so shocked & stunned. Second is at the end when Tatiana instantly switches from the scream/growl to her belting clean voice, which for me is the highlight of Tatiana's performance, so the reactor's response is whether they get a like.
I wondered if you'd eventually get around to reacting to anything by Jinjer. Great fun! If you'd like to react to another of theirs I would suggest Perennial, live at Wacken Open Air 2019. You'll get to see Tatiana do her thing live in front of a quite a large audience. You did a wonderful job soldering through this one Jen. 😁 Looking forward to your next video.
Oooh thanks so much!!! 😁
Her straight tone singing and breath control are also really impressive in that performance. And the musicianship is exceptional. as usual. It's well worth checking out.
Yup looking forward to Perennial🤘 live at Wacken Open Air 2019. 😉
I don't usually listen to this type of music but Perennial is definitely my favorite song from Jinjer, so definitely recommend that one! :)
@@Richard.Linder So correct my man. Especially that was the last song of a full set... and still brought 110% vocals and performance.
Great reaction Jen! I really love watching coaches react to Pisces. The startled look on someone's face the first time Tatiana starts 'growling' is only exceeded by amazement when she goes back to 'normal' singing. Great analysis also even though it is not what you typically review.
I've been waiting for this. Now I can turn off the Internet forever. Thank you.
This was one of the best reactions to this song that I’ve seen. You said similar things that other reactors, in the music industry if you will, so that gave you credibility. However your personality shown through and was very fun to watch. Thank you. I’ve barely discovered Jinjer a couple months ago but this is one of my favorites now. 🤘🏻💥🔥🙏🏻💯
The brief noise conversation at the beginning before the vid starts got an immediate like. Was crocheting and had it on in the background and straight up snorted and laughed till my face hurt.
Hi Jennifer, I just discovered this on my recommended videos and I love your reaction and review. It’s always entertaining seeing first time reactions to Jinjer and Tatiana’s vocals. 😄 Elizabeth Zharoff of The Charismatic Voice channel did a great interview with Jinjer’s vocalist, Tatiana Schmalyuk, in which she described how she taught herself how to do the scream/growl vocals, first by screaming outside on the outskirts of her town (in Eastern Ukraine) and then by screaming in her pillow so she wouldn’t disturb anyone. I’ve been a musician since I was a young child, but I was never into metal music with scream/growl vocals until I heard Jinjer and another female fronted metal core band, Spiritbox, several months ago and now I’m a huge fan of both bands due to their interesting songwriting, excellent musicianship and the fantastic vocals of Tatiana and Courtney from Spiritbox. They both have the ability to instantly transition back and forth from beautiful clean singing to some of the best scream/growl vocals I’ve heard. I would highly recommend checking out the official video for Jinjer’s song Wallflower. It’s a very well written song with a cool vibe and 80-90% of the song has beautiful clean vocals from Tatiana.
Tati is basically self-taught. Rumor has it that she used to go out and learned to do her growl over traffic noise. Her inspiration comes from a female artist named Otep who pretty much pioneered female vocal distortions. If you'd like, check out her music. I would recommend the song "Blood Pigs". Otep and her band frequently take song structure and throw it out the window
I know this is a really old comment, but I just had to comment on the Otep inspiring Tati thing. That's really cool. Otep slapped
Still slapping. ;) One of my barely adult nephews showed up to last year's reunion in an Otep shirt he bought at a concert.
loved ur reaction, and the stunning vocal range on JINJER performance )
Never apologise for pausing and letting us know your thoughts n feelings,it's the best part for me,respect fae Scotland
I’ve to say that this is the best reaction and analyse video there i saw jet, for so far… you talk the most assertive and realist respect to her kind of tecnique.
Oh thanks so much!
Best thing you said,”how is this real!?” Agreed. I’ve seen it in person. It’s real.
Absolutely love Jinjer. Trust me, they hold up live. Genuinely felt like the recording was holding Tatiana back; you NEED to go to a live show of theirs in your life
A great reaction, thank you. Jinjer is a band from the Ukraine. Jinjer are: Tatiana on vocals, Eugene is the bassist, Roman is on guitar, and Vlad is the drummer. I suggest that you check out the following tracks by them; 'Perennial' live at Wacken open air festival from 2019, 'Judgement (and Punishment)" Tatiana's one-take vocal version (this is good for you to react to, as it shows her from the head down to her ribcage close up), 'Teacher Teacher' the official music video, 'Home Back' the official music video (this is about the 2014 invasion of the Donesk region where they're from by Russian troops), there are other tracks too but these are good ones to start with.
Cruising through TH-cam….. oh wait! A reaction to Jinjer Pisces….. I so gotta watch that!!!
You! are my new favorite reactor, just made up my week. Thank you
Nice reaction. Kudos for stepping outside of your comfort zone and still providing some really insightful analysis. I have heard some female growlers say their first step in finding this sound was to sigh or hurumpfh like a teenage girl upset and exasperated by her parents.
Love that, I shall try hahah!
I think of it as a throat clearing action or a harumph to get attention.
It's also called #MomVoice like when she tells you to get to bed or clean up your room or stop annoying the cat.
5:05 Loyaltay, oh but of course dahling, so posh.
She is incredibly talented at clean and harsh vocals, no doubt, and more than just technical, she expresses so much emotion in every note, just an amazing human all around. My favorite technical skill to point out is her ability to switch between vocal styles, she has range and versatility, but her seamless transitions make it feel all the more authentic
Thank you for a wonderful reaction. The first time I heard this, I was like...how can that voice come from someone with such and angelic voice. And then she just switches between the two like it is nothing. I have heard this many, many times, and I am still awed.
STELLAR!!! :-) So glad you reconsidered miss. As you say its a learning experience for ALL of us. You are far more competent and capable of commenting on any form of singing than you give yourself credit for. I think because you're so open minded that you'll always give an honest reaction and interpretation, which is all we want.
Well done miss, you are an absolute gem, keep up the amazing work and NEVER apologize for stepping out into unknown territory, you never know what you might find to enjoy :-) Dont give a second thought to the trolls that try to bring you down....what have they contributed to the world after all? Aside from snide, asinine comments. They arent worth your time or energy to consider. ;-)
Yeah Tatiana is a vocal goddess. One of the only metal singers that stays engaged below their false cords and actually modulates the pitch in her screams...mind boggling talent.
PS, if you happen to actually see this, my mom loves your nail polish color and wants to know what it is *smh*
Oh thank you so so much 😁 such a sweet comment! I have my own gel kit at home ahah, this is Spring 2022 from Diva World 😊
One of the best reactions to Jinjer for me! Good job!
3:27 One can't not smile back when she smiles.. Infectious smile 101
She’s a vocal beast who will rip your lungs out ! Fucking awesome
Tatyana switch from the Clean vocals to the Growls and back to the clean voise in a Split of a sec .
Great review. You and The Charismatic Voice, Elizabeth, are my 2 favs in the Review World...KUDOS
Watched them (Jinjer) last night as they opened for Slipknot. And her vocals is just as amazing live!
So glad to see you having fun it's been so nice to see your journey thank you for your time and work that nobody sees it is truly a task to make it appear natural 😊
Thank you 😊
Jen, you‘re brave entering the ground of the lioness. The background of yours is different. I very much appreciate the way you did it and I luv your reactions loads. Good job, thanks.
As someone who is classically trained and also trained with doing "metal voices", it's actually much easier to do the growls/screams than it is to sing and if done correctly puts virtually no stress on anything 🙂
Scared AND happy. I love this reaction/analysis!
You have now been Tatiana'd. Congrats and welcome to a group of some of the most talented musicians in current music. From the music, lyrics, instruments and stage presence. Thank you for this reaction!
She discovered this kind of vocalization was possible from listening to Otep for the first time and instantly becoming obsessed and determined to train herself to do the same. Years of self-taught practice led her here.
I remember Otep and this comment is valid. To me the band also sounds like Opeth. Lots of O's
Jinjer is an amazing band! I love watching people react to this video.
I would love to see your theater brain wrap around some Iron Maiden. They are very theatrical and the singer is amazing. Check out “Hallowed Be Thy Name” live. I really think you will appreciate it
WATCH HER IN TEACHER TEACHER SHE WILL BLOW YOUR MIND
Excellent..reaction Jen!! Love you... Jinjer is phenomenal
Trained false vocal chords!! 😆 Loved your reaction!
Jinjer are masters in every aspect of their music - from song writing, arrangement, musicianship, vocals, and visuals. You must see and react to 'Perennial' live at Wacken - Tatiana live will leave you even more amazed!!!
This was fun
I lol’ed a couple time 🤣
I loved this reaction and analysis as much as I enjoy any other you've made.
First of all, you have never been rude to any artist. You've just said you prefer to keep vowels closer to their original shape.
Second of all, it is indeed amazing what the voice can do, even if not all sounds will appeal to everyone.
One of the things I love about your videos, besides your infectious joy, is how you are so natural and are not trying to say what others want to hear. I love when you say that we can click off the video if we don't want to put up with the pauses. That makes me want to stay even more.
Just be Jenn. We love Jenn.
Thank you so much for the lovely comment!! 😁 happy you are here!
Loved your reaction. Watch Who is Gonne Be The One. Live. She gets so low and she is such fun to watch. She has a real presence about her. Hard to believe she’s an introvert and shy and has to fight with herself to get herself on stage.
I get to see her live in August. I can’t wait!!! Pure talent. No voice lessons. She’s amazing.
If you are interested enough... Elizabeth Zharoff (The Charismatic Voice) did one of her "Tea Time" interviews on her channel with Tatiana here.
I know you were wondering about how she explored her voice so much she found this, well it might be answered there. But I don't recall any details of what they spoke about!
But loved your analysis and reaction!
Oh lovely - thanks!!
Great reaction. The band is fantastic, and Taiana is a vocal goddess. She had a few vocal lessons and started singing when she was 8. When she was 15 of 16 a friend played her Otep and it was the first time she heard a female singer growl. She was determined to learn it and worked on it for years while singing in bands. She is such a master of her voice now she can switch word to word. As some others had mentioned below you need to hear her live. Next try "Perennial" live at Wacken 2019. You'll really enjoy it!
Never gets old. I’m forever jealous of people who get to experience Jinjer for the first time. I was never really into metal so much until I heard them, but there are so many other elements to keep it interesting and different while still sticking true to the metal genre. Plenty of recommendations so won’t add to them. Would love to see more but see how you go 😊
Wait, wait for it,,,,, THERE IT IS. LMMFAO! Great reaction.
Tati uses MOSTLY false fold scream in this song, but she also hits some fry screams as well.
Most singers choose one or the other, especially because the volume levels can be quite different.
She is truly magnificent to be able to do both styles so well and keep them both fairly close in volume.
I hate fry screaming lol, soo rough on the throat and soo unhealthy to do. I can false fold scream for hours but fry screaming will kill me in 20 minutes, I don't know how bands who only fry scream can get through an entire show. not to mention they're literally putting a time limit on the band by ruining their vocal chords lol
always love watching a first time reaction to jinjer. enjoyed your insight
lol that ending made you feel some kind of way. gets me every time.
Ah, the beauty of a contralto female voice, who can also do false vocal fold growls and epiglottis techniques.
You MUST do more of Jinjer, please! :D
Nice analysis. Also, you are really cheerful person, and I like it:)
Really nice adjustment reaction! You accepted that professionally and open minded;)! Well done! They are an amazing band, and you will not be disappointed listening/reacting to their other videos/songs. Enjoy! She was turned on to this vocal approach by other female singers that could already vocalize this way- and then LOTS of trial and error/practice!
It's ok to be less vocal coach and more of our buddy/friend we enjoy listening music with.
Loved it!
Quick recommendation : 14.yo. Diana Ankudinova - Rechenka. Interesting folk song with many unusual segments sang with her unique style and voice.
You know it's a vocal coach reactor when it's that high E belt that makes them really go nuts
This song might as well be tailor made for reaction channels, with both the music and clean vocals lulling you into a state of calm at the start, before slapping you in the face with the switch.
A few more switches to get used to it, then in the final verse she switches so quickly and adds so much more power to it that it leaves you a little stunned.
It really is the perfect introduction to Tatiana, which is probably why it's such a popular request.
As a person who has mastered the kinds of vocals Tati does in this song, it absolutely does feel like two different techniques. And ironically, it's singing cleans that hurts my throat over time more than the growls do lol. I'll give you a basic tutorial of how to try and get that growl in a healthy manor. Make sure to keep your throat soft by drinking water often when practicing.
step 1) exasperate like you've just sunk into the couch after a long day. That rumble in the back of your throat is what you're after.
step 2) try and sustain that reverberation by pushing air out through your diaphragm. This part is where you can hurt yourself if you're engaging your main vocal chords. If it starts to get uncomfortable or hurt, stop and rest. I wouldn't push sessions past 10 minutes at first.
step 3) once you can sustain the basic growl for a bit you just need to learn how to modulate it's pitch, which is a combo of vowel control, air pressure, added vocal fry (that's how she says DEATH)
and little bit of muscle control in the back of the throat.
bonus fun fact, if you can learn to do this technique well it's also pretty much the same technique used for subharmonics which is how I can hit E1's on occasion lol
Thanks so much for sharing! 😁
She did an interview with Elizabeth Zharoff on the charismatic voice channel and discussed how she discovered the sound and trained herself to sing in that way. It's a cool story
Also if you want an example of her singing in a 100% clean voice check out "bad water"
I thoroughly enjoyed your analysis..
They were actually playing tonight in Derbyshire, Bloodstock Open Air, their only date in the UK this year. Next year they will tour in the UK a full month in march.
They have plenty of catchy songs to discover that you might even like, 'better' than Pisces, which is mostly chosen as a first introduction to the group because there is such a change during that it takes the listener off guard. For instance "Perennial (live at wacken)", "I Speak Astronomy", "Judgement & Punishment", "Vortex", "Wallflower".
So glad you checked out the whole song to see for yourself there's so, so, so much more than a shock value thing going on here.
Loved it! You were right to hold off until now, so you’re really established as a knowledgeable reactor. This isn’t your wheelhouse, so we know not to expect you to explain that demon voice, but you can talk with some authority about what is happening with her voice as a whole.
And yeah, that demon thing is kind of terrifying. I’ve gone on to listen to some of their other music, but honestly I just am not into metal. I really like this song, distortions and all-love the constantly evolving time signatures (that drummer is a beast-I guess this video was made to introduce him, as he was their newest member at the time). Tati has a beautiful voice, nice range, great belt, love that kind of husky timbre, but honestly it’s the crazy distortions that make her so unique. Basically everybody in this group is extraordinary, even if I’m not that into their chosen style of music.
Anyway, I’m glad you did eventually come around to this-loved your insights!
Ah thank you!! Yes, what a talented bunch of musicians!! 😁
@@JenniferGlatzhofer I would have said it's closer to Cookie Bear Monster's voice, Lol!
@@JenniferGlatzhofer Hey, could you please pretty please check out Peter Barber’s “It Won’t Be Me?” It’s SOOO good, and deserves reactions!
Great reaction. Awesome analysis too. Tatanias vocal ability is truly astonishing. Have a look at Teacher Teacher. That also demonstrates her ability, in a harsher setting.
Jen, you should know that your impersonations of Tati's growled inflections and little aspirate nuances are everything! While I doubt there's another Jinjer reaction in your immediate future, I highly recommend that you find 5 minutes to check out Perennial live at Wacken just to see how fast she can flip-flip from growl to belt and back again in a proper live setting. While she's jumping around lol. Basically what we are seeing here is nothing in comparison. Many thanks!
I will suggest you any Jinjer's video, any of them, Tatiana always delivers, always!
And they play full sets for an hour or more at live shows. Always love seeing more people discover this band.
Oh boy. If you wanna see what she can really do live, you HAVE to react to Perennial (live at Waken) or Judgement (and punishment) live one take vocal playthrough. The whole band is amazing, and work soo well together.
Tatiana switches quite frequently in Teacher Teacher. Looking forward to your next reaction. Love the way you break down the songs. I’ve learned quite a bit just watching your reactions.
Again, I thought I had commented but, what a great reaction to my favorite Jinjer song! I only wish Tati would sing this song as in this session. It is such a classic and shock. I didn't like her growls at first but quickly fell in love with the dichotomy of her singing voice. Try "I Speak Astronomy", it is neat as well. Thanks Jen!🥰
Take a look at how low bass singers get subharmonics, it'll give you a better idea of where this vocal style comes from. You can learn to use the false fold for a low growl and the singing voice will engage similtaniously with the not a 5th above to create a power chord. That's why it sounds so powerful.
Thank you for saying you are sorry. Not needed.!!!!!!!!! This group is different, yet darn good. Hope you like it!!! Also keep in mind that this girl is self taught and English is a second language to her.... There is a video on TH-cam where she talks about hearing this style and how she figured it out... Very informative, plus you hear her speaking voice. This lady is a deluxe performer!!! Take care and Merry Christmas....
Jinjer is my favorite band, so I always have to check out new reactions for this song (and Perennial Live as well as Judgment & Punishment One Take Performance). Most of the newer reactions to this song come across as fake to me. Your reaction was a pleasant surprise. And I have to add that I was having a horrible day, but your laughs and smiles are infectious, so thanks for that! I really hope to see more of your reactions to this band!! PEACE!! :)
Tatiana really is amazing. As you listen more you will also appreciate the band talent around her - then you hear the way they mesh together so well - then you realize they are fantastic and why haven't you listened sooner. They shine in live performances - check out Perennial live at Whacken to see her stage presence and realize 30-40 minutes into a set she can still do all the ranges she has. Jinjer really is something different out there in the metal world today. 🤘
First track from Jinger that I heard was "Sit Stay Roll Over" I've been hooked ever since. Still can't stop watching "Pisces" and "Teacher, teacher" reactions and it always warms my heart when people appreciate her voice and the entire bands awesomeness. Great reaction (It seems everyone does the nervous laugh when it really kicks in😁)
I love people are still reacting to Jijer. Teacher teacher is another amazing performance, or if you wana see a 100% close cam of her singing, 'Judgement (punishment) 1 take' is also a big hit.
I'd also recommend "Judgement & Punishment", the live session. Tatiana is an incredibly versatile vocalist. you'll see.
It is always troubling to me whenever a reactor feels the need to apologize for not liking this or that. I find it impossible that with all the genres of music and all the different bands within those genres making different sounds that somebody would like it all. But sadly that is what we, your audience demand. "Play my song and like it damnit" For whatever it's worth I always applaud you guys who are willing to step away from your comfort zone and experience something new, like it or not. 👏👏👏
Oh, Jenn, I love how you setup like you know what's coming
and then you just flinch and your eyes widen and you pause the moment first chorus ends
... yeah, Jinjer and Tatiana are doing different things; wonderful, wonderful things, but different things :)
also, yah! another reactor who understands that Tati's belt is an entirely different (3rd) voice
yeah, it's all epic
So great!!
Tati is a beast! The thing that amazes me is how clear her annunciation is when she does the growls in this particular song. My initial thought was DEMONIC activity, but after watching a few other reactors I understand the mechanics of how this is affected better. Kudos to Julia Nilon for part of that. Jenn, you are and will always be one of my top 5 reactors. I believe every woman needs to develop this talent, if nothing else you can imagine the effectiveness in handling children or a spouse. Enjoy the mental image.... Love you and your channel, Jenn.
Hi Jennifer hope you are having an great and awesome day ❤
I am actually quite new to harsh vocals myself. But the best way to try it yourself...without hurting yourself, is to make a long 'O' with your mouth, but slowly clear your throat to make the sound. You can play around with that feel and make all sorts of new sounds, they say not to try to add words yet, as you will likely use your true folds and hurt something. :)
If you get really adventurous I would check out one of Lorna Shore's one take performances. I'd say "And I Return to Nothingness" on the Channel "The Will Ramos." The reason I like the one takes is you get to watch him up close, "singing" live, so you get to see all the facial and mouth movements you love to see, but with new sounds behind them.
Similarly, symphonic metal from seven spires:
Adrienne Cowan - "Fearless" Stay Home Singthrough
Tatiana is extraordinary. just an astonishingly talented singer.
Oh, this will be fun!!
Though not a live performance, I would suggest listening to their track I Speak Astronomy. It's quite progressive musically, there is a higher ratio of clean vocals to growls and you can hear Tatiana doing some epic high belts at the end (note: there is a false end to the song).
If you want to learn more about Tatiana´s background and production of these sounds, Elizabeth from The Charismatic Voice did an interview with her.
This was my first time watching you, great reaction and explanations! Since you are trained in musical theater I’d highly recommend watching Iron Maiden doing Hallowed be thy Name live in 83 I think. That was when Bruce Dickinson was at the height of his “human air raid” powers. His approach reminds me a lot of musical theater. Ooh, the performance of Scared of the Dark in Brazil could be right out of a Broadway production, check that out too. He’s older in that but still great.
Pausing to add your thoughts and reactions is the whole point of a reaction video….!