If you tow frequently and for long distances, yeah, it’s a problem, however, if it’s short haul towing within 100 miles or less, there’s nothing better than towing with a Rivian. No joke.
Hey Scott! Thanks, to you and your son, for your great video. I am in Montréal Canada and will be getting a Launch Limestone R1S in the next twelve months. I have been hesitating between getting the 22s and the 20s as our roads here are not the best. I am worried about potholes destroying rims and tires on the 22s. My winter set will definitely be 20s with true winter tires. As you have experienced both sizes, do you have any insight that might help me choose between the two. I will be definitely getting them in black as they really go well with the limestone color. Thanks again! Pierre
If you wanted to just stick with the 22s, there are lots of options at 22 for winter tires. You could just switch the rubber over during the winter. As far as the difference between the 20 and 22s, ride quality is essentially the same in my opinion. But, I would stick with the 20s just to have a good rugged off-road tire. And the all terrains aren’t quite good enough for my purposes. With snow and off-roading, I’d prefer to have something tougher. I not sure what I’ll do for the season, but for now, I’m just sticking with the stock tires until I find a better solution. I think either 20s or 22s would work for you, and my advice would be not to worry too much about which one. Definitely not the 21s though because there are fewer options at that size for aftermarket tires. For winter climates, either size would work because you can find good snow tires in both sizes.
Have you considered adding a win deflector on the front cargo crossbar? I see them all the time on Subarus and other similar vehicles. I wonder if having the wind deflected up at an angle instead of hitting the vertical tent box would increase range/decrease wind resistance much.
It’s so easy to remove the crossbars that I usually just take them off when there is no cargo. So no. But if I had a permanent rack up there then a wind deflector would be great.
I have question about the why you choose to mount the tent in the rear half the R1S instead of the front half. Please let me know the reason for this? its it because of range?
Supply chain issues. :-) that was my only option at the time. I’m glad we have the 22s though just for comparison sake, but I would’ve picked the 20s if I had the option.
Thanks for tracking those trips; for your next test you should come to the western slope and tow our 22' trailer so I know what to expect when our R1S arrives! Also it seems like we are always running into a headwind on our way to Moab, which combined with no ccs charging out there yet is a problem.
Yeah, Moab is a bit of a dead zone I hear. Haven’t been there in the Rivian yet though. I’d like to think that Rivian will prioritize a charger there, but still not open yet. Thanks for commenting.
@@RivianDad I talked to a technician working on the RAN station here in Grand Junction, and he said that the power company in Moab was requiring millions in infrastructure upgrades, so rivian is looking at different options.
Yes, we ran in conserve mode the whole way. There was a stretch in the R1T with the trailer that we used towing mode, but we actually went back to conserve mode.
thank you. I will be pulling a 6'x12' uhaul cargo trailer for a 185 miles trip in my R1s 21" wheel for the first time soon. The additional weight will probably be around 3K lbs. There is a EA station which is 30 miles from our house and another one at 120 miles after that. Do you think it is capable? I heard that towing range estimate is not very accurate.
got our R1S 3 weeks ago and the amount to wind noise from the side glass and mirrors is pretty crazy.. anything over 75mph wind noise is more than my 2008 Land Cruiser with 220k miles.
Thanks for the video. How do you like the CRUA RTT? Please let us know your thoughts on if it is a worthwhile investment for the pricing vs. say an iKamper.
I prefer it to the iKamper for two reasons, it’s a tiny bit bigger inside, and it’s much cheaper. See the link in the video description. Of course, not being a hard shell gives it a little disadvantaged there.
@@RivianDad Great video, thanks for sharing. How do you think the CRUA would fit on the bed of the R1T? Anyone using it there, or primarily on top? Definitely a great price
@@travis9975 heya Travis! Joel had the Crua on the back of his R1T. Fits just fine. Recommended. Although there are tons of other options out there, I’m hoping to get some reviews of some other tent soon. I’ll keep you posted.
It’s not the Achilles’ heel to electric vehicles all vehicles take a big hit when you put shit on the roof or tow stuff is just people who drive gas cars like to pointed it out
Do you mean like an overpowered hurricane because of warm ocean waters? Or do you mean a forest fire brought on by dead trees (bark beetle) and extreme temperatures? Or do you mean extreme droughts where cities like Phoenix run out of water? I guess I’d rather put my hat in the solution ring. Besides, it is entirely plausible (more likely even?) that there will be lines around the block at a gas station caused by political instability while I’ve charged my vehicles from solar panels. Of course, you point out a weakness, but it’s a small risk. The risk from doing nothing toward lessening those natural disasters is much higher in my opinion. Oh and did I mention the truck can also go 0-60 in 3 seconds to get away from zombie attacks? :)
For long distance overlanding you’re right it is difficult with electric but has been done. For our family it’s more about weekend camping which is better in electric than gas.
Great video and details. Keep putting your thoughts.
Thanks for watching and commenting!
Thanks especially to Becca, Ryan, and Joel for making this possible. And, thanks to the best sidekick ever!
You’re spot on with you assessment regarding towing. The range impacts of towing is the only reason I am not buying an EV truck yet.
If you tow frequently and for long distances, yeah, it’s a problem, however, if it’s short haul towing within 100 miles or less, there’s nothing better than towing with a Rivian. No joke.
Yeah I think people forget that gas cars also have the exact same “range loss” when towing. There’s just simply more fuel stations right now.
Great video and analysis
Thanks!
Hey Scott! Thanks, to you and your son, for your great video. I am in Montréal Canada and will be getting a Launch Limestone R1S in the next twelve months. I have been hesitating between getting the 22s and the 20s as our roads here are not the best. I am worried about potholes destroying rims and tires on the 22s. My winter set will definitely be 20s with true winter tires. As you have experienced both sizes, do you have any insight that might help me choose between the two. I will be definitely getting them in black as they really go well with the limestone color. Thanks again! Pierre
If you wanted to just stick with the 22s, there are lots of options at 22 for winter tires. You could just switch the rubber over during the winter. As far as the difference between the 20 and 22s, ride quality is essentially the same in my opinion. But, I would stick with the 20s just to have a good rugged off-road tire. And the all terrains aren’t quite good enough for my purposes. With snow and off-roading, I’d prefer to have something tougher. I not sure what I’ll do for the season, but for now, I’m just sticking with the stock tires until I find a better solution. I think either 20s or 22s would work for you, and my advice would be not to worry too much about which one. Definitely not the 21s though because there are fewer options at that size for aftermarket tires. For winter climates, either size would work because you can find good snow tires in both sizes.
Welcome to #limestonelifestyle !!
Much appreciated Scott! I really enjoy all of your content and an certainly excited to get my R1T. Thanks again! Pierre
@@robinlunt2535 Thank you Robin!
Have you considered adding a win deflector on the front cargo crossbar? I see them all the time on Subarus and other similar vehicles. I wonder if having the wind deflected up at an angle instead of hitting the vertical tent box would increase range/decrease wind resistance much.
It’s so easy to remove the crossbars that I usually just take them off when there is no cargo. So no. But if I had a permanent rack up there then a wind deflector would be great.
I have question about the why you choose to mount the tent in the rear half the R1S instead of the front half. Please let me know the reason for this? its it because of range?
What made you go with 22s on the R1S instead of the 20 ATs?
Supply chain issues. :-) that was my only option at the time. I’m glad we have the 22s though just for comparison sake, but I would’ve picked the 20s if I had the option.
Thanks for tracking those trips; for your next test you should come to the western slope and tow our 22' trailer so I know what to expect when our R1S arrives! Also it seems like we are always running into a headwind on our way to Moab, which combined with no ccs charging out there yet is a problem.
Yeah, Moab is a bit of a dead zone I hear. Haven’t been there in the Rivian yet though. I’d like to think that Rivian will prioritize a charger there, but still not open yet. Thanks for commenting.
@@RivianDad I talked to a technician working on the RAN station here in Grand Junction, and he said that the power company in Moab was requiring millions in infrastructure upgrades, so rivian is looking at different options.
@@jeremyp3630 oh man. Thx for the update.
@@jeremyp3630 How is the Grand Junction RAN station looking? Opening soon?
@travis9975 Two weeks ago the technician said it would open really soon but the stalls were still covered yesterday.
Is it in conserve mode?
Yes, we ran in conserve mode the whole way. There was a stretch in the R1T with the trailer that we used towing mode, but we actually went back to conserve mode.
thank you. I will be pulling a 6'x12' uhaul cargo trailer for a 185 miles trip in my R1s 21" wheel for the first time soon. The additional weight will probably be around 3K lbs. There is a EA station which is 30 miles from our house and another one at 120 miles after that. Do you think it is capable? I heard that towing range estimate is not very accurate.
@@RivianDad so does it actually let you tow in conserve mode?
@@justinstewart3248 Yes. tows perfectly fine in conserve mode. Not sure if it helps with range much though.
got our R1S 3 weeks ago and the amount to wind noise from the side glass and mirrors is pretty crazy.. anything over 75mph wind noise is more than my 2008 Land Cruiser with 220k miles.
传统发动机的声音没有了，其他噪音问题就明显了
Are you making 65 on a 75 limit? Man my range will be horrible when I pick my R1S in a month or so. I would drive 85 on a 75
Bean trailer weight is likely above 2,000lb + rooftop tent...
Thanks for the video. How do you like the CRUA RTT? Please let us know your thoughts on if it is a worthwhile investment for the pricing vs. say an iKamper.
I prefer it to the iKamper for two reasons, it’s a tiny bit bigger inside, and it’s much cheaper. See the link in the video description. Of course, not being a hard shell gives it a little disadvantaged there.
@@RivianDad which version is this Crua Aer 2 or Aer Maxx 4?
@@kevincalvey1060 this one: www.cruaoutdoors.com/products/crua-aer?_pos=1&_sid=9a2d1b3cd&_ss=r. the AER
@@RivianDad Great video, thanks for sharing. How do you think the CRUA would fit on the bed of the R1T? Anyone using it there, or primarily on top? Definitely a great price
@@travis9975 heya Travis! Joel had the Crua on the back of his R1T. Fits just fine. Recommended. Although there are tons of other options out there, I’m hoping to get some reviews of some other tent soon. I’ll keep you posted.
It’s not the Achilles’ heel to electric vehicles all vehicles take a big hit when you put shit on the roof or tow stuff is just people who drive gas cars like to pointed it out
Yes, and when it affects the range, as it does for every car, it just hurts more when you have a smaller “gas tank”
When a disaster hits and you have to go and keep going especially if power is out your screwd
Do you mean like an overpowered hurricane because of warm ocean waters? Or do you mean a forest fire brought on by dead trees (bark beetle) and extreme temperatures? Or do you mean extreme droughts where cities like Phoenix run out of water? I guess I’d rather put my hat in the solution ring. Besides, it is entirely plausible (more likely even?) that there will be lines around the block at a gas station caused by political instability while I’ve charged my vehicles from solar panels. Of course, you point out a weakness, but it’s a small risk. The risk from doing nothing toward lessening those natural disasters is much higher in my opinion. Oh and did I mention the truck can also go 0-60 in 3 seconds to get away from zombie attacks? :)
@@RivianDad but when a lib backs into you at Starbucks it’s a $40,000 repair as I drive away with six gas cans 😂
@@Utubeisazzhothat’s just gross. :/
@@RivianDad right. Haha I got 2020 sq7 and thought my repair costs were high lol
Of course if the power is out you can’t pump gas either. Lotta fear in peoples hearts rather than optimism these days.
Damn. Driving that slow 🦥 is horrible even the Semi is passing you on the highway 🫣.
A car and a tent for 100K ? No thanks.
No disrespect but, electic and overland, I just don't see it. It is just consumers marketing, nothing more.
For long distance overlanding you’re right it is difficult with electric but has been done. For our family it’s more about weekend camping which is better in electric than gas.