Lenovo Thinkpad X1 Extreme review: An impressive, powerful, and pricey PC
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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 27 ก.ย. 2024
- The new Lenovo X1 Extreme is a 15.6" business laptop with a 4K HDR Dolby Vision display and a ton of ports. Plus, it's built like a tank. Here's my review and thoughts about this "classic" looking laptop with modern hardware. See at Lenovo: thrifter.com/sz3l
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Pyre gold. Finally they got the hint. I would get this over any 1060 laptop, or any laptop regardless. If you are that much of a hard core gamer I cant imagine you would be on a laptop. I hope thinkpad keeps this up.
Legit all this is missing is a classic keyboard, I hope they make them again like on the thinkpad 25.
Daniel, I just have to say what a great overall review you gave for the X1 Extreme. I am currently typing on my with the standard non touch screen and 16gb ram. I've had it for a few weeks now after waiting for a couple weeks to be built from Lenovo since they had a great black Friday deal. Honestly, I'm just extremely happy with this purchase. I was sooooo close to going mac because of specific things but knew I would be so unhappy long term. This laptop is everything I was really looking for in a laptop. You spoke about gaming and let me say this does preform very very well for games and I'm not looking for graphics per-say just to have some fun. I will agree though about the battery but really that is the only thing in my opinion that isn't the best. Overall though, I love the build quality, the keyboard is perfect in every way and the track-pad. Yes people are complaining about the fans in this thing that it does a whiny nose kind of thing but it doesn't bother me...
Best in class review as always but whats with the low light.
They aren't good at product shot which requires more lighting on the product itself
Great review. Someone in our department picked one of these up (X1) and boy does it look awesome. I'm a detachable guy myself, and these guys are pretty expensive. But what an appealing package.
Love your channel and reviews, but I can barely see you and the laptop in this video. Why is it so dark?
Yea the first thing I thought about was how dark the video look...
ThinkPads have the best keyboards
don't forget the smart card reader, you can use it to unlock the laptop only with a card, or pay online without needing to write the card numbers all the time. also can be used for even more storage.
@bug bug there is a smart card option when you buy the computer in lenovo, only 10$ more.
Finally a laptop that looks like a laptop! I love that they have kept the ports
awesome review, Dan. thanks for sharing. any information on Ubuntu compatibility?
As a programmer this has everything I'd ever want in a laptop. This will be my next laptop.
Great review. Seriously stumped over whether I want to spring the extra money for the 4K version! I do want for video editing but want power too.. and would like to stay around 1800.
I wish they’d responded to people’s questions. I just put in an order for the gen 3 and didn’t know whether or not to get FHD or UHD. I opted for FHD only because I still hear complaints of UHD not interfacing seamlessly without scaling problems in numbers of programs. Also frames rate is better on 1080p. It seems we’re still out a couple of years from 4K interfacing well with all programs. I’m surprised none of these reviews show how FHD and UHD interfaces with most used software. Your thoughts?
You need more light in your videos esp if you're pointing ports from a distance. All I see is black edge of the laptop unless its zoomed in.
Been using a Thinkpad X1 for 3 years - the poor thing went through a lot of abuse, but still performs like a new one. I want a new laptop, but this thing never ages, so I stuck with it for another 2 - 3 years.
Thank you for explaining about the proprietary ethernet port
I just ordered one: i9 CPU, 32GB/1TB, 4k touch screen. I'm ambivalent about the touch screen but the Lenovo rep suggested I try it since I'll be using this for photo editing. It's replacing the mid-2014 MacBook Pro I bought late last year, that de-soldered its GPU last month. Like you, I wish the display was 3:2 or even Apple's 16:10. I looked at Surface Books a while back, liked the 3:2 but disliked the highly reflective screen. I print my photos and the Surface Book's color gamut and accuracy weren't up to snuff (especially at the price) in my opinion. Unfortunately, the ThinkPad won't arrive until July.
Fantastic review and analysis!
Wow best review so far, without alot of benchmarks taking up the time.
Although I am worried about heat and throttling on all 6 core laptops.
yeah very great review for sure....
Im pretty excited for a P72 review. Hope that laptop comes out soon! :)
Top notch presentation. Love your reviews.
The X1extreme...good for video editing using Adobe CC? Please let me know your thoughts.
Wow, the perfect laptop! The only slight downside is that it doesn't have a physical privacy shutter, but in all other ways it the best laptop on the market. I'm buying one come Black Friday / Cyber Monday :-)
Unfortunately nobody is testing the operation with a thunderbolt dock and an external display when internal display is closed (because it is below the desk on an office container), if there is a heat / noise / durability problem because of the covert back outgoing ventilation slot. Would you mind analyse this topic in your next review of Lenovo Extreme Gen. 2? Thanks for your great videos!
Kind of unrelated, but what watchband is that on the apple watch in this video?
you've really pointed out the reasons well here. Great review
Would love a yoga version of this beast
That would be AMAZING! Can you imagine how expensive would be?
Where did you find the info about the Thunderbolt 3 ports? i just want to be shure there are 2 times 4 pcie lines.
I so agree with you - if it was 3:2 that would be just perfect machine!
Is this a good laptop for music production?
How good is adjusting the brightness with 400 nits? Can you really adjust it fine enough? Because the nuances in Windows are always the same and so a laptop with 400 nits cannot be adjusted in the same fine way as e.g. 250 nits, right? Thanks for your review!
Speakers on the top deck make it more difficult for spill resistance.
Why is this keyboard better than X1 carbon and X1 yoga? I thought all thinkpads have the same keyboard (or use the same keyboard technology)? No?
Why would anyone buy an MacBook when u have this if don’t need OS X? Ignorance and design I guess. I think this is sexy though. Hard core PC.
Well, if you need and/or prefer macOS then the Macbook is the only option. This kind of hardware however is really awesome
I own X1C with HDR display. Running Manjaro on it. I also own MBP 15 2017. Only reason I purchase MBP is because of Mac OS. For me personally, it's the best OS by far.
But as design goes, I like thinkpad designs way more then macbooks. I know, most people think MBP are the best designed out there. Sure, they are great, but I simply love black more then 'space grey' or silver, and aluminium is not that great on a laptop. Scratches really easily, and I kinda love the feel on the thinkpads.
Keyboard is also way better. As are ports.
Only thing hardware wise that I like on MBP more are trackpads and the 16:10 retina screen, even though HDR on my X1C is also brilliant! But 16:9 is not good for productivity. At all.
So if I could natively run Mac OS on a thinkpad, I would never even consider purchasing a MBP.
As a Mac user I actually agree. I'll still have my desktop Mac for all Apple integration and MacOS specific work, but for laptop use I can't stand Apple's current lineup and prices.
I'm so happy a GTX ThinkPad finally exists! I can't wait to get my hands on one! As much as I dislike Windows, I don't think I'll be that bothered when on a laptop, as I do most of my work on the desktop mac.
@@mileni7 I'm in a pickle I want to buy either a Thinkpad or Macbook for University. Would like to do basic stuff, but also photo, and color edit. Adobe CC. My main concern is reliability, I heard apple products are anti-consumer in that sense they solder Ram, and Hard drive. There getting a lot of heat as CBC News has gone undercover, and discovered that Apple employees push to avoid repair, and pressure you to buy a new computer. I heard Mac OS is beautiful having less bugs, no need for an anti-virus, and Programs like final cut. If theoretically I could get either device for the same price, almost the same specs which one would you recommend me getting?? Thinkpad Pros (4k screen Color accurate) (Unsoldered Ram, and SSD Upgrade them anytime) or Macbook Pro Pros (Cleaner Mac OS, No Anti-Virus and good programs like FInal Cut) Thanks and Cheers!
Most Mac users do not even consider other OS. They will buy a MacBook not because of the hardware, but because of the OS.
One of the most complete reviews i have seen on youtube, thank you and keep it up.
Hi window central, can this model hinge be open with one hand
Sound its good? and 1 Question : its 4k better in this laptop? and battery diferents about FHD and 4k thnaks
Thank for the video, I am between this and the HP ZBook Studio x360 convertible(4K dream color screen), which screen you think is better?
I wish they would use a 3:2 aspect ratio screen.
Nice review Dan, great device, but as you said, it's for productive people more than gamers .
Video liked as always
Are these precision drivers on the track pad?
So, what exactly is the difference between this one and P1 except Quadro gpu? I'm planing on getting one. (but non Xeon P1)
Excellent linux laptop and MacBook Pro replacement.
Is it applicable for graphic design and video cutting purposes?
Can the laptop lay flat like the x1 carbon? IT seems like it has a different hing. How far back does it go?
It can go completely flat, but not beyond that.
Hello, may I know if the 4k touch screen glossy or matte? From the video it looks like matte but Lenovo website just said it is anti reflective
the 4k is glossy, while the 1080p one is matt.
how is it for adobe premiere?
No thermal / throttling / benchmarks???
what watch is he wearing?
any discussion about docking station? running 2 4k monitors with docking?
i just got the docking station in the mail yesterday. have yet to receive the laptop. the dock is compact high quality and you can feel the weight to it in your hand. it comes with 2 power cables that are to be plugged into it at the same time, requiring 2 electrical sockets. other than that strange design, seems high quality. its overall much better than the docking stations of the W500 and previous versions, just a small rectangular box. a proprietary wire combining thunderbolt 3 and power plugins in the laptop to the dock
@@talkingalltimechina9678 Thanks for the info. Is it factory original docking? or some OEM? If I do not remember wrong, there are quite a few OEM are there with different pros and cons. Do you know if the setup supports two 4K monitor? I read from some specs, remember it saying supporting four 4k monitors. Just do not know if someone has tried it.
Cancun again?
I hate the single slab hinge on this PC. It is unlike Lenovo. The Metalic dual hinge does it for me.
How about thermals? I’m having a hard time choosing between this and the xps
Everything I've read is that even with an i7 processor the Dell isn't a good choice due to thermals. You "can" undervolt it and open it up and do some thermal repaste, but the consumer shouldn't need to do that with a new purchase. That's what's keeping me away frankly.
I bought the XPS 15 in Oct and the fan is ALWAYS on and loud on mine even with NO apps running. I am returning the dell. Others are having similar issues evidently. I am considering this X1 hopefully it doesn't have heat issues.
very nice rich review
What watch do you have? Seems Apple Watch?
any pen recommendations for x1 extreme? thanks!
update: im using Bamboo Ink, its ok for highlight pdf and minor hand writing stuff.
very powerful pc
Could you please stop giving everyone the middle finger? 😂
Can I upgrade to 2, 2TB SSD, drives? or is the max 2 TB ?
It only has 1x SSD drive, so you could manually upgrade to a Samsung EVO 4tb 2.5" SSD.
@@AlexLawi that's incorrect. It has 2 m.2 nvme slots ( see spec sheet : gzhls.at/blob/ldb/b/0/6/c/0156b4debd4437f867f87a8d1417a91b2ace.pdf ) I was just reading online tthat each slot can support max 1TB which is weird...
I bet it can handle dual 2tb drives like butter (4tb total). It's just that no one has tried yet.
their oled screen are defective.. they know and they still ship them .. you see the f. touch mesh and there is a color haze because of the mesh.. they are not even glossy. and they fake not knowing about it.. dont buy.. they certainly will not honor their warranty as they didnt with my yoga gen 2 oled .. even then this new screen is 10x worst than the yoga gen2 even if that one had other defects..
You know 6 hours on 4k display is very good
Does it support USB C charging?
Yes
Cool laptop
If only it was cheaper with the higher specs :(
Is this a good laptop for content creation? Video and photo editing?
Obviously, it is. Good performance, excellent screen...
Wich laptop its better than x1 extreme?
Microsoft Surface Book 2 with a GTX 1060 but slower CPU.
What´s about build quality? Lot of people have issues with Lenovo X1 2018 lineup. Lot of people have posts on reddit with bad experience, like damaged keyboard, dim screen and so on.
Always going to have some lemons in the bunch . . . I wouldn't worry about build quality with the Lenovo anymore than any other company
dude I couldn't be more happy with the build quality of my x1 extreme...
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Bad hair day?...
Everyone step back and put the kool-aid down. What you have here is a $2700 laptop with a now 1 gen old mediocre at best GPU....get it together.
Show me a better alternative and I will put the kool-aid down.
@@neoxatax The dell XPS 15 2 in 1 with integrated AMD graphics performs on par with this and the regular XPS and goes for a whopping $1800...Or you could buy ANY 1050Ti powered laptop not pitched as ultra thin for around a thousand bucks...
@@enntense when people shop around for a coupe car with two doors (ultrabook), you don't go and suggest them that there's better, bigger and more powerful 4 door car (non-ultrabook) than the coupe. That's essentially what you just did by disregarding the ultrabook factor. If that wasn't an important factor, everyone would be looking at $700 desktops with powerful enough GPUs.
A 15” 4.5 lb laptop isn’t an ultra book ....
@@enntense Exactly, maybe the dell 2 in 1 you're talking about is 4.5 lb but this laptop is around 3.7 lbs. I'd say anything lighter than 4 lbs is portable.
Business laptop and has no Ten Key Pad!!! WTF kinda business are these idiots doing??? 15.6 inch platform has more than enough space for a 10 key, I just don't get it.
ordered one today for ONLY $1781 for the 4k HDR w/ 8850H CPU version.. they had priced wrong at the time i was shopping.. that's like 1k lower!!! i'm so happy :).. thanks for the review though.. little worried about the battery only 6 hours ?! i guess i'll get an external one
EDIT: pre-holiday sale www.lenovo.com/us/en/laptops/thinkpad/thinkpad-x/ThinkPad-X1-Extreme/p/20MF000CUS $2091 as of today
lucky you!
nice. yeah, battery life isn't impressive. I just bring my charger with me everywhere. use that intel extreme tuning utility to lower cpu voltage... that'll lower temp as well.
will try that ! thx
i used cinebench to test stability a couple of times... @default voltage settings, cinebench score was like 980 i think. @ -0.165v, cinebench was like 1199. i guess mine runs faster (surely cooler) with lower voltage.
interesting .. i assume you have same 8850H chip?
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11:15 “start around $1500”. Their website says starting at $1859. Can link to this $1500 model?
What would you say is the best touchscreen laptop for 4k video editing? The Lenovo Thinkpad X1 Extreme is my frontrunner right now. I'm a writer, so the keyboard makes me droooooooool. If Dell updates the XPS 15 this year, I'll consider it. I wish Microsoft would put a more powerful CPU in the Surface Book rather than an ultrabook CPU, but I won't hold my breath.
Can you do a comparison video with the Dell XPS 15 2-in-1 and if possible, include the Microsoft Surface Book 2 (15 inch) in the comparison? I was not able to find videos comparing specifically, the performance of these 15 inch laptops with touch screens.
I wish the FN key was in its normal place... very easy to mistake that for the ctrl key. ANNOYING!!!!!!!!!!!!! WTF LENOVO?
You can swap the Fn and Ctrl keys in the BIOS i guess.
@@vivekmehra2887 yes I did. Thanks
@@JJaani that's the only thing I don't like! Even when I switched the keys, I wish I could change the keycaps.
@@mdtaylor2274 yes. I love the laptop otherwise. Great machine.
@@mdtaylor2274 very easy to upgrade. No flipping the mobo like some others.
its the best Laptop i ever own , and the Battery on FHD model is much much better than XPS or any other Laptop , its 15H battery
i am getting this to replace 2 Dell XPS 15
Since when was HDMI legacy? wtf?
Is this a good laptop for video editing?
bug bug no overheating, fast performance, durability, and good screen heheh
Shouldn't have get the 4k if you gonna complain about the battery
Just ordered it - i7, 16GB ram, 512GB SSD, 1080p screen. It costs 2000EUR in Europe after my student discount :D
did you by it from the Lenovo site?
MS SB2 or this?
Great Laptop - Im currently on the new x1 Carbon 6th gen with LTE...I would buy this X1 Extreme, but it needs LTE - thats definitely a business option missed!
you can deck out an A series with beter parts and more features for half the price. if you are a chump that falls for "premium" scams then go ahead and get this.
Does the keyboard light up?? And can I use this for djing and editing on Premire?
My XPS 15 battery last's for only 4 hours using Photoshop. Also, when typing, it will drop keys, meaning, it will not type a letter on occasion, no matter how hard you hit keys, it always drops a letter so I always have to be aware of it. To me, mine is less than a year old but it's not a big enough deal to me to have it fixed. My Lenovo X1 is on the way. It will be strictly for web designs. Hope it's worth it.
Just Order my X1 Extreme Gen 2, Give up on Dell. Let me know what you think of it.
@@reflectionrecon Ok, I should get my X1 in 2 weeks.
Dan, what about the fans, are they loud? You always mention that (very pro reviews) but didn't catch that this time, thanks.
Other reviewers said not loud, not silent. Just very good. Better than XPS and similar specced laptops.
Why steal the intro from alpha m. ...WHHYYY? You know what else steals intros from other men? Tiege Hanley !
Lol the old intro :))
great review
It does come in silver
What's about video edit on this laptop?
Great experience as stated by other users. 4K would be a requirement tho, better color.
What about compatibility with 2TB SSD?
I believe any NVME M Key 2280 and smaller would work.
I might get this for all my employees.
Jim Lee there are much better options out there for your employees.
*ehem ehem* dell 😂
Condescending much? Maybe stop assuming what viewers know or dont know.
Why not update the ol RJ45 to those thinkpad style port? Its sleeker port and looks more durable.
Apparently the downside of the X1 is the availability of parts.
It is far too dark to see the ports!
What? I didn't have any problems seeing the ports or find the video too dark while watching it on an X1 Extreme. May be time for an upgrade :)
Unfortunately it’s not mature yet, I bought 3 P1/ X1 extreme - all of them had a nasty electric crackling noise when you engage in using multiple apps - a bit like coil whining. Never had that before. So I hope Lenovo will fix the power issue since otherwise it’s a dream machine.
Too expensive won't sell well...xps 15 and MacBook pro 15 still Kings
Milan Sekler Lenovo still better than Lenovo ....just look at sales...this thing hasn’t sold and won’t ...XP’s has better screen for the money and better battery life Lenovo screwed up again
because y own xps rite? :) i am using laptop dell and lenovo here, I love lenovo more base on performance, but dell base on look and design only. That's the fact from existing user. note: using it for Video Editing Purpose mostly.