On 49th anniv of Bangladesh war, a peek at India’s most perilous decade & lessons for the future
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Amid Vijay Diwas celebrations in India and Bangladesh, Shekhar Gupta looks back at the 13-day war in 1971 which culminated in the Pakistani surrender, unpacks the volatile 1960s which preceded the war, and analyses the war's consequences, in episode 641 of #CutTheClutter
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@@msgstoas also from self proclaimed nationalist who call themselves patriots but have never read constitution.
Shekhar Gupta best communication
checkout this book too www.amazon.in/Indias-Wars-Military-History-1947-1971/dp/9351777499 , simple reading regarding wars
6:05 captions are overlapping with ad. It would be nice is you could look into that. Great video other than that
@@msgstoas May India get rid of all religion including Hindusim. Paraphrasing Ambedkar only way to remove cast system and the demon of casteism, Hinduism need to go.
Thank you India for saving further atrocities in then E Pakistan! Don't let the pro Pakistan kind convince you otherwise. Was a Dhaka University student then... Also with family and friends casualties. Watching the Indian Helicopters flying low on this date.. is amazing to this day. Thank you Indian soldiers and West Bengal for your sacrifices.
Love to bangladesh from westbengal ❤️
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All the very best wishes for the future of your glorious nation 🌼🌼
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Jai hind joi Bangla ! 🤘
You're very welcome. And thanks for the complements.
Good luck to your country.
greeting from another Dhaka University student.
Bharatbarsher buke poschimbongo theke sokol Bangladesh er bhai-bon der janai bijoy dibosh er obhinondon. ❤
@Paresh Patel War in general is Bad
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But war for a righteous cause is good
Very nice episode. As a Bangladeshi, we love Indira Gandhi because of her support in our independence. India and Soviet Union both have supported us and we always remember that. It was a pick of cold war era.If you can do an episode on the role of the countries worldwide at that time, it would be great.
Hi Afsana, thank you for tuning in and for the suggestion.
@Paresh Patel yes bro the credit goes to Indra Gandhi Sam manishaw and countless hard-working men's... So we're ready to sacrifice themselves
@Paresh Patel I read two books regarding that 7 years before. Bhutan is the first country which officially recognize Bangladesh. USA has sent 7th fleet and Soviet Union has sent 7th fleet in retaliation towards bay of Bengal. Soviet Union has vetoed twice for Bangladesh in UN. And Indira Gandhi was visiting continuously for the support for Bangladesh and was standing for Bangladesh like a iron lady. That's why Bangladeshis love her so much and Russia , Bhutan and India are Bangladesh's close friends. As for other countries, if Bangladesh doesn't maintain a relationship, then Bangladesh will have to stop relationship with almost everyone. Every country works for their self interest. Bangladesh is not different. Even India has a good relationship with UK(the previous colonizer) or South korea are so close to Japan.
My uncle was serving as Squadron Leader in the IAF during this war, and in fact, his son, my cousin brother was born on the same day Bangladesh gained independence!
respect and thanks to your uncle, from Bangladesh
Please thank him for his service on our behalf
I thank him for his service.
Great respect for his services
Heartfelt thanks to him, and his entire family.
Sir, people of 🇧🇩 greatly appreciate 🇮🇳 sacrifices for the emancipation of 🇧🇩 in 1971..🙏
We must put 1971 behind us and work for better future in the Indian sub continent. 🇮🇳 🇵🇰 🇧🇩 🇳🇵 🇱🇰
❤️❤️
Right sir along with Bhutan & Afghanistan
Don't add pakistan add Bhutan Instead.
@@WheelOfThought bhai, I understand your sentiments but,, we should always look for peace... Peace is infinity better then War. 🙏
No one prefer war... We neighbors Should think amicable way. Terrorism is the biggest threat to everyone. The nations should join and discuss peace full solutions for future genaration...
Proud to Hear. I'm from kerala 16 years old . 7 members from my family have participated in the 1971war , all of them were in Army
Hearty gratitude to your family ❤️
Grateful to your family. My elder brother was also in that war
1971 was a complete and decisive indian victory no doubt, respect from Pakistan
Thanks for the complement. Hopefully you guys can get your PM and army to stop sending terrorists to India.
Then we'll have peace.
@@aadityamurali18 india also has to break at least one time.
Peace will come then.
@@Wanderer975 Why? India being united does not cause any violence to any other country. So why does it have to break apart for there to be peace.
@@aadityamurali18 india interfered in internal matter of Pakistan. It did not have any right to do that.
Now india has to pay for its mistake for next 100s of years.
Peace will only come if india pays for it.
Yes, but not by India, because of own people i.e bangali nation wanted separation other benefits from it i.e India, Russia and USA. Now Russia and USA be burried in Afghanistan and India is on the list
I had given up on Prime times news before I got addicted to Cut the clutter.
26:28 Loser-in-chief😂
Shekhar Gupta OP🔥
My late grandad fought in the 65 & 71 wars. I've heard many interesting stories growing up :) He was a field doctor who would deliver first aid on the front line as the troops fell.
Do share!
@@ThePrintIndia one was how he was stopping a soldier's bleeding when a Pakistani grenade fell right on the spot.. He thought he would die. Luckily the pin wasn't completely out and it didn't explode.
60s was an insecure decade for the grain shortages too, ship to mouth remember.
They don't certainly
@@mstrsandhu4950 Absolutely they don't. Idiots in blind support of the government say any ridiculous thing from "let's import food" to "farmers did not make the food, I bought it with my money" 🤦♂️🤦♂️
The ration shop saved us. There was a joke that Indians are rational people because they eat grains from the ration shops. We had to queue in front of the ration shop overnight and just before the sop opens there will be violence in the front.
Think Indira, daughter of Great Nehru
@@stanlypaul4796 Abbey 🤦♂️ it is because of Indira Gandhi's efforts did we actually start moving in a direction to make us self-reliant for food. It was under her leadership that the green revolution started. Read some history before blindly pointing a finger at Nehru/Gandhi/Pappu.
My father's uncle was a POW. He tells that Indian forces treated them professionally, gave them canned food and prisoned them in military barracks in an humane way.
Best part... Didn't make hue and cry about "one cup of tea".
Pakistan will treat same when Khalistan will get freedom.
@@Wanderer975 so basically you mean never
@@Wanderer975 hahaha, Just wait till Pakstan finds out that Lahore will be made Khalistan's capital - let's see how friendly they are then
@@nnbg8000 india will have to pay for interfering in internal matter of Pakistan in 1971.
We will never forget this ever.
india will have to give independence to a country inside india of same size of Bangladesh.
Then peace will come.
Happy Bangladesh Independent to the All Bangla Bro and sister 💐💐💐
Thank you sir
Love from Bangladesh. Sir, You are THE kind of Journalist we need every country. INDIA should be proud of you. Imtiaz from New York, USA.
If Pakistan had not broken, imagine where the Chinese must sitting as well today.
Haha north, east & west hahaha. Atleast one less front to worry.
Why we need chinese when we have our own modi?
@@janami-dharmam he is prime minister of India because people of country voted for him. Pakistani bots need to understand how India works before commenting.
That was the real reason of that war. There was nothing about helping Bangladesh.
Chinese are still sitting in Chittagong, Bangladesh. Chutiya.
Winter is here!!! ❄️
The central Idea of this episode - The Old fashioned storyteller always remains in Fashion
Damnn what a headache a decade caused for india
It's like a mini world war for india fighting everyone for its protection
#RESPECT
This war started with attack on Vizag dec 4th . But our navy fought valiantly and defended Vizag and thus won the war...eventually
The war started on 3 Dec with Pak Air Force attacking air installations at Agra. PM Indira Gandhi was in Bhuwaneshwar and flew back to Delhi later in the night.
So.. you are here kishan !
SG sir said : War solves nothing.
Azerbaijanis and Amerinians disagree 😂😂
Their problem is not solved. It has only intensified their conflict. They'll be at it again in couple of decades.
Too naive of you to imagine that Nagorno-Karabakh is solved
SG: War solves nothing
America: *Laughs in WW2*
USSR: Laughed till 1991.
@@ishanbajpai6940 Soviet Union sacrificed a lot. They had more of a phyrric victory.
@@aniseedus Soviet union was physically attacked/ invaded unlike USA by the Nazi's and so they had to sacrifice a lot.
@@ishanbajpai6940 USSR wasn't as strong as the US, the only major advantage they had were due to their large network of spies all across the US.
@@ishanbajpai6940 yeah I know
Guptaji would love to see a entire episode on the man himself! Sam Manekshaw!!!
Hi Ashwin, excellent suggestion.
Oh yes! We need a movie on him, a true superhero of the Indian Army
Vicky Kushal is making a movie
@@QuestioningIndian we don't need bollywood to make a movie on him, the Indian Army has just become a cash cow for bollywood
"WAR is sweet to those who haven't experienced IT".
@ddaIt did not resolve anything. india will still have to fight many front war.
This time india will give freedom to a new country inside india.
All the comments responding to Mehul seem to be missing his point... And in doing so, actually proving it!
Yes, true, my college promised we'd experience IT, but only war provides experience with Information technology 😅
SG: war never solves anything
Unless you sell weapons
Shekar ji looks like RK lakshman's common man in this video...so cute.
😂😂😂
agree..
He's the extraordinary common man of India. @SG hope you read my comment.
C..cute..cute?
Ok
Indians should read the book by Lt. Gen JFR Jacob - "Surrender at Dacca" Birth of A Nation." I was a young man who worked with Mukti Bahini operations during the night in Dhaka. We maintained weapons for night time raids by Mukti Bahini. A lot of credit to Ms. Indira Gandhi for her assistance and selecting her Generals, correctly.
I have read that book brother....great book by Gen.Jacob,he shared many many key experiences. He has given huge credit to Muktis which they deserved.
I have that book with Gen. Jacob's face on its cover...
Just read your comment and ordered the book😀
SG: War solves NOTHING
Azerbaijan: Hold my Made-in-Turkey Drones
They simply got a small territory which they should have otherwise managed to do by peaceful dialogs. Azeri Armenian conflict will go on because now Armenians will prepare to take that territory back. As soon as Russia weakens Armenians will come back.
@@Valkyri3Z Dialogue and territories? Only India and Bangladesh managed that because India showed a bigger heart and decided not to be a bully. Things haven't been such with Pakistan or China. I can understand Pakistan's pov regarding Kashmir but the two countries can engage and settle issues not linked to the Kashmir sphere but the stakeholders in Pakistan are not civilian leadership so it's not gonna happen any time soon.
@@sankalpn5669 I commented on Azeri Armenian issue. IN BD issue totally different. Both are friendly countries so both agreed to do it , it was easy as both sides had big heart. IN PAK issue is also different. The point is war did not solve that issue. IN PAK will keep fighting for next 100 years but problem will not solve. Because its a political problem , not a military problem. You can not solve a political problem with army.
@@Valkyri3Z It was never a political problem. It's a military problem. It is the Punjabi Pakistani army that doesn't want a solution. Vajpayee and Musharraf came close to a resolution only for actors within the Punjabi establishment to destabilise talks and later derail any sort of dialogue through the Indian parliament attack.
@@sankalpn5669 Again , the main question whether Kashmir should remain in India , join Pak or be independent is a political problem where the involved parties are Pak , Indian govt and Kashmiri people. It depends on how this three sides want to play this but at the end of the day it is a political problem. Kashmir could have been easily assimilated into India if India did not try to destroy democracy in Kashmir during Nehru era. The problem aggravated as Indian state consistently undermined democratic system in Kashmir , rigged election arrested leaders etc. And Pak kept pushing insurgent to fan dissatisfaction among Kashmiris. Its all political.
The 60s would have shown us what we can overcome, but then those times, we had wise people around! Are they around now? Think!
Another good one Shekhar!
Nostalgic.
No no.... We suddenly now have stupid people. What a cuckold comment to make lol😂
Think!
If we face such adversaries.. People will again rise to the occasion.
Bangladeshi here.
Nice analysis as always, sir. We are always grateful to every Indian soldier who fought in the 1971 war against the occupying force.
I know Indians aren’t really fond of Mrs Gandhi for Operation Bluestar and the emergency, but she (and Field Marshal Manekshaw) will always hold a special place in our hearts.
To me, war, is damaging to both sides. Victory at a high cost! Thanks so much Sir for recommending these books!
War brings damage to both sides
, and bring hates, and continuous problem.
3:15 Only a battle lost is sadder than a battle won
While Pakistan degraded its Ahmadiyya heroes, India lionized its Jewish, Zoroastrian and Sikh heroes in the 1971 war. Although war is a tragedy, the 1971 war publicized secular, idealistic and powerful India at its finest!
Great episode sir. Proud to be Indian and Hindu. As a kid always wondered why we should invest in army so much when our first aim should be to eradicate poverty and equal life for all. But now understand how much our army sacrifices to save our nation 🙏 I recently read 3 million Hindus in East Pakistan were killed during March to December 1971. Women were subjected to extreme violence. The statistics and incidents left me numb. Indian army helped liberation for Bangladesh and our Hindu brothers and sisters sacrificed their lives there, but how are Hindus treated in Bangladesh today? Something to ponder.
Before partition of India, Manekshaw and Yahya Khan (President of Pakistan during 1971 war) were friends and on the staff of Field Marshall Sir Claude Auchinleck. Sam Manekshaw owned a red James motorcycle, which Yahya had an eye on. He offered to buy the motorcycle for Rs. 1000. Manekshaw agreed to sell the motorcycle. Partition happened and Yahya took the motorcycle to Pakistan, never paying the thousand rupees he owned to Sam Manekshaw. After the Instrument of Surrender was signed on 16 December 1971, Gen. Sam Manekshaw was heard saying, “Yahya never paid me the Rs. 1,000 for my motorbike, but now he has paid with half his country.” Sam Bahadur had a wicked sense of humour 😂
Yes, he certainly did have a good sense of humour!
9:15 one of my elderly neighbor who served in the 1971 war told me stories about it he used to say "to boost the morale of the Pakistani army hindu were mocked and the Muslim were led to believe that they can fight 10 hindus alone as Allah was on their side. " It definitely gives you an insight that how Pakistan as a nation thinks.
In india army there are Muslims some where died
@@shuaibk2860 my comment absolutely no where mentions anything about Indian Muslims it's a fact Buddy
@Shafiq Ul-rehman kicked Pakistan out of Kashmir thrice even though mullahs keep saying kashmir is jannat and allah has given jannat to Muslims hence kashmir will become Pakistan but 75 years Allah has not failed to deliver 😂 and coming to when allah supports and opposes Muslims didn't a united muslim army got destroyed in the wars against Israel? Why didn't allah support Muslims then? What's the excuse 😂😂😂
Why don't more journalist create this type of content where you analyse a complete issue and without a bias of great nature??
Always joyful to watch cut the clutter episode
@@msgstoas it's all bjp politics you will not hear much about Bangladeshi after WB elections
Gr8 sacrifice by the people of the 60's🙏
A day without Shekhar Gupta is a day wasted.
Even after 50 years of Vijay Diwas, neither India nor Bangladesh can never officially commemorate and honour Special Frontier Force's contributions for this war. Without them Victory wouldn't have been easy
enriching me everyday with knowledge of politics, facts and history,,Thank u Sir,,,
Hats off to the army and to those brave soldiers who sacrificed their lives to secure freedom for the Bangladeshis.
It was Bhia Shabeg Singh who captured Bangladesh and who later fought with Sant Jarnail Singh against Indian State attack on the Golden Temple
Not 13 days war! It's 9 months long war to liberate Motherland.
If ahmadiyas being muslim are not allowed to public office, then what about non muslims in pakistan?
In india any muslim can become prime minister/president.
SG's dressing is a mirror of the 80's 90's dressing sense. Love that checkered light-colour blazer.
This is very unfortunate that no mentioning of Mukti bahini. The surrender was to Indian & Bangladesh joint alies arm force. We had 9 sector each had sector commander. the war was for 9 months not 13 days. Many of the areas were freed before India devlare the war. Thanks to India for your help & most importantly withdraw troops swiftly (cradit goes Bangabaandu). I am really sad, the Print is becoming blind eyed.
Vijay Diwas
I happened to see a dog fight between IAF and PAF planes at Baroda in broad day light at around 9:30 AM. With civil defence sirens blaring, I stood out watching the dog fight rather than taking cover. Until a shrapnel (perhaps from a ground battery fire) fell near my feet. It was searing hot. It was around 8th or 9th Dec
Hey Krishna. You experienced a slice of history.
@@ThePrintIndia Yes, I did. Thanks. Baroda division of railway used to run a special train for aviation fuel to somewhere in Punjab every day
Shekhar Gupta did not want to upset Antonia Maino by Iisting lndira Gandhi's mistakes after 1971 war by doing nothing on POK
brilliant analysis. today's generation doesn't understand the turbulent times of 60's India. I think the 65 war is the most important war in the history of India. We almost lost Kashmir had we have not opened the front in Lahore front and internally we had problems in the Northeast and South and the economy was in ruins. But we came out of it to make a better India
Hi Achyut, thanks for writing in.
India's Digital Prime Time is here! What makes SG special are his facts. His facts are spot on:)
A true depiction of facts and figures and an unbiased review of the brutal history... much respect to Sir Shekhar Gupta from Pakistan
Shekhar ji seem to be wrong here that India didn't benefitted:
1: India after 1971 did not had to worry about East any further as pakistan was gone.
2: Wars stopped after 1971 event in this region as this made indian opponents understand that India was a force to reckon with, thus bringing peace for india.
3: Indians got a sense of pride which was at all time low because of loss of 1962
Another lesson is don't mix politics with armed forces and that Indians may seem to fight amongst themselves all the times but always stand resolute in times of crisis
And don't mix relegion with war. Indian armed forces are Indian not hindu.
As soon SG Sir said shortest descisive war I thought about the six day war immediately and u addressed it in the next second ..makes me feel we are a good informative and concise community of "the print" subscribers ..
Hi Raveesh! Happy to hear that!
Always provides the right content on each occasion
Sir, DMK under C.N.Annadurai dropped the Dravida Naadu demand in 1962 after the war with the Chinese broke out. They were very much part of the Indian federal system in 1967 when they were elected to power in the then Madras state. Wanted to point out this error... But absolutely love CTC. Thanks for doing a fantastic job and hope you have recovered from your recent illness.
Always look forward to Cut the Cluttter.
I wish that our PM had undefeatable security in Tashkent in 1966 !
Also lets not forget Field Marshal Sam Manekshaw .....
Thanks to India for all over support for our Bangladesh's libetation war.
I pressed like button for subject itself
"No country should look forward to war." That's a lesson many Indians need to learn. We think our army is a toy or kill machine but forget that army personals also have families.
Give me one day to just talk on war with Shekhar Sir
I like you even before I watch the video....because i trust you more than anyone in the media....I am a nationalist...i put everything before national interest...
Shekhar chacha looking sharp 👌
I am eagerly awaiting for Shekhar Sir’s book on geopolitical issues that shaped the last 5 decades, ✌️
OMG !! This opened my eyes.. I am born in late 80s and although I am so interested in history but never realised that 60s were so challenging for our nation.. 😯 no more wars pls 👍
THANK YOU SHEKHARJI...!!!
RIGHT " A WAR DOSE NOT SOLVE THE PROBLEMS. EVEN WHEN YOU WIN IT "...!!!
I WILL ADD TO THAT ...IT WILL ONLY CREATE MORE SUFFERING...FROM BOTH SIDE OF THE WAR...!!!
Knew Shekhar ji through his "Walk the talk" on NDTV. But this cut the clutter really has made me a fan! One of the most honest voices in Indian media I would say and that by being perfectly neutral in the truest of sense!
Brilliant balanced and level headed analysis by knowledgeable gentleman. You draw a natural respect from your friends and foe.
Thank you SG for the book recommendations
Shekhar sir should teach journalism in colleges . Finally news without debates
One thing I remember about this time is the daily blackouts in Bengaluru although it was way out of range any fighter plane Pakistan had possessed at that time. Windows of All houses were covered with brown paper and they used simulate air raids at least once a week. My maternal uncle was part of MEG and participated in the war in Army Engineering division in the Eastern sector.
The dislikes are from Pakistanis... 😂😂😂
Sir do a programme on how ordinary people of both people India and Pakistan can help to defuse tension created by our leaders.
What a nice perception!!!!😄😄😄😄 we Bangali fought nine months for our liberation, but India fought 13 days for therir glrious showcase victory!!!!
Wasn't 71 war victory best opportunity in history for us to solve Kashmir problem? We had the leverage of 90000 soldiers over Pakistan.
Excellent, knowledgeable and honest opinion!
So we'll explained. I learned a lot in this video.
As a Pakistani I disagree with you. After winning 1971 war India weakened Pakistan created Bangladesh and achieved its military objectives. Similarly, if Pakistan have won whole of Kashmir ( even excluding Ladakh) in 1948 Kashmir war it would have solved the problem of Kashmir once for all. As Pakistan was unable to achieve it's military objective due to irregular and disorganized Pathans volunteers (valiant fighters no doubt) fighting against a superior enemy (British trained, battle hardened( world war 2 veterans) highly disciplined Indian Army.
Dravidian Movement was not seperatist movement. Anna clearly said in parliament that they had left the seperatist path but the reason for asking seperate nation is still alive. It is still relevant in 2020!
Happy birthday to grandfather and to grandchildren bangladesh 🇧🇩
Looser in cheif gen niazi who has said after war -"Rawalpindi ke hramzaado ne hra diya"😂😆
Excellent explanation of military history in brief. I have learnt more from here about India's war with its neighboring countries. Keep up the good work. These things should be taught in schools.
Remarkable! India 🇮🇳 Pakistan 🇵🇰 military history is fascinating. The results of all the wars are similar to all the World Cup 🏟 indo - pak cricket 🏏 matches also !
@19:00 I am sure we want it.
Thank you sir
Gupta uncle has such an awesome sunny disposition about him. Print is such a trove of knowledge, history and positivity
good comments.
And the biggest surrender in 2nd world war was at Stalingrad. Around 220000 Germans surrendered, 800000 killed Russions lost 1100000 soilders and in total in Second world war Russians lost 91 lakh soliders. Compered with that Bangladesh war was sweet and short war.
Sir, I beg to differ on one comment, "it was not separatist movement by Seikh Mujiboor but Independence movement".
Thank you
yes
Bravo.
Shekhar Gupta Sir .....i thing of important event you missed in 60s is the naxalite movement . I believe that was also an important event of that period
The impartial and best analysis sir, salute to you both countries now must live in peace as both are nuclear powers, thanks sir
We are a peaceful nation today, Liberal, plural, non aligned (in spirir) all such good things because our founding fathers, Nehru and Gandhi and Patel took the path of peace, Liberal thinking, made India civil constitution based country and not Religious based country, embracing of all religions in India,taught us to see unity in diversity... that foundation has given us peace (in doubt? Just see Wedt Asia, Pakistan, Sri Lanka, China and more) salute you sirs ...
Forgot Naxal movement which also started during 60s
Mr. Gupta why we Indians don't shout and say that we ONLY DEFENDED OURSELVES IN WARS WITH PAK? We never started a war to capture other country ever. It is shown as if we were equally part for making the war happen.
My hats off to you sir! A very good and thoughtful analysis....well done.
India won the war but lost in negotiation table...