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What rubbish you are talking about. Bangladesh fought with Pakistan/India never ever went war with Pakistan in 1971. 10 month war can’t be won by 10 days
I think you should thank rss also for having citizen act so they going to send all east Pakistani i Bangladeshi back even if they are third generation Indian ha ha
@@syediqbal2543 you anti-bengali support them, Bengali haters, we Bengalis don't support RSS, Also no one has the guts to send any Indian and Bengali anywhere, every citizen of India (exception some brainless religious extrimist) will stood by their rights.
@@syediqbal2543 You must also thank thePakPakPakArmy, mirrorImageOfRSSsanghis😂🤣🔥 for single handedly destroying both Bangladesh in 1972 and WestPakistanOfJinnah up until this very day.ExactMirrorImageOfRSSAndddddBhaktChhdddzzzzzzOfJinnahsBrokenRuinedHumiliatedSulkingBeggingWestPakistan🤣😂🤣
American here - please forgive us for trusting Pakistan and China. Nixon was extremely scared of Russia and thought the only way to win was partnering with China against Russia - however they backstabbed us and stole land, then Pakistan even helped the Taliban against us in Afghanistan - we are now learning our lessons about China/Pakistan. I hope you can forgive us and India/USA can partner in the future.
This is whitewashing of facts, clear propaganda in the name of healthy respectful interview. Print and their LEFT propaganda, the rumour is even Global times are looking out for the journalists working at the Print to handle the CCP propaganda division branch at Kolkata
Thanks Jyoti for inviting the author and interviewing him (and allowing him to talk). Lots of unknown details have come out during the interview. The book seems to be a good buy. It is unusual that Amb. Dasgupta does not appear in any TV Channels or even talks on You Tube channels. He is extremely articulate and scholarly person; the young Indians need to watch such people talk to understand nuances of diplomacy and how national interests are nurtured and protected.
Brilliant and articulate diplomat. He also led India in the climate change negotiations leading up to the 1992 Rio Earth Summit. I had the privilege of meeting him in Beijing in May 1993 when he was Indian Ambassador to China. And what a memory of people and the finer points of the events of 1970-71 and the ability to put them in the broader Cold War and US-China contexts. Thank you The Print for this jewel of an interview. And bravo - Indian journalism lives on!
Amazing first-hand account of the times. Ambassador while cautiously candid, Ms Malhotra at her best teasing out a couple more layers than the person across would readily let known. Checking the book out for sure. 😊
I get a feeling that a section of the media and some journalists are more fixated with Nehrus, Gandhis, Modis and Shas than 137.975 core Indians. I wonder whether this attitude will help in building the young India.
@@coexistordontexist at that time the High Commissioner representing India in the Caribbean was from Bengal. We also had a number of very educated Bengalis living among us so we were kept up to date on the struggles. 50% of our population is from the Indian subcontinent.
Many untold story has been narrated. Bangladesh is the only country in the recent world history which created on the basis of language. All Bangali people living in East Pakistan were united and stood against Pakistani oppression. Today we celebrating 50th anniversary of our independent. On this occasion, we strongly remember the great contribution Indian people and government made towards our war of Liberation against Pakistan in 1971. We expect that India and Bangladeshi people will live under the friendship sprit of 1971.
@@vivekpatil3834 Ups and downs happen in relationships. Bangladesh should not be expected to be forever grateful, it has its interests and sensitivities which Indians must acknowledge. Similarly, Bangladesh should never forget that it was not merely the Indian Government but the Indian people who rose up in sympathy and support of an opressed and humiliated population. The strategic benefits from breakup of Pakistan were not really part of Indian thinking but came into consideration only after it became clear that WP was bent on crushing the people of EP ( Bangladesh)
@@vivekpatil3834This was and this is just because of madarsa chhap education. Today I was watching a channel taking interview of kashimri guys.One of them said that we are very happy with present government but we don't want that government should interfere in our religious matters.The journalist asked such?The guy replied like keeping one,two or three wifes.the anchor asked can you marry another woman without the consent of the wife?The guy replied yes I can because our deen allows to do so.I gone mad after listening these words. औरत को पैर की जूती समझ रखा है क्या क्या वह अल्लाह की औलाद नहीं है दूसरी औरत लाने से पहले वाली औरत की मानसिक तकलीफ का अंदाजा अल्लाह को नहीं क्या? औरत को भोग विलास ऐश और आराम की वस्तु बना दिया उसके कुछ भी जज्बात नहीं है दूसरी तरफ कहते हैं इस्लाम में औरत को बहुत इज्जत का दर्जा दिया है इससे बड़ा कोई मजाक हो सकता है जफर हैट्रिक की बात ठीक लगती है
East Pakistan broke away from West Pakistan and declared itself as independent Bangladesh and India gave all out support in achieving victory in the ensuing war. But does it imply the same thing when the title says “India broke Pakistan” ?
The real title why Indirajiji broke Pakistan? She was a genius fragmented Pakistan China ran as fast as they could and USA was baffled. Blasted the nuclear bomb in 1974, took Sikkim, Siachen and even parts of POK back. Also taught China lesson at Nathu La in 1967. The real game: China had joined up with the Jewish lobby headed by Kissinger., USSR was deceived by China and in 1969 USSR liquidated 42,000 Chinese on the Ussuri river. Thus India emerged as a superpower aided by the loyal USSR and now Russia.
It was not just Yahya Khan but Bhutto who refused to hand over power to Mujib which resulted in the Pak Army genocide of Bengalis n breakup of Pakistan
Gifting back 93000 POWs including notorious 205 war criminals to Pakistan was a great injustice to Bangladesh. India coould've tried those war criminals {like Nuremburg trial, Tokyo trial after World War II). Pakistan Army committed atrocities, genocide of three million Bengalis and rapes over four hundred thousand women in Bangladesh.
Lol, as if the Geneva convention and the UN wouldn't have come into picture. Pakistan even after losing the war played smartly than India, they focused on getting back the West Pakistan territories they lost in the war instead of getting back their 93000 soldiers because they knew that sooner or later, those POW will have to be released
You are absolutely right. However, what is desirable and what is achieveable have a big gap Except Russia the entire UNSC was under US thumb and Pakistan was the dearest pet poodle of USA at that time USSR too was under pressure for withdrawing support to India and had requested India to finish up the war quickly. In sum India achieved much and may have achieved more if global powers had not been against it.
For all his erudition and articulate explanation of the circumstances during that time, Amb Dasgupta wants us to believe that 1971 war's only strategic objective was the liberation of B'desh and didn't have anything to do with the western front. And then he has also spoken of Gen. Manikshaw for being politically naive... All I can say is that by saying and believing so, Amb Sengupta doesn't exactly present a good account of himself too, on that score. Also, to say that LOC could not be resolved on the post-war negotiating table is disingenuous. India kept the POWs for more than a year and in that period Mrs. Gandhi couldn't build a consensus with Indian public and opposition for converting the LOC into International border? She had recieved a huge boost to her political credibility & currency with the Indian public and polity & she couldn't use that to forge a consensus?? Really?? But, at the same time, Amb Dasgupta wants us to believe that Mrs. Gandhi managed all the geopolitical maneuvering and domestic political & military planning required to launch the B'desh war in just 8-9 months between Mar to Nov 1971? Looks like Amb Dasgupta sees Mrs. Gandhi as a superwoman when he wants to and projects her as a helpless politician just the next moment, as per his convenience. Did Mrs. Gandhi even display any intention or thought towards solving Kashmir and the boundary problem at the negotiating table? Also, if not LOC, why didn't she at least get Pakis to agree that they would not claim any part of Indian Kashmir anymore and get them to pass a resolution in their parliament & present a memorandum to India / UN on that? Wonder why she allowed herself to get led by her Kashmiri advisors Haskar and Dhar into keeping Kashmir out of negotiations? Unless she wanted to... The sad reality is that India won the war on the battlefield but frittered away the advantage on the negotiating table...
mr pandey ......mr c. Dasgupta was the indian diplomat at Dhaka, obviously he would've more knowledge about the inner working of the indian government then the internet armchair foreign policy expert. The cold war was in full swing and Nixon administration put immense pressure on india following 71' victory,future us president proposed a draft a resolution at UN for ceasefire . India only has the backing of USSR but these factors gets some how overlooked because it's not the flavour of the season. As for mr Manekshaw did built a cult around himself about his strategic prowess following the 71' liberation war. p.s Read Steve coll's book on 71'.
Any way Mrs Gandhi took the political decision to march in to East Pakistan and Gen Manekshaw did a good job and today india has a friend in Bangladesh other wise Pakistan could have done more damage today
H Pandey, why did you change his name to Sengupta in your second Paragraph? ;) Anyway, I came across something interesting in a documentary this year, that stated that the CIA had in fact informed Nixon that he simply could not use the Enterprise in any kinetic manner in the Bay of Bengal and that they were merely going to "let things play out".
it shows that leadership matters. Back in 1971, Mrs. Gandhi was able to lead India through a very difficult situation and victories. Compare that to now, China is sitting on 38,000 sqr.km Indian territory, but the present government is unable to do anything.
Yes, even after winning war against a very small Pakistan, she couldn't take back POK! And what exactly did India gain by liberating Bangladesh? Just like his useless dad Nehru who presented Aksai Chin and parts of Arunachal Pradesh to China in gift. I get it that you are a Modi hater, but distortion of facts is utterly disgraceful. My brother and father both are employed with the Indian paramilitary forces, we know for a fact that this govt is hell bent on protecting the border. China is sitting inside our border is an absolute propaganda by the Chinese communist party but the truth is this time, indian forces are sitting well inside the territory of China
@@karanagarwal9256 Do you know that India has separatist movements in North East India ? If Bangladesh was not independent, then Pakistan army would for sure fuel those separatists movements. Why do you think Kashmiri separatists movements is such a problem for India? Because Pakistan army fuel those movements. Bangladesh state never fuel any separatists movements of North East India. Infact Ulfa leaders have been arrested with the help of Bangladesh. This is what India gained after getting Bangladesh as a neighbor.
@@karanagarwal9256 Yes, she didn't because she was wise enough to know once the whole of Kashmir is under her command, she needs to hold a referendum according to the 1949 UN resolution. OK, her father Nehru trusted China & lost a lot of territories. Nehru was decent enough to admit it. What's happening now? 56"
@@Ram78979 OMG you idiot. China is sitting on LAC, which is what India had lost during the 62 war. China has not encroached in anymore Indian territory than what it lost to China in 62. At least learn your history before talking.
@@Ram78979 Lol, no one follows what UN says. Tell me what did the UN do on the issue of Afghanistan. UN is just a spokesperson of the US. Just because there would be repercussions from the UN doesn't mean we do not take POK back, what an absurd logic this is
Tricky Dick Nixon and the Prussian Henry Kissinger- my all-time villains.But a fascinating conversation by one who was in the thick of things. And the deliberate targeting of Hindus by the Pak Army is something that I have heard, but is now confirmed.
My final question to Mr. Dasgupta would've been, why Bangladesh has become sort of anti-India now? It feels so strange listening to these names especially when I physically saw Indira Gandhi, Nixon, Brezhnev and Zhou Enlai.
@@damiendehorn6350 I think India treats Bangladesh at par but maybe Bangladeshis think that way or may be Bangladesh thinks it should be treated someone special. All these countries like Nepal, Burma, Ceylon, Maldives and Bangladesh want to take advantage by playing between China and India and I think India should treat them the way they treat India.
@@damiendehorn6350 You idiot India interfered in East Pakistan's internal matter and that's how it became an independent country. Learn something before flapping your gums.
why didn't India press hard for getting its own soldiers back. A defensive thought can subsume the logic of loosing Geneva convention immunity but why we were unable to get our own men back? Logic applies both ways. If India can return 93,000 soldiers and ranks then why can't pakistan return our 54+ soldiers ...
@@mohsinali-ub3pu Ever thought why nobody in world gives a shit about your 'millions killed' rant? Because total population of Kashmir valley is just around 4 million. If millions would have killed as per your claim noone would have been left there. So by saying millions killed you guys keep exposing your lies and then wonder why nobody believes you except your master who has even better record in wiping out its population than you.
@@nihalpathak3407 if u dnt care it doesnt mean anybdy does. Ur hands r stained with blood of innocent kashmiris. Thats wat we knw fr sure. N wat u think we litrealy dnt giv a shit......
@@mohsinali-ub3pu well why UN doesn't give any shit about kashmir. UN also didn't discuss kashmir after revocation of article 370.your imaginary genocide is fake
Mr Dasgupta shows how weak policy on the aggressor works. Expecting to create international pressure on the aggressor is time consuming and not effective strategy. Our old time foreign policy makers had this problem. After capturing Pak army, they could have hand over the war criminals to Bangla government. Instead they set free all criminals. Confident policy maker does not wait for international support. Example is- attack on Balakot, our air force goes in Pak territory and bombs the centers.
You did great comparison among balakot strike and 1971 war in which 93, 000 pakistan soldiers were surrendered. By the way, in last 6 months, huge spike in terrorism in Kashmir, despite balakot strike.
@@amolsapkal16 This is a war with different weapons. Terrorism is a weapon. Spreading lies on main and social media is a weapon. Cyber attack and disturbing electricity and energy supply, railways etc is a weapon. in the days of King Shivaaji - gorilla warfare was weapon not known to Moguls. India is slowly waking up to these weapons and need to fight against these different weapons!
Very poor defense of Indira Gandhi. Geneva convention did not stipulate those who committed crimes against humanity should not be hold accountable. Allies hold Nuremberg trial and Tokyo War Crimes Tribunal. None of those actions were contrary to Geneva convention. Geneva convention also did not state, one should hand back all the territory it has captured after a hard fought war. IG returned 5,795 sq mi of territory and released 93000 POW for FREE(not one was tried !), without taking into account that nearly 3,000 Indian troops gave their lives and majority of the civilian population killed in East Pakistan were from Hindu community. She was a definitely not a far sighted statesman as portrayed by the interviewee !
Just have always had a dislike 👎🏽 for these “Cashmere “ kind of diplomats. It’s the army men and common people who had died and contributed in the 1971 war. And these guys take the credit
So you just want to break up a country to destabilise it. You don't like muslims anyway. Why do you feel so bad for balochistan. Do you even know anything about the region. Thinking like you've arrived somewhere. Pyjama chap.
Jyoti, can you bag an interview with Kissinger, especially now that he is in the mood for talking up his ping pong diplomacy. He's not going to be around for much longer.
Where lies any hope of India getting back POK ? Zilch in my view. Indira ought to have built consensus and leveraged the war to convert the Line of Control into an international border. How much money and bloodshed could have been avoided in the 50 years since … and counting …. had that been done. She missed an opportunity as did her father with China as a quid pro quo to our stepping back in Tibet. But at least she won the war unlike Nehru who led the country to an ignominious defeat.
Totally... Giving away POWs JLT in the name of goodwill was actually stoopid. India post independence has number of such stoopid examples where we could have wrecked havoc on our enemies BUT we chose not to!.... In fact there was no need for a Bangladesh, coz today you got radicals there who actually side with Pak and call them brothers while simultaneously rubbishing India... Plus the fact that there were sooo many refugees who never left and have now become a source of confrontation from locals in northeast... Bengal was partioned by Brits... We had a chance to unite it forever BUT we chose not to!...
The interviewer must stop interrupting the interviewee and be more patient…wait until the statement is completed … she keeps completing his sentences which is extremely annoying
Typical bureaucrat/diplomat undermining a soldier. Clipped accent cannot hide the bias. Persons like him can sit in AC rooms and literally not to have his boots on the ground.
Not every one can go to a war zone. You get killed if you enter a war zone just like that... RSS knows better than any one else. They are the ones who told they can occupy Pakistan in a day, so why aren't they doing it?
One should raed the book 'Blood Telegram' to realise how much Nixon and Kissinger hated India. These two Americans are largelly responsible for the rise of China today and the decline of America. In their desire to limit Soviet's power, they backed China, and now you see the result. Hope the Americans and the whole world will realise that Kissinger is not that great diplomat or foreign policy analyst. One should also read tne Kissnger's convesations with Mao when he repeatedly ridiculed India and Nehru.
They - Bangladesh is doing very well - and have no reason to want to reunite with a loser country like Pakistan. So they do not want re-unification. In fact many provinces like Sind, Baluchistan & KP want liberation from the Punjabi hegemony in PK. And that may be the way it is all heading.
@@skscorporation9534 - if you are implying that Pakistanis are regretting the partition - then you are probably right. I would too if I were a Pakistani - seeing how IN is progressing and how badly they themselves are doing. However - it is too late to put humpty-dumpty back again - and in my mind - I consider PK going away as good riddance. No regrets, No comebacks and No mercy.
Is it really to discuss the strategies indian government adopted during those days? What message do we plan to share with international media? I find a hidden agenda behind. Tread carefully the print!!
The fact that this polished English speaker/former Ambassador to China is more interested in spending time in writing a book on creation of Bangladesh makes me question as to what exactly was he doing in China as an ambassador when Chinese were going full throttle on economic front? Was he there just for sight seeing and enjoying himself? I put him and Shashi Tharoor in same category- polished and fluent english, can win some debates but when it comes to thinking and ACTING strategically find someone else. Unfortunately english fluency is highly valued in Upper echelons of Indian bureaucracy than economic(and other Critical) problem solving abilities. These people are always worried about what others(countries) will think and never take bold action. These are high salaried Babu Sahibs and Status quo keeps their jobs secure. I would rather be interested in Foreign ambassadors who are relentless and voracious economic opportunity hunters in the countries they are privileged to be posted in and thus constantly increasing market share for Indian businesses. Enough of this nostalgia of old wars etc. Are you ready and focused on fighting real (economic) war happening right now or will you bury your head in sand and keep imagining the 'good old days'/war wins/comparisons with Pakistan etc?
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What rubbish you are talking about. Bangladesh fought with Pakistan/India never ever went war with Pakistan in 1971. 10 month war can’t be won by 10 days
@@171186ra Who captured your 93,000 soldiers. Including thousands of officers.as POW.'s
@@iqbalsinghkadyan8963 Stop daydreaming who don't know anything about war.
I can't but thank Mrs Indira Gandhi for what she did for Bangladesh. She will be revered always and will stand high and mighty in my heart.
I think you should thank rss also for having citizen act so they going to send all east Pakistani i Bangladeshi back even if they are third generation Indian ha ha
@@syediqbal2543 you anti-bengali support them, Bengali haters, we Bengalis don't support RSS, Also no one has the guts to send any Indian and Bengali anywhere, every citizen of India (exception some brainless religious extrimist) will stood by their rights.
Whatever the consequences, we Pakistanis shall avenge the unending humiliation of Surrender. Mark my words!
@@syediqbal2543 You must also thank thePakPakPakArmy, mirrorImageOfRSSsanghis😂🤣🔥 for single handedly destroying both Bangladesh in 1972 and WestPakistanOfJinnah up until this very day.ExactMirrorImageOfRSSAndddddBhaktChhdddzzzzzzOfJinnahsBrokenRuinedHumiliatedSulkingBeggingWestPakistan🤣😂🤣
@@romm2885 open challenge awkad nahi ha
It was a delight to listen to this conversation.
American here - please forgive us for trusting Pakistan and China. Nixon was extremely scared of Russia and thought the only way to win was partnering with China against Russia - however they backstabbed us and stole land, then Pakistan even helped the Taliban against us in Afghanistan - we are now learning our lessons about China/Pakistan. I hope you can forgive us and India/USA can partner in the future.
@@smiley4669 America also helped to vanquish Tamils in srilanka and guess what happened Sinhalese aligned with china.
The quality of journalism here is amazing.
Thank you for being a beacon of hope in the otherwise depressing landscape in the country.
This is whitewashing of facts, clear propaganda in the name of healthy respectful interview.
Print and their LEFT propaganda, the rumour is even Global times are looking out for the journalists working at the Print to handle the CCP propaganda division branch at Kolkata
Thanks Jyoti for inviting the author and interviewing him (and allowing him to talk). Lots of unknown details have come out during the interview. The book seems to be a good buy.
It is unusual that Amb. Dasgupta does not appear in any TV Channels or even talks on You Tube channels. He is extremely articulate and scholarly person; the young Indians need to watch such people talk to understand nuances of diplomacy and how national interests are nurtured and protected.
@@rakadus Yes. Much better!!
Mr Ambassador... great you have truly given contribution by all people of society.. thanks.By the way I was also in the 1971 war in western front.
Thank Russia for being a loyal friend . Indian Military Veterans .
Brilliant and articulate diplomat. He also led India in the climate change negotiations leading up to the 1992 Rio Earth Summit. I had the privilege of meeting him in Beijing in May 1993 when he was Indian Ambassador to China. And what a memory of people and the finer points of the events of 1970-71 and the ability to put them in the broader Cold War and US-China contexts. Thank you The Print for this jewel of an interview. And bravo - Indian journalism lives on!
👍🏻indian journalism lives on 🍾
Mrs Indira Gandhi slapped Kissinger and Nixon,and made Yaya Khan to kneel down.Nixon used unparlimentary words towards PM of India.
This should have been an hour and half long video... Great interview and another author who is now added to my 'Want To Read' list.
What an articulate man. Thank You Print, for introducing us to Sir :)
Indira is the first & only Iron Lady. Thanks Mrs.Gandhi for the wonderful victory.
@@vsx862 Yes, because she was again elected by people of India ans till, 1984, she was PM.
Amazing first-hand account of the times. Ambassador while cautiously candid, Ms Malhotra at her best teasing out a couple more layers than the person across would readily let known.
Checking the book out for sure. 😊
I get a feeling that a section of the media and some journalists are more fixated with Nehrus, Gandhis, Modis and Shas than 137.975 core Indians. I wonder whether this attitude will help in building the young India.
So many misconceptions cleared now. Thanks for this brilliant interview.
Power of a women. India deserve such brave ruler today.
Thank u Jyoti Ma'am for bringing this story to us..and reminding us what India stood for even during its early days of existence
Thank you PM Indira Gandhi ! I feel so proud when I visit Dhaka and see pictures of the surrender ceremony everywhere including at airport
Thanks!
Thank you!
Team India had a glorious show in 1971 at world stage .
I was so fortunate in the Caribbean to be able to be part of the aid effort on behalf of Bangladesh.
I'm so curious, what does this mean? What is the Caribbean relationship to Bangladesh?
@@coexistordontexist at that time the High Commissioner representing India in the Caribbean was from Bengal. We also had a number of very educated Bengalis living among us so we were kept up to date on the struggles. 50% of our population is from the Indian subcontinent.
Great treasure from few people who knows, understand and analyse contemporary history of India. 🙏
Lovely meaningful conversation. 👍
Many untold story has been narrated. Bangladesh is the only country in the recent world history which created on the basis of language. All Bangali people living in East Pakistan were united and stood against Pakistani oppression. Today we celebrating 50th anniversary of our independent. On this occasion, we strongly remember the great contribution Indian people and government made towards our war of Liberation against Pakistan in 1971. We expect that India and Bangladeshi people will live under the friendship sprit of 1971.
Someday you will explain in 1974 why J N Dixit was mishandled by mob in dhaka amidst the slogan of Pakistan Zindabad
@@vivekpatil3834 Ups and downs happen in relationships.
Bangladesh should not be expected to be forever grateful, it has its interests and sensitivities which Indians must acknowledge.
Similarly, Bangladesh should never forget that it was not merely the Indian Government but the Indian people who rose up in sympathy and support of an opressed and humiliated population.
The strategic benefits from breakup of Pakistan were not really part of Indian thinking but came into consideration only after it became clear that WP was bent on crushing the people of EP ( Bangladesh)
@@vivekpatil3834This was and this is just because of madarsa chhap education. Today I was watching a channel taking interview of kashimri guys.One of them said that we are very happy with present government but we don't want that government should interfere in our religious matters.The journalist asked such?The guy replied like keeping one,two or three wifes.the anchor asked can you marry another woman without the consent of the wife?The guy replied yes I can because our deen allows to do so.I gone mad after listening these words. औरत को पैर की जूती समझ रखा है क्या क्या वह अल्लाह की औलाद नहीं है दूसरी औरत लाने से पहले वाली औरत की मानसिक तकलीफ का अंदाजा अल्लाह को नहीं क्या? औरत को भोग विलास ऐश और आराम की वस्तु बना दिया उसके कुछ भी जज्बात नहीं है दूसरी तरफ कहते हैं इस्लाम में औरत को बहुत इज्जत का दर्जा दिया है इससे बड़ा कोई मजाक हो सकता है जफर हैट्रिक की बात ठीक लगती है
Now we are a Indian colony
Wow, such a good conversation. Curiosity of interviewer coupled with excellent story telling of interviewee.
Such an amazing discussion. just amazing.
Best narration, real-time eyes explaining makes Bangladesh
This conversation is 24 Karat GOLD!
Very illuminating and informative and thank you very much Ambassador Gupta and of course Print's Jyothi
True 1971 war was not about Kashmir but is foolish not to strike when the iron is hot
Yeah I'm not convinced about that argument of not taking over POK!!
thank you mam for interviewing das sir ...
East Pakistan broke away from West Pakistan and declared itself as independent Bangladesh and India gave all out support in achieving victory in the ensuing war. But does it imply the same thing when the title says “India broke Pakistan” ?
Thank you Dasgupta Sir and Print!!
Excellant desceiprion
Excellant description of events by Das.
That was really an insightful podcast!!!
The real title why Indirajiji broke Pakistan? She was a genius fragmented Pakistan China ran as fast as they could and USA was baffled. Blasted the nuclear bomb in 1974, took Sikkim, Siachen and even parts of POK back. Also taught China lesson at Nathu La in 1967. The real game: China had joined up with the Jewish lobby headed by Kissinger., USSR was deceived by China and in 1969 USSR liquidated 42,000 Chinese on the Ussuri river. Thus India emerged as a superpower aided by the loyal USSR and now Russia.
What dies liquidated 42,000 Chinese mean?
It was not just Yahya Khan but Bhutto who refused to hand over power to Mujib which resulted in the Pak Army genocide of Bengalis n breakup of Pakistan
What a fantastic interview!
Mr Dasgupta's description of the particular episode is very illuminating
Gifting back 93000 POWs including notorious 205 war criminals to Pakistan was a great injustice to Bangladesh. India coould've tried those war criminals {like Nuremburg trial, Tokyo trial after World War II). Pakistan Army committed atrocities, genocide of three million Bengalis and rapes over four hundred thousand women in Bangladesh.
Lol, as if the Geneva convention and the UN wouldn't have come into picture. Pakistan even after losing the war played smartly than India, they focused on getting back the West Pakistan territories they lost in the war instead of getting back their 93000 soldiers because they knew that sooner or later, those POW will have to be released
You are absolutely right. However, what is desirable and what is achieveable have a big gap
Except Russia the entire UNSC was under US thumb and Pakistan was the dearest pet poodle of USA at that time
USSR too was under pressure for withdrawing support to India and had requested India to finish up the war quickly.
In sum India achieved much and may have achieved more if global powers had not been against it.
For all his erudition and articulate explanation of the circumstances during that time, Amb Dasgupta wants us to believe that 1971 war's only strategic objective was the liberation of B'desh and didn't have anything to do with the western front.
And then he has also spoken of Gen. Manikshaw for being politically naive... All I can say is that by saying and believing so, Amb Sengupta doesn't exactly present a good account of himself too, on that score.
Also, to say that LOC could not be resolved on the post-war negotiating table is disingenuous. India kept the POWs for more than a year and in that period Mrs. Gandhi couldn't build a consensus with Indian public and opposition for converting the LOC into International border? She had recieved a huge boost to her political credibility & currency with the Indian public and polity & she couldn't use that to forge a consensus?? Really?? But, at the same time, Amb Dasgupta wants us to believe that Mrs. Gandhi managed all the geopolitical maneuvering and domestic political & military planning required to launch the B'desh war in just 8-9 months between Mar to Nov 1971? Looks like Amb Dasgupta sees Mrs. Gandhi as a superwoman when he wants to and projects her as a helpless politician just the next moment, as per his convenience.
Did Mrs. Gandhi even display any intention or thought towards solving Kashmir and the boundary problem at the negotiating table?
Also, if not LOC, why didn't she at least get Pakis to agree that they would not claim any part of Indian Kashmir anymore and get them to pass a resolution in their parliament & present a memorandum to India / UN on that?
Wonder why she allowed herself to get led by her Kashmiri advisors Haskar and Dhar into keeping Kashmir out of negotiations? Unless she wanted to...
The sad reality is that India won the war on the battlefield but frittered away the advantage on the negotiating table...
Indian subcontinent (1901-2011)
Hindus- 210M to 1B
Peacefuls- 60M to 600Million
Don't think Gazwa e hind is too far.
Perciscly
mr pandey ......mr c. Dasgupta was the indian diplomat at Dhaka, obviously he would've more knowledge about the inner working of the indian government then the internet armchair foreign policy expert.
The cold war was in full swing and Nixon administration put immense pressure on india following 71' victory,future us president proposed a draft a resolution at UN for ceasefire . India only has the backing of USSR but these factors gets some how overlooked because it's not the flavour of the season.
As for mr Manekshaw did built a cult around himself about his strategic prowess following the 71' liberation war.
p.s Read Steve coll's book on 71'.
Any way Mrs Gandhi took the political decision to march in to East Pakistan and Gen Manekshaw did a good job and today india has a friend in Bangladesh other wise Pakistan could have done more damage today
H Pandey, why did you change his name to Sengupta in your second Paragraph? ;) Anyway, I came across something interesting in a documentary this year, that stated that the CIA had in fact informed Nixon that he simply could not use the Enterprise in any kinetic manner in the Bay of Bengal and that they were merely going to "let things play out".
Indira Gandhi was the best for India.
Great interview.. good work print.. best regards
Wow!! What a great convo 🔥
Excellent interview 👍
Where is Jyothi Malhotra mam..we are missing her
Kudos to Mrs Gandhi for signing friendship treaty w Soviet Union to checkmate both US n China from creating problems
Mrs. Gandhi was an astute Politician. Very well versed and Diplomatically Brilliant.
What a difference; you hear this conversation and then u hear a any retired Pakistani generate’s jingoistic claims about 1971!
Thanks #ThePrintUninterrupted #ThePrint #JyotiMalhotra for this 👍
Mujibnagar was not an enclave in Calcutta, but a village in Meherpur subdivision (now a district) of Kushtia district inside Bangladesh territory.
it shows that leadership matters. Back in 1971, Mrs. Gandhi was able to lead India through a very difficult situation and victories. Compare that to now, China is sitting on 38,000 sqr.km Indian territory, but the present government is unable to do anything.
Yes, even after winning war against a very small Pakistan, she couldn't take back POK! And what exactly did India gain by liberating Bangladesh?
Just like his useless dad Nehru who presented Aksai Chin and parts of Arunachal Pradesh to China in gift.
I get it that you are a Modi hater, but distortion of facts is utterly disgraceful.
My brother and father both are employed with the Indian paramilitary forces, we know for a fact that this govt is hell bent on protecting the border.
China is sitting inside our border is an absolute propaganda by the Chinese communist party but the truth is this time, indian forces are sitting well inside the territory of China
@@karanagarwal9256 Do you know that India has separatist movements in North East India ? If Bangladesh was not independent, then Pakistan army would for sure fuel those separatists movements. Why do you think Kashmiri separatists movements is such a problem for India? Because Pakistan army fuel those movements. Bangladesh state never fuel any separatists movements of North East India. Infact Ulfa leaders have been arrested with the help of Bangladesh. This is what India gained after getting Bangladesh as a neighbor.
@@karanagarwal9256 Yes, she didn't because she was wise enough to know once the whole of Kashmir is under her command, she needs to hold a referendum according to the 1949 UN resolution. OK, her father Nehru trusted China & lost a lot of territories. Nehru was decent enough to admit it. What's happening now? 56"
@@Ram78979 OMG you idiot. China is sitting on LAC, which is what India had lost during the 62 war. China has not encroached in anymore Indian territory than what it lost to China in 62. At least learn your history before talking.
@@Ram78979 Lol, no one follows what UN says. Tell me what did the UN do on the issue of Afghanistan. UN is just a spokesperson of the US. Just because there would be repercussions from the UN doesn't mean we do not take POK back, what an absurd logic this is
It was Jyoti Malhotra best interview
Tricky Dick Nixon and the Prussian Henry Kissinger- my all-time villains.But a fascinating conversation by one who was in the thick of things. And the deliberate targeting of Hindus by the Pak Army is something that I have heard, but is now confirmed.
Why did india unilaterally declared Cessfire in the Western Front
Great, definitely gonna buy this book.
My final question to Mr. Dasgupta would've been, why Bangladesh has become sort of anti-India now? It feels so strange listening to these names especially when I physically saw Indira Gandhi, Nixon, Brezhnev and Zhou Enlai.
@@damiendehorn6350 I think India treats Bangladesh at par but maybe Bangladeshis think that way or may be Bangladesh thinks it should be treated someone special. All these countries like Nepal, Burma, Ceylon, Maldives and Bangladesh want to take advantage by playing between China and India and I think India should treat them the way they treat India.
@@damiendehorn6350 I never said India should be important to you or to anyone and all I'm saying treat them the way they treat you.
@@damiendehorn6350 You idiot India interfered in East Pakistan's internal matter and that's how it became an independent country. Learn something before flapping your gums.
Because of moulavi madarasa teaching - peaceful religion 😅😅😅😅
Absolutely brilliant.....
Beautiful conversations ~~
Just remember what happened to 3amigo who’s broke Pakistan Bhutto Mujeeb and Indra
So what, look at the status of pakistan. International beggar.
Nobody cares what happens to them. It’s the nation that matters. I am sure Indira Gandhi was proud to sacrifice her life for the nation.
why didn't India press hard for getting its own soldiers back.
A defensive thought can subsume the logic of loosing Geneva convention immunity but why we were unable to get our own men back?
Logic applies both ways. If India can return 93,000 soldiers and ranks then why can't pakistan return our 54+ soldiers ...
It was not part of the objective, much like how not a word was spoken on scale of rapes and massacre that went on.
Rape,murder was the basis for the rule of Pak.
joy bangla joy india
Happy u bring this issue so youth in pak shud know y v shudnt nvr b friends again...
Sure! See within why Bangladesh happened.
Did you miss killing of millions of civilians by Pakistani forces in East Pakistan?
@@vivekshukla05 wat about u killing millions in kashmir till today now....
@@mohsinali-ub3pu Ever thought why nobody in world gives a shit about your 'millions killed' rant? Because total population of Kashmir valley is just around 4 million. If millions would have killed as per your claim noone would have been left there. So by saying millions killed you guys keep exposing your lies and then wonder why nobody believes you except your master who has even better record in wiping out its population than you.
@@nihalpathak3407 if u dnt care it doesnt mean anybdy does. Ur hands r stained with blood of innocent kashmiris. Thats wat we knw fr sure. N wat u think we litrealy dnt giv a shit......
@@mohsinali-ub3pu well why UN doesn't give any shit about kashmir. UN also didn't discuss kashmir after revocation of article 370.your imaginary genocide is fake
What about the Indian pow's Pakistan had captured? She does not even ask that.. Many of them were left behind.. This lady is a real disappointment.
Very insightful 🍻
Jothi madam hosting an interview called "uninterrupted"
Oh the irony...
India should have arranged some land swap deal or asked for some land in exchange of support so that chicken neck could have been wider.
*wider, not more wider
@@effervescentevanescenttran6331 Ok English Teacher
Mr Dasgupta shows how weak policy on the aggressor works. Expecting to create international pressure on the aggressor is time consuming and not effective strategy. Our old time foreign policy makers had this problem. After capturing Pak army, they could have hand over the war criminals to Bangla government. Instead they set free all criminals. Confident policy maker does not wait for international support. Example is- attack on Balakot, our air force goes in Pak territory and bombs the centers.
You did great comparison among balakot strike and 1971 war in which 93, 000 pakistan soldiers were surrendered. By the way, in last 6 months, huge spike in terrorism in Kashmir, despite balakot strike.
@@amolsapkal16 This is a war with different weapons. Terrorism is a weapon. Spreading lies on main and social media is a weapon. Cyber attack and disturbing electricity and energy supply, railways etc is a weapon. in the days of King Shivaaji - gorilla warfare was weapon not known to Moguls. India is slowly waking up to these weapons and need to fight against these different weapons!
Very poor defense of Indira Gandhi. Geneva convention did not stipulate those who committed crimes against humanity should not be hold accountable. Allies hold Nuremberg trial and Tokyo War Crimes Tribunal. None of those actions were contrary to Geneva convention. Geneva convention also did not state, one should hand back all the territory it has captured after a hard fought war. IG returned 5,795 sq mi of territory and released 93000 POW for FREE(not one was tried !), without taking into account that nearly 3,000 Indian troops gave their lives and majority of the civilian population killed in East Pakistan were from Hindu community. She was a definitely not a far sighted statesman as portrayed by the interviewee !
Isn't it convenient to use Field Marshal Sam Manekshaw's name after his death..?
Just have always had a dislike 👎🏽 for these “Cashmere “ kind of diplomats. It’s the army men and common people who had died and contributed in the 1971 war. And these guys take the credit
Your mindset belongs to Pakistan. They are where they are exactly because of this type of mindset.
Today bangladesh economy is much bigger than Pakistan, where it's handing out loans to srilanka...
This is a good model for Balochistan !!
So you just want to break up a country to destabilise it. You don't like muslims anyway. Why do you feel so bad for balochistan. Do you even know anything about the region. Thinking like you've arrived somewhere. Pyjama chap.
@@Shaggy-839two Pakistan is the master at destabilizing itself 😆 all India needs to do is fan the flames where there is some justification.
@@aps4561 - you people or always fanning flames wherever you go. It's your pedashi khesiat.
Insightful
thanks i really enjyed this
Jyoti, can you bag an interview with Kissinger, especially now that he is in the mood for talking up his ping pong diplomacy. He's not going to be around for much longer.
Nice educative video
Where lies any hope of India getting back POK ? Zilch in my view. Indira ought to have built consensus and leveraged the war to convert the Line of Control into an international border. How much money and bloodshed could have been avoided in the 50 years since … and counting …. had that been done. She missed an opportunity as did her father with China as a quid pro quo to our stepping back in Tibet. But at least she won the war unlike Nehru who led the country to an ignominious defeat.
Totally... Giving away POWs JLT in the name of goodwill was actually stoopid. India post independence has number of such stoopid examples where we could have wrecked havoc on our enemies BUT we chose not to!.... In fact there was no need for a Bangladesh, coz today you got radicals there who actually side with Pak and call them brothers while simultaneously rubbishing India... Plus the fact that there were sooo many refugees who never left and have now become a source of confrontation from locals in northeast... Bengal was partioned by Brits... We had a chance to unite it forever BUT we chose not to!...
Statements about shimla convention, 1972 were intresting and complete.
Because its weekness India wants the US to confront China on behalf of INdia
The interviewer must stop interrupting the interviewee and be more patient…wait until the statement is completed … she keeps completing his sentences which is extremely annoying
History is important
Typical bureaucrat/diplomat undermining a soldier. Clipped accent cannot hide the bias. Persons like him can sit in AC rooms and literally not to have his boots on the ground.
Not every one can go to a war zone. You get killed if you enter a war zone just like that... RSS knows better than any one else. They are the ones who told they can occupy Pakistan in a day, so why aren't they doing it?
One should raed the book 'Blood Telegram' to realise how much Nixon and Kissinger hated India. These two Americans are largelly responsible for the rise of China today and the decline of America. In their desire to limit Soviet's power, they backed China, and now you see the result. Hope the Americans and the whole world will realise that Kissinger is not that great diplomat or foreign policy analyst. One should also read tne Kissnger's convesations with Mao when he repeatedly ridiculed India and Nehru.
Yes the Jewish lobby is deeply linked to China. But be assured India now has a military edge over China.
Hope all the RW Spokesperson Read this Book.
Sir, if you were in Rome how could you know about the details of those meeting
More of Shekhar Gupta
Young children almost always use unparlimentary language
RECOMMENDED reading 📖 for PAKISTANIS 👍
? u from there west pak?
This is reading?
@@effervescentevanescenttran6331 Those bumpkins in Pakland can read??? And I'm not even going to talk about thinking for themselves!!
''Pindi - Peking - Pentagon'' entente or nexus as we Bengalis popularly called then.
How can we reunited again???
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Jab tak iska solution nii milta tab tak ni ho sakte united..Ye debate me sare jawaab hain
They - Bangladesh is doing very well - and have no reason to want to reunite with a loser country like Pakistan. So they do not want re-unification. In fact many provinces like Sind, Baluchistan & KP want liberation from the Punjabi hegemony in PK. And that may be the way it is all heading.
@@ShyamKumar-zb2mw Together we can do more. But it is true that one-day Indian subcontinent shall be required again.
@@skscorporation9534 - if you are implying that Pakistanis are regretting the partition - then you are probably right. I would too if I were a Pakistani - seeing how IN is progressing and how badly they themselves are doing. However - it is too late to put humpty-dumpty back again - and in my mind - I consider PK going away as good riddance. No regrets, No comebacks and No mercy.
Background is distracting. Good information though.
Curb your enthusiasm lady, let the guy speak
Is it really to discuss the strategies indian government adopted during those days? What message do we plan to share with international media? I find a hidden agenda behind. Tread carefully the print!!
The fact that this polished English speaker/former Ambassador to China is more interested in spending time in writing a book on creation of Bangladesh makes me question as to what exactly was he doing in China as an ambassador when Chinese were going full throttle on economic front? Was he there just for sight seeing and enjoying himself? I put him and Shashi Tharoor in same category- polished and fluent english, can win some debates but when it comes to thinking and ACTING strategically find someone else. Unfortunately english fluency is highly valued in Upper echelons of Indian bureaucracy than economic(and other Critical) problem solving abilities. These people are always worried about what others(countries) will think and never take bold action. These are high salaried Babu Sahibs and Status quo keeps their jobs secure. I would rather be interested in Foreign ambassadors who are relentless and voracious economic opportunity hunters in the countries they are privileged to be posted in and thus constantly increasing market share for Indian businesses. Enough of this nostalgia of old wars etc. Are you ready and focused on fighting real (economic) war happening right now or will you bury your head in sand and keep imagining the 'good old days'/war wins/comparisons with Pakistan etc?
Now chinawill take care of Assam,Butan and Ladak
What an impressive man. However Ms. Malhotra never fails to expose her immaturity and deep anti Pakistan bias.
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Just curious, do you think Modi watches these videos?
Lmao no way
He is busy, only sleeps for 4 hours remember
He doesn't speak English, so it seems unlikely.
He himself doesn't watch such videos but his team might.🤷🏼♂️
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