MAPPA'S INSANE RUMBLING FIXED IN MOTION | Attack on Titan Final Season Part 2 Ep 87 TV vs BLU-RAY
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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 18 ส.ค. 2022
- So, I finally got the Attack on Tita Final Season Part 2 Blu-ray Volume 4 delivered by Amazon prime today. But are the animation changes any good? Here is Attack on Titan The Final Season Part 2 Episode 87 TV vs BLU-RAY.
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Mappa's Aot Blu-ray changes r almost always hit or miss...You either go, "That is so much better," or. "That is way worse." I pretty much had these 2 reactions to every single change made in this episode too. At the end of the day, this ep absolutely slapped in the Tv version anyway, so I am happy with it, Blu ray changes or not.
What I wanted to say, exactly
Yeah, Blu-Ray really is always Hit or Miss
No
@Vulcan well you do have right
@Vulcan wtf are you talking about?
When i buy something for the right price and it doesn't met my expectations then sure i do have rights to complain.
wtf is with the bird in the TV version at 0:20 how did I never notice that 😂
Yea same. I was very suprised to see that in the TV.
Thought it was done on purpose for the bird to go to the ships, but nope, it's bugged as hell.
it's a static image over the scene- how does that even go unnoticed by the animators? glad I didn't notice it the first time I watched
Bro lagged in mid air
4:55 they also fixed the titan's foot shadow randomly disappearing.
The shadow just went sike
2:15 NOOOOOOOOOO
This was one of my favorite shots of the entire season.
And they completely butchered the aesthetic of pure awe it evoked.
ikr
The steam flashes are much more dramatic and awing compared to those fx explosions
Dw we still have the TV version...
I feel you, it is one of my favorite shot of the season too. Im rewatching the change, the comparison and i think the bd version is not that bad. Surely, it is totally 2 opposite shots but they both give this destruction/terror/desperation vibe. But I understand you well
Yeah. Me too I find it was an epic shot. In real life, effect of many explosion looks like that
The change definitely looks significantly worse
Im gonna guess either they changed it to be more in line with the other explosions of the series, or to avoid epilepsy complaints, or both
1:55
this change is terrible. The original version demonstrates the gigantic threat and how fast it moves, but that is lost on the blu ray.
i think the smoke in the TV lacks detail and frames. i think the smoke looks far better in the Bluray
Blu-ray is better. The TV version glitches for some reason
@@bennogb5069 I don't dispute the quality, in that the bluray wins. However, what you want to interpret is much better achieved in the TV version
@@patricio2117 Just like when Mikasa slashes those two soldiers, the BD might be uncensored, but the TV is by far better.
@@bennogb5069 there’s barley a difference in detail with the smoke cloud lol. They could’ve just darkened the smoke rather than removing every single frame of it.
2:26 had more of an "Awe" effect with the ships lighting up inside the steam in the TV version.
I always felt that the explosions of the ships in the TV version were too big inside the steam, I wouldn’t imagine explosions being that big and bright for ships that were so small in comparison to the steam.
Yeah no the TV clears in that shot the new explosions look so fake
@@Darkex72 Light reflects and refracts inside of gasses such as steam so it makes sense. It's like saying a lamp post during the night vs during the night + fog, it spreads it out more (or so it seems since light reflects off the water particles and gets shot into our eyes from more angles)
@@Fuphu Yeah I figured that would be the case, but we see the ships get thrown away by the steam so it wouldn’t make sense for them to explode inside the steam when they were knocked towards Marley. So I still prefer the Blu-ray version.
@@CraftyCarrot I agree, the flashes look really out of place and fake, it seems they just added a little overlay over the river and called it a day. The blu ray looks so much better with the detailed explosions
It sucks because almost all of these changes are pretty great except for 2:15 which is just completely disappointing to me as it was one of my favorite shots in the original.
I agree it was way scarier not being able to see what was happening, but knowing inside all the smoke everyone was getting destroyed! Plus there is no way all the steam/smoke would have disappeared to even see all those explosions like in the blue-ray. Disappointing change.
The size of the explosions and lights in the TV version make no sense whatsoever. The explosions would be absolutely gigantic, like 10 times the size of the actual ships. The bluray is better because it actually makes more sense, even if it doesn't look as flashy or "nice".
@@danielmacdonald9287 I'll take flashy and cool over "makes sense" its an anime about gigantic titans. Nothing in the show is realistic.
@@jakeryan2805 it is more realistic than most anime, the addition of some fictional creatures don't change that
@@danielmacdonald9287 I highly doubt anyone was watching that scene and intensely analyzing the realism of the ships exploding when it just looked really nice
4:20 I feel like us getting small glimpses of the final titan in the TV version instead of a full reveal like in the blue-ray wasabi better since it gave more anticipation and a better idea on how big the titan really is that you can't even see it all
exactly, you get the right idea
@@DamageMaximo did he ever Rumbling him kill destroyed Walls.. Eren Jasper pot of child 5:43
The dawn of humanity????
(: It’s the Rumbling 5:40
I agree, seeing just the shadow of his ribs was menacing, revealing the whole look of the titan in that shot kinda takes away from it,
@@Dynamicpea Ikr
this man just said wasabi
Honestly confused with some of the changes in this one, seems like they added more detail to a lot of shots but unfortunately removed some of the dramatic and intense flare with some scenes...
It's the opposite lol
@@ecchi7185 nope
@@arneshpal7702 Yes, it is
God damn, they add more particles simulations. Make me think that’s look like Meme
@@ecchi7185 nop x 2
0:23 In Blu-Ray they fixed the Bird flying to the Sunset!
It bothered me so Much!
The close up of erens doomsday titan in the blu-ray is sort of swaying side to side very faintly and if you pay close attention to his face and head, you’ll notice slight movement. Just thought I’d point that out since I haven’t seen anyone point it out yet
So glad they changed that static frame bird in the beginning, it looked awful lmao.
For real. That bird was such a nuisance every time I saw it XD
Also the missing eyes on some of the colossus titans. Glad they fixed that as well.
4:21 I am pretty divided about this change. I like how Eren face's is covered in steam because they wanted to build up to the moment when his face is revealed, it has a mystery and awe effect on the viewer. But in other hand this change is more epic, but we lost a little of the surprise of the Eren Founding Titan face reveal, because we already saw it in this moment. In the end, i think both is good.
Imo I prefer the blu ray change because it’s more accurate to what it looks like when I read it in the manga when it first dropped, and was blown away at seeing the horror of this gargantuan overbearing shadow of the Founding Titan that orchestrates the Rumbling. But that’s just how I look at it at least, your opinion also does raise a very good point
some noticable fix i found
1:55 tv ver smoke has animation error.when the smoke hit the ship
2:53 if u look closely. in tv ver some of wall titan eye are blank/white.fixed in bd
4:03 before this scene. theres soldier fall in the ground but missing suddenly in the next frame.also fixed in bd
4:55 Finally they fixed the shadow error in tv
i really love how the ships firing at the titans has the camera perma shaking. it really shows the impact of the battle and the cannon's weight
yeah, they nailed the weight and impact of a 12 inch cannon, dont like the ships exploding though
I suspect that 2:15 might have been an epilepsy thing, but i agree that it looks worse.
The flashes of light during the explosion of the ships in the TV version always came off to me as explosions hidden by the steam, since by the time that the ships had fallen, the clouds of steam had already enveloped and gone past the line. Not only that, they looked like clouds being lit by thunder, which was a really cool effect. I do like the new explosion effects, which probably better shows the fireballs created by the ships' fuel, but they should've been more hidden behind the steam, and the flashes of light in the clouds should've remained present, since they more in line with the quick explosions from ammunition detonating, which the ships had lots of.
Imo, the mindset for these changes feels too focused on “how it would actually look”, which like, I get it, but it *really* makes some shots less impactful. The lights flashing in the smoke is now just normal explosions, that’s the main example. Like, inaccurate to physics or not, that is *undeniably* more terrifying to look at in the original TV release
@@pepsibIue just cus the anime is about some imaginary giants doesnt mean ur gonna show the effect of weapons based on real life as some fucking fire crackers bro 💀. If ur gonna use that as a an arguement the animators could legit just change the entire design of erens titan cus its imaginary no?
@@hystic2728 no, that would be stupid
@@joenoodle6914 ofc itd be stupid. Id rather stick with any other realistic elements in the anime keeping aside the whole titan thing
@@hystic2728 then why did you bring up the titan thing if you knew it was stupid?
@@joenoodle6914 to give an example to justify what i said.
The best change was that fricking bird just freezing up and follow the rest of the shot tbh lmao.
Is there any site where I can download Blu ray quality of anime ?
dude milking the bluray content for all its worth. we're 24 videos in now.
And that is somehow bad?
@@MidaGames_ yes
@@emmslite6246 this is a reason why I subscribe
@@kenmaru777 and the point of his channel is reviewing tv shows/movies. this is not related. clearly milking the bluray changes just for views.
@@emmslite6246 hes giving us the content we asked for.
eren's last view of his mother getting eating, why is there this terrible panning and vertigo effect? like i would say it was damn perfect before.
nope the change is better, the original one was literally just colored manga panel
@@randomannoyance Yes, and that was better
The extra blurring was fine but the panning looked like some Indian TV show editing
@@randomannoyance sometimes less is better. Also, Isayama's art was great and stylish during this time not like WiT which had to completely change the designs.
it is not his memory and there was additional emphasis on that
Nooooooo why did they blur kid Erens face when watching his mother dying 😭 His face in the TV version was so much better, it was literally identical to the Manga.
all the smoke from the ships might make the shots look a little bit more ugly but from a narrative perspective it is a good change since it emphasizes the whole "humanity is throwing EVERYTHING they have against the Titans" enough to literally darken the sky
the Michael Bay explosions were the only real miss for the, in the original it seems more mysterious that you don't even know if they are hitting something or really WHAT are they really aiming at
the more clear reveal or Eren might be more on the nose but it also helps that they made him even bigger
and for the alterations on baby eren and Carla's death, again it might look less clear now but I guess the point is to show that this is has been playing on Eren's mind on a loop so it is like he is constantly extremely pissed off and focused on his goal that he literally has tunnel vision and everything else is becoming a blur, so much that he can't even focus on the memory of her mother past his rage
4:05 I only think the TV version looks a bit more Ominous and Menacing. With the sense of Impending doom, bcs of the Shadow. VS Eren's head showing at the Blue Ray version just not striking me as scary. But other then that, they did a great job honestly!
The ships firework show in the TV version was way better than the normal explosion blu ray tbh
The colossal Titan swimming is one of the most terrifying things I've ever seen
We're gonna need a fan-edit which combines all the enhancements the Blue-ray version makes, but scraps all the downgrades and keeps the TV scenes. Gotta create that perfect experience.
I'm just sad they didn't remove the black screen between seeing Hannes carrying Eren away and the pull away from the Founding Titan's eye. It really should have held on Eren's eye with a smash-cut to the Founding without the black screen.
5:40 town is darker, but sky is brighter, makes sense.
man, the blu ray looks prettier in some of the scenes, especially with the lighting, but at the same time i feel like its adding too....much. like i could easily look at and see everything fine before and now with the added smoke and water effects some of the details look so flashy its hard for me to see everything clearly
If only they combined the steam flashes on the ships with the explosions, it would be so much dramatic
4:21-4:26 I like this change a lot. The added detail and slightly darkened atmosphere kinda gives me horror vibes. It highlights how menacing and creepy Eren’s Titan is along with his army of Wall Titans coming to kill everyone indiscriminately.
The front part just looks like was cropped and pasted on from those 3d renders of rumbling. I love the detail of the city but the ribcage looks and Hands looks weird af.
I think the rumble was very good, I would have liked more contrast in the yellow and blue colors of the sky and that the vapor was not so gray, but in general it was good, it looks more epic, thanks for bringing it.
Great review 👍
That lagging bird at the start was pure frustration for me. Thank god
If I lose it all slip and fall I will never look away!🎶
Technically speaking, the ships shouldn't be emmitting smoke at all. This only indicates that the ships are moving or at full throttle, when in fact, they are stationary.
Thx man👍
i like the blu-ray of eren founding titan reveal where we can see the front part, it fits the manga version too unlike the tv version where we mostly see the ribcage
I feel a bit iffy about some changes. The huge wall of steam approaching in the TV version looked more epic (even if it didn't make much sense), the exploding ships hidden in the steam at the horizon also looked cooler in my opinion and lastly the still shots of Eren as a kid looked better in the TV version without the blur and the camera panning. Every other change is an improvement I would say.
Strange how out of 10 changes as an example, Mappa would improve like 7 while 3 or so get worse.
3:30 blocking commander titan’s face in this scene was unforgivable
2:15 this change is just not it, i highly support mappas work but this change is one of the worst, the lightning in the smoke makes it feel way more terrifying and dramatic and they just ruined it with some explosions
Bruh the lighting is not supposed to be there as the smoke is being created instantly at the time, smoke is not rainbow bro
@@ecchi7185 what are you saying.. when did i say rainbow..
@@justice999 You said, "the lighting in the smoke". The lighting is not supposed to be like that in the TV version because the lighting also reflects in the clouds making it rainbow-ish wich is illogical
@@ecchi7185 if you wanna talk about logic explain the paths buddy.. im just saying it looks way better in the tv version and in the end its visuals over anything when it comes to animation, we could care less about some cloud logic 😭
@@justice999 You couldn't care about this, but the animators care. You guys are absurdly dumb and base everything in your personal opinion. BD corrections are about technical fixes not subjective opinions
1:00 I feel like when they decided to change the smoke in this scene, they forgot to remove the old smoke, or make the new smoke blow in the same direction as the old smoke.
The smoke moving that fast on the tv version made no sense. The smoke is not supposed to move in the same speed as the colossals, they are just left behind so it made complete sense to slow them
True, makes more sense but slightly less terrifying unfortunately
Ehh I disagree, the smoke is steam and I can see why extremely hot titans would cause violent steam ejection like you see in the TV version
@@meatisomalley it's a not a matter of agreement or not, its physics. The steam is ejected thus becoming a cloud of heat, it shouldn't move fast like that lol they didn't make that change out of nothing. The steam ejected by the colossals on the surface can only move fast backwards as long as they swim, and that's it.
@@lucasmarques6472
Depends on the speed and nature of the chemical reaction. For example, there are slow acting explosives and fast acting explosives. The reason TNT blows up in a violent explosion while something like gunpowder burns much slower is because the reaction is way faster with TNT.
there is such sheer mass on the titans and they are so extremely hot that as they swim across the ocean, there's a huge and violent reaction in the water. it creates a huge wave of pressure so there is a violent election of steam, almost like a geyser.
Also, unless you're a physics professor and you've done the calculations, there is absolutely disagreement to be had. Gtfoh with that bs.
@@lucasmarques6472 Exactly, these dumb people think staff makes the BD changes out of nothing like they're experts in this regard lol
*The only disappointing thing is **2:15** the ship blast, but I am glad i have the tv version and most people watch only the tv version!*
4:53 they also decreased the amount of green lights coming out of eren's eye revealing more details
They also fixed the bird in the Blu Ray at the start.
2:25 The bluray version looks like some syfy channel effect. I swear I saw that junk on sharktopus vs. whalewolf.
0:24 - That bird just does not de-spawn in the TV version.
How could I get acess to the blue-ray videos？Buging online？Which APP on sale？
did they fix the soldier disapearing when he falls over running away from the rumbling?
The wall Titans glow is a good touch.
Will the bluray changes be added to streaming services or do you have to buy the bluray? I don't know how it works?
If i watch AoT on Crunchyroll, do i watch the TV version or Blu-ray? (The older seasons of course)
Love the changes , they made this cinematic episode even better! I love it!
Is not movie
@@realanimeir3173 lol mappa studios are known for realistic designs not more of cute saturated animation, n that's called cinematic (dark vibes n reality)
It feels as if they got a live action cinematographer to enhance the Blu Ray version. Some of the changes such as the stronger shakes and bigger flashes of military weapons firing feel much stronger and more realistic. But even though it's more realistic, the incoming rolling smoke and distant explosions feel far less intimidating.
And I truly can't get behind the bloom/zoom in effect on Eren watching his mother being eaten. When I saw that scene for the first time it felt so incredibly terrifying and visceral, like I understood exactly what emotions I should've been feeling in such a raw illustration. But the bloom and zoom effect takes that moment and makes it feel like I'm being told that it's a big deal through the camera and blur instead of it just feeling its weight by the art style alone
The Blu-Ray version of Eren showing up at Marley, GOOSEBUMPS!!!!
the explosions on the horizon could have been only seen a little bit and the farther explosions would be the flickering lights in the past animation
That smoke change is such a shame as its fast approaching wall felt perfect. Same with the sky lighting up felt more disconnected an... showed the ungodly strength an speed of the rummbeling
4:33 ES TAN REALISTA QUE DA MIEDO!!
Good thing I've waiting blu ray, just now..I finished watch final part 2. Can't wait for part 3.
well... some of the choices for TV look more scary for the viewers, like the shining shots in the mist seeing from the coast.
03:36 TV Version Literal Wall Titan walking your way
Blu Ray Literal Wall Titan Skull walking toward your Doom.
I like it.
This is the first time I prefer TV over Blu-ray, TV one is so good
Why did they want to remove aspects that promoted scale and intensity? The rising steam wave and the explosions the ships lighting up the sky made people hold their breath
They should have covered the whole thing in smoke effects and called it a day.
And branches, don't forget the branches
Its not that much,and i like it
@UCluM7_phbDZt9nzD6wrWw-w Blue rays are expensive.
I don't like seeing people getting ripped off if this is the final product.
Actually even the TV version was flawed from the foundation. But that's another issue.
@@kocetociparov1089 how are people beeing Ripped off?
@@pcvl9637 Well as you can see people think some changes the blue ray makes are worse or unnecessary.
And moreover they don't add anything significant to the scenes.
And there are still problems that they didn't fix.
Like for that much money I expect a night and day difference.
I can't be the only one who can smell the box through the screen
do oyu have a link to the product, i can't seem to find it on amazon
Here is the link to AOT Blu-ray on amazon. www.amazon.co.jp/-/en/%E6%A2%B6%E8%A3%95%E8%B2%B4/dp/B09VQ8D5X3/ref=sr_1_1?crid=18SI8WBJSI4SA&keywords=%E9%80%B2%E6%92%83%E3%81%AE%E5%B7%A8%E4%BA%BA%E3%80%8DThe+Final+Season+%E7%AC%AC4%E5%B7%BB+Blu-ray&qid=1662316867&s=dvd&sprefix=%E9%80%B2%E6%92%83%E3%81%AE%E5%B7%A8%E4%BA%BA+the+final+season+%E7%AC%AC4%E5%B7%BB+blu-ray%2Cdvd%2C184&sr=1-1
The only bad change was the distant explosions. Everything else was either on par or better. I get that the Blu ray shot of the distant explosions is more grounded now but the tv version was absolutely awesome. A bad change all around.
It's "bad" because people think it's bad not because really is, BD corrections are not a matter of opinion it's a technical matter. It's corrections of how it should be and not changes
this episode was already lit
La versión de crunchyrol? Es la del bluray?
does netflix use the tv ver or the bluray ver?
What about thoses "no eyed colossal titans" when they stand out of water ?
They also filled in the eyes in the blu ray version that they forgot to do in the tv version
The thick black smoke is actually a really nice, realistic touch. Those battleships IRL threw out tons of smoke; in battle, that smoke got even thicker as more fuel was burned and shells were fired. It makes the scene feel a lot more real.
The only change i felt necessary were bubble streak following the titan swimming and eren's head moving.
i think they really went for that whole "lets make it look like it was actually shot with a camera and not like we drew it" because a lot of the changes were lighting?? like yeah the shadows moved bc theyre more realistic now, they made the lighting consistent throughout the shots instead of randomly deciding which direction the sun was going to be hitting objects in different clips LOL
Tbh, I like TV version of Eren's founding titan. I love how it's not fully shown, and the hair swaying in the smoke
Ok the fleet exploding in blue ray was horrible 😂
Finally they added eyes to some titans
can they do a tvu-ray now? combine the good parts from both
Im fine with every change (most of them are a reall addition) except 3.
the Steam wall ...that was in Tv version so much better and
the explosions of the ships....that was also much better in TV version. no one needed that nuke explosions...They could have add 3 or 4 of that explions to Tv version and fine.
and that blurr effect for young eren was also uneccesary. It looked better in TV you could see his horror.
the founding titan scene LOOKS TERRIFYING! 4:33
No
Not really, and that took away the feelings of the audience.
Honestly the fireworks display in the clouds in better to me
Blu-rayテレビで流して欲しい
Amazon Order link please :-)
Mappa love's smoke for some reason 💀
Hmm overall better animation on tv version but better detailing on Blu-ray version… if that makes sense.
If not pretty much I like the flow of the surroundings and the choices that went behind every situation (perception/dimension/on the tv version and I like the little details like (texture/lighting/contrast) on Blu-ray but sometimes that same stuff made it look too animated in a way
Did the bluray come with english sub? The japanese boxset is amazing
No English subtitles. Just raw Japanese audio.
I mean its not like the blu ray verdion deletes the tv version its just adjustments you can select wish one you want to watch
Is the Crunchyroll Version the TV or the BlueRay Version?
Crunchyroll is the TV version.
2:37 lmao just find out, houses are under water in tv😂 someone forgot to add color
These are mostly great additions but like for 5 episodes ??? Im just gonna wait for a complete series blu ray or at least as close to that that we’ll get
Will this version come to crunchyroll?
2:25 The TV version is perfect as it is. Still one of the best scenes in AOT. It gives a more terrifying vibe. One of my favorite shots.
00:18-00:40 - MAPPA fixed the bird, and that's good.
Um by TV do you mean normal DVD, because I've never seen this show on normal TV
TV just means the streaming version. So however you watched it when it first aired.
Yeap . Its decided i have to watch it again
Just comes to show whaat happens when you have more TIME to do something.
The firework rework is sad... much preferred the TV
Since its snk can we assume the blueray is just another timeline
There are few changes that I feel really random xD