Vintage Tyco Chessie System C430 Locomotive Restoration
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- I was sent this Tyco Chessie System C430 as a gift from David z to g Scale and today I finally got around to trying to repair it. This model had some usual issues as some of them were factory defects still causing issues roughy 30 to 40 years after it was made. I did my best to try and correct all the problems and I'm pretty happy with the results. Enjoy!
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And....we've got a runner!!! Harrison - you are getting REALLY GOOD at refurbishing older locos!
Very nice job getting Chessie running, Harrison! As Wilmer would say "Not Bad" for a fin. Those who don't know what a fin is, may have to look that up or check the bottom of locomotive in the video. That is one of the nicer paint schemes Tyco put out there.
Thanks for sharing. 👍 👍 👍
Another Tyco saved ! Great job Harrison!
I owned several tyco train sets when i was a kid. I am originally from Mantua NJ Home of Mantua Tyco. My grandfathers friend worked there so I got new train sets each year for Christmas including the bicentennial editions. They were sold when we moved away but I've been able to replace them as an adult through ebay ect... Your repair videos have taught me so much,how to repair and maintain them. Great job on your videos. They are a great resource for people like me getting back into model training.
I got my second/first Bachmann Union Pacific 0-6-0 train set today! I am so happy to get back into the wonderful hobby!
You always do a great job on these old locomotives. When you do work on old Rivarossi and Tyco locomotives it takes me back to my younger days in the 60's and 70' s. Keep up the good work SMT. Regards from Europe.
I have this Tyco Chessie locomotive and its matching dummy. Its been sitting in the attic for the last 40 years, as it stopped working when I was in my mid-teens and I didn't have an interest in trying to get it working.
You've inspired me to pull it down and get it going.
“Pancake motor”
Now I want pancakes. With some syrup, eh?
Yeah, gotta get the moose out and aboot the town to get to the Zellers skillet (located in an igloo) restaurant and have a couple molsons and pancakes with maple syrup, eh?
Holy crap I just watched this video in the morning same
Would that be Vermont maple syrup????
I picked up a cordless dremel for $1 at yard sale 2 yrs ago. I took battery pk apart. And replaced batteries with some rechargeable energizers 🔋. Works great. You should invest in 1 like mine the sanding tips and other die grinder pieces would make quick work with the poor craftsman ship and flashings problems. Best investment for my trains and nitro rc trucks and buggy.
Very cool that you can get these old Tyco locomotives running again. Most locomotives from back in the day, had these coreless truck mounted inverted "pancake" motors, with the "butterfly" commutators. I've seen them in Life Like, Bachmann, Tyco, and even some AHM, among others. You would usually find these in "starter" train sets that were produced very cheaply, if something went wrong with the loco, you'd usually end up just "tossing it" . It's extremely difficult, if not impossible to find replacement parts, let alone a parts source to maintain these. Usually what I did, if I had these, I'd "dummy" these. I would disable the motor electrically, remove a few of the gears and have a power + "dummy" lash up. These locomotives usually couldn't pull no more than probably six or seven or eight cars if you were lucky. In the years since model train manufacturers, have introduced locomotives with all wheel electrical pickup, all wheel drive, and flywheel equipped "five pole" motors, I've been collecting those. There so much easer to operate, smoother running, and easier to maintain. And because there fly wheel equipped, they won't stall that much like those older ones will. What you probably could do, is get say a 1000uf 16v capacitor and connect it across the motor terminals. This will "behave" like a fly wheel. It's a good thing that you lubricate the axle bearings because one side of the axle has plastic wheels. Plastic spinning against plastic or rubbing against plastic creates a "static" electrical charge. This can cause dust from the air as well as dead skin cells, to collect on the plastic wheels. This "nonconductive crud" ends up getting deposited on the rails as a result of this. Also, if your doing any soldering with rosin core solder, just make sure that you have cross ventilation. The fumes from these acid flux type solders is harmful.
How many of us into model trains today got our start with Tyco? I'd say among us older ones quite a few! My first HO train set had a prepancake F9 and dummy in UP. I think I've still got the shell somewhere. While most of what I've got now is Athearn, Proto, Atlas, and others I still enjoy looking for those old Tycos to repower. Just a month ago I took a C430 repainted it in L&N and repowered it with an Athearn drive. I really enjoy your videos!
Man that's what I like to do is repower locos like the tycos!
Just watched your video on the same loco that I bought stateside for $9.99, and successfully repaired having been stored for best part of 50}+ yrs. Now running ok, main problem was dirty axles and the cleaning out of the gears as per your video. I purchased a vintage 2nd one from states a couple of weeks ago this is now running smoothly as well after cleaning wheels,gears,bearings.
I’ve been waiting so long to see this thing restored. It’s a nice looking locomotive and it looks even better with the Chessie System paint.
Nice job getting that Consolidated Foods era TYCO going. It was not a good era for the brand as manufacturing moved from New Jersey to Hong Kong. I had a few of these as a kid. I remember the day I got my first Athearn and marvelled that it could pull every car I had at the same time and could go slow and climb a small grade. The TYCO engines I had even at their best could not manage such a feat, but they were a toy train after all. :-)
Another awesome video Harrison and awesome restoration and have an awesome day
Nice repair job! It's fun trying to get the old Tyco engines going again! I had a few hopeless tyco motors that I ended up replacing with the older Mantua worm driven motors.
Its always these tyco engines that are instresting on the channel, you have kinda helped me as well.
Nothing like a SMT video at 9:00 at night
Great video, I inherited a couple tycos, they run but now I can keep them going longer - thanks.
so that loco probably has never done a lap on a layout, till now. that is crazy
a small piece of flashing, trim, lube and running
That was a cool video, brings back a lot of memories xD especially the "oof" moment where you had to re-solder the wires, but looks and sounds like a reliable workhorse locomotive now, ready to roll better then before!
Nice restoration of a classic Tyco locomotive. Great tip on the flashing sticking out from the gear. That may explain the issues I’m having with one of my Power Torque motors. Always learn something new watching your videos. 👍
Not bad, Harrison. It runs like a new one.
Nice to see you got another one running SMT!
I have always loved the restoration videos
Ive always wanted one of these. Very nice locomotive and nice video!
I love any chessie locomotive i had a life like gp 38 as a kid and im sad to say i destroyed it 😬 but ill have another some day soon 😃👍 nice job!
Nice restoration!
Very nice restoration SMT now wat I suggest you should do is get a smaller soldering iron because that big one you have is for big stuff that's hard to yous for train including HO.
Great work as always. Nice looking loco.
You did a great job repairing that locomotive i always find the chessie system paint job very attractive
Thanks, I really enjoyed repairing this one. I tend to agree, the chessie system paint scheme looks nice.
Nice repair job and good research finding the piece of plastic on the gear. I don't know why people object to those Tycos. I have about 10 of them and they are the easiest to repair and the most dependable.
Yeah ! Another Tyco video
I have one of does MRC tach an i got say its one best power pack i ever own
Your a wizard Harrison
🤣Harrison Potter now, is it?
Beautiful engine
Nice job
Have few of them c430. Illinois, CN, silver streaks and rock island. The pan motor in the seems to run pretty good. Have tried hauling major loads. But they work well. Would love to have that chessie. Even BNSF would be nice. Might have to make 1 using 1 of my silver streaks. I have 5.
Very awesome video!
I thought those had the motor with the worm gears on each end. When did they change to the pancake motor?
I don't like the drive unit on these. I kitbashed the C430 shell on the chassis of an Athearn SD9. Length and truck arrangement is spot on. Had to use the long shank KDs and the narrow Athearn motor.
Best way to remove flashing is take sandpaper to it not a box cutter.
Very cool👍👍
When removing flashing, depending on how much left from factory. If careful i like to use a little heat. Safer than using a razor. Speaking from a man who has scars galore on his hands. Plenty of cars trucks quads boat motors anything that takes gasoline or diesel. 2cly or 4. Doesn't matter to me.
Using this to try and fix a Tyco Rock Island C430 with the same road number.
!!! Great !!! I’m a tyco generation.
Harrison...for deburring things like the flash on that motor gears, have you considered getting a Dremel Moto-Tool? It would be a lot faster - and safer - than using that generic cutting knife.
While I watch this I’m holding my HO scale Chessie system box car
U inspired me to work on a 13 year old bachmann GP50 as a ns loco. I had 2 disconnected wires and had about 10 pounds if dust lol. I will have to fix it up, but will rubbing alcohol mess with plastic?
Rubbing alcohol shouldn't cause any issues with the plastic, I've been using it for years and haven't had an issue.
Good job fixing it. IMO Tyco power torque did a huge disservice to model railroading as a whole. Their entry level locos were of such poor quality and abysmal performance that they helped to turn off many young railroaders from the hobby.
Wow that would be so fun to run on my layout. Sadly I can’t find any N scale C430s
As you might know, real C430s were not exactly thick on the ground, either - there were only sixteen of them.
First and smt I got the n scale
I unfortunately retired my atsf one today due to mechanical issues and it’s just cheaper too get a new locomotive
conrail modeler67890 ......can’t remember where I seen it. Maybe on a forum and quick google search may show but I seen where a guy used a motor from PS3 controller to repower a Tyco (if I remember correctly). If I find it I’ll report back
Here is the video about using a motor from a PS3 controller to replace the Tyco motor. th-cam.com/video/dQoR-aznbTE/w-d-xo.html
Alco Power mine is a atlas kato with a lot of moving parts and it cheaper just to get another locomotive
I do also own a tyco one
conrail modeler67890 .......sorry I thought you had a Tyco in need of a re-power. Nevertheless it’s a cool video with some outside the box thinking that you might find interesting. Thanks for the sub.
I have the same one but it's a high hood one
SMT - Did you clean the commutator plates, or does the Conductive Lubricant clean the commutator plates & brushes? Nerf Cat is SMT's Chessie!
Why can I see SMT custom painting a engine to say Nerf Cat Lines and have a Canadian flag on the side.
Hey...if Harrison wants it, I can custom design and print the decals. I do it for my own railroads (Quail Valley Railroad & Senova Beach and Inland Railroad), and it's not that difficult with a color laser printer.
Was this the one that came in a lot with the chug chug car if it is been a long time since the last time I saw it
Sure is, It's been waiting on the resto shelf for a while now.
Mine almost had the identical problem and I followed your video but well I lost one of the springs is their anything I can do? Thanks
SMT was that a 5 or 3 pole motor on the loco?
It's a 3 pole, I don't know if 5 pole pancake motors even exist.
My name is Dennis Friesland from Hickory North Carolina I like your program but you need to make new programs up-to-date and I really appreciate it if you would good job you know how to work on each and one of those locomotives and make them run again let me know
What do you think the most reliable?
Plus when are u gonna build that steam locomotive kit
Probably within the next few months. I really want to build it but it's something that must be done carefully otherwise it won't run properly.
No thanks to complacated for get that!
Hi I commented
I have this but it’s a rock island road name
And it doesn’t work