1st Ride on the New Gen 3 2024 CFMOTO CFORCE | Is it actually better?

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  • First Ride and Review of the newly released Gen3 CFMOTO CFORCE 800 Touring ATV. We are at ERX Motorpark and we are getting to test out a pre production CFORCE and let you see it in action out on the trails. We will compare it to the previous gen 2 CFMOTO CFORCE 800 XC.
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  • @Mike_MaLissa
    @Mike_MaLissa 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +15

    CFMOTO really up their game with the weight reduction, increased HP, Larger display with all new features. I really like the design of handle bars too. Awesome video as always Blake.

    • @RealTalkPowersports
      @RealTalkPowersports  3 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      Absolutely bro and thank you

    • @JayNayMay
      @JayNayMay 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Yall are sell outs to your country buying China. Be different if it was Japanese

  • @09rg
    @09rg 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +8

    And I just bought a 2023, 800cx but I’m very happy with it. Thanks for the content. Good job guys.

  • @zytekfan
    @zytekfan หลายเดือนก่อน

    Love that they finally moved the brake handle to the left side. Same as the Polaris and Can Ams I've always ridden.

  • @jasonmiller9495
    @jasonmiller9495 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +6

    Went riding with my buddy last night. He has a Brute Force 750 . He looked at the CF Moto 800 and said man I’m going to smoke you once we get back on the trails . I let him lead because I didn’t know the area and he does needless to say the only thing smoked were a couple of cigarettes. I was on his ass the whole ride. When we stopped he said man I can’t believe that thing is just as quick as the Brute. Love my 800 it’s awesome and we did some wide open riding last night some crazy terrain the machine ate everything I threw at it

    • @sknails2723
      @sknails2723 หลายเดือนก่อน

      garbage

    • @perrodukegordo
      @perrodukegordo 24 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

      ​@@sknails2723now say it without crying 😢😂

  • @andrademeza
    @andrademeza 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    thx for the video, my local dealer sells cfmoto, ill have to check them out tomorrow morning during my ride.

  • @justingonzalez9854
    @justingonzalez9854 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Some riding video of the gen3s!! 🏁🏁🇺🇲 Thanks and cheers from Michigan

  • @DM-tf6mk
    @DM-tf6mk 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Great video! I have a 500 I bought for my son last year and love it. I was looking to get one now for myself, but Im really think I'm going to wait until these come out!

    • @RealTalkPowersports
      @RealTalkPowersports  3 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      That would be an awesome combo to have!!

  • @forthemud
    @forthemud 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    I've never owned a Cfmoto, but they seem like awesome machines. Love that they are finally putting the brake on the left. That's what I was always used to from owning a Can Am. Hoping to get on one of the new 800 or 1000 touring models in the near future! Thanks for the videos!!

    • @WildBoys69420
      @WildBoys69420 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

      it also on my 2023 cforce 600 controls only the front brakes pedal on foot well does both they do amazing burnouts haha

    • @Serander
      @Serander หลายเดือนก่อน

      I think a death can-am is still much better than a brand new cfmoto .. you guys are luckier than us living in usa. In turkey we can’t even find a good mechanicer or a dealer or a service .. we have to wait more than a month even for small parts .. i have a chance to get my parts from usa and europe via my friends but not everyone has the same chance like me ..

  • @jonnantau9354
    @jonnantau9354 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

    Looks and sounds like a really nice machine. Looks like a fun place to ride also

  • @rgoldsmith286
    @rgoldsmith286 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    These new machines look awesome!

  • @robertpluszczynski4383
    @robertpluszczynski4383 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

    Love these machines

    • @RealTalkPowersports
      @RealTalkPowersports  3 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Yes sir! They awesome

    • @michalfillo9961
      @michalfillo9961 หลายเดือนก่อน

      They cooperate with KTM brand, i love cf moto.

  • @willhutton1516
    @willhutton1516 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Have you guys thought about using ND filters and media mods with your footage? Granted, I had to modify mine to fit both at the same time, but it wasn’t difficult. If you do decide to do so, try out using 2 individual microphones connected by a L/R splitter into the media mod. Then put the mics with some wind socks/tufts somewhere where there’s really good engine noise or exhaust test vids. I used the Olympus ME-15 microphones. Good sensitivity with no electronics to interfere.

  • @dylanburcham6835
    @dylanburcham6835 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

    Love the new CFORCE!!

    • @RealTalkPowersports
      @RealTalkPowersports  3 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Good ripping sir

    • @joelcrane4957
      @joelcrane4957 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

      dylan cant drive@@RealTalkPowersports

  • @tomiwa4795
    @tomiwa4795 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Awesome video

  • @howarddavis8748
    @howarddavis8748 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    On another note for these quads you're selling around $10,000 is a game changer in value. For my sportsman 1000S I got a hell of a deal at 13,000 buying last year's model with 200 miles but I would never in the world pay $17, 999 for a quad.. that's mentally insane to do so! And see if Moto has a badass intelligent screen that the Polaris or Can-Am does not have...😢

  • @ljconole7470
    @ljconole7470 22 วันที่ผ่านมา

    Always been a Polaris guy but for the money this is tempting, very tempting.

  • @johnathenbates9701
    @johnathenbates9701 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    Looks nice!

  • @joelcrane4957
    @joelcrane4957 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

    we ready for them

  • @braydenlowe2024
    @braydenlowe2024 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Very Nice Unit!

  • @braydenlowe2024
    @braydenlowe2024 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    It sounds good!

  • @johnolski8253
    @johnolski8253 หลายเดือนก่อน

    I just put a down payment on the first 800 Touring model that comes in to my dealer. This thing rocks, and I can't wait until it comes in!

  • @domenicleimbach7175
    @domenicleimbach7175 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

    The new 1000 is a beauty. I’m praying for a release of it in Germany. Unfortunately I can’t find anything about a possible release of them for the European market.
    Enjoy those beautiful machines.
    Greets from Germany

    • @RealTalkPowersports
      @RealTalkPowersports  3 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Thank you so much. and yes hopefully it does release for you

    • @st0rm0125
      @st0rm0125 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      It's coming to Croatia, my dealer told me. So if it's coming here, it must be coming to Germany as well!

    • @domenicleimbach7175
      @domenicleimbach7175 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@st0rm0125 thx for the heads up. Bringing some hope.

    • @mantasramanauskas8468
      @mantasramanauskas8468 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

      ​@@st0rm0125Hi. Could you share dealers contacts please? Would be intresting to know price wise and all accesories with them. Thanks

  • @markgerega6507
    @markgerega6507 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

    I have a 2022 Polaris 570 premium. i like it I wish they would do something with the shifter.

  • @charleshorwitz7214
    @charleshorwitz7214 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

    One more thing please. Seems like the difference between 1000 and 800 aside from power is the adjustable shocks/suspension. Anything else different?

  • @Gerry-K
    @Gerry-K 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Are the 600 & 500's getting updates? That's what I'm looking to purchase in the spring.

  • @charleshorwitz7214
    @charleshorwitz7214 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +5

    did you notice the power difference between Gen 2 and 3? Sorry I keep asking but, any issues with heat or has the new exhaust configuration solved that? Great video as always. I appreciate that you do these

    • @RealTalkPowersports
      @RealTalkPowersports  3 หลายเดือนก่อน +5

      The exhaust heat does seem a lot better... as far as the power difference, I could tell that the clutching and tune on the pre production model was way off from where it needs to be.. so I felt the potential but it wasn't dialed in for this test ride. Got to get our hands on the production models now to really test and see

    • @charleshorwitz7214
      @charleshorwitz7214 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Ok, tough question... would you consider a 24 Overland with the big discount their offering today over waiting for the gen 3 to come out? The Overland is proven...
      @@RealTalkPowersports

  • @alexmaclean1
    @alexmaclean1 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    I called my dealer and put deposits on 2 of the new 1000 version after your video the other day. He currently doesn't have a eta but thinks I should have them by summer.
    I'll wait a year to sort tuning out and I'll be sending you the computers lol

    • @RealTalkPowersports
      @RealTalkPowersports  3 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      Oh yes we will start dialing them in and testing as soon as we get ours

    • @crfamily6946
      @crfamily6946 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

      I didn’t know you could make deposits on it before the dealer even has it, can you do that at most any dealer?

    • @alexmaclean1
      @alexmaclean1 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@crfamily6946 at least around here it's pretty common. For example I put down a $500 deposit on each machine I want, it varys but the deal we had was a simple form that I'm first on the list when one comes in, and if in 180 days they don't have it, I can either take my deposit back or just keep waiting.
      Deposits are good business in this area, it let's them know how many the area has demand for and helps insure against non serious buyers who might order a 12k machine abs leave your shop stuck with it.

  • @piquat1
    @piquat1 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

    I have a gen 2. I see they even moved the shifter to the other side. Wondering what all they changed.

  • @johnhamilton9098
    @johnhamilton9098 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Need that new motor in an updated uforce1000!

  • @user-or1uu7yt9n
    @user-or1uu7yt9n 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

    When I see you ripping through the woods which I thought this is what these were meant for and working of course the question that I really have to ask is Why would you need bluetooth and apple car play and not make it an option ?

  • @jasonmiller9495
    @jasonmiller9495 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Is there a big difference in power between gen 2 and Gen 3? On paper they say there is but are you able to feel the difference in speed or power

  • @user-tt6nl4xf5l
    @user-tt6nl4xf5l 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +8

    Классный аппарат я себе тоже такой заказал , привет из России 🙂👍

    • @luder3311
      @luder3311 หลายเดือนก่อน

      В наличии их еще нет? Хочу свой 600 в трейд-ин на новый литр махнуть

  • @justinfogelsonger4769
    @justinfogelsonger4769 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Did they fix the steering radius 🤦🏼‍♂️
    I have a 22 overland hate the steering radius

  • @jusdsun8319
    @jusdsun8319 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

    So what all was changed in the engine? All new?

  • @hamiddzafic9488
    @hamiddzafic9488 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Great video👍 when you put new cforces on dyno so we can see what is the real power at the max speed 140 kmh and 10000 rpm💪

  • @trailblazeratv6306
    @trailblazeratv6306 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +33

    Polaris is in big trouble with these prices

    • @RealTalkPowersports
      @RealTalkPowersports  3 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

      I believe you are correct sir

    • @mjuhanil
      @mjuhanil 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      $17,000 in Canada...brutal

    • @aaronmcfee506
      @aaronmcfee506 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

      ​@mjuhanil is that good compared the competition

    • @mjuhanil
      @mjuhanil 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@aaronmcfee506
      Same price as can am outlander 850 max xt

    • @MiniAlex502
      @MiniAlex502 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      ​@RealTalkPowersports do you know what I would need to fix on my gen 2 800xc? The fan won't kick on at all and I've pulled the fuse and put it back in ( doesn't look burnt) I heard it could be a thermoswitch but don't want to mess with it until I'm positive. Greatly appreciate it of you could respond

  • @coldragoon
    @coldragoon 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Is the seat better or the same? I find the gen 2 so thin lol

  • @jasonmiller9495
    @jasonmiller9495 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Can you feel the difference in power on the 800

  • @julian007gaming4
    @julian007gaming4 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

    When is this going to be released?

  • @mjuhanil
    @mjuhanil 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

    When will these be in dealerships

  • @paulleolizotteiv2972
    @paulleolizotteiv2972 หลายเดือนก่อน

    I hope the clutch isn’t a 90 day warranty because that’s gonna suck and that the $500 part and it’s not underneath as a wearing and tear part

  • @4-LOW
    @4-LOW 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    75 HP 2-seat fully optioned ATV for under $10k. Polaris can hide and weep.

    • @perrodukegordo
      @perrodukegordo 24 วันที่ผ่านมา

      this cf moto 1000 is 90hp

  • @rickgarcia8481
    @rickgarcia8481 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

    By the looks of it, it may feel faster but it wasn't showing up on the video, it's subtle if anything.

  • @OHVLife
    @OHVLife 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Thats definitely not the quad I would buy for that kind of riding. I'd be interested to know how they hold up after 500 miles of trail riding out West.

  • @trainwreck109
    @trainwreck109 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

    As someone that rides motorcycles, the brake on the right side is better

  • @jakemccann2790
    @jakemccann2790 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

    The gen 3 screen will be hard to read with a film of dust on it
    Machine looks good
    I really like my overland but the steering acts up

    • @RealTalkPowersports
      @RealTalkPowersports  3 หลายเดือนก่อน

      We will definitely test it and I’d like to come up with the perfect size protector for the screen

    • @jakemccann2790
      @jakemccann2790 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@RealTalkPowersports old school roll offs for the screen, LoL

  • @Vodafone16v
    @Vodafone16v 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Are the 400/500/600 getting the 2024 treatment anytime soon? 👀

    • @RealTalkPowersports
      @RealTalkPowersports  3 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      No sir.. they both recently got their refresh and re designs

  • @jakemccann2790
    @jakemccann2790 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Shifter on the right side doesn't work very well for plowing snow

  • @dganlc
    @dganlc 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Please explain why these are so damn heavy?

  • @skeeterjohn200
    @skeeterjohn200 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

    So is it worth it to wait for a gen 3 or is the gen2 2024 as good?

    • @sosoaca6
      @sosoaca6 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Gen 3 will probably be full of problems for 2-3 years.Gen 2 is already perfectioned after years of testing , reviews and tuning

  • @giveabundance
    @giveabundance 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

    When will these new 800s and 1000s start hitting the dealerships?

    • @RealTalkPowersports
      @RealTalkPowersports  3 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      Hope to find out in the next couple weeks

  • @timostillman4708
    @timostillman4708 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Brake and shifter new place.

  • @user-vs1ye7yl1y
    @user-vs1ye7yl1y หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Cf 800 new,what is the price in the USA? 😂

  • @raywilson9691
    @raywilson9691 หลายเดือนก่อน

    I think I’d prefer the CVT clutch….at least we can mod it

  • @DavidFernandez-sc5ws
    @DavidFernandez-sc5ws 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    At this point people by Polaris for the name. I like value for money, don’t care about the name. This is it. Can’t wait for the single seat version

  • @ArcticExploring
    @ArcticExploring 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Are all '24 models Gen 3?

    • @RealTalkPowersports
      @RealTalkPowersports  2 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      no not all

    • @ArcticExploring
      @ArcticExploring 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@RealTalkPowersports Ah crap. Well I'm still looking into the cf 600 (625 in Europe)

  • @herbf2700
    @herbf2700 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    I'm probably going to get a 1000.

    • @RealTalkPowersports
      @RealTalkPowersports  3 หลายเดือนก่อน

      that's awesome!!! What color

    • @herbf2700
      @herbf2700 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@RealTalkPowersports Black or Camo. I live in Utah so I'll have to see if I can find one locally.

  • @immachine1565
    @immachine1565 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Juuunnnnnnk

  • @cullens165able
    @cullens165able 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

    If cfmoto wanted to roll in money, they would design a trail sport quad like a 400 or 500. Like the 400ex or ltz400. Nobody sells a sport trail anymore except raptor 700 for 10k, then the yfz450.

  • @rnovia80
    @rnovia80 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

    what are the power steering modes that you mentioned?

    • @RealTalkPowersports
      @RealTalkPowersports  3 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      That wasn’t power steering modes but throttle modes

  • @howarddavis8748
    @howarddavis8748 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

    I have to admit that I have to give credit where credit is due... these new CF motos especially the 1k with the same 90 horsepower as a Polaris looking mighty fine!!! But still my sportsman 1000S is still the baddest quad on a planet at this time.. I would love to ride with you boys, It would have been very interesting to say the least!

    • @RealTalkPowersports
      @RealTalkPowersports  3 หลายเดือนก่อน

      I’d like to drive the SportsmanS

    • @howarddavis8748
      @howarddavis8748 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@RealTalkPowersports You may not want to.., next level buddy...
      The pwr and handling can only be expressed by the operator, can't describe it in simple words.!

  • @jakemccann2790
    @jakemccann2790 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Cf moto should really concentrate on their power steering issues with gen 2 before creating more electrical issues for gen 3 owners

    • @RealTalkPowersports
      @RealTalkPowersports  3 หลายเดือนก่อน

      What year model do you have

    • @jakemccann2790
      @jakemccann2790 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@RealTalkPowersports 2022

    • @jakemccann2790
      @jakemccann2790 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@RealTalkPowersports 2022 overland

  • @pmaint1
    @pmaint1 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    "Look at this monster of a screen" Until it rolls over and it squishes like a bug, a very expensive bug!

  • @33Mettal
    @33Mettal 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

    im not convinced yet...

  • @rzl07375
    @rzl07375 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Uh oh, no mention of a difference in power between the two? Lighter and more hp, it should have been a big difference . Must not have been real noticable?

    • @RealTalkPowersports
      @RealTalkPowersports  3 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      The clutching and tuning on this early pre production model was no where close to where the final product is much better. But the production model according to cfmoto is way better than what we drove.

  • @hauptberuflichergandalf3238
    @hauptberuflichergandalf3238 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

    i like the new Display but it looks weird on a ATV :D

  • @SuperSYMPATHIZER
    @SuperSYMPATHIZER 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Meet Polaris on 55” width

  • @mikestowe6136
    @mikestowe6136 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    heres what i dont get with any offroad utv or atv with nice screens if somone wanted to make some money why dont someone make screen protectors for the screens you know how easy they get scratched people just rubbing the dust n mud off them scratching the hell outy of the screen i guess id pay 20 bucks for screen protector vs 500 to a grand for a new display unit hell thats the first thing i do to my vechile is put screen protector on the touch screen feel free to send me royalties when ya start selling screen protectors lol

    • @RealTalkPowersports
      @RealTalkPowersports  3 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Hahaha yes sir I do agree with you!! This thing needs a nice screen protector

  • @glengearhart651
    @glengearhart651 หลายเดือนก่อน

    The thing that surprised me the most is that they accelerate about the same. The Gen 3 has at least 16 more horsepower pushing 80+ pounds less weight. It should be significantly faster. 🤷

    • @glengearhart651
      @glengearhart651 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Oops, I saw in another post where you said the clutching was still way off on this pre-production model.
      Love the channel and your videos.
      I plan to buy a 1000 touring when they come out.

  • @jameskeith67
    @jameskeith67 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Kinda looks like the gen 3 pushes in the corners more than the gen 2.

    • @RealTalkPowersports
      @RealTalkPowersports  3 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      The Clutching wasn't as snappy and in the soft sandy terrain it didn't wanna kick the back end around as easy..
      but remember this was one of the first pre production units that we tested. it has been drastically improved since...(well according to CFMOTO)
      But we will find out for yall soon

  • @Copeland910
    @Copeland910 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Good gosh no single rider vtwin & there doing away with cvtech primary

  • @dskofich
    @dskofich 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

    The new clutch still bothers me

  • @TheAmerican1963
    @TheAmerican1963 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Instead of describing the trail that we can readily see, it would have been nice to hear feed back on back-shifting, handling, suspension, acceleration, transmission shifting ..... things like that. Fun video but learned nothing, really, from it.

  • @Ssundaybikes123
    @Ssundaybikes123 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Sounds nutless compared to the previous generation

  • @bubbablue1100
    @bubbablue1100 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Ive read a lot of reviews that the cf moto has engine failures at a young age. 100 hours or so.

    • @RealTalkPowersports
      @RealTalkPowersports  3 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      I sure haven’t seen that and we sell more Cfmotos than anyone in the world and we handle more warranty and service work than any cfmoto shop in the world and I do not see a lot of engine failures..
      we do see them., but not often at all.

    • @BlettzaHrekleW
      @BlettzaHrekleW 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      I've seen multiple Cfmotos over the years with over 10,000 miles , several over 15,000 , know of a Uforce over 21,000 miles and that's factory built engine on Thomas Hughes.. Cfmoto isn't new to the engine game , over 30 years , says alot about the brand when Ktm and Yamaha are in with Cfmoto..
      They've built parts for many brands for long time

  • @OldGuy70s
    @OldGuy70s 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

    So how long will it last... lol jk

    • @RealTalkPowersports
      @RealTalkPowersports  3 หลายเดือนก่อน +8

      Haha I hope we are getting past those questions now that CFMOTO has constantly been improving over the last 5 years

    • @27Zangle
      @27Zangle 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      Longer than Polaris or Can-Am. Ouch!

    • @crfamily6946
      @crfamily6946 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

      Probably longer than your canam!

    • @OldGuy70s
      @OldGuy70s 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

      DreaM Onnn...... & Onnn....@@27Zangle

    • @OldGuy70s
      @OldGuy70s 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Go aHead, support the enemy you'll be fighting sooN...... I'll support Japan Instead........@@27Zangle

  • @geezusmeatball1328
    @geezusmeatball1328 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

    look slugishh for a 1000cc compare to outlander and sportsman

    • @RealTalkPowersports
      @RealTalkPowersports  3 หลายเดือนก่อน

      That’s a 800

    • @BlettzaHrekleW
      @BlettzaHrekleW 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

      800s , not 1000s

    • @geezusmeatball1328
      @geezusmeatball1328 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@RealTalkPowersports 800 then ..they look sluggish like previous gen, my friend and his wife both have 1000 cc 2021 and they are okay but not power house like outlander and sportsman 800cc