My local CFMoto dealer is doing $2,000 off MSRP on most machines. Winter is definitely the time to buy for good deals. Their 600 is going for about $5600 MSRP.
That was awesome. Loaded with great information and some great lines. That one at the end got me laughing out loud. Almost got asked to leave the gym 🤣 Appreciate the shout out too, dude. You rock 👑 ⭐️🏆
Yeah he does Rock he speaks the truth and he doesn't get mad at people when they speak the truth just like you do dirt tracks I think you got too popular and your nose got up in the air that's why I don't bother with dirt tracks anymore just a bunch of snobs
Awesome video good job keep up the good work I find the Bombardier not to be very reliable and dude it is extremely ugly just because it is so ugly I wouldn't buy it it's even uglier than a Polaris and I didn't think that was possible lol like Yamaha I own one myself but I did have a 750 King Quad don't know why I sold it I should have kept it next chance I get I'm going back to a King Quad definitely one of the best I would even say the best
Dirt Obsession is REAL (not some AI BS) and the best ATV channel on youtube! I also love ATVonDemand and DirtTrax :) You guys are the high priests of ATV journalism!
Went from a 700 TRV Cat to a 700 XT MAX Can Am. So far very happy, though might have bought another Cat if my dealer had not stopped selling them. My Cat was very reliable for the 10 years that I owned it. Love the 2 up's.
Best to do your research. Ive owned honda, can am, Polaris and suzuki. My 2023 600 touring cfmoto cforce has 4000 flawless miles on it. 9200 out the door and loaded up with extras. Every bit as reliable and more than most my bikes.
@@flyingbriando5521 If you are looking for a big bore four wheeler,I can help you with that also.Went through 22 belts on three new Can-Am’s plus one belt jammed in the clutches flipped me at 45 miles an hour and that was it. Plus many,many,many expensive repairs.I now have a completely tricked out brute force 750.I installed Elka shocks, Empire duals,Massive brush guard, bigger tires and wheels and warn winch. Probably left out a few things. Doesn’t have quite as much power as a 1000 Can Am but believe me it has a lot more than the 50 they say it does. Put the exhaust on it and clutch kit,really opens it up, hope that helps
So happy to see a video from you guys. Was getting worried…..lol. To each their own but I’m not a fan of the China machines. However it looks like in 5 years they maybe #1 in atv sales. Personally I have 4 king quads that our family rides together on. They may not be the best in any one area but for me they never have any issues. Always ready to go. Can take us anywhere we point them. Just a simple, reliable, time tested machine. I sure hope Suzuki doesn’t get out like Kawasaki did with the Brute. As you guys know they are really good machines. The Can Am 700 is a nice new machine and it’s great to see them invest in a new design. Hope Yamaha and Suzuki follow suit. Thanks again for a great video guys. We appreciate you, merry Christmas!
I think the Chinese will force the big brands to adapt both in price and R&D. As the video said, Textron has deep pockets and they can easily invest in this segment when they start to see their profits dry up.
I have a Grizzly and a Rincon. Love my Grizzly, but waiting for Honda to be in this class too with something worthy. All they have to do is add a low gear, locking front diff and EPS to the Rincon and they have my money. Hopefully they will be in next years video. Love your content, you guys are the best!.
I have been following your channel over the last year to see what new machine i want to land with and I am set on the grizzly 700. Sat on a grizz 700 and a king quad yesterday and the grizzly felt A LOT better. The king quad plastics felt cheap and flexed bad under my weight while climbing onto the machine.
Awesome video as usual. I've said it before and I'll say it again...all I really need to watch on TH-cam for my powersports content is Dirt Trax and Dirt ObseXXion!!! Nothing else needed. 🍻from 🇨🇦.
Great video as always, keep the content coming. Is there an ETA for a hands on review video of an Outlander 700? I am considering purchasing a 700 XT (the trail focused model), and would love to hear what you think.
Great comparison, I just picked up a new leftover 22 King Quad 750 for $8000 OTD for a base model. With a Kodiac being $10500 and a Grizzly being I’ve $11,000 it was an easy decision for me. So even with Bison bumpers a winch and a Kolpin rear box I’m in it for less than $9k
Im not a Can-Am guy, but the mew 700 is a game changer. The saw mount is 30 years overdue. And ike you said, the mod selection and from factory is easy to get. If you live in wet areas, OEM snorkels are just a click away for peace of mind.
Great review, get to ride almost everything at the shop on road tests before the customer is called for pickup. Enjoy listening to your assessment of the details of each machine. Sold 2 out of my 12 machines last week to thin out the herd, but picked up a Warrior project yesterday to fill that empty feeling in my sheds. Did I see some non-oem lettering on that little Moto4 spelling out "panty dropper", or has my age caught up to me? Take care guys, I hope you're all riding at 70 also.
LOL! You read that correctly.. The Moto 4 is a panty dropper! Good luck with the Warrior, I'd love to see that one.. If I ever find a nice mint Warrior I'm grabbing it.
My 2023 outlander max 700XT has so far been honestly trouble free with 1300kms so far. It is a large improvement over my previous 2018 outlander max 570 XT, except in power. No complaints on my purchase.
Bought a 23 Can-Am 700dps. It's the smoothest riding ATV I've ever ridden. The adjustable dps is awesome. Looked at all the other ATVS in this class and this was the best bang for the buck. Storage space is plentiful, access to the engine compartment is easy. So far no problems whatsoever.
@wowdude8244 My Canam always had small issues in the four years I owned it . First ride out from brand new , lower rad hose fell off , lost all the coolant , one and a half hours from the camp. Chewed up canam brake pads fast . Owned my polaris sportsman for 5 years with no similar issues , trouble free.
I’ve talked to lots of very happy CF owners who have years and thousands of KM on them. The weight of them is off putting as I load into the bed of my truck. When you have two adults, plus gear, food, beer you’re getting near or over max payload of most half ton crew cab trucks. I will occasionally tow my boat too and I am at max payload when the tongue weight is added The new CanAm is really compelling and I think would get my money if I were to buy today. I’d go 700 Pro XU
Nice review! Alot of CF Motos sold around my area, price and standard features is the main attraction. Still own and love my 16 Brute Force and am sad to see Kawasaki drop it from there line up.
Hey, new subscriber here. I'm sure I've watched at least a few of your vids over the years, but I just acquired a TRX700XX so I've been scouring TH-cam for any vids I can find. I saw the XX in your channel name, and thought for sure there would be some good XX content. I can understand not having any Honda Blackbird content (my other XX) on a dirt channel, but c'mon guys. You need to do a TRX-XX review!
Lol!!! It's true, we need to review one! Honestly, good ones are hard to find and usually go for top dollar.. None of us are fans of quads with irs which is probably the main reason we haven't grabbed one.. We have ridden them and ridden with people who have them and they're great machines!
My daughter's got 2 Argo XR500 SE atvs for their birthdays. Great machine, heavy but solid. Same machine as Kymco and same 443cc engine used on Kymco and Arctic Cat 450.
Oh good info, I knew they were TGB but didn't realize Kymco and TGB shared an engine. Makes sense though. A 700 MXU is a solid machine too, just very hard to find.
The market for ATVs is just different from what it used to be 20 years ago. UTVs have taken over. It stinks, but I get it--why try to sell a $10k ATV when people are willing to make monthly payments on a $ 35k UTV? I'll always reflect on the old Arctic Cat 500-foot shift and my 650 H1. Those were great ATVs back in the day.
2023 Alterra TRV is my favorite all around. 1 year of riding at Iron Mountain Georgia and it has been flawless. My least favorite in my fleet is my 2023 Polaris Sportsman xp 1000 with ride command, power is great but it made me wish i got the Outlander 1000 or 6x6.
Best all around atv from 2015+? been looking at the sportsman 450 and 570 but i don't know as much as you do . im not going to be abusing the atv, just more of riding around the 30 acre property and using it for work like log towing and what not
I'd steer you towards the Suzuki KingQuad in terms the best all around performance, reliability, and value.. The old Sportsman 500s were pretty good but Polaris quality really dropped off over the last 10 years
@JacobOverman We did for a few months.. In order to make videos we can't keep machines around too long. Except for Raptors, I'll always have a Raptor in the garage
I’m in the process of selling my rzr and planning on going back to a atv . It’s either going to be a new outlander 700 dps or kingquad with dps . I don’t need a fancy top of the line atv . Up here in Canada dealers are selling the outlander 700 dps from $10.200-10.700 . kingquad 750 with dps is $11700 . A course that’s before dealer fees and our lovely 13% sales tax . i know the kingquad has a record of being reliable but still undecided on what to buy . Saving a $1000 or more is always nice
My dad has a King Quad, I own a 2024 Outlander Pro XU and a 2020 Grizzly. We both agree the Outlander is the best of 3 in almost every aspect, while coming in very in price.
@@DirtObseXXion Thats great! Im looking for some trails that would be good for a beginner, ive mainly done riding on the farm no trail riding before. Thank you for responding
@@HondaRancher420 The big commercial trail areas like Rush, Mine Made, Hollwerwood, and Blue Holler are all pretty much taken over by SXSs.. The trails are rideable but al lot of them will be crowded and rutted. The best ATV trails are in the Daniel Boone i.e. White Sulfur, Redbird Crest, and S tree. If you're further West then, Turkey Bay is pretty fun. If you're further East then you have can get to the Hatfield McCoy trails in WV which is some of the best riding in the Country. We go to Canmer quite a bit, it's small so it's not worth a long drive but if you're near central KY it's worth checking out. Depending on where you're at, Wayne NF in Ohio, Interlake OHV in Indiana, and Ride Royal Blue in TN are pretty fun.
@@DirtObseXXion thats a lot of information i really appreciate it. I will definitely try out Redbird Crest trail when the weathers nice. Not to far from Cranmer either so i will have to try that too.
I have a 2005 honda rincon , no cvt. No belt slip runs and start in -25 northern Quebec weather, but the girls getting old. Value are my biggest wants. I’m thinking king quad with power steering or the outlander 700. Any thought please help
Nice list of mid displacement contenders for 24! Not surprised to see the Honda Rincon disappear. I really wish Honda would step up their game in the ATV market. Yamaha and Can-Am have some strong models for 24 though !
i went with the outlander 500 dps instead of the 7oo to save some $. so far it's been excellent.i added a bumper,handguards,usb and helmet heater plugs and mirrors,fender flares and a 3500# winch and still came in under 13k canadian.best of all,all my wheels/tires from my commander fit on the outlander,so i have mud/trail/snow tires that i can swap.
Curious about the outlander 500 and why Can Am included a de-tuned model. Do you know if it's clutched differently, or if the power starts at lower rpms making it more work oriented than the 700? Cheers!
I came from a Kymco MXU 500 IRS and wanted more. Especially more cylinders. I got a can am outlander 570 with that amazing 650 two cylinder Rotax engine. Unlocked it, so it got the power of the bigger chassis outlander 650. It is a fabulous machine and makes me smile every ride. So I was and still am very skeptical with can am’s move to drop the two cylinder models in the smaller displacement class. I get the price point, but on the other hand ist was their usp. Enough for me to update to can am. I guess you drove both the 2 cylinder 650 and the new 1 cylinder 700 for quite some time. Which would you consider the better engine? I feel like downgrading if I would buy a new outlander 700 engine wise. Love the new style though.
The single is a step down from the 650 twin 100%.. It was a business decision for CanAm to compete with the current market while streamlining production. Can't blame them for it, and the ne Outty's are nice.. But there intended to compete in this class. 570 and 650 twin Outlander owners will probably find these a little underwhelming power/performance-wise..
Would it be better to group the atvs by price instead of displacement? For $9100, the can am and grizzly compete with the cforce 800 rather then the 600. For $11000, that’s a cforce 1000 otd price
Another great video and all great points made. Cant stand when i click on a video and I hear Rosey the robot reading a script 😡. Here at Odyssey Offroad we also know all about crippling debt to support our ATV obsession 😅
Been happy with my 2021 cfmoto 600 pulls my boat to the water in and out no problem great on the trails over 2000 miles with no problems so far. It's my 5th wheeler and seems well put together But nothing will compare to my old Arctic Cat 300 with 16000 miles on it.
I really hope you are correct. If so they will sell tons of them. Everyone really wants to buy Honda, but just aren't impressed with their current offerings. Please Honda get in the game!
Great video. Don’t really have anything to say just want to help out the channel by commenting. Just one thing, the Grizzly with the 27 zilla square setup is marginal at best for trial riding. Please, Yamaha, change the tires!!!!!!
I own an 05 KQ and 08 Grizz, love em both. Grizzly has a much better suspension setup, and the new ones also have temp and volage gauges, something lacking on Suzuki, as well as a Park gear. But the quality and durability of the KingQuad, and oh, I just can't get over the face on how smooth that engine runs. It's not the 722 single, mine has the 695 Single DOHC, and it's so damn smooth.
Agree with all.. The 722 is very smooth too.. Surprisingly smooth for a single and very low compression which probably makes it one of the most bullet proof motors ever produced.
@@FullsendOffroad The suspension was stiffened to combat some of the front end dive the old ones had, it does that pretty well but still has very limited suspension travel. The Grizzly rides and handles much better, better powersteering, but I still like KQ
@@DirtObseXXion My KingQuad has no EPS, so I can't speak for it, but yes, the Grizzly has much better handling and comfort, largely due to the front suspension being mounted to the lower control arm, as oppose to the Upper arm on the KingQuad. Over really rough therrain, the KingQuad can be a slight pain in the ass. But a huge thing to mention is that the KIngQuad is a DOHC, which allows it to run much smoother, and be more powerful in both low and high end. I haven't tried getting my Grizzly to 60 yet, but my KingQuad was doing 62 and it still wanted to go more. It's an extreme powerhouse.
That's a good question but it's kinda hard recommend something without context.. Is he riding with you, what are you on how big, mature, competent as a rider is he, and what does he want? Very well could be time to just go full size so you don't have buy again in 2 years.. if it's going to be a utility, I'm a big fan of the Kodiak 450s and KingQuad 400 or 500.. The 500 size-wise is the same as the 750.. The 400 is a little smaller
I was looking for a kingquad but finally bought a 700 xmr because of the cheaper price. I m hard on it and it seem to be reliable... I m alway wot in the trail and the engine is starting to have a ticking noise but nothing to worry about. The thermostat is odd on those atv. It can take 15 min to get to its running temp... The front and rear drive shaft connect to the same shaft in the transmission, which cause a rotationnal force on the rubber engine mount. If you re beating on it, you can alway hear the engine stopper on top of the cylinder head hitting the frame because of that... And one last thing, normally on every atv or sxs, if you mesure the lower vs the upper a arm lenght( from bushing to ball joint) you will find the lower being longer than the upper which is normal geometry... But on the outlander 700, the upper is longer front and rear. They did that to have a better roll center in the turn and get more suspension travel by having better cv angle but the track width change is very bad because of that so when you re going fast in the bump, it s very hard to keep the atv straight.
Couldn't honestly couldn't tell you. Haven't seen any in the U.S. at all. In Canada it might worth looking at but I have no way of comparing it to a CFMOTO or AC. The downside would be more significant that argo, very hard to find, no aftermarket support, limited parts availability... The only way I'd consider one is if there was dealer within 20 minutes.
@@DirtObseXXionthanks for reply. I'm a bit surprised, as I thought Segway was originally a US company. Segway dealers are very common in Europe, just as common as Polaris, Can Am, or CFMOTO. It's actually harder to find Yamaha or Suzuki ATV dealer :-)
@NotTheRest I figured they'd be here by now too.. Lots in Canada but I searched Google when I saw your comment and didn't see anything in the U.S. Doesn't mean there aren't some outliers, but they're certainly hard to find.. I don't like to include machines in lists that I haven't at least thoroughly checked out in person if not reviewed
@@DirtObseXXion Even in Canada, almost all the Segway dealers are in the eastern half of the country (Ontario and Quebec mainly). Out west here there are only a couple dealers, so Segway isn't even on my list as I consider a purchase in the next month or two.
I’ve done my part over the last several years to keep atvs alive ! 3 Brutes 1000 Sportsman KQ 750 Grizzly 700 And now Outty 1000R. Sad about the Brute 😢
@@DirtObseXXion I edited that was supposed to say part not past . Yea it’s super nice but I don’t like some fit and finish things and the loud *** whirring sound from the rear end .
@firstoutlander the outlander is a good machine, but best handling, not so much. Especially a gen 1. I've driven 1st and 2nd gen 650's and 570's too. The KQ is by far sportier on the winding forestry roads. Not to mention separate front and rear brakes making a controlled drift much easier. My current ATV is a twin with 28+ more HP than the KQ 850, and again, I'm not talking power, the KQ was easier to manage at speed through the winding roads with confidence. Because a controlled drift is always better than relying on HP the throw the back end out. And my KQ always beat an outty 650 out of the hole. But not for very long.
@@firstoutlander again, I haven't ridden the specific new 500/700. But I'm just going off my experiences as an owner, and rider. But at the end of the day, all I can say is that the KQ is a sportier ride due to weight, power, length, and brakes. So you can argue my reality all you want, but you can't change it over a video online lol. And if you read through any of my comments on the new 700, I'm actually impressed by the new design and might actually get me to own a canam for once.
so i had an argo 1000, traded it in. hard to get parts, like a tie rod, something so simple and no delivery or available time. a month to get an oil filter, got a Polaris 1000 ride command sportsman.
@@DirtObseXXion I am with you on the Polaris front. Talking to my local Can-am dealer, he personally owns two identical model/year Polaris Sportsman 570 machines. One has spent more time in the shop than on the trail, while the other has needed nothing but a new battery! It is exactly that type of inconsistent quality control that steers me away from Polaris. North American built doesn't mean good quality, just like Chinese/Taiwanese built doesn't mean bad quality.
Have you heard anything about the new Honda TRZ I’ve been hearing they filed a patent for this name and I’m hoping it’s a new big bore ATV but I won’t hold my breath because it could be anything.
@@DirtObseXXion I seen it on the Honda pro Kevin you tube channel and a friend of mine that works at a Honda dealership told me something new was coming but that’s all he could tell me. Hopefully more information will be available soon.i will continue to dig and search and hope lol
i seen your review on rmatv on the terraforms with that said out of these shown in the video i still stand by my initial comment/s made on your grizzly and kingquad video from months ago and maybe the cf moto and personally i think the back rack sucks on those canned hams lol and lastly ya didnt include the sportsman 570's they have 700 class power and would probably whip half the ones in this video lol ive been lookin at different ones every s often and gonna try to get somethin sometime next year after ive gotten my credit built back up i just dont know what yet but ive got plenty of time to make up my mind
No I specifically left the Sportsman out because it will be in the next video. Honestly, I'm more comfortable recommending every other ATV on this list over the Sportsman anyway..
IMHO, as am AC owner too, I'd buy another one, reliable, well built, and low maintenance. BUT... Textton has shit the bed and seem to be smoking they're neighbours (Polaris) msrp crack pipe these days. Textrin has priced themselves out of sales.
@@DirtObseXXion If Argo doesn't deal with media in North America, that could explain their lackluster market penetration. I honestly didn't even know Argo built ATV's until I started researching for my upcoming purchase a few weeks ago. If they don't work on some marketing, they won't be around long.
Great content. I have been in the market for a new quad and was ready to pull the trigger on the Can Am 700, until I heard about teething issues with the new platform, especially problems with high altitude operation. And since I live at 7000 ft in Colorado and mostly go higher than that, AND alot of the time by myself, having those types of problems are a big no to the Can Am. But I found a great deal ( less than 10k out the door) on a 24 Grizzly EPS about 4 hours away. Picking it up on Tuesday.
Never heard of any problems with high altitude according to my friend in the Rockies, matter of fact he said that’s why he got the xt700 because of the fuel injection compensation for the altitude. So far my dealer in Ct says that’s what he sells the most and hasn’t had any issues yet, says he sold over 200 since 2023.
@@firstoutlander Thats good to hear, but I couldn't be happier with my new Griz, I do wish Can Am well with their new platform, but at $9300 out the door before taxes was a no brainer for the Yamaha that I know wont let me down, I frkn LOVE the grizzly.
Why is everyone saying Kawasaki dropped the brute force? The redesigned Brute is currently on there website. Its the same machine just a new body for a starting price at $9,999
The Yamaha machines are the lightest and most reliable. They cost more because they are worth more. My 2008 Grizzly 700 runs like new despite having been run hard in steep nasty terrain. Don’t be fooled by bigger horsepower numbers on heavier machines. You will want to be on a lighter one when it rolls over on top of you.
Also crazy news. If you guys haven't heard, Kawasaki just released a brand new 750 Brute. We all though we had to wait for 2025 for another Brute Force but here it is already.
They did exactly what Suzuki did in 2019 but in 2024 with LEDs and a color display. However Suzuki did change some internal engine and clutching components, mainly cooling. I like the new BF750 look but it still has the short end of the stick vs the KQ and Grizzly
@@district12tribute28 I'd say Kawasaki may be the right choice, even above KQ and Grizzly. It has all round LED's, a twin engine, color blurtooth display STANDARD, and that's for 10k without power steering. It's baffling. It is mainly the same machine with suspension, but in 2019 Suzuki still didn't do all too much with the clutching, frame, and suspension, they just tweaked all of those things.
@@FullsendOffroad I would put it far above the grizzly which I believe it was before due to Yamaha’s disappointing fit and finish issues in the newer grizzly (2016 to present). The Bruteforce and Kingquad have always been my favorites, despite the new screen and LEDs the Bruteforce still has the same issues it’s had for years. Besides the screen Suzuki still definitely outpaces it. For example, I think it’s very hard to justify no factory hitch receiver on a 2024 UTILITY atv. For me it’s definitely Kawasaki and Suzuki running the game. It would be nice to see Suzuki put one of their motorcycle vtwins in the Kingquad though 👀
@@district12tribute28 Yamaha's fit and finish still is on the same level as Polaris and Can Am. It's really the only issue, and once that gets fixed, Grizzly is best for me. The suspension is way better than KingQuad (I've never driven a Brute) and In general I feel that the Grizzly is just more well rounded. Kawasaki has always had some issues here and there. Suzuki is flawless in fit and finish and reliability, as well as the engine, but it lacks in tech, suspension, and storage. Yamaha's CVT also has park gear, which Brute Force and KingQuad lack. I'm glad to see the Brute force making big upgrades, and Suzuki has to catch up. The Main disappointment in the new Brute I'd say is not the hitch but rather that they didn't upgrade the suspension or frame much. Suzuki was similar in 2019, with just making minor suspension and frame adjustments. I'd still say Grizzly is top of its class, but it needs more power. I'd love to see a 750 Grizzly with a smoother running engine. But 700cc is still a lot and I love my 08 Grizzly and I'd buy a new one any day if I had the money. *I'd say that all three quads are absolutely awesome in their different ways and there is no objective winner. They're all equally good and the rest is just up to personal preference.* And I'd absolutely love to see an 800 KingQuad with the parallel twin from the V-strom. Also an 850 V-twin Grizzly with a wolverine engine would be cool as well.
@@FullsendOffroad Comparing 2024 models of them all I’d have KQ and Bruteforce tied and Yamaha behind both. Like I said I’m constantly around all of them except for the 2024 Kawasaki obviously but the Kingquad is definitely the most well rounded. Slightly better suspension than Bruteforce but no where near on the grizzly. The grizzly is comparable to Polaris on the new models but everywhere else it falls short besides color ways. The displays all show essentially the same information not including the new Brute. I will say the Kingquad and Kawasaki are significantly more powerful than the grizzly 50hp vs 47. The Bruteforce however despite the same horsepower laughably blows them both out of the water. Until you have ridden one it’s not really understandable, the Bruteforce feels like a 850. Overall Yamaha Suspension\handling, Kawasaki for motor and Suzuki for everything in between. I agree 100% about a vstorm engine in a Kingquad but I don’t expect it. I’m planning on switching to a 2024 Kawasaki soon as I have a 2021 Kingquad which before I had a 18 Grizzly and before that 2012 Bruteforce. They are all so near peer it’s hard to decide but I have Kawi and Zuki out ahead, the vtwin Bruteforce is nuts and the Kingquad is already so well rounded that the DOHC and better fit and finish are both more attractive than the Grizzly in today’s market. Like I said though I can’t put more of an emphasis on the Kawasaki vtwin it’s like a 392 vs a SUV
If Kawasaki drops a quality single-cylinder release/replacement for the Brute Force I will buy it. If you look at Kawasaki as a whole and you see how far they have moved away from the ATV market, it seems unlikely that this will happen. Trying to stay positive though.
Great review... HOWEVER 😂 I would argue till I'm blue in the face that the grizzlies reliability is no where close to the king quad... The KQ is as reliable or maybe more reliable than a Honda.. this is proven over an over again. Even in any atv forum people will back my claim. Even on TH-cam there are people switch from the troubles grizzlies to a king quad.. Not to mention the fit an finish on ANY Yamaha as of late is just trash. I was think about picking up a new can am Pro XU HD7 to try out but I'm seeing lots of gremlins ... IMHO the king will always be king Even though it's long in the tooth..but there's a reason..don't fix something that isn't broke..plus I love the looks of a KQ
Best atvs Nomenclature should not be used on brand new and new models because they are not tested to see if their best or junk.. 5 years down the road after consumers input ect ect You could have a best and worst title!
@@DirtObseXXion will you have shown the lineup from midsize machines including the China crop and you know that there's a 520 Honda come on what kind of propaganda is that I mean it Compares big time don't you think or maybe it just doesn't compare
I'm not sure either.. I thought it was an older motorcycle engine import tax on imports over 750cc.. That was Regan Era tariff that Harley Davidson petitioned for.. But Argo and CFMOTO figured it out so.. 🤷♂️
Hate those a I generated videos. Love real content❤
Lol! Me too
@@DirtObseXXioncan u do the side by sides to
@@brianpalmer3560 that works
@@brianpalmer3560 😆
My local CFMoto dealer is doing $2,000 off MSRP on most machines. Winter is definitely the time to buy for good deals. Their 600 is going for about $5600 MSRP.
That was awesome. Loaded with great information and some great lines. That one at the end got me laughing out loud. Almost got asked to leave the gym 🤣 Appreciate the shout out too, dude. You rock 👑 ⭐️🏆
Polishing up those guns eh!?! You are the ones who, in fact, do all of the rocking!!!! 🤩
Yeah he does Rock he speaks the truth and he doesn't get mad at people when they speak the truth just like you do dirt tracks I think you got too popular and your nose got up in the air that's why I don't bother with dirt tracks anymore just a bunch of snobs
Awesome video good job keep up the good work I find the Bombardier not to be very reliable and dude it is extremely ugly just because it is so ugly I wouldn't buy it it's even uglier than a Polaris and I didn't think that was possible lol like Yamaha I own one myself but I did have a 750 King Quad don't know why I sold it I should have kept it next chance I get I'm going back to a King Quad definitely one of the best I would even say the best
I have a 21 cforce 600. Beast. Just Small enough for dirtbike trails and big enough to keep up and a workhorse no doubt
Heck yeah! Glad to hear it!
Dirt Obsession is REAL (not some AI BS) and the best ATV channel on youtube! I also love ATVonDemand and DirtTrax :) You guys are the high priests of ATV journalism!
LOL! Thanks brother! I have an Outlander XTP review coming out on AOD very soon!
Went from a 700 TRV Cat to a 700 XT MAX Can Am. So far very happy, though might have bought another Cat if my dealer had not stopped selling them. My Cat was very reliable for the 10 years that I owned it. Love the 2 up's.
Yeah a lot of the dealerships disappeared or stopped selling cats around 2017.. Hope the Outlander brings you another 10 years of adventure!
Best to do your research. Ive owned honda, can am, Polaris and suzuki. My 2023 600 touring cfmoto cforce has 4000 flawless miles on it. 9200 out the door and loaded up with extras. Every bit as reliable and more than most my bikes.
Outlander Pro XU HD7, AEB, ITC, Dps, , locking diff. , 26 inch 6 ply tires , led lights , front and rear bumpers , torque tuned clutch , best value !
Legitimate case made right there!
You’re making shopping for 24s so much easier with this helpful comparison!
Also one step closer to that 690/701 baby!!!
Multiple objectives, one course of action, eyes on target!
60 years old. Went out yesterday, and totally thrashed out my tricked out 701…… smiles for Miles.
@@SKG1941You my friend, are a cool dude!
@@flyingbriando5521 right back at you
@@flyingbriando5521 If you are looking for a big bore four wheeler,I can help you with that also.Went through 22 belts on three new Can-Am’s plus one belt jammed in the clutches flipped me at 45 miles an hour and that was it. Plus many,many,many expensive repairs.I now have a completely tricked out brute force 750.I installed Elka shocks, Empire duals,Massive brush guard, bigger tires and wheels and warn winch. Probably left out a few things. Doesn’t have quite as much power as a 1000 Can Am but believe me it has a lot more than the 50 they say it does. Put the exhaust on it and clutch kit,really opens it up, hope that helps
I absolutely drive the piss out of my cfmoto. Runs great. Tons of power and all the festures
So happy to see a video from you guys. Was getting worried…..lol. To each their own but I’m not a fan of the China machines. However it looks like in 5 years they maybe #1 in atv sales. Personally I have 4 king quads that our family rides together on. They may not be the best in any one area but for me they never have any issues. Always ready to go. Can take us anywhere we point them. Just a simple, reliable, time tested machine. I sure hope Suzuki doesn’t get out like Kawasaki did with the Brute. As you guys know they are really good machines. The Can Am 700 is a nice new machine and it’s great to see them invest in a new design. Hope Yamaha and Suzuki follow suit. Thanks again for a great video guys. We appreciate you, merry Christmas!
Something to be said for simple, reliable, and time tested! Thank you brother, merry Christmas 🎅
I think the Chinese will force the big brands to adapt both in price and R&D. As the video said, Textron has deep pockets and they can easily invest in this segment when they start to see their profits dry up.
I have a Grizzly and a Rincon. Love my Grizzly, but waiting for Honda to be in this class too with something worthy. All they have to do is add a low gear, locking front diff and EPS to the Rincon and they have my money. Hopefully they will be in next years video. Love your content, you guys are the best!.
Yep, a little polish on the Rincon would be awesome! Thanks brother!
I’m so disappointed with 2025 Honda rubicon 700
Great video as usual guys. When I see a Dirt ObseXXion video pop up on my feed, I pause what I'm doing and click play.
Lol! Thank you brother, I enjoy your videos too and always look forward to your well informed insights in the comments!!!
Great video. You guys always put out quality and I’m here for it! I’m still hoping to get my hands on a scrambler 1000s eventually
Good luck! That's a fun machine. Definitely the only Polaris worth considering in my opinion.
Can’t wait for the outlander 700 vs the king 750
I have been following your channel over the last year to see what new machine i want to land with and I am set on the grizzly 700. Sat on a grizz 700 and a king quad yesterday and the grizzly felt A LOT better. The king quad plastics felt cheap and flexed bad under my weight while climbing onto the machine.
I hope we helped with your search, but you did the most important thing.. Check em out in person and see what "feels" right!
Your ability to put together a video and pack it full of very useful information is unbelievable! 🍻
Ha! Thanks brother! Cheers 🍻 🍺
Awesome video as usual. I've said it before and I'll say it again...all I really need to watch on TH-cam for my powersports content is Dirt Trax and Dirt ObseXXion!!! Nothing else needed. 🍻from 🇨🇦.
Thank you brother! I love those Dirt Trax bois!!! I'd add ATVonDemand too.. Mainly because I'm on their roster of editors :)
Awesome review, thank you! I still like my king quad, 5 years, no repair bills!
Best part about a KQ right there!
Great video as always, keep the content coming. Is there an ETA for a hands on review video of an Outlander 700? I am considering purchasing a 700 XT (the trail focused model), and would love to hear what you think.
Great comparison, I just picked up a new leftover 22 King Quad 750 for $8000 OTD for a base model. With a Kodiac being $10500 and a Grizzly being I’ve $11,000 it was an easy decision for me. So even with Bison bumpers a winch and a Kolpin rear box I’m in it for less than $9k
Can't beat that deal!
Im not a Can-Am guy, but the mew 700 is a game changer.
The saw mount is 30 years overdue. And ike you said, the mod selection and from factory is easy to get. If you live in wet areas, OEM snorkels are just a click away for peace of mind.
Great review, get to ride almost everything at the shop on road tests before the customer is called for pickup. Enjoy listening to your assessment of the details of each machine. Sold 2 out of my 12 machines last week to thin out the herd, but picked up a Warrior project yesterday to fill that empty feeling in my sheds. Did I see some non-oem lettering on that little Moto4 spelling out "panty dropper", or has my age caught up to me? Take care guys, I hope you're all riding at 70 also.
LOL! You read that correctly.. The Moto 4 is a panty dropper! Good luck with the Warrior, I'd love to see that one.. If I ever find a nice mint Warrior I'm grabbing it.
Will let you know when it's done, with a flamed seat cover@@DirtObseXXion
My 2023 outlander max 700XT has so far been honestly trouble free with 1300kms so far. It is a large improvement over my previous 2018 outlander max 570 XT, except in power. No complaints on my purchase.
Great news! Thanks for sharing 👍
Bought a 23 Can-Am 700dps. It's the smoothest riding ATV I've ever ridden. The adjustable dps is awesome. Looked at all the other ATVS in this class and this was the best bang for the buck. Storage space is plentiful, access to the engine compartment is easy. So far no problems whatsoever.
Give it time
@wowdude8244
My Canam always had small issues in the four years I owned it .
First ride out from brand new , lower rad hose fell off , lost all the coolant , one and a half hours from the camp.
Chewed up canam brake pads fast .
Owned my polaris sportsman for 5 years with no similar issues , trouble free.
I’ve talked to lots of very happy CF owners who have years and thousands of KM on them.
The weight of them is off putting as I load into the bed of my truck. When you have two adults, plus gear, food, beer you’re getting near or over max payload of most half ton crew cab trucks. I will occasionally tow my boat too and I am at max payload when the tongue weight is added
The new CanAm is really compelling and I think would get my money if I were to buy today. I’d go 700 Pro XU
Agree, the Outlander is compelling.. Similar weight as the Cfmoto tho
@@DirtObseXXion yea both are pigs. I’d love to see a properly update Rincon, but afraid of what the price would be.
Love my new Outlander 700.
Nice review! Alot of CF Motos sold around my area, price and standard features is the main attraction. Still own and love my 16 Brute Force and am sad to see Kawasaki drop it from there line up.
I was sad to see it go too.. Hopefully they knock it out of the park with whatever is coming next!
The Brute Force is back!! Time for an update comparison video please 🙏
AWESOME! Very well done buddy! Thanx for the info!
Thanks Q! Hope all is well up there brother!
Love the channel guys!
Thank you!
Awesome video! Thank you. Could you please do a video like this but featuring the 400-500cc machines? Love the content keep it coming!
That's the plan! I was waiting for the late releases to show up for 24 so nothing gets left out.
@DirtObseXXion awesome! I'm in the market for my first ATV and you guys have some of the best product reviews on YT. Thanks!
Hey, new subscriber here. I'm sure I've watched at least a few of your vids over the years, but I just acquired a TRX700XX so I've been scouring TH-cam for any vids I can find. I saw the XX in your channel name, and thought for sure there would be some good XX content. I can understand not having any Honda Blackbird content (my other XX) on a dirt channel, but c'mon guys. You need to do a TRX-XX review!
Lol!!! It's true, we need to review one! Honestly, good ones are hard to find and usually go for top dollar.. None of us are fans of quads with irs which is probably the main reason we haven't grabbed one.. We have ridden them and ridden with people who have them and they're great machines!
I really like my CFmoto Cforce 600.
My daughter's got 2 Argo XR500 SE atvs for their birthdays. Great machine, heavy but solid. Same machine as Kymco and same 443cc engine used on Kymco and Arctic Cat 450.
Oh good info, I knew they were TGB but didn't realize Kymco and TGB shared an engine. Makes sense though. A 700 MXU is a solid machine too, just very hard to find.
Will you be making a video on the 2024 brute force?
Yeah I will.. Hopefully by the end of the week
Opinions of CForce 800
Thank you. Intelligent and thorough stuff.
The market for ATVs is just different from what it used to be 20 years ago. UTVs have taken over. It stinks, but I get it--why try to sell a $10k ATV when people are willing to make monthly payments on a $ 35k UTV? I'll always reflect on the old Arctic Cat 500-foot shift and my 650 H1. Those were great ATVs back in the day.
You're absolutely right! I like old school wheelers too, that's why my Moto4 gets a cameo!
Can you pleases do a review on the 700 ARGO le.
How about the Kymco mxu 700i
Great video you hit all the review of the spot on i am curious on some more long term on the outlander reliability
Thanks! I'm curious about the long-term reliability too. I'd guess it will be good, but we'll have to wait and see
they've been using the p drive clutch in their sleds and the 650 motor in their 700 side by sides for a few years now.
2023 Alterra TRV is my favorite all around. 1 year of riding at Iron Mountain Georgia and it has been flawless.
My least favorite in my fleet is my 2023 Polaris Sportsman xp 1000 with ride command, power is great but it made me wish i got the Outlander 1000 or 6x6.
I'd choose the Outlander 1000 X-TP every time! Good to hear a report on the Alterra tho!!
Why don t you like your sportsman?
Have a MY23 Sportsman xp1000 ride command and love it.
Best all around atv from 2015+? been looking at the sportsman 450 and 570 but i don't know as much as you do . im not going to be abusing the atv, just more of riding around the 30 acre property and using it for work like log towing and what not
I'd steer you towards the Suzuki KingQuad in terms the best all around performance, reliability, and value.. The old Sportsman 500s were pretty good but Polaris quality really dropped off over the last 10 years
@@DirtObseXXion thank you very much. ill do my research. Do you have a Patreon that i can sign up to?
Are you guys going to do some reviews on gen 3 700, 850/1000 can ams? You guys do the best reviews bar none.
Do an updated video on the grizzly and king quad. Compare how they have been over time so far.
We bought them to do the video and sold them shortly after..They're keeping the new owners happy
@@DirtObseXXionwhat! No way! I thought you guys used them as personal machines
@JacobOverman We did for a few months.. In order to make videos we can't keep machines around too long. Except for Raptors, I'll always have a Raptor in the garage
I’m in the process of selling my rzr and planning on going back to a atv . It’s either going to be a new outlander 700 dps or kingquad with dps . I don’t need a fancy top of the line atv . Up here in Canada dealers are selling the outlander 700 dps from $10.200-10.700 . kingquad 750 with dps is $11700 . A course that’s before dealer fees and our lovely 13% sales tax . i know the kingquad has a record of being reliable but still undecided on what to buy . Saving a $1000 or more is always nice
My dad has a King Quad, I own a 2024 Outlander Pro XU and a 2020 Grizzly. We both agree the Outlander is the best of 3 in almost every aspect, while coming in very in price.
Do you have any good suggestions for beginner riders in Kentucky
Yep! We're in Kentucky, so you came to the right Channel... What kind of suggestions are you looking for, machines, places to ride, dealerships?
@@DirtObseXXion Thats great! Im looking for some trails that would be good for a beginner, ive mainly done riding on the farm no trail riding before. Thank you for responding
@@HondaRancher420 The big commercial trail areas like Rush, Mine Made, Hollwerwood, and Blue Holler are all pretty much taken over by SXSs.. The trails are rideable but al lot of them will be crowded and rutted. The best ATV trails are in the Daniel Boone i.e. White Sulfur, Redbird Crest, and S tree. If you're further West then, Turkey Bay is pretty fun. If you're further East then you have can get to the Hatfield McCoy trails in WV which is some of the best riding in the Country. We go to Canmer quite a bit, it's small so it's not worth a long drive but if you're near central KY it's worth checking out. Depending on where you're at, Wayne NF in Ohio, Interlake OHV in Indiana, and Ride Royal Blue in TN are pretty fun.
@@DirtObseXXion thats a lot of information i really appreciate it. I will definitely try out Redbird Crest trail when the weathers nice. Not to far from Cranmer either so i will have to try that too.
I have a 2005 honda rincon , no cvt. No belt slip runs and start in -25 northern Quebec weather, but the girls getting old. Value are my biggest wants. I’m thinking king quad with power steering or the outlander 700. Any thought please help
Nice list of mid displacement contenders for 24! Not surprised to see the Honda Rincon disappear. I really wish Honda would step up their game in the ATV market. Yamaha and Can-Am have some strong models for 24 though !
Yamaha will have the privilege of being mounted by a Viking in 24!
@@DirtObseXXion lol true! Support the companies that support ATV racing and recreation! Yamaha does a lot for the off-road community!
2023 kingquad here! Only bought it after watching your grizzly vs kingquad video
Congratulations brother! Great machine! Hope you're enjoying it!!!
Excellent comparison
i went with the outlander 500 dps instead of the 7oo to save some $. so far it's been excellent.i added a bumper,handguards,usb and helmet heater plugs and mirrors,fender flares and a 3500# winch and still came in under 13k canadian.best of all,all my wheels/tires from my commander fit on the outlander,so i have mud/trail/snow tires that i can swap.
Sweet deal! Glad to hear that it's been good!
Curious about the outlander 500 and why Can Am included a de-tuned model. Do you know if it's clutched differently, or if the power starts at lower rpms making it more work oriented than the 700? Cheers!
Just bought a can am 700 outlander xt. And it's absolutely amazing
I came from a Kymco MXU 500 IRS and wanted more. Especially more cylinders. I got a can am outlander 570 with that amazing 650 two cylinder Rotax engine. Unlocked it, so it got the power of the bigger chassis outlander 650. It is a fabulous machine and makes me smile every ride. So I was and still am very skeptical with can am’s move to drop the two cylinder models in the smaller displacement class. I get the price point, but on the other hand ist was their usp. Enough for me to update to can am. I guess you drove both the 2 cylinder 650 and the new 1 cylinder 700 for quite some time. Which would you consider the better engine? I feel like downgrading if I would buy a new outlander 700 engine wise. Love the new style though.
The single is a step down from the 650 twin 100%.. It was a business decision for CanAm to compete with the current market while streamlining production. Can't blame them for it, and the ne Outty's are nice.. But there intended to compete in this class. 570 and 650 twin Outlander owners will probably find these a little underwhelming power/performance-wise..
I will be personally looking at the Argo XRT atvs. Made in North America and for some reason often forgot and the prices are way better.
Would like to see a head to head comparison between the canam outlander 700 and the kawasaki brute force 750
Would it be better to group the atvs by price instead of displacement? For $9100, the can am and grizzly compete with the cforce 800 rather then the 600.
For $11000, that’s a cforce 1000 otd price
Another great video and all great points made. Cant stand when i click on a video and I hear Rosey the robot reading a script 😡. Here at Odyssey Offroad we also know all about crippling debt to support our ATV obsession 😅
Lol! Thanks Joe! I know that's true since our garages look very similar!
@@DirtObseXXion 👊🏻
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Sehr sehr gutes und informatives Video 👍
Mein Favorit ist und bleibt der Grizzly Bär.
Mine too!
Been happy with my 2021 cfmoto 600 pulls my boat to the water in and out no problem great on the trails over 2000 miles with no problems so far. It's my 5th wheeler and seems well put together But nothing will compare to my old Arctic Cat 300 with 16000 miles on it.
700cc single cyl Honda ATV comming out after Jan1st. I just talked to dealer
I really hope you are correct. If so they will sell tons of them. Everyone really wants to buy Honda, but just aren't impressed with their current offerings. Please Honda get in the game!
Blah, blah, blah…
Great video. Don’t really have anything to say just want to help out the channel by commenting. Just one thing, the Grizzly with the 27 zilla square setup is marginal at best for trial riding. Please, Yamaha, change the tires!!!!!!
Thanks brother! The comments do help! Agree about the Zillas too
My base model 2024 Outlander 700 had a shipping weight rate on the paperwork that said 744 lb
I own an 05 KQ and 08 Grizz, love em both. Grizzly has a much better suspension setup, and the new ones also have temp and volage gauges, something lacking on Suzuki, as well as a Park gear. But the quality and durability of the KingQuad, and oh, I just can't get over the face on how smooth that engine runs. It's not the 722 single, mine has the 695 Single DOHC, and it's so damn smooth.
Agree with all.. The 722 is very smooth too.. Surprisingly smooth for a single and very low compression which probably makes it one of the most bullet proof motors ever produced.
@@DirtObseXXion yeah, I would love to test drive a new one and see how the suspension compares, but I don't really have time or easy access.
@@FullsendOffroad The suspension was stiffened to combat some of the front end dive the old ones had, it does that pretty well but still has very limited suspension travel. The Grizzly rides and handles much better, better powersteering, but I still like KQ
@@DirtObseXXion My KingQuad has no EPS, so I can't speak for it, but yes, the Grizzly has much better handling and comfort, largely due to the front suspension being mounted to the lower control arm, as oppose to the Upper arm on the KingQuad. Over really rough therrain, the KingQuad can be a slight pain in the ass. But a huge thing to mention is that the KIngQuad is a DOHC, which allows it to run much smoother, and be more powerful in both low and high end. I haven't tried getting my Grizzly to 60 yet, but my KingQuad was doing 62 and it still wanted to go more. It's an extreme powerhouse.
King Quad 750
My son has a 270 kymco. I was wondering what is a good utility for him to move into. He’s gonna be 15.
That's a good question but it's kinda hard recommend something without context.. Is he riding with you, what are you on how big, mature, competent as a rider is he, and what does he want? Very well could be time to just go full size so you don't have buy again in 2 years.. if it's going to be a utility, I'm a big fan of the Kodiak 450s and KingQuad 400 or 500.. The 500 size-wise is the same as the 750.. The 400 is a little smaller
I like the Kodiak too
I was looking for a kingquad but finally bought a 700 xmr because of the cheaper price. I m hard on it and it seem to be reliable... I m alway wot in the trail and the engine is starting to have a ticking noise but nothing to worry about. The thermostat is odd on those atv. It can take 15 min to get to its running temp... The front and rear drive shaft connect to the same shaft in the transmission, which cause a rotationnal force on the rubber engine mount. If you re beating on it, you can alway hear the engine stopper on top of the cylinder head hitting the frame because of that... And one last thing, normally on every atv or sxs, if you mesure the lower vs the upper a arm lenght( from bushing to ball joint) you will find the lower being longer than the upper which is normal geometry... But on the outlander 700, the upper is longer front and rear. They did that to have a better roll center in the turn and get more suspension travel by having better cv angle but the track width change is very bad because of that so when you re going fast in the bump, it s very hard to keep the atv straight.
Interesting stuff about the arms and handling! Glad it's reliable tho!
What about Segway Snarler AT6 Limited. Isn't it a better buy than at least CFMOTO or Arctic Cat?
Couldn't honestly couldn't tell you. Haven't seen any in the U.S. at all. In Canada it might worth looking at but I have no way of comparing it to a CFMOTO or AC. The downside would be more significant that argo, very hard to find, no aftermarket support, limited parts availability... The only way I'd consider one is if there was dealer within 20 minutes.
@@DirtObseXXionthanks for reply. I'm a bit surprised, as I thought Segway was originally a US company. Segway dealers are very common in Europe, just as common as Polaris, Can Am, or CFMOTO. It's actually harder to find Yamaha or Suzuki ATV dealer :-)
@NotTheRest I figured they'd be here by now too.. Lots in Canada but I searched Google when I saw your comment and didn't see anything in the U.S. Doesn't mean there aren't some outliers, but they're certainly hard to find.. I don't like to include machines in lists that I haven't at least thoroughly checked out in person if not reviewed
@@DirtObseXXion of course, mate! I totally gry it. I'm also here for the high quality content based on real world experiences that you provide!
@@DirtObseXXion Even in Canada, almost all the Segway dealers are in the eastern half of the country (Ontario and Quebec mainly). Out west here there are only a couple dealers, so Segway isn't even on my list as I consider a purchase in the next month or two.
You guys need to try out the TGB BLADE /TARGET 600 . Will be those 600s from A/c and CF MOTO
The Target looks pretty cool!
@@DirtObseXXion they are wild , way more fun than a renegade
Thanks for great content 🤙
Thanks for checking it out!
Good job on the video.
Thanks!
I’ve done my part over the last several years to keep atvs alive !
3 Brutes
1000 Sportsman
KQ 750
Grizzly 700
And now Outty 1000R.
Sad about the Brute 😢
Solid list Joe! Hope you're loving the outty XT!
@@DirtObseXXion I edited that was supposed to say part not past . Yea it’s super nice but I don’t like some fit and finish things and the loud *** whirring sound from the rear end .
Great info Chad...👍
Thanks 👍
P.S. the shifter needs to be on the left for snow plowing and a brake lever for each hand
The KQ is probably the highest performer, its shorter giving it a sportier ride and weighs less. So power to weight is going to play a role i think.
Yeah I agree with that.. I literally had this video completely done and then Suzuki released the KingQuad.. So it probably didn't get it's fair shake
Not true the outlander is by far the best performer, most powerful and best handling
@firstoutlander the outlander is a good machine, but best handling, not so much. Especially a gen 1.
I've driven 1st and 2nd gen 650's and 570's too. The KQ is by far sportier on the winding forestry roads. Not to mention separate front and rear brakes making a controlled drift much easier.
My current ATV is a twin with 28+ more HP than the KQ 850, and again, I'm not talking power, the KQ was easier to manage at speed through the winding roads with confidence. Because a controlled drift is always better than relying on HP the throw the back end out.
And my KQ always beat an outty 650 out of the hole. But not for very long.
@@EC_ATV_Outdoors Every test so far has the outlander beating everything in it class in power and handling even at a lower cost.
@@firstoutlander again, I haven't ridden the specific new 500/700. But I'm just going off my experiences as an owner, and rider.
But at the end of the day, all I can say is that the KQ is a sportier ride due to weight, power, length, and brakes.
So you can argue my reality all you want, but you can't change it over a video online lol.
And if you read through any of my comments on the new 700, I'm actually impressed by the new design and might actually get me to own a canam for once.
The 500 Outlander technically has a 650cc as well sooooo, value wise for a dps model is pretty darn good.
Great video guys still loving the grizzly though
Thanks AJ! You know I'm a Grizzly fan too!
@@DirtObseXXion i absolutely do brother. Watching you and cubbyzx is what got me to wanting one. Nothing like guitars guns and atv’s
@@ajjacobs1338 Trifecta of awesome 👌
so i had an argo 1000, traded it in. hard to get parts, like a tie rod, something so simple and no delivery or available time. a month to get an oil filter, got a Polaris 1000 ride command sportsman.
That's a good point to consider for sure, thank you! Love hearing from the actual owners perspective!
No mention of Polaris why
Too many bad experiences with Polaris, both personally owned and test units.. I don't recommend them
@@DirtObseXXion I am with you on the Polaris front. Talking to my local Can-am dealer, he personally owns two identical model/year Polaris Sportsman 570 machines. One has spent more time in the shop than on the trail, while the other has needed nothing but a new battery! It is exactly that type of inconsistent quality control that steers me away from Polaris. North American built doesn't mean good quality, just like Chinese/Taiwanese built doesn't mean bad quality.
I'm really thinking seriously about replacing my sportsman 570 touring with a 700 commander xt max...you should do a 2up video 😊
I can do that
Have you heard anything about the new Honda TRZ I’ve been hearing they filed a patent for this name and I’m hoping it’s a new big bore ATV but I won’t hold my breath because it could be anything.
No I haven't heard anything about it.. Interesting
@@DirtObseXXion I seen it on the Honda pro Kevin you tube channel and a friend of mine that works at a Honda dealership told me something new was coming but that’s all he could tell me. Hopefully more information will be available soon.i will continue to dig and search and hope lol
@@hummyhero1484 Let me know if you find anything! I'll do a video as soon as something is made public.. if it's cool 😎
@@DirtObseXXion yes sir I sure will
i seen your review on rmatv on the terraforms with that said out of these shown in the video i still stand by my initial comment/s made on your grizzly and kingquad video from months ago and maybe the cf moto and personally i think the back rack sucks on those canned hams lol and lastly ya didnt include the sportsman 570's they have 700 class power and would probably whip half the ones in this video lol ive been lookin at different ones every s often and gonna try to get somethin sometime next year after ive gotten my credit built back up i just dont know what yet but ive got plenty of time to make up my mind
No I specifically left the Sportsman out because it will be in the next video. Honestly, I'm more comfortable recommending every other ATV on this list over the Sportsman anyway..
@@DirtObseXXion fair enough
IMHO, as am AC owner too, I'd buy another one, reliable, well built, and low maintenance.
BUT... Textton has shit the bed and seem to be smoking they're neighbours (Polaris) msrp crack pipe these days. Textrin has priced themselves out of sales.
Pleases do a review on the argo 700 le quad.😂
I tried, Argo said they don't do media units in the US.
@DirtObseXXion ok thanks. I live here in Ontario Canada. Love your content keep up the great work. 👍
@@Scott-w4v Thanks!
@@DirtObseXXion If Argo doesn't deal with media in North America, that could explain their lackluster market penetration. I honestly didn't even know Argo built ATV's until I started researching for my upcoming purchase a few weeks ago. If they don't work on some marketing, they won't be around long.
09 Grizzly 550 7500 miles has been bulletproof Yamaha should still sell them.
Great content. I have been in the market for a new quad and was ready to pull the trigger on the Can Am 700, until I heard about teething issues with the new platform, especially problems with high altitude operation. And since I live at 7000 ft in Colorado and mostly go higher than that, AND alot of the time by myself, having those types of problems are a big no to the Can Am. But I found a great deal ( less than 10k out the door) on a 24 Grizzly EPS about 4 hours away. Picking it up on Tuesday.
Never heard of any problems with high altitude according to my friend in the Rockies, matter of fact he said that’s why he got the xt700 because of the fuel injection compensation for the altitude. So far my dealer in Ct says that’s what he sells the most and hasn’t had any issues yet, says he sold over 200 since 2023.
@@firstoutlander Thats good to hear, but I couldn't be happier with my new Griz, I do wish Can Am well with their new platform, but at $9300 out the door before taxes was a no brainer for the Yamaha that I know wont let me down, I frkn LOVE the grizzly.
My choice would be the Yamaha Grizzly.
Me too
Why is everyone saying Kawasaki dropped the brute force? The redesigned Brute is currently on there website. Its the same machine just a new body for a starting price at $9,999
Because they just released it a few weeks ago, afterthis video was published.. When they originally announced the 24 lineup it wasn't included.
@@DirtObseXXion oh ok i gave up on Kawasaki a long time ago because all the did was increase the price with no improvements.
The Yamaha machines are the lightest and most reliable. They cost more because they are worth more. My 2008 Grizzly 700 runs like new despite having been run hard in steep nasty terrain. Don’t be fooled by bigger horsepower numbers on heavier machines. You will want to be on a lighter one when it rolls over on top of you.
Also crazy news. If you guys haven't heard, Kawasaki just released a brand new 750 Brute. We all though we had to wait for 2025 for another Brute Force but here it is already.
They did exactly what Suzuki did in 2019 but in 2024 with LEDs and a color display. However Suzuki did change some internal engine and clutching components, mainly cooling. I like the new BF750 look but it still has the short end of the stick vs the KQ and Grizzly
@@district12tribute28 I'd say Kawasaki may be the right choice, even above KQ and Grizzly. It has all round LED's, a twin engine, color blurtooth display STANDARD, and that's for 10k without power steering. It's baffling. It is mainly the same machine with suspension, but in 2019 Suzuki still didn't do all too much with the clutching, frame, and suspension, they just tweaked all of those things.
@@FullsendOffroad I would put it far above the grizzly which I believe it was before due to Yamaha’s disappointing fit and finish issues in the newer grizzly (2016 to present). The Bruteforce and Kingquad have always been my favorites, despite the new screen and LEDs the Bruteforce still has the same issues it’s had for years. Besides the screen Suzuki still definitely outpaces it. For example, I think it’s very hard to justify no factory hitch receiver on a 2024 UTILITY atv. For me it’s definitely Kawasaki and Suzuki running the game. It would be nice to see Suzuki put one of their motorcycle vtwins in the Kingquad though 👀
@@district12tribute28 Yamaha's fit and finish still is on the same level as Polaris and Can Am. It's really the only issue, and once that gets fixed, Grizzly is best for me. The suspension is way better than KingQuad (I've never driven a Brute) and In general I feel that the Grizzly is just more well rounded. Kawasaki has always had some issues here and there. Suzuki is flawless in fit and finish and reliability, as well as the engine, but it lacks in tech, suspension, and storage. Yamaha's CVT also has park gear, which Brute Force and KingQuad lack. I'm glad to see the Brute force making big upgrades, and Suzuki has to catch up. The Main disappointment in the new Brute I'd say is not the hitch but rather that they didn't upgrade the suspension or frame much. Suzuki was similar in 2019, with just making minor suspension and frame adjustments. I'd still say Grizzly is top of its class, but it needs more power. I'd love to see a 750 Grizzly with a smoother running engine. But 700cc is still a lot and I love my 08 Grizzly and I'd buy a new one any day if I had the money. *I'd say that all three quads are absolutely awesome in their different ways and there is no objective winner. They're all equally good and the rest is just up to personal preference.* And I'd absolutely love to see an 800 KingQuad with the parallel twin from the V-strom. Also an 850 V-twin Grizzly with a wolverine engine would be cool as well.
@@FullsendOffroad Comparing 2024 models of them all I’d have KQ and Bruteforce tied and Yamaha behind both. Like I said I’m constantly around all of them except for the 2024 Kawasaki obviously but the Kingquad is definitely the most well rounded. Slightly better suspension than Bruteforce but no where near on the grizzly. The grizzly is comparable to Polaris on the new models but everywhere else it falls short besides color ways. The displays all show essentially the same information not including the new Brute. I will say the Kingquad and Kawasaki are significantly more powerful than the grizzly 50hp vs 47. The Bruteforce however despite the same horsepower laughably blows them both out of the water. Until you have ridden one it’s not really understandable, the Bruteforce feels like a 850. Overall Yamaha Suspension\handling, Kawasaki for motor and Suzuki for everything in between. I agree 100% about a vstorm engine in a Kingquad but I don’t expect it. I’m planning on switching to a 2024 Kawasaki soon as I have a 2021 Kingquad which before I had a 18 Grizzly and before that 2012 Bruteforce. They are all so near peer it’s hard to decide but I have Kawi and Zuki out ahead, the vtwin Bruteforce is nuts and the Kingquad is already so well rounded that the DOHC and better fit and finish are both more attractive than the Grizzly in today’s market. Like I said though I can’t put more of an emphasis on the Kawasaki vtwin it’s like a 392 vs a SUV
Click on one of those trash ai videos at least once a week😂. Keep up the good work gentlemen!
Lol! Welcome back to the real world!
If Kawasaki drops a quality single-cylinder release/replacement for the Brute Force I will buy it. If you look at Kawasaki as a whole and you see how far they have moved away from the ATV market, it seems unlikely that this will happen. Trying to stay positive though.
Great review... HOWEVER 😂 I would argue till I'm blue in the face that the grizzlies reliability is no where close to the king quad...
The KQ is as reliable or maybe more reliable than a Honda.. this is proven over an over again. Even in any atv forum people will back my claim.
Even on TH-cam there are people switch from the troubles grizzlies to a king quad..
Not to mention the fit an finish on ANY Yamaha as of late is just trash.
I was think about picking up a new can am Pro XU HD7 to try out but I'm seeing lots of gremlins ...
IMHO the king will always be king Even though it's long in the tooth..but there's a reason..don't fix something that isn't broke..plus I love the looks of a KQ
Hard to argue against the King Quad, it's incredible well rounded and extremely reliable.
New KQ colors for 2024 are out
Yeah I put a few of them in this video at the last minute.. Added hand guards this year, I really like the gray/blue on the SE
Team cfmoto!!
Best atvs Nomenclature should not be used on brand new and new models because they are not tested to see if their best or junk.. 5 years down the road after consumers input ect ect You could have a best and worst title!
No honda?
The Honda lineup came out for 2024 and the Rincon wasn't part of it. It's still on the website as a 23 model
@@DirtObseXXion will you have shown the lineup from midsize machines including the China crop and you know that there's a 520 Honda come on what kind of propaganda is that I mean it Compares big time don't you think or maybe it just doesn't compare
@@pepperspray4144 🤔
@@pepperspray4144Huh??
cant understand why the japanese dont put out a big bore sport 4 wheel drive like polaris and can am
I'm not sure either.. I thought it was an older motorcycle engine import tax on imports over 750cc.. That was Regan Era tariff that Harley Davidson petitioned for.. But Argo and CFMOTO figured it out so.. 🤷♂️
Yamaha Grizzly 700 XRT all the way!👍👏🥩🥩
Arctic cat , cf moto, 😂 I ll take a rubicon 2024 anytime before any of this shit, except I think youre pretty damn on with the kingquad
I’ll go with the Can-Am, better handling, more power, more towing, very smooth driving, more features at a better price. No brainer to me.