Hi, Jessi Lee Lance here - Lorie Lee Lance was my first cousin. She died three years before I was born and I was never very close with the Lance side of my family, but ever since I heard about her I wish that I could have known her. I can’t tell you how much it means for this story to be getting more publicity and I really appreciate your analysis. I’ve been watching your videos for years and literally gasped when I saw this video pop up in my feed. I can tell you my family has never believed for a second that man was innocent. My mom recalls how he treated Lorie and how she seemed scared around him. She deserved so much more and she should still be alive today. Thank you again, Dr. Grande, for covering this story so eloquently and respectfully. Means a lot and I will be sharing it with my family.
I'm a psychologist and now whenever I'm doing case notes I hear Dr Grande's voice narrating as I write. It actually helps structure my notes more cogently.
Duly noted. Although I could never leave my loved ones behind to die. I would rather die trying to save them... but then again, fire is hot and we truly don't know how we'll react in unknown situations that might be futile.
Try it some time. I've walked out of a burning house (in time, obviously). Once you're outside, there's no going back. The heat has to be experienced to be believed. It's like a wall, impossible for an unprotected human to pass through. I don't think any sane person could do it. As for rescues, take them with you when you get out, and don't fantasize that you can go back for them later.
I hate it when police and/or jurors say that lack of expression of emotion is an indicator of guilt. Based on what?! As diverse as people are, there are that many ways to feel and express the many emotions that might arise during a crisis or tragedy. In addition, lawyers and advisors advise clients on how to appear and act during questioning and judicial proceedings. And finally, most lay people who profess to have read an accused person's mind have no idea of what they are talking about and often conclude some traits in the opposite way that the traits indicate.
You are correct about emotions. I have witnessed the full spectrum of reactions to horrible situations from family and friends in traumatic events. Years of working in the emergency department have taught me to not judge. Observe, but do not assume.
Correct. The Casey Anthony case comes to mind. Her out partying when her daughter is missing and not being sad about it is not evidence of guilt. Jury got that one right though. The state thought they had it in the bag and failed big time.
Typically, people in shock don't cry or express grief. Shock is an evolutionary adaptation that prevents people from crumbling into a useless heap during a dangerous situation. The shock continues for some time after the chaos has subsided; there's a _lag time._ I wonder how many people have been filmed in this state and juries have attributed their behaviour to a "lack of empathy"? _Prolonged_ lack of emotions, observed by people who _know the individual_ are a different story entirely, but even then we must be aware that not everyone expresses their grief in an explicit and obvious way. There's also a big difference between someone who doesn't cry much and someone who goes on a spending spree with life insurance money, finds a new partner within weeks and who starts partying 3 days after the funeral. Actions speak louder than emotions, or lack thereof.
@@Bulldog13368 I spend a lot of time in the ER, and my demeanour often throws the staff off until they realize that. I can be in really bad shape (I have extremely severe MCAS, and at times have had 5-6 anaphylactic reactions per day! I also have a myriad of other health issues). I’ve been sick my whole life, and you learn to hide it. Intuitive and or experienced paramedics, nurses and doctors do fine, because they’ve seen the full range before. The non-intuitive initiates on the other had, when I say ‘there is something really wrong’, dismiss me because I don’t look that bad. It took a return the next day, did tests, and it turned out I actually fractured two veritbrae from a spinal infection, and had a systemic blood infection, too. Even that time the doctors were shocked. I said “I told you it was 10/10 pain at one point today.” and he responded “And I believed you, you moved like you were in horrible pain, but you seemed too calm about it.”. “Yeah, because I’ve been here a few times before.”. (I was stunned when I learned it was actually fractured, I thought I’d pulled a muscle, or blown a disk at most). So yes, people process things differently. Sometimes the tiniest thing will toss someone into hysterics, but someone with a massive ugly thing is totally in control.
@@karenneill9109 Hello Karen, In all my years as a EMT in the ED I only cared for one young girl with this syndrome. I am so sorry that you not only have to struggle with this illness, but on top of that you have fight to receive the proper treatment. With your case being so severe, it is important to remain as calm as possible. Hopefully the staff will educate themselves about MCAS and your needs. Thank you for sharing your experiences with me.
Law and Order: SVU did an episode like this, but with a father and children. The fire Marshall thought he noticed pour patterns, and an expert duplicated the exact circumstances of the original fire. It had started from a space heater in the girls' bedroom, I believe.
Good morning Dr. Grande & audience! Proud Patreon supporter here! Tysm for your videos and such extreme dedication to your viewers, this was really so unbelievably terrible…… 😭💔
The only difference I can see in America and other countries might be that America probably goes overboard in airing its dirty laundry, or some might think they don't air it enough. I have lived in 3 other countries. Most countries, especially the most homogeneous ones, take national pride a bit more seriously.
@@daisylotus808 I have lived and worked Afghanistan, Qatar, South Korea. I have been to and visited many more countries. I also pay attention to foreign media more so than most. I have much respect for Indians. If they could rid their country of corruption, the caste system, and creeping Islam; the entire world would benefit from India. The greatest thing that has come from eastern thought is *mindfulness* and meditation. For the untrained mind, it is a life changing skill, and it is worth my time. Dr Grande is a great man, no doubt. I do not consider him a guru of mind, or helping reduce the misery of our conscious experience though.
Dr. Grande, I like that you mentioned women who write to and/or strike up relationships with, and even marry men in prison, even convicted murderers (like Ted Bundy; yeah, he was smart and fairly good-looking, but still…), even ones they had never met before. I would love it if you would do a video on the psychology of these women, because, really, I just don’t understand it. Personally, I can’t even imagine having a relationship like that.
Dr Grande, I'm sure you've been asked already, but could you maybe do an speculation on the Athena Strand case? She's like little 7 year old girl murdered by a FedEx driver just recently. Such a sad case.
Dr Grande! Please do a video on the former Playboy playmate Stephanie Adams murder suicide story, she killed her 7 year old son by pushing him out of 25th floor balcony then jumped off to kill herself right after him! This is so tragic & crazy, would love to know your thoughts! Thanks for all the videos! Ellie
As soon as I looked it up, I checked for a divorce or separation, and yep. Sadly, it is not unheard of for parents in a custody battle to take the life of the child as a real “screw you” to the former spouse. Or a sort of “if I can’t have him, no one will.” Very sad. I can’t imagine doing that to my child. I was fully prepared to move anywhere to be near him if I ever lost custody (highly unlikely but never impossible). So far, I have had sole legal and physical custody of both my kids from infancy. Look up Arthur Freeman if you want another tragic, very famous case. Also Josh Powell. The Skelton brothers are probably another instance, although they are “missing” and it remains unsolved. There are many other cases that were not as famous. If you google “child murder divorce custody” you will find a lot of info on blogs, in articles, and on websites that analyze studies and reports on the phenomenon. It’s rare, but happens often enough for people to run studies on.
I’m a professional painter. And I have never removed the smoke detector. Now with saying that. Mayb they were doing the painting themselves and did remove it due to not having a lot of knowledge with painting. But it is just so much more difficult to remove it. U just paint around it. Just a thought.
yay thhank you for the vids. they have been really on point, 2022 was a great year for you. you changed your background again!! remember when your set was at a desk?? cheers
There is always confusion on the distinction between "not guilty," or a verdict that is overturned, and innocence. An absence of evidence does not equal "innocent". Also, a career fire fighter is expert testimony. If he said he noticed a "U" shaped discoloration in the burn and it stuck out like a red flag, I think he was speaking from experience, quite possibly the experience that doesn't necessarily show up in academic research. I think this is related to Malcolm Gladwell's "Blink" experience.
Agree. This is similar to a veteran detective who believes a crime scene is staged. He's seen so many real ones that anomalies in a staged scene stand out to him.
Good morning Dr Grande, good analysis. I too heard about the change in investing fires. Which is a good idea. Always learn from your videos. Make Thursday a great day!
As we well know: correlation does not substantiate causation. Being an abusive man with a criminal history doesn’t make someone a murder. And many people who have committed murder were otherwise seen as pillars of their community- or at least were better behaved than the subject of your analysis. Nonetheless, the dry humor was well played as usual. It seems there is mixed message in your opinion that he was guilty vs. your Humored closing statements suggesting that anyone caught in such a scenario is pretty much doomed if they do get out alive and someone else parishes. To me, the biggest pieces of evidence proving his innocent are that though he was initially convicted because the door was said to be locked and the pseudoscience of pour patterns- both were proved wrong later. Also- no true motive. He may have gotten something out of being controlling of her but didn’t get anything out of her death. It seems to me that if he did want to kill her he would’ve done it in a fit of rage - not in the early morning hours. I can see anyone , and especially a woman like myself, who is attached to something in the house, running away from the door in an effort to get that something. He had already sustained burns, and probably imagined that she was going to make her way back out initially…springing into action when he realized that she hadn’t come out. Lastly I have fallen asleep watching TV and failed to take my cloths off once i made my way to bed. Now- I’m off to make sure the fire alarm was finally put back with a working battery in it. Thank you Dr. Grande!
So....your theory of murder is that he locked her in the utility room and set things afire? If he were doing that, why would it be necessary to bother to disconnect the fire detector? The question is simple: If the door was locked from the outside it was murder, if not, then there's no reasonable way to call it murder -- especially since there was apparently no evidence that she was knocked unconscious or otherwise restricted from trying to escape. If she didn't trust him (a reasonable conclusion from the ancillary evidence of their relationship and his character) she may very well have not have trusted him enough to be dragged by him through fire! People certainly CAN do completely irrational things in extreme moments.
Can you please consider doing a video on Mitchell Heisman? It’s the most uncomfortable story I’ve ever heard. Would love to hear your thoughts on him and his 2000 page suicide note.
Things have to make sense and add up. And this simply doesn't. The only way out of the house was through the front door. Claude was leading her out the front door when she suddenly broke away and ran toward the back of the house? It makes absolutely no sense for someone to do that.
Normally it wouldn’t, but the defense can always say she was running to grab a family heirloom or something valuable. People have been known to do this during fires. I know that if I’m in a fire and I could grab my family photo album. I would definitely try.
@@chipmunkred1519 I get that. But you wouldn't run into the laundry room. What was she doing? Trying to get the washer and dryer out of the house? I completely understand what you're saying though. But I don't believe that was the defense they presented. But you make a very good point.
@@mtp4430 😂😂 ok You’re right I’m sure she wasn’t going for the washer and dryer. We’re all more than sure he did it. I’m just playing devils advocate. But the defense can always say she went back for something valuable and ended up in that room from smoke installation or because she couldn’t see. There’s just too much reasonable doubt in this case.
As you were going over this case I had Todd Willingham in mind. Another awful case but this one concerning children. This one is also bot clear cut. Initially the wife supported him and didn't think he had anything to do with it, but over the years she changed her mind. It's an interesting one and I'd like to hear your thoughts on it Dr. Grande.
Terrible story for the victim! Always appreciate the way you lay everything out in each video, and then so thoughtfully share your ideas on the subject matter! ♡♡ Had th laugh at the "Ferocious potato salad attacks...." 😅
I can get behind not victim blaming here but it seems like her decision making was lets say 'not of the highest standard' when she was alive, and panic makes you have even worse decision making. Can totally see how she ended up there trying to 'hide from the fire' and then died as a total freak accident without anyone having murderous intent. There's definitely a reasonable doubt in my mind.
Perhaps the fire was in the front room, and she was too scared to go past it to get to the front door. With the heavy smoke, it would be hard to see where one is going, so she missed other ways to escape. When we lived in the 'burbs, our next door neighbor's house burned to the ground. It was amazing how quickly that fire spread and consumed the house. Fortunately, no one was home. It was probably due to a faulty electric circuit. They were doing work on their kitchen at the time.
She has tried to break up with him 6 months prior. So.. there's some decision making skills.. She did not succeed, probably had been stalked and harrassed for months... and I don't think for a second that she had not saw at least a movie or something picturing a fire in the house and what people are supposed to do in that situation. Even cartoons show that. No, she is not to blame in any circumstances. Plus, being with a bully and a sociopath does damage cognitive skills. Still not her fault.
@@GeorgideMarne That's the point. In an accident it's no one's fault. Is he guilty of being a dirtbag, for sure, is he a murderer? There's a reasonable doubt. I feel like the point of Dr Grande's video was about how a list of similar assumptions and fake science can be used to 'prove' something when it proved nothing.
@@JaxonHaxon I live in France. There is a term in the penal code that roughly translates to "failure to help or assist a person in danger" and yes, you could go to jail for that. No ambivalence.. Not 30 years but still... No, Dr Grande clearly said that he thinks he was guilty, maybe not directly but by crass negligence surely.
Several States have in the last few months.I believe the city together with the State of New York paid 36 million dollars to an innocent man very recently. It may have been the result of a jury, I do not know.
Your reputation in your community is the most important thing in the world people don't give the benefit of Doubt to people they don't like. How many people like Bill Cosby committed crimes for years because nobody could believe he was capable of it and how many people are sitting in prison for a crime they didn't commit because everybody couldn't see how they weren't capable of doing it.
Claude lied that the woman didn't want to leave the house on fire and managed to escape his pulling her arm to get her out. She was so worried to be physically harmed by Claude if she didn't check on him at the bar regularly yet she was not worried to be harmed by a fire. He's guilty hence the lie.
Good afternoon, Dr. Grande! Indeed, Claude was an unpleasant character and morally, if not legally, guilty of his girlfriend's murder. I doubt that he planned the fire and when it broke out, he figured every man for himself and devil take the hindmost. That was his girlfriend's misfortune. He felt that he was safe, and that was fine by him. His two convictions were based on his vile nature and history, rather than the fire investigators' dubious findings. And they were pretty questionable at best or incompetent at worst. And having "disabled" fire detectors is not that uncommon. as some people might take the batteries out of them to use them for other purposes or they might be located in such places where kitchen stoves, ovens and clothes dryers might set them off each time those appliances are used. At best he was guilty of depraved indifference to human life, but that is not what he was charged with.
The other thing is, if he was going to disable a smoke detector, why would he put it on the drier? Literally _anything_ else would have made more sense: like slightly disconnecting the battery and remounting the detector, or throwing the detector away entirely. The fact that the rear door wasn't locked also creates doubt, as does the testimony of apparently incompetent fire "experts". Anyone who thinks the state proved it's case here should never be on a jury. I personally don't care about Claude Garret and his fate. He was a monster jerk and it's close to impossible to sympathise with such a person. It's about the application of criminal justice generally.
I assume you are the unpaid mindreader , priest, and defense attorney that lost the case. . Because there is no professional title next to your identity. With out a professional title I can not stomach reading beyond the 4th sentence. Maybe you are one of John Eastman’s lay assistants. A good man to hide behind. To claim a wish is in fact. So many weak losers delusional voting. I guess it is highly contagious.
There are so many couples in America who have very toxic relationships who don't torch each other. Neighbors already had it in their minds who Claude was on a moral level. If there had been an insurance policy involved or another man/woman something big to lose etc... possibly.
A friend's ex-girlfriend, who we all loved, was raped, stabbed and murdered by a guy she broke up with. He then set the house on fire. She was still alive at that point but unable to move and was apparently in and out of consciousness. He then decided it would look bad, so ran in to get her out and she died, horrifically, in his arms, on the front lawn as the house burned. She was about to leave to go back to the UK and her family after 20 years here. Such a sweet, sweet woman. I'm so very sorry Lori suffered in this way and was taken from the family. It's heartbreaking.
Dang, RIP Lori. Unimaginable horrors happen to good people and those close to them have to suffer with the pain of sorting out why. I am very sorry for your loss and the pain your former lady friend had to endure, may she rest in peace and you find some solace in sharing her story in hopes of preventing such evil in the future.
It's quite easy to perform experiments to ascertain how fires behave in certain circumstances. Fire inspectors need to be scientifically rigorous if they want to be taken seriously. Same goes for blood splatter, bite mark, foot print and tire mark analysts, medical examiners and CSI dog handlers. There's so much fluffery in all these areas and enough is enough. This shit needs to be sorted out and made scientific.
Let me speculate for a second: When they got home, at some point, Claude and his girlfriend had an argument. He punished her by locking her in the utility room, then he went to bed. He awoke to a fire and escape the house. He was too afraid of the fire to try to go back in till others arrived. His strange behavior was because he knew he had left the girlfriend locked in the house. I wonder if the authorities pursued that possiblity.
What is bothersome is that too often, as in this case, these kind of guys find naive professional "innocence" believers even professionals as journalists (like here: Segura) or often folks from innocence projects who presume everyone with a sob story innocent and are a disgrace to the rest of us lawyers who truly try to finde the shades of grey in which the truth more often than not is written.
Good morning Dr Grande. What a sad situation. I believe that Claude had some action in his girlfriend demise, it would seem the courts agreed. Thank you Dr Grande. Excellent analysis. Tragic outcome and informative topic.
Hi there. Wondering how you are...haven't heard from you in awhile😉💞Busy here with work, Mom. She's been bad lately😔😕Met a new friend tho, helps boost my spirits. He's supportive, sweet, makes me laugh😊. Hope all great with you, missed messaging 🕊🦋🌻🍭🏜⏰💙💙💛💛
@@zenawarrior7442 Hello my lovely friend. I'm so sorry about your mum, will send prayers and hugs for you both. Missed you too. Next baby due the 15th August next year. Stay safe, all the family wish you and your mum the best. 😜😘❤💙💚💙✉🌷🌸🌹🍀Also can you tell me how to notify you please. Really pleased that you have a nice friend-*
@@cottontails9003 Hi. Great to hear back from you. Thx for the prayers. Give me your email ok...is that what you mean? I'm not giving my phone # here haha. Yes Aug 15th...whooohooo!! 😊🌷🥂🌃💕💚Well we'll see about the friend lol, he better not flake like 99% do...keep you posted🌠🦋💛💛❤❤
@@zenawarrior7442 Thank you lovely friend for the reply. Are you able to help me notify you with my phone will give you the number then delete it. This guy sounds good. All the family is wishing your mum has some good days, so happy to hear from you. Take care. 😜😘❤💙💖✉🍵🌷🌷🌷🌷..Just need to know how to highlight a comment Thanks
@@cottontails9003 Hi dear. I so appreciate your thoughts for Mum💕💟💕I too hope she has good days left. Thx on the friend. It's late here sorry...we are on such diff time zones. I don't know how to highlight either nor do I get reply notices 😑. I'll check in a few mins for your #. Otherwise I'll be back on YT in AM friend...hugs😊💜💜🌷🌷🌵🍀🌏🌜
With a reputation like that, it would be hard to maintain supporters when things like that happen. General maliciousness like that is probably motive enough to committ any similar crime. I am starting to understand how people create more reasonable doubt, especially for people that are highly likely to be guilty.
Prison pen pal and happily ever after TYPICALLY don't reside at the same address.... but, Hey, ALWAYS exceptions to the rule! 24 years and counting! And blissfully happy!!! And really, it's kinda fun having a completely insane back story! 😂😂😂😂
I have a terrible reputation in my community and I drink excessively, but I don't commit crimes. Does this mean I am okay to NOT check my smoke detectors? :p
12/20/22 Breaking windows fueled the fire by exposing more oxygen. Imo, no poor patterns, convicted due to his past violent behavior/crimes. Wanted to convict him guilty or not!
I believe she was was in the laundry room, not locked in there, but trying to hide from him. He was drunk and possibly abusive then. She wedged herself between/behind the washer and dryer in an effort to hide. By the time she knew about the fire, she was trapped and died from smoke inhalation.
Claude may have been guilty of burning his house and killing his girlfriend, but it would be impossible to prove it beyond a reasonable doubt because of the lack of professionalism in the investigation. This reminds me more of the oj Simpson case or the Michael Jackson trial
You play with fire, you’re gonna get burned! She wanted a “bad boy” and that’s just what she got. Sad for her, but not at all unexpected……he was a violent ex con…..I mean to say…….
Hi, Jessi Lee Lance here - Lorie Lee Lance was my first cousin. She died three years before I was born and I was never very close with the Lance side of my family, but ever since I heard about her I wish that I could have known her. I can’t tell you how much it means for this story to be getting more publicity and I really appreciate your analysis. I’ve been watching your videos for years and literally gasped when I saw this video pop up in my feed. I can tell you my family has never believed for a second that man was innocent. My mom recalls how he treated Lorie and how she seemed scared around him. She deserved so much more and she should still be alive today. Thank you again, Dr. Grande, for covering this story so eloquently and respectfully. Means a lot and I will be sharing it with my family.
I’m so very sorry for your family’s loss,may your cousin Lorie Lee Rest In Peace 🕊💛
I'm so sorry to hear that 💖🕊
Wonder why she would get into a relationship with that kind of guy…
She shouldn’t have married a career criminal….
@@SuperLio333 shut up 🙄
I'm a psychologist and now whenever I'm doing case notes I hear Dr Grande's voice narrating as I write. It actually helps structure my notes more cogently.
bow? how?
Haha I could totally see that happening to me to. I would pick up his cadence and everything I'm sure of it lmao
Duly noted. Although I could never leave my loved ones behind to die. I would rather die trying to save them... but then again, fire is hot and we truly don't know how we'll react in unknown situations that might be futile.
sometimes its really too late. and sometimes ppl freeze up. but i hate that 2 jurys convicted him when there was lots of reasonable doubt
Try it some time. I've walked out of a burning house (in time, obviously). Once you're outside, there's no going back. The heat has to be experienced to be believed. It's like a wall, impossible for an unprotected human to pass through. I don't think any sane person could do it. As for rescues, take them with you when you get out, and don't fantasize that you can go back for them later.
My 5 year old asked me, "why are you always watching Dr. Grandad?"
😅🤣 Love it!
That's so cute!🌞🌞🌞
I hate it when police and/or jurors say that lack of expression of emotion is an indicator of guilt. Based on what?! As diverse as people are, there are that many ways to feel and express the many emotions that might arise during a crisis or tragedy. In addition, lawyers and advisors advise clients on how to appear and act during questioning and judicial proceedings. And finally, most lay people who profess to have read an accused person's mind have no idea of what they are talking about and often conclude some traits in the opposite way that the traits indicate.
You are correct about emotions. I have witnessed the full spectrum of reactions to horrible situations from family and friends in traumatic events. Years of working in the emergency department have taught me to not judge. Observe, but do not assume.
Correct. The Casey Anthony case comes to mind. Her out partying when her daughter is missing and not being sad about it is not evidence of guilt. Jury got that one right though. The state thought they had it in the bag and failed big time.
Typically, people in shock don't cry or express grief. Shock is an evolutionary adaptation that prevents people from crumbling into a useless heap during a dangerous situation. The shock continues for some time after the chaos has subsided; there's a _lag time._
I wonder how many people have been filmed in this state and juries have attributed their behaviour to a "lack of empathy"?
_Prolonged_ lack of emotions, observed by people who _know the individual_ are a different story entirely, but even then we must be aware that not everyone expresses their grief in an explicit and obvious way. There's also a big difference between someone who doesn't cry much and someone who goes on a spending spree with life insurance money, finds a new partner within weeks and who starts partying 3 days after the funeral. Actions speak louder than emotions, or lack thereof.
@@Bulldog13368 I spend a lot of time in the ER, and my demeanour often throws the staff off until they realize that. I can be in really bad shape (I have extremely severe MCAS, and at times have had 5-6 anaphylactic reactions per day! I also have a myriad of other health issues). I’ve been sick my whole life, and you learn to hide it. Intuitive and or experienced paramedics, nurses and doctors do fine, because they’ve seen the full range before. The non-intuitive initiates on the other had, when I say ‘there is something really wrong’, dismiss me because I don’t look that bad. It took a return the next day, did tests, and it turned out I actually fractured two veritbrae from a spinal infection, and had a systemic blood infection, too. Even that time the doctors were shocked. I said “I told you it was 10/10 pain at one point today.” and he responded “And I believed you, you moved like you were in horrible pain, but you seemed too calm about it.”. “Yeah, because I’ve been here a few times before.”. (I was stunned when I learned it was actually fractured, I thought I’d pulled a muscle, or blown a disk at most). So yes, people process things differently. Sometimes the tiniest thing will toss someone into hysterics, but someone with a massive ugly thing is totally in control.
@@karenneill9109 Hello Karen, In all my years as a EMT in the ED I only cared for one young girl with this syndrome. I am so sorry that you not only have to struggle with this illness, but on top of that you have fight to receive the proper treatment. With your case being so severe, it is important to remain as calm as possible. Hopefully the staff will educate themselves about MCAS and your needs. Thank you for sharing your experiences with me.
Law and Order: SVU did an episode like this, but with a father and children. The fire Marshall thought he noticed pour patterns, and an expert duplicated the exact circumstances of the original fire. It had started from a space heater in the girls' bedroom, I believe.
The green lights are Dr Grande’s way of sending a message to our reptile overlords. 😉
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Speaking of, where’s the alien lizard humanoids series on the podcast? Did they stop doing it?
I liked the brick ( old) background, but Dr G can do NO WRONG!
Erin Flick And what would that message be?
Earthshot?
Good morning Dr. Grande & audience!
Proud Patreon supporter here! Tysm for your videos and such extreme dedication to your viewers, this was really so unbelievably terrible…… 😭💔
As always i find your comments generate an interesting dialog ....
Hi Dr. You have a really fine telling voice. Thank you for your work!
It was not only informative, it was excellent!
My motto has always been to be with a man who tries to save me from a burning house.
Do you have try outs before dateing them? 😂
Nobody knows how they will react in a life or death situation
I've learnt a lot about America and psychology from your videos Dr Grande
Keep making such videos!!
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The only difference I can see in America and other countries might be that America probably goes overboard in airing its dirty laundry, or some might think they don't air it enough. I have lived in 3 other countries. Most countries, especially the most homogeneous ones, take national pride a bit more seriously.
@@troy3456789 I'm from India 🇮🇳 I consider Dr Grande as my Guru(teacher) in my mind 🌼
wat countries hv u been to or lived in??
@@daisylotus808 I have lived and worked Afghanistan, Qatar, South Korea. I have been to and visited many more countries. I also pay attention to foreign media more so than most. I have much respect for Indians. If they could rid their country of corruption, the caste system, and creeping Islam; the entire world would benefit from India.
The greatest thing that has come from eastern thought is *mindfulness* and meditation. For the untrained mind, it is a life changing skill, and it is worth my time. Dr Grande is a great man, no doubt. I do not consider him a guru of mind, or helping reduce the misery of our conscious experience though.
@@daisylotus808 Find a better guru.
@@shanewright1004 he's one of the best.. Y do u dislike him?
Dr. Grande, I like that you mentioned women who write to and/or strike up relationships with, and even marry men in prison, even convicted murderers (like Ted Bundy; yeah, he was smart and fairly good-looking, but still…), even ones they had never met before. I would love it if you would do a video on the psychology of these women, because, really, I just don’t understand it. Personally, I can’t even imagine having a relationship like that.
Dr Grande, I'm sure you've been asked already, but could you maybe do an speculation on the Athena Strand case? She's like little 7 year old girl murdered by a FedEx driver just recently. Such a sad case.
I love your ever changing back ground. It’s evolving nicely!! I just keep waiting for a huge ( like 5-6 feet?) cactus in a pot next to your shelf.
Morning, Dr. Grande and everyone. This looks like an interesting video.
Dood was like "yo I'm out, good luck with all that".
Dr Grande! Please do a video on the former Playboy playmate Stephanie Adams murder suicide story, she killed her 7 year old son by pushing him out of 25th floor balcony then jumped off to kill herself right after him! This is so tragic & crazy, would love to know your thoughts!
Thanks for all the videos!
Ellie
As soon as I looked it up, I checked for a divorce or separation, and yep. Sadly, it is not unheard of for parents in a custody battle to take the life of the child as a real “screw you” to the former spouse. Or a sort of “if I can’t have him, no one will.” Very sad.
I can’t imagine doing that to my child. I was fully prepared to move anywhere to be near him if I ever lost custody (highly unlikely but never impossible). So far, I have had sole legal and physical custody of both my kids from infancy.
Look up Arthur Freeman if you want another tragic, very famous case. Also Josh Powell. The Skelton brothers are probably another instance, although they are “missing” and it remains unsolved. There are many other cases that were not as famous. If you google “child murder divorce custody” you will find a lot of info on blogs, in articles, and on websites that analyze studies and reports on the phenomenon. It’s rare, but happens often enough for people to run studies on.
@Andrea B yeah it's crazy, clearly she should not have had custody of that poor boy
@@Andreamom001ugh I had no clue that this was so prevalent 😩😭 all of those poor innocent children murdered by their own parents Wtf
@R Voit hahaha
@R Voit Dr Grande will study this case well in order to formulate his speculations regarding a situation like this.
Dr G could you discuss why people want to be a pen pal to a convicted criminal?
Thank you Dr. Grande for the interesting analysis, particularly the searingly honest advice in your fiery conclusion. Gratefully, Dennis
I’m a professional painter. And I have never removed the smoke detector. Now with saying that. Mayb they were doing the painting themselves and did remove it due to not having a lot of knowledge with painting. But it is just so much more difficult to remove it. U just paint around it. Just a thought.
Hello Dr Grande.....very sad story ... Thank you for always showing respect to victims. Again thank you for your analysis.❤️
yay thhank you for the vids. they have been really on point, 2022 was a great year for you. you changed your background again!! remember when your set was at a desk?? cheers
There is always confusion on the distinction between "not guilty," or a verdict that is overturned, and innocence. An absence of evidence does not equal "innocent". Also, a career fire fighter is expert testimony. If he said he noticed a "U" shaped discoloration in the burn and it stuck out like a red flag, I think he was speaking from experience, quite possibly the experience that doesn't necessarily show up in academic research. I think this is related to Malcolm Gladwell's "Blink" experience.
Agree. This is similar to a veteran detective who believes a crime scene is staged. He's seen so many real ones that anomalies in a staged scene stand out to him.
@@evelynwaugh4053 Thank you.
The festive Grande cacti are prepared for the holiday season
Good morning Dr Grande, good analysis. I too heard about the change in investing fires. Which is a good idea.
Always learn from your videos.
Make Thursday a great day!
The lack of consensus by the professionals is crazy.
Very good, no-nonsense advice at the end there
Tack!
As we well know: correlation does not substantiate causation. Being an abusive man with a criminal history doesn’t make someone a murder. And many people who have committed murder were otherwise seen as pillars of their community- or at least were better behaved than the subject of your analysis.
Nonetheless, the dry humor was well played as usual. It seems there is mixed message in your opinion that he was guilty vs. your Humored closing statements suggesting that anyone caught in such a scenario is pretty much doomed if they do get out alive and someone else parishes.
To me, the biggest pieces of evidence proving his innocent are that though he was initially convicted because the door was said to be locked and the pseudoscience of pour patterns- both were proved wrong later. Also- no true motive. He may have gotten something out of being controlling of her but didn’t get anything out of her death. It seems to me that if he did want to kill her he would’ve done it in a fit of rage - not in the early morning hours. I can see anyone , and especially a woman like myself, who is attached to something in the house, running away from the door in an effort to get that something. He had already sustained burns, and probably imagined that she was going to make her way back out initially…springing into action when he realized that she hadn’t come out. Lastly I have fallen asleep watching TV and failed to take my cloths off once i made my way to bed. Now- I’m off to make sure the fire alarm was finally put back with a working battery in it. Thank you Dr. Grande!
Those sliding locks are hard to move especially from the other side of the door.
thank you for not sensationalizing these cases
Hi, Dr. Grande. Big fan. Can you please analyze the case of Frederick Charles Wood?
Always interesting.
Thank you
Peace 💕🇺🇲
Here are two more things that don't go together well: a career criminal and a woman who's into "bad boys" and thinks she can "fix" him.
Hi Dr. Grande 👋
So....your theory of murder is that he locked her in the utility room and set things afire? If he were doing that, why would it be necessary to bother to disconnect the fire detector? The question is simple: If the door was locked from the outside it was murder, if not, then there's no reasonable way to call it murder -- especially since there was apparently no evidence that she was knocked unconscious or otherwise restricted from trying to escape. If she didn't trust him (a reasonable conclusion from the ancillary evidence of their relationship and his character) she may very well have not have trusted him enough to be dragged by him through fire! People certainly CAN do completely irrational things in extreme moments.
Can you please consider doing a video on Mitchell Heisman? It’s the most uncomfortable story I’ve ever heard. Would love to hear your thoughts on him and his 2000 page suicide note.
6:58 how can he get acquitted if he already got convicted for a second time ? Did the second conviction get over turned ?
Things have to make sense and add up. And this simply doesn't. The only way out of the house was through the front door. Claude was leading her out the front door when she suddenly broke away and ran toward the back of the house? It makes absolutely no sense for someone to do that.
Normally it wouldn’t, but the defense can always say she was running to grab a family heirloom or something valuable. People have been known to do this during fires. I know that if I’m in a fire and I could grab my family photo album. I would definitely try.
@@chipmunkred1519 I get that. But you wouldn't run into the laundry room. What was she doing? Trying to get the washer and dryer out of the house? I completely understand what you're saying though. But I don't believe that was the defense they presented. But you make a very good point.
@@mtp4430 😂😂 ok You’re right I’m sure she wasn’t going for the washer and dryer. We’re all more than sure he did it. I’m just playing devils advocate. But the defense can always say she went back for something valuable and ended up in that room from smoke installation or because she couldn’t see. There’s just too much reasonable doubt in this case.
Please make a video about Peter Scully
I have a challenge for you Dr, could you possibly look into ‘ Margaret thatcher, as I’m Scottish I’m not a big fan, but would welcome your insight.
Watched with subs and lost it at "I'm not diagnosing YOU in this video" 1st person Dr Grande simulator is unbeatable
Could you do something on the case of Seath Jackson, who was murdered by a group of teen friends in Florida?
Great analysis
Men are expected to succeed or die trying 🙏
As you were going over this case I had Todd Willingham in mind. Another awful case but this one concerning children. This one is also bot clear cut. Initially the wife supported him and didn't think he had anything to do with it, but over the years she changed her mind. It's an interesting one and I'd like to hear your thoughts on it Dr. Grande.
I read the "Trial By Fire" article on him years ago and it was chilling. Fire science was as faulty as lie detector tests.
My house has all the smoke detectors disabled, because they keep going off when we cook.
Oh dang we have a couple space heaters too.
Dr. Grande, I'm sure you would love to watch Harry and Meghan's Docu series for us...😀😀😀Love to hear your current take on, "Their Story..."
Love the green lights! Very cool 😎
Please review the Harry & Meghan Netflix docuseries.
Hello 👋 good Dr. Grande
Terrible story for the victim!
Always appreciate the way you lay everything out in each video, and then so thoughtfully share your ideas on the subject matter! ♡♡
Had th laugh at the "Ferocious potato salad attacks...." 😅
I can get behind not victim blaming here but it seems like her decision making was lets say 'not of the highest standard' when she was alive, and panic makes you have even worse decision making. Can totally see how she ended up there trying to 'hide from the fire' and then died as a total freak accident without anyone having murderous intent. There's definitely a reasonable doubt in my mind.
Absolutely!
Perhaps the fire was in the front room, and she was too scared to go past it to get to the front door. With the heavy smoke, it would be hard to see where one is going, so she missed other ways to escape. When we lived in the 'burbs, our next door neighbor's house burned to the ground. It was amazing how quickly that fire spread and consumed the house. Fortunately, no one was home. It was probably due to a faulty electric circuit. They were doing work on their kitchen at the time.
She has tried to break up with him 6 months prior. So.. there's some decision making skills.. She did not succeed, probably had been stalked and harrassed for months... and I don't think for a second that she had not saw at least a movie or something picturing a fire in the house and what people are supposed to do in that situation. Even cartoons show that. No, she is not to blame in any circumstances. Plus, being with a bully and a sociopath does damage cognitive skills. Still not her fault.
@@GeorgideMarne That's the point. In an accident it's no one's fault.
Is he guilty of being a dirtbag, for sure, is he a murderer? There's a reasonable doubt.
I feel like the point of Dr Grande's video was about how a list of similar assumptions and fake science can be used to 'prove' something when it proved nothing.
@@JaxonHaxon I live in France. There is a term in the penal code that roughly translates to "failure to help or assist a person in danger" and yes, you could go to jail for that. No ambivalence.. Not 30 years but still... No, Dr Grande clearly said that he thinks he was guilty, maybe not directly but by crass negligence surely.
Good analysis!!!
I do love your new set but I do miss the festive chili peppers from last year. ❤
Wtf is up with his right arm at 11:30
Nothing happened
The state will never admit when they have wrongfully convicted someone.
Several States have in the last few months.I believe the city together with the State of New York paid 36 million dollars to an innocent man very recently. It may have been the result of a jury, I do not know.
Your reputation in your community is the most important thing in the world people don't give the benefit of Doubt to people they don't like. How many people like Bill Cosby committed crimes for years because nobody could believe he was capable of it and how many people are sitting in prison for a crime they didn't commit because everybody couldn't see how they weren't capable of doing it.
I think your furniture might be radioactive.
Claude lied that the woman didn't want to leave the house on fire and managed to escape his pulling her arm to get her out.
She was so worried to be physically harmed by Claude if she didn't check on him at the bar regularly yet she was not worried to be harmed by a fire.
He's guilty hence the lie.
Good afternoon, Dr. Grande! Indeed, Claude was an unpleasant character and morally, if not legally, guilty of his girlfriend's murder. I doubt that he planned the fire and when it broke out, he figured every man for himself and devil take the hindmost.
That was his girlfriend's misfortune. He felt that he was safe, and that was fine by him.
His two convictions were based on his vile nature and history, rather than the fire investigators' dubious findings. And they were pretty questionable at best or incompetent at worst.
And having "disabled" fire detectors is not that uncommon. as some people might take the batteries out of them to use them for other purposes or they might be located in such places where kitchen stoves, ovens and clothes dryers might set them off each time those appliances are used.
At best he was guilty of depraved indifference to human life, but that is not what he was charged with.
"Morally guilty"? What the hell does that mean? Sounds like something Greta (the AGW Kid) would say.
The other thing is, if he was going to disable a smoke detector, why would he put it on the drier? Literally _anything_ else would have made more sense: like slightly disconnecting the battery and remounting the detector, or throwing the detector away entirely. The fact that the rear door wasn't locked also creates doubt, as does the testimony of apparently incompetent fire "experts".
Anyone who thinks the state proved it's case here should never be on a jury. I personally don't care about Claude Garret and his fate. He was a monster jerk and it's close to impossible to sympathise with such a person. It's about the application of criminal justice generally.
He got 2nd degree burns. Common man. He isn’t the human flame. She did this herself.
I assume you are the unpaid mindreader , priest, and defense attorney that lost the case. . Because there is no professional title next to your identity. With out a professional title I can not stomach reading beyond the 4th sentence. Maybe you are one of John Eastman’s lay assistants. A good man to hide behind. To claim a wish is in fact.
So many weak losers delusional voting. I guess it is highly contagious.
@@allinaday9882 At least I have not chosen to cloak my identity through anonymity.
Very good!!!!!
There are so many couples in America who have very toxic relationships who don't torch each other. Neighbors already had it in their minds who Claude was on a moral level. If there had been an insurance policy involved or another man/woman something big to lose etc... possibly.
Love and peace
What's in the tank behind you?
If your cacti have no sunlight they won’t live too long.I see no windows around. 🌵🌵🤠
He probably let's them sun bathe when he's not entertaing us 😉
Nothing says “I love you “ like burning, hot “dying in the fire part!”
What could she have possibly found attractive in this person?
Maybe she was afraid to leave.
Oh shit, this happened down the road from me.
A friend's ex-girlfriend, who we all loved, was raped, stabbed and murdered by a guy she broke up with. He then set the house on fire. She was still alive at that point but unable to move and was apparently in and out of consciousness. He then decided it would look bad, so ran in to get her out and she died, horrifically, in his arms, on the front lawn as the house burned. She was about to leave to go back to the UK and her family after 20 years here. Such a sweet, sweet woman. I'm so very sorry Lori suffered in this way and was taken from the family. It's heartbreaking.
Dang, RIP Lori. Unimaginable horrors happen to good people and those close to them have to suffer with the pain of sorting out why. I am very sorry for your loss and the pain your former lady friend had to endure, may she rest in peace and you find some solace in sharing her story in hopes of preventing such evil in the future.
It's quite easy to perform experiments to ascertain how fires behave in certain circumstances. Fire inspectors need to be scientifically rigorous if they want to be taken seriously. Same goes for blood splatter, bite mark, foot print and tire mark analysts, medical examiners and CSI dog handlers. There's so much fluffery in all these areas and enough is enough. This shit needs to be sorted out and made scientific.
Let me speculate for a second: When they got home, at some point, Claude and his girlfriend had an argument. He punished her by locking her in the utility room, then he went to bed. He awoke to a fire and escape the house. He was too afraid of the fire to try to go back in till others arrived. His strange behavior was because he knew he had left the girlfriend locked in the house. I wonder if the authorities pursued that possiblity.
DR . Todd just because someone is a career criminal , and is vicious, cruel and manipulative, doesn't make them a bad person
Genuine question/discussion: what makes a person bad? Conversely, what makes a person good?
Dr. G, please do a analysis of the character Wednesday Addams from the Netflix series 'Wednesday'?
What is bothersome is that too often, as in this case, these kind of guys find naive professional "innocence" believers even professionals as journalists (like here: Segura) or often folks from innocence projects who presume everyone with a sob story innocent and are a disgrace to the rest of us lawyers who truly try to finde the shades of grey in which the truth more often than not is written.
So many videos about talking about other people doing bad things, basically never talks about something like the affects of trauma or something.
Good morning Dr Grande. What a sad situation. I believe that Claude had some action in his girlfriend demise, it would seem the courts agreed. Thank you Dr Grande. Excellent analysis. Tragic outcome and informative topic.
Hi there. Wondering how you are...haven't heard from you in awhile😉💞Busy here with work, Mom. She's been bad lately😔😕Met a new friend tho, helps boost my spirits. He's supportive, sweet, makes me laugh😊. Hope all great with you, missed messaging 🕊🦋🌻🍭🏜⏰💙💙💛💛
@@zenawarrior7442 Hello my lovely friend. I'm so sorry about your mum, will send prayers and hugs for you both. Missed you too. Next baby due the 15th August next year. Stay safe, all the family wish you and your mum the best. 😜😘❤💙💚💙✉🌷🌸🌹🍀Also can you tell me how to notify you please. Really pleased that you have a nice friend-*
@@cottontails9003 Hi. Great to hear back from you. Thx for the prayers. Give me your email ok...is that what you mean? I'm not giving my phone # here haha. Yes Aug 15th...whooohooo!! 😊🌷🥂🌃💕💚Well we'll see about the friend lol, he better not flake like 99% do...keep you posted🌠🦋💛💛❤❤
@@zenawarrior7442 Thank you lovely friend for the reply. Are you able to help me notify you with my phone will give you the number then delete it. This guy sounds good. All the family is wishing your mum has some good days, so happy to hear from you. Take care. 😜😘❤💙💖✉🍵🌷🌷🌷🌷..Just need to know how to highlight a comment Thanks
@@cottontails9003 Hi dear. I so appreciate your thoughts for Mum💕💟💕I too hope she has good days left. Thx on the friend. It's late here sorry...we are on such diff time zones. I don't know how to highlight either nor do I get reply notices 😑. I'll check in a few mins for your #. Otherwise I'll be back on YT in AM friend...hugs😊💜💜🌷🌷🌵🍀🌏🌜
With a reputation like that, it would be hard to maintain supporters when things like that happen.
General maliciousness like that is probably motive enough to committ any similar crime.
I am starting to understand how people create more reasonable doubt, especially for people that are highly likely to be guilty.
The prosecution should tell the truth if it expects to succeed.
@@somethingelse4424 So should plea bargaining when the state do not disclose all of the reasons for their offer.
Claude looks like he could be Mr. Clean’s evil twin.
Y’all didn’t even watch the video before commenting 😂
are the cactus lights coming out this year?
He looks like American History X.
Nah, Edward Norton made really bad look really good.
@@monabear7287 Sir Edward Norton.
Dr sir,do you think you will have time to analyze and describe Jerry Lewis?
I think he was responsible.
Yeah the smoke detector is verry suspicious… but he maid it out!
Prison pen pal and happily ever after TYPICALLY don't reside at the same address.... but, Hey, ALWAYS exceptions to the rule! 24 years and counting! And blissfully happy!!!
And really, it's kinda fun having a completely insane back story! 😂😂😂😂
Being a known violent criminal can cause people to look at you with suspicion if someone dies in your vicinity? Who knew?
Towering inferno? Moar like.... COWERING inferno amirite?!?!?!?!??!
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Woman expects man to go into the flames to rescue a barbie doll
The mounting flames may have discouraged Claud's sacrifice to his natural entity and encouraged his legs
Isn’t that double jeopardy?
I have a terrible reputation in my community and I drink excessively, but I don't commit crimes. Does this mean I am okay to NOT check my smoke detectors? :p
12/20/22 Breaking windows fueled the fire by exposing more oxygen. Imo, no poor patterns, convicted due to his past violent behavior/crimes. Wanted to convict him guilty or not!
Here's my take away: if you are a career criminal, you will be convicted. It's called K A R M A ! ! !
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I believe she was was in the laundry room, not locked in there, but trying to hide from him. He was drunk and possibly abusive then. She wedged herself between/behind the washer and dryer in an effort to hide. By the time she knew about the fire, she was trapped and died from smoke inhalation.
Interesting. I could see that possibility!
One way to test your significant other’s love for you is through the fire test 😅
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Ps. First 😊. And thank you for your analysis Dr. Grande! I always enjoy your perspective.
Claude may have been guilty of burning his house and killing his girlfriend, but it would be impossible to prove it beyond a reasonable doubt because of the lack of professionalism in the investigation. This reminds me more of the oj Simpson case or the Michael Jackson trial
Watched 2:22pm 12 /🎄/22 🇬🇧
You play with fire, you’re gonna get burned! She wanted a “bad boy” and that’s just what she got. Sad for her, but not at all unexpected……he was a violent ex con…..I mean to say…….