No BGM cuz this video is sad. The goal was sub5'50", in this video there were 2 major mistakes that prevented the sub6'10" (3:57 and 5:17) but dealing with both RNG of the monster and the RNG of the helmbreaker's hitbox it became impossible for me. I won't lose my mental sanity and my time because Capcom adds delayed hitbox mechanics (ISS and HB) they can't evidently manage. I'll reach my goal if Capcom will ever consider to fix this shit. I will take some time now for other projects I have in mind, so please stay tuned for some good content next month on my channel! Cya. Edit: This is the set, sorry I forgot to show it at the end twitter.com/ThatPeppo/status/1288863412173316096
So is the glitch then because the hitbox from HB comes a little after you actually do the attack so if you use HB and the monster moves another part of it's body into the lingering hitbox then that part takes some of the HB damage?
I was so confused lately. I genuinely thought I was just missing hits since I thought that shit got fixed before. Turns out they fucked it up again. This is the most used and most bugged weapon in the game. Wtf is Capcom doing?
Based on the position, it almost looks like the hit box clipped the chest spikes while falling, but maybe it has something to do with the player's position, since all the 'failed' hits have the player a lot closer to Ala's neck than the rest, and the hitbox is checking near the hilt? I dunno, I'm not an LS main and this is the first I've heard of this, but maybe
@@thechilzer7803 It doesn't make sense sometimes. You can even see it in this video on the second example where the grey hits are actually behind him. Logical thinking would have you believe the way it works is the hitbox for helmbreaker is vertical since it's a falling attack, but sometimes the actual hits are landing on a horizontal line.
Imagine losing your sanity when you could solo alatreon in less than 10 mins Yet here I am, ordinary mortal, who has yet to conquer this mountain of a dragon
Tbh solo is the way to go for alatreon if you don't have friends to play with. You don't have to rely on randoms to bring the right element, if any element at all (some idiots still try to bring in their blast shit) and getting the ele topples is easier too imo.
Chuan Li I think what he meant was it’ll be what you would normally get when doing all the little slashes added up, the problem with that would be the first hit of helm would wake the monster and the ultra one hit helm breaker wouldn’t get the sleeping hit multiplier while the GS does, theoretically giving it the bigger damage
It will only work of the attack is always a critical because if the monster moves while you’re doing HB and hit a hard part, you just wasted your meter for very little damage. Interestingly enough, I don’t think I have had that bug shown in the video.
@@SAWFACEG59 really? I thought they said they are planning to support mhw for a long ass time. I'd expect several more, at the very least 1 more huge dlc. Isn't letter G still free for that?
@@maiwaifuisdead Uh no bruv Fatalis is the last update. That's the end. They are moving on to new project after this. However monsterhunterworld servers and events will still run for quite some time.
@@maiwaifuisdead Servers will be up for a long time, that's what they mean by supporting it. Other multiplayer games would just shut down their servers after moving towards a next project.
the case at 7:15 where the wing is clipped seems to suggest it's to do with a giant hitbox they put on the move to make sure it lands. All the hits are to close bodyparts like the neck. I'm guessing it's not an alatreon specific issue, though maybe the position of his head compared to his neck worsens it. they're at about the same height when helmsplitter lands, maybe neck a bit higher sometimes. Essentially it's not a bug but a bad hitbox
they could have had multiple hitboxes... a tight one, which gets checked first to get precise hits, then a slightly less tight one etc. it's not even hard to implement, maybe 30 mins of work (plus a whole lot of testing ofc)
that also happens to me, especially when ur hunting a monster with wings and u wantt to hit the front legs, some of the damage goes to the wings instead of the front legs
I personally am my own "speedrunner" (13 minutes is the fastest I can do LMAO this is just for fun) but I can understand how those damage numbers mean SO MUCH to making sure you get the fastest time possible. Those hits to the neck despite a clear slash to the head make absolutely no sense.
I am a LS Player and I know this well. Every time soloing Alatreon, this will happen it feels so bad when they released the message that LS had been fixed but it still have some problem like this and so "DEAR CAPCOM” (I'm from Malaysia, my english sucks)
Bruv fuck it. You're still a damn good player and your content is amazing. It don't matter what RNG does or how you missed your timing by abit. Its all good my man. You're still a god damn legend in my book. Way to go my man
What I enjoyed most was your ability to evade so many attacks. As a Switch Axe main, the ability to avoid attacks is a key element in being a successful hunter especially with how immobile my weapon is.
This hunt was very satisfying. I can see the hitbox issue and was surprised Capcom didn't fix that issue (or did they later on ?) I still can't beat it with longsword, but it makes me want to give it another shot at the dragon chicken.
Most of the moves you pull off are pure bullshit like im 100% sure i can never pull it off. And that ending combo is just fuckin gold. Nice Run man, mad respect.
I'm pretty dumb but why is the color of the damage number at 6:48 , 6:57 yellowish with orange color with a star? I Use The Defender Longsword IV And I Have Seen It But I Don't Know Why The Color Is Like That, Can Someone Explain?
We literally just failed an alatreon because my helm breaker damage all went to his neck and chest for crap damage despite my sword quite literally clipping through the tip of his stupid head. He then proceeded to get enraged and fly until it was to late. If fatalis has some ridiculous damage check too I'm alt f4ing and going to bed.
@@jeroen92 not really. Some anime character will just sheathe their katana and the enemy got cut to thousand pieces. I think thats where the idea came from
I think its not the problem of SHB's hitbox, it's about the hitbox of Alatreon's chest. Hope crapcom will fix it. (the reason of 7:21 is because 7:03, once you press the button, the hit box starting from when the player character pulls the sword backward in preparation for the swing, and continues to be active for a short period even after the character has landed. Which MoonBunnie's document about SHB state it very clearly)
It very clearly looks like some hits in the drop are hitting spots the rise would create even if the timeline of hits is different (looks like those odd hits are the 5th or sixth?) So starting SHB behind the monster in its forearm-pit looks to be part of the problem. Fault nonwithstanding. I believe SHB should be explained in detail by capcom or some sort of hotfix be applied at a later date. I feel for LS but there are other weapons that could really use the attention.
Lmaoo that end music. Sad thing is capcom the type that will let something like tigrex hitbox stays forever soooo i hope they really works toeard making the game as less clunky as possible
At some point after Iceborne began, I stopped using the helmsplitter. I was just way too irritated that it didn't work properly and the problem was never adressed. I used it again on Fatalis, but had a whole other problem. The slash hit the head, the efx triggered. Nothing. No damage at all. A perfectly timed helmsplitter with no reward and a wasted bar. It is truly sad and it feels even worse here. You have such beautiful, elegant gameplay and those helmsplitters were perfect. At least we had the Iai spirit slash as another big damage move. Let's see how it will be in rise.
I swear, it almost feels like the HB hits are reorienting according to the camera somehow. Like, when rotating to see Alatreon from the front, because the HB downward trust intersects the rest of his body's LOS, it somehow reacts to that...
I think you might be right I once landed a full damage helmbreaker on lunastra's head despite me completely missing the camera was in a weird postion too. Yet there are times where I land it properly and damage gets skewed like in the video.
@@procow2274 because she literally just moved as I was coming down so I couldn't aim at anything. I just turned my helmbreaker 180 degrees behind me and still got the hit.
Man what a sad time to be longsword main. Whoever made delayed hitbox a thing was a fool. We all know we cant be as cool as vergil... longsword needs a major overhaul. Seriously. Quick sheath lvl 3 is pointless as well...why cant i clutch straight away after a roundhouse slash and have to look at my character slowly sheathing it?
But still, I wanna put that song called "Solaris Phase 2/Perfect dark gaia theme" when I was start fighting against Alatreon, but before that, I will carefully see the area view and then change the song pitch regardless of Alatreon's elemental actives: 1. Ice Active (Low pitch music) 2. Dragon Active (Normal pitch music) 3. Fire Active (High pitch music)
Weapon attacks that are only one move but have multiple damage numbers (like helm breaker, wyverns fire, Iai spirit slash, etc.) should be changed to just have one big number imo
I saw someone make this same argument further up, and at first I agreed, until I saw the counterargument. The counterpoint to that is this: What if for some reason the monster turns, or does a slight movement, and then that Helmbreaker that was meant to hit the head for 1000 combined damage, now hits its resistant wing for only 200? You essentially just wasted your entire big, damaging move to only get a fifth of the damage. The multiple damage numbers are overall a better way to implement it. I'm entirely sure that Capcom had the same idea when they were coding in Helmbreaker. They probably just found that the chance of wasting all of your damage on a target that got blocked in a manner that was out of your control to be...well, a bit lame, and unfun for the player. Still, the fact that what should be a straight, vertical hitbox can miss and hit other areas like in the video is an incredibly frustrating thing to deal with.
Speedrunning for such low times needs incredible rng. Still, a world record is incredible! Tbh I think the helmbreakers would have landed more consistently if you execute them completely perpendicular to Alatreon's head, though delayed hitboxes are not nice.
I've hunted Alatreon 100 times with LS, this shit has occurred in every single hunt I've done, it doesn't matter how accurate you land it. This problem needs to be fixed, but I think it is too late.
That one proc you got on the tip of the wing looks valid considering your weapon did clip through his wing before he moved it back at the beginning of the helm splitter. Looks more like hitbox porn instead of just a bad hitbox. The neck procs though are completely BS
not a hitbox problem. HB is just long continues damage and it must go somewhere. since there is not enought spot for the head to continue smaller slash of Helmbreaker and instead of stoping the damage completely it runs to the neck at certain angle.
@@captainace1277 Well, from the release date elemental damage acts a bit weird in this game, like it's just an addiction. I think Crapcom could rework a little on how the elemental damage works.
@@procow2274 yeah. its already quite hard to hit weak spots with HB with all the inconsistencies, plus a shitty multiplier. ngl im already having troubles hitting weak spots with HB cause the monsters keep moving an inch away
Bro, that run was amazing! Very well done! Capcom seems to cut the budget alot when it comes to the favorite weapon in the game. I simply can't understand the mindset behind that
Im very certain that this video convinced low level hunters that you can speed run alatreon with dragon weapons. the amount of people that use dark claw without knowing he used a layered weapon and join my quest
How to get life steal from longsword attack? I Saw the picture of Twitter by peppo the skills just basically to improve damage, whats point im must to do to get that?
so whats ur prefered or the best build for LS? i keep going for crit and atk both around lvl 6 and then either one or the other is at 7. also what food atk buff / drink are u using ? you doing 190 - 210 damage then to around 280 - 310 just hitting weak spots is soo broken even i dont get that high. also im not using any buff what so ever other then from the food of course.
I always thought I keep missing the weak spot doing the helm breaker despite it doesnt look like it visually, so all this time its a god damn BUG!? Really Capcom!? Really!?
No BGM cuz this video is sad. The goal was sub5'50", in this video there were 2 major mistakes that prevented the sub6'10" (3:57 and 5:17)
but dealing with both RNG of the monster and the RNG of the helmbreaker's hitbox it became impossible for me.
I won't lose my mental sanity and my time because Capcom adds delayed hitbox mechanics (ISS and HB) they can't evidently manage.
I'll reach my goal if Capcom will ever consider to fix this shit. I will take some time now for other projects I have in mind, so please
stay tuned for some good content next month on my channel! Cya.
Edit: This is the set, sorry I forgot to show it at the end twitter.com/ThatPeppo/status/1288863412173316096
Im a LS main too. Its very sad too see they never fixed helm breaker. So now ive been using the other 13 weapons.
Im a gs and ls main ive legit started to use my gs more now its sad
😆 "i wont lose my mental sanity and my time" lol I find it funny reading this after seeing this many runs from u 😂
So is the glitch then because the hitbox from HB comes a little after you actually do the attack so if you use HB and the monster moves another part of it's body into the lingering hitbox then that part takes some of the HB damage?
I was so confused lately. I genuinely thought I was just missing hits since I thought that shit got fixed before. Turns out they fucked it up again. This is the most used and most bugged weapon in the game. Wtf is Capcom doing?
6:46 see? even alatreon is laughing at the hitbox
*G R A S S*
@@DogeSargeant kusa
草
0:41 pause
Alatreon: Uses ultimate
Normal Hunter: "Quick, 1 person health booster, come come!"
Peppo: *busy helm breaking
3:56 Peppo: "Ok Alatreon, you can get 1 hit in."
Yeah me and my boy Alatreon trying to hunt down the impossible monster named "Peppo"
What about the ice flares?
Nasty-looking Navi that was an actually body hit
So the solution of helm breaker missing damage is to randomly add the damage to other parts of the monster. Sweet.
Yeah I love it when I land on the head but get a load of miserable grey numbers from everywhere but the head
Based on the position, it almost looks like the hit box clipped the chest spikes while falling, but maybe it has something to do with the player's position, since all the 'failed' hits have the player a lot closer to Ala's neck than the rest, and the hitbox is checking near the hilt? I dunno, I'm not an LS main and this is the first I've heard of this, but maybe
@@thechilzer7803 It doesn't make sense sometimes. You can even see it in this video on the second example where the grey hits are actually behind him. Logical thinking would have you believe the way it works is the hitbox for helmbreaker is vertical since it's a falling attack, but sometimes the actual hits are landing on a horizontal line.
it hurts your pride with anime cringe, thats how they balance helmbreaker
sportagus3 the Helm Splitter clipped the wing too, a tiny bit. It was in range during the fall.
2:20 the timing on that helm breaker is so beautiful
I was almost crying laughing watching those "helmbreakers" at the end, then the last one got replayed and I saw that 99 and almost fell of my chair!
The chest hits were worse offenders, he did kinda clip the wing with the swing but I don't understand the chest hits at all.
Cringe
Imagine losing your sanity when you could solo alatreon in less than 10 mins
Yet here I am, ordinary mortal, who has yet to conquer this mountain of a dragon
I finally got my first solo last night after who knows how many attempts. You can do it, I guarantee.
Tbh solo is the way to go for alatreon if you don't have friends to play with. You don't have to rely on randoms to bring the right element, if any element at all (some idiots still try to bring in their blast shit) and getting the ele topples is easier too imo.
I've yet to solo him. Mostly because he starts playing a bullshit keep away game once he gets close to a element damage cap being met.
The real mountain dragon is zorah.
Feels
This was the most epic Alatreon run I'll probably ever see
They should make helm break into single massive hit instead of multiple small hits
aww but thats not as satisfying
@@ingohregg688 they could "fake" it, dividing the damage and doing the multiple hits sounds but in reality it hit once with a shit ton of damage
Chuan Li I think what he meant was it’ll be what you would normally get when doing all the little slashes added up, the problem with that would be the first hit of helm would wake the monster and the ultra one hit helm breaker wouldn’t get the sleeping hit multiplier while the GS does, theoretically giving it the bigger damage
@@miguellazarogil935 noice
@Chuan Li TCS was only added in World how would it be symbolic across the series
Probably the most amazing and satisfying long sword gameplay I’ve ever seen.
in my head i heard "Flawless Victory" from Mortal Kombat after Alatreon went down. well done, great dance
i love how you’re sheathing a scythe
5:45 ここの見切り斬り方向からの兜割り制御が芸術的すぎる
終盤でこれを狙って決めきる胆力に脱帽
今回の太刀はシリーズ最高の武器なだけに兜割りバグは惜しいなぁ…
最後のダイジェストから撮り直しのイメージがにじみ出てて切ない
I got the special assignment, went in, get rekt, came out, cry.
動きに無駄が無く、見ていて気持ちいい
Helmbreaker
More like
Shooting with Shotgun from 100m away
You apparently have never used a shotgun in real life.
@zuliwe z
Most people haven’t
1:20 the golden scythe
Seriously capcom just change it to 1 big chunk of damage like this one 1:16 but with greater value, that will really fix the problem
It will only work of the attack is always a critical because if the monster moves while you’re doing HB and hit a hard part, you just wasted your meter for very little damage. Interestingly enough, I don’t think I have had that bug shown in the video.
The game is almost at the end of its life cycle. They aren't gonna completely change the way the hitbox works now.
@@SAWFACEG59 really? I thought they said they are planning to support mhw for a long ass time. I'd expect several more, at the very least 1 more huge dlc. Isn't letter G still free for that?
@@maiwaifuisdead Uh no bruv Fatalis is the last update. That's the end.
They are moving on to new project after this. However monsterhunterworld servers and events will still run for quite some time.
@@maiwaifuisdead Servers will be up for a long time, that's what they mean by supporting it.
Other multiplayer games would just shut down their servers after moving towards a next project.
the case at 7:15 where the wing is clipped seems to suggest it's to do with a giant hitbox they put on the move to make sure it lands. All the hits are to close bodyparts like the neck. I'm guessing it's not an alatreon specific issue, though maybe the position of his head compared to his neck worsens it. they're at about the same height when helmsplitter lands, maybe neck a bit higher sometimes.
Essentially it's not a bug but a bad hitbox
they could have had multiple hitboxes... a tight one, which gets checked first to get precise hits, then a slightly less tight one etc. it's not even hard to implement, maybe 30 mins of work (plus a whole lot of testing ofc)
that also happens to me, especially when ur hunting a monster with wings and u wantt to hit the front legs, some of the damage goes to the wings instead of the front legs
I personally am my own "speedrunner" (13 minutes is the fastest I can do LMAO this is just for fun) but I can understand how those damage numbers mean SO MUCH to making sure you get the fastest time possible. Those hits to the neck despite a clear slash to the head make absolutely no sense.
I am a LS Player and I know this well.
Every time soloing Alatreon, this will happen it feels so bad when they released the message that LS had been
fixed but it still have some problem like this and so "DEAR CAPCOM”
(I'm from Malaysia, my english sucks)
Bruv fuck it. You're still a damn good player and your content is amazing. It don't matter what RNG does or how you missed your timing by abit. Its all good my man. You're still a god damn legend in my book. Way to go my man
What I enjoyed most was your ability to evade so many attacks. As a Switch Axe main, the ability to avoid attacks is a key element in being a successful hunter especially with how immobile my weapon is.
This hunt was very satisfying. I can see the hitbox issue and was surprised Capcom didn't fix that issue (or did they later on ?) I still can't beat it with longsword, but it makes me want to give it another shot at the dragon chicken.
Most of the moves you pull off are pure bullshit like im 100% sure i can never pull it off. And that ending combo is just fuckin gold. Nice Run man, mad respect.
3:56 ah yes that shit got me just like that aswell. How do you want to prevent something you cant see.
Peppo: This is not ok Capcom...
Capcom: Yes sir, sorry sir!
I'm pretty dumb but why is the color of the damage number at 6:48 , 6:57 yellowish with orange color with a star? I Use The Defender Longsword IV And I Have Seen It But I Don't Know Why The Color Is Like That, Can Someone Explain?
Nice run I never knew LS I frames were so insane that an attack could move your character model like that w/o dmgs
no matter how much i study the moveset of the LS, id never be able to get this good.
1 year later and now we have the helmbreaker that transcends space time...
Jesus, glad to know i'm not the only one who experienced this bs
We literally just failed an alatreon because my helm breaker damage all went to his neck and chest for crap damage despite my sword quite literally clipping through the tip of his stupid head.
He then proceeded to get enraged and fly until it was to late. If fatalis has some ridiculous damage check too I'm alt f4ing and going to bed.
I've never understood why helmsplitter gives multiple hits rather than just one big hit. It's one strike.
Anime
@@jehonthecasual1990 but in Anime katana don't deal multiple hit... They deal a single hit with an effect that is delayed between 10 and 20 seconds.
@@jeroen92 not really. Some anime character will just sheathe their katana and the enemy got cut to thousand pieces. I think thats where the idea came from
I understood if its spirit slash, but it is a freakin helm breaker.
They should switch multiple hits to spirit slash and only one hit to helm breaker lmao
I think its not the problem of SHB's hitbox, it's about the hitbox of Alatreon's chest. Hope crapcom will fix it. (the reason of 7:21 is because 7:03, once you press the button, the hit box starting from when the player character pulls the sword backward in preparation for the swing, and continues to be active for a short period even after the character has landed. Which MoonBunnie's document about SHB state it very clearly)
It very clearly looks like some hits in the drop are hitting spots the rise would create even if the timeline of hits is different (looks like those odd hits are the 5th or sixth?) So starting SHB behind the monster in its forearm-pit looks to be part of the problem. Fault nonwithstanding.
I believe SHB should be explained in detail by capcom or some sort of hotfix be applied at a later date.
I feel for LS but there are other weapons that could really use the attention.
Lmaoo that end music. Sad thing is capcom the type that will let something like tigrex hitbox stays forever soooo i hope they really works toeard making the game as less clunky as possible
At some point after Iceborne began, I stopped using the helmsplitter. I was just way too irritated that it didn't work properly and the problem was never adressed. I used it again on Fatalis, but had a whole other problem. The slash hit the head, the efx triggered.
Nothing.
No damage at all. A perfectly timed helmsplitter with no reward and a wasted bar.
It is truly sad and it feels even worse here. You have such beautiful, elegant gameplay and those helmsplitters were perfect. At least we had the Iai spirit slash as another big damage move. Let's see how it will be in rise.
Awesome video :) Can imagine how annoying the delayed hitboxes are if you're a speedrunner. Hope to see more videos in the future!
同じ太刀使いとして本間尊敬しています！！
これからもファイト！！
応援してます
I swear, it almost feels like the HB hits are reorienting according to the camera somehow. Like, when rotating to see Alatreon from the front, because the HB downward trust intersects the rest of his body's LOS, it somehow reacts to that...
I think you might be right I once landed a full damage helmbreaker on lunastra's head despite me completely missing the camera was in a weird postion too. Yet there are times where I land it properly and damage gets skewed like in the video.
@@Lunk42 I feel compelled to ask why you wouldn't aim at Luna's wings
@@procow2274 because she literally just moved as I was coming down so I couldn't aim at anything. I just turned my helmbreaker 180 degrees behind me and still got the hit.
that grunt you make when the Helmbreaker just... phases through the monster
Man what a sad time to be longsword main. Whoever made delayed hitbox a thing was a fool. We all know we cant be as cool as vergil... longsword needs a major overhaul. Seriously. Quick sheath lvl 3 is pointless as well...why cant i clutch straight away after a roundhouse slash and have to look at my character slowly sheathing it?
Great grind man, well done!
alatrion:this is great he wont kill me again
me:dont be happy altrion because i will slay u :)
me:anyways that was sooo good
Alatreon hitbox joins the battle between Lunastra's hitbox and Velkhana's jedi tail!
未だ兜割がどうして多段ヒット扱いになるか理解できないし、一発に集合したほうがいいよ
What layered pieces are you using in this video?
Adoro l'Alatreon.
Ottima caccia, bravissimo
I know all too well about the dreaded ' did i really hit there helm breakers'. Feels bad man.
But still, I wanna put that song called "Solaris Phase 2/Perfect dark gaia theme" when I was start fighting against Alatreon, but before that, I will carefully see the area view and then change the song pitch regardless of Alatreon's elemental actives:
1. Ice Active (Low pitch music)
2. Dragon Active (Normal pitch music)
3. Fire Active (High pitch music)
Weapon attacks that are only one move but have multiple damage numbers (like helm breaker, wyverns fire, Iai spirit slash, etc.) should be changed to just have one big number imo
I saw someone make this same argument further up, and at first I agreed, until I saw the counterargument. The counterpoint to that is this: What if for some reason the monster turns, or does a slight movement, and then that Helmbreaker that was meant to hit the head for 1000 combined damage, now hits its resistant wing for only 200? You essentially just wasted your entire big, damaging move to only get a fifth of the damage. The multiple damage numbers are overall a better way to implement it. I'm entirely sure that Capcom had the same idea when they were coding in Helmbreaker. They probably just found that the chance of wasting all of your damage on a target that got blocked in a manner that was out of your control to be...well, a bit lame, and unfun for the player. Still, the fact that what should be a straight, vertical hitbox
can miss and hit other areas like in the video is an incredibly frustrating thing to deal with.
Hey Peppo. Just another great run on this video. What video editor app do you use, if you dont mind me asking?
Sony Vegas
@@PeppoLS thanks Peppo! Looking forward to more of your sword swinging vids.
Don't worry, they corrected Longsword in Rise. Now you get all your helm breaker damage plus bonus damage to parts you didn't even hit! 👍🏾
It’s illegal for you to be this good
Daam bruh, poor alatreon, you completely destroyd him.
At 1:56 how do you make the attack right after the foresight slash?
Still an awesome run despite HB’s bullshit. Do you prefer Rise/Sunbreak’s helm breaker, do you like what they’ve done with it?
So far as I know that hitbox has always been janked to fuck and back
Alatreon：this is my sad story
still the best run, normal players unable to pull this off. GG Sir
5:15 Question, how?
How did you survive the supernova so easily?
属性の付いた武器で殴るとエスカトンジャッジメントの威力が低下します。
これは合計4段階で、2段階まで弱体化させれば耐えられます。
As said, awesome run... But a question.05:35. What was that clutch for?
When you flinch a monster, it starts drooling and gives you an opening.
Clutch Clawing to it resets the timer, giving you a bigger opening.
@@dinorex3464 that's some good info. I'll try it. Thx
@@NoDoSwLa if monster starts drooling, count to 2 seconds before u clutch onto it to reset
The hit box thing is not a bug, you are just breaking the game with your insane-ness ....
Y’all doing this in six min and I can’t even do it y’all a different breed love the content tho
Speedrunning for such low times needs incredible rng. Still, a world record is incredible!
Tbh I think the helmbreakers would have landed more consistently if you execute them completely perpendicular to Alatreon's head, though delayed hitboxes are not nice.
Nah it straight up doesnt matter. I've done the same and it somehow hits the wing.
I've hunted Alatreon 100 times with LS, this shit has occurred in every single hunt I've done, it doesn't matter how accurate you land it. This problem needs to be fixed, but I think it is too late.
you must be delusional
Cleanest finish I’ve ever seen my god
The helmsplitter damage hitbox stuff is RIDICULOUS. Your blad isn't ANYWHERE CLOSE to hitting ANYTHING BUT the head.
I don't know if they are going to fix this, i don't like to see monsters head inside a structure too, that's something annoying
Can you tell me what is your build cuz i don't know how to make builds and i am very good at fighting alatreon
Today is the day i first slayed this monster i have never been so happy for months
Better late than never lol
Omg today is the first time I slayed Alatreon too,I was so happy.
Eyyy congrats guys ✌🏽
That one proc you got on the tip of the wing looks valid considering your weapon did clip through his wing before he moved it back at the beginning of the helm splitter. Looks more like hitbox porn instead of just a bad hitbox. The neck procs though are completely BS
Imagine being more concerned with a hit box on your character than fighting a monster that's literally stated to be a bringer of destruction
not a hitbox problem. HB is just long continues damage and it must go somewhere. since there is not enought spot for the head to continue smaller slash of Helmbreaker and instead of stoping the damage completely it runs to the neck at certain angle.
What's the name of the layred armor he's wearing?
If the Spirit Helm Breaker change to 1hits, i think i will take it
@Mister Jaux just bump the multiplier to 5 XD
@Mister Jaux Tbh, helmbreaker has always had shitty ele multipliers, you only use it to dish out as much raw as possible
@@captainace1277 Well, from the release date elemental damage acts a bit weird in this game, like it's just an addiction. I think Crapcom could rework a little on how the elemental damage works.
@@namisauce9826 actually you would set it to 1.5 not 5 times since the hits only do 30% element for some reason just like the bows dragon piercer.
@@procow2274 yeah. its already quite hard to hit weak spots with HB with all the inconsistencies, plus a shitty multiplier. ngl im already having troubles hitting weak spots with HB cause the monsters keep moving an inch away
As a longsword player myself, the bug showcase made me genuinely mad. Such beautiful helmsplitters deserve better.
Those dodge is a BIG flex.
Bro, that run was amazing! Very well done!
Capcom seems to cut the budget alot when it comes to the favorite weapon in the game. I simply can't understand the mindset behind that
Im very certain that this video convinced low level hunters that you can speed run alatreon with dragon weapons. the amount of people that use dark claw without knowing he used a layered weapon and join my quest
Peppo, avrai sicuramente antenati samurai! Complimenti!
Lunastra: Aids
Alatreon: Cancer
Fatalis: Corona
Bro.... that was so dope and welled timed. I wish i played like that
Easy fix would be to reduce the amount of hits but increase dmg, or just make it a singular hit. Idk I'm not a game developer
I don't think I can argue with that single damage on the wing since you did slice it, but the damages on the neck is pretty bs
Whats ur layered armor called? Its beautiful
Can't wait for your Fatalis speedrun
may you share your build? I wanna try it out too please
Bruh out of topic but damn that golden look on the scythe when you spirit iai slash looks sick
I want to get more affinity early game how do I do it? Right now I’m getting pink rathian tracks
Every ls user now: Happy mh rise ls user noise.
How to get life steal from longsword attack? I Saw the picture of Twitter by peppo the skills just basically to improve damage, whats point im must to do to get that?
Holy crap this man is talented
Can someone explain why people sometimes clutch on a Monster to get closer, sometimes it looks it tooks more time then just normal running to him
Nice run! Looking forward to future updates.
so whats ur prefered or the best build for LS? i keep going for crit and atk both around lvl 6 and then either one or the other is at 7. also what food atk buff / drink are u using ? you doing 190 - 210 damage then to around 280 - 310 just hitting weak spots is soo broken even i dont get that high. also im not using any buff what so ever other then from the food of course.
Sei il Dio di monster hunter
Peppo ma che arma stai usando in questo video?
I always thought I keep missing the weak spot doing the helm breaker despite it doesnt look like it visually, so all this time its a god damn BUG!? Really Capcom!? Really!?