Notes about the video: 1. I cut out a LOT of unnecessary explanation for the story elements. So if something doesn't make sense, just ask, I have an extremely overcomplicated answer already. 2. The reason this video is so long compared to the previous 'What if?' is because there's a lot less to logically assume from an Enclave victory than a mutant army victory. Where the Master would have to then conquer the rest of world if he won, the Enclave simply kill everything when they win. So I had to make up a lot more stuff to happen in this episode as opposed to last episode. 3. I use a lot of non-canon stuff in this video like: Portland being a hellscape - Fallout The Frontier Bloomfield space center - Van Buren The Existence of an east coast Enclave during Fallout 2 - Possible, but not confirmed by canon 4. People keep asking about a part 2. It's not impossible for there to be a part 2 but, the story was meant to be concluded at the end, there's not much else that would happen. I may do a short follow up tying up any loose ends (yes that includes the Institute, stop asking) and covering any interesting suggestions if anyone wants to put any forward.
Question: Why wouldn't the Enclave make contact with Big MT? As for the Sierra Madre I'm sure the Enclave would kill (quite literally) for the matter processing units and hologram tech, yes the ghost people and the cloud may be a problem but they could just leave Frank Horrigan and a heavily armed squad there for a week or two. The matter processing units would be perfect for helping supply remote outposts and early settlements without GECKs, the gold would be added to the treasury and the holograms could be an infinant supply of soldiers and laborer's
@@Jaeger_Bishop America is a big place, most places aren't going to be found unless you're are looking for them, or they are a massive lightshow in the desert like Vegas. The smog cloud would completely obscure the Sierra Madre from vision.
@@TheOmegaInitiative . The only counter I would have is that The Enclave could find the Sierra Madre the same way the courier did, pick up a strange broadcast , probably mistake it for something like a second Vegas or if the Sierra Madre was in the Enclave's records, they could see it as a target to search for pre-war tech. Though the counter to that would be, it may just not be a high enough priority that they would ever stumble onto it before everything else happens. Great videos all around friendo, I've learned a lot about my second favorite faction in the franchise thanks to you. From the Brotherhood, Ad Victorium!
That was perfect...and quite realistic I'd say. The larger factions were always prone to infighting so an Enclave Civil War with the Brotherhood joining in on the "Anti-government" side is fitting.
This guy is fan-fic genius. He embraces memes. He creates compelling narratives. He creates long videos, and uses beloved (or bememed) characters as basis.
@@DrBrightstein Been there, done that. Saw my son bein born where a head nearly the size of a dodgeball with hair on it was pushed through my wifes vagina. When the shoulders passed I got a spurt of blood in my right eye and the doctor stitched her vagina due to a tear. I'm a 6ft 4, 270 pound black man living in Uganda for my entire life and giving birth ruined her vagina to an extent. I am not small either, well over 8 inches and girthy but our son loosened it up a lot. It's been 5 years since and it never fully recovered. That's life though I guess, I'm not small but after the birth of our son she was never the same in bed, have to give her anal to even get her to squirm these days.
I would totally play a Fallout spinoff set in this timeline. I would love to see a Fallout game where the world is FINALLY rebuilding back to full extent, rather than wooden shanty towns. Enclave or otherwise.
@@Salt-Upon-Woundss What this guy said. Fallout 1 & 2 are post-post-apocalypse games. Bethesda is the one that dragged it back to 50s Futurism post-apocalypse.
the weird thing about vegas lore is the NCR supposedly has rail lines and concrete bunkers. quarry junction is a revitalized quarry that's producing real building stones... yet the game is populated by dank ruins and tin shacks. i would love to see the 1940s normandy-esque bunkers that were supposed to be underway along the colorado... even if they were Potemkin forts where those who defended them were starving and low on ammo.
An RTS here would be great ala Age of Empires, Enclave Eastern, Vegas and Brotherhood play as a more Balanced faction who field Frontiersmen, more common Power armor and Security bots (with the excemption of late game Eastern Enclave units), Trident is a Powerhouse faction weilding more advanced and destructive weapons than the other factions and the Institute plays as a Subversive faction with infiltrator droids and Teleportation tech.
This scenario could easily be incorporated into an already made Fallout mod for Hearts of Iron IV. But yes, a true Fallout game with this storyline would be Legendary.
Maybe an RTS game similar to Tiberian Sun a war between a Guerilla/Subversive Brotherhood of Steel (Wasteland auxiliaries and more convetional Power armor and Vehicles with their East coast Enclave Allies as Elite units) and a Powerful Enclave (Strong Powerhouses and Advanced weaponry)
I love how everyone started to realize the potential of an Enclave campaign this year. Also, fun fact: We are 100 meters from your location and approaching rapidly. If we get there and you aren't in your power armor, private, there's gonna be HELL to pay.
YOU ARE OUT OF UNIFORM, SOLDIER! WHERE IS YOUR POWER ARMOR? DON'T HAVE ANY? YOU EXPECT ME TO BELIVE THAT, MAGGOT? THE TRUTH IS YOU LOST AN EXPENSIVE PIECE OF ARMY-ISSUE EQUIPMENT. THAT SUIT IS GOING TO COME OUT OF YOUR PAY AND YOU WILL REMAIN IN THIS MANS ARMY UNTIL YOU ARE FIVE HUNDRED AND TEN YEARS OLD WHICH IS THE NUMBER OF YEARS IT WILL TAKE FOR YOU TO PAY FOR A MARK II POWERED COMBAT ARMOR YOU HAVE LOST! REPORT TO THE ARMORY AND HAVE A NEW SUIT ISSUED TO YOU, THEN REPORT BACK TO ME, PRIVATE! # DISMISSED!
"As one last act defiance to Richardson the new union voted unanimously to throw down the old banner of the enclave as they were now once again Americans" I am not even American and brought shivers down my body, the speech and the music created this amazing video.
The Enclave winning FO2 means a ravage of all tech/advanced in the wasteland like the Brotherhood did, it would be 100% possible for the Enclave to take Big Mt, and convert it. I do like the idea of them taking over, cuz the faster and rapid develop of tech with more blueprints, resources ecc. But yes, the wasteland in general would be confused and with some hairbrows raised, the expanding of the Enclave should have been rather than immediate force, with more dialoque like the Romans did.
I wonder what was the east coast enclave doing at the time?Besides being filled with vault 76ers.In fallout 2 a map shows a bunch of enclave bunkers Ron Perlman said they were defeated but he also said the supermutants went extinct without the master in fallout 1
I was going to cover big mt, then I forgot, then I didn't care because it's entirely possible they wouldn't find it for ages and it wouldn't really impact the story.
I hope that at the end of the Fallout franchise the Enclave will win, rule over the US, do expeditions to other continents and make a peace treaty with Mr.House to build up a new space force.
I reckon House would probably attempt to get a radar station or other sensor system online shortly after the airborne toxin hit to see if anyone was still alive to exploit, and after realizing everyone was dead would probably attempt to scour the wastes for the chip with the securitrons since that would be the only option left to him, whether these attempts would bear fruit is entirely up to speculation but if successful, would make House a potential force to be reckoned with once the Enclave come knocking.
This isnt a better story then what Black isle which is now Obsidian could create they are the fathers of the ORIGINAL FALLOUT so hes adding to their vision not really creating any of this out of thin air hes working with assets and information from the 1st and 2nd game which were the best games story wise considering the company who birthed the game was writing it, when they came to fallout 3 they had to sell to Bethesda, Black isle was in a bad way financially and basically Bethesda swooped in like a vulture picking at an animals carcass and bought the fallout IP so that's when we got screwed, Van Buren in what could have been.......
@@natsudragneelthefiredragon not even better game mechanics, you not playing much of 3 and mainly 4 says it all.....sadly u need to play the original and the 2nd game, if u wanna talk about game mechanics and story, ur too young to understand
"It was the only way to deal with the abomination that was Portland." I laughed waaaay to hard at that, and I'm not even sure it was supposed to be a joke either.
Always glad to see more good Enclave faction. Surviving US government turned evil is an interesting idea. Usually governments don’t survive apocalypses
Wholesome enclave ending? This was so well done definitely earned a sub from me. This would be a super interesting alt history to follow in a game if they ever wanted to get more bleak. You can have super mutants survive from one of the East coast vaults. And you could play as one of the few who were naturally immune to the virus and had to watch everyone die.
@DeathToANTIFA and Robin Also what the fuck does the awful writing in fallout 3 have to do with new vegas. If new vegas never came out people would still be shit on. Not even fallout 3 fans like the main quest.
@DeathToANTIFA and Robin Well when I hear people defending fallout 3 its usually a fanboy shitting on new vegas. New Vegas has not aged well. The combat sucks and the last dlc put a backstory on you that shouldn't be there. Besides the fallout 3 fanboys flinging a lot of shit. Trying to drag down the other games to make 3 seem better than it is. 1, 2, and new vegas fanboys respond with angry arguments too. Both party's are guilty for shit flinging. I believe fallout 4 started the fire as a lot of people realized that 3 has many of the same issues as 4 that were ignored. Than went back to shit on it for being mediocre and defend it so Bethesda still gives them tickets to their events (oxhorn, MATN.) Cough.
@@12halo3 I've never minded the combat for the most part, although I do find the constant bullet decapitations to be an annoyance. I'll also completely agree with the last DLC putting a backstory on you being a pretty crappy thing. New Vega's big advantage for a long while was the PC being a very open slate. A shame Lonesome Road made it so canonically the Courier had been in the profession for years.
This is really well written. The themes and values of the Enclave are well portrayed. The details of the story both new and taken from existing lore are excellent.
I did not expect that ending to move me to tears that much, I generally saw Colonel Autumn as kinda a lame antagonist but this video legitimately made me care for how his story would end. RIP General Augustus Autumn.
I think the Enclave winning could mean a couple things. Mostly depending on the ideology of the current leaders. Like if they decide that a Colonel Autumn style mindset is better or if they go whole hog with the Richardson/Eden plan. It really comes down to if they go into genocidal purification or of they end up actually rebuilding. Also the Frontier bit was beautiful LONG LIVE THE SNEEDCLAVE
I mean, there's no longer anything to to genocide save for a few brotherhood of steel members and some Vault dwellers. 95% of the global population is dead, the world is empty.
@@RyoKasai25 Wasn't the Enclave's main goal was to genocide all radiation "infected" people, especially Super Mutants? Meaning Vault dwellers are actually one of the few people the Enclave would spare.
Honestly, the Enclave's victory and the Unity's success would be the two biggest timeline changes possible (as long as we don't change anything about prewar or the war itself)
I feel the Midwest Brotherhood of Steel would have been way more influencetal than the Westcoast Brotherhood. They were deployed before the events of Fallout 2, they canonically have Airships, and with out Wasteland interference they would have been unopposed in the Midwest Region.
So... would this mean that the Sole Survivor would wake up from their slumber in this new America? And would the Institute be discovered and become American citizens as well?
The institute would either hide forever or get pulverized the minute they step out of their hole, because believe me they would pick a fight. The sole survivor would eventually be discovered by the new Americans and would almost certainly be welcomed into the organization.
Sole Survivor (assuming Male) would be worth gold to the Enclave who seeks Old America, and someone who is a decorated war hero and “pureblooded” who experienced Old America military life would provide a lot of insight and historical record to the Enclave as well as obvious propaganda use.
@@roy6907 Considering Nate's background and the first mission in 4. It's near certain that he is the cannon SS a decorated veteran taking a deathclaw down is believable. A random lawyer not so much my two cents.
i will admit, i do love this and i wish this was an actual ending. its tragic for everyone who wasnt enclave but sadly autum wasnt in charge despite his desire not to kill everyone but instead control them via clean water access. also i noticed one crucial detail missing what happened to the man, the myth, the legend: Sargant Dornan-?
@@TheOmegaInitiative There's a mod for fnv called for the enclave which basically adds an enclave questline to the game , and it's very similar to the story of the video , two enclave factions fighting while you have the default nv factions going in as well. Richardson elite (bad guys) vs the normal enclave (the guys you work for). And funny enough , there's a character called Dornan Jr that assists you when you're attacking the Richardson elite's final base and will call you a maggot if you don't follow orders. The final boss is sup to be another mutant in power armor like frank horrigan except he wears modified mk2 instead of mk1 . If you have some free time , you should try the mod , it's pretty nice. The voice acting can get little shitty doe.
@@TheOmegaInitiative Dornan is an NCO. He would serve with distinction as first sergeant at Navarro and then probably retire if all goes well. Dornan doesn't have the makings of an officer, after all he works for a living.
Imagine if the Chosen One actually stood guard as exactly he/she was told to do by Sgt Dornen, being overwhelmed by his pure patrioticism and awe-terrifying presence.
Imagining this all play out as the video went on was like watching a movie in my imagination 10/10 writing wish you could’ve done a small bit about what happens when the Sole Survivor awakens
This is the first time I've ever heard anyone with an Australian accent talk about Fallout. It definitely added to the surreal aspect of an Enclave win. Great video mate, especially the part about Oregon LOL!
With all that Geck can do - transform surrounding matter into energy and recomposing it - in theory it could actually make more Gecks, giving anyone who possessed a single Geck in theory potentially infinite number of Gecks.
I’m calling it, this TH-camr definitely a enclave member and most likely is based near the east cost of America with how he seems to talk about raven rock so often
@@TheOmegaInitiative ah so you ARE part of the enclave, not to worry so am I. I would tell you were I'm based but the coms aren't secure enough...though I've just received orders form high command it's time for you and your unit to move out from position and join up with ours I'll send new the coordinates of your unit and mine ***** on ****** in the year of our lord **** good luck over and out
I always wondered how the enclave would fare with its plans if the master won fallout 1 meaning the west coast is run by unity. This also means no BOS detachment follows the fleeing super mutants east leaving the calculator active and setting up a 3 way clusterfuck of fallout antagonists
I don't care whether the Enclave are evil, or morally neutral. "Purifying" the United States of America in X-01 power armor, with plasma-based weaponry is simply badass. And patriotic.
to be fair the enclave aren't wrong i mean when the US first tested the nukes on the Nevada desert almost everyone in the US ended up getting hit with some levels of radiation now imagine that times 1000 so that is why our brave enclave are right in their holy and righteous crusade god bless america and god bless the enclave
Not meaning this to trigger anyone but this reminds me of the racial divide america always talks about. ie the enclave are white nationalists hence they are "purifying" the states. anyways i hope this doesn't trigger anyone or causes anyone to arguing (meaningless, mind you) over the internet. Thanks
I'm not saying anything about what happened, but IF anything did happen, it wouldn't be consensual. Besides, that would kill you, many of them killed themselves because of what they saw, which may have been anything.
"For us, the storm has passed... the war is over. But let us never forget those who journeyed into the howling dark and did not return. For their decision required courage beyond measure; sacrifice, and unshakable conviction that their fight... our fight, was elsewhere. As we start to rebuild, this hillside will remain barren, a memorial to heroes fallen. They ennobled all of us, and they shall not be forgotten." -Lord hood
The Enclave in the capital wasteland are the remnants of the west coast one, but at that point in the lore the enclave in Appalachia are most likely extinct. I wonder if the enclave in Chicago were there before fallout 2 or also from the west coast remnants
@@PHDInSevereInternetRetardation I would just assume east coast enclave was smaller because it was set up for politicians and not the president specifically like the oil rig
Yeah the president on the Apalachicola enclave will probably still try to "wipe out china" dispite everyone in china probably bring dead at that point so the whole civil war and the entire mess will probably still happen although the spread of the virus will most likely be slower since there's a lack of human host to spread it. So eh.
I find it pretty funny that we get this nice happy-ish ending, where America is rebuilt and there’s a bright future but you (the chosen one) gets killed and everyone else you play with in fallout 2 is forgotten about at the beginning of the video 😂
10 out of 10. What is going to be next for this series? How about a What if where Mr House found the Chip 20 years before FNV as a suggestion. Nice use of Mr House in your work. What does anyone think of that? Anything else?
I don't know, the idea was just: What if the Enclave won in Fallout 3? This what if genre is so broad I can basically do anything, so I haven't put too much thought into it yet.
@@TheOmegaInitiative That is a good idea what you have, If your interested I have some ideas of what House would do in the event of victory at Hover Dam.
@@TheOmegaInitiative What if the Institute came sown from the Commonwealth & suggested an alliance with the Enclave but keep their advanced tech a secret, as an idea.
@@TheOmegaInitiative i guess you could also make a what if episode that continues from where this one left off, cause we got a few cliff hangers here. For example, what happens with the institute? what about house and his chip, and all of his plans for space colonisation and stuff? Tho i guess the lack of a conflict would lead to a kinda boring episode, maybe. Only interesting thing that comes to mind would be seeing the reaction of the enclave to synths vs BOS's reaction. They are united now but there's still parts of the BOS that would hate synths i guess.
This is fantastic, Augustus Autumn became one of my favorite FO3 characters after I got past the fact he's the guy who caused Dad's death. He wanted to rebuild America and wanted to use project purity for its intended purpose and not use the FEV. His death at the end of this story gives him the heros end he deserves, rebuilding America in the process. Fantastic work!! This story is better than Fallout 4, you should be writing Fallout 5 man
If Fallout 5 was as forced to be pro Enclave to the point you could only join them just as much Fallout 3 was that way with the BOS I would not be disappointed. I actually want a game where the Enclave is the ending.
I am insanely curious about what what you would do with interactions between the Enclave and the Institute, I could see it very easily going both good or disastrous for everyone
Like I could absolutely see the enclave and institute getting along really well but also see them butting heads in the worst ways, like the enclave will probably want oversight over theur projects and who knows what CIT will think of that, and who knows what the enclave would think of synths, although they would probably love the new slave population
I think the Enclave and The Institute wouldn't get along as long as father is with the Institute they would but heads at all terms but if father was let's say executed or don't know kills himself maybe The Enclave and The Institute could get along the Institute could do some science for the enclave and if their science gets out of hand the enclave would hate them
I don't really know if we should consider the institute canon. FO4 just brings the quality of writing down so far. Like, the biggest problem with addressing the institute in something like this is that they literally do not have a written motivation. They did initially in the design documents, but some of the higher ups didn't get the memo apparently, because they wrote a bunch of shit that contradicted their intended motivation, and they decided to solve the conflicting information by just removing any information that directly states anything about why they're doing what they're doing. The Institute as presented in Fallout 4 is literally an unfinished faction. And the little snippets and hints that are left in game directly contradict each other. Its just a mess.
Enclave and mr house working together is admittedly an awesome concept and sadly not an option in new Vegas. Thanks for your take on this. Also, I have a concept I think you might find interesting: what if the enclave remnants allied with the Midwest BOS after their employ of super mutants, ghouls and Deathclaws in their ranks? I can see a decent sized group of Enclave making their way to the east coast and they come across the Midwest chapter. They notice their armor is similar to theirs and instead decide to compromise with them as they have resources and research to better aid the Midwest chapter and their coalition of mutants. I can see power armored super mutants, vastly more intelligent death claws and possibly more competent ghouls getting modified radiation absorption power armor to heal them in combat, insuring longer fighting capability. The Midwest B.O.S. Coalition makes their way to the east coast to Washington, contacting the East coast BOS chapter. Seeing the effectiveness of the coalition, the east coast chapter allows them to aid in the effort to fight back the east coast super mutants, thus making the brotherhood a stronger force in that region, even knowledgeable of Enclave tactics when the east coast enclave eventually makes contact.
It was a prewar experiment to make soldier's immune to radiation. It was the master that spread it with the believe that it's the next step in our evolution. It was also like the discovery of penicillin and it was completely by accident
I love this video so much, I'd love to see this story adapted to a novel or something else maybe either way this has me wanting more of this alternate fallout time-line
@@einfreundvonstilundklasse2352 You are going to love this. A bunch of leftys in a discord group decided to try and make a sequal to new Vegas called "Fallout new fronteer" or something of the like. In true lefty fashion it was filled with communist pandering, stolen story elements from other games, degeneracy and the developers own f€tishes including r@p€ and b€stial!ty... I wish I was joking. As the heroes of the hour a brigade from 4chan raided the Discord group, trolled the game into collapse and exposed the developers private messages, some of which included being intrested in minors and animals. If you want to enjoy a recount of the confrontation search "Sneedclave" on youtube (formerly chucks) There should be no shortage of videos if they are still up.
This was absolutly great! You are very good at both story telling and story creating. I would love if there was a game/mod following this story line, it would be my absolute dream. As always, great job.
Imagine Enclave soldiers re colonizing an empty wasteland mounted in XO-1 power armor 😍 of course that would be kinda boring and not very thematically interesting
@@Dorkeydaze well, if it was between the inner enclave war and we could choose who we helped while doing various types of missions for the side we choose, or even potentially helping the Brotherhood at some point, I think that would be more interesting for a fallout game.
@@As567na I think the enclave if they used the FEV would essentially colonize America pretty fast, and would simply use the vault dwellers as a new population source. Potentially across the United States in fallout there’s probably close to 100,000 pre war Americans in the vaults and in our real world people have up to 5 children in sub sharan Africa; imagine the United States with endless pre war loot, no monsters and millions of acres of vacant land. Essentially if the enclave ever won there’s no reason to assume fallout wouldn’t be like playing civilization. What makes fallout intriguing is the uniqueness of the factions, the risk of the wasteland and the struggle over philosophy and the FALLOUT of humanity and human behavior/philosophy. I think it would be best to introduce a new off shoot of the enclave in the next fallout but that won’t be for years, but we know the enclave have a presence in Chicago and that the brotherhood canonically did send airships but contact was lost with them, and that fallout brotherhood of steel in non canon but that doesn’t the brotherhood doesn’t have a presence there, a game set in the Midwest could be interesting for that reason alone.
@@As567na Though if I had the IP I would set the next fallout in Washington/Oregon. I would make the cannon ending to new Vegas the house/independent ending with Nevada being a buffer zone between the legion and new California. I would make the NCR desperate for new resources and so they expand out to Oregon and Washington desperate for food, water and sources for economy prosperity under the drain of new Vegas and the shrinking economy in California. They would come across a crusader state like the tectonic knights out in the forest who use T-45 PA like mid-evil knight armor and who use swords the length of bikes as there primary weapons. The main plot would revolve around rather or not the player aids the crusaders or the decaying NCR.
i love this alternate version and that version of Vegas is so cool and frank Horrigan still being the beast that he is. god bless America god bless the Enclave,
You have a passion. A magnificent trait. Don't ever lose it and keep going, because this is by far the greatest alternate history Fallout tale in existence.
"Augustus Autumn bled out, hand still clutching the abort switch..." I would request that you write an independent fallout story based on a continuation of the current setting. I would very much like you to be recognized for your incredible work and potential and I think expanding beyond the what if accounts would be a fantastic exposition of your abilities. Not that I don't already find myself enamored by your work, I simply think it might help you reach a larger audience and hopefully be another step in getting Bethesda to hire you to write the next game.
The Frontier dev team is not that bad, they had some bad one among them, but technically speaking thw frontier it's incredible. (plus if they will do a mod they basically only need to write dialogues. The problem in the frontier was weird ass shit, but with this the story is already done.
And houses plan to leave earth maybe better than it was before in search of a new planet would happen much faster .the launch would inspire millions to look to the stars nasa would be reformed after house upon launch of his colony ship transmits all of technological specs he had developed to new us government . with a speech saying my life's work is now complete earth is back on track .as a parting gift I give you the location and designs reverse engineered from the alien ship we found In orbit if mission succeed s maybe you come and join us one but until that day .you have America and earth as your new domain good luck and goodbye
Wait but what about the global genocide? All of Europe, Africa and Asia are gone. Is that worth a united America? (I don't give a crap about any American supremacy bull shit) Edit: coronal Autumn got a far better life than he did in fallout 3 so there is that👍
@@eagleowl833 they also killed most of america, so this is really a worst case scenario, total global genocide is definitely not worth a "united" america
@@eagleowl833 Well that's assuming that the whole world didn't have any bunker system to begin with eventhough there were already signs that a nuclear war would be inevitable. In any case, The Swiss will probably resettle Europe with their twice-as-many bunkers and any lucky nation that still had their bunkers will resettle the rest
I will keep insisting on this until someone actually makes a game. The way you have the Enclave win is where you start out in a game as a major Enclave cell and your character is sent out into the wastes to scout them out. In part this is done because there are factions in the Enclave - all to some extent or another want to wipe the slate clean but some want to find out if there is anything worth saving. Through your choices you can completely turn on the Enclave, side with 'annihilationists' in the Enclave, or do a number of quests that cause moderates to win out - perhaps even uniting the Brotherhood and the Enclave - and the game in that ending would end with a vow that reunited the Enclave - not just the US government will restore order to the wastes - take back what is rightfully those of every decent human with fire and sword. All monsters were will be exterminated, the land will be green again.
@@jackvernian7779 My point about that is that it is a way of having an outcome where the Enclave could win - and thus reestablishing them as a threat - without it being game over for the the game world and where they represent a strand of thought all players to some extent subscribe to 'kill all the monsters! They are scary!' Which may not be entirely the best choice but it is a very understandable choice. It would also mean that if the Enclave won in this way it would progress the game world and solidify some choices to be made down the road about what kind of world and government does a recovering USA want. Does it prize order and security (United Enclave of BoS and Enclave), does it prize a mix of security with some democratic accountability (New Cali Republic) or does it want everyone to be free ranging libertarians?
@@dewittbourchier7169 and my point is, your only realistic option is another 10+ year modding overhaul project which can turn out to be of bad quality. Bethesda is not going to make a game which is an "alternative scenario" to what they already have.
Excellent video, kept me glued to it the entire time, honestly, the narration is impeccable, and the story has really nice twists. I would love to see one of those with the premise of a Enclave ressurgence from Chicago, can't wait for the next video! Long live the Enclave, long live America, Semper Fi!
@@szymonbollin5074 Ehhhhh, the midwestern chapter is canon, but it's not canon that they control Chicago. It definitely seems like it could be a warzone between the Brotherhood and the Enclave like D.C.
Man it would be fun to have an entire game spin off of being a soldier/agent of the enclave and having to make your choice about defecting or continuing to try and protect and destroy threats to it. Maybe being one of the presidents secret service agents as the main character.
This is an absolutely "What If?" situation! Sadly it doesn't surprise me with the internal struggle from what we've seen in all these Fallout games. Honestly I would like to see the Enclave gain a sizable foothold in a Fallout game. Who knows how things would change? Keep up the amazing videos!
Definitely should do a part 2 including Boston and the institute as they would be a thing, the big empty would also be around as they are brains in jars, but this is really good story telling
Honestly that was amazing I would more than welcome a part two/expansion to the lore perhaps a longer video with more detail. Obviously a tall order but I haven’t been as excited about anything fallout since I played vegas. The dlcs and institute would be good for expansion as well as the other vaults gary/ what they do with info from the others
How was this not long enough? There's nothing left to cover. I already had to create so many story aspects because the Enclave winning in Fallout 2 would normally be pretty simple. There's no way I could add to this.
I don't know this video doesn't really need a part 2 all it needs is just an explain of what happened to The Institute and the Commonwealth and then it's done there's nothing really to do and that could just be speculation
@@TheOmegaInitiative I think that's the point, people love your created story aspects. Your deep knowledge of the lore fits well with what we understand of the Canon, and most people myself included would simply love to see either a slightly prolonged conclusion or a continuation in general. Not entirely necessary, and yes likely way more speculative, but your speculation seems to be what has your audience enthralled. Just something to consider for any future video.
@@TheOmegaInitiative Also be enclave is just incredibly popular, and content like this is so few and far between, anything you do of this nature is likely to be popular and highly requested.
Well tbh Frank is basically a behemoth with advanced power armor, heavy weapons, high regeneration, incredible strength, and his determination with all the other forces at the same time I think it makes sense
@@melonboi927I mean he listed everything but his kills. Also without his armor he is dead because he is a cyborg so it’s a part of him and is his lifeline
Well the secret service wouldn't be an organization capable of warfare, they would have likely merged with the Enclave when they returned to West Virginia though.
@@TheOmegaInitiative Oh. That's a good point! Though, you could've mentioned that because of the Secret Service, gold became a, let's say, "currency". By the way, this video's great. You're incredinly creative, mate!
Alright, I'm calling it out right now... I want to see this evolve into a mod series, because I would download this in a heartbeat This story is canon to me and nobody can change my mind, I honestly was choked up with joy in the ending, it was perfect and fitted the image of how I pictured an in game ending to go through, with the Enclave reforming into the American government God bless the Enclave... God bless America 🇺🇲
Always nice to see a story putting the Enclave in a good light, very good work. God bless the Enclave from your Canada division, and God bless america.
Yeah I really don’t know where I’d put the institute. I don’t think they would have revealed themselves until after the war, if at all. I’m assuming that synths would be put to work as the slave labor to begin the full rebuild process should the institute allow itself to fall into enclave hands.
@@andyn46 I guess Enclave would realize the use they can provide as slave labor and the masses will divide once more on if the synths are sentient or not. There isn’t a railroad considering their ancestors got gassed. The synths would in fact carry on as the institute did get a non genetically altered child. I assume the only ones to die would be any institute personnel who have gone to field tasks and this would be the new punishment other than banishment. My new question comes now in that wouldn’t Shawn and the sole survivor immediately die upon release from the pods?
@@eustacebagge5873 I think anyone underneath the ruins would have been safe from a gas attack. Shawn doesn’t step out into the wasteland for the first time until the end of Fallout 4 so he should be good. As far as the Sole Survivor goes, there’s a lot of possibilities I can think of. Shawn could have retrieved him once the Enclave presence in the area was known, and potentially used by the institute as a negotiator due to him being a soldier before the Great War if they wanted to create a truce. Having a member of the old world speaking to them would be a wet dream for Enclave higher ups
All i want to say is thank you. i use to watch this video because i loved the fallout sires and so did my dad before he died you been one of my fav youtubers since like 3 years now i want to thank you for the fine time i had watching this channel
If this was ever to be developed as a game or book in an alternative timeline, it would be awesome and I’d be buying immediately! Love that part in Oregon😂
Notes about the video:
1. I cut out a LOT of unnecessary explanation for the story elements. So if something doesn't make sense, just ask, I have an extremely overcomplicated answer already.
2. The reason this video is so long compared to the previous 'What if?' is because there's a lot less to logically assume from an Enclave victory than a mutant army victory. Where the Master would have to then conquer the rest of world if he won, the Enclave simply kill everything when they win. So I had to make up a lot more stuff to happen in this episode as opposed to last episode.
3. I use a lot of non-canon stuff in this video like:
Portland being a hellscape - Fallout The Frontier
Bloomfield space center - Van Buren
The Existence of an east coast Enclave during Fallout 2 - Possible, but not confirmed by canon
4. People keep asking about a part 2. It's not impossible for there to be a part 2 but, the story was meant to be concluded at the end, there's not much else that would happen. I may do a short follow up tying up any loose ends (yes that includes the Institute, stop asking) and covering any interesting suggestions if anyone wants to put any forward.
Question: Why wouldn't the Enclave make contact with Big MT? As for the Sierra Madre I'm sure the Enclave would kill (quite literally) for the matter processing units and hologram tech, yes the ghost people and the cloud may be a problem but they could just leave Frank Horrigan and a heavily armed squad there for a week or two.
The matter processing units would be perfect for helping supply remote outposts and early settlements without GECKs, the gold would be added to the treasury and the holograms could be an infinant supply of soldiers and laborer's
@@Jaeger_Bishop America is a big place, most places aren't going to be found unless you're are looking for them, or they are a massive lightshow in the desert like Vegas. The smog cloud would completely obscure the Sierra Madre from vision.
@@TheOmegaInitiative they couldve found the crashed satellite maybe near nipton
I love your vids man some of the best lore videos and theory’s ever :)
@@TheOmegaInitiative . The only counter I would have is that The Enclave could find the Sierra Madre the same way the courier did, pick up a strange broadcast , probably mistake it for something like a second Vegas or if the Sierra Madre was in the Enclave's records, they could see it as a target to search for pre-war tech.
Though the counter to that would be, it may just not be a high enough priority that they would ever stumble onto it before everything else happens.
Great videos all around friendo, I've learned a lot about my second favorite faction in the franchise thanks to you.
From the Brotherhood, Ad Victorium!
This truly does bring a tear to my eye
Best ending soldier. o7
Aye, same
*Sigh* If only....
It should
Edit sorry I ment to say fuck you
It dose solider… it really dose.
That was perfect...and quite realistic I'd say. The larger factions were always prone to infighting so an Enclave Civil War with the Brotherhood joining in on the "Anti-government" side is fitting.
+brotherhood getting accepted into America after the war.
Unlike irl larger faction are very prone to infighting
This guy is fan-fic genius.
He embraces memes.
He creates compelling narratives.
He creates long videos, and uses beloved (or bememed) characters as basis.
An inspiration to writers all over the wasteland
Now write her giving birth
@@DrBrightstein Been there, done that. Saw my son bein born where a head nearly the size of a dodgeball with hair on it was pushed through my wifes vagina. When the shoulders passed I got a spurt of blood in my right eye and the doctor stitched her vagina due to a tear. I'm a 6ft 4, 270 pound black man living in Uganda for my entire life and giving birth ruined her vagina to an extent. I am not small either, well over 8 inches and girthy but our son loosened it up a lot. It's been 5 years since and it never fully recovered.
That's life though I guess, I'm not small but after the birth of our son she was never the same in bed, have to give her anal to even get her to squirm these days.
@@DrBrightstein no
Bememed should not work as a word, yet here we are.
Horrigan: a walking monster of mutated flesh, power armor, and chems.
Some random private: *LEROY JEEEENKINS!*
420 likes. Can’t do it…
I still got my iguana bits
ya that seems about right
That private was a true American Hero. God bless.
Horrigan: A great patriot who died fighting for the sanctity of his country
*"It was the only way to deal with the abomination that is Portland."*
Sounds about right.
Post and pre war alike
It has a lot of enemies and enemies equals XP.
Portland should have been nuked to begin with. that place, even today, is hell to live in.
Any demcrat is a hell hole
It's still true to this day
I would totally play a Fallout spinoff set in this timeline.
I would love to see a Fallout game where the world is FINALLY rebuilding back to full extent, rather than wooden shanty towns. Enclave or otherwise.
It was rebuilding in the OG fallouts Bethesda for some reason prefers to create rubble themed shooters though
@@Salt-Upon-Woundss What this guy said. Fallout 1 & 2 are post-post-apocalypse games. Bethesda is the one that dragged it back to 50s Futurism post-apocalypse.
the weird thing about vegas lore is the NCR supposedly has rail lines and concrete bunkers. quarry junction is a revitalized quarry that's producing real building stones... yet the game is populated by dank ruins and tin shacks. i would love to see the 1940s normandy-esque bunkers that were supposed to be underway along the colorado... even if they were Potemkin forts where those who defended them were starving and low on ammo.
@@Robb1977 I think a lot of that is a time restraint thing unfortunately. Needed to reuse a lot of F3's assets to get the game playable
An RTS here would be great ala Age of Empires, Enclave Eastern, Vegas and Brotherhood play as a more Balanced faction who field Frontiersmen, more common Power armor and Security bots (with the excemption of late game Eastern Enclave units), Trident is a Powerhouse faction weilding more advanced and destructive weapons than the other factions and the Institute plays as a Subversive faction with infiltrator droids and Teleportation tech.
Mad respect to the Private who sacrificed himself. I hope he posthumously gets a Medal of Honor like Autumn.
If it was a game, he 100% would be a " playable side Protagonist" like the Hero of Kvatch in Oblivion
His name was Ollanius Pius!
@@KaoruSF I like to think that was this universes Lone Wanderer always doomed to Sacrifice himself for someone elses goal
Private you have permission to die Godspeed.
Problem is no one would be alive to know he did such a sacrifice and tell others.
I would kill for this to be a game dude you’re extremely creative
This scenario could easily be incorporated into an already made Fallout mod for Hearts of Iron IV.
But yes, a true Fallout game with this storyline would be Legendary.
Maybe an RTS game similar to Tiberian Sun a war between a Guerilla/Subversive Brotherhood of Steel (Wasteland auxiliaries and more convetional Power armor and Vehicles with their East coast Enclave Allies as Elite units) and a Powerful Enclave (Strong Powerhouses and Advanced weaponry)
Time for someone to make a mod for it from New Vegas or F3
sounds like something straight out of Metal Gear
Seconded,
Alternative Fallout games could be a cash-cow for Bethesda, all they need to do is hire this guy!
I love how everyone started to realize the potential of an Enclave campaign this year. Also, fun fact: We are 100 meters from your location and approaching rapidly. If we get there and you aren't in your power armor, private, there's gonna be HELL to pay.
YOU ARE OUT OF UNIFORM, SOLDIER! WHERE IS YOUR POWER ARMOR?
DON'T HAVE ANY?
YOU EXPECT ME TO BELIVE THAT, MAGGOT?
THE TRUTH IS YOU LOST AN EXPENSIVE PIECE OF ARMY-ISSUE EQUIPMENT.
THAT SUIT IS GOING TO COME OUT OF YOUR PAY
AND YOU WILL REMAIN IN THIS MANS ARMY UNTIL YOU ARE FIVE HUNDRED AND TEN YEARS OLD
WHICH IS THE NUMBER OF YEARS IT WILL TAKE FOR YOU TO PAY FOR A
MARK II POWERED COMBAT ARMOR YOU HAVE LOST!
REPORT TO THE ARMORY AND HAVE A NEW SUIT ISSUED TO YOU, THEN REPORT BACK TO ME, PRIVATE!
# DISMISSED!
I not private
Since when was the enclave present in Australia?
Uh.. me not have.
@@N3gativeR3FLUXsince building outposts across the world
The lone survivor from 4 would be lorded as an Enclave hod being that he is the most genetically pure human left alive.
Sole survivor.
@@ViktorEnjoyer won't be sole survivor since kellog"s gang is dead and no one kills the vault
@@motivateddad the institute would still be active though and they would find someone else to do it
Not to mention He was a US Army Soldier lmao, And I believe a Decorated One at that too.
Oh my God everyone in Vault 111 would be alive
"As one last act defiance to Richardson the new union voted unanimously to throw down the old banner of the enclave as they were now once again Americans"
I am not even American and brought shivers down my body, the speech and the music created this amazing video.
As an American, the flag change was a nice touch and homage to our nations creation. Much tears
The nation was born through rebellion, so it's fitting that it's reborn through a rebellion.
Makes me wanna go RAAAAAAAA🦅🦅🦅🦅🦅🇺🇸🇺🇸🇺🇸
The Nation of The Rebellion, shall be born as again
my nemesis
The Enclave winning FO2 means a ravage of all tech/advanced in the wasteland like the Brotherhood did, it would be 100% possible for the Enclave to take Big Mt, and convert it.
I do like the idea of them taking over, cuz the faster and rapid develop of tech with more blueprints, resources ecc.
But yes, the wasteland in general would be confused and with some hairbrows raised, the expanding of the Enclave should have been rather than immediate force, with more dialoque like the Romans did.
I wonder what was the east coast enclave doing at the time?Besides being filled with vault 76ers.In fallout 2 a map shows a bunch of enclave bunkers Ron Perlman said they were defeated but he also said the supermutants went extinct without the master in fallout 1
I was going to cover big mt, then I forgot, then I didn't care because it's entirely possible they wouldn't find it for ages and it wouldn't really impact the story.
I hope that at the end of the Fallout franchise the Enclave will win, rule over the US, do expeditions to other continents and make a peace treaty with Mr.House to build up a new space force.
@@authentic229.14 that would be interesting every us tired of BoS being in every game
@@magicman3163 the BOS is Bethesdas little Baby
I reckon House would probably attempt to get a radar station or other sensor system online shortly after the airborne toxin hit to see if anyone was still alive to exploit, and after realizing everyone was dead would probably attempt to scour the wastes for the chip with the securitrons since that would be the only option left to him, whether these attempts would bear fruit is entirely up to speculation but if successful, would make House a potential force to be reckoned with once the Enclave come knocking.
I am not so sure about this but he might be able to send a signal to liberty prime to have a more advanced robot or the institute could help
@@Juniper_2007 Liberty Prime would still be all boxed up under the Pentagon by this time.
@@cipherxi8513 yeah It would make sense
House not having the chip is the difference between him being a threat and potential ally
@@cipherxi8513 could you imagine house with prime. father and son?
It’s sad to see that a fan can make a story 10x better than a billion dollar company.
sad sad truth
Video games are an artform and profit seeking investors make for bad artists.
This isnt a better story then what Black isle which is now Obsidian could create they are the fathers of the ORIGINAL FALLOUT so hes adding to their vision not really creating any of this out of thin air hes working with assets and information from the 1st and 2nd game which were the best games story wise considering the company who birthed the game was writing it, when they came to fallout 3 they had to sell to Bethesda, Black isle was in a bad way financially and basically Bethesda swooped in like a vulture picking at an animals carcass and bought the fallout IP so that's when we got screwed, Van Buren in what could have been.......
@@jaredlittlejohn6883 Better game mechanics though, but I'd still love to see what could have been
I've only played 4 mainly, and a bit of 3
@@natsudragneelthefiredragon not even better game mechanics, you not playing much of 3 and mainly 4 says it all.....sadly u need to play the original and the 2nd game, if u wanna talk about game mechanics and story, ur too young to understand
"It was the only way to deal with the abomination that was Portland." I laughed waaaay to hard at that, and I'm not even sure it was supposed to be a joke either.
I lauhhed at "was Portland."
This brought tears to my eyes, as it meant that hope exists that my home city can be purified!
Don’t you guys think that Fallout Frontier is overly hated?
@@uria3679 nope
@@uria3679 You're joking, right?
Tbh the frontier is way, way too overhated
I love that you embraced the meme of the Enclave utterly destroying the Frontier. President John Henry Sneeden would be proud.
I just got the feeling we weren't welcome there.
Based and sneedclavepilled
@@TheOmegaInitiative trust me man…. You don’t wanna go, I survived my journey.
The best part of the Video, No doubt
God bless the Sneedclave
As someone who roleplays an Enclave soldier in Fallout 76, I love that you included the Appalachian Enclave.
Same
I wish there were more members in 76
@@reliquiasimperiiima join y’all as a Kanye West Enclave Officer. Just gotta level up more
Damn Autumn, the hero we didn’t know we don’t deserve.
I love the lore accuracy. Portland is definitely an overinfested hellscape.
are you talking about the fallout timeline or our timeline
@@CausticSpace Ours. Definitely
@@FullMetalSunbro Definitely
Oregon’s only purpose was for a video game. Why is it still a thing??
@@noirekuroraigami2270 Idk devs must have left it after they stopped updates.
Always glad to see more good Enclave faction. Surviving US government turned evil is an interesting idea. Usually governments don’t survive apocalypses
I know, right?
The enclave is like a patriotic illuminati not really the entire governing body
Turned evil? They were kinda evil from the start, they just had more free reign to do as they please now
"US government _turned_ evil"
Always was
@@Kolokommouna lol, especially in the fallout universe, they were the ones to commission the vaults XD
Wholesome enclave ending? This was so well done definitely earned a sub from me.
This would be a super interesting alt history to follow in a game if they ever wanted to get more bleak. You can have super mutants survive from one of the East coast vaults. And you could play as one of the few who were naturally immune to the virus and had to watch everyone die.
I actually like how happy this story is, its a story that's ending is so good its not dark enough to be a movie or game
""""""""Wholesome""""""""
The sacrifice of this version's Autumn actually moved me to tear.
better character building than fallout 3 honestly.
@DeathToANTIFA and Robin No that would be halo 3 and fallout brotherhood of steel.
@DeathToANTIFA and Robin Also what the fuck does the awful writing in fallout 3 have to do with new vegas. If new vegas never came out people would still be shit on. Not even fallout 3 fans like the main quest.
@DeathToANTIFA and Robin Well when I hear people defending fallout 3 its usually a fanboy shitting on new vegas. New Vegas has not aged well. The combat sucks and the last dlc put a backstory on you that shouldn't be there. Besides the fallout 3 fanboys flinging a lot of shit. Trying to drag down the other games to make 3 seem better than it is. 1, 2, and new vegas fanboys respond with angry arguments too. Both party's are guilty for shit flinging. I believe fallout 4 started the fire as a lot of people realized that 3 has many of the same issues as 4 that were ignored. Than went back to shit on it for being mediocre and defend it so Bethesda still gives them tickets to their events (oxhorn, MATN.) Cough.
@@12halo3 I've never minded the combat for the most part, although I do find the constant bullet decapitations to be an annoyance. I'll also completely agree with the last DLC putting a backstory on you being a pretty crappy thing. New Vega's big advantage for a long while was the PC being a very open slate. A shame Lonesome Road made it so canonically the Courier had been in the profession for years.
This is really well written. The themes and values of the Enclave are well portrayed. The details of the story both new and taken from existing lore are excellent.
What if there is an Enclave counterpart in Europe or Asia?
I did not expect that ending to move me to tears that much, I generally saw Colonel Autumn as kinda a lame antagonist but this video legitimately made me care for how his story would end. RIP General Augustus Autumn.
Autumn died so that no longer would the Enclave be the Enclave - it would be America
I think the Enclave winning could mean a couple things. Mostly depending on the ideology of the current leaders. Like if they decide that a Colonel Autumn style mindset is better or if they go whole hog with the Richardson/Eden plan. It really comes down to if they go into genocidal purification or of they end up actually rebuilding.
Also the Frontier bit was beautiful
LONG LIVE THE SNEEDCLAVE
My thoughts exactly
For the Holy Land
I mean, there's no longer anything to to genocide save for a few brotherhood of steel members and some Vault dwellers. 95% of the global population is dead, the world is empty.
There is no hope here, no higher power, only suffering and misery
@@RyoKasai25 Wasn't the Enclave's main goal was to genocide all radiation "infected" people, especially Super Mutants? Meaning Vault dwellers are actually one of the few people the Enclave would spare.
Honestly, the Enclave's victory and the Unity's success would be the two biggest timeline changes possible (as long as we don't change anything about prewar or the war itself)
yes
Or Tandi being killed, but the Unity still being defeated by the Vault Dweller. That could be interesting
I feel the Midwest Brotherhood of Steel would have been way more influencetal than the Westcoast Brotherhood. They were deployed before the events of Fallout 2, they canonically have Airships, and with out Wasteland interference they would have been unopposed in the Midwest Region.
Well they're in Chicago, not California, so it doesn't really work out.
So... would this mean that the Sole Survivor would wake up from their slumber in this new America? And would the Institute be discovered and become American citizens as well?
The institute would either hide forever or get pulverized the minute they step out of their hole, because believe me they would pick a fight. The sole survivor would eventually be discovered by the new Americans and would almost certainly be welcomed into the organization.
Sole Survivor (assuming Male) would be worth gold to the Enclave who seeks Old America, and someone who is a decorated war hero and “pureblooded” who experienced Old America military life would provide a lot of insight and historical record to the Enclave as well as obvious propaganda use.
@@roy6907 also no shaun stolen and nora alive, the ss would live a new americana life.
@@roy6907 Considering Nate's background and the first mission in 4. It's near certain that he is the cannon SS a decorated veteran taking a deathclaw down is believable. A random lawyer not so much my two cents.
@@TheOmegaInitiative if people discover synths it would most likely be pinned on the us government until discovery
I love how you made the ending actually feel like an ending of Fallout 3 and New Vegas
Some people just don't realise the folly of being a king without a kingdom
i will admit, i do love this and i wish this was an actual ending. its tragic for everyone who wasnt enclave but sadly autum wasnt in charge despite his desire not to kill everyone but instead control them via clean water access.
also i noticed one crucial detail missing
what happened to the man, the myth, the legend: Sargant Dornan-?
The only thought I had put into it was making him the new Navarro base commander, but that wasn't crucial to the story.
@@TheOmegaInitiative but is it (your) canon?
@@atomikcosmonaut522 Yes, I would say that in this timeline that Dornan became base commander.
@@TheOmegaInitiative There's a mod for fnv called for the enclave which basically adds an enclave questline to the game , and it's very similar to the story of the video , two enclave factions fighting while you have the default nv factions going in as well. Richardson elite (bad guys) vs the normal enclave (the guys you work for). And funny enough , there's a character called Dornan Jr that assists you when you're attacking the Richardson elite's final base and will call you a maggot if you don't follow orders. The final boss is sup to be another mutant in power armor like frank horrigan except he wears modified mk2 instead of mk1 . If you have some free time , you should try the mod , it's pretty nice. The voice acting can get little shitty doe.
@@TheOmegaInitiative Dornan is an NCO. He would serve with distinction as first sergeant at Navarro and then probably retire if all goes well. Dornan doesn't have the makings of an officer, after all he works for a living.
Imagine if the Chosen One actually stood guard as exactly he/she was told to do by Sgt Dornen, being overwhelmed by his pure patrioticism and awe-terrifying presence.
Imagining this all play out as the video went on was like watching a movie in my imagination
10/10 writing wish you could’ve done a small bit about what happens when the Sole Survivor awakens
Part 2
@@TheOmegaInitiative Swear to god I’m waiting right here
Man I always felt like the Sole Survivor would have joined the Enclave in a heartbeat. They're former US Army afterall
This is the first time I've ever heard anyone with an Australian accent talk about Fallout. It definitely added to the surreal aspect of an Enclave win. Great video mate, especially the part about Oregon LOL!
Thanks, glad you liked it
With all that Geck can do - transform surrounding matter into energy and recomposing it - in theory it could actually make more Gecks, giving anyone who possessed a single Geck in theory potentially infinite number of Gecks.
Harvard wants to give you a scholarship
this is some plug the extension cable into itself for infinite power level of science
I’m calling it, this TH-camr definitely a enclave member and most likely is based near the east cost of America with how he seems to talk about raven rock so often
A bit off there bud, just you wait till next vid though
@@TheOmegaInitiative ah so you ARE part of the enclave, not to worry so am I. I would tell you were I'm based but the coms aren't secure enough...though I've just received orders form high command it's time for you and your unit to move out from position and join up with ours I'll send new the coordinates of your unit and mine
***** on ****** in the year of our lord **** good luck over and out
@@Berserker3624 ofc ur name is British imperial and ur role playing has the enclave 😂
@@skyninjaslayer337 I'm just having some fun
@@Berserker3624 ik I am not judging u or anything idc what
Now that's a good story, wouldn't mind that being cannon
I always wondered how the enclave would fare with its plans if the master won fallout 1 meaning the west coast is run by unity. This also means no BOS detachment follows the fleeing super mutants east leaving the calculator active and setting up a 3 way clusterfuck of fallout antagonists
Omega Initiative made a video about that too
I don't care whether the Enclave are evil, or morally neutral.
"Purifying" the United States of America in X-01 power armor, with plasma-based weaponry is simply badass. And patriotic.
God bless the Enclave. God bless America.
Emphasis on "Patriotic."
Let's DO *THIS!*
to be fair the enclave aren't wrong i mean when the US first tested the nukes on the Nevada desert almost everyone in the US ended up getting hit with some levels of radiation now imagine that times 1000 so that is why our brave enclave are right in their holy and righteous crusade god bless america and god bless the enclave
God Bless America... And No one else...
Not meaning this to trigger anyone but this reminds me of the racial divide america always talks about. ie the enclave are white nationalists hence they are "purifying" the states. anyways i hope this doesn't trigger anyone or causes anyone to arguing (meaningless, mind you) over the internet. Thanks
Dont tell me the enclave soldiers screwed a deathclaw while in portland
I'm not saying anything about what happened, but IF anything did happen, it wouldn't be consensual. Besides, that would kill you, many of them killed themselves because of what they saw, which may have been anything.
Truth is, the Deathclaw was fornicated with from the start
@@captainclout5460 frick ew
No tolerance allowed
Wtf is happening I hink I need to play that mod.
"For us, the storm has passed... the war is over. But let us never forget those who journeyed into the howling dark and did not return. For their decision required courage beyond measure; sacrifice, and unshakable conviction that their fight... our fight, was elsewhere. As we start to rebuild, this hillside will remain barren, a memorial to heroes fallen. They ennobled all of us, and they shall not be forgotten." -Lord hood
I’m wondering what was the east coast enclave doing before they met the west coast chapter in Fallout 3?
The Enclave in the capital wasteland are the remnants of the west coast one, but at that point in the lore the enclave in Appalachia are most likely extinct.
I wonder if the enclave in Chicago were there before fallout 2 or also from the west coast remnants
Hopefully we'll see next year in Fallout 76.
@@PHDInSevereInternetRetardation I would just assume east coast enclave was smaller because it was set up for politicians and not the president specifically like the oil rig
@@TheOmegaInitiative I have some REALLY bad news for us
Yeah the president on the Apalachicola enclave will probably still try to "wipe out china" dispite everyone in china probably bring dead at that point so the whole civil war and the entire mess will probably still happen although the spread of the virus will most likely be slower since there's a lack of human host to spread it. So eh.
I find it pretty funny that we get this nice happy-ish ending, where America is rebuilt and there’s a bright future but you (the chosen one) gets killed and everyone else you play with in fallout 2 is forgotten about at the beginning of the video 😂
Because if you have something "fix" all the problems there's no point for the MCs
bethesda needs to hire you, holy shit this is one of the most creative and realistic alternate universes for fallout i’ve ever seen
You have gotten quite good at presenting, most notably your tempo of speaking. Very good!
I ain't doing anything this long again anytime soon.
@@TheOmegaInitiative May I ask when this series will return?
@@JRYYD This series is every second upload.
@@TheOmegaInitiative Thanks for the response, is there a poll or something where suggestions can be given.
@@JRYYD A poll would just be voting on five different options, any suggestions I get will probably be videos eventually if they aren't terrible.
10 out of 10.
What is going to be next for this series?
How about a What if where Mr House found the Chip 20 years before FNV as a suggestion.
Nice use of Mr House in your work.
What does anyone think of that? Anything else?
I don't know, the idea was just: What if the Enclave won in Fallout 3? This what if genre is so broad I can basically do anything, so I haven't put too much thought into it yet.
@@TheOmegaInitiative That is a good idea what you have, If your interested I have some ideas of what House would do in the event of victory at Hover Dam.
@@TheOmegaInitiative What if the Institute came sown from the Commonwealth & suggested an alliance with the Enclave but keep their advanced tech a secret, as an idea.
Or Hb what if mr house actually got the chip before the war?
@@TheOmegaInitiative i guess you could also make a what if episode that continues from where this one left off, cause we got a few cliff hangers here. For example, what happens with the institute? what about house and his chip, and all of his plans for space colonisation and stuff? Tho i guess the lack of a conflict would lead to a kinda boring episode, maybe. Only interesting thing that comes to mind would be seeing the reaction of the enclave to synths vs BOS's reaction. They are united now but there's still parts of the BOS that would hate synths i guess.
This is fantastic, Augustus Autumn became one of my favorite FO3 characters after I got past the fact he's the guy who caused Dad's death. He wanted to rebuild America and wanted to use project purity for its intended purpose and not use the FEV. His death at the end of this story gives him the heros end he deserves, rebuilding America in the process. Fantastic work!! This story is better than Fallout 4, you should be writing Fallout 5 man
If Fallout 5 was as forced to be pro Enclave to the point you could only join them just as much Fallout 3 was that way with the BOS I would not be disappointed. I actually want a game where the Enclave is the ending.
I am insanely curious about what what you would do with interactions between the Enclave and the Institute, I could see it very easily going both good or disastrous for everyone
That would be my favorite interaction.
Institute: Science!!
Enclave: Welcome to the Family 🤝
Like I could absolutely see the enclave and institute getting along really well but also see them butting heads in the worst ways, like the enclave will probably want oversight over theur projects and who knows what CIT will think of that, and who knows what the enclave would think of synths, although they would probably love the new slave population
I think the Enclave and The Institute wouldn't get along as long as father is with the Institute they would but heads at all terms but if father was let's say executed or don't know kills himself maybe The Enclave and The Institute could get along the Institute could do some science for the enclave and if their science gets out of hand the enclave would hate them
I don't really know if we should consider the institute canon. FO4 just brings the quality of writing down so far. Like, the biggest problem with addressing the institute in something like this is that they literally do not have a written motivation. They did initially in the design documents, but some of the higher ups didn't get the memo apparently, because they wrote a bunch of shit that contradicted their intended motivation, and they decided to solve the conflicting information by just removing any information that directly states anything about why they're doing what they're doing. The Institute as presented in Fallout 4 is literally an unfinished faction. And the little snippets and hints that are left in game directly contradict each other. Its just a mess.
@@christophervoiers8517 Pretty sure father may not be a factor.
Enclave and mr house working together is admittedly an awesome concept and sadly not an option in new Vegas. Thanks for your take on this. Also, I have a concept I think you might find interesting: what if the enclave remnants allied with the Midwest BOS after their employ of super mutants, ghouls and Deathclaws in their ranks? I can see a decent sized group of Enclave making their way to the east coast and they come across the Midwest chapter. They notice their armor is similar to theirs and instead decide to compromise with them as they have resources and research to better aid the Midwest chapter and their coalition of mutants. I can see power armored super mutants, vastly more intelligent death claws and possibly more competent ghouls getting modified radiation absorption power armor to heal them in combat, insuring longer fighting capability. The Midwest B.O.S. Coalition makes their way to the east coast to Washington, contacting the East coast BOS chapter. Seeing the effectiveness of the coalition, the east coast chapter allows them to aid in the effort to fight back the east coast super mutants, thus making the brotherhood a stronger force in that region, even knowledgeable of Enclave tactics when the east coast enclave eventually makes contact.
This has to be one of the best lore/alternative lore videos I have ever watched. Well done!
I thought that the FEV toxin made by the Enclave also killed mutated animals and creatures as well
It was a prewar experiment to make soldier's immune to radiation. It was the master that spread it with the believe that it's the next step in our evolution. It was also like the discovery of penicillin and it was completely by accident
You are thinking of the modified fev strain edin wants you to inject into project purity
@@Doc_Hawk Thanks Doc, I figured as much
I love this video so much, I'd love to see this story adapted to a novel or something else maybe either way this has me wanting more of this alternate fallout time-line
ngl this sounds like a better version than what we got.
"The nuke was the only way to deal with the nightmare that is portland" yeah this is pretty accurate
It really is
having witnessed portland in real life i cant help but agree
god bless the enclave
Honestly it's the only morally correct thing the enclave has done
Sry but what even was that Lizard thing? Is that from a Mod or something?
@@einfreundvonstilundklasse2352 You are going to love this.
A bunch of leftys in a discord group decided to try and make a sequal to new Vegas called "Fallout new fronteer" or something of the like.
In true lefty fashion it was filled with communist pandering, stolen story elements from other games, degeneracy and the developers own f€tishes including r@p€ and b€stial!ty... I wish I was joking.
As the heroes of the hour a brigade from 4chan raided the Discord group, trolled the game into collapse and exposed the developers private messages, some of which included being intrested in minors and animals.
If you want to enjoy a recount of the confrontation search "Sneedclave" on youtube (formerly chucks)
There should be no shortage of videos if they are still up.
This was absolutly great! You are very good at both story telling and story creating. I would love if there was a game/mod following this story line, it would be my absolute dream. As always, great job.
Imagine Enclave soldiers re colonizing an empty wasteland mounted in XO-1 power armor 😍 of course that would be kinda boring and not very thematically interesting
@@Dorkeydaze well, if it was between the inner enclave war and we could choose who we helped while doing various types of missions for the side we choose, or even potentially helping the Brotherhood at some point, I think that would be more interesting for a fallout game.
@@As567na
I think the enclave if they used the FEV would essentially colonize America pretty fast, and would simply use the vault dwellers as a new population source. Potentially across the United States in fallout there’s probably close to 100,000 pre war Americans in the vaults and in our real world people have up to 5 children in sub sharan Africa; imagine the United States with endless pre war loot, no monsters and millions of acres of vacant land. Essentially if the enclave ever won there’s no reason to assume fallout wouldn’t be like playing civilization. What makes fallout intriguing is the uniqueness of the factions, the risk of the wasteland and the struggle over philosophy and the FALLOUT of humanity and human behavior/philosophy. I think it would be best to introduce a new off shoot of the enclave in the next fallout but that won’t be for years, but we know the enclave have a presence in Chicago and that the brotherhood canonically did send airships but contact was lost with them, and that fallout brotherhood of steel in non canon but that doesn’t the brotherhood doesn’t have a presence there, a game set in the Midwest could be interesting for that reason alone.
@@As567na
Though if I had the IP I would set the next fallout in Washington/Oregon. I would make the cannon ending to new Vegas the house/independent ending with Nevada being a buffer zone between the legion and new California. I would make the NCR desperate for new resources and so they expand out to Oregon and Washington desperate for food, water and sources for economy prosperity under the drain of new Vegas and the shrinking economy in California. They would come across a crusader state like the tectonic knights out in the forest who use T-45 PA like mid-evil knight armor and who use swords the length of bikes as there primary weapons. The main plot would revolve around rather or not the player aids the crusaders or the decaying NCR.
@@Dorkeydaze that sounds cool. And yeah, Mr House ending is the canon ending of New Vegas. Outer worlds references that.
The interesting thing is the Sole Survivor would be alive. Due to him/her being in a vault, the Institute would also still be around
i love this alternate version and that version of Vegas is so cool and frank Horrigan still being the beast that he is. god bless America god bless the Enclave,
You have a passion. A magnificent trait. Don't ever lose it and keep going, because this is by far the greatest alternate history Fallout tale in existence.
"Augustus Autumn bled out, hand still clutching the abort switch..."
I would request that you write an independent fallout story based on a continuation of the current setting. I would very much like you to be recognized for your incredible work and potential and I think expanding beyond the what if accounts would be a fantastic exposition of your abilities. Not that I don't already find myself enamored by your work, I simply think it might help you reach a larger audience and hopefully be another step in getting Bethesda to hire you to write the next game.
Really good fuckin story, worth every second. My only gripe is the lack of a Big MT takeover/alliance, 10/10 regardless.
Institute would’ve been worth a mention too but this was 10 10
This was absolutely amazing I hope a major modding group (not the frontier one) finds this and turns it into a real thing.
The Frontier dev team is not that bad, they had some bad one among them, but technically speaking thw frontier it's incredible.
(plus if they will do a mod they basically only need to write dialogues.
The problem in the frontier was weird ass shit, but with this the story is already done.
The Frontier modding team is amazing but the one's in charge could only be described as man babies
imagine if the chosen one survived and kept pretending to be enclave, that'd be really cool
Honestly this is a better ending than what we actually got. A United America.
And houses plan to leave earth maybe better than it was before in search of a new planet would happen much faster .the launch would inspire millions to look to the stars nasa would be reformed after house upon launch of his colony ship transmits all of technological specs he had developed to new us government . with a speech saying my life's work is now complete earth is back on track .as a parting gift I give you the location and designs reverse engineered from the alien ship we found In orbit if mission succeed s maybe you come and join us one but until that day .you have America and earth as your new domain good luck and goodbye
Wait but what about the global genocide? All of Europe, Africa and Asia are gone. Is that worth a united America? (I don't give a crap about any American supremacy bull shit)
Edit: coronal Autumn got a far better life than he did in fallout 3 so there is that👍
@@eagleowl833 they also killed most of america, so this is really a worst case scenario, total global genocide is definitely not worth a "united" america
@@eagleowl833 Well that's assuming that the whole world didn't have any bunker system to begin with eventhough there were already signs that a nuclear war would be inevitable. In any case, The Swiss will probably resettle Europe with their twice-as-many bunkers and any lucky nation that still had their bunkers will resettle the rest
@@arthurschmidt3104 it is cruel, but I guess if it's necessary to end the suffering and help everybody thrive it would be the next best option
GOD I wish this was made into a canon game. You talk about an AWESOME way to send the Fallout series.
MAN! This was awesome to watch! I swear, Black Isle and Obsidian might actually have done something similar. Seriously, fantastic work, friend!
I will keep insisting on this until someone actually makes a game. The way you have the Enclave win is where you start out in a game as a major Enclave cell and your character is sent out into the wastes to scout them out. In part this is done because there are factions in the Enclave - all to some extent or another want to wipe the slate clean but some want to find out if there is anything worth saving. Through your choices you can completely turn on the Enclave, side with 'annihilationists' in the Enclave, or do a number of quests that cause moderates to win out - perhaps even uniting the Brotherhood and the Enclave - and the game in that ending would end with a vow that reunited the Enclave - not just the US government will restore order to the wastes - take back what is rightfully those of every decent human with fire and sword. All monsters were will be exterminated, the land will be green again.
not canon, so not going to happen
@@jackvernian7779 My point about that is that it is a way of having an outcome where the Enclave could win - and thus reestablishing them as a threat - without it being game over for the the game world and where they represent a strand of thought all players to some extent subscribe to 'kill all the monsters! They are scary!' Which may not be entirely the best choice but it is a very understandable choice. It would also mean that if the Enclave won in this way it would progress the game world and solidify some choices to be made down the road about what kind of world and government does a recovering USA want. Does it prize order and security (United Enclave of BoS and Enclave), does it prize a mix of security with some democratic accountability (New Cali Republic) or does it want everyone to be free ranging libertarians?
@@dewittbourchier7169 and my point is, your only realistic option is another 10+ year modding overhaul project which can turn out to be of bad quality.
Bethesda is not going to make a game which is an "alternative scenario" to what they already have.
@@jackvernian7779 Yeah except this game would be set just after Fallout 4. So it would not be un-canon.
@@dewittbourchier7169 there are no major enclave cells during fallout 4 afaik
I'd say Charlie team got the short end of the stick when it comes to the expansionary forces
I love how you put your own twist on your video's instead of just saying that they did this... the end.
Excellent video, kept me glued to it the entire time, honestly, the narration is impeccable, and the story has really nice twists.
I would love to see one of those with the premise of a Enclave ressurgence from Chicago, can't wait for the next video!
Long live the Enclave, long live America, Semper Fi!
Chicago belongs to mid western chapter
@@szymonbollin5074 Ehhhhh, the midwestern chapter is canon, but it's not canon that they control Chicago. It definitely seems like it could be a warzone between the Brotherhood and the Enclave like D.C.
@@TheOmegaInitiative Yeah sadly we both got nuked by voult dweller from fallout California
That was an excellent watch. Definitely worth the wait
Yeas, his Videos are very good.
Man it would be fun to have an entire game spin off of being a soldier/agent of the enclave and having to make your choice about defecting or continuing to try and protect and destroy threats to it.
Maybe being one of the presidents secret service agents as the main character.
This is an absolutely "What If?" situation! Sadly it doesn't surprise me with the internal struggle from what we've seen in all these Fallout games.
Honestly I would like to see the Enclave gain a sizable foothold in a Fallout game. Who knows how things would change?
Keep up the amazing videos!
I think a game based in the chigago area would be great. Enclave vs Brotherhood vs NCR researchers vs what frontier-type horrors we see in the city.
I could honestly see this happening if the chosen one had failed his mission. Great work!
I wish modders are going to work with this channel to create a DLC-sized Mod. I'd pay for this to be a playable reality
You are one good author. This story had
me hooked and you actually made me anxious with how close the ending got.
Whole new look at autumn that was amazing
You can tell this guy really likes colonel autumn. Every time there’s a what if involving the enclave, autumn is a hero.
I want to play this version of the game honestly I love the Enclave and playing through a post apocalyptic civil war would be badass
Best content for a "WHAT IF..." scenario FALLOUT game. Well done.
Definitely should do a part 2 including Boston and the institute as they would be a thing, the big empty would also be around as they are brains in jars, but this is really good story telling
That was ssooooo gooood. Please make more of those. Thought was going to listen on the background but got glued to the screen for the whole time
Honestly that was amazing I would more than welcome a part two/expansion to the lore perhaps a longer video with more detail. Obviously a tall order but I haven’t been as excited about anything fallout since I played vegas. The dlcs and institute would be good for expansion as well as the other vaults gary/ what they do with info from the others
How was this not long enough? There's nothing left to cover. I already had to create so many story aspects because the Enclave winning in Fallout 2 would normally be pretty simple. There's no way I could add to this.
I don't know this video doesn't really need a part 2 all it needs is just an explain of what happened to The Institute and the Commonwealth and then it's done there's nothing really to do and that could just be speculation
@@TheOmegaInitiative I think that's the point, people love your created story aspects. Your deep knowledge of the lore fits well with what we understand of the Canon, and most people myself included would simply love to see either a slightly prolonged conclusion or a continuation in general. Not entirely necessary, and yes likely way more speculative, but your speculation seems to be what has your audience enthralled. Just something to consider for any future video.
@@TheOmegaInitiative Also be enclave is just incredibly popular, and content like this is so few and far between, anything you do of this nature is likely to be popular and highly requested.
I have never rooted for the Enclave before. This is the first time.
Another epic episode.
I think you overstate Frank's combat abilities. Even without the chip the securitrons with prepared defenses and power armor soldiers could hold
Well tbh Frank is basically a behemoth with advanced power armor, heavy weapons, high regeneration, incredible strength, and his determination with all the other forces at the same time I think it makes sense
I think you severely underestimate Franks combat abilities
He one hit a 10 foot tall mutated lizard
@@melonboi927I mean he listed everything but his kills. Also without his armor he is dead because he is a cyborg so it’s a part of him and is his lifeline
Underestimating the LAD Frank Horrigan?
The enclave in fallout 3 was a good inclusion despite what anyone says and I want to see them return
Wether Eden or Autumn, the Enclave we're the good guys :)
I'm kinda disappointed that the "West Virigia" part of the enclave isn't actually the Secret Service.
Well the secret service wouldn't be an organization capable of warfare, they would have likely merged with the Enclave when they returned to West Virginia though.
@@TheOmegaInitiative Oh. That's a good point! Though, you could've mentioned that because of the Secret Service, gold became a, let's say, "currency".
By the way, this video's great. You're incredinly creative, mate!
I quite enjoy seeing so many enclave Profile Pictures, I'm very proud of you all.
Alright, I'm calling it out right now... I want to see this evolve into a mod series, because I would download this in a heartbeat
This story is canon to me and nobody can change my mind, I honestly was choked up with joy in the ending, it was perfect and fitted the image of how I pictured an in game ending to go through, with the Enclave reforming into the American government
God bless the Enclave... God bless America 🇺🇲
One of the greatest lore videos I’ve ever seen. May you have a wonderful life my friend.
This was incredibly well done. Also, I never thought I'd be cheering for Colonel Autumn but here we are
Always nice to see a story putting the Enclave in a good light, very good work. God bless the Enclave from your Canada division, and God bless america.
Damn, even as a brotherhood fan, this was beautiful.
same here brother
Wait isn’t the Institute still alive?
Edit: Along with all pure strain synths?
yea but I dont think they would fight large scale anyway
Yeah I really don’t know where I’d put the institute. I don’t think they would have revealed themselves until after the war, if at all. I’m assuming that synths would be put to work as the slave labor to begin the full rebuild process should the institute allow itself to fall into enclave hands.
@@andyn46 I guess Enclave would realize the use they can provide as slave labor and the masses will divide once more on if the synths are sentient or not. There isn’t a railroad considering their ancestors got gassed. The synths would in fact carry on as the institute did get a non genetically altered child. I assume the only ones to die would be any institute personnel who have gone to field tasks and this would be the new punishment other than banishment. My new question comes now in that wouldn’t Shawn and the sole survivor immediately die upon release from the pods?
@@eustacebagge5873 I think anyone underneath the ruins would have been safe from a gas attack. Shawn doesn’t step out into the wasteland for the first time until the end of Fallout 4 so he should be good. As far as the Sole Survivor goes, there’s a lot of possibilities I can think of. Shawn could have retrieved him once the Enclave presence in the area was known, and potentially used by the institute as a negotiator due to him being a soldier before the Great War if they wanted to create a truce. Having a member of the old world speaking to them would be a wet dream for Enclave higher ups
Or Liberty Prime.
All i want to say is thank you. i use to watch this video because i loved the fallout sires and so did my dad before he died you been one of my fav youtubers since like 3 years now i want to thank you for the fine time i had watching this channel
That was SO GOOD! Even better than the " if the master won " video. That was super great! Congrats on that vid!
This was so good! I’d love to see a mod to make this story in the old isometric style
Your Portland part was awesome. I was not expected that.
This almost made me tear up at the end, mate...
Good work.
If this was ever to be developed as a game or book in an alternative timeline, it would be awesome and I’d be buying immediately!
Love that part in Oregon😂
Plus, the part where he mentioned that some of those on that patrol team blew their own brains out just to not live with those horrors…
@@LakeofCrystalclan and I honestly do not blame them😂
@@ImperialHell172 Me neither. I can only imagine just how severe the PTSD from those abominations would have been for those poor, poor lads…