C-5 Galaxy - A vs B vs M
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- The USAF C-5 Galaxy in all 3 guises departing Prestwick Airport, Scotland. This is one of the world's largest aircraft and is used by the United States Air Force (USAF) for Strategic Airlift.
The C-5A was first made in 1969, the C-5B in 1986 and modifications of existing planes to C-5M in 1998.
As they get newer, the engines get quieter, so in reverse order of loudness we have:
1. C-5M Super Galaxy - Prestwick Airport - 20th October 2015
2. C-5A Galaxy - Prestwick Airport - 28th November 2011
3. C-5B Galaxy - Prestwick Airport - 12th February 2016
![[4K] USAF Heavy Operations at Prestwick Airport May 2019 | 3 KC10As 2 C17s & 2 C5Ms](http://i.ytimg.com/vi/8lDEiSdm4uY/mqdefault.jpg)
Got to love the sound of the original engines, not talking performance or economy, just sound.
Totally agree, awesome and unique sound
No sound like it anywhere
I grew up less than a mile from the runway at Norfolk operations base I believe it's called Chambers field. And where I lived the landing gear would come down and so you would hear that mechanical Hydraulics opening the door and then dropping the landing gear Mains and it was was so intense you thought something broke. And as a little boy the original c-5a engines would give you plenty of warning that the plane was coming so you could run outside and look at it. Nowadays the C5 can fly over and I hardly ever notice them anymore they're so quiet.
@@JimRamsayJWR Even I agree. They MUST preserve some of the tf39's
Agreed, i loved hearing them, always reminds me of home, i lived right down the road from Lackland AFB
The A and B models have a special place in my heart as they were equipped with the screaming TF39s which to this day are one of my top favorite jet engines ever made!
Love the metallic/meat grinder sound of the old TF39s. I could always tell when one was flying over without leaving the house.
The original sound brings back so many memories. It's comforting to me, all I hear when ever I see a C5 take off, and that original C5 sound, is AMERICA.
Those original screamers were perfect for the C-5. I was a little kid when we first saw it at its introduction, it sounded as awesome as it looked. No one had seen or heard anything like that giant plane with the giant roar.
Love the A's and B's, that sound makes me cry because I remember going to Saudi sitting up top of a C5-A going to War. The M models, bleck sound like any everyday jet, bleck!
I was standing on the flight line once with my dad at TAFB in the mid 1980’s about where that SUV was parked @2:55 in relation and watching a C5 take off, that is one moment i will never forget until the day i die and i think about it every day, as a teenager it was scary as hell but also beautiful. The C5 was a B model i think with the camo paint
Just the sound of those TF-39s make the C5 A&B galaxy's sound menacing
FYI there is no difference between the A & B's engines; both use the exact same TF-39 engine. It's a distinct sound that is going to be missed.
I know :( Now it sounds like a generic airliner taking off
bmace72v1 they should've rebuild the TF-39 instead, and we currently have at least 6 of the TF-39 powered engines left.
Well technically there are differences. But they aren't much to speak on.
Yeah seeing that C5 M taking off. The sound was just all wrong for that plane. I just wish they would have kept one or two C5's with the TF39's for enthusiasts at air shows and super bowl fly overs. Everyone even civilains like myself knew that plane was near by just by the sound. I have great memories hearing that plane fly over.
C5B has 10% ATOT. A model engines at the time didn't, but do now, neither used it on these take offs....not even 1%.
Alas, I'm going to miss the C-5A/B models with one of the most distinctive sounding airplane engines in the world. When it flies over you, you first hear the distinct growl of the front fan blades and as it passed over you, the sound changes to that of the the high-pitched engine whine.
The C-5M--since it uses essentially the same engines found on the 747-400--sounds exactly like a 747-400, too.
I flew on her for 6 yrs God I miss her😢
Some of the best times of my life was on the Charlie 5:
Travis AFB 22AS 02-08 Load
Those original C5 engines are gangsta! Love that sound!
I like that you included the beginning of the takeoff runs. I love hearing the TF-39s transition from a shriek to the howl. Well done!
Boy, you can’t help but notice that original howl, those new CFMs are nice but I kind of miss that howl! Very nice video.
Live just outside of Fort Campbell 2021 C-5a still flying overhead. I hear those tf-39 at least once a week. Wow.
the goosebumps start at 1:11. best engine sound there ever was!
I Worked on Fred in the early aughts, and I do not miss that scream. It just permeated everything on base. It was unescapable. Cannot deny how iconic the sound is though.
That second take off reminds me of the sounds I heard while living near CAFB back in the seventies!
I remember as a child living in Germany 🇩🇪 my Omas place was right in line with Rammstein. I could here the C-5 coming long before it was over her place. Similar but not he same as an L1011 that deep growl you could hear it coming. I would run outside to see it. It and the B-52 were my faves while my Daddy was in the USAF.
There was just something so cool about the original sound of the C-5. I'm glad I got to experience it first hand.
My Grandparent's house in Bowers Beach, Delaware was directly under the flightpath of the C-5s orbiting and landing/taking off at Dover Air Force Base.
My earliest memories were those behemoths thundering overhead at all hours, with Granddad standing on the porch telling us that they were "One-thousand-fifty-two feet up" or some other arbitrary figure.
It never occurred to me until recently that my childhood was so unique in that very few others experienced the privilege of seeing these monstrous machines landing and taking off from one of the most active Air Force bases in the world...........
It makes the utterances from my Grandfather all the more poingnant, and his passing all the more painful.......
You gotta love the sound of those old General Electric TF39 High Bypass Turbofan Engines on the Lockheed C-5A and C-5B Galaxy when compared to the new GE F138s of the Lockheed Martin C-5M Super Galaxy
Wow that sound brings back memories of when dad would take me to the base for what ever and that sound was in the background with the C5 and 141's out of Norton AFB in Berdoo.
In the C-5A video, you can even hear the thrust reduction at such a distance... Unfortunately never got to hear those TF39s in real life :/
But I'm happy, it's well documented by great videos like this one :)
You just cannot beat the sound of the original engines....it's a shame to see/hear that go away
You will never hear it again!
C-5A that's a screamer love it
I remember going to the old James connelly Air base in Waco Texas in the 80's. Those C-5's would constantly come in there and practice touch and goes!! We would park right at the end of the runway!
The second C5 called an A model appears to actually be a B model. The Antenna on the nose is squared off where on the A it had a delta shape..Of course that could have changed. The real difference is not noticeable from the outside. The A had x-wind landing gear where the B did not. The A had Fire bottles in the cargo compartment, the B did not...and as stated previously, both A and B used the same engines. As far as I know, the C5 is the only plane to ever use the GETF-39 engines...an awesome sound that will be missed.
Correct, but the TF39 was just a designator, the core was used extensively in many applications not just in aviation but as the LM2500 as an industrial engine. They moved the "1/2"" core to the rear of the fan and it made it quieter and called it a LPC or a "Booster" .
When they revved the old engines up to full power, it sounded like a ghost. Beautiful sound.
Flew the A in 1982, back home from Incirlik AFB
My family was there in 79-80. We flew on those and the C-141s. You could hear the sound of the C-5 through the whole base.
The TF-39 has a half fan prior to the second stage of the N1. That is what makes the distinctive scream.
Both A/B we're awesome especially if you flown on one. Those TF39's would scream. 🇺🇸
I like they finally have better engine, but there was just something about the old engines that was just so cool. We'd hear them often flying overhead in San Antonio as they headed in and out of Kelly and Lackland AFBs. I always thought they looked like they were just hanging in midair.
still the old engines have strong sound . I heard that first time in 96 at King Abdullaziz Basement in Dharan . I like that sound ...wow
I may only get to hear that scream in recordings now, but it's interesting how perfectly tuned to it my tinnitus is.
The new engines suck. It sounds like any airliner. The unique one-of-a-kind sound of the old engines is classic on the C-5. No other plane sounded like that. Too bad we will never hear those again.
You said it, bro!
The originals sounded like pure POWER that blended well with looks of the C-5, compared to wimpy sound now;
Just dosent seem right!
if you enemy can tell what plane is it that is a hell of problems to defend now.
Utter nonsense. You can't compare sounds going away from you vs coming towards you.
Joe Fernandez the new engines are quieter more fuel efficient and most importantly MORE powerful. Your argument on sound alone is dumb.
The first B747 with CF6-6 did sound very similar to the C5's TF39s. The CF6-6 was a modified TF39 for commercial use therefore the TF39 is the origin for the entire CF6 family. So even the modern M-version's CF6-80C's are relative to the original engines.
They should keep one screamer in the fleet for the ultimate show and tell experience.
Just like the Tomcat
Those TF-39s were like music... - 1:19
Monsters, fun to watch. 🎉
0:40 / 2:00 / 3:20 Take-oFF
*M* *A* *B*
Or 0:25 / 1:19 / 2:43 Throttle
The old C5A sound i remember, Pope AFB/BRAGG 74'-76'
Just love c5A Engines
1:14 wow they almost look the same next to each other!
2 big bois
It look like the M had a load as the other 2 were empty. normally the M can take off a lot sooner than the legacy ones due to the more powerful CF6-80
Eep! Love that tight widdle turning wadius and those widdle wings!!!! Yes, must have engines that ring!!!!!!!
Pretty good whatever the engines!
Great video Jim!! Thanks for making it!
My dad saw a lot of the old C-5A/B in Germany but i never saw it live :/ The old TF39 are iconic with its characteristic sounds. But the GE CF6-80 are true monsters with 22% more thrust. They made a huge difference in performance. Its like compare modern F1 v6 engines with F1 2000 v10 engines. Cause F1 is entertainment its clear the old v10 engines. But in military only power is important not sound.
LOCKHEED built a awesome giant that works and is a great plane too.
The Mega-Transport that Taxis into the Air.
I'm in love with the C5M cuz it's not that loud than the C5A and C5B
So YOUR The reason why we can’t have Awesome Things !
Awesome..also there is a Russian AN124 in the vid.. equivalent 👍
The C-5M's didn't come till way after '98. The first demo of an M variant was in Dover in 2009.
And the C-5 A and B utilized TF-39's.
C-5 AMP and C-5M Super Galaxy[edit]
New C-5 cockpit avionics, installed under the Avionics Modernization Program
Following a study showing 80% of the C-5 airframe service life remaining,[93] AMC began an aggressive program to modernize all remaining C-5Bs and C-5Cs and many of the C-5As. The C-5 Avionics Modernization Program (AMP) began in 1998 and includes upgrading avionics to Global Air Traffic Management compliance, improving communications, new flat panel displays, improving navigation and safety equipment, and installing a new autopilot system. The first flight of a C-5 with AMP (85-0004) occurred on 21 December 2002.[94]
The Reliability Enhancement and Re-engining Program (RERP) began in 2006. It includes new General Electric F138-GE-100 (CF6-80C2) engines, pylons and auxiliary power units, upgrades to aircraft skin and frame, landing gear, cockpit and pressurization systems.[42][95] Each CF6 engine produces 22% more thrust (50,000 lbf or 220 kN),[96] providing a 30% shorter takeoff, a 38% higher climb rate to initial altitude, an increased cargo load and a longer range.[specify][42][97] Upgraded C-5s are designated C-5M Super Galaxy.[98]
Yes the idea was proposed in '98, but the C-5M didn't fly until 2006 I believe. The C-5B's did get upgraded first with the AMP program.... I already knew that. The plan for these upgrades came way earlier before it was actually put in place. The C-5M's are actually B models, just on steroids with the new engines.
The new engines take away from teh "experience" for the spotters.
+Jim Ramsay Indeed sir. I'm going to miss the sound of the TF-39
1:20 now THAT'S what Linda's voice REALLY sounds like! If you know, you know....
That one of best cargo plane in the world
Nothing sounds as good as the old A /B model.
Yeah ... so glad to have caught them as they are all scrapped or converted to "Supergalaxy" models
I get the need to upgrade engines.....but the least they could have done was make the new CF6's sound like the originals. I miss that scream!
The Wright Bros. entire flight could happen inside a C5 cargo compartment !
The B model in this video is from Westover Air Reserve Base (or at least it was) and I live not even a quarter mile from the base.
Yeah, I require that ringing-screaming sound! ❤ I love my Galaxy ❤ The M series ain't ringin'....😞. And yes, I am a female who loves military aircraft!!!!
Yeah, sadly only M left now. game over :-(
@@JimRamsayJWR Noooooooooooooo!!!!! 😱
The king c5m
A series rocks!!!!!
Hmmmm....where's my ring?! Oh, it's almost there!
Miss the low menacing growl of the original engines. It's as if each engine had two banshees living inside it. One with a very low voice and one with a very high voice, both screaming at the same time.
C5A & B are the same TF39, what makes them different is the chaff flare system
Both have flare systems! No C-5 has Chaff.......
2 and 3 were both B models. You can tell by the serial on the 3rd one and the chin antenna and what looks like a B model serial as well on the 2nd one. Engines were the exact same ones As and Bs. They went to rebuild after X many hours. They sucked. They sounded great but dumpster fires as far as everything else. I worked on these at Dover in the early 2000s. They needed the AMP and M upgrade badly... A and B models used basically what amounted to 8 track tapes for fault recording and to calibrate one of these TF39 engines you had to do it manually via what looked like a Vietnam era analog "computer" that was literally hooked to a running engine with a really long extension cord. Lets not get started on the instruments before the AMP mod lol.
I love that screaming
Nothing says get the hell out of the way like the original engines.
that sounds rules
Give me an A. Model anytime
I challenge the aviation community to prove me wrong, but I believe this video will not be out-classed in terms of C-5 pass by and model comparison (quality) for 15+ years.
Why 15 years? I have more C-5 footage that I got from RAF Mildenhall that I#d like to add, its only a Super Galaxy mind as thats all that is left flying, but I have the rear wheels up close whilst it is turning after backtracking the runway!
At 2:00 of the video. Its awesome seeing the C5 Galaxy and the Antonov AN124
A models were first built in 1966
Belissimo avião.
The B is like the A Except a little less loud
That monster's engines produce about 70,000 kg of thrust
This hurts
If there is a difference then it is too subtle for me to figure out. Worked around on TF39 engines for many years and still can't distinguish between the two. The "M" version did sound a mite quieter.
don't judge me but i love both sounds. CF6 or TF39. i select both of 'em
C-5M engine is the same engine as the 747-400 yes?
what happened to the c5m? is it a quieter tf39? or a different engine? what model is it?
its CF6-80C2, same engine type on the 767, but a different version of it
Swiss001 is right, It's like comparing Tesla Model x and the Lexus LFA
Está claro si usamos la comparación futbolistica el C5 Galaxy gana a su hermano gemelo Súper Galaxy por goleada .Siempre será el n°1 de los aviones de carga desde la destrucción del gigantesco Antonov an 225 Mriya. Un saludo desde Sevilla, España 👋
on the last c5-galaxy. the ongines sound exactly the same but quieter
engines
C-5B galaxy and an-124 Russian
C-5a galaxy and c-5m super galaxy
Almost original engines? What's the difference between the original and almost original ones?
The colour of the paint
C-5a galaxy and c-5m super galaxy c-5b galaxy
The GE TF 39s...........
C-5M could have sounded better if this was shown from a different video
I get some people prefer the newer engines but for me the C5M's are totally ruined with those CFM6-80, nothing will be ever the same
I feel like the C-5B has a quieter version of the C-5A's engine
Not at all
M every day of the week and twice on Sundays. If the A and B were adequate the M wouldn't exist. Looks like we'll just have to be happy with the IL-76 for screaming engines. If the C-5M update didn't exist the USAF would probably just end up withdrawing the C-5 altogether and bringing more C-17s out of the backup fleet
Of course thats the logical answer. The heart says A/B!
Me gusta más el ruido que hacen los motores del c5 Galaxy, suena más poderoso, que el Súper Galaxy que parece menos potente
y ruidoso aunque los 2 "hermanitos gemelos" tienen la misma potencia.
This engine - that engine - makes no difference. It flies just the same.
You're right Mel. Don't know what the fuss is.
I agree with you both. The engine does not matter unless you're kinda dumb.
@@Melody615199999 Bruh
Are there any B models still in service or all M models now?
All M now
Isn't there a C5C galaxy
2 of them 213/216
C-5B galaxy
C-5B galaxy takeoff
The hell the “Almost Original Engines” mean ?
C 5 Galaxy Engine Comparison: General Electric GE 100, TF39