The Other Button Challenges
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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 19 ก.พ. 2017
- I go over the button challenges for the start, C, R, L, and D-pad buttons.
Total Start Press Counts:
Any%: 1
120 Star: 1
Total C Press Counts:
Any%: 0
120 Star: 1
Total R Press Counts:
Any%: 0
120 Star: 0
Total L Press Counts:
Any%: 0
120 Star: 0
Total D-pad Press Counts:
Any%: 0
120 Star: 0 - เกม
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"The L button has no use, and so is never required."
(footage of Mario doing nothing)
If it was Super Luigi 64, pressing the L button or D-pad would make you win the game, because they do absolutely nothing, and Luigi wins by doing absolutely nothing.
Bibasik7
old and underratted
MineDiego65756 yes
#relatable
@@dububro oh god, seeing a reply from my deleted account is depressing, anyway... what did I say then?
Everyone knows the L button unlocks Luigi.
L is real 2401
Pressing the L Button 2401 times unlocks Luigi :^)
Unlocking Luigi Crashes Paper Mario.
An l button is an l button you can't just say it unlocks luigi
XD What if the L button actually did unlock Luigi and we just didn't knew it before?
"The start buttons's primary use is to pause the game."
Whoa slow down, this is all too complicated for me.
next you'll tell me the pause button starts the game
Thiago Coelho No, because there's no pause button.
the start button does something
not everything, some enemies still blink
start button can pause buffer
Unfortunately, Mario wasn't kidding when he said "Press Start to play!".
Fortunately, in many other games, "Press START to play" was actually a joke since A works too in that game.
That doesn't get to count
@@derodainfamous Actually i think that the button challenges start when the game is loaded, so that also includes the start screen and save selection menus
Seems only the Start Button can truly defeat you, Pannen. How will you collect every star if you cannot start the game?
Joe Kewl
The world may never know.
he'll have to complete every start from within the demo cutscenes..
He can set memory values by manipulating Mario's face, like a TV antenna. Just the right combination of plucked mustache and twisted ears will execute the functions of the start button
Time starts when selecting a file
He can just do a 0 star run.
In Super Mario 65, the L button summons a scuttlebug jamboree.
Justin Nelson If only this function was available in the actual hack
If only SM65 existed...
Luca Mancini I know a romhack called Super Mario 65 which is made by a spanish guy called skelenio and 99% of it are free models made by random guys on the Internet, so it has weird level design (in my opinion though)
I thought it would make L real
Really? I thought it made the scuttlebugs walk into a wall and disappear.
I can do the L button and D pad challenge
Godlike
Niko Baby Even at the same time!!
Niko Baby Any% or 120 Star?
I think Any%, 120S would require some huge TAS skills
CC01 I can still do it, believe it or not. Aren't I amazing?
Back when if a game said "Press Start" you actually had to press start
Nowadays you can press any button.
Well, for example in TDU2 for Xbox 360, the A button works too.
*-Presses the power off button-*
"Any button" usually doesn't mean any button. Often the D-pad doesn't work, clicking the sticks sometimes doesn't work, etc. I always test to make sure what "any" button means
ikr, fucking modern casuals
Games used to be sort of tough back then, huh?
"The L button has no use, and so is never required."
just like me
Ame Hart Forever Alone
savage
Ame Hart are you talking about L as in "You took the L" or another thing?
L IS REAL 2401
:/
The only version of SM64 to give a function to the L button is the iQue version when you check your scores on the file selection screen. Due to the larger Chinese characters, there are now 2 pages of scores instead of one. R sends you to the next page while L sends you to the previous page.
cool
huh, interesting!
i'm so good at mario i can beat it without pressing the L button
Me too I use cheats for L
I'm even better, I can get through it without the d-pad!
Ya all bad. I can beat the game without using either of those!
I can beat SM64 without unlocking Luigi.
@@adynmichael wait. It's unlockable? I actually can beat the game without the L button, without the Dpad and without Luigi!
I appreciate the footage of Mario doing nothing to prove that, in fact, the L button does absolutely nothing. Wouldn't have believed you otherwise.
Next up: The all-button challenge
Finding the absolute minimum number of button presses required to beat the game.
Mettan Atem Check out the "No button challenge" on his main channel
I feel like the real "all-button challenge" would be to find a way to beat the game by constantly pressing a button in every frame of the game, and you cannot stop pressing buttons. If there's one frame you're not pressing a button, that's a frame counted against you. Goal is to get the least number of button-less frames.
You could just press L or the D pad every frame since they are useless.
im replying to a 3 year old comment
@@KevinIsNice6984 I'm replying to a 3 month old comment
But is it possible to beat the game without pressing the power button?
I mean, I guess it's more of a switch, but the point still stands
Rohan Bafna You better bet your bottom dollar they do.
Rohan Bafna you gotta turn _that_ console on somehow. ..
Of course not! How else would you be able to ragequit?
Short the power leads I guess
Well, I guess we need a run that features the fewest button presses flat-out.
Gally to be honest that probably wouldn't look too different from a normal run outside some rng manipulation.
See the No Buttons Allowed challenge and the ABZ challenge.
thank goodness sm64 uses a joystick, parallel universe movement for most of the stars it is
SM64 in 1 pause
2 Pause is a lot simpler for Mario 64
Kaztalek lmao
Oh boy, triple upload.
woah you watch pannen?
🅱 press
🅻 press
I think we can say that it only takes 0.49 START presses, because you could press START, play another file, game over, then select your START button challenge run, and do it in 0 start presses.
"Hey, a START press is a START press. You can't say it's only 0.49!"
Basically, when doing the run starting from file select, 0, but when starting from boot, 1. We would represent this situation with a 0.5, where it gets rounded down to 0 when playing from file select and 1 when starting from boot. But, 0.5 is already taken, so we use 0.49 instead.
The Start button's primary use is to pause the game.
**shows Mario manipulating spacetime in order to prevent a Goomba from hitting him**
L BUTTON CHALLENGE IS REAL, THAT'S WHAT THEY MEANT ALL ALONG
6 year ago and no replies? Let me fix that
The L button does nothing.
EXCEPT MOONJUMP BOI
Flame the Pyrohog that's the z button
On emulator
Blank The Hedgehog nope,that can be any key in a emulator
Some rom hacks use it for other things. Such as in Super Mario Odyssey 64, you throw Cappy with it.
@@blankthehedgehog6279 it's default to L
On most cheat codes it is L tho
I await the "No Game Challenge"
You still have to beat it, but you can't play it.
you have to stand there eating bananas and waiting for a potassium 40 atom to decay, releasing radiation to flip individual bits in the ram of the console
TruelyJohn64 No Cartridge Challenge. You'll need a 64DD...
famitory
If there are comment awards you deserve one.
Just backseat driver someone else while they play.
"hey guys; i'm going to be doing the world's slowest sm64 run today. my first trick is that i start the game... and then i get up, and go get a burger."
i guess i could attempt a L button challenge run...
I want to see a modded controller that replaces the joystick with tilting the controller..
That would be terrifying to beat super Mario 64 with
Ninjjadude Jj Challenge accepted. I will make that controller, do a run, and I will send it to you.
I'm sure you could link a Wii-mote to your computer via bluetooth, and have tilts read as joystick inputs.
Leapordgaming I really wish it was that easy, but at least for me, Wiimotes always fight back and are basically impossible to connect without like $1000 Bluetooth software. Xbox 360 with an Android strapped to it ends up being far simpler.
Rubixninja314 You could always pirate that software.
You can do exactly this on the emulator on Wii
In the case of the no C Buttons challenge, it'd be interesting to see what stars can be done without the wing cap, since TotWC is off-limits. But at that point it's kinda redundant with the Capless challenge, but just the wing cap.
Someday we need to do the ultimate, the "Minimum Input Run" - count all button presses and alterations to the analog stick as a single input, and crack the minimal route. It can be done.
"The L button has no use, and so is never required" iconic
1:42 The best part in this video
*starts up game*
PRESS START
We already failed.
When's the no controller challenge? ;)
There’s a keyboard for that :P
Mushie64 and for the no keyboard challenge there’s a mouse for that
"The L button has no use, and so is never required"
Same
I've seen recent discoveries of a beta version of a 64 disk drive version of SM64. One of the features not included is the interactive mario at the start. I wonder if you can start the game without start on that.
No, I would think that it would still require the start button, since it's really just a port to disk.
You are required to press start to start the game
Interesting selection of items for that first debug feature. I'd expect them to vary by map.
that would be too much work for a debug feature. possibly easier just to change the code to what you need it to do at the time.
This ain't sonic's debug mode
"The L button has no use, and so is never required"
Slow down man, give me time to process it!
Next I'll learn that there is a "minimum input" category... xD
You could probably combine the B button and Z button challenges without much difficulty
but that might require a lot of A presses.
I want to see what the minimum inputs are of a, b, z combined
There's a no buttons and no joystick category. Pannen actually made some videos about it.
Would such a category count the analog stick? After all, there are already "analog stick only" challenges and there are "no analog stick allowed" challenges. If the analog stick counts in a fewest inputs challenge, then how do you quantify its usage?
The number of frames where the stick isn’t at its default position?
I just opened youtube and I see 3 new videos from you.
This is a good day.
Tomoko Kuroki You had to open TH-cam?
click that notification bell 🅱️
OOH BABY A TRIPLE.
JUMP TO INITIATE HYPER SPEED FLYING!
@Sans no u
The functions of the L-Button overwhelmed me.
I was about to ask about B and Z and then I saw suggested. Glad to see three new vids!
I've been waiting so dam long for a new video, and we get 3?? You're awesome
In any% you need to press two times the button start because you need to exit on the second fight of bowser
Or get 30 stars to open the door and exit the intended way.
You never have to press Start if you collect every star in the game through the demo ;^)
You need to defeat Bowser though!
A faster time would require another START press, because otherwise, you'd stay trapped inside the Dire, Dire Docks room
The L-button and D-pad should be ashamed for providing no challenge to you.
He should start a TAS run of doing each of these challenges.
I didn't know you could use N64 Controller buttons in an almost Sarcastic, yet informative, manner
Verlisify wha? Also hi popular person
Mario : press start to play
3d all stars : *not anymore*
Pannen starting 19 roms of the game simultaneously and passing time for 87,000 days so he can save a start button press
2:00 I'm guessing it's those specific items because they were the last ones programmed into the game, similar to that one unused level in Crash Bandicoot that served as a testing ground for the latest enemy and object created and has the last two enemies made.
This theory would explain those three items overall superfluous nature in the game at present.
Maybe they changed the debug spawn as they developed the items
When you read pause buffering and you know what's coming next D:
these videos have made me realize how much of a perfect storm the A button challenge is.
Haha, all you scrubs haven't realized that I have already done the L Button challenge many times!
"The L button has no use, and so is never required."
L IS REAL
2041
Awesome videos today! I was wondering why you've been missing for a while, and now I see. Super informative and entertaining as always!! It was well worth the wait.
SM64: no power cable challenge
laptop emulator
with power bank
*rips car battery out of car*
Ready!
I would apreciate a summary like this for the no joystick challenge because frankly it's the most mindblowing one out of all these. Not an exhaustive video detailing all the ones where it's needed because obviously that's the vast majority but just going over which stars are possible and maybe shed some light on some of the techniques used.
1:46 so the L button took an L
I feel like this was pointless, but your foresight that someone would ask for it anyway is remarkable.
These videos are so cool!!! Keep up the good work, dude!! :0
one of the only pannenkoek videos i fully understand
How about a no controller challenge?
Grush challenge.
German Shepherd DDR mat
It's called using a keyboard
Just will the game to completion
wait for cosmic rays to flip the bits for every star
Super Mario 64 with 0,5 Start presses.
Man, if we could access these Debug-Features somehow, that would be insane!
We could use the Crazy-Box for heights, the Shell for building up speed and the Underwater-Shell maybe for cloning. I mean, I'm pretty sure we can't access them anyway, but it's fun to imagine^^
Normally a cheat is required to access them. Otherwise there doesn't seem to be a way to do this right now.
"The L button has no use, and so is never required." Poor L button :'(
Honestly, i'm Suprised that the D-pad can be useless.
Kimi 1522 well on the N64 controller you would have to move your entire hand to push the D-pad. So it would make sense that the D-pad was one of the few buttons they didn't use in Mario 64
@@ClawedAsh also,moving in a 3D world with D-Pad could suck.
I can do the Reset Button challenge.
that's nothing I can do the L button challenge
Adorable pfp
I think the video should've mentioned that if you wanted to do a run without the C buttons, you could get a maximum of 118 stars, since WMotR can't be completed without the wing cap, and the tower of the wing cap star can also not be completed for obvious reasons
absolute madman
Hey, you misspell start as star in the description. Love seeing new content from you! Looking forward to more
Wow. Just what I always wanted.
How about No Joystick?
This is an interesting category. He does have some no joystick allowed videos on his main channel (you can find them all in a playlist) so there is something to be done what this.
Joel Graber I've seen them, but I would like to see a video like this on the subject.
raydarable same.
I recall Pannenkoek mentioning that routing a no joystick run is extremely time consuming and tedious, which is saying something on a channel dedicated to a challenge that is already time consuming and tedious. There might be more individual star videos for no joystick, but I can't imagine him putting that together into one video.
wonder how many presses would be required, assuming that a press means a change in analog stick position (except for releasing it)
it is required to open doors
You are an amazing person, you know that? These other challenge videos were VERY entertaining.
Can't wait for the buttonless run.
Would you do a "Least Inputs Possible" run example?
I think it's self-explanatory, but just so we are in the same page: the smallest amount of inputs (including analog stick alterations) it takes to beat the game, all buttons allowed.
most informative video on this channel imo
I absolutely love your videos; will you do commentated videos again?
I don't know how useful this is, if at all, but the gravity floors in the last bowser stage have an interesting thing where if you slidekick into the wall portion of it, you end up inside of the wall and cant move until it pushes you all the way down
When you showed that you had to look up to go to the flying levels (Idk what they're called), my earbuds glitched and made my music player start playing and a FNaF fansong was on, when you looked up, the line "you don't have a choice played".
"The L Button has no use" what a roast
I love how in the video Pannen just does "Eh, L button is overrated and is obsolete, so it never gets used". Not even 5 seconds of screen time and it's onto the next challenge.
Could have been a dream. But I could've sworn there was a video I saw stating player 2, 3, or 4 could control the platform with the arrows on it, (which was in hazy maze cave) with the controller's d-pad
Hey Pannen when are you gonna post a video of a full run with minimal A-presses? Looking forward to it :-)
Can cartridge tilting save any jumps or a presses?
You spoil me Pannenkoek.
"The L Button has no use, and so is never required."
scontulous IT'S NO USE
Here's a suggestion, in a similar vein: how would things change if you wanted to do something like the "A-hold challenge," in which the goal is to have the A button held for as few frames as possible? Obviously, 0-A-press stars would remain the same, but how would the various half-A-press stars (etc.) change? How many frames can you cut it down to?
Hey pannen, I talked to kaze, the creator of last impact, about finiqhing the game with 0 A presses as a joke. But then he answered me :"Someone should try, there might be something. And since I'm just terrible at TAS and stuff like that, I don't think I can do it myself, but the question is, can you do it?
Samper Delarzal I have already began doing it. So far it's looking good, but no one can do it better than the pancakes himself.
Oh, baby, a triple!
Most speedruns begin measurement from the moment the save file is first accessed, which occurs after the necessary Start button press. From a running perspective it's fine.
The start button is required once.
At the start of the game.
Where it starts the game.
fitting
I cant wait for a no-L button Speedrun of SM64, that would be awesome
Imagine if the L button challenge was impossible.
The start button may pause the game, but it doesn't pause the _Penguins._
They blink into your soul.
On a video titled Cartridge tilting: super Mario 64 (N64) at around the 6:33 they take a warp in bomb-mob battlefield and it teleports them into the cabin in cool cool mountain, could this possibly be used to enter areas like the aquarium and wing Mario over the rainbow using this trick and getting lucky and to save an a press?
i missed ya, pannen
Do a directional inputs challenge. I wanna see how often you have to use left, right, up, down and everything inbetween to beat the game.
Okay, so that's out of the way. Actually, I didn't know about the debug object spawn via D-pad.
Will you also make videos about the no buttons and no joystick challenges? I think they are the most interesting ones after the A challenge. Well, and no coins, but I think that's also pretty optimized.
Could you possibly use mario's face distortion values in the menu as an entry point for some kind of ACE?
I think it would be interesting to do an A button challenge but with a twist--see how few frames of pressing (and holding) the A button it takes to beat the game. I think there will be lots of innovations with this new challenge. Thumbs up so Pannenkoek sees it!
So basically just ABC but without the 0.5x presses. Ok.
Is there a Least Buttons Challenge? That would include all buttons like A, B, Start, Z, C, etc
I laughed out loud at the L button challenge