I am a professional color grader. I was really trying to give whomever colored Ep3 the benefit of the doubt that he or she was only following the orders of the cinematographer or director. That is until I saw Ep4. Though considerably brighter, it was terribly uneven. Shots within scenes shift from bluish to greenish and then back to orange when they go in for a closeup. The black level goes from hazy to contrasty within the same conversation in a dark room. The green screen work during the last sequence was needlessly oversaturated and didn’t blend well with the non-green screened wide shots from cut to cut. Matching shots, regardless of changes in lighting over the course a shoot, is rule number #1 for a colorist. Between all that and the Starbucks cup, it shows they really don’t care anymore.
Yeah, I'm not an expert but I've noticed a lot of errors this season and in season 7. It really feels like they're phoning it in and trying to spend half their budget and keep the rest for themselves. It's not just the lazy, uninspired writing, the plot holes, the character assassination, and the Hollywood one-liner/deus ex machina tropes. The quality of the whole show is less than what it was when it had half the budget starting out. It's like they really don't care about letting everyone know that they don't give a shit.
I'm surprised he didn't mention the coffee cup. That's worse that the crew member wearing a cowboy hat in frame in one the pirates movies Mel Brooks has a strict "no paper cups" policy on his sets. You want coffee? Bring a dark color mug
Via HBO Nordic on my old ass Sony TV the episode looked beautiful. With tons of little shit moving on the screen the streaming just couldn’t stay on top of it all the time.
It feels horrible. In my case, I feel it was a waste of time and emotions. I will pretend the last 2 seasons didn't ecxisted and keep in my memory the other 6.
I don't watch Game of Thrones but I've heard a lot about it. One thing people always noted was how well written it was. They don't say that anymore. I suppose it does highlight GRRMs' abilities as a storyteller.
What's wrong with throwing a big part of your army into total darkness towards a much bigger enemy force that is basically unstoppable and that only has your total destruction as their single goal? Or placing your trebucets vulnerable in front of everybody? Having a perfectly fine defendable castle with strong walls that you ignore until you seriously need a place to retreat to? Not having rocks or combustable fluids ready on top of the walls for an enemy that can be defeated by fire? Really sounds like the very experienced masterminds that came up with this plan thought this all though a lot! Deep respect for Tyrion, Varys, Jon and all the others for this genius strategy!
"Subverting Your Expectations" is the new "M. Night Shyamalan Twist" for Talentless Hollywood Hack Writers! The success of GoT has literally nothing to do with Benioff and Weiss! It's all because of the amazing work of GRRM that they were adapting! If I traced over a Leonardo Da Vinci sketch that doesn't make me Talented Artist!
SpeedBoost I wouldnt write them off too much, they did a fair job adapting the material they had which is harder than it sounds since they're two completely different mediums. It's their creative writing that's the problem.
+@@MsDragonbal776 Their joint crowning achievement prior to hoodwinking GRRM was writing the worst X-Men film of all time X-Men Origins Wolverine! They are "Masters of Schlock" and nothing else. If they were "Masters" then the quality dip wouldn't be so noticeable once they didn't have GRRM's books to leech off of.
@@SpeedBoost In Beniof's defence Origins did have a solid infrastructure, it was Rothman who barged in, made it a safe and generic action film and ruined Deadpool.
I do hope the next Star Wars main trilogy will be the story of Revan from Knights of the Old Republic. And there would of course be lots of existing writing for D&D to use, like they did manage to do in the earlier seasons of GoT. But well. Perhaps it's safest to can these guys. Hire someone who at least hasn't monumentally ruined a legendary franchise yet.
Were these guys actually involved for the last Jedi disaster? It would make sense that they did it again. I thought it was Rian Johnson. If these guys are involved in future Star Wars forget it.
The point of a subversion is to give something the audience didn't expect, BUT ALSO works just as well if not BETTER. When a character is Snoked, the audience didn't expect it because it leads nowhere. Getting chocolate when you expected vanilla is fun, getting an empty wrapper is frustrating.
@@freddiesimmons1394 it has more with buildup. He was being set up as the strongest dark side user of all, he used the force though a hologram in another ship He beat Rey, the Mary Sue, and genuinely caused fear on her, he had potential to be a memorable villain. But then he dies and now the villain is Kylo, who already got his ass beaten twice, js not intimidating and not memorable.
@@freddiesimmons1394 Not really. A herd of people don't all speculate in a certain direction unless you point them there over multiple seasons. Snoke was just a waste character. NK should have required a group effort. 2/3 of the main characters have Valyrian Steel weapons. It should have been a gauntlet as they all fought him, and any one of them could have gotten the killing blow.
@@luizfelipevbf5567 how could he have been the strongest if he got owned my a mere apprentice? It was obvious he wasn't ever supposed to be the main bad guy. If anything, he's a direct ripoff of Palpatine and would have been a terrible main villain.
Why do they need to 'subvert expectations' anyway? We just wanted a straight up continuation of almost 10 years of leadup. Nobody wanted 'subversion' for subversion's sake.
Nobody is not quite accurate. The showrunners certainly did want it. "Screw the audience - we do what we want. Common sense and military strategy be damned!" But I agree that most of the audience probably didn't want this. I personally am very glad that I just read the books and did not waste time nor money on seeing the show.
@@ranekeisenkralle8265 I read the books, and when the series started I was really not bothered to watch it... but I did and I loved it. However this rushed and illogical conclusion is just such an inexcusably sloppy ending to whats been a momentous TV show (at least at the beginning it was momentous). I'm just gobsmacked that HBO have thrown it under the bus like this. Talk about killing the golden goose. I watched all of Dexter, and loved it all up to the final episode and when Deb falls in love with him (so cringe).
You just showed that you are even dumber than the rest of these idiots posting on Midnights Edge's videos (who is an even bigger idiot than his viewers btw). There have been *ZERO* "teleportations" as you refer to it. There has only been long spans of time between scenes, but apparently you lack the braincells to recognize such a thing as happening without big old letters on the screen saying "FIVE YEARS LATER" like they had to do for morons like your ilk when they made Avengers Endgame. Many televison and film properties over the years have done time jumps between scenes and most people, those who can actually think for themselves and not fall into the groupthink of moronic wannabe nerds at least, have had no problem recognizing that fact. And you also seem to not have noticed that these time jumps have been happening on Game of Thrones since the very first episode of the show, yet another clue to either you being a complete imbecile, or just someone falling in line and following the sheep who listen to all the naysayers online who only know how to bitch and complain about various franchises, all without realizing that the only reason channels like this one do so is to draw in your views (or in the case of websites, your clicks). And for the record, I didn't waste my time watching the video, I just came to peruse how stupid the comments were going to be, and laugh at them. But your comment's topic caught my attention, as it has been a minor pet peeve of mine lately.
@@TheGeekyHippie It's funny you call people sheep. Here you are in the comments of a video you (by self admission) didn't and won't watch. Your only purpose here is to start fights attacking people who dont like your garbage tier show. Plus, your speech is peppered with so many "I'm a big brain intellectual who is smarter than all you peons who hate GOT" comments, I'm amazed you aren't a copypasta from r/bigbrainincels. There are far more people still defending game of thrones claiming it's still the best show ever. Therefore, by default, you are part of the sheep masses and not thinking for yourself. If you did that, then you might realize outside of storytelling mistakes the episodes have legitimate huge technical issues that a big budget show shouldn't be suffering.
Glenn Myron Everyone knows that genius. Of course we assume some time happened. The fucking point the show previously made the effort to make it look like distances mattered. Now they just magically move all around the map. When Arya first traveled to Winterfell from Kings Landing took months if not years to complete the task.
I am a professional cinematographer, yes I blame D&D and Director because the blame stops with them for final cut and vision of the episode.(and lack of) The Cinematographer shot with ARRI Alexa cameras most probably in ARRIRAW, which can RECOVER shadow and highlight information, if shot underexposed in the colour grading process with Davinci resolve software no problem. The editor and colourist could have made it brighter but I guess the brief was to “be as shit as possible please.” Just like the strategy for the living to fight the dead
I'm an editor... don't blame the editor lol. They're all ACE editors, they know the craft. This was all on color and the producers for signing off on it all and most definitely the compression. I have 110mb down/ 10mb up, 4k HDR TV, watched it in pitch black and it was still awful. I saw tons of artifacts, the blacks and greys were atrocious. Also, how that passed QC i don't know.
Black Belt Media I am a professional editor too, I am not blaming the editor, they have to follow a brief, I am tempted to fix the episode with davinci Resolve and neat video plugin.
The combination of political propaganda and overly dark cinematography has turned me away from almost all current live-action television. My family mostly watches cartoons and anime these days.
Marc Shimpar Petty fanboy nonsense? Not really. The writing on GoT this season is like that of a kid in an 8th grade creative writing class. Last season was mediocre at best. What fiction has he ever written on his own that is particularly noteworthy?
Actually with the creative bankruptcy in the entertainment industry becoming more and more obvious we should get used to seeing crap like this more often. It is still going to get a lot worse before it hopefully gets better again.
@@ranekeisenkralle8265 At least we have Endgame, LOTR, Breaking Bad, and Harry Potter. Having a tough time coming up with very many other shows/continuing series that wrapped up successfully. Indiana Jones should have ended with him and his dad riding off into the sunset. The Dark Knight should have ended without the restaurant scene. Toy Story 4 - what are they thinking????
I for one am very glad that I sticked to just reading the books and not wasting time nor money on the show. For two main reasons. Firstly I prefer reading books over watching television. Secondly because I know from experience that with book adaptations there are always little bits and pieces getting lost or left out (sometimes even bigger chunks) which distort the overall story to some extent. Besides, I prefer to imagine stuff first-hand over just watching how someone else imagined the story and turned it into a show.
@@zenithquasar9623 its about the set up not the gender. Arya had her quest line already. tell me something,she just killed the most menacing creature on the 7 kingdoms are you interested on her killing a mere mortal Cersei now?
it jumped the shark when they didn't get author come in and give his insight, the guy didn't even see season 8, so fuck the show I'm going wait for the book, GOT became SJW trash
Yeah that's basically what all book readers say, and I think that the non-readers also noticed a big change since that moment. But for me, things went downhill after Tywin's death. There still was book material after that (with the sparrows) but I never really liked that part, even in the books. These new people were just introduced too suddenly as a new problem.
As someone who has been reading the books since 2001 (and read all of them 3 or 4 times, except Dance which I only read twice back in 2011) I am pretty darned happy with the series since we have gone "off book." And even the changes made before that have mostly been fine in my opinion (except the two scenes that were turned into rapey scenes on the show), as things that work in prose do not always work on screen. And then there was the fact that a number of characters had to be aged up (the Stark kids, Missendei for instance). These small changes led to other changes which led to others being needed which led to... well, you get the picture. The key points of how the series wraps up are going to end up being the same as the books. That's the *KEY* points, not all the points, or even the major points, but the biggest most important plot points. And I am fine with that. I don't actually *want* the show to end exactly the same as the books, and I never did. Did anyone here want Captain America Winter Soldier to be the same exact story as the comic run Winter Soldier? How about Civil War? Never saw anyone comlaining that those were "off-book."
@@21stcenturyhiphop I mean, sure we could look for real causes, but why would we do that when we have skin color to base our judgments off of? I mean, shucks, looking deeper might actually fix it, and nobody wants that.
('Taken from the LiveChat') *Eric Kelly* "Season 5 of Babylon 5 was done in a rush and it's leagues better than most stuff today" ^So agreed! Well stated.
It's secretly not meant to be. It's a cheap shortcut to profit and notoriety. They profit off of the drama created by subverting expectations instead of exceeding them. It's shameful.
"A faithful adaptation of", well, sadly that alone is a stretch for many movie/TV directors in modern times. Some due to the medium, the rest due to incompetence with what a good story is, lol.
Well a few problems there, the quality of the novels vary a lot, some are good, other are just awful.... and two, well everyone aged a lot, and some died, they would not match the age of the characters in the books would need recasting which will have their own issues
It's sad to see all this hard hard work in costuming, makeup, special effects for these shows only to have some serious failings elsewhere. I feel bad for the efficient staff who ARE focused on their jobs just to be smeared by amateurs slacking off.
As a comic book reader, I can say that I saw this a lot! It always happens when a narcissistic writer (who was once a fan) get the reins of a book ans its characters, is more interested in"leaving his mark" than serving an audience or creating a fulfilling story, they are obsessed in causing shock, surprise and " subverting the expectations. And mind you, they were fans one day, so they know the fandom, they know what they like and hate, how the fans react and expect from a particular story. They love to see how people react to what they do with beloved characters and the dismay and anger that they are able to evoke with their creative decisions. Creating expectation just to deliver an disappointing end is just another way to yank the chain on the fans. Worst: they do ego search and know the criticism they get ans sometimes write a story just to troll the fans that dislike their job. They are just like Ryan Johnson and the two hacks adapting Game of Thrones, egotistical hacks that are not interested in delivering a story, but in how people will react to it. At the end, you don´t have a comic book/move, but a very elaborated prank where the only thing that matters is to have fun at expense of everyone else.
Captain Howdy I’m sorry, but is he simply not writing it or has the trilogy actually been cancelled? Because him simply not writing it is not good enough. It needs to be cancelled.
Yeah...naww... I've been burned twice already by starting a book series before the author finished them only to have them die. Martin's a dead rich man walking and I wouldn't blame him at all if he spent his last couple years of life burried in hookers and blow.
yeah maybe. But if you do not know the books you still got a fairly great TV show with great dialog and an compelling storyline and deep characters with fascinating development. But now, after source material ended, even us wo do not know the books realize that more and more shit is thrown into our faces, selled to us as roses scent
I "heard" that the torrent versions were very high quality with very little, if any, artifacting at all making them better quality than the stream you have to pay for.
No. Disney is at fault 1000%. You don't start a trilogy without at least an idea of the story you want to tell. Star Wars is a failure because it is clear no one had an idea of where they wanted it to go. In fact, this is not Rian's fault, but it's obviously clear the fault of not wanting to tell a greater story. The frustrating aspect is just how easy of a story they fucked up.
There's nothing inherently wrong with the mystery boxes, but there has to be something in them. Unfortunately, Rian Johnson thinks an empty box is the coolest fucking thing ever.
@@TankHunter678 That's why handing the trilogy off to another director seemed like a good idea at the time. JJ does the setup, and now you have plenty of time to develop it and pay it off. If Kathleen Kennedy were a competent showrunner it could have worked.
Imagine at the conquering of westeros, the old targaryens conquered almost all of westeros with only three flying dragons, see the field of fire. The writing of D&D is contradictory to what has been established in-universe, even if you take into account that the dragons of dany are only half the size of the ones that Aegon The Conqueror and his crew had.
My friend finally convinced me to watch game of thrones. I binged the 7 seasons in about a month. It was crazy watching it slowly decline after season 4 then crash and burn season 7. Season 8 is just abysmal
Film makers don't understand "subverting expectations". They think that pulling a "haha gotcha" is what it's all about. Contrast this with George R.R. Martin's work: Ned's Stark execution came as a shock because readers let their HOPES guide their expectations. The author spent the entire book letting us know what kind of cruel spoiled kid Geoffrey was. What else should we have expected from him? And yet we let our empathy for Ned make us expect an unrealistic pardon. Expectations were subverted, but the characters and their society were NOT. Everyone behaved in a CONSISTENT way. The same is true of the red wedding. Since Rob's first arrival at the twins his mother had warned him about the prickliness of Walder Frey. And she was afraid of setting foot in his castle until he had broken bread with them. We SHOULD have expected the Red Wedding. We did not because we liked Rob, not because of inconsistent behavior.
A one film set up, regardless of how many Mystery Boxes were inserted, is not the equivalent of spending over 7 seasons and 8 years building up a threat that could lead to the potential extinction of humanity, only to pull the rug out in the 11th hour and say: "Surprise! The real threat to humanity was humanity all along!" It's fine; Final Season always runs the risk of being too predictable in the interest of tying up all loose ends to presumably give long time viewers a sense of satisfaction when the final credits roll, but that is a SEVEN YEAR red herring, whose only function was to reduce the vast resources of a superior military force that had been building for years worth of seasons to technically make the Final Battle a lower stakes, lower sized affair over the eponymous throne.
Agreed. Season eight literally makes NO sense. Killing off the nk after all that hype is the same as if Voldemort got done in before the battle of Hogwarts and Peter pettigrew turned out to the main villain smh. All that potential with the prophecies and the dragons and what not... Just GONE.
@@linegenrou agreed. With two episodes to go, it's obvious it's too late now. Tbh it was assured when this was announced as the last season with only six episodes when all the others had an average of ten. They could have kept on going to make it more realistic. This season will the remembered as the most disappointing for the book lovers. GOT should have ended at season six at best. This just messed it up.
The moment they ran out of Martin's material, the show went to the toilet. These people are creatively bankrupt, and can't be relied on to create a new story.
Aha! All these years I've been berated by Millennials for continuing to purchase blu-ray and UHD blu-ray and now the truth (as I've been stating for years) comes out. Streaming is POOR QUALITY! If you want real entertainment then buy the real thing!
I'm with you Lensman. I also will purchase THE HD- DVD as they are off the highest quality. I still remember watching downloads of Series 3 off USB sticks. I then borrowed Series 3 from my local library. It was the HD UV version. The quality was way better than the download3d episodes. Series 5 the Episode called Hardhome is proof of quality. Again the color off the downloads was not good. Again I watched Hardhome 9 months after its TV debut. I was blown away by the richness 0f the sea.
5/7 books completed is a common mistake. the series was originally planned as seven books, yes. but books 4&5 are two parts of one book. that book is also, not one of the seven original planned books, but instead is all or part of a replacement of an originally planned 5 year time skip between books 3 and 4. he is currently, probably, working on book 4 of 7.
D&D are good ONLY adapting. As writers? Oh, the Lord has mercy! I can't even describe how awful they are. They murdered GOT and I say murdered, because the show is already dead. The ending will suck for sure. These two should not be allow to "write" anything anymore! They had the best show in tv. It was almost impossible to ruin it and they did it! Star wars' fans do something to save your saga. You still are in time!
Who decided that “subverting” the audience expectations is a good thing? In no other context is subversion considered laudable; it implies not the creation of something new and worthy of admiration, but the corruption of one’s cherished hopes and dreams.
Correction: they didn't start to run out of source material in season five. They flat our ignored a whole book and started rushing toward ending the series. I can't fully blame them. I honestly don't think they'd thought about the story beyond the red wedding. I think they started to realize the monster they'd taken on and tried to cut corners but they did so in all the wrong places and completely fucked themselves over.
I just read those. If true, I can't see anybody being happy with the finale. I look forward to the react videos of people kicking their TVs and throwing bottles at it.
Haven read them but I heard, Danny dies, John kills himself and Tyrion and sansa end up ruleing. I think it was a fan theory but at this point who knows and who cares. This show is garbage now
@@IM-bq7ep Not quite, no. I'm not going to post the spoilers here, but that's wrong. At least in part. But if you're focusing on just who ends up where you're looking at the wrong thing. It's what the characters do to get there that's going to make a lot of people angry.
Game of thrones had George Martin’s books to base their episodes off of. But they still dishonored certain characters. So now they don’t know what to do and have too much freedom in what they can do.
Johnson doesn't even seem to be writing his trilogy. Knowing what I do of him, though, he'll probably do it on the fly making everything up as he goes along.
I doubt he's getting it anymore Kathleen was the only person who wanted him to and she's basically window dressing till episode 9 is out and they can replace her when people are actually willing to take her spot and Disney knows full well they'll make record loses if Rian gets his hands on Star Wars again
The only people excited for having D&D making a SW trilogy are those those people who watch the show drunk in a bar and scream every time something happens on the screen, like it's a football game or a carneval -.-
Andre is classy even when he RANTS! And lol at the faith you still have in Bob Iger,this catastrophic GOTs last season may maybe give a BUMP up on DxD stocks at Disney. All the men became stupid,incompetent or useless all the women cunning,powerfull or unbeatable.its exactly TLJs structural character base. nonetheless Great video chief!!!
There is a lot more to this situation than you guys know. You are normally very good at this tuff, but there are TH-camrs who have been out there for years who have pinpointed even more behind the scenes information about bad practices that dragged this show down. It wasn't just when D&D ran out of book material, they purposely changed aspects of the series for very fickle reasons, like showcasing an actor they were obsessed with, even though that actor's character had no relevance to the plot going forward. And they ignored entire plot lines from the source material. Seasons 5 and 6 both, maybe even some of 7 (if it were a full 10 episodes) could have been filled up with adapting the 4th and 5th books. Instead they tried to condense over 2000 pages of material into season 5 alone. There are a lot of aspects to why this show has failed.
Episode 1: filler Episode 2: filler Episode 3: something dark and really really dumb, with "Dany witnessing the end of the Dothraki" (D&D), and subverting expectations Episode 4: 70% filler, undercutting the "end of the dothraki" by still having 50% of the dothraki alive, no money for extras, and some hot garbage scene in front of kingslanding Predictions: Episode 5: more hot garbage filler, Dany burns kingslanding Episode 6: They kill dany, hot garbage fillers
ngc4514 Tbf no one knew what became of the Dothraki. Reasonable to suppose that not being suicidal they extinguished their flaming swords, rode round the Army of the Dead, and sat out the rest of the battle. Good for them if they did.
@@alanpennie8013 No sorry, cinematography communicates a lot. The message conveyed by the scene is clearly desperation and loss of life, only a handful ride back. And in the interview at the end they said as much.
@@alanpennie8013 Even if you ignore the interviews, the cinematography communicates something very different from what they say. Cinematography showed a handfull of living at the end of episode 3, not tens of thousands
@@namenloss730 Maybe the rest were carefully keeping out of sight for fear that the named characters would be upset that they weren't dead the way they were supposed to be.
True Blood never actually ran out of book material - Alan Ball just chose to throw out a lot of it, or had changed characters and things on the show so much that the book material couldn't be made to fit. If they had stuck closer to the books they would have had plenty of material for the show's run.
I think the best way to judge a show is how you end it. Dexter burned out and ended horribly. Compare that to "Breaking Bad" which was very well put together and ended perfectly. Of course, Breaking Bad didn't have books or any previous material like GOT or Dexter to rely on and then run out of. Dexter could have ended at season 5 and would have been perfect, but GOT has been something that has to end because audiences want to see who ends up on the Iron Throne finally. I have a feeling it's going to be a real disappointment considering that the last two episodes have been a little rushed. "We'll see..." said the Wise Man..
You have to ask yourself why so rushed. Why not 10 episodes this season? A little better dialog writing. I personally would not have had a problem with extending the Winterfell episode to two episodes with more expository writing.
I first met George R. R. Martin in 1978 at the World Science Fiction in Phoenix, Arizona. It was in the hallway of a "Party Wing" at one of the two main hotels. He was sitting on the floor in the hall outside a party with a notebook in one hand and a miniature chess set on his lap. Already an author of note (his novella "A Song For Lya" published in Analog in 1974 won the Hugo Award the following year, and his short story collection of the same name won the Locus Award in 1977), he could clearly multi-task but despite his acclaim he remained a solitary figure (in a highly social situation) sitting cross-legged on the floor of a crowded hotel hallway. He clearly is not a very social or political creature. Benioff and Weiss are both types of creatures. They will do well in Disney's culture. And there are no circumstances where they could hold either George's notebook, or his chess set. The difference between George and B & W is he is as unsentimental a writer as ever has been published in the co-joined genres of Science Fiction and Fantasy. B & W are highly sentimental. See the "Starbuck's Cup" scene in Season 8, episode 4. Case made. What you have to determine is: does their wide sentimental streak work for Star Wars? I think it does. Does their penchant for subversion work for Star Wars? I believe it does not. As a published author for over forty-five years I know this field. George Lucas understood the field. He knew what he liked: space opera serials. He took their action-adventure tropes and wedded them to Joseph Campbell's postwar musings on mythology and a romantic Christian view of human existence (if you're good enough, like Obi-Wan and Yoda, you can even come back from the dead; if you're Anakin you can be redeemed by your son, Luke). That formula hit with the public, because it reinforces deeply held western views, while adding a dash of eastern mysticism straight out of Kurosawa's films. There is no way that undereducated brats like Rian Johnson can understand the depth's of George Lucas' work. Ditto with B & W with George R. R. Martin's work. I might even call this mini-essay: A Tale of Two George's!
I have read the books and been an avid watcher of GoT since episode one. Everything bad about the show (Dorne, seasons six and seven's teleporting, etc.) was all off book. As for the darkness of episode 3, I have a big screen television and watched it in the dark and it was still very difficult to make out what was going on. Star Wars is doomed.
Here is the truth, whenever special effects are poorly rendered...the producers and FX teams darken up the shots in post. I didn't see the episode...but those that have...repeatedly said that the special effects were poorly rendered--thus it is clear that I am correct. The FX team most likely did their jobs...but the rendering was rushed by the studio...thus they wound up with incomplete and poorly rendered FX shots, hence the need for the dark shots. BTW, you can actually change the aperture of shots making them lighter or darker in post--so don't believe the excuses being made here. Trust me, the cinematographer had nothing to do with this. PS: The visual artifacts...are yet another sign of rushed effects, due to the studio (HBO) forcing the FX team and producers to air the show on time...instead of delaying the series a few months. Trust me, special effects teams and other quality control people, in terms of film mastering, are charged with the responsibility of cleaning up visual artifacts. I once saw a woman...use an electronic pen...and go frame-by-frame cleaning up visual artifacts for a TV commercial. Today, you can use denoising software, texture mapping and other tricks in order to do it more quickly--but you have to go from shot-to-shot...and scene-to-scene...and that takes time. That said, HBO didn't give them enough time. They chose the cinematographer to play the fall guy...instead of admitting what really happened.
Honestly we should have seen this coming, after all, David Benioff only major productions seem to be X-Men Origins: Wolverine and Troy. D.B pretty much just got Sunny in Philly under his belt.
I was waiting to binge watch all of GoT when it finally ended, so thanks for not featuring any spoilers. And thanks for the heads up on what to expect from it for the last seasons, so far. Erm...well...long live the original SW trilogy! lol. I'll happily rewatch those and enjoy them anytime. :) Thanks for vid!
@@Erlisch1337 Welpsies...cuz I'm subscribed to this channel and try to watch all their videos when possible. I often start the video (or look for the word spoiler in title) to see what they'll be covering. If I feel it'll go too far I'll save it for later. So, I haven't watched any of their most recent Endgame vids for that very reason. Have plans to see that in the next week, hopefully, and will watch their Endgame content afterward. Hope I made sense, just woke up. Laters dude.
I watched MauLer's vid on the Mildly Short Night before watching Overlord DVD's review. Probably the most venomous Unbridled Rage vid from him I've watched.
For everyone complaining about Arya and the “feminist agenda”.....you are missing the big picture. Arya isn’t the problem, it’s clear they just wanted to wrap things up quick and they didn’t want to/felt that they couldn’t wrap up all lore and the white walkers up. While there is the angle of “girl power” and doing something “unexpected”, I would argue this is the main reason why they picked Arya and cut the white walker stuff off quick with no addressing any of it. Notice how they didn’t call Arya Azor Ahai which you’d think they would at that point, but instead retroactively repurpose a prophecy (she’s had big blue eyed kills, they had to reword prophecy to emphasize blue eyes and even D&D admitted that they knew 3 years ago about Arya, which is after the eyes prophecy showed up). This shows that, other than being unexpected, it was an easy pick to not have to address all the azor ahai prophecy stuff. If it had been Jon, there’s no way they would’ve gotten away without addressing the prophecy and lore....hence they didn’t want it to be Jon.
"Let us just subvert your expectations in a way that also enables us to quickly end this franchise and run away to ruin another." ~ Benioff and Weiss, probably
the rot started WAY before the book material ran dry. Season 3's "chaos is a ladder" speech is what made me realize the show was fundamentally misunderstanding its characters. By the time Season 6 started I was laughing too hard at the show to continue
Yes Last one. I've already found "Plot Armour", "Ex deus Machina." and now Mary Sue. Only you don't actually know what a Mary Sue is. Another person who has heard it mentioned by TH-camrs and think its cool to bandy around. But they don't understand what a Mary Sue is either. Yet funny how no one even talked about it until one twitter post after TLJ.
Game of thrones has turned into hot garbage. Can't wait for the Internet reaction when Jon kills Dany, Bran becomes King of the 7 Kingdoms and Jon goes back to the Night's Watch!
Well this lines up with what I thought was going to go down with John and Dany. She is power hungry for some time. Didnt see who becomes king part though
I don't like how they forced Jamie and brianne into a sexual thing. It worked better as a platonic love/ respect they had for each other. Cersei, had she been written consistently, would have wiped out Danny and everyone at the gates with the archers. They really thought they could reason with cersei after she lied about helping them fight the night king and tried to have her brothers killed by braun? Give me a break. Logic and consistent writing has been replaced by...ooooops gotcha! "Look the dragon is dead now, you didn't expect such a lame death..we are geniuses!"
Agreed. I thought Cersei would go Red Wedding style & take them all out. If she learned so much from Tywin, why not end it right there with Scorpions ready on the walls & the Golden Company ready to go right behind the gate? Efficient.
I'm still in shock that Ryan Johnson got approved for a Trilogy. He was best known for looper at the time. Put yourself in Kathleen Kennedy shoes and tell me you couldn't hire someone better. Whatever happened to the guy that directed Logan?
When you make epic scenes and good story people will buy merchandise, blu Ray's I was planning to buy the whole series again in 4k video now I don't feel the urge anymore I feel like selling my game of thrones blu Ray's.
I am a professional color grader. I was really trying to give whomever colored Ep3 the benefit of the doubt that he or she was only following the orders of the cinematographer or director. That is until I saw Ep4. Though considerably brighter, it was terribly uneven. Shots within scenes shift from bluish to greenish and then back to orange when they go in for a closeup. The black level goes from hazy to contrasty within the same conversation in a dark room. The green screen work during the last sequence was needlessly oversaturated and didn’t blend well with the non-green screened wide shots from cut to cut. Matching shots, regardless of changes in lighting over the course a shoot, is rule number #1 for a colorist. Between all that and the Starbucks cup, it shows they really don’t care anymore.
great take, while I'm no pro, I too felt something off. Maybe D&D are already kneedeep in their pipedream of a star wars trilogy
Yeah, I'm not an expert but I've noticed a lot of errors this season and in season 7. It really feels like they're phoning it in and trying to spend half their budget and keep the rest for themselves. It's not just the lazy, uninspired writing, the plot holes, the character assassination, and the Hollywood one-liner/deus ex machina tropes. The quality of the whole show is less than what it was when it had half the budget starting out. It's like they really don't care about letting everyone know that they don't give a shit.
I'm surprised he didn't mention the coffee cup. That's worse that the crew member wearing a cowboy hat in frame in one the pirates movies Mel Brooks has a strict "no paper cups" policy on his sets. You want coffee? Bring a dark color mug
You haters are idiots.
According to a confirmed leak, Littlefinger is hiding in the coffee cup, waiting to come back.
Via HBO Nordic on my old ass Sony TV the episode looked beautiful. With tons of little shit moving on the screen the streaming just couldn’t stay on top of it all the time.
Benioff was the genius who gave us the version of Deadpool with his mouth sewn shut...thereby subverting a lot of expectations.
We were blinded to the truth for far too long evidently
How dare you. Sewing deadpool's mouth shut was compelling story-telling
It must have one hell of a night in LA when they realised you could just write off a bad idea as 'subverting expectations'.
Wait...wait...Benioff was responsible for completely fucking up Deadpool?
@@jollytroopersucks Pretty sure Tom Rothman was to blame for fucking up Deadpool in Wolverine.
How does it feel to have lived long enough to see everything that you love be burnt to the ground?
It feels horrible. In my case, I feel it was a waste of time and emotions. I will pretend the last 2 seasons didn't ecxisted and keep in my memory the other 6.
I clapped when I saw a RLM reference!!
A little annoying, but very entertaining.
pretty much everything i love has been long dead so pretty good.
It feels wonderful...
God this shit really drives to swallow a handfull of blackpillz
The screen is dark and full of errors.
>Copypasta.
@EmperorJuliusCaesar actually I do care
@EmperorJuliusCaesar you might think that but people stealing other peoples shit to get likes is what i find pathetic...
Writers Dumb and Dumber are pathetic without already great books to copy from!!!!
what a horrible aspect ratio to have a curse!
It was good because they had books to ripoff from.
Now their lack of any skill show.
I don't think "ripoff" is an appropriate term here...
I don't watch Game of Thrones but I've heard a lot about it. One thing people always noted was how well written it was.
They don't say that anymore.
I suppose it does highlight GRRMs' abilities as a storyteller.
Isaac GRRM isn’t writing the show anymore
@@BlardyBlah I think that was his whole point.
Writers are to busy compacting shit in each other's ass to bother with good writing!
We just want our expectations to be APPROPRIATELY subverted and IN SERVICE TO A GOOD STORY.
Nailed it.
How dare you implying ryans movie was bad you manbaby
That'a clearly too much to ask and WHY DO YOU HATE WOMEN?!!?
Thanos subverted my expectations by winning. All these other attempts are dog shit.
Thanos subverted my expectations by winning. All these other attempts are dog shit.
The worst military strategy I have ever scene on screen
Fact.
So annoying wasnt it.
Haven't watched The Last Jedi then?
What's wrong with throwing a big part of your army into total darkness towards a much bigger enemy force that is basically unstoppable and that only has your total destruction as their single goal?
Or placing your trebucets vulnerable in front of everybody?
Having a perfectly fine defendable castle with strong walls that you ignore until you seriously need a place to retreat to?
Not having rocks or combustable fluids ready on top of the walls for an enemy that can be defeated by fire?
Really sounds like the very experienced masterminds that came up with this plan thought this all though a lot! Deep respect for Tyrion, Varys, Jon and all the others for this genius strategy!
Yup a clear demonstration these are uneducated hacks that can not be bothered to read a damn history book for references!!!!
"Subverting Your Expectations" is the new "M. Night Shyamalan Twist" for Talentless Hollywood Hack Writers!
The success of GoT has literally nothing to do with Benioff and Weiss!
It's all because of the amazing work of GRRM that they were adapting!
If I traced over a Leonardo Da Vinci sketch that doesn't make me Talented Artist!
SpeedBoost I wouldnt write them off too much, they did a fair job adapting the material they had which is harder than it sounds since they're two completely different mediums. It's their creative writing that's the problem.
@@JHawke1 exactly. They're actually masters of their craft. Game of thrones was just way bigger than them
+@@MsDragonbal776
Their joint crowning achievement prior to hoodwinking GRRM was writing the worst X-Men film of all time X-Men Origins Wolverine!
They are "Masters of Schlock" and nothing else.
If they were "Masters" then the quality dip wouldn't be so noticeable once they didn't have GRRM's books to leech off of.
@@SpeedBoost Worst of all time? Lolno. Apocalypse is the worst of all time. Period.
@@SpeedBoost In Beniof's defence Origins did have a solid infrastructure, it was Rothman who barged in, made it a safe and generic action film and ruined Deadpool.
I will NEVER support anything dumb and dumber are involved with ever again.
Me too. I don't want to hear or see anything about these two idiots!
You sad bastards 😂
I do hope the next Star Wars main trilogy will be the story of Revan from Knights of the Old Republic. And there would of course be lots of existing writing for D&D to use, like they did manage to do in the earlier seasons of GoT. But well. Perhaps it's safest to can these guys. Hire someone who at least hasn't monumentally ruined a legendary franchise yet.
Dismissive drive-by posting in a sensitive topic. well, if its just adapting, maybe they can do it... maybe
Were these guys actually involved for the last Jedi disaster? It would make sense that they did it again. I thought it was Rian Johnson. If these guys are involved in future Star Wars forget it.
The point of a subversion is to give something the audience didn't expect, BUT ALSO works just as well if not BETTER.
When a character is Snoked, the audience didn't expect it because it leads nowhere.
Getting chocolate when you expected vanilla is fun, getting an empty wrapper is frustrating.
mariokarter13 it just ruins the story too, all the build up and a mysterious villain all for nothing. No closure.
i fucking love vanilla though
That was a perfect analogy and I'm stealing it for future discussions.
Snoke isn't comparable to the Night King though. Snoke didn't have 8 seasons of buildup -- he was barely even in The Force Awakens.
I honestly think that the snoke "problem" has more to do with the community speculation than anything wrong with the story
@@freddiesimmons1394 it has more with buildup. He was being set up as the strongest dark side user of all, he used the force though a hologram in another ship
He beat Rey, the Mary Sue, and genuinely caused fear on her, he had potential to be a memorable villain.
But then he dies and now the villain is Kylo, who already got his ass beaten twice, js not intimidating and not memorable.
You're correct. Johnson Night Kinged Snoke. But since that is not the direction time flows in, "Snoked" is now the verb in use, not "Night Kinged."
@@freddiesimmons1394 Not really. A herd of people don't all speculate in a certain direction unless you point them there over multiple seasons.
Snoke was just a waste character. NK should have required a group effort. 2/3 of the main characters have Valyrian Steel weapons. It should have been a gauntlet as they all fought him, and any one of them could have gotten the killing blow.
@@luizfelipevbf5567 how could he have been the strongest if he got owned my a mere apprentice? It was obvious he wasn't ever supposed to be the main bad guy. If anything, he's a direct ripoff of Palpatine and would have been a terrible main villain.
Why do they need to 'subvert expectations' anyway? We just wanted a straight up continuation of almost 10 years of leadup. Nobody wanted 'subversion' for subversion's sake.
Nobody is not quite accurate. The showrunners certainly did want it. "Screw the audience - we do what we want. Common sense and military strategy be damned!"
But I agree that most of the audience probably didn't want this.
I personally am very glad that I just read the books and did not waste time nor money on seeing the show.
@@ranekeisenkralle8265 I read the books, and when the series started I was really not bothered to watch it... but I did and I loved it.
However this rushed and illogical conclusion is just such an inexcusably sloppy ending to whats been a momentous TV show (at least at the beginning it was momentous).
I'm just gobsmacked that HBO have thrown it under the bus like this. Talk about killing the golden goose.
I watched all of Dexter, and loved it all up to the final episode and when Deb falls in love with him (so cringe).
The two of them are Jews, Jews love subverting.
Their egos. They probably think they are some literary geniuses or some crap like that. "Wow they didn't expect that huh?"
@Captain McDog "Bait and Switch". true. that is all this cheap 'subversion' is.
jumped the shark once characters started teleporting from once place to another like Varys
magic blue flame of death?
Part of the End Times Lockdown Screw The pooch Shithouse Up In Flames Scenario:)
You just showed that you are even dumber than the rest of these idiots posting on Midnights Edge's videos (who is an even bigger idiot than his viewers btw).
There have been *ZERO* "teleportations" as you refer to it. There has only been long spans of time between scenes, but apparently you lack the braincells to recognize such a thing as happening without big old letters on the screen saying "FIVE YEARS LATER" like they had to do for morons like your ilk when they made Avengers Endgame. Many televison and film properties over the years have done time jumps between scenes and most people, those who can actually think for themselves and not fall into the groupthink of moronic wannabe nerds at least, have had no problem recognizing that fact.
And you also seem to not have noticed that these time jumps have been happening on Game of Thrones since the very first episode of the show, yet another clue to either you being a complete imbecile, or just someone falling in line and following the sheep who listen to all the naysayers online who only know how to bitch and complain about various franchises, all without realizing that the only reason channels like this one do so is to draw in your views (or in the case of websites, your clicks). And for the record, I didn't waste my time watching the video, I just came to peruse how stupid the comments were going to be, and laugh at them. But your comment's topic caught my attention, as it has been a minor pet peeve of mine lately.
@@TheGeekyHippie
It's funny you call people sheep. Here you are in the comments of a video you (by self admission) didn't and won't watch. Your only purpose here is to start fights attacking people who dont like your garbage tier show. Plus, your speech is peppered with so many "I'm a big brain intellectual who is smarter than all you peons who hate GOT" comments, I'm amazed you aren't a copypasta from r/bigbrainincels. There are far more people still defending game of thrones claiming it's still the best show ever. Therefore, by default, you are part of the sheep masses and not thinking for yourself. If you did that, then you might realize outside of storytelling mistakes the episodes have legitimate huge technical issues that a big budget show shouldn't be suffering.
Glenn Myron Everyone knows that genius. Of course we assume some time happened. The fucking point the show previously made the effort to make it look like distances mattered. Now they just magically move all around the map. When Arya first traveled to Winterfell from Kings Landing took months if not years to complete the task.
I am a professional cinematographer, yes I blame D&D and Director because the blame stops with them for final cut and vision of the episode.(and lack of)
The Cinematographer shot with ARRI Alexa cameras most probably in ARRIRAW, which can RECOVER shadow and highlight information, if shot underexposed in the colour grading process with Davinci resolve software no problem. The editor and colourist could have made it brighter but I guess the brief was to “be as shit as possible please.” Just like the strategy for the living to fight the dead
I'm an editor... don't blame the editor lol. They're all ACE editors, they know the craft. This was all on color and the producers for signing off on it all and most definitely the compression. I have 110mb down/ 10mb up, 4k HDR TV, watched it in pitch black and it was still awful. I saw tons of artifacts, the blacks and greys were atrocious. Also, how that passed QC i don't know.
Yea they only had like 18 months to do 6 episodes....you’d think they’d get it right
@@blackbeltmedia4595 What is meant by artifact?
Black Belt Media I am a professional editor too, I am not blaming the editor, they have to follow a brief, I am tempted to fix the episode with davinci Resolve and neat video plugin.
@@kidicaras2719
It's difficult to avoid the thought that the dragon battle was shot in a fog because they couldn't get it to look convincing.
It was dark on regular cable HBO too, WTF is the cinematographer talking about?
Even regular cable is more an IP type connection. But it does have priority so shouldn't be a "sub-par" bit rate.
yeah it was dark as fuck
They purposely make it dark to save money on CGI and other things.
Bullsh*%t. That was talking about.
The combination of political propaganda and overly dark cinematography has turned me away from almost all current live-action television. My family mostly watches cartoons and anime these days.
Their failure is that they need a great writing team. Great writing teams seem to be in short supply in Hollywood.
@No name ok Well, we can see how THAT worked out. Empire Strikes Back had a better story because of writer/director conflict.
Benioff wrote Wolverine Origin nuff said.
That was a movie ruined by the Writer's Strike and studio meddling though.
Tom Rothman re-edited X-men origins Wolverine down to a pg-13 rating and he was responsible for Deadpool looking like Baraka from Mortal Kombat.
The guy who wrote the film that thought it was a good idea to put a muzzle of Wade Wilson (Deadpool). Outstanding idea. Subverted all expectations.
Euh i taught it was Weiss
Marc Shimpar Petty fanboy nonsense? Not really. The writing on GoT this season is like that of a kid in an 8th grade creative writing class. Last season was mediocre at best. What fiction has he ever written on his own that is particularly noteworthy?
I literally said during this last episode that the show was pulling a Dexter and will ruin its legacy.
Wow, If the Dexter finale has competition....that's a scary thought.
Even Dexters ending isn't this bad
Ffs
Lost had a waaay worse ending.
Actually with the creative bankruptcy in the entertainment industry becoming more and more obvious we should get used to seeing crap like this more often. It is still going to get a lot worse before it hopefully gets better again.
@@ranekeisenkralle8265 At least we have Endgame, LOTR, Breaking Bad, and Harry Potter. Having a tough time coming up with very many other shows/continuing series that wrapped up successfully. Indiana Jones should have ended with him and his dad riding off into the sunset. The Dark Knight should have ended without the restaurant scene. Toy Story 4 - what are they thinking????
As a Book Reader the show feels like a Bad Fan fiction since they run out of books
2nd season for me with how they dealt with the hound. Pretty much said that I was waiting for the books then at some point finish watching the show.
I for one am very glad that I sticked to just reading the books and not wasting time nor money on the show. For two main reasons. Firstly I prefer reading books over watching television. Secondly because I know from experience that with book adaptations there are always little bits and pieces getting lost or left out (sometimes even bigger chunks) which distort the overall story to some extent. Besides, I prefer to imagine stuff first-hand over just watching how someone else imagined the story and turned it into a show.
What’s Game of Thrones? Oh, you mean the Arya show.
But it would be ok if it was Jon's show, right?
Actually Tyrion gets the most screen time. So, it should be called the Tyrion show.
No it wouldnt be fine if it were Jon's show.
@@JRobertMorse Ironic - he gets the most screen time, but what has he actually done these past few episodes?
@@zenithquasar9623 its about the set up not the gender.
Arya had her quest line already.
tell me something,she just killed the most menacing creature on the 7 kingdoms are you interested on her killing a mere mortal Cersei now?
As soon as you mentioned "Dexter" I said ohhhh shit because I knew what you meant... you are 100% right.
GoT has jumped the Stark...
Literally
it jumped the shark when they didn't get author come in and give his insight, the guy didn't even see season 8, so fuck the show I'm going wait for the book, GOT became SJW trash
@@kyotheman69 Hell yes it did. There bas been so much bullshit attached to that show. The show jumped the shark better than Fonzie did.
(Arya puts on shades) *EEE-YEEEEEEAAAAAAAAAAAAAHHHHHH!!!!!!!!!!!*
"Jumping the shark" assumes there's somewhere to go from here. They shit the bed.
Episode 3 of the final season of GOT reduced the "big bad" of the series to little more than a Scooby Doo villain (done in a single show)...SMH
When Arya killed him I did the Scooby Doo's "HAH". I swear it!😂
Yup it was like Monster of Week. Ugh
@@Emy-fv5ny
I went full-on "Zoinks", personally...lol
Makes you wish the entire first 3 episodes were the great war. One ep of filler then two episodes if the last war.
@@dereklewis4321
That would've been far more satisfying than what we got. They could've just called episode 3 "Nothing Much To See Here...".
Hiring these guys to do Star Wars was not a weiss idea
Iseewhatyoudidthere
Badum -Tssss!
Lol - good one!
I have zero interest in anything that those who've you mentioned are part of.
I said it before once they went off book it was all over
Yeah that's basically what all book readers say, and I think that the non-readers also noticed a big change since that moment.
But for me, things went downhill after Tywin's death. There still was book material after that (with the sparrows) but I never really liked that part, even in the books.
These new people were just introduced too suddenly as a new problem.
As someone who has been reading the books since 2001 (and read all of them 3 or 4 times, except Dance which I only read twice back in 2011) I am pretty darned happy with the series since we have gone "off book." And even the changes made before that have mostly been fine in my opinion (except the two scenes that were turned into rapey scenes on the show), as things that work in prose do not always work on screen. And then there was the fact that a number of characters had to be aged up (the Stark kids, Missendei for instance). These small changes led to other changes which led to others being needed which led to... well, you get the picture.
The key points of how the series wraps up are going to end up being the same as the books. That's the *KEY* points, not all the points, or even the major points, but the biggest most important plot points. And I am fine with that. I don't actually *want* the show to end exactly the same as the books, and I never did. Did anyone here want Captain America Winter Soldier to be the same exact story as the comic run Winter Soldier? How about Civil War? Never saw anyone comlaining that those were "off-book."
isn't it funny how many people in hollywood fail upwards?
White people...
@@21stcenturyhiphop
... I smell _bait_ ...
@@zoopdterdoobdter5743 I smell truth, you can tell cause it usually stinks😟
@@21stcenturyhiphop I mean, sure we could look for real causes, but why would we do that when we have skin color to base our judgments off of? I mean, shucks, looking deeper might actually fix it, and nobody wants that.
@@TheAdarkerglow exactly, and unqualified white show runners will continue to ruin GOT, so we're fucked both ways.
Scrap these dudes too, I read the Russos Bros finished their contract with Marvel...
Romel Muñoz if they want a trilogy, get Nolan to do one. Give him full creative control. He did justice to batman. He would for star wars
Maybe after he fixes Doctor Who...
@@raidthanfl Nolan is good but too serious for Star Wars
@@maxbaugh9372 - Who cares? It can't be any worse than what Star Wars is now.
Yeah, but the Russos also need source material.
First they did it to the Star Wars fans
I didn’t care because I’m not a Star Wars fan
Then they did it to me
The future of Star Wars is getting darker than that episode.
There's a light at the end of the tunnel, and that light is 2019, a very good year for Star Wars.
('Taken from the LiveChat') *Eric Kelly* "Season 5 of Babylon 5 was done in a rush and it's leagues better than most stuff today"
^So agreed! Well stated.
No offense to Nerdrotic and DoomC, but if you want an actually good breakdown i would look for Mauler's video on the subject.
Mauler ...breakdown? ?thats not a breakdown that is statutory rape in digital form.
@@yukiotakata
Okay, I won't ask you what you meant, cause I don't think you really know and I don't want to embarrass you.
@@stoicvampirepig6063 ownnn...
All 3 were good for me.
Lol mauler rapes the vids 😂the other 2 give their thoughts
Subverting expectations
=\=
Good storytelling
It's secretly not meant to be. It's a cheap shortcut to profit and notoriety. They profit off of the drama created by subverting expectations instead of exceeding them.
It's shameful.
Season 5 is when GoT started to go downhill
I'd say season 4, episode 10, with the Tysha drop actually, but yes
Agreed. When Jon Snow died so did the creativity.
Yeah, the problems started there. The mistakes were minimal and then they became a huge snowball rolling down a hill.
I agree but i think most of season 6 was alright, season 7 and 8 are unwatchable though
Dumb & Dumber completely ruined the series now
Just have them adapt a trilogy of SW novels, problem solved.
A faithful adaptation of Darth Bane's trilogy would be KILLER.
@@anibala.moralessanchez8018 Or the three original Wraith Squadron books.
"A faithful adaptation of", well, sadly that alone is a stretch for many movie/TV directors in modern times. Some due to the medium, the rest due to incompetence with what a good story is, lol.
Well a few problems there, the quality of the novels vary a lot, some are good, other are just awful.... and two, well everyone aged a lot, and some died, they would not match the age of the characters in the books would need recasting which will have their own issues
They probably will. Disney can only recycle now.
They should stop subverting expectations, and start living up to it.
It's sad to see all this hard hard work in costuming, makeup, special effects for these shows only to have some serious failings elsewhere. I feel bad for the efficient staff who ARE focused on their jobs just to be smeared by amateurs slacking off.
As a comic book reader, I can say that I saw this a lot! It always happens when a narcissistic writer (who was once a fan) get the reins of a book ans its characters, is more interested in"leaving his mark" than serving an audience or creating a fulfilling story, they are obsessed in causing shock, surprise and " subverting the expectations. And mind you, they were fans one day, so they know the fandom, they know what they like and hate, how the fans react and expect from a particular story.
They love to see how people react to what they do with beloved characters and the dismay and anger that they are able to evoke with their creative decisions. Creating expectation just to deliver an disappointing end is just another way to yank the chain on the fans. Worst: they do ego search and know the criticism they get ans sometimes write a story just to troll the fans that dislike their job.
They are just like Ryan Johnson and the two hacks adapting Game of Thrones, egotistical hacks that are not interested in delivering a story, but in how people will react to it. At the end, you don´t have a comic book/move, but a very elaborated prank where the only thing that matters is to have fun at expense of everyone else.
I’m REALLY hoping Martin doesn’t let the show affect how he writes the books.
vincent207 i hope he does. I hope he makes changes to the garbage we have seen the last several seasons
He wont. Martin stopped watching GOT a long time ago. he's on record saying that and we all know why.
He writes books? He will continue to write?
@@chrisg5219 ?? he literally released a book 6 months ago...
Dan & Dave are also burnt out and exhausted with making the show and want it to end, that’s partly why everything feels rushed and sloppy.
GOT seasons 7 and now 8 were the worst. People bopping all over the map, no character development, just people doing stuff.
Nothing that was not happening since season 5
How's life on Mars?
@@bawad01 awesome, we actually got a different version of GoT who don,t suck here
Rian Johnson will not be writing a Star Wars Trilogy. It has already been confirmed.
Captain Howdy I’m sorry, but is he simply not writing it or has the trilogy actually been cancelled? Because him simply not writing it is not good enough. It needs to be cancelled.
I'm almost disappointed he won't be. I would have loved to see the complete shitshow it would have been.
I hope this is true.
I would need proof of this confirmation. Not that I don't believe it but I try to temper my expectations anymore in today's climate.
@@LordZedz lmao
People where hoping for a good final season to GOT but their expectations where subverted.
You should read the books, the series really didn't do them full justice.
Yup. Not even remotely.
Indeed, not even close
I enjoyed the books, but the last one was so long ago my memory only comes up with "that was one boring ass book with a very frustrating ending ".
Yeah...naww... I've been burned twice already by starting a book series before the author finished them only to have them die. Martin's a dead rich man walking and I wouldn't blame him at all if he spent his last couple years of life burried in hookers and blow.
yeah maybe. But if you do not know the books you still got a fairly great TV show with great dialog and an compelling storyline and deep characters with fascinating development.
But now, after source material ended, even us wo do not know the books realize that more and more shit is thrown into our faces, selled to us as roses scent
I "heard" that the torrent versions were very high quality with very little, if any, artifacting at all making them better quality than the stream you have to pay for.
englisheskim0 it was still pretty dark. It was a bit better watching in total darkness and max brightness but still bad in some scenes.
Surprised the coffee cup didn't get a mention lol.
"Subvert Expectations" is the "fake news / alternative facts" of moviemaking
Okay, who's at fault? J.J. Abrams and his mystery box approach.
Didn't help that Ryan Jonson brought gasoline.
No. Disney is at fault 1000%. You don't start a trilogy without at least an idea of the story you want to tell. Star Wars is a failure because it is clear no one had an idea of where they wanted it to go. In fact, this is not Rian's fault, but it's obviously clear the fault of not wanting to tell a greater story. The frustrating aspect is just how easy of a story they fucked up.
There's nothing inherently wrong with the mystery boxes, but there has to be something in them.
Unfortunately, Rian Johnson thinks an empty box is the coolest fucking thing ever.
@@mariokarter13 JJ Abrams is not exactly known for putting things in the mystery boxes either.
@@TankHunter678 That's why handing the trilogy off to another director seemed like a good idea at the time. JJ does the setup, and now you have plenty of time to develop it and pay it off. If Kathleen Kennedy were a competent showrunner it could have worked.
Game of Thrones has had piss poor writing since season four end
YES finally someone who get it!!
I lasted to Season 6, and gave up when Arya developed plot armor
A Internet That armor is thicc
@@Aethelbeorn She could probably stand after a point blank ballista shot with how thick her armor is
@@bashamd96 lmao omg that cracked me!
The Dumb & Dumber Star Wars will be deader than a dragon shot at long range with an inaccurate weapon from an invisible ship.
Right???? That scene made me roll my eyes so hard.
I couldn't believe it. What was point to have dragons?
Oh! I remember, KILL THEM IN THE STUPIEST WAY!!
Imagine at the conquering of westeros, the old targaryens conquered almost all of westeros with only three flying dragons, see the field of fire.
The writing of D&D is contradictory to what has been established in-universe, even if you take into account that the dragons of dany are only half the size of the ones that Aegon The Conqueror and his crew had.
@@velveetaslingshot Well you're not going to like the last two episodes then...
Well it is pretty hard (in my own opinion) to push a loved ip onto decay in a more succefull fassion than rian johnson and his "the las jedi".
My friend finally convinced me to watch game of thrones. I binged the 7 seasons in about a month. It was crazy watching it slowly decline after season 4 then crash and burn season 7. Season 8 is just abysmal
I had the exact same thought about the GOT Producers' SW Trilogy after seeing Ep 3 as well.
Film makers don't understand "subverting expectations". They think that pulling a "haha gotcha" is what it's all about.
Contrast this with George R.R. Martin's work:
Ned's Stark execution came as a shock because readers let their HOPES guide their expectations. The author spent the entire book letting us know what kind of cruel spoiled kid Geoffrey was. What else should we have expected from him? And yet we let our empathy for Ned make us expect an unrealistic pardon. Expectations were subverted, but the characters and their society were NOT. Everyone behaved in a CONSISTENT way.
The same is true of the red wedding. Since Rob's first arrival at the twins his mother had warned him about the prickliness of Walder Frey. And she was afraid of setting foot in his castle until he had broken bread with them. We SHOULD have expected the Red Wedding. We did not because we liked Rob, not because of inconsistent behavior.
Great points. Also should be emphasized that Martin has lost the magic after the third book as well. Books four and five are not very good.
George R. R. Martin is probably sitting there laughing maniacally.
A one film set up, regardless of how many Mystery Boxes were inserted, is not the equivalent of spending over 7 seasons and 8 years building up a threat that could lead to the potential extinction of humanity, only to pull the rug out in the 11th hour and say: "Surprise! The real threat to humanity was humanity all along!"
It's fine; Final Season always runs the risk of being too predictable in the interest of tying up all loose ends to presumably give long time viewers a sense of satisfaction when the final credits roll, but that is a SEVEN YEAR red herring, whose only function was to reduce the vast resources of a superior military force that had been building for years worth of seasons to technically make the Final Battle a lower stakes, lower sized affair over the eponymous throne.
Season 3 of Dexter is fucking GOLD. Probably the best season of the whole show, John Lithgow's performance is haunting.
That's season four.
Subverting expectations is fine. But it has to be done in an interesting, and creative way that leaves the viewer wanting more.
Agreed. Season eight literally makes NO sense.
Killing off the nk after all that hype is the same as if Voldemort got done in before the battle of Hogwarts and Peter pettigrew turned out to the main villain smh.
All that potential with the prophecies and the dragons and what not... Just GONE.
subverting expectations just for the sake of subverting expectation is bad writing, especially when build up and foreshadowing was in the show.
@@linegenrou agreed. With two episodes to go, it's obvious it's too late now. Tbh it was assured when this was announced as the last season with only six episodes when all the others had an average of ten.
They could have kept on going to make it more realistic.
This season will the remembered as the most disappointing for the book lovers.
GOT should have ended at season six at best. This just messed it up.
I'm sick of subverting expectations. It's the fucking zombie movie of storytelling tropes. Enough already!
The moment they ran out of Martin's material, the show went to the toilet.
These people are creatively bankrupt, and can't be relied on to create a new story.
Aha! All these years I've been berated by Millennials for continuing to purchase blu-ray and UHD blu-ray and now the truth (as I've been stating for years) comes out. Streaming is POOR QUALITY!
If you want real entertainment then buy the real thing!
I'm with you Lensman.
I also will purchase THE HD- DVD as they are off the highest quality.
I still remember watching downloads of Series 3 off USB sticks.
I then borrowed Series 3 from my local library. It was the HD UV version. The quality was way better than the download3d episodes.
Series 5 the Episode called Hardhome is proof of quality. Again the color off the downloads was not good. Again I watched Hardhome 9 months after its TV debut. I was blown away by the richness 0f the sea.
@@FrostedSeagull why? the image might be good, but the same shitty script will be in it
5/7 books completed is a common mistake. the series was originally planned as seven books, yes. but books 4&5 are two parts of one book. that book is also, not one of the seven original planned books, but instead is all or part of a replacement of an originally planned 5 year time skip between books 3 and 4. he is currently, probably, working on book 4 of 7.
True. But it's not the official story.
It isn't the (incorrect) narrative that everyone keeps talking. It is the truth.
Watching the last episode had me thinking back to the Dexter finale as well. I am very glad you brought it up.
D&D are good ONLY adapting.
As writers? Oh, the Lord has mercy! I can't even describe how awful they are. They murdered GOT and I say murdered, because the show is already dead. The ending will suck for sure.
These two should not be allow to "write" anything anymore! They had the best show in tv. It was almost impossible to ruin it and they did it!
Star wars' fans do something to save your saga. You still are in time!
We are trying, Solo is a flop, the new toys aren't selling and Rise of the Skywalker is going to suck so we are not going to see it.
Lol... if they dont botch the new star wars trilogy... how can anyone (talented or not) fix this sad excuse of a AAA movie...
You weren't lying when your said the ending would be trash. What a disappointment
Who decided that “subverting” the audience expectations is a good thing? In no other context is subversion considered laudable; it implies not the creation of something new and worthy of admiration, but the corruption of one’s cherished hopes and dreams.
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It's a standard narrative device and works well if the subversion has been properly set up. And of course, if not, not.
Alan Pennie no, it’s a cheap bait-and-switch tactic practiced by lazy writers who would rather be cool and edgy than tell a story.
Correction: they didn't start to run out of source material in season five. They flat our ignored a whole book and started rushing toward ending the series. I can't fully blame them. I honestly don't think they'd thought about the story beyond the red wedding. I think they started to realize the monster they'd taken on and tried to cut corners but they did so in all the wrong places and completely fucked themselves over.
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The 4th and 5th books would be almost impossible to adapt so it's hard to blame them for not making much of an effort to do so.
If you read the leaks then GoT ending will beat Dexter!
Link to leaks?
Pray tell
I just read those. If true, I can't see anybody being happy with the finale. I look forward to the react videos of people kicking their TVs and throwing bottles at it.
Haven read them but I heard, Danny dies, John kills himself and Tyrion and sansa end up ruleing. I think it was a fan theory but at this point who knows and who cares. This show is garbage now
@@IM-bq7ep Not quite, no. I'm not going to post the spoilers here, but that's wrong. At least in part. But if you're focusing on just who ends up where you're looking at the wrong thing. It's what the characters do to get there that's going to make a lot of people angry.
Game of thrones had George Martin’s books to base their episodes off of. But they still dishonored certain characters. So now they don’t know what to do and have too much freedom in what they can do.
I just wanted to say thanks for introducing me to Doomcock.
Doomcock has a channel? I'm off to subscribe!
Search for Maulet's Unbridled Rage vid on The Long Night. It's, IMO, the definitive take.
@@zoopdterdoobdter5743 Damn, that video is indeed glorious.
I've never heard in my life so many fuckfuckfuckfuckinfucketyfuck
trucid2 it’s Overlord DvD
@@CatNerfer3000 we need scorched earth.... Entertainment is in shambles
Johnson + Benioff + Weiss... Something is missing I think. Throw in Kurzman and Orci in there and we have a dream team :D
@Samurai Jack It's like fantasy sports. But more funny :D Bring on more team members. Directed by Uwe Boll
Johnson doesn't even seem to be writing his trilogy. Knowing what I do of him, though, he'll probably do it on the fly making everything up as he goes along.
I doubt he's getting it anymore Kathleen was the only person who wanted him to and she's basically window dressing till episode 9 is out and they can replace her when people are actually willing to take her spot and Disney knows full well they'll make record loses if Rian gets his hands on Star Wars again
The only people excited for having D&D making a SW trilogy are those those people who watch the show drunk in a bar and scream every time something happens on the screen, like it's a football game or a carneval -.-
You mean those barflies who ruined this show by demanding girl power?
Andre is classy even when he RANTS!
And lol at the faith you still have in Bob Iger,this catastrophic GOTs last season may maybe give a BUMP up on DxD stocks at Disney.
All the men became stupid,incompetent or useless all the women cunning,powerfull or unbeatable.its exactly TLJs structural character base.
nonetheless Great video chief!!!
There is a lot more to this situation than you guys know. You are normally very good at this tuff, but there are TH-camrs who have been out there for years who have pinpointed even more behind the scenes information about bad practices that dragged this show down. It wasn't just when D&D ran out of book material, they purposely changed aspects of the series for very fickle reasons, like showcasing an actor they were obsessed with, even though that actor's character had no relevance to the plot going forward. And they ignored entire plot lines from the source material. Seasons 5 and 6 both, maybe even some of 7 (if it were a full 10 episodes) could have been filled up with adapting the 4th and 5th books. Instead they tried to condense over 2000 pages of material into season 5 alone. There are a lot of aspects to why this show has failed.
Episode 1: filler
Episode 2: filler
Episode 3: something dark and really really dumb, with "Dany witnessing the end of the Dothraki" (D&D), and subverting expectations
Episode 4: 70% filler, undercutting the "end of the dothraki" by still having 50% of the dothraki alive, no money for extras, and some hot garbage scene in front of kingslanding
Predictions:
Episode 5: more hot garbage filler, Dany burns kingslanding
Episode 6: They kill dany, hot garbage fillers
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Tbf no one knew what became of the Dothraki. Reasonable to suppose that not being suicidal they extinguished their flaming swords, rode round the Army of the Dead, and sat out the rest of the battle.
Good for them if they did.
@@alanpennie8013 No sorry, cinematography communicates a lot. The message conveyed by the scene is clearly desperation and loss of life, only a handful ride back. And in the interview at the end they said as much.
@@namenloss730
I'm watching against the showrunners.
@@alanpennie8013 Even if you ignore the interviews, the cinematography communicates something very different from what they say. Cinematography showed a handfull of living at the end of episode 3, not tens of thousands
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Maybe the rest were carefully keeping out of sight for fear that the named characters would be upset that they weren't dead
the way they were supposed to be.
The same thing happened to True Blood once it ran out of book material
True Blood never actually ran out of book material - Alan Ball just chose to throw out a lot of it, or had changed characters and things on the show so much that the book material couldn't be made to fit. If they had stuck closer to the books they would have had plenty of material for the show's run.
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Uncanny how that show tracked Dexter. Excellent first two seasons followed by a rapid decline into incoherent nonsense.
I think the best way to judge a show is how you end it. Dexter burned out and ended horribly. Compare that to "Breaking Bad" which was very well put together and ended perfectly. Of course, Breaking Bad didn't have books or any previous material like GOT or Dexter to rely on and then run out of. Dexter could have ended at season 5 and would have been perfect, but GOT has been something that has to end because audiences want to see who ends up on the Iron Throne finally. I have a feeling it's going to be a real disappointment considering that the last two episodes have been a little rushed. "We'll see..." said the Wise Man..
You have to ask yourself why so rushed. Why not 10 episodes this season? A little better dialog writing. I personally would not have had a problem with extending the Winterfell episode to two episodes with more expository writing.
@@exhaustguy They tried to get off cheap...and they got caught on it.
@@exhaustguy I agree... especially after last episode!
I first met George R. R. Martin in 1978 at the World Science Fiction in Phoenix, Arizona. It was in the hallway of a "Party Wing" at one of the two main hotels. He was sitting on the floor in the hall outside a party with a notebook in one hand and a miniature chess set on his lap. Already an author of note (his novella "A Song For Lya" published in Analog in 1974 won the Hugo Award the following year, and his short story collection of the same name won the Locus Award in 1977), he could clearly multi-task but despite his acclaim he remained a solitary figure (in a highly social situation) sitting cross-legged on the floor of a crowded hotel hallway. He clearly is not a very social or political creature. Benioff and Weiss are both types of creatures. They will do well in Disney's culture. And there are no circumstances where they could hold either George's notebook, or his chess set.
The difference between George and B & W is he is as unsentimental a writer as ever has been published in the co-joined genres of Science Fiction and Fantasy. B & W are highly sentimental. See the "Starbuck's Cup" scene in Season 8, episode 4. Case made. What you have to determine is: does their wide sentimental streak work for Star Wars? I think it does. Does their penchant for subversion work for Star Wars? I believe it does not.
As a published author for over forty-five years I know this field. George Lucas understood the field. He knew what he liked: space opera serials. He took their action-adventure tropes and wedded them to Joseph Campbell's postwar musings on mythology and a romantic Christian view of human existence (if you're good enough, like Obi-Wan and Yoda, you can even come back from the dead; if you're Anakin you can be redeemed by your son, Luke). That formula hit with the public, because it reinforces deeply held western views, while adding a dash of eastern mysticism straight out of Kurosawa's films. There is no way that undereducated brats like Rian Johnson can understand the depth's of George Lucas' work. Ditto with B & W with George R. R. Martin's work. I might even call this mini-essay: A Tale of Two George's!
I have read the books and been an avid watcher of GoT since episode one. Everything bad about the show (Dorne, seasons six and seven's teleporting, etc.) was all off book. As for the darkness of episode 3, I have a big screen television and watched it in the dark and it was still very difficult to make out what was going on. Star Wars is doomed.
Adjust the my ass, the editor messed up and won't admit it.
A simple slide off the contrast and brightness would fix it, all that other stuff was B.S.
Me after GOT season 7. “i cant wait for season 8”
Me after GOT Season 8 first 4 eps “is it over yet?’ I can’t take this anymore””
Fucking loved season 7....after s08e03 Im not really caring anymore...
Here is the truth, whenever special effects are poorly rendered...the producers and FX teams darken up the shots in post. I didn't see the episode...but those that have...repeatedly said that the special effects were poorly rendered--thus it is clear that I am correct. The FX team most likely did their jobs...but the rendering was rushed by the studio...thus they wound up with incomplete and poorly rendered FX shots, hence the need for the dark shots. BTW, you can actually change the aperture of shots making them lighter or darker in post--so don't believe the excuses being made here. Trust me, the cinematographer had nothing to do with this. PS: The visual artifacts...are yet another sign of rushed effects, due to the studio (HBO) forcing the FX team and producers to air the show on time...instead of delaying the series a few months. Trust me, special effects teams and other quality control people, in terms of film mastering, are charged with the responsibility of cleaning up visual artifacts. I once saw a woman...use an electronic pen...and go frame-by-frame cleaning up visual artifacts for a TV commercial. Today, you can use denoising software, texture mapping and other tricks in order to do it more quickly--but you have to go from shot-to-shot...and scene-to-scene...and that takes time. That said, HBO didn't give them enough time. They chose the cinematographer to play the fall guy...instead of admitting what really happened.
Honestly we should have seen this coming, after all, David Benioff only major productions seem to be X-Men Origins: Wolverine and Troy. D.B pretty much just got Sunny in Philly under his belt.
I wouldn't be surprise if they ended up marrying Jon and Sansa just for shock value.
naturo naturo
Jonsa is a thing among some fans I sorry to say.
I was waiting to binge watch all of GoT when it finally ended, so thanks for not featuring any spoilers. And thanks for the heads up on what to expect from it for the last seasons, so far. Erm...well...long live the original SW trilogy! lol. I'll happily rewatch those and enjoy them anytime. :) Thanks for vid!
....why would you even be watching videos on it then?
@@Erlisch1337 Welpsies...cuz I'm subscribed to this channel and try to watch all their videos when possible. I often start the video (or look for the word spoiler in title) to see what they'll be covering. If I feel it'll go too far I'll save it for later. So, I haven't watched any of their most recent Endgame vids for that very reason. Have plans to see that in the next week, hopefully, and will watch their Endgame content afterward. Hope I made sense, just woke up. Laters dude.
I never thought I would even dislike Bronn.
after starbucks coffee eps. 4 its obvious they stopped caring
Many are comparing their abilities to Michael Bay
Angela Sue
It's apt for the last couple of seasons which have been nothing but empty spectacle.
I watched MauLer's vid on the Mildly Short Night before watching Overlord DVD's review. Probably the most venomous Unbridled Rage vid from him I've watched.
The whole abandonment of the Azor Ahai (Lore set it up as being impossible for Arya) was the killer of the show.
For everyone complaining about Arya and the “feminist agenda”.....you are missing the big picture. Arya isn’t the problem, it’s clear they just wanted to wrap things up quick and they didn’t want to/felt that they couldn’t wrap up all lore and the white walkers up.
While there is the angle of “girl power” and doing something “unexpected”, I would argue this is the main reason why they picked Arya and cut the white walker stuff off quick with no addressing any of it.
Notice how they didn’t call Arya Azor Ahai which you’d think they would at that point, but instead retroactively repurpose a prophecy (she’s had big blue eyed kills, they had to reword prophecy to emphasize blue eyes and even D&D admitted that they knew 3 years ago about Arya, which is after the eyes prophecy showed up). This shows that, other than being unexpected, it was an easy pick to not have to address all the azor ahai prophecy stuff.
If it had been Jon, there’s no way they would’ve gotten away without addressing the prophecy and lore....hence they didn’t want it to be Jon.
Maybe prophecy is a load of crap? It is only important in how it might impact the sentiments of characters. That is a subversion I can get behind.
Michael Brammer I would be fine with that is it was done well but they acted like the prophecy never even existed.
"Let us just subvert your expectations in a way that also enables us to quickly end this franchise and run away to ruin another." ~ Benioff and Weiss, probably
the rot started WAY before the book material ran dry. Season 3's "chaos is a ladder" speech is what made me realize the show was fundamentally misunderstanding its characters. By the time Season 6 started I was laughing too hard at the show to continue
Could you elaborate please on how this scene informed you on what was happening ? Genuinely curious, never heard this POV.
The night is dark and full of Mary Sues.
Yes Last one. I've already found "Plot Armour", "Ex deus Machina." and now Mary Sue. Only you don't actually know what a Mary Sue is. Another person who has heard it mentioned by TH-camrs and think its cool to bandy around. But they don't understand what a Mary Sue is either.
Yet funny how no one even talked about it until one twitter post after TLJ.
Eh ...
Star Wars is dead. Disney killed it. All we can do is deprive them of our money.
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Excellent coverage, thank you. Thumbs up for using the proper "disorienting" instead of "disorientating". Huge thank you!
Game of thrones has turned into hot garbage. Can't wait for the Internet reaction when Jon kills Dany, Bran becomes King of the 7 Kingdoms and Jon goes back to the Night's Watch!
Thank you for saving me the trouble of having to watch the rest the shitty season.
Well this lines up with what I thought was going to go down with John and Dany. She is power hungry for some time. Didnt see who becomes king part though
Even though there's *NOTHING TO WATCH!*
Sensa will be queen
I don't like how they forced Jamie and brianne into a sexual thing. It worked better as a platonic love/ respect they had for each other.
Cersei, had she been written consistently, would have wiped out Danny and everyone at the gates with the archers. They really thought they could reason with cersei after she lied about helping them fight the night king and tried to have her brothers killed by braun? Give me a break.
Logic and consistent writing has been replaced by...ooooops gotcha! "Look the dragon is dead now, you didn't expect such a lame death..we are geniuses!"
Agreed. I thought Cersei would go Red Wedding style & take them all out. If she learned so much from Tywin, why not end it right there with Scorpions ready on the walls & the Golden Company ready to go right behind the gate? Efficient.
The Cersei thing i just supposed they where sitting just out of range
Roundhead Johnson continues to prove that he needs to grow up.
I'm still in shock that Ryan Johnson got approved for a Trilogy. He was best known for looper at the time. Put yourself in Kathleen Kennedy shoes and tell me you couldn't hire someone better. Whatever happened to the guy that directed Logan?
When you make epic scenes and good story people will buy merchandise,
blu Ray's I was planning to buy the whole series again in 4k video now I don't feel the urge anymore I feel like selling my game of thrones blu Ray's.
Kinda why i stopped buying the season after season 4