My talking during a roll consists of “shit” “fuck” “noooo” and giggling like Johnny Knoxville when I’m in danger. All followed by “Thanks man” and a hand shake.
You are clearly a great training partner. I also used to coach while I rolled. I am 51 now so having a safe training partner for myself is hard enough.🙏
I've said one word rolling and I think I have said it well over 100 times. That word is "nice" :D It's not even on purpose. I just blurt it out when an opponent does something that gains the upper hand and catches me by surprise.
honestly this is a part of bjj i would hate to lose, if someone came and told me to stop talking full stop or laughing when we are exhausted or something i would probably give up
My coach always said to me as a white belt, "If you're not tapping. You're not learning". Which didn't make sense at the time but, makes 100% sense, now.
@@JJoh4040 because your partner can get upset. I once was rolling with a guy and i heard someone say something funny so i laughed and he was upset because "i wasn't taking our training seriously"...
@@JJoh4040 like Unknown 51 said, your partner may not appreciate the way you interact with them and doing so can breed a toxic gym environment. Not just saying something funny either, for example Chewie mentioned shit talking with his training partner. It was evident that the two of them are okay with the smack talk, but if your partner isn't, then you shouldn't engage in that type of thing while training in your gym. In competition, that's a whole other discussion (though I personally don't like it there either because I find it unsportsmanlike).
@@47indo47 id respond with if i was a girl id bump clams with other girls because it takes his confidence and spreads it like butter on the bread of irrelevancy just like his unnecessary ego
I blast doubled a guy completely off his feet and onto his back at my last competition, and I was concerned that he might have hit his head. I paused and asked him if he was ok, he said yes and we kept rolling. We’re not professionals and I know he probably has to go to work on Monday.
Yeah...that didn’t happen, but great story. Also has nothing to do with talking and rolling. Let me guess, you are 15 and do not grapple at all. We know.🙏 No one who trains would bother posting that.
@@TheDxbrown Beautiful double. The one critique the wrestler in me wants to give is that I'd want my left forearm breaking down the knee instead of a my grip but you might know something I don't. I'm gonna go watch that again now lol.
Been there. I’m a brand new white belt and had a 6 foot 4 beast of a purple belt get me with a knee on belly. Literally felt like I was about to pass out.
When I first started, one of the best ways for me to track my progress, was to roll with this Scottish guy at my gym, and see how many times he whispers "güd"
Everyday Dave that’s exactly what he’s talking about, don’t talk through the roll especially when you’re losing Save the the complement for after the roll.. the longer after the roll you wait the better
Everyday Dave ohh so you are joking about saying that you talk through the roll to give compliments, ok 😂- cause that’s what guys who are getting beat do and it comes off as condescending and not accepting that an opponent is kicking your butt But if you’re being sarcastic, I get it 😂
the two I always use are when someone overhooks me from half guard, and I clamp down on the wrist and say "Now Youse CAN'T leave" which is a quote from the bronx tale. Stuff like that. Jiu Jitsu is supposed to be fun.
It's lame, but if that's what the guy needs to do to manage the mental beatdown jiujitsu can give, then do it. Hopefully it's just a bridge until he can handle it in a better way.
I've got one rolling partner who cant arm triangle me. He had it in for 40 seconds and I just sort of let him gas his arms out. When he let go I told him he had some space left and was basically just neck cranking. He probably needed that feedback.
I wont lie, I talk all the time, in good spirit of course. Especially when I have good competitive roll. I compliment my opponent and thank them for training with me.
In my gym, a moderate amount of chatter is pretty standard. Only once did a newer student announce to our instructor she "tapped everyone in class." They were politely told such talk is taboo and they apologized. Sometimes it's a lack of self awareness. Most of the time the chat is after a roll, a brief "that was a nice sweep/ you really caught me w/ that sub." Respectful, no ego. Other times it's more like, "can you show me how you did that/ what can I do from that position?" Genuine, trying to learn from the roll. Personally, I talk. And this video won't change that. When I roll with lower belts, I let them know at the start they can work what they like, I'm not here to smash them. I let them advance according to their skill level. I will help them through positions and submissions, likewise. With anyone "on my level" I'm generally silent during the roll and will complement/thank them afterward. I legit have to focus and this is time for me to improve on myself. Also, I'm 36 and usually need to conserve my energy for these rolls. When I roll with brown and black belts, again, I'm focusing and trying to conserve energy. Occasionally, if anything, a light hearted, self depricating, "oh no!" or "this isn't good." will slip out. Sometimes when I'm really getting smashed I'll ask coach why he's doing this to me, I thought we were friends.. Of course, I know why he does it. Hell, I'm paying good money for it. 😂🤣😂
I'm 35 and you and I share the same mindset. I'm in it for the long run and I'm there to enjoy it. For others it might be talking ego talk or trash talk or they take it too serious. I don't do that I just like to roll and have fun and smile and have a laugh.
So I m a two months white belt , can I compliment higher belt during and after rolls ? I genuinely was amazed at their moves .. not sure if I embarrassed them.
I had a weird scenario in competition a few months back was there all day for like 12 hours and was in the absolutes and just didn’t care anymore and this one guy tries to leglock me and while he went for it I said “dude that’s not gonna work on me” and he actually stopped going for it I was just bluffing and messing around cuz of how long I’ve been there for who’d have thunk
I was stuck in a straight ankle lock in the finals of a tournament once, at a time where I didn't know jack about leg locks. The dude is reefing on it as hard as he can while I'm laying there like a dead fish with my hand hovering over his leg in case I need to tap. I'm not sure what he was doing wrong but I really just wasn't feeling it. We made eye contact at one point and I just kind of shrugged at him and said "I don't know man". We were stuck like that for like 2 minutes! 😂
I’ve had incidents where I’m so close to submitting an upper belt, they’ll admit defeat before I can tap them, but they’ll go back and tell me what I was doing wrong, and I find that really helpful 🤙🏽
If I get caught in a sub by a lower belt, the only time I start to coach is if I feel like they are starting to give up on the submission. I'll usually say something like "Dont give up!" and "Keep working it!". I do this for 2 reasons, 1: if I'm defending it, I dont want them to stop believing in the sub. 2: I like to work my escapes and see if during live rolling if I can get out of a almost or sunk in sub. Love the content bro! Keep it up!
This shit is so distracting. But I only noticed it when I'm on the sidelines while everyone else is rolling. Sitting on the side and hearing two guys have a full conversation is so annoying. Lol.
@@JiujitsuFIIT i'm actually used to it because when practicing Ne-waza on Judo, our Sensei and some other students that aren't rolling will be shouting things like "keep your back straight, I SAID KEEP YOU BACK STRAIGHT!" haha.
I enjoy talking in the middle of rolling. I only get a few hours of the week with these guys, and I give a crap about them, and I sure as heck am not going to be talking when our teacher is, so rolling is the best time to talk. But usually when I talk, I am asking my partner how work was while he is sinking in an arm bar.
I have higher belts try to hit me with leg locks. My response is usually “I have no idea what you are going for so don’t crank it you got me” lol I usually get a puzzled look. Then the higher belts I train with regularly look over laughing saying he is a white belt lol Then they go roll with that guy and leg lock him 😂 Most guys are pretty cool about it though. Only been training 8 months so lots to learn. Probably doesn’t help that 3 of those months I focused on mma instead. Signed up for a tournament coming up so focusing on just bjj for now. Then back to mma. It’s more fun when someone is in your guard and you can hammer fist them in the head while trapping one of their arms and cutting the angle for arm lock. Bjj is easy compared to mma training lol Still fun though I enjoy it.
The only thing I say during rolling usually is something along the lines of "you good, you ok?" Being new and usually rolling with other new guys, I'm always kind of concerned about not hurting someone.
I'm glad you mentioned the story about the blue belt that was trying to talk you through what you should do. I go through that same problem in my gym. there's a blue belt that as soon as I get the best of them he gives up and acts like he gave it to me.. soooo frustrating
I am SO that guy, but not in like a mean-spirited way. I just like compliment people on a move I didn't see coming, mention something that happened last roll, whatever. Even when I'm going pretty hard, I just don't feel any mental or emotional pressure, so as long as I'm not out of breath, I'm just like hanging out with a friend while fighting them. It's odd because it's the opposite when I used to do striking stuff. I was completely silent start to finish. People hate me.
I was recently explaining interactions to a non-BJJka and said “when you practice, the way we catch up is not by talking/going for brunch, etc. When I see someone I haven’t in a while, we roll to see how much we’ve progressed and kinda let our bodies speak (sounds weird but 🤷🏻♀️)”. I guess what I’m trying to say here is.... “I agree”. Leave it to a girl to say more than needed 🤦🏻♀️😅.
In wrestling/judo we rarely chat in sparring/randori, even groundwork, we always going 100%. But I think relaxed sparring with some chat could actually give technique benefits, as there is freedom to exposure versus just to win.
Two stripe blue belt here.. I absolutely love talking during rolling.. but always playful, respectful banter.. "I didn't know you knew how to do that" is my favorite lol
Omg I roll with this big guy at my gym sometimes, and finally managed to get him on his back a few days ago, and froze up cause I was so surprised I actually got him
I used to train with a brown belt that was maybe a blue belt at best. He talked me through every submission I ever put him through. Finally I got to the point where I would crank the submission in the middle of him talking. People pulled me aside and told me that he was doing it to everyone including the higher belts. The professor had to tell him to quit teaching everyone mid roll. One time he freaked out during a sweep I hit him with, screamed it was illegal, went to the workout section of the school and started throwing the dumbbell weights around... Not kidding. Also, I'm not bragging... I'm nothing special. I get smoked all the time. He just wasn't a real brown belt and was insecure about it.
Unsolicited advice, especially from a lower belt, is pretty challenging. The client manager in me understands that all information is good, and the 37-year-old in me understands that it doesn't diminish my ability. But it can be a struggle for a 155lbs blue belt to take “advice” from a 280lbs white belt - ya, you definitely pinned me and that shoulder lock was tight. But about the differences in our size and strength...
Being a 4 stripe white belt, I sometimes say something like "that didn't work as planned " to the graduated coleagues I have more intimacy and I sometimes compliment new white belt for passing my guard, taking me down, etc. But it's all about not dying talk as a way to prevent losing or to bully people.
Great video. Actually very refreshing to hear. At my gym we tend to talk, and I have always preferred some sort of talking during a roll. Usually if somebody submits me kind of saying that was awesome. That’s about the extent of it though. And yeah, never talk Someone threw moves when they’re beating you. It’s an obvious face saving thing. For my part, whenever I am rolling with somebody it is out of fellowship so a secret part of me is rooting for them, and the other part of me that has that fellowship with them also knows that they deserve nothing less than my best. So if they got a submission on me then not only did they earn it but it was awesome and I am proud of them for it. But I’m gonna try my best too
That happened to me when I was a white belt going against a purple belt, got an uchi mata on him and afterwards that he starts “helping me out” on how to do stuff from side control. Thought he was being nice until afterwards he said “you know I went easy on you” lol that’s when I knew I had actually got him and he hasn’t let me the first couple minutes
You were a white belt against a purple belt. He was going easy on you. I had a similar thing when I first started. I always had more success against blue belts and couldn't figure out why......
oh no, I know he wasn’t, after the throw, I noticed him start to go easy at that point, almost exactly how chewy said and he started to tell me how to do stuff, I’m blue now almost purple, I know what “going easy” is, he wasn’t, I am 100% certain.
As a white belt I'm just now starting to not be so spaz-tastic and it's great to talk and laugh in a roll especially with higher belts. I feel like it shows them in real time that you are working. I mostly grunt with higher belts though and even that is a language on the mats 😂😂
Thanks for letting these sucker know when to talk I’m white belt with more mat time then some blue belts ( took class ten years ago 4striped w/b got injured a few times acl broken toe on the mats ) hate when ppl coach me thru submission
Three injuries time to recover and time work change in my program for few years change my life around opened up a business now I’m back it 6 months strong
Mat time means very little if you don't have the skill to back it up.. let's say in those 10 years your injuries and other events in life took you out of BJJ for 5 years. You're saying in 5 years you still haven't got your blue? Cool. You've got "more mat time than some blues". That doesn't mean much..
It's hard to admit, but I just realized that I am the guy Chew is telling not to be: I always talk and try to "help" other people submit me (and I'm only white belt). Thanks for pointing it out, I will stop doing it from now on, I will take my loss and I will own it
So glad I found this vid - brand-spankin' new BJJ student with only a month of classes so sparring for me is basically slow-mo chaos. Nervous talker and feel like I'm constantly apologizing and/or swearing. No one seems bothered by it, all of my rolling partners have been super nice. But none of them were talkers, so I'm always a little worried about it!
"as soon as I got into a dominant position he would relax and talk me through submitting him" I had to pause the video because I cringed so hard. You really encounter so many dbags on this journey
I always compliment a good sweep, take down, and/or guard pass. I feel like those are technical things that everyone should work on and are worth a compliment.
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In my gym the teachers always encourage us to talk while we're rolling, they say that if you can not hold a conversation comfortably then we are rolling too hard to learn the techniques well and we should calm down a bit.They gave us the advice that if your opponent is going too hard on you (not just submitting you, but rather being a bit reckless) you could just throw a question at him , to force him to slow down a and answer it.
My instructor makes small talk with us while we're rolling with each other. During my third class ever I was getting smashed and the instructor asked me from across the room, "hey Billy, do you know the name of that meteor shower tonight?"... I thought he was testing me to see if I could be distracted, so I ignored him. He kept asking me, "hey Billy... You ignoring me?" "I'm fighting for my life here!" ... Other times help put us in a mock match with real stakes, and then he cracks jokes the whole time and we're trying to fight each other laughing.
I’m new and rolled with an acquaintance. I actually enjoyed having a convo with him while still focusing on rolling. Also, I liked him giving me feedback while rolling for learning purposes, such as, that was a good move or you could have done an arm bar. Thanks for the video.
I've had people that were higher belts, talk me through what to do/how to do it. I will also give out compliments to other guys. Great escape, that was fast, good thinking, and so on.
@@craigcrissman4651 yeah, luckily the high ranks running the group were really experienced and noticed almost immediately that he was being creepy and aggressive - they kept him very far away from me the rest of the time I was there. He kept trying to come back and make me roll with him (outranked me a lot, since I was a white belt and he was a brown belt) - but anytime he came within 6 feet of me one of the higher ranked guys would grab him and rip him up for a round.
Maybe you haven't experienced this before, but I've had a different kind of talking issue when visiting some other gym. I knew a teenager that would try to start such deep conversations it took you away from rolling. Wether he was winning or losing he was constantly saying stuff to try to get you sucked into a conversation. A lot of white belts that rolled with him would get so distracted they were barely even rolling. I just wouldn't say anything when I rolled with him. He was also a white belt, he wasnt even bad he put up a pretty good fight most of the time for how new he was but idk man.
I had this exact situation where I as a whitebelt rolled with a senior TKD practicioner who shared mats with us and wanted to try BJJ. He put up real resistance up until the point where it was obvious he would not be able to defend my submission, and just as you said in the video he went limp and started talking to me as if he was my coach and graciously "let" me put him in a rear naked to "practice my technique".
Thank god im not a whit belt anymore so higher belts dont walk me through beating them. That used to kill the whole thing for me. Give me tips after the roll if you want, thats what ill do. Ill say like, " remind me adter the roll to show you x"
My second roll ever was with this one blue belt guy in the gym. he kept saying mad weird shit in my ear and he got to my back but I was defending the choke so he gave me a nuggy. I really didnt know or talk to this guy like that but I had about 3 months of wrestling experience so I knew basic concepts. I got a reversal and got to his back and gave him a nuggy and proceeded to constantly pressure him but he just curled up into a ball and didnt even try to get back on top.
@@Ezio9791 Its when somebody aggressively rubs their knuckles on the top of your head. The stereotypical bully move lol. I'm sure he was doing it in a joking manner but it still felt good letting him know that I could "bully" him right back.
@@Yerr_ItsNick Oh yeah that's a dick move because it can really hurt if they do it hard but it's still like "hahaha i'm just messing with you man xDDD"
We talk more after the fact. Like if I slipped a triangle or armbar, we'll wait for the round to finish and then critique each other positively. Never has it been a negative experience for me. But it's worth noting too, I'm a lower belt and upper belts will help me finish all the time. "Hey adjust this" or "dont forget your hook" or whatever. It never comes across to me as them talking themselves out of a loss, more that they're helping me get better at my game. There's hardly a better learning opportunity than live rolling and finding yourself in an organic position to say "hey, this is where you need to get that hook in". Maybe it's just a rapport thing? But I'd have never thought I was doing someone a disservice helping them finish a choke so thank you for sharing that. I'll be mindful in the future if I find myself doing that and someone is getting upset.
Me talking during rolling consists of things like: a little shit talking, complementing, asking if each other is ok, warning if we're getting too close to the walls & thanking each other
I was rolling with a pretty new guy at my gym, and I could feel him panicking when I passed his guard into Mount, and he did not try to advance his position, instead he would try to squeeze the life out of me... and then I chose to talk him through how to reverse it and submit me. Would you say I talked myself out of a loss?
I am one of the biggest guys in my school and I'm a blue belt, so I normally go a little lighter on the white belts. I have a decent amount of knowledge to know when I'm in trouble or something like that so I defend well. There will be times where I will kind of give them a favorable position to see what they will do and many times they don't take it and usually end up with a bunch of nothing on their end. Now I know how to escape or sweep, but I normally coach them through an option they didn't realize was there. It won't be some amazing rarely seen before technique. It's just that them being inexperienced didn't realize the capabilities from that position. So after I show them I say "Ok, lets go back to that position, but do it for real this time." At that point I'm in a bit more trouble now, but I am decent at defending. I see the smile on their face and that makes me happy because they walked away with something. A few times I got to see the fruits of their labor when they tried the same thing on someone else and I'm in the corner with the Pai Mei beard stroke. Should I stop? Or should I go through the roll and maybe take the time after to show them something?
If i went to a gym that discouraged talking doing rolling id find another one. As Chewy said, its part of the comradery and enjoyment of the experience. "Talking" as in , nice job or i messed up or maybe taking the time to explain a defense or submission. Not breaking down the minutes of your day to your rolling partner.
Yes it is cool when amongst friends or just keeping it I. A culturally playful school.But things like “whoops” or “oh oh” I don’t like. I’ll take that as a tap. Or like you said they start coaching as you turn the tide. Great post as always.
I was rolling with a guy 60-80 pounds heavier than me, and I took his back. Then he proceeded to actually tickle my feet. I was so in shock! Over the 7 years of training I had never been tickled while sparring lol!
@@colormesarge I know right. I was shocked! It has yet to happen again. Been training 10 years now this year. Only one tickle guard player I have encountered lol. He needs to make a tickle guard series he will make millions.
One of my two favorite partners and I alway have some sort of gay commentary. For example he was drilling a keylock to tap on me earlier and i said "harder daddy" to which he replied "shut up and let me love you!"
I’m with you on the talking to people who you roll with regularly. I’ve just come from class and I was doing that with some of my partners. Example, a guy I roll with every class - at the start you ready for these heel hooks brother, and a new guy pressing me from the top driving his shoulder into my throat, really trying, it wasn’t in I had my shoulder guarding it. I feel him let off and I tell him. If it makes you feel better that wasn’t in dude. His reply, thanks that does make me feel better.
There’s two guys who do this at my gym, I could never put it into words until I watched this video. They’re both 1 stripe white belts and they will walk even blue belts and purple belts through moves while rolling. I never knew why but it always rubbed me the wrong way.
I don't do bjj but from wrestling if it's competitive there's no talking, if it's friendly there's shit talking, and if it's a novice against someone good you give them encouragement for what they did right. The only time you give them advice is when they're obviously stuck and don't have an answer to something. I think conducting yourself in that way is good for everyone. No distractions when you're pushing yourself, learning to relax and joke around, and helping a novice who is stuck... Also for me, I think I became a better wrestler when I started teaching technique to the younger guys, and we were all the unskilled once. It's good hearing feedback. Obviously using it as a copout is bullshit Edit: just subscribed to you, came across this channel a few times and love your input on things
I came from a wrestling background and I preface with that bc most guys at my gym give me credit for the strength that I have in between positions and my positional defense. However even though I can pretty much control position and scramble out of many weak positions I do struggle with finding submissions. one day I was rolling with one of the vets (purple belt) and essentially he put himself in a dominant position I successfully scrambled and found myself on top mount. In the exchange my strength was just too much for his defense but after about 30 seconds of no progress and me just grabbing his wrists and trying to find something he taught me an arm bar which is now one of my fav submissions and one of my most successful. different circumstances but very similar situations
I also talk alot because of my depression its something i cant help unfortunatly but it helps me get some pressure out of my head. Iam very much ashamed about it but i told the student what my problems were and they say dont mind brother if its to much we will tell you right. That helped me so much. But during rolling i like to talk like wow I didn’t see that comming or damn your strong bro. And i like it and so do my trainingpartners to evaluate on the techniques and how to get better. I allways say honestly if a choke isn’t tight and what they can do about that because tight fucking chokes is sort of becomming my middle name. But iam am an idiot when doing a kimura so my trainingpartner helps me how to do that and i really appreciate it.
One of my coaches is a young guy in his early 20s and he’s a purple belt. He grunts like he’s struggling, which is hilarious as hell as hell cuz I know he can beat me up in a heart beat if he wants. I’m a 36 yr old white belt so it sort of breaks the ice for me. I love my gym.
My talking during a roll consists of “shit” “fuck” “noooo” and giggling like Johnny Knoxville when I’m in danger. All followed by “Thanks man” and a hand shake.
This is accurate
Lmfaooo this is me 😂😂😂
Same lol
Nothing wrong with that lol
Hahah the Johnny Knoxville giggle is top tier 🤣
I always start rolling with "choke me daddy"
I like to think I'm liked at my gym
My no. 1 escape without tapping - "Harder daddy!" 🤣
Hahaha
What's wrong with driving?
@@EroticBulbasaur i'm an excellent commenter
@@quantumjourney1 Imagine laughing at things that are funny
The real power move is to teach people escapes as you're applying submissions on them.
DMurdock I don’t like this either as I will sometimes know what to do or am about to do it.
That’s the best way to get better cause then you need to have another move ready for when they try to escape
You are clearly a great training partner. I also used to coach while I rolled.
I am 51 now so having a safe training partner for myself is hard enough.🙏
@@AmbicionEterna it's easy to know if someone is unable to escape a submission
That’s what I always do with weaker opponents
I've said one word rolling and I think I have said it well over 100 times. That word is "nice" :D
It's not even on purpose. I just blurt it out when an opponent does something that gains the upper hand and catches me by surprise.
Same here either "nice" or "that was good"
Me too! I also say "damn" when I almost get a move to go but they counter in time.
Mine is more of a "shit" "uh oh" or "dammit" sometimes I'll throw in a "fucker" for someone particularly sneaky.
Of course :)
honestly this is a part of bjj i would hate to lose, if someone came and told me to stop talking full stop or laughing when we are exhausted or something i would probably give up
I say “TAP!” Constantly while rolling.
My coach always said to me as a white belt, "If you're not tapping. You're not learning". Which didn't make sense at the time but, makes 100% sense, now.
Some guys might think you're saying it because you can't tap with a free hand though
i say this tooo
I know the feeling.
Or you try to say TAP and it comes out "GgrrrllddLlrr".
1. Be humble
2. Have fun
3. Make sure your partner is okay with you having fun
Amen
May you please explain number 3? Why's that a rule?
@@JJoh4040 because your partner can get upset. I once was rolling with a guy and i heard someone say something funny so i laughed and he was upset because "i wasn't taking our training seriously"...
@@Unknown-lj2kw I understand where they are coming from. Thank you for clarifying it! Much appreciated
@@JJoh4040 like Unknown 51 said, your partner may not appreciate the way you interact with them and doing so can breed a toxic gym environment. Not just saying something funny either, for example Chewie mentioned shit talking with his training partner. It was evident that the two of them are okay with the smack talk, but if your partner isn't, then you shouldn't engage in that type of thing while training in your gym. In competition, that's a whole other discussion (though I personally don't like it there either because I find it unsportsmanlike).
My talk is usually, "Oh no!" and, "Ahh Crap!" with an occasional, "That didn't work like I was hoping it would." lol
I say the occasional "oh shit"
Lol the same with the occasional "nice"
Haha I say "oh no not again" regularly, usually in the same roll.
Dude. One time someone was about to throw me and I said, "Please no." And he hesitate. And I got out of it
@@47indo47 id respond with if i was a girl id bump clams with other girls because it takes his confidence and spreads it like butter on the bread of irrelevancy just like his unnecessary ego
I blast doubled a guy completely off his feet and onto his back at my last competition, and I was concerned that he might have hit his head. I paused and asked him if he was ok, he said yes and we kept rolling. We’re not professionals and I know he probably has to go to work on Monday.
Cool story bro
Yeah...that didn’t happen, but great story. Also has nothing to do with talking and rolling. Let me guess, you are 15 and do not grapple at all.
We know.🙏 No one who trains would bother posting that.
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@@TheDxbrown Beautiful double. The one critique the wrestler in me wants to give is that I'd want my left forearm breaking down the knee instead of a my grip but you might know something I don't. I'm gonna go watch that again now lol.
@@samuraisteve2775 You owe this man an apology lol.
One girl in my gym was in S Mount going for a choke when she leaned down and says in my ear “ just let me love you” .
Sooo what happened after that?😂
Don't leave us hanging.
And thennnnn
Winner.
My fingers would start wondering lol
I yell out 'Ugh!' when the 200+ bull in our gym gets a knee on belly on me.
Nelson S god that sucks...
Me too when a guy unexpectedly presses his head into my solar plexus while they're in my guard
Been there. I’m a brand new white belt and had a 6 foot 4 beast of a purple belt get me with a knee on belly. Literally felt like I was about to pass out.
They all do.
Our biggest is 365 purple belt. Shit is rough. Lol
When I first started, one of the best ways for me to track my progress, was to roll with this Scottish guy at my gym, and see how many times he whispers "güd"
Sometimes I'll say "nice"', but more often, "uh-oh"...
I knew I talked during rolling but couldn't remember what I say. Then I read this comment.
🤣🤣🤣
@Rico. same thing here. a lot of the time i go uh oh. or crap. but when i see something awesome i go "ooooh awesome. yay"
Why is Chewy so good at jiu jitsu?
Because everybody let the Wookie win
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@@genaroldan_ BruhBruhBruhBruh
"Haha, I'm in danger!"
6400loser I always say this when some has a right submission
I do it all the time , but more to compliment people on choking me out in extraordinary fashion
Everyday Dave that’s exactly what he’s talking about, don’t talk through the roll especially when you’re losing
Save the the complement for after the roll.. the longer after the roll you wait the better
Mr Big Shot 978 Kinda joking here dudey cakes x
Everyday Dave ohh so you are joking about saying that you talk through the roll to give compliments, ok 😂- cause that’s what guys who are getting beat do and it comes off as condescending and not accepting that an opponent is kicking your butt
But if you’re being sarcastic, I get it 😂
Mr Big Shot 978 bro chill , haha you’re over analysing a random TH-cam comment just meant to make people laugh 😂
Everyday Dave 😂 pop!
YOU SHALL NOT PASS....my guard.
the two I always use are when someone overhooks me from half guard, and I clamp down on the wrist and say "Now Youse CAN'T leave" which is a quote from the bronx tale. Stuff like that. Jiu Jitsu is supposed to be fun.
Jbzero999 and you're teaching cinematic culture
I'm almost cheering on the dudes I roll with, I try to hype them up, it's about fun not winning to me.
This is the same kind of guy that magically has internet problems when he's gonna lose a video game. Lol
🤦🏾♂️Please don't be that guy who "helps" someone else finish the submission they had no problem getting you into...
Exactly.
It's lame, but if that's what the guy needs to do to manage the mental beatdown jiujitsu can give, then do it. Hopefully it's just a bridge until he can handle it in a better way.
What about when they are doing it wrong and are definitely going to hurt someone that way?
They're trying to protect their egos.
I've got one rolling partner who cant arm triangle me. He had it in for 40 seconds and I just sort of let him gas his arms out. When he let go I told him he had some space left and was basically just neck cranking. He probably needed that feedback.
I wont lie, I talk all the time, in good spirit of course. Especially when I have good competitive roll. I compliment my opponent and thank them for training with me.
i'm the same, mainly cos i'm new and still amazed by all the possibilities. Nothing wrong with having fun and paying respects. Good vibes only
In my gym, a moderate amount of chatter is pretty standard. Only once did a newer student announce to our instructor she "tapped everyone in class." They were politely told such talk is taboo and they apologized. Sometimes it's a lack of self awareness. Most of the time the chat is after a roll, a brief "that was a nice sweep/ you really caught me w/ that sub." Respectful, no ego. Other times it's more like, "can you show me how you did that/ what can I do from that position?" Genuine, trying to learn from the roll. Personally, I talk. And this video won't change that. When I roll with lower belts, I let them know at the start they can work what they like, I'm not here to smash them. I let them advance according to their skill level. I will help them through positions and submissions, likewise. With anyone "on my level" I'm generally silent during the roll and will complement/thank them afterward. I legit have to focus and this is time for me to improve on myself. Also, I'm 36 and usually need to conserve my energy for these rolls. When I roll with brown and black belts, again, I'm focusing and trying to conserve energy. Occasionally, if anything, a light hearted, self depricating, "oh no!" or "this isn't good." will slip out. Sometimes when I'm really getting smashed I'll ask coach why he's doing this to me, I thought we were friends.. Of course, I know why he does it. Hell, I'm paying good money for it. 😂🤣😂
I don't think the video was trying to change you talking. He said he likes to talk himself! He would agree with you!! 😄
I'm 35 and you and I share the same mindset. I'm in it for the long run and I'm there to enjoy it. For others it might be talking ego talk or trash talk or they take it too serious. I don't do that I just like to roll and have fun and smile and have a laugh.
So I m a two months white belt , can I compliment higher belt during and after rolls ? I genuinely was amazed at their moves .. not sure if I embarrassed them.
I had a weird scenario in competition a few months back was there all day for like 12 hours and was in the absolutes and just didn’t care anymore and this one guy tries to leglock me and while he went for it I said “dude that’s not gonna work on me” and he actually stopped going for it I was just bluffing and messing around cuz of how long I’ve been there for who’d have thunk
I was stuck in a straight ankle lock in the finals of a tournament once, at a time where I didn't know jack about leg locks. The dude is reefing on it as hard as he can while I'm laying there like a dead fish with my hand hovering over his leg in case I need to tap. I'm not sure what he was doing wrong but I really just wasn't feeling it. We made eye contact at one point and I just kind of shrugged at him and said "I don't know man". We were stuck like that for like 2 minutes! 😂
Professor Peculiar thats some poker skills put in to the right place there hahaha
Did you win ?
johnhagebeuk8 ya won on points 🙃🥋
That's funny I've been in pretty deep chokes and just told the person that they didn't have it and they let go
Warmed up with pummels today. I whispered “come here and hug me” into my boys ear. He giggled. I live for those moments
This one guy I was crushing asked me how school was going, and then triangled me as I was distracted responding.
Seems like something I would do.😂
LOL
nice profile pic by the way, RIP Miura
Calculated attacks 🤣
Damn, he smart.
Is that acceptable ? Like, to distract someone by talking ? Even talking nonsense ?
I’ve had incidents where I’m so close to submitting an upper belt, they’ll admit defeat before I can tap them, but they’ll go back and tell me what I was doing wrong, and I find that really helpful 🤙🏽
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If I get caught in a sub by a lower belt, the only time I start to coach is if I feel like they are starting to give up on the submission. I'll usually say something like "Dont give up!" and "Keep working it!". I do this for 2 reasons, 1: if I'm defending it, I dont want them to stop believing in the sub. 2: I like to work my escapes and see if during live rolling if I can get out of a almost or sunk in sub.
Love the content bro! Keep it up!
As said lower belt I cant tell you its almost never that I stopped believing in the sub and almost always that I gassed out because my csrdio is trash
Yeah, other dudes do that in the gym do that for me. Even more experienced white belts. I think it's awesome
I Literally have full conversations when I roll. It’s don’t bother me
lifewithken lol
Same hereb
This shit is so distracting. But I only noticed it when I'm on the sidelines while everyone else is rolling. Sitting on the side and hearing two guys have a full conversation is so annoying. Lol.
@@JiujitsuFIIT i'm actually used to it because when practicing Ne-waza on Judo, our Sensei and some other students that aren't rolling will be shouting things like "keep your back straight, I SAID KEEP YOU BACK STRAIGHT!" haha.
I enjoy talking in the middle of rolling. I only get a few hours of the week with these guys, and I give a crap about them, and I sure as heck am not going to be talking when our teacher is, so rolling is the best time to talk. But usually when I talk, I am asking my partner how work was while he is sinking in an arm bar.
I'm not big on talking but, laughs are ESSENTIAL. haha
If I heelhook withebelts i scream alhamdulillah
I love you
Anderson Silva, you absolutely SUCK and than put a Handgranate into there Gym Bag 💼;)
First off why are you heel hooking white belts?xD da fuq dude.
I have higher belts try to hit me with leg locks. My response is usually “I have no idea what you are going for so don’t crank it you got me” lol I usually get a puzzled look. Then the higher belts I train with regularly look over laughing saying he is a white belt lol Then they go roll with that guy and leg lock him 😂 Most guys are pretty cool about it though. Only been training 8 months so lots to learn. Probably doesn’t help that 3 of those months I focused on mma instead. Signed up for a tournament coming up so focusing on just bjj for now. Then back to mma. It’s more fun when someone is in your guard and you can hammer fist them in the head while trapping one of their arms and cutting the angle for arm lock. Bjj is easy compared to mma training lol Still fun though I enjoy it.
Lmao golden
The only thing I say during rolling usually is something along the lines of "you good, you ok?" Being new and usually rolling with other new guys, I'm always kind of concerned about not hurting someone.
I'm glad you mentioned the story about the blue belt that was trying to talk you through what you should do. I go through that same problem in my gym. there's a blue belt that as soon as I get the best of them he gives up and acts like he gave it to me.. soooo frustrating
I am SO that guy, but not in like a mean-spirited way. I just like compliment people on a move I didn't see coming, mention something that happened last roll, whatever. Even when I'm going pretty hard, I just don't feel any mental or emotional pressure, so as long as I'm not out of breath, I'm just like hanging out with a friend while fighting them. It's odd because it's the opposite when I used to do striking stuff. I was completely silent start to finish.
People hate me.
Find people that are there to have fun, i'm not stopping the comments its half the fun.
Same here. And I love when my training partners talk during the roll. It makes it more fun
I laugh during mine 😂
I was recently explaining interactions to a non-BJJka and said “when you practice, the way we catch up is not by talking/going for brunch, etc. When I see someone I haven’t in a while, we roll to see how much we’ve progressed and kinda let our bodies speak (sounds weird but 🤷🏻♀️)”. I guess what I’m trying to say here is.... “I agree”. Leave it to a girl to say more than needed 🤦🏻♀️😅.
I think that’s a good way to put it.
Such a good way to put it.
Perfect
For me its just about having fun with talking or without talking. Progression will come with it
That's righteous
In wrestling/judo we rarely chat in sparring/randori, even groundwork, we always going 100%. But I think relaxed sparring with some chat could actually give technique benefits, as there is freedom to exposure versus just to win.
Two stripe blue belt here.. I absolutely love talking during rolling.. but always playful, respectful banter.. "I didn't know you knew how to do that" is my favorite lol
Not many people are friendly at my gym. I am moving to a new gym soon.
Good idea
maybe move to a less friendly gym so that you appreciate your current gym more?
Best decision you ever made... bjj is about having fun and enjoying every moment and most importantly, trust!
@@mohamedwattad4325 agreed. I just wish there was a Kama Jiu-Jitsu place near me. They would treat me well for sure.
@@KarmaLodroSenge find the vegan stoner bjj gym near you bro, simple as that lol
I'll find myself in a dominant position, and I'll say, "well this sucks, I didn't think I would've gotten this far."
Omg I roll with this big guy at my gym sometimes, and finally managed to get him on his back a few days ago, and froze up cause I was so surprised I actually got him
Right! I did this the other day and I was like ok what do I do? I’m always trying to just survive.
Oss brother. Thank you for responding to my question! Legend.
You're welcome brother! Happy to do so.
Wows 🤣
I usually laugh and say “nice!” When somebody sweeps me or counters me, or call myself dumb when I do something dumb lol
I used to train with a brown belt that was maybe a blue belt at best. He talked me through every submission I ever put him through. Finally I got to the point where I would crank the submission in the middle of him talking. People pulled me aside and told me that he was doing it to everyone including the higher belts. The professor had to tell him to quit teaching everyone mid roll. One time he freaked out during a sweep I hit him with, screamed it was illegal, went to the workout section of the school and started throwing the dumbbell weights around... Not kidding. Also, I'm not bragging... I'm nothing special. I get smoked all the time. He just wasn't a real brown belt and was insecure about it.
Whoever gave him that brown belt did him a disservice! No one wins.
Unsolicited advice, especially from a lower belt, is pretty challenging. The client manager in me understands that all information is good, and the 37-year-old in me understands that it doesn't diminish my ability. But it can be a struggle for a 155lbs blue belt to take “advice” from a 280lbs white belt - ya, you definitely pinned me and that shoulder lock was tight. But about the differences in our size and strength...
Perfect 👌 answer + I liked, “it’s not supposed to [pop]”
Being a 4 stripe white belt, I sometimes say something like "that didn't work as planned " to the graduated coleagues I have more intimacy and I sometimes compliment new white belt for passing my guard, taking me down, etc.
But it's all about not dying talk as a way to prevent losing or to bully people.
Great video. Actually very refreshing to hear. At my gym we tend to talk, and I have always preferred some sort of talking during a roll. Usually if somebody submits me kind of saying that was awesome. That’s about the extent of it though. And yeah, never talk Someone threw moves when they’re beating you. It’s an obvious face saving thing. For my part, whenever I am rolling with somebody it is out of fellowship so a secret part of me is rooting for them, and the other part of me that has that fellowship with them also knows that they deserve nothing less than my best. So if they got a submission on me then not only did they earn it but it was awesome and I am proud of them for it. But I’m gonna try my best too
That happened to me when I was a white belt going against a purple belt, got an uchi mata on him and afterwards that he starts “helping me out” on how to do stuff from side control. Thought he was being nice until afterwards he said “you know I went easy on you” lol that’s when I knew I had actually got him and he hasn’t let me the first couple minutes
You were a white belt against a purple belt. He was going easy on you. I had a similar thing when I first started. I always had more success against blue belts and couldn't figure out why......
oh no, I know he wasn’t, after the throw, I noticed him start to go easy at that point, almost exactly how chewy said and he started to tell me how to do stuff, I’m blue now almost purple, I know what “going easy” is, he wasn’t, I am 100% certain.
Senseless Nonsense ok buddy
The gym sucks then if a purple is having provlems by a white belt
@@hattorihaso2579 depends, he could've come from a judo background, so is better than the purple belt on the feet.
As a newbie I enjoy when people talk to me while rolling specifically telling me when I do something right or wrong or giving me encouragement
"Oh no my Queen, checkmate in 1"
As a white belt I'm just now starting to not be so spaz-tastic and it's great to talk and laugh in a roll especially with higher belts. I feel like it shows them in real time that you are working. I mostly grunt with higher belts though and even that is a language on the mats 😂😂
I like complimenting my partners when they execute a good move. I think it’s great to motivate each other with positive reinforcement.
Thanks for letting these sucker know when to talk I’m white belt with more mat time then some blue belts ( took class ten years ago 4striped w/b got injured a few times acl broken toe on the mats ) hate when ppl coach me thru submission
Ten year white belt?
Three injuries time to recover and time work change in my program for few years change my life around opened up a business now I’m back it 6 months strong
Mat time means very little if you don't have the skill to back it up.. let's say in those 10 years your injuries and other events in life took you out of BJJ for 5 years. You're saying in 5 years you still haven't got your blue?
Cool. You've got "more mat time than some blues". That doesn't mean much..
@@jacobday3826 💯
@@jacobday3826 No, mat time matters. It's what gives those skills.
It's hard to admit, but I just realized that I am the guy Chew is telling not to be: I always talk and try to "help" other people submit me (and I'm only white belt). Thanks for pointing it out, I will stop doing it from now on, I will take my loss and I will own it
Sometimes I setup a picnic for the two of us while rolling.
So glad I found this vid - brand-spankin' new BJJ student with only a month of classes so sparring for me is basically slow-mo chaos. Nervous talker and feel like I'm constantly apologizing and/or swearing. No one seems bothered by it, all of my rolling partners have been super nice. But none of them were talkers, so I'm always a little worried about it!
"as soon as I got into a dominant position he would relax and talk me through submitting him" I had to pause the video because I cringed so hard. You really encounter so many dbags on this journey
I always compliment a good sweep, take down, and/or guard pass. I feel like those are technical things that everyone should work on and are worth a compliment.
Sometimes I apologize for farting on people while rolling, if it's loud
Haha "if it's loud". I usually go with *if it stinks*
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If it's informational talking, like learning from or teaching the person you're rolling with, then it's chill.
I always say goodbye before a good sweep ..cant help it
sounds douchey that
Yea that seems pretty douchey what happens when you sweep fails to a scramble
_gruff _ Yeah it’s kinda cringy if it fails but I do it when I roll with bffs and never with strangers
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In my gym the teachers always encourage us to talk while we're rolling, they say that if you can not hold a conversation comfortably then we are rolling too hard to learn the techniques well and we should calm down a bit.They gave us the advice that if your opponent is going too hard on you (not just submitting you, but rather being a bit reckless) you could just throw a question at him , to force him to slow down a and answer it.
My instructor makes small talk with us while we're rolling with each other. During my third class ever I was getting smashed and the instructor asked me from across the room, "hey Billy, do you know the name of that meteor shower tonight?"... I thought he was testing me to see if I could be distracted, so I ignored him. He kept asking me, "hey Billy... You ignoring me?"
"I'm fighting for my life here!"
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Other times help put us in a mock match with real stakes, and then he cracks jokes the whole time and we're trying to fight each other laughing.
Personally, talking never crosses my mind while I’m rolling
I make jokes the entire time. I like to have fun when people go lifeless. Or when I go lifeless...
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When people start to execute something that is obviously gonna work.... I always say "shit's not gonna work on me, son."
And hes out....
I’m new and rolled with an acquaintance. I actually enjoyed having a convo with him while still focusing on rolling. Also, I liked him giving me feedback while rolling for learning purposes, such as, that was a good move or you could have done an arm bar. Thanks for the video.
Me and my friend once debated star wars while rolling
I've had people that were higher belts, talk me through what to do/how to do it.
I will also give out compliments to other guys. Great escape, that was fast, good thinking, and so on.
ah, the old 'green belt was an intermediary between white and blue' story....#memories
Definitely tell people they hit a nice move on you at other gyms. Sometimes they even stop mid roll to teach you what they did and help you improve.
Once had a guy tell me mid roll “I guess I’ll have to live vicariously through my jiu jitsu since you won’t go out with me” 😑 creepy level 1000
Yea I wouldn't roll with him again.
That's when you tell the instructor what happened and that youre never rolling with them again
Wow. Creeptastic.
Yuck.
@@craigcrissman4651 yeah, luckily the high ranks running the group were really experienced and noticed almost immediately that he was being creepy and aggressive - they kept him very far away from me the rest of the time I was there. He kept trying to come back and make me roll with him (outranked me a lot, since I was a white belt and he was a brown belt) - but anytime he came within 6 feet of me one of the higher ranked guys would grab him and rip him up for a round.
I walk the person in the dominant position through stuff quite frequently.... that being said I am a coach for the little kids....
Hate those kind of people, come across many of them 😂
I'm with you, only time I talk trash is if I'm close with the guy, but it's never disrespectful.
Haha "Your guard's weak bro"
My best one liner while rolling is a seinfeld reference "NO SWEEP FOR YOU!"
I either am coaching lower belts on what they're doing wrong or trash talking people my level
Maybe you haven't experienced this before, but I've had a different kind of talking issue when visiting some other gym. I knew a teenager that would try to start such deep conversations it took you away from rolling. Wether he was winning or losing he was constantly saying stuff to try to get you sucked into a conversation. A lot of white belts that rolled with him would get so distracted they were barely even rolling. I just wouldn't say anything when I rolled with him. He was also a white belt, he wasnt even bad he put up a pretty good fight most of the time for how new he was but idk man.
Me and my oppenent at my tournament talked the whole. Match nice guy too 😂 he got me with a nice knee bar
I had this exact situation where I as a whitebelt rolled with a senior TKD practicioner who shared mats with us and wanted to try BJJ. He put up real resistance up until the point where it was obvious he would not be able to defend my submission, and just as you said in the video he went limp and started talking to me as if he was my coach and graciously "let" me put him in a rear naked to "practice my technique".
Thank god im not a whit belt anymore so higher belts dont walk me through beating them. That used to kill the whole thing for me. Give me tips after the roll if you want, thats what ill do. Ill say like, " remind me adter the roll to show you x"
My second roll ever was with this one blue belt guy in the gym. he kept saying mad weird shit in my ear and he got to my back but I was defending the choke so he gave me a nuggy. I really didnt know or talk to this guy like that but I had about 3 months of wrestling experience so I knew basic concepts. I got a reversal and got to his back and gave him a nuggy and proceeded to constantly pressure him but he just curled up into a ball and didnt even try to get back on top.
What's a nuggy?
@@Ezio9791 Its when somebody aggressively rubs their knuckles on the top of your head. The stereotypical bully move lol. I'm sure he was doing it in a joking manner but it still felt good letting him know that I could "bully" him right back.
@@Yerr_ItsNick Oh yeah that's a dick move because it can really hurt if they do it hard but it's still like "hahaha i'm just messing with you man xDDD"
We talk more after the fact. Like if I slipped a triangle or armbar, we'll wait for the round to finish and then critique each other positively. Never has it been a negative experience for me.
But it's worth noting too, I'm a lower belt and upper belts will help me finish all the time. "Hey adjust this" or "dont forget your hook" or whatever. It never comes across to me as them talking themselves out of a loss, more that they're helping me get better at my game. There's hardly a better learning opportunity than live rolling and finding yourself in an organic position to say "hey, this is where you need to get that hook in". Maybe it's just a rapport thing? But I'd have never thought I was doing someone a disservice helping them finish a choke so thank you for sharing that. I'll be mindful in the future if I find myself doing that and someone is getting upset.
I like to whisper “shhh, don’t struggle.”
“Shhh, don’t struggle, just snuggle”
I like to whisper "no more tears only dreams" as I'm finishing a triangle
Chewy can roll with and tap everybody he has really good stories of tapping out bigger guys and higher ranks all the time!! He is unbelievable
Lol man up and don’t talk me through submitting you 😂🤣
Aka, I wasn't really trying. Really man?
Me talking during rolling consists of things like: a little shit talking, complementing, asking if each other is ok, warning if we're getting too close to the walls & thanking each other
I was rolling with a pretty new guy at my gym, and I could feel him panicking when I passed his guard into Mount, and he did not try to advance his position, instead he would try to squeeze the life out of me... and then I chose to talk him through how to reverse it and submit me.
Would you say I talked myself out of a loss?
I am one of the biggest guys in my school and I'm a blue belt, so I normally go a little lighter on the white belts. I have a decent amount of knowledge to know when I'm in trouble or something like that so I defend well. There will be times where I will kind of give them a favorable position to see what they will do and many times they don't take it and usually end up with a bunch of nothing on their end. Now I know how to escape or sweep, but I normally coach them through an option they didn't realize was there. It won't be some amazing rarely seen before technique. It's just that them being inexperienced didn't realize the capabilities from that position. So after I show them I say "Ok, lets go back to that position, but do it for real this time." At that point I'm in a bit more trouble now, but I am decent at defending. I see the smile on their face and that makes me happy because they walked away with something. A few times I got to see the fruits of their labor when they tried the same thing on someone else and I'm in the corner with the Pai Mei beard stroke. Should I stop? Or should I go through the roll and maybe take the time after to show them something?
Best thing to say to an opponent after a roll is ‘thank you for rolling with me’.. done and move on
Mr Big Shot 978 best thing you can do in life is have automated responses for every situation and live like an NPC
I always shake the hand of the person I just rolled with and thank them. I love the etiquette of Jiu-Jitsu
Amaan Hussain I always wipe my butt and stare at my poop until it goes all the way down the toilet in case I have to flush again.
If i went to a gym that discouraged talking doing rolling id find another one.
As Chewy said, its part of the comradery and enjoyment of the experience.
"Talking" as in , nice job or i messed up or maybe taking the time to explain a defense or submission. Not breaking down the minutes of your day to your rolling partner.
Wtf I'm so high I thought he was talking about rolling weed lmaoo
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Yes it is cool when amongst friends or just keeping it I. A culturally playful school.But things like “whoops” or “oh oh” I don’t like. I’ll take that as a tap. Or like you said they start coaching as you turn the tide. Great post as always.
The worst is when people say “Man you’re strong!”.
Just say thank you and smile.
I like when someone say's that. I like being strong. :)
Agreed, I hate this one. But I love to taunt and be taunted.
"How much do you weigh bro?"
If you wanna talk go for it. We're all here to learn and evolve our craft. How we gunna do that if we don't communicate a lil at least.
I was rolling with a guy 60-80 pounds heavier than me, and I took his back. Then he proceeded to actually tickle my feet. I was so in shock! Over the 7 years of training I had never been tickled while sparring lol!
Really? Tickle Guard is real 😂🤣😂🤣
@@colormesarge I know right. I was shocked! It has yet to happen again. Been training 10 years now this year. Only one tickle guard player I have encountered lol. He needs to make a tickle guard series he will make millions.
Hilarious 😂😂
One of my two favorite partners and I alway have some sort of gay commentary. For example he was drilling a keylock to tap on me earlier and i said "harder daddy" to which he replied "shut up and let me love you!"
I’m with you on the talking to people who you roll with regularly. I’ve just come from class and I was doing that with some of my partners. Example, a guy I roll with every class - at the start you ready for these heel hooks brother, and a new guy pressing me from the top driving his shoulder into my throat, really trying, it wasn’t in I had my shoulder guarding it. I feel him let off and I tell him. If it makes you feel better that wasn’t in dude. His reply, thanks that does make me feel better.
There’s two guys who do this at my gym, I could never put it into words until I watched this video. They’re both 1 stripe white belts and they will walk even blue belts and purple belts through moves while rolling. I never knew why but it always rubbed me the wrong way.
I don't do bjj but from wrestling if it's competitive there's no talking, if it's friendly there's shit talking, and if it's a novice against someone good you give them encouragement for what they did right. The only time you give them advice is when they're obviously stuck and don't have an answer to something. I think conducting yourself in that way is good for everyone. No distractions when you're pushing yourself, learning to relax and joke around, and helping a novice who is stuck... Also for me, I think I became a better wrestler when I started teaching technique to the younger guys, and we were all the unskilled once. It's good hearing feedback. Obviously using it as a copout is bullshit
Edit: just subscribed to you, came across this channel a few times and love your input on things
I came from a wrestling background and I preface with that bc most guys at my gym give me credit for the strength that I have in between positions and my positional defense. However even though I can pretty much control position and scramble out of many weak positions I do struggle with finding submissions. one day I was rolling with one of the vets (purple belt) and essentially he put himself in a dominant position I successfully scrambled and found myself on top mount. In the exchange my strength was just too much for his defense but after about 30 seconds of no progress and me just grabbing his wrists and trying to find something he taught me an arm bar which is now one of my fav submissions and one of my most successful. different circumstances but very similar situations
I also talk alot because of my depression its something i cant help unfortunatly but it helps me get some pressure out of my head. Iam very much ashamed about it but i told the student what my problems were and they say dont mind brother if its to much we will tell you right. That helped me so much. But during rolling i like to talk like wow I didn’t see that comming or damn your strong bro. And i like it and so do my trainingpartners to evaluate on the techniques and how to get better. I allways say honestly if a choke isn’t tight and what they can do about that because tight fucking chokes is sort of becomming my middle name. But iam am an idiot when doing a kimura so my trainingpartner helps me how to do that and i really appreciate it.
One of my coaches is a young guy in his early 20s and he’s a purple belt. He grunts like he’s struggling, which is hilarious as hell as hell cuz I know he can beat me up in a heart beat if he wants. I’m a 36 yr old white belt so it sort of breaks the ice for me. I love my gym.