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Hey Luke, I had hopes before the delay. Look if you are hurting for another player for content, I’d be willing to let you gift me a copy of this “Game” I have a ps5 and series X. I’m a Canadian & a content creator as well. My offer is on the table. Great luck bro.
BLUE , this game was the only thing I was waiting for for a ps5 I was actually saving up for it for years *then the zombie virus happened* I held out hope for it then they switched it to LIVE and I knew it was over
Bro the taunts for deadshot are so weird to me. Like what the hell do Graffiti on a Wall or Basketball have anything to do with deadshot? It feels racist almost
It IS racist, they are playing into tropes and the worst part is they changed him to match Will Smith's Deadshot. He is supposed to be a white dude but apparently that one was a fake... yeah.
I honestly don't mind a new desdshot that much, if only because the idea of a hero or a villain being a title that is taken by different people from time to time does happen in auperhero media. I just felt it weird that the NEW Deadshot is somehow supposed to be the original and the old deadshot was some sort of impostor. It goes against established lore of the Arkham trilogy. Also the taunts ARE racist. Deadshot is a master shooter, superhuman in skill, and they give him generic black guy stereotype taunts? Really?
@@lxsaglr8704So cool that Arkham Knight was so repetitive? How many side missions you've done to get same missions when Penguin, Deathstroke and TwoFace appear? How many times you did same Firefly chase?
@@SeriousDragonifywhat answer? You didn’t even ask a question lol. Yes knight was repetitive , personally I’m fine with it cause it was at the very least an enjoyable game. Squad was incredibly boring and had clunky gameplay that wasn’t satisfying. I think it’s dumb to compare knight to squad since they’re different but squad should’ve done a better job at being a good and enjoyable game
In the US, automobile makers are subject to "The Lemon Law", which means car dealers cannot legally sell a non-functioning car without telling the consumer. Video game companies need to held to a similar legal standard, especially after hearing that some players payed $100 dollars for a broken game.
Agree with the sediment, but I gotta disagree with the idea it would be for games like Suicide Squad. The game is still functional, and it is fun at times. Just one that is repetitive as fuck. No that would imply for games like the day before or even Gollum.
They should at least be held to that standard until the game is fully finished since it’s a live service to prevent Rocksteady and WB from pulling the plug on it early.
If the servers cant even handle the 800 players that are still playing how tf was the game supposed to work if it would have held up the expectations and had like 80k-100k players???? What were they thinking???
It's the payday 3 situation all over again, those servers were also barely handling the minimum amount of players and now the game today only has like about 200-300 players left it's basically dead at this point.
Funny thing is SS on PS5 has 100k. I've seen pic from someone. Not sure if that's cross platform number but that's so low compared to Palwold, GTAO and HDivers 2.
they project player counts and rent store/compute/hosting/networking cost to said projection, if it deviates, they have outages or lose money. im not condoning it at all, just know, its due to penny-pinching greed
And then Helldivers 2. I can only imagine idiot WB CEOs watching Helldivers open up more & more servers with hundreds of thousands of players are screaming “this was supposed to be us” thinking their terrible SSktJL “should be” successful
All of the issues with Hollywood and games from the last decade stem from one major thing: not respecting the source material. The second is not respecting the customer.
More specifically, its : "Only caring about money, and the willingness to throw anything and everything under the bus in order to secure short term profits no matter what product/service you are selling"
It's truly baffling how often people will outright brag about not knowing or even straight up disliking the source material. Then, when their "improved" version inevitably flops it's all everybody else's fault. ... somehow
@@TwiggehTVI think this nails it way more. It’s greed. Disrespect for the source material is the least of this games problems. It seems like a fairly standard dc adaptation in terms of adapting the universe. This game and so many games are broken because they’re built on a foundation intended to extract as much money from the consumer as possible. They tried to go back on some of it but the bones are still there and they’re bad bones
"The game fell short of our expectations." They had expectations? The entire internet had been screaming for the last year that the game looked like hot garbage and no one wanted it.
Warner Bro executives, or any executives I guess, tend to be out of touch, but they focus on numbers. To make a hypothetical, let's say a million people were shouting negative things about this upcoming game, but the Arkham brand had 10 million players; the executives are going to assume that the 9 million who didn't say anything at all will buy the game, because executives assume brand loyalty.
A lot of people are very happy with it. And most of you didnt even played the game...so... yeah, lets do what some news outlets say because...yeah JUST BECAUSE! I DONT NEED MY OWN OPIONION!!!!!! ;)
You have to fight him 12 more times (already fought him once if you finished it) IF you can, because incursions, the endgame content, can be locked until they actually fix it.
@@nathanielbeven9052hey bro you replied to the wrong comment but partially to save lives and partially to protect people from spending thousands and thousands of dollars on what is essentially a scam. Biggest difference between games and cars when it comes to “lemons” is the average person needs to take out a loan to buy a car and if that car doesn’t work they’re less likely to get to work and make the money back they took the loan for.
@@Whiteshade true but the writing was on the wall they deserve to get ripped off honestly, especially if they dont patch the game, they paid super deluxe for what? A buggy unfinished mess.
Dude, the Rocksteady Batman games have *_never_* respected the source material. In BTAS, Harley didn't dress, talk, and act like a cheap [redacted by youtube], nor would The Joker ever impregnate her. He uses Harley and exploits her obsession with him to his advantage, but he'd never actually get with her. Plus, Joker would NEVER inject himself with the Bane serum, Batman most definitely wouldn't run people over with the Batmobile, and Ra's Al Ghul *_definitely_* wouldn't commit Self Crit. It's a bit silly to act like Rocksteady has only now betrayed the source material. You were just fine with it up until now.
@@carterb4 give them a break, it's all they can do is justify and deceive. There certainly aren't enough people buying/playing the pos to keep it running so they have to do SOMETHING with their time.
I mean this game is Warner bros. They wanted to make a game from a genre they didn’t understand. And then forced a dev team that ALSO doesn’t understand the is ALL WB fault. And the higher ups in Rocksteady really
i feel like even a James Gun suicide squad fps game wouldve worked so much better ratcatcher as a dishonoured type character, king shark as a melee monster, peacemaker and bloodsport being similar but having really different weapons and abilities could have had 2k players active
The crazy thing is last year WB games had the best selling game by making a single player game that the fans wanted. This year they have a massive failure by doing a live service game that fans did not want.
The funny thing is if harry potter did a live service game it would have done well because harry potter doesnt have alot of games and 2 they dont have to do much make it a working school simulator and have jobs and activites like gta rp and they would be raking in the dough
If Legacy would of been live service it would of been a fucking disaster, If their servers for SS broke at 1500 players tf would of happened with a player count like Legacy. Shit would of set WB HQ on fire. @@theoutsiderjess1869
15:10 correction, it's the devs that make that make the studio. It's like saying "bungie is a talented company because they made halo". The people that did make Halo are long gone, same with rocksteady.
The game launched 22 days ago and the playerbase on Steam already dropped to under 1k players. It's amazing, they actually flopped even harder than Marvel's Avengers.
Even sadder that Avengers gave them a perfect example of what not to do with more popular characters, and they went ahead with the idea anyways with a bunch of B-listers in the DC universe. The game failing was almost guaranteed.
I’m just so shocked a game no one wanted, forcing players to play as D List Villains that kill & piss on our childhood Heroes is a catastrophic failure….
@@KristyybugShe's overrated. Possibly the most overrated character of the last 10 years. At least when one considers that nothing she is in is financially successful
She is a B lister at best. A sidekick that can't carry anything herself. She is a gutted shell of the character she originally was when created for the Animated Series. Modern day Harley Quinn is a bad character.
I wouldn't be surprised if they decide to play it safe and either remaster/remake the Batman: Arkham games for current gen or make a new Batman: Arkham title just to recouperate losses
I have no mercy for them at all. We told them EXACTLY what we wanted in a superhero game, and they completely ignored it thinking they would have a cash cow copying the other failed live service games and now they are going lose millions. Should've made a single player game like Arkham or Spiderman like people wanted to begin with.
And then they (WB) still have the audacity to proclaim that they don't "have an obligation" to make a single-player Superman game even after they announced that the vast majority of their DC games and movies are going to be tied-in. They have access to some of the most iconic characters on Earth and they refuse to do anything of quality with them just because they're too stupid to see past the allure of short-term financial gain.
This video reminded me about that The Day Before review on Steam. "Well, the game is real. Kind of wish it wasn't". Luke goes "Well, the game didn't crash. Kind of wish it did".
@@MikeMarlowe-ym3zy Avengers while clunky with certain characters if it had better mission and more enemy varities other than robots it would have been a solid game. I enjoyed playing Avengers sometimes
Avengers at least had popular characters you wanted to play as, not a bunch of B-listers that no one cares about outside of maybe Harley. Even though Avengers was bad, you at least got your moments getting to smash things as Hulk, fly around as Iron Man, etc.
That's one thing I don't think people realize when a piece of media is genuinely bad. No one WANTS to be the sour grape and say "Hey this is boring" but lying by accepting this is only gonna encourage less and less from media companies, in this case a game studio, while also expecting us to pay more.
They're going to reveal a road map to try and recoup a playerbase, then cancel it prematurely because gamers just won't be assed. Just like Anthem and Avengers.
Rocksteady most definitely doesn't. My ex husband was one of the lead programmers, and the team was VERY excited over this. The plot, the mechanics, all of it. They were proud of it all.
Funny reminder that WB expects this game to have 13 SEASONS, each one with its own Brainiac. It will be no surprise when this game ends with a dumb cliffhanger as they pull the plug on the entire project, meaning anyone still invested in this current story will never have a resolution (unless WB decides to go cheap and speedrun 13 seasons in ONE).
Something no one talks about when talking about WB and Disney failures is the catastrophic status of marvel and DC comic books. They haven't turned a profit in probably a decade. Neither of them.
@@yomamasohot6411 I would agree with you in spirit, but I know there exists people that will simply look at one date being earlier than the other, and apply that bias nonetheless.
Its baffling that WB had each of their two flagship game studios develop a live service game, back to back, thinking they we're going to be successful. Talk about putting all your eggs in one basket.
I feel like the core issue with any game based on a licensed property is that they run into using the wrong order of operations, i.e.: make a good game first and plop in recognizable characters second. The Arkham games weren't great because they had Batman, they were a great game with Batman in it. There was an interview with a writer (I think?) of the second live action TMNT Michael Bay movie who literally said something to the effect of thinking people would like it simply because they put Bebop and Rocksteady into it. That's not how entertainment works, and more producers and companies need to understand that.
"Why are those helicopters flying if Green Lantern died" the right question would be: why did the ring stay in the earth, and why was it still with John? the ring only goes to the "worthy", and John became corrupted and would lose the ring. After the death of a Lantern, the ring goes away after another bearer, and I don't think King Shark would become a Green Lantern. maybe red could even be WHY IS THERE A GREEN RING ON THE EARTH? Why Rocksteady, why? Rocksteady lost our trust just like CDPR, but the difference is that they managed to turn things around by improving the entire game (literally) and managed to win us again, and as they have 2 franchises it's easier. But Rocksteady only had Batman, the only apology would be with a new Batman, but they killed Batman and Franchises
I think one of the things that could have helped was making the characters unique. King shark uses a gun, and captain boomerang uses a gun and I would have liked to do cool boomerang stuff.
Player numbers for Suicide Squad are lower than Helldivers right now. And I'm talking Helldivers ONE, which had it's already fairly low playerbase halfed due to the release of Helldivers 2.
Whereas Melkor spent his spirit in envy and hate, until at last he could make nothing save in mockery of the thought of others, and all their works he destroyed if he could. - JRR Tolkien, The Silmarillion
@@brightongoodwin1267some game studios have entire positions purely for marketing in particular manners which are deceptive, they hire people purely for deception.
You can admit you're happy it failed,it's ok.If it didn't fail we wouldn't get a new single player game for even longer than the usual 4 to 6 years it normally takes to make a game.
Something funny to point out: The official Batman Arkham TH-cam channel never made a single post about this game but still made ones for the Nintendo Switch trilogy.
If there was a leak in the future about CEOs trying to make the biggest flop possible then games like this, Avengers, etc would make sense and I would believe it. Because I don’t know how anybody was thinking this game was going to pop off at all. The same applies to movies, tv, just about all entertainment is filled with baffling decisions that would only make sense if they’re doing it on purpose for some reason.
I honestly believe even if the current dev team and story writing team at Rocksteady had made a single player game( god forbid with assistance from Sweet Baby Inc) that game wouldve been mediocre at best and forgotten on arrival at worst, as someone said, Blizzard is a dead skeleton run by ESG obsessed freaks and money hungry management so is Rockstead and a lot of triple A studios now.
I don't see why king shark is flying. "We want our players to fly" "so what villains can we use that can fly?" "No we're using the ones from the film!" "But non of them have the ability to fly!?!?" "Just do it!!!"
I’ve been wondering if there are any Rocksteady devs who knew this game was gonna be garbage, said something about it, and were shut down. There has to be SOME right? It’s a shame either way
Didn't the co-founders both leave rocksteady half way through SSKTJL and start a new game studio called Hundred Star Games. I think it's safe to say that rocksteady isn't the studio that we came to love during the arkham games
My ex played a significant role in the development of this game, and it's been extremely satisfying to watch it crash and burn. Is that petty of me? Yes. Is it a delicious hit of schadenfreude? Also yes.
As one of those 840 people playing, i had to stop last night because the update tanked performance. And can confirm the missions freezing and having to end game once mission is completed. I played a ton on ps5. Playing it on pc this week. And was enjoying it until this recent patch. Saw potential, but seems like they are going out of there way to end it just because it didn't meet there expectations. So those who stick around get screwed!
It's never a good sign when they quickly try to move on after saying it didn't meet expectations. It's already a low-key confirmation that they're having second thoughts of continuing to support it.
If the rumors are true and the League is indeed alive, you bet they'll spoil the shit out of that (especially Batman) any day now in hopes of turning public opinion around.
I was thinking why did they not just do the teen titans, Robin would be in there so you can have the bat family story still continue but they also have so many members to pick from for different ability heroes and either set it in metropolis or jump city or even San Francisco to change it up from Gotham
Rocksteady has taken a serious hit to their reputation considering that they didn’t use their own writers and instead used a company that does the writing for your games but don’t know much about the source material.
@@Speederzzz So uh, much like industry standardization, they teach you the way you "should" write? Then what is the difference? They directly influence the content then
The reason the patches are going to take so long and the DLC is going to dry up, is because all the Devs are busy punching up their resumes for the inevitable layoffs. I doubt the Rocksteady that existed before WB bought them is even there anymore.
@@yomamasohot6411Oh man that would be a riot of fun. They are desperate to try to get some money out of it. And they can get some money at the cost of their reputation by launching it on PS5.
I love that their comment is that it "fell short of their expectation" when everyone after finding out it was a live service looter shooter expected this, just exactly this to happen. Maybe not this bad this quickly, but pretty much this.
Man WB.. it's pretty obvious, even as someone who is not a Harry Potter fan, why one did better than the other. The Potter game: Respected the source material, sold a complete game, satisfying gameplay, met people's expectations in a satisfying way KTJL: Spat on the source material, sold a series of microtransactions and season passes, uber repetitive gameplay, failed to live up to a single expectation
When Arkham Knight has 6000+ players vs less than 900 on Steam, it shows that there truly is a divide composed of different factors: the quality of the live-service, the legacy behind the studio, the franchise, the constant online requirement, the replayability.
I will be shocked if this game makes it a year. The way WB likes to cut their losses, I could see the servers getting turned off, and this game being given some kind of "endless" sandbox mode for psychopaths to play offline.
I remember me and my mate couldn't finish the damn story for like 3 days in a row until they dropped the first patch because gettin sent to Earth 2 if either of us moved it'd full on soft lock the game. I wanted to enjoy this game, sometimes I got a genuine chuckle but not a whole lot of the time the game has such potential but it feels kinda squandered
Even if the game was better, it would still suck, because it screwed the story so badly that nothing could save it now. People hate this game for a good reason.
You know what's funny about this disaster of a HUD? They have so much garbage in it, but that health bar is so tiny, a Level 1 Sora would go "What the hell is that thing?"
What a time in the industry when a $30 live service game made by a small indie developer annihilates a $70+ multi million dollar companies AAA live service game. Liberty never looked so good.
bro how can people complain so much about the justice league dying like they win every comic, movie,game story the one time they lose y'all are complaining and crying. the game is called KILL THE JUSTICE LEAGUE what are you gonna expect?
I mean, people can still find it upsetting and say "I don't want this content, I don't want to play it." Which then makes it Rocksteady's responsibility for making a game that wasn't appealing to audiences So Rocksteady can make whatever game they want, but if they make a game that is all about killing beloved characters in disrespectful ways, then they can't really act shocked when nobody likes it
It would be a rather poetic conclusion to see Rocksteady completely die out due to them shooting themselves where the heart of their company used to be, all in the name of money and tolerance. But let's not forget, they have all that Sweet Baby money they can fall on to last 10 seasons with 5 players or less and still make it past their bottom line. That's why games suck nowadays. Companies no longer have to rely on actual gamers to fund their games. They just have to let one of these woke, government-funded "projects" to collaborate on writing or rewriting the script/storyline for them and it'll be, for lack of a better word, insured up to and including failsafe profit. No I'm not some conspiracy nut, go on one of their websites and it'll break it down far more specifically.
I can’t wait for the expose on working at WB. When both MK1 and Suicide Squad, games developed by good devs, turn out this wrong there is something bigger going on.
You keep saying Rock Steady is known for quality, but Arkham Knight was the very first game to ever have to be pulled from the store shelves the digital shelves
Why again are we still talking about it? TH-camrs complain its repetitive, yet make repetitive videos...people wanted a batman game. They didn't get it so they cried because their parents never taught them that the world doesn't revolve around you personally...but unfortunately on TH-cam now they get paid to make videos complaining because they didnt get what they want...and then obviously humans are a tribe species so naturally all the followers just regurgitate it back and play whatever the content creator tells them too.
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HelloFresh treat their employees like garbage there are a news stores about it
Sefton Hill and Jamie Walker actually left Rocksteady because they didn't want their names to associated with this game.
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Hey Luke, I had hopes before the delay. Look if you are hurting for another player for content, I’d be willing to let you gift me a copy of this “Game” I have a ps5 and series X.
I’m a Canadian & a content creator as well. My offer is on the table.
Great luck bro.
BLUE , this game was the only thing I was waiting for for a ps5 I was actually saving up for it for years *then the zombie virus happened* I held out hope for it then they switched it to LIVE and I knew it was over
Bro the taunts for deadshot are so weird to me. Like what the hell do Graffiti on a Wall or Basketball have anything to do with deadshot? It feels racist almost
It IS racist, they are playing into tropes and the worst part is they changed him to match Will Smith's Deadshot. He is supposed to be a white dude but apparently that one was a fake... yeah.
@@fish5645 reminds me of what they did in Spider-Man 2 with Miles except a bit worse
lookup when marvel tried to do a black thor, its literally the same
@@beauregardheeryeah, but they didn't change Miles' face
I honestly don't mind a new desdshot that much, if only because the idea of a hero or a villain being a title that is taken by different people from time to time does happen in auperhero media.
I just felt it weird that the NEW Deadshot is somehow supposed to be the original and the old deadshot was some sort of impostor. It goes against established lore of the Arkham trilogy.
Also the taunts ARE racist. Deadshot is a master shooter, superhuman in skill, and they give him generic black guy stereotype taunts? Really?
“I don’t know, do you wanna play Helldivers instead?” Based.
Hell yeah, let's spread democracy together.
Damn I wanna try that game so much, but the anticheat is sus af.
@@liesdamnlies3372 Anti Cheat ?
Real and true
@@hristoangelov9051democracy? I feel like hell divers is more about a 40k imperialism type more
RockSteady choosing this over a futuristic 'Batman Beyond' game has to be one of the worst decisions in video game history 🤦
Holy shit! I just thought of that. That would be so cool!
@@lxsaglr8704So cool that Arkham Knight was so repetitive?
How many side missions you've done to get same missions when Penguin, Deathstroke and TwoFace appear?
How many times you did same Firefly chase?
@@SeriousDragonifya decent amount of times yeah, still Arkham Knight looks like a masterpiece compared to Suicide Squad
@@bigyoshi5170 Stop comparing to other game.
SS is a looter shooter.
You're avoiding to give proper answer.
@@SeriousDragonifywhat answer? You didn’t even ask a question lol. Yes knight was repetitive , personally I’m fine with it cause it was at the very least an enjoyable game. Squad was incredibly boring and had clunky gameplay that wasn’t satisfying.
I think it’s dumb to compare knight to squad since they’re different but squad should’ve done a better job at being a good and enjoyable game
In the US, automobile makers are subject to "The Lemon Law", which means car dealers cannot legally sell a non-functioning car without telling the consumer. Video game companies need to held to a similar legal standard, especially after hearing that some players payed $100 dollars for a broken game.
Agree with the sediment, but I gotta disagree with the idea it would be for games like Suicide Squad. The game is still functional, and it is fun at times. Just one that is repetitive as fuck.
No that would imply for games like the day before or even Gollum.
They should at least be held to that standard until the game is fully finished since it’s a live service to prevent Rocksteady and WB from pulling the plug on it early.
@@Killgore-ip2yqThis game being sediment is correct.
There are two industries where you have absolutely no obligations to the customer. And both call their customers "Users".
How is the game functional if there are still reports of people unable to launch the game or unable to log into it?@@Killgore-ip2yq
If the servers cant even handle the 800 players that are still playing how tf was the game supposed to work if it would have held up the expectations and had like 80k-100k players???? What were they thinking???
It's the payday 3 situation all over again, those servers were also barely handling the minimum amount of players and now the game today only has like about 200-300 players left it's basically dead at this point.
They weren't, They don't have the capability to do so.
Funny thing is SS on PS5 has 100k.
I've seen pic from someone.
Not sure if that's cross platform number but that's so low compared to Palwold, GTAO and HDivers 2.
they project player counts and rent store/compute/hosting/networking cost to said projection, if it deviates, they have outages or lose money. im not condoning it at all, just know, its due to penny-pinching greed
@@SeriousDragonifywhere are they getting ps5 numbers? Because on pc it’s under 1k
Suicide Squad and Skulls and Bones releasing back to back was a fun ride
Good thing we got counters in Palworld and Helldivers 2.
Whomever spent money on those 2 games got burnt pretty badly. Last year was Redfall and Gollum. Oof
Could've been worst they could've bought The Day Before @@SuperKendoman
@@princemwamba5230 Forspoken and King Kong
And then Helldivers 2. I can only imagine idiot WB CEOs watching Helldivers open up more & more servers with hundreds of thousands of players are screaming “this was supposed to be us” thinking their terrible SSktJL “should be” successful
The Suicide Squad didn't just kill the Justice League, they also killed the whole Arkham universe.
killed rocksteady and WB games
nah i’m not letting this game kill the arkham games for me
I bet/hope they will just " haha guys, it's not cannon".
There so good. :-)
HA GOTTEM
All of the issues with Hollywood and games from the last decade stem from one major thing: not respecting the source material. The second is not respecting the customer.
More specifically, its : "Only caring about money, and the willingness to throw anything and everything under the bus in order to secure short term profits no matter what product/service you are selling"
and checking boxes.
It's truly baffling how often people will outright brag about not knowing or even straight up disliking the source material. Then, when their "improved" version inevitably flops it's all everybody else's fault. ... somehow
@@TwiggehTVI think this nails it way more. It’s greed. Disrespect for the source material is the least of this games problems. It seems like a fairly standard dc adaptation in terms of adapting the universe. This game and so many games are broken because they’re built on a foundation intended to extract as much money from the consumer as possible. They tried to go back on some of it but the bones are still there and they’re bad bones
well stated since the latter flows directly from the former
"The game fell short of our expectations."
They had expectations? The entire internet had been screaming for the last year that the game looked like hot garbage and no one wanted it.
They were expecting Hogwarts levels of cash. How they thought wrong.
Warner Bro executives, or any executives I guess, tend to be out of touch, but they focus on numbers. To make a hypothetical, let's say a million people were shouting negative things about this upcoming game, but the Arkham brand had 10 million players; the executives are going to assume that the 9 million who didn't say anything at all will buy the game, because executives assume brand loyalty.
A lot of people are very happy with it. And most of you didnt even played the game...so... yeah, lets do what some news outlets say because...yeah JUST BECAUSE! I DONT NEED MY OWN OPIONION!!!!!! ;)
@@ledpowz Not enough to make WB happy though hey?
@@ledpowz less than 1k players
There's nothing more deflating than when you reach the final boss and the game says "Now you gotta fight him 13 more times."
100% it won't be like you're fighting a ' new ' boss everytime. They'll just re-skin fights of previous bosses
Thank You Mario, But Our Princess is in Another Castle
You have to fight him 12 more times (already fought him once if you finished it) IF you can, because incursions, the endgame content, can be locked until they actually fix it.
And the worst part? They drip feed those other 12 Braniacs once per few months in seasons.
How anyone can justify that, is beyond me.
@@rhysjulian805sounds like fortnite
I think the biggest insult this whole time was shoehorning this into the Arkham series in the first place
The fact that they did that for sales is what hurt the game in the end
i dont disagree, but isnt the lemon law mainly done to save lives?
@@nathanielbeven9052hey bro you replied to the wrong comment but partially to save lives and partially to protect people from spending thousands and thousands of dollars on what is essentially a scam. Biggest difference between games and cars when it comes to “lemons” is the average person needs to take out a loan to buy a car and if that car doesn’t work they’re less likely to get to work and make the money back they took the loan for.
It doesn’t even make sense, wth does this have to do with Arkham?
@@nathanielbeven9052 Put the dope down and sleep it off, broseph.
With all these clowns playing, they won't even need to add the Joker in.
So true. XD
what do you expect them to do? they paid extra for deluxe, can't refund. Of course they are going to act like game is fun.
@@Whiteshade true but the writing was on the wall they deserve to get ripped off honestly, especially if they dont patch the game, they paid super deluxe for what? A buggy unfinished mess.
The game is fun what sucks is it a live service and all the hate around it@Whiteshade
Lol
Love seeing these massive companies that don’t care about the source material or the fans fail so intensely.
Dude, the Rocksteady Batman games have *_never_* respected the source material. In BTAS, Harley didn't dress, talk, and act like a cheap [redacted by youtube], nor would The Joker ever impregnate her. He uses Harley and exploits her obsession with him to his advantage, but he'd never actually get with her.
Plus, Joker would NEVER inject himself with the Bane serum, Batman most definitely wouldn't run people over with the Batmobile, and Ra's Al Ghul *_definitely_* wouldn't commit Self Crit.
It's a bit silly to act like Rocksteady has only now betrayed the source material. You were just fine with it up until now.
@@WobblesandBeanstop trying to justify a shit story
@@carterb4 give them a break, it's all they can do is justify and deceive. There certainly aren't enough people buying/playing the pos to keep it running so they have to do SOMETHING with their time.
You love that? Tf
@@WobblesandBeanyou dont have to say [redacted by youtube], you can just say harlot
Right now, Batman: Arkham Knight: 4,567 players now / 6,713 players 24-hour peak
Origins: 1,339 / 2,147
City: 1,835 / 2,801
Asylum: 1,828 / 3,057
SSKTJL: 473 / 946
"For life.'
"As long as your subscription is active."
Pick one Hello Fresh.
You know the game is really really bad when your friends won't play it even if you offer to gave them for free.
They better pay me to play this bruh
Literally couldnt even give it away
got the game streamed it to my friends once and 2 of them got it to play w me 🤷🏻♂️ it’s fun for us but i get it’s not everyone’s cup of tea
@@apollyon24789I would say it's not most people's cup of tea honestly, but at least someone is enjoying it lol!!!
I would try it for free. Don't know if I'll get bored though.
This game ain’t satisfied with just killing the justice league, it’s hungry for Warner bros and rocksteady
😅
I mean this game is Warner bros. They wanted to make a game from a genre they didn’t understand. And then forced a dev team that ALSO doesn’t understand the is ALL WB fault. And the higher ups in Rocksteady really
Warner bros kinda deserves it atp
i feel like even a James Gun suicide squad fps game wouldve worked so much better ratcatcher as a dishonoured type character, king shark as a melee monster, peacemaker and bloodsport being similar but having really different weapons and abilities could have had 2k players active
The crazy thing is last year WB games had the best selling game by making a single player game that the fans wanted. This year they have a massive failure by doing a live service game that fans did not want.
Guess they just didn't learn huh... 😅
The funny thing is if harry potter did a live service game it would have done well because harry potter doesnt have alot of games and 2 they dont have to do much make it a working school simulator and have jobs and activites like gta rp and they would be raking in the dough
It's as if they made a game for gamers, then proceeded to make a game primarily for investors.
If Legacy would of been live service it would of been a fucking disaster, If their servers for SS broke at 1500 players tf would of happened with a player count like Legacy. Shit would of set WB HQ on fire. @@theoutsiderjess1869
And they will continue to not learn.@@markadams5009
15:10 correction, it's the devs that make that make the studio. It's like saying "bungie is a talented company because they made halo". The people that did make Halo are long gone, same with rocksteady.
The game launched 22 days ago and the playerbase on Steam already dropped to under 1k players. It's amazing, they actually flopped even harder than Marvel's Avengers.
marvel and dc always trynna best eachother, even when it comes to making the worst performing games
Even sadder that Avengers gave them a perfect example of what not to do with more popular characters, and they went ahead with the idea anyways with a bunch of B-listers in the DC universe. The game failing was almost guaranteed.
...and movies@@I_Am_Wasabi_Man
Suicide Squad : Kill the Live Service model
Hope they succeed.
But then you wouldn’t have helldivers
@@DarthReaper a sacrifice I’d live with if we can get quality games back
now that's some Blue Lantern mantra if I ever heard any.
*slot machine*
I’m just so shocked a game no one wanted, forcing players to play as D List Villains that kill & piss on our childhood Heroes is a catastrophic failure….
First of all I never cared for the flash. Second Harley is HARDLY D list.
@@KristyybugShe's overrated. Possibly the most overrated character of the last 10 years.
At least when one considers that nothing she is in is financially successful
@@matthewmosier8439she's still not a d lister
@@matthewmosier8439 just because you think she is overrated still doesnt make her a dlister
She is a B lister at best. A sidekick that can't carry anything herself. She is a gutted shell of the character she originally was when created for the Animated Series. Modern day Harley Quinn is a bad character.
I wouldn't be surprised if they decide to play it safe and either remaster/remake the Batman: Arkham games for current gen or make a new Batman: Arkham title just to recouperate losses
That would be the smart thing to do, but I dont know if there are any smart people in charge left
I feel like they would somehow make the old games worse
But.. but the Arkham Collection.
The first two games already were remastered in Unreal 4
I won't mind a remaster for Origins, as that one is only available on 7th gen + Wii U.
I have no mercy for them at all. We told them EXACTLY what we wanted in a superhero game, and they completely ignored it thinking they would have a cash cow copying the other failed live service games and now they are going lose millions. Should've made a single player game like Arkham or Spiderman like people wanted to begin with.
And then they (WB) still have the audacity to proclaim that they don't "have an obligation" to make a single-player Superman game even after they announced that the vast majority of their DC games and movies are going to be tied-in.
They have access to some of the most iconic characters on Earth and they refuse to do anything of quality with them just because they're too stupid to see past the allure of short-term financial gain.
This video reminded me about that The Day Before review on Steam. "Well, the game is real. Kind of wish it wasn't".
Luke goes "Well, the game didn't crash. Kind of wish it did".
What do you expect from a clout chaser?
"New playable character"? It's just another character using the same guns
Yeah but you move differently. Duh
@@casual1118 and has a different voice
Worst part of this is that this will probably result in layoffs at WB, and none of the dumbass executives will lose a dime 🤬
then to make another shitty live service game to layoff more people. ah don't you love the modern media trend?
It’s crazy that they saw how avengers was and did fail but they still went ahead and basically made the same shit if not woese
Avengers was much better in actually kinda bummed I can’t play it now that it would be super cheap
@@MikeMarlowe-ym3zy Avengers while clunky with certain characters if it had better mission and more enemy varities other than robots it would have been a solid game. I enjoyed playing Avengers sometimes
Avengers at least had popular characters you wanted to play as, not a bunch of B-listers that no one cares about outside of maybe Harley. Even though Avengers was bad, you at least got your moments getting to smash things as Hulk, fly around as Iron Man, etc.
@@theoutsiderjess1869 the characters had unique playstyles, by default that blows SS out of the water
That's one thing I don't think people realize when a piece of media is genuinely bad.
No one WANTS to be the sour grape and say "Hey this is boring" but lying by accepting this is only gonna encourage less and less from media companies, in this case a game studio, while also expecting us to pay more.
I never minded being the sour grape.
When fishing in runescape has more players then your AAA game......
I think more people are playing Nintendo 64’s than this game.
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This is avengers all over again. If wolverine turns out the same way all hope is lost for superhero games.
its a good thing we have it on good authority that theres an actual game there, instead of whatever the fuck happened here
I agree. I actually wanna play Wolverine in the future
At least "Guardians of the Galaxy" was pretty fun, all things considered. Especially coming off the back of Avengers.
Wolverine's being developed by Imsomniac, so its probably going to be a banger
@@spectrumgamer21YT same I hope wolverine combos will crazy & the game will actually work
They're going to reveal a road map to try and recoup a playerbase, then cancel it prematurely because gamers just won't be assed. Just like Anthem and Avengers.
Haha history repeating itself. So true.
No one is going to learn anything from this. Warner Bros has no idea why this failed. And maybe even Rocksteady doesn’t either.
Rocksteady most definitely doesn't. My ex husband was one of the lead programmers, and the team was VERY excited over this. The plot, the mechanics, all of it. They were proud of it all.
@@WobblesandBean too bad it wont work as they wish to.
@@WobblesandBeanso far away from reality. common with many leaders at work
Well said
@@WobblesandBeanTell them I am really enjoying it
Funny reminder that WB expects this game to have 13 SEASONS, each one with its own Brainiac. It will be no surprise when this game ends with a dumb cliffhanger as they pull the plug on the entire project, meaning anyone still invested in this current story will never have a resolution (unless WB decides to go cheap and speedrun 13 seasons in ONE).
The fact that CP2077 has over 30k players after all the issues at launch and Kill The Justice League has less than 1,000 says a lot.
CP2077 had a massive free update that fixed everything, this game fixed the shop menu
Something no one talks about when talking about WB and Disney failures is the catastrophic status of marvel and DC comic books. They haven't turned a profit in probably a decade. Neither of them.
Because it has turned into a girl brand.
@@sparhawk1228 not even sane girls like it
"I don't know about this, do you want to just play Helldivers instead?"
Recency Bias aside, that's kind of telling.
Helldivers is pretty good
You can't say recency bias when the two games launched hardly a week apart.
@@yomamasohot6411 I would agree with you in spirit, but I know there exists people that will simply look at one date being earlier than the other, and apply that bias nonetheless.
Helldivers is always fun
@@eldrasillone game is better then the other
Its baffling that WB had each of their two flagship game studios develop a live service game, back to back, thinking they we're going to be successful. Talk about putting all your eggs in one basket.
I feel like the core issue with any game based on a licensed property is that they run into using the wrong order of operations, i.e.: make a good game first and plop in recognizable characters second. The Arkham games weren't great because they had Batman, they were a great game with Batman in it. There was an interview with a writer (I think?) of the second live action TMNT Michael Bay movie who literally said something to the effect of thinking people would like it simply because they put Bebop and Rocksteady into it. That's not how entertainment works, and more producers and companies need to understand that.
"Why are those helicopters flying if Green Lantern died"
the right question would be: why did the ring stay in the earth, and why was it still with John? the ring only goes to the "worthy", and John became corrupted and would lose the ring.
After the death of a Lantern, the ring goes away after another bearer, and I don't think King Shark would become a Green Lantern. maybe red could even be
WHY IS THERE A GREEN RING ON THE EARTH? Why Rocksteady, why?
Rocksteady lost our trust just like CDPR, but the difference is that they managed to turn things around by improving the entire game (literally) and managed to win us again, and as they have 2 franchises it's easier. But Rocksteady only had Batman, the only apology would be with a new Batman, but they killed Batman and Franchises
I think one of the things that could have helped was making the characters unique. King shark uses a gun, and captain boomerang uses a gun and I would have liked to do cool boomerang stuff.
Player numbers for Suicide Squad are lower than Helldivers right now. And I'm talking Helldivers ONE, which had it's already fairly low playerbase halfed due to the release of Helldivers 2.
Strange. I think Helldivers 1 is far more fun. Helldivers 2 is a mess.
This an example of:
Evil cannot create anything new, they can only corrupt and ruin what good forces have invented or made.
Whereas Melkor spent his spirit in envy and hate, until at last he could make nothing save in mockery of the thought of others, and all their works he destroyed if he could.
- JRR Tolkien, The Silmarillion
Y'all need to calm the fuck down with all this talk of "evil"
@PioneerPete0307 Its a fucking game developer???
@@Speederzzz And your logic being... game developers do no evil?
Check out some of the patents Activision has on manipulating consumer spending
@@brightongoodwin1267some game studios have entire positions purely for marketing in particular manners which are deceptive, they hire people purely for deception.
In my best Tod Howard voice “SixTEEN times the disappointment “
"14 times the brainiac"
Damn, millions down the drain which could have been spent on an Arkham sequel. These executives need to be axed ASAP
or a superman or JL game
You can admit you're happy it failed,it's ok.If it didn't fail we wouldn't get a new single player game for even longer than the usual 4 to 6 years it normally takes to make a game.
When the subreddit and twitter are turning against the company you know the game is really dying
The game wasn't alive to begin with
That has been happening for years. We tried to warn them, but they didn't listen.
When your gaming studio is filled with representation & not talented people who know how to make good functioning games
*"Sorry, but your Brainiac Its in another Ship."*
At least every level mario meet new enemies, worlds, blocks, challenges and power ups...
Something funny to point out: The official Batman Arkham TH-cam channel never made a single post about this game but still made ones for the Nintendo Switch trilogy.
If there was a leak in the future about CEOs trying to make the biggest flop possible then games like this, Avengers, etc would make sense and I would believe it. Because I don’t know how anybody was thinking this game was going to pop off at all.
The same applies to movies, tv, just about all entertainment is filled with baffling decisions that would only make sense if they’re doing it on purpose for some reason.
I don't think I'll ever buy a game at launch ever again because of this.
lol
Good thing
everyone learns at one point or another
I'm just surprised it took this long for you
That's a very smart financial decision.
Lmao do you even play it anymore?
I honestly believe even if the current dev team and story writing team at Rocksteady had made a single player game( god forbid with assistance from Sweet Baby Inc) that game wouldve been mediocre at best and forgotten on arrival at worst, as someone said, Blizzard is a dead skeleton run by ESG obsessed freaks and money hungry management so is Rockstead and a lot of triple A studios now.
They don't respect your time. They don't respect comic book enjoyers. They don't respect you.
I don't see why king shark is flying. "We want our players to fly" "so what villains can we use that can fly?" "No we're using the ones from the film!" "But non of them have the ability to fly!?!?" "Just do it!!!"
The fact that in one hour this video has more views than the all time player peak of the game is crazy
It's almost like there's more people who want to hate the game than try it
@@atiredcliche Yeah, cause they dont have to pay 120$ to watch an video
I’ve been wondering if there are any Rocksteady devs who knew this game was gonna be garbage, said something about it, and were shut down. There has to be SOME right? It’s a shame either way
Can we all agree that we need to go play Helldivers 2? If not for anything other than liberty? I mean I’m doing this for FREEDOM!
Malevolon creek will be free!
Didn't the co-founders both leave rocksteady half way through SSKTJL and start a new game studio called Hundred Star Games. I think it's safe to say that rocksteady isn't the studio that we came to love during the arkham games
No one expected them to actually kill the justice league
not even brainiac did
My ex played a significant role in the development of this game, and it's been extremely satisfying to watch it crash and burn. Is that petty of me? Yes. Is it a delicious hit of schadenfreude? Also yes.
Your level of Pettiness is Legendary lmao, I Love It lol
😂
As one of those 840 people playing, i had to stop last night because the update tanked performance. And can confirm the missions freezing and having to end game once mission is completed. I played a ton on ps5. Playing it on pc this week. And was enjoying it until this recent patch. Saw potential, but seems like they are going out of there way to end it just because it didn't meet there expectations. So those who stick around get screwed!
Guess it's time for some Helldivers
Game is woke trash an insulted the batman Arkham verse as well as Kevin Conroy in his last game appearance
Well I guess some people like garbage
Hope something better comes along that you can play dude
It's never a good sign when they quickly try to move on after saying it didn't meet expectations. It's already a low-key confirmation that they're having second thoughts of continuing to support it.
If the rumors are true and the League is indeed alive, you bet they'll spoil the shit out of that (especially Batman) any day now in hopes of turning public opinion around.
I was thinking why did they not just do the teen titans, Robin would be in there so you can have the bat family story still continue but they also have so many members to pick from for different ability heroes and either set it in metropolis or jump city or even San Francisco to change it up from Gotham
Rocksteady has taken a serious hit to their reputation considering that they didn’t use their own writers and instead used a company that does the writing for your games but don’t know much about the source material.
They did use their own writers........
@@willbaker6532 no I don't think rocksteady writers did the writing from what I've seen from other TH-cam videos, correct me if I'm wrong though.
Sweet Baby Inc.
Good pick Rocksteady, you played yourself. Get absolutely bamboozled
@@FlameOfRoyeca they aren't writers though? They are advisors and consultants, they won't write your stuff, just check it.
@@Speederzzz So uh, much like industry standardization, they teach you the way you "should" write? Then what is the difference? They directly influence the content then
The reason the patches are going to take so long and the DLC is going to dry up, is because all the Devs are busy punching up their resumes for the inevitable layoffs. I doubt the Rocksteady that existed before WB bought them is even there anymore.
I predicted it would be another Redfall and that's what it is. It's like I can see the future.
Bethesda has a chance to do the funniest thing ever by launching it on the PS5😂
@@yomamasohot6411Oh man that would be a riot of fun. They are desperate to try to get some money out of it. And they can get some money at the cost of their reputation by launching it on PS5.
I love that their comment is that it "fell short of their expectation" when everyone after finding out it was a live service looter shooter expected this, just exactly this to happen. Maybe not this bad this quickly, but pretty much this.
Man WB.. it's pretty obvious, even as someone who is not a Harry Potter fan, why one did better than the other.
The Potter game: Respected the source material, sold a complete game, satisfying gameplay, met people's expectations in a satisfying way
KTJL: Spat on the source material, sold a series of microtransactions and season passes, uber repetitive gameplay, failed to live up to a single expectation
I'd like to see another AAA dev company try another stunt like this if the message was not clear already.
Hey Luke. Dying light 2 is a game that improved alot post launch. You think you could cover it?
Sure, I’ll redownload it this weekend and give it another shot when I get a chance!
@@LukeStephensTVyou a real 1💯
@@LukeStephensTV they also added guns
@LukeStephensTV LETS GOOO I've been thinking about replaying Dyling Light 2 and hopefully your video will help me decide
I've been keeping an eye on Dying Light 2 and it seems like it's worth trying out now.
When Arkham Knight has 6000+ players vs less than 900 on Steam, it shows that there truly is a divide composed of different factors: the quality of the live-service, the legacy behind the studio, the franchise, the constant online requirement, the replayability.
*slot machines*
"Go play Helldivers" feels like a backhanded shot at both games, considering the "squatting" issue Helldivers has right now.
That issue was solved multiple days before your comment.
The twist is, the cutomers have been the suicide squad all along...
That's what happens when you do not stay loyal to your brand.
And they want 13 seasons of this 😂 This ain't making it past 2 years of service. No lessons learned from avengers
2 years? Honestly that's generous enough. I expect to hear it closing in a year tops.
There are more people playing Arkham Knights than Suicide Squad right now...
"suicide squad didn't just die... IT WAS MURDERED!!!"
- that one youtuber from years back -
That's literally what the title is called *SUICIDE* squad
It’s funny that he called it “this game” or “The Game” and not suicide squad because of the algorithm
Correction Rocksteady WAS an amazing developer, then they chased away all the people who made the arkham games so they could create this.
I will be shocked if this game makes it a year. The way WB likes to cut their losses, I could see the servers getting turned off, and this game being given some kind of "endless" sandbox mode for psychopaths to play offline.
Just as a side note, at this very moment the channel has _666_ videos.
🤘🏻
It's impressive to have so many server issues in a game with so few players.
As a big DC/ Marvel fan im so glad i didnt buy this woke bullsh1tt. Instead i got hell divers 2 and im loving it.
I remember me and my mate couldn't finish the damn story for like 3 days in a row until they dropped the first patch because gettin sent to Earth 2 if either of us moved it'd full on soft lock the game.
I wanted to enjoy this game, sometimes I got a genuine chuckle but not a whole lot of the time the game has such potential but it feels kinda squandered
Got flashbacks to BioWare with Anthem. Just because u are good a creating Singleplayer games doesn’t mean u can make good life service games
Well in Bioware's case, the problem was that they didn't start working on the essay until the night before it was due.
I have a confession to make. I liked the BatTank.
Can’t believe they passed on the Batman Beyond game for _this._
Even if the game was better, it would still suck, because it screwed the story so badly that nothing could save it now.
People hate this game for a good reason.
Suicide of RockSteady will not be buying a game from them again
You know what's funny about this disaster of a HUD? They have so much garbage in it, but that health bar is so tiny, a Level 1 Sora would go "What the hell is that thing?"
What a time in the industry when a $30 live service game made by a small indie developer annihilates a $70+ multi million dollar companies AAA live service game.
Liberty never looked so good.
bro how can people complain so much about the justice league dying like they win every comic, movie,game story the one time they lose y'all are complaining and crying. the game is called KILL THE JUSTICE LEAGUE what are you gonna expect?
I mean, people can still find it upsetting and say "I don't want this content, I don't want to play it." Which then makes it Rocksteady's responsibility for making a game that wasn't appealing to audiences
So Rocksteady can make whatever game they want, but if they make a game that is all about killing beloved characters in disrespectful ways, then they can't really act shocked when nobody likes it
It would be a rather poetic conclusion to see Rocksteady completely die out due to them shooting themselves where the heart of their company used to be, all in the name of money and tolerance. But let's not forget, they have all that Sweet Baby money they can fall on to last 10 seasons with 5 players or less and still make it past their bottom line. That's why games suck nowadays. Companies no longer have to rely on actual gamers to fund their games. They just have to let one of these woke, government-funded "projects" to collaborate on writing or rewriting the script/storyline for them and it'll be, for lack of a better word, insured up to and including failsafe profit. No I'm not some conspiracy nut, go on one of their websites and it'll break it down far more specifically.
I can’t wait for the expose on working at WB. When both MK1 and Suicide Squad, games developed by good devs, turn out this wrong there is something bigger going on.
You keep saying Rock Steady is known for quality, but Arkham Knight was the very first game to ever have to be pulled from the store shelves the digital shelves
Looks like this was supposed to be Crackdown 4 with the mechanics, movement, and UI elements
Why again are we still talking about it? TH-camrs complain its repetitive, yet make repetitive videos...people wanted a batman game. They didn't get it so they cried because their parents never taught them that the world doesn't revolve around you personally...but unfortunately on TH-cam now they get paid to make videos complaining because they didnt get what they want...and then obviously humans are a tribe species so naturally all the followers just regurgitate it back and play whatever the content creator tells them too.