How to Make a Cyclonic Dust Extractor/ Collector
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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 25 ก.ค. 2024
- In today's video I will be showing you how I made a Cyclonic Dust Extractor Collector, to transform MDF dust collection in my temporary workshop.
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0:00 Start
0:12 Intro
0:52 How it Works
1:43 Today's Toolkit
3:05 The Build
5:17 Supporting Base for Barrel
6:00 New Erbauer Plunge Saw
6:26 Has it Worked?
7:00 Barrel Collapsing?
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- Cyclonic Dust Extractor with accessories geni.us/4PVCycD (Amazon)
- 6m Contractor Grade Shop Vacuum Hose geni.us/J2Mo (Amazon)
- THIS HAS SINCE COLLAPSED Oipps 30 litre Open Top Barrel geni.us/YIhBy (Amazon)
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- Sikaflex EBT+ Adhesive Sealant Filler geni.us/6pP1 (Amazon)
- DeWalt tool roll geni.us/sMYTBAl (Amazon)
- Milwaukee 12V BDD Drill Driver geni.us/L3l5wfd (Amazon) (mine is the hammer version but I'm never likely to use the hammer action on it)
- Bosch Jigsaw geni.us/fSPgWZz (Amazon)
- Bayonet Jigsaw Blade 5 pack geni.us/iSWBdU (Amazon)
- Irwin Jack Expert Floorboard Saw geni.us/AKLws (Amazon)
- Silicone Applicator Gun geni.us/htOlZ (Amazon)
- Stanley Ratchet Screwdriver geni.us/peOOg (Amazon)
- Adjustable wrench geni.us/fDygBQj (Amazon)
- Duck Tape Original Silver geni.us/s4QPA (Amazon)
- Sharpie metallic pen geni.us/k1qjmVn (Amazon)
- Erbauer Plunge Saw bit.ly/37z6Rdq
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My titan constantly blocks so thought I'd give this a go. Got my bits from amazon, put it together and gave it a go. I was impressed by the suction through the cyclone until about 60 seconds in when my metal drum imploded.....
Thank you so much Charlie I have just built one of these. My workshop is so clean now. I can’t believe they are selling these for £200 online but cost £60 if you DIY. Keep up the good work and content.
Welcome to the cyclone club! One of the best purchases I ever made, never needed to buy another bag or filter and I have sucked up dirty water, gravel, soil, dust, sawdust, metal swarf covered in cutting oil, even plaster dust doesn't seem to make it through to the filter. You name it really and it all ends up in the bucket.
great to hear. I bet vaccuum cleaner manufacturers have know about this for ages and kept quiet to keep the bag and filter sales going
Cool, just what I needed for my spring wood projects, very useful, thanks.
Thanks for that Charlie. Yeah, i watch a guy in the States who does wood turning and he also had an issue with his barrel collapsing, similar one to yours and he made a wooden hoop for his which solved the problem.....take care and be safe and warm
Made one a couple of years ago even have the same shop vac its a great job saved a lot of hassle changing bags etc even use it to hover the car the long hose is a must.
Another fantastic build. Thanks Charlie keep up the good work.
I used a similar system and had the barrel collapsing issues (using a Miele vacuum). A good solution I found for it was using a metal bucket with a lid. A bit harder to cut a perfect circle on but with a bit of hot glue it worked perfectly.
Thanks Charlie, like you I bought that Titan in a pinch when I thought my superior vacuum had died. It has come so close to being launched out the window on many occasions, but I've been inspired to spare it and use it as a cyclone power source now. Cyclone seperator has long been on the 'round tuit' list...
You and me both!! The Titan has hardly been used since I bought it due to the poor quality hose and accessories, ill fitting dust bags and lack of a cord tidy. However since starting this series of videos I've realised it can never compete with Henry as a domestic vac because it was never designed to be a domestic vac. It's best used in a stationary position attached to a cyclone in the workshop and with the power synchro switch to plug in power tools it suddenly makes sense. 👍🏻
Thanks Charlie, was thinking along these lines, but now I’m convinced 👍
Love your videos! I have the same vacuum and the next size up barrel but I made a diy cyclone using PVC pipe. The pipe from the vacuum connects to the centre of the lid and the pipe to the tool connects to the side of the barrel at an angle just below horizontal (at a tangent to the circumference of the barrel) to force the cyclone effect. Works perfectly and I’ve been really impressed with it. I have had issues with the barrel trying to collapse but only if the pipe is blocked - I plan to put some braces inside the barrel to stop this.
A great example of improvise, adapt and overcome! Thanks for sharing another great vid 👍
Thanks Paul 👍🏻
I made one last year with the exact same barrel as yours and couldn't live without it
On my set up, I use a short 63mm hose between the extractor and barrel...this gives you a bit more suction at the business end. You could then use your long hose hooked up to a tube in your workshop ceiling as an overhead system. Much safer and more convenient than 6m of trailing hoses in a small space!
I do exactly the same thing with mine, and works really well.
Please post a Google Photos link to your set-up. Thank you!
amazing video. Going to give this a go
really enjoy your videos, well done
Just want to say how much I enjoy your youtube channel. Rock solid DIY advice and projects and tips about mistakes you have made so we try not to make them. Also budget tools as not all of us can afford the masses of power tools and kit that some have. Great advice on where to buy too. Keep up the good work. Really looking forward to the next installment of the wardrobe build.
Thanks Sean, I really appreciate you taking the time to pen that. I tell you, over the years, the comments from you kind people have been a huge motivation to me, to keep producing this content. The next wardrobe video is coming out this weekend - Saturday, all being well. I've got the final day's editing to do today.
It's amazing how efficient those cyclones are 👍
It was a total game changer and has breathed mate life into a vac I had previously thought was hopeless. Now I realise it was only ever designed as a static shop vac.
Tip...add a plastic bag inside your dust collection barrel with the cyclone, fit it over the top so it’s seals with the bracket that fits around the lid...that way you can simply lift out a bag and not have to make a mess cleaning the dust from the barrel...👍🏻 PS, I think your barrel is fine...I think it’s the slightly larger ones that have the problem with vacuum collapse...
Great idea
Good idea, but don't let it get too full, or you won't get it out.
Great video Charlie thanks for posting, I've being using the same idea with my Henry hoover for sometime. Henry has managed to collapse the barrel when the hose is blocked so I went for the wooden plywood hoop idea and even added a DIY pressure relief valve.
Good old Henry. Trust it to collapse the barrel where my Titan failed! I've just done a count and realised I have 4 Numatic vacuums. I think I need to see someone about this 🤣
This has been on my to-do list for a few years now Charlie and your video sparkled me enough to grab my tools and give it a go.
Thanks! Marc - Belgium
Ah that's fantastic news Marc. Have you built it yet? Well worth it!
@@CharlieDIYte Still looking for a sturdy barrel Charlie. You see them everywhere till the day you need one and than they are nowhere to be found. Bizar.
Great video. I've used this exact system for a year now, and I'm very impressed on how well it works and how much it captures, and how portable it is. The only thing I did differently is I reinforced the lid on the inside and outside with some cheap plastic chopping boards cut to fit and sealed up to prevent air leakage, to give the cyclone a bit more rigidity just in case, I knock it when working (which I'm bound to do!).
Thanks mate. Glad to hear you've had a similar experience. Wish I made it years ago 👍🏻
nice to see a brit do this sort of stuff for a change, good one.
Thanks Neil. Love my cyclone 👊
Wow how effective is that with the plunge saw!!!? That's really impressive. I bought exactly the same 3 parts as you for my cyclone and find it perfect. I'm going to make a little MDF cart for it along with the vac I think.
Good job! I am sure that you will use this cyclone a lot in future projects. In order to keep the barrel from imploding, you can use a pressure relief valve on the inside of barrel. It would work like a reverse pressure cooker (barrel's outside pressure is higher than the inside pressure) and when the inside pressure becomes very low, the valve opens and sucks air from outside to balance the pressure. You should choose a valve that does not open during normal operation and affect the performance( in fact it is just a matter of choosing the right spring).
Really useful vid thanks, been wanting to do this for ages.
Thanks Geoff. It's well worth doing.
Great video Charlie,ive got mine on a trolley
Charlie I've had all these same parts waiting to be assembled for far too long. Thanks for proving it all works. I have seen people make a caddy on wheels to keep the barrel and vacuum together, and prevent it tipping over. I can become a bit bulky though, unless you can fit it all under the bench.
Definitely worth putting together my friend! A few people have suggested minimising the tube length between vacuum and barrel to maximise suction and then have the final hose suspended from the ceiling, but the suction on mine is more than adequate. And I can keep the vacuum nicely out of the way.
oh i see ..nice one. great system..
Extremely helpful video, bought a metal bucket instead though 👌☑️
New Brit workshop,pressure relief valve...works a treat.
I bought a similar barrel but was warned in the advert this is not for High Volume Low Pressure vacuums. I did connect it to same just to try it and it buckled. So now I’ll buy a smaller vacuum Low Volume High Pressure to use with it. Be amazed, I’ve just subscribed!
Christian I'm very grateful for the subscription 🙏 Could you instead but a metal drum. From reading all the comments it seems this is the way forward to resolve the buckling issue.
These are fantastic as they stop you messing up your vacuum cleaner.
Good video really enjoyed it, seen a few builds on dust management but this is straight forward thinking and uncomplicated.
and dont apologise for the weather. Lol
Thanks Frank 👍🏻
Good video, thanks. Completely recommend it as a solution. I use a similar system but with a bigger barrel (suspect that’s where the problem lies). Had a massive problem with barrel collapse. Tried timber joists in the middle. Fail. Toyed with the idea of making a pressure release valve but I needed to crack on with a very dusty job. In the end I drilled 4x 4mm holes in the barrel lid, which reduced the pressure enough to seriously reduce the collapse without causing any collection problems - I think my shop vac is quite powerful. I drilled one then tested the collapse vs suction, adding one at a time until I got
to the right balance. However, my separate 100mm drum-type dust collector just died, so I now have a spare metal drum to use instead. I was just about to order a small metal barrel (there are companies knocking out cleaned fruit juice barrels in different sizes on ebay/amazon) so good timing.
Thanks mate. Yes metal barrels seem like the way to go. Presumably the metal barrel will be self earthing too unless you've got it on a rubberised or wooden floor (I'm told to earth mine because of static build up).
Just bought all the bits from your links to make this as I have a lot of sanding to do indoors and this, I hope will help a bit. Bought a different Cyclone part as I want it all tomorrow as I'm off work then and can make it. Appreciate the videos Charlie, keep them coming.
Cheers Keith. You'll love it! I've got to say I've used mine continuously since doing this video. No dust in the vacuum and I've emptied a three quarters full cyclone twice now.
@@CharlieDIYte Finished... Took me a lot longer than you I'm sure but the agro was getting the hoses to fit!!! Glue gun, a bit of improvisation and duck tape seemed to help.. Plus I added a hoop inside in the hope it does not collapse! ;-)... Thanks for the heads up on that yesterday... KT
I`ve used cardboard tubes from work. They are quite thick so hopefully they won`t fail and I`m just using a 80 watt extractor fan for a sandblaster.
I have the exact same vac and I am glad I am not the only one that thought it was designed by someone who hated DiYers!!
Hello mate, just popped in to drop a like and to say keep up the great work!
Thanks mate, I really appreciate that 👍🏻
Thanks Charlie.😀👍
Good to hear from you Norman 👍🏻
great vid Charlie and I've recently made one very similar myself.
The initial cost will soon be paid back by not having to purchase vacuum bags.
The cen tech hose system with adaptors are a great addition.
Thanks mate. Yes particularly as the bags fitted so badly on the Titan and someone was saying that you can't even get them now. 👍🏻
I'm going to attempt to make this at some point
Nice one Charlie
Thanks George 👍🏻
Had this in mind but following your video it is all made and works fantastically with my Henry vacuum.
It's a game changer Mark, isn't it! Out of interest how did you get the Henry vacuum tube to connect?
@@CharlieDIYte I can't believe how well it works.
I've used one of the adaptors in the machine and some tape but it is not ideal, it makes the bin unstable even with the cross beam on the bottom.
Next is to do this to make some adaptors the will fit perfectly - which I have done for some of my power tools.
th-cam.com/video/cjLQo3GuvDo/w-d-xo.html
When I get the time to go get the measurements and pipes.
@@CharlieDIYte actually I used the connector from one of these as well. www.amazon.co.uk/dp/B0166MGYBY/ref=cm_sw_r_cp_apa_fabc_1RDPYDXQB38Q7QS1GNAE?_encoding=UTF8&psc=1
Right, I ordered a barrel from the link above. It is NOT going to collapse unless I stand on it. 10/10
My thoughts exactly Paul. It's really sturdy isn't it. Loving the cyclone. The vac is still completely spotless inside after a week of cutting.
@@CharlieDIYte I gave the shop a good hoovering yesterday and its magic!
I am certainly going to look at this, I have a similar vacuum and can’t seem to find new bags for it..
This seems perfect as my wife isn’t overly happy with me using the house vacuum in the garage/workshop 😂
I'm using the 18l Titan wet&dry shopvac which is very similar and it managed to implode the exact same barrel, it didn't happen at 1st but one too many blockages and it went and once it had buckled once it kept doing it more frequently.
My 1st thought was maybe you got lucky with the barrel, the extra long hose from the vac to the barrel might well be compressing and acting as a sort of pressure flood plain (EDIT I have a very short hose from the vac to the cyclone and long to tools), who knows.
Either way I love my almost identical setup it has made a massive difference to my little workshop.
You might be right about the long hose. Yes I love it too particularly now that I can keep the Titan out of the way whilst I'm working.
Had one of the dust commanders for years now hooked up to an old vax vacuum and its on a large plastic bucket (with a snap on lid). 2 things for the bucket, the lid is worth stiffening up with a couple of layers of 12mm ply above and below the lid as I found with the pressure during use it caused a stress crack on the thin plastic. Also, the bucket was prone to collapse under hard suction so I had to make a plywood ring to sit inside the bucket to stop it collapsing and I'd say your barrel will be a victim of this too.
Otherwise, its a bloody brilliant addition to any home workshop and prolongs vacuum filters indefinitely I've found. I use mine for swarf, sawdust, muck, nearly anything and it works brilliant. even on super fine mdf or brick dust. The most difficult part was finding the little connectors or making them by bodging plumbing fittings to get everything connected together.
Been cyclonic for many many years now and have different ones sett up across my workshop. The only difference is, is that mine are all steel drums. Recently purchased the cen-tec hose, silver one and their connectors off Amazon. Think they are really good quality if a little pricey
Hi, I posted a query in Charlie's thread, can you offer any advice, I built almost exactly the same as Charlie's but dust just goes through and comes out of the vacuum air outlet port. Any ideas?
The only issues I have read about is that such things reduce suction power at the end of the hose. So starting with really powerful machine is important. If it’s effective enough at catching fine dust then potentially removing the filter from the vacuum completely would help make up the suction power drop.
Length of hose has an impact too on power. But hey don’t get caught up on the naysayers like me. It obviously seems to be working really well.
Oh I almost forgot. One trick I saw one other guy do was to put the vacuum outside the work space completely. This means that all harmful dust sucked up, gets removed rather then depending on HEPA filters and recycling the air.
Anyway, it is as usual a joy to see your take on things and the little insights too.
Stay safe and keep on doing your thing.
The barrel won't be sucked in by the vacuum but pushed in by the external air pressure once you apply auction and reduce the internal air pressure. A simple bucket inside a bucket will resolve this as there is no external air pressure being exerted on the inner bucket that is having the suction applied to it.
watched this video many times but only finally got to pull my finger out. Prices have been stupidly increasing since only over a year ago. I did spend a lot less on hose and will 3D print couplers as I need them.
Thanks for a great video.
Thanks Andre and his luck with the build 👍
Used almost exactly the same kit to make mine about 6months ago. The barrel did collapse but I made a round brace out of plywood with a jigsaw that fits inside and it solved the problem. That 5m pipe is a bit too long and it does get clogged on occasion which is a pain. I'm redoing my work bench and will probably upgrade it to a 50mm hose to increase airflow.
Thanks Lliam. Yes a couple of people have suggested that on the length. It's doing a good job for me at the moment but I see your point.
This is awesome!! Great video, well done Charlie, you are such a talented guy!! I think you should patent this and sell the design to a DIY manufacturer !!
Thanks. Loads of people doing this already, sadly. I'm just the messenger to you guys 😉
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Very useful and not that expensive.
Exactly. So glad I made it 👍🏻
I think you're right about the barrel not collapsing due to the relatively low power of your vac. I had a cheap wickes vac connected to exactly this set up without a single collapse. Upgraded to a festool vac and it happens regularly. Need to get round to strengthening the barrel...
A lot of people upgrade to a metal barrel to get round this problem 👍🏻
@@CharlieDIYte Yeah, that's probably the way forward. Have you heard of a good option for a barrel about half the size? I absolutely love the cyclone - has been a total game-changer for me - but still find it a bit bulky to take on an install with me...
I did the same thing and works really well, but my problem was finding the right connections and hoses to the different tools, like Thicknesser,Table saw, Router, and Plunge saw.. I had to bodge it a bit but the extract system was definitely worth making..
check out cen tech hose and adaptors
Excellent video. My cyclone didn't come with adaptors so off to look for some. I also added a hardboard gasket under the barrel lid to reduce some of the flexing. My vac is a small one at the moment so hopeful there will be no collapse.
Chris consider making some of your own adapters out of PVC pipe. You can see what to do in this link: th-cam.com/video/cjLQo3GuvDo/w-d-xo.html
@@C4sp3r123 Nice link. Thanks. Will give that a go
@@C4sp3r123 Hey, just to say I followed your advice, scored some pvc and went at it with the heat gun. Great results and super happy with the cyclone. 👍
Cheers Charlie - moving house shortly and wanted a dust solution for new workshop / garage gym.
Please can you do a video on the erbauer plunge saw - have also been looking at these this week 👍🏼👍🏼
Keep up the good work.
Ive had one for a while know and its been great ive never had a problem with any of my Erbauer tools
@@markhannan5167 I've got a few as well - great value for the DIY'Eer
+1 for the erbauer review. Interesting to hear about it’s good dust removal. Love to hear more about the tool.
With the cyclone dust collection fitted, you can remove the bag from your vacuum, this with improve the vacuum performance with the cyclone, and as you get almost no dust in the vacuum, the filter alone will be fine... ah, you did it....good...👍🏻
Hi Charlie great video thanks will be making one soon, I am just starting wood working in small work shop and dust is a big problem so this will help. Any chance you could make a air filtration video out of fans they have a few on TH-cam but they are all American so getting the Correct part in Uk is difficult.
Thanks mate. I'll add that to the list 👍🏻
Awesome, and exactly what I was wanting to make too!!!
Will this work for sanding plasterboard / filler too?
David, just a second. I've had problems with the drum imploding so hold fire on ordering this as you might need a metal drum instead. I've put a link to one in the video Description. Worth making though. It's been a complete game changer!! Yes, it will work for that too.
Great and very useful video, thanks. How are you finding the Erbauer track saw?
Thanks. Yes it's fine for what I use it for. Powerful and a deeper cut than a lot of them. The track that comes with it is great quality. Shame they don't make it in longer lengths. There are probably more accurate versions out there but for general DIY use it's hard to beat particularly at that price.
The barrel I used and which collapsed was bigger than the one you used. Think I'll buy the one you used.
I just bought the same one and mine collapsed without any extra restriction on airflow. I guess amazon have different suppliers for the same barrel.
@@ScottNicolson I'm glad you said that, Scott I'll save my money and find something more suitable, maybe a small metal drum.
Hi, I have three homemade dust extractors and they are so close to you specs that you would think I had made them after seeing it on your channel and copied it. I made these last year while I was going nuts locked down in my house I needed three because “SHED” is in three sections with walls between each part. As I said I used three triton vacs, three blue barrels and three cyclone cones, all of which have worked without falt and I have changed the barrels out when they were full “ I differed in one way, I set up a bulb that lights up when the barrel is full”
Good to hear from you John. The bulb is typically ingenious. I wouldn't have a clue how to go about that 😏 I'm told static can be a hazard with all that dust. Have you earthed yours?
@@CharlieDIYte no and i have not had any problems
Hey! New here. Thanks for this video. How powerful is your Titan?
Thanks
Would be nice if ALL the hoses were “standardized” for the ID/OD sizes; as that would be pretty cool, regardless of the Vac Brand or Hose you chose to buy.
Well, maybe one day, we will get there.....right😂
Thx Charlie✌🏻
I agree mate, and all the inlet ducts for the power tools 👍🏻
Great video and really timely as I need to up my dust busting game! Do you have any thoughts between buying all the parts for this vs a scheppach dust collector which is about £70 from Screwfix?.
I couldn't see that on the website. Does that have a motor integrated? The thing about making your own is you can choose what litre capacity you need, and use it with your existing vac. I didn't show on the video but it's intriguing watching the dust spin around whilst you're vacuuming. And you can literally vacuum up everything with it.
Hi Charlie
Good video - wish I had done this - but too near the end now for me!!
However, at 2:35 what is the connector you use and where did you get it for your plunge saw?
I’m sick of using duct tape as the hose and the outlet are the same size!
I’m also going to try the taping over the window trick👌👍
It was actually the adaptor that came with my Evolution sliding bevel mitre saw. You can get them on Amazon and ebay. Google "vacuum adaptor for power tools". However you have to experiment. It's sort of luck whether it fits your vacuum nozzle or not.
Hi mate, could you do a comparison video of the power tools from Lidl and Aldi? Like compare the quality and price with each other and then also say if you think they're good for the price or would you rather pay extra and get a cheap Ryobi or something. I looked through your channel and couldn't see anything on it. Nothing on TH-cam about it yet either that I could see.
Really enjoying your wardrobe build series so far
Not related to your cyclone but does the Erbauer track saw fit the Evolution rails?
Thanks Tony. Yes it does although it will trim a new slice off the splinter guard so if you want to go back to using the Evolution (which I can't see why I will actually) you'll need to buy a new splinter guard. I was very impressed by the 1400mm Evolution track. Good quality and it bolts together totally flush. Don't know why they don't make a 2800mm version.
Could you use that for metal grinding as well?
Hi thank you for your most enjoyable videos.
If you need to add a pressure valve have a look at the New Brit Workshop, where Peter Parfitt gives step by step instructions.
Thanks Sean. I'll do that. I've had the odd conversation with Peter after he saw my MFT work top I put together with his kit. Nice chap!
You could fit a pressure release valve see Peter parfet video new Brit workshop
The other solution is to make a pressure relief valve in the top of the barrel, I think it can be done with a bolt, washer and spring.
Great, what's next, a flux capacitor , cause I am struggling a bit with the design ;-)
I'm on it. 😉
Should I have gone for that saw? I went with the evolution as was cheaper and was the hybrid. But seeing all the videos online with tracksaw and festools etc. So jealous. But as I don’t have a workshop or garage to do it in I don’t see the need. But for the extra £50 is that erbauer worth it. And what was the little extra that was suggested. I couldn’t make it out.
He put tape over the grill I think. Presumably to reduce unintended dust release.
I made a similar one to this. I keep getting shocked by static from the (festool) hose. Have you had this or any way to get rid of the shocks! It's fine when I omit the collector system and go back to the standard tool direct to festool midi.
I recently bought a titan wet and dry and I'm intending to upgrade the filter to class m, and ultimately replicating your cyclone system. In the meantime, where did you get the hepa filter upgrade from? Thanks in advance.
Screwfix have stopped selling the filters, but the guy just below you in the Comments feed has bought some Titan spares on Spares2go so you might try that?
I've got an almost identical setup, the barrel has collapsed once it twice but only when there is a blockage and I've not noticed and left it running. Forcing the barrel back into shape is a challenge, might get round to re-enforcing at some point! Looking forward to your opinion of the plunge saw.
Hey rrddaatube, what vaccine are you using? What power is stated?
It must create some impressive suction to collapse one of those barrels.
It's an old Dyson no idea of that stats.
Mine works really well but it’s easy to get the barrel to collapse by just dropping the hose on the floor and have it suck up to something flat. Reshaping the collapsed barrel can be tricky until I worked out I could blow it up with the (Titan 1100W) vac reversed. Inflates the barrel and mostly straightens out the creases.
Looks great!
I’m struggling to understand the science part of it though. Would be good to know more about what is actually happening and why
Gravity. The debris is separated via the cyclone bit and gravity causes it to fall into the barrel. Only the finest dust is then sucked up into the vacuum.
@@Lliam439 So I take it that it wouldn’t really work for clearing out the ash from a wood burner as the ash is so light? I’ve wrecked a shop vac filter doing that before
Charlie, I have a similar set-up to yourself for abating my sand blasting cabinet. There is a potential safety issue with the setup you describe that many folk will be unaware of. I am a former Manager of a Chemical factory and we are well aware of the potential hazards of dust explosions and ensuredthe risk was minimised by a variety of design and safety measures. Wood dust and MDF dust can form an explosive atmosphere and can be ignited by static buildup by the cyclone. If you are unaware of the destructive potential of dust explosions, google flour mill dust explosion. So what measures can we take in a domestic situation to minimise the risk? The main measures we can take are to avoid ignition sources near the setup for example brushed motor power tools or vaccum cleaners and ensure that cyclone is grounded to a known earth point using some 6mm cable. It is important to try and use a cyclone that is electically conductive, many of them are (the plastic ones include a conductive filler in their composition) by some the cheaper ones from e.g. China may not be. If the cyclone is not conductive then the grounding will/may not work. You can check to see if your cyclone is building up static my seeing if the hairs on the back of your hand stand up when the system is running and you place your hand next to the cyclone.
Thanks Dave. I appreciate the heads up on that and I think one other person may have mentioned this. I'll keep an eye on it and report back 👍🏻
Perfect job done. Ha ha the odd thing is a filter out the hoover?
I don't think it is as the hoover has a hepa filter. I've kept it though as I'll suddenly discover where it's meant to go!
@@CharlieDIYte I’m sure my old hoover of the same make had one the same. But yes one day it will click😊
The hose suggested isn’t available. Can anyone please recommend an alternative for the same set up? Tia
Great video sir. I have just set up up exactly the same system but mine isn't working right. I started extracting on a concrete floor grinder only to find the hoover losing suction and that the hoover was full of dust. Please help someone!
Have you got the nozzle that's sucking up the dust connected to the wrong feed on the cyclone?
Did the metal bin work for you? I bought a metal bin to use with my Henry hoover and it’s collapsed just wondered if you had the same issues?
Makes cyclone to remove danger of dust! Then opens barrel to show the dust and stirs it up into the air!!
Great build. I love mine.
Hi Charlie really good video on the cyclone, I am in the process of making mine. Have you considered the problem of Static electricity and how to earth it or am i just making problems for myself, your thoughts wood be appreciated.
Yes a few people have mentioned static. Best thing to do would be to earth the metal clip component to the ground with a suitable wire. You can probably use Google to find something appropriate.
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I would recommend watching this video on Earthing
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Also this is a good video for a pressure release Valve to stop the barrel collapsing
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Hi Charlie great video but have a question do you think this will work well with a sander please ? Thanks Ian
It should do although mine collapsed when I had it connected to my random orbit sander. A combination I think of it being a very warm day so the plastic barrel was softer, and the sander creating an almost permanent blocked suction effect. It hasn't done it since although next weekend In going to show an upgrade I've made to it (pressure relief valve, / metal drum).
@@CharlieDIYte Yes! Looking forward to the new video. I noticed you had updated the "Today's Toolkit" list and I've been hoping you would show us how/if you've implemented the metal drum yourself. I'm planning to build one for myself using the newly updated version of your Titan model. It now costs about £10 - £15 more than you paid for your model, but the plastic parts appear to be better quality 😂 I'll know for sure when it arrives tomorrow!
I bought a dust cyclone and in the brochure it shows three stacked plastic buckets. I wonder if that's enough reinforcement to stop it collapsing.
Aw, why did you not do this video months ago! Would have saved me so much grief. Do you think it would work with finer dust like plaster or from a wall chaser?
Have you done a video on your track for the saw? Which one did you go for?
Yes I'm sure it would work with finer dust. So I've got the two 700 mm tracks that came with it, and for the time being I'm struggling on with the two 1400mm Evolution tracks, bolted together to rip down full length sheets. It's annoying Erbauer don't do longer tracks as I'm impressed with the quality of the two that came with it. There's a mini review at the start of this video th-cam.com/video/4ylDeQXv1k0/w-d-xo.html 👍🏻
Charlie, have you added the Erbauer plunge saw to your shop? I've been thinking about getting it and would like the affiliate pennies to go your way.
That's incredibly kind of you mate. Sadly they don't sell it on Amazon so the link I've added is to Screwfix where they're currently only doing click and collect (in my area at any rate). I'm really pleased with the saw. Well worth getting!
@@CharlieDIYte I’ve got the same plunge saw, when I started using mine I was getting a lot of black foam all chopped up.I wonder if they put the foam by the blade and you sucked yours out and I cut mine up?
I built a cyclonic dust extractor the same as yours, unfortunately my barrel collapsed several times so I reinforced the middle with timber. Didn’t work it just collapsed somewhere else, it’s a shame because it worked really well. My only solution is to obtain a metal barrel, I’ve found mine very useful as I’ve got it connected to my trend vacuum which has a power take off so I can run my power saw off. I noticed you’ve taken the bag out of your vacuum, beware if your barrel gets full you’ve got no protection on your vacuum and it could damage the motor if dust gets inside the vacuum canister.
Thanks Brian. Generally I'm not a fan of removing the bag. I've always had a bag on my Henry's over the years. However the Tritan bag design is criminal the way it fits the inlet tube. You get so much dust leakage, and there's the hepa filter to protect the motor so I think it'll be ok.
Did you buy an adaptor to get it to fit to the tracksaw port?
You tend to get adaptors with most power tools - particularly mitre saws and the like and I think I just used one of those - from my Evolution saw. Failing that you can pick them up very cheaply on Amazon and eBay.
How are you finding the Erbauer plunge saw? I am looking to buy one for diy (so not wanting to spend £400+ on one) heard the Erbauer is decent enough but people have had issues with the anti kick back?
I love it Joshua and the first thing I did was remove the anti kick back, with a PH2 screw bit. Dead easy. It comes with a track that's wide enough to do a cross cut. Bolted together completely true which was impressive. It fits my Evolution tracks too (Erbauer don't seem to do a 2800mm track for some reason) although I've had to order some new splinter guard (in case I use the Evolution again on the tracks) because the Erbauer will cut closer to the track than my Evolution did, thereby removing more of the guard (which is perfect thinking about it, as that way it will be set up on the track as new). Also I'm unlikely to use the Evolution again with the track, or at all for that matter as for light weight jobs I'll still use my Ryobi. Also slightly annoying that it doesn't come with a carry case but I've bought a Triton case on Amazon, which doesn't quite close with it in but does the job. The other thing I like is that you can mark on the depth stop with a pencil your most often used depths so you don't have to keep setting the blade by eye.
Could an old dyson or similar be used instead if the titan?
I wouldn't use a Dyson for anything other than domestic cleaning. It just wouldn't be up to it. Henry on the other hand would be fine.
That canopy looks the business! Where can I buy one?
It's a Clarke tent th-cam.com/video/8-PY4AXAQTQ/w-d-xo.html
@@CharlieDIYte Nice one! 👌
Hi Charlie have you tried the cyclone with your Henry hoover? Would it be have enough power?
Yes it would work great and in fact quite a few people in this Comments feed have hooked up their Henry's.
Would this work with a Henry Hoover - power about 600watts ?
yes. the trick to the efficiency is to make sure there are no ir gaps at all in the connections