Thanks! The channel is the same as my gym, chill vibes only 👐. Thanks for noticing! Ankle picks are definitely a takedown to master. Low risk, high reward!
Thank you Jordan and thank you Nikki. First I watched your channel for entertainment. Now that I've started practicing Jiu Jitsu, I'm watching to study. ❤ Much love from a fellow Canadian ❤
About to compete this upcoming weekend for the first time (white belt GI).. your videos are helpful. The time you put in definitely educates new practitioners like myself
Aw thanks Angel! That really means a lot to us 🙏 New video every Friday. Looking forward to being a part of your Jiujitsu journey and helping you learn the beautiful art of BJJ!
Could you maybe make a kind of opposite to this video? Like which takedowns to learn in the beginning, which are the safest and so on. That would be very helpful. Thanks for your great work!
I 100% agree with everything on this list. Some of those techniques may look cool, but I find that it's just not worth the risk of injury to you and your partner. That's one reason the scissor is illegal in judo.
I don't blame you. There's some wreckless people out there. So much safer competing as a higher belt. I saw a sciccor takedown gone wrong in person at a tournament once and it was nasty.
I had an "oh shit" moment earlier this year when a large purple belt frantically jumped guard during training. I felt his full body weight hanging momentarily off my straightened leg. Pretty awful feeling...
Great video coach, even as a blue belt I found this useful, plus my girlfriend is also a white belt and so she will love it. If I may ask, why do you prefer the head low on the hips as opposed to the chest on the single? (No disrespect, genuinely interested to know).
I prefer it because it's the hips that we're trying to get to the floor so to me putting all the emphasis there is so much more effective. But higher up by the chest is closer to the end of the leaver and is tried and true in freestyle wrestling. So I wouldn't dare to say it's wrong, but it's a night and day difference in effectiveness for me. I think it also comes down to body type. I have very short but stocky legs and a long torso. So for me to put my head on the hips I'm not really bending down much as compared to someone that would be with longer legs. I actually got my cauliflower ear from head on the inside singles. I'd hit them constantly in mma practice and it caused a lot of wear and tear on my ear and now it's mangled lol I appreciate the comment and question. Anytime if have any questions I'm happy to give a detailed response 🙂
@@JordanTeachesJiujitsu thank you coach for the detailed response, your explanation makes a lot of sense and I will now give this variation a try, who knows, it might work for me! Thank you again!
Really valuable stuff! Possibly if the title mentioned that you include the good alternatives, I would imagine several beginners like me might have clicked it even faster. I feel the title doesn't do the detailed extent of the content justice. Anyhow, thanks again, just doing the work for the algorithm, you know best how your videos should be titled - short is snappy.
Great idea! I should put it in the thumbnail. I'm going to make new thumbnails for a bunch for a bunch of these now that I'm getting a little better at it :)
Holy shit... I thought I would do at least one if not most of whatever takedowns you say to avoid, but I do none of them. Apparently I vastly prefer the higher percentage safer takedowns lol. Even though I train double legs, I pretty much never attempt them and would use an ankle pick or single leg if I choose to go for the legs at all. My overall favorite takedowns appears to be harai goshi, ouchi gari, single leg > trip, and getting to the back and a simple body lock takedown.
these videos are freakin awesome!! i am competing for the first time tomorrow and i definitely am going to use the ankle pick instead of double leg, inside single, ORRR if im feelin sneaky ill try the fake guard pull to ankle pick lol. thank you!!
One of my tournaments as a white belt I jumped guard for some dumb reason. The dude didn't support my weight at all (why would he!) and my back slammed on the ground and knocked the wind out of me a bit. After that I have never jumped guard again as I realized it's just dumb.
Good video, your videos are done really well With that double leg, I feel it is fundamental that you have to learn because it is so useful and effective. It's why at the very highest of levels it's one of the most successful takedowns and even across all levels. Feel like the reason why you listed it as something to avoid for beginners come from people just doing it wrong. But that's normal for beginners and once they get the hang of it, it can be so effective.
I think because beginners are easily down on themselves and quit it's better to focus on lower risk takedowns. The double leg requires a lot of know how that is hard for beginners to get. I think more straight forward takedowns are better to start with but absolutely double legs should be learned 🙂
@@JordanTeachesJiujitsu yeah I get what you mean, there are a lot of beginners that just don't do it right but it's part of the process until they can get it right. And to avoid it would mean you're missing out on learning how to do a really effective takedown and the double leg is a basic takedown so it's not hard to do. Yeah, I reckon probably teaching the blast double is a lot easier than teaching them how to turn the corner with the head on the outside initially. But you have to be explosive or going against someone your size to be successful with it
@@thaitran3985 there's a lot to a double including risk of injury. I tore my meniscus when I was sprawled on as a whitebelt. You need to know what to do if you're sprawled on, if they hip in, if they grab your neck, an much more. Other takedowns are much easier to master. We can agree to disagree on this one 🙂
@@JordanTeachesJiujitsu I can see what you mean though, I'm just saying it should still be taught to beginners because once you know how to do it, it's a fundamental technique that is effective across all levels. Can see how it can be tricky for a beginner. It is a move that does require athleticism and generally the people that do BJJ are your everyday person and takedowns arent really emphasised in BJJ. Damm that sucks you tore it
It’s even more then that they are used at the highest level. They are commonly used with incredible effectiveness at pretty much every level. Watch a white belt tournament, you are likely to see a wrestler tear through the lot of them double legging everyone, then go up to ADCC and matches like Pena vs Galvao are determined by Galvao finishing just one double leg. Go the the UFC you see guys like khabib, GSP Usman Cormier Jon Jones etc dominating with the double leg and sprawl. Watch videos of street fights you see random dudes destroying get destroyed with double legs. Just from a self defense perspective if you don’t know how to sprawl because no one has ever shot a double on you, it doesn’t matter how good of triangle you have, because anyone on the street who knows how to wrestle will pick you up with a double leg and bounce your head off the concrete.
Could you make a video on how to make a proper double leg? ( like the timing , the distance etc...) and how to fix a failed double leg if you get sprawl ? ( Gi and No gi )
I'm just plain scared of falling (I'm 72 and have osteoporosis). So I practice breakfalls by myself on my mats at home. It's mainly a psychological barrier. 😂7 months into jiu-jitsu and I'm finding myself less and less fearful. I never refuse a takedown lesson. Studying how to fall and practicing really helps.
i use cinderblocks; set them up so the guy can get a bit of height. i put a piece of plywood with a nice hole drilled in the middle. This way the man can get up on top and make right in my mouth without getting anything all over my body or floor. I dont like clean up or showering or after i play so this works best. Dont use plastic wrap because its messy and neighbours will compain about the stink!
Here is the thing. The academy where I train celebrate fireman carry, double legs and judo high level throws as if they were submissions. They even scream in joyful attitude when they succeed. Now, I've decided to simply allow all of em to do it on, and there are no more screamin cause I make it too easy for them to hit those takedowns.
Pretty wack the double leg is on here. You mentioned all the ways it can go wrong, like you can get sprawled on or guillotined, but I wouldn’t see why that meant shouldn’t practice it. As long as the injury risk isn’t especially high, then let them get guillotined and sprawled on, it’s good practice. Plus you said it takes incredible timing, but it seems to me it only takes like a month to learn a good double leg that would work on a non-grappler. Also most importantly what really is more useful in self defense a closed guard arm bar or a double leg and sprawl. I’d you look at fights that occur in a octagon or the street, you’ll see lots of double legs, lots of sprawls and very few ankle picks and very few closed guard arm bars. Kind of seems to me that hipster saying about leg locks applies here. Perhaps if BJJ guys were taught double legs from day 1 they would be better at them. Of course the difference between double legs and leg locks is that double legs are imo much safer. I mean double legs are done like 24/7 in wrestling rooms at like every high school, and they in my experience have a lower rate of injury then BJJ rooms.
If your gym spends a meaningful time on learning the double leg then I recommend it. Great takedown. If you spent one or 2 classes on it and expect to hit it with high success then it's not going to happen. Which is the case for most BJJ schools. Most BJJ schools spend very little time on takedowns. Which is those cases there are easier takedowns to get good at with less risk of things going wrong. I don't disagree with anything you said. I think you're not understanding the context of my opinion. Which is okay. It's just my opinion and noone has to follow it 🙂
Commenting 6 months later so not much for engagement but, #1 should be #1 as it is banned. The reason why is that people hit this from their opponents side or even worse front... breaking the knees. It can be done safely (and thus effectively) from the opponents back (at which point why even bother if you're there), such as going for a schoolyard trip (judo outer reap) and then switching to it. Cung Li can also get into this the right way, taking the opponent backwards. Check the tuts or highlights. #,1 like #5, happens the wrong way since it is often done with some form of upper body control, stalled out in a grapple and bailing because one person is trying too hard to win... because they aren't. Also #5 those vids are about people pulling 'guard' around people's knees??? Uncontrolled and panicked attempts by overweight low belts with the victim locked place by the weight and momentum since their upper body is grabbed by the gi, keeping their legs grounded in place. Banned as well.
I think you missed a really important one, tani otoshi. I come from judo and it is by far one of the easiest for white belts to injure themselves or their partner. It's very easy to drive down and sit into your partner's knee of for them to fall into your own knee when you attempt the throw with zero understanding of kuzushi and positioning.
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Cheers for this. In addition to the top notch instruction, I also really enjoy the chill vibe of your videos. Time to go drill some ankle picks :)
Thanks! The channel is the same as my gym, chill vibes only 👐. Thanks for noticing! Ankle picks are definitely a takedown to master. Low risk, high reward!
This is becoming one of my favorite TH-cam channels, full stop.
Thanks, Dale!
Great content. I’m 42 and these alternatives will serve me great in reducing injury.
Nice! Glad you got something out of it. Longevity is so important to me both for me and my students. I want everyone to train forever!
Keep the videos coming brother !! Let's see that rolling back take !!
Thanks man I promise I'll do a rolling back attack video within the next 5 upcoming videos 🙏
This is a brilliant channel, my journey started in August last year and your videos have been a great extra curricular tool.
Thank you! Happy to hear that 🙂
Thank you Jordan and thank you Nikki. First I watched your channel for entertainment. Now that I've started practicing Jiu Jitsu, I'm watching to study.
❤ Much love from a fellow Canadian ❤
About to compete this upcoming weekend for the first time (white belt GI).. your videos are helpful. The time you put in definitely educates new practitioners like myself
That's awesome, Joe! Good luck and let me know how it goes 🙂
And thank you, I appreciate it 👊
Ur good always grate form one of my new favorite channels I love how u guys do these really helps me learn
Aw thanks Angel! That really means a lot to us 🙏 New video every Friday. Looking forward to being a part of your Jiujitsu journey and helping you learn the beautiful art of BJJ!
Your videos are awesome man. I tried the fake guard ankle pick yesterday and was getting everyone w that 😂
Awesome! Such a cool and effective technique. Definitely one of everyones favorites from the channel. I'm glad you're pulling it off!
Could you maybe make a kind of opposite to this video? Like which takedowns to learn in the beginning, which are the safest and so on. That would be very helpful.
Thanks for your great work!
Amazing content bro! Thanks for all the help!
I 100% agree with everything on this list. Some of those techniques may look cool, but I find that it's just not worth the risk of injury to you and your partner.
That's one reason the scissor is illegal in judo.
Amazing video. Love the honesty here
Great video! Keep it coming! White belts need more videos on takedowns!!
Definitely!
Scissor take downs and close guard jumps are why I'm worried about comps haha. Timing just a little bit off and your knees are messed up
I don't blame you. There's some wreckless people out there. So much safer competing as a higher belt. I saw a sciccor takedown gone wrong in person at a tournament once and it was nasty.
I had an "oh shit" moment earlier this year when a large purple belt frantically jumped guard during training. I felt his full body weight hanging momentarily off my straightened leg. Pretty awful feeling...
@@jasonrose6288 it's super scary when people do it. I wish they wouldn't 😩
@@JordanTeachesJiujitsu Agreed. I'm a judo guy. I hate guard pulling. It's often executed as an "I''ve run out of ideas" move.
A lot of these moves are banned at comps.
Great video coach, even as a blue belt I found this useful, plus my girlfriend is also a white belt and so she will love it. If I may ask, why do you prefer the head low on the hips as opposed to the chest on the single? (No disrespect, genuinely interested to know).
I prefer it because it's the hips that we're trying to get to the floor so to me putting all the emphasis there is so much more effective. But higher up by the chest is closer to the end of the leaver and is tried and true in freestyle wrestling. So I wouldn't dare to say it's wrong, but it's a night and day difference in effectiveness for me.
I think it also comes down to body type. I have very short but stocky legs and a long torso. So for me to put my head on the hips I'm not really bending down much as compared to someone that would be with longer legs.
I actually got my cauliflower ear from head on the inside singles. I'd hit them constantly in mma practice and it caused a lot of wear and tear on my ear and now it's mangled lol
I appreciate the comment and question. Anytime if have any questions I'm happy to give a detailed response 🙂
@@JordanTeachesJiujitsu thank you coach for the detailed response, your explanation makes a lot of sense and I will now give this variation a try, who knows, it might work for me! Thank you again!
@@admles-au no problem. Let me know if it works good for you! I'll share some good inside single set ups soon too.
Really valuable stuff! Possibly if the title mentioned that you include the good alternatives, I would imagine several beginners like me might have clicked it even faster. I feel the title doesn't do the detailed extent of the content justice.
Anyhow, thanks again, just doing the work for the algorithm, you know best how your videos should be titled - short is snappy.
Great idea! I should put it in the thumbnail. I'm going to make new thumbnails for a bunch for a bunch of these now that I'm getting a little better at it :)
Thank you sensei
Holy shit... I thought I would do at least one if not most of whatever takedowns you say to avoid, but I do none of them.
Apparently I vastly prefer the higher percentage safer takedowns lol. Even though I train double legs, I pretty much never attempt them and would use an ankle pick or single leg if I choose to go for the legs at all.
My overall favorite takedowns appears to be harai goshi, ouchi gari, single leg > trip, and getting to the back and a simple body lock takedown.
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these videos are freakin awesome!! i am competing for the first time tomorrow and i definitely am going to use the ankle pick instead of double leg, inside single, ORRR if im feelin sneaky ill try the fake guard pull to ankle pick lol. thank you!!
One of my tournaments as a white belt I jumped guard for some dumb reason. The dude didn't support my weight at all (why would he!) and my back slammed on the ground and knocked the wind out of me a bit. After that I have never jumped guard again as I realized it's just dumb.
Good video, your videos are done really well
With that double leg, I feel it is fundamental that you have to learn because it is so useful and effective. It's why at the very highest of levels it's one of the most successful takedowns and even across all levels. Feel like the reason why you listed it as something to avoid for beginners come from people just doing it wrong. But that's normal for beginners and once they get the hang of it, it can be so effective.
I think because beginners are easily down on themselves and quit it's better to focus on lower risk takedowns. The double leg requires a lot of know how that is hard for beginners to get. I think more straight forward takedowns are better to start with but absolutely double legs should be learned 🙂
@@JordanTeachesJiujitsu yeah I get what you mean, there are a lot of beginners that just don't do it right but it's part of the process until they can get it right. And to avoid it would mean you're missing out on learning how to do a really effective takedown and the double leg is a basic takedown so it's not hard to do.
Yeah, I reckon probably teaching the blast double is a lot easier than teaching them how to turn the corner with the head on the outside initially. But you have to be explosive or going against someone your size to be successful with it
@@thaitran3985 there's a lot to a double including risk of injury. I tore my meniscus when I was sprawled on as a whitebelt. You need to know what to do if you're sprawled on, if they hip in, if they grab your neck, an much more. Other takedowns are much easier to master. We can agree to disagree on this one 🙂
@@JordanTeachesJiujitsu I can see what you mean though, I'm just saying it should still be taught to beginners because once you know how to do it, it's a fundamental technique that is effective across all levels. Can see how it can be tricky for a beginner. It is a move that does require athleticism and generally the people that do BJJ are your everyday person and takedowns arent really emphasised in BJJ. Damm that sucks you tore it
It’s even more then that they are used at the highest level.
They are commonly used with incredible effectiveness at pretty much every level.
Watch a white belt tournament, you are likely to see a wrestler tear through the lot of them double legging everyone, then go up to ADCC and matches like Pena vs Galvao are determined by Galvao finishing just one double leg.
Go the the UFC you see guys like khabib, GSP Usman Cormier Jon Jones etc dominating with the double leg and sprawl.
Watch videos of street fights you see random dudes destroying get destroyed with double legs.
Just from a self defense perspective if you don’t know how to sprawl because no one has ever shot a double on you, it doesn’t matter how good of triangle you have, because anyone on the street who knows how to wrestle will pick you up with a double leg and bounce your head off the concrete.
Such an underrated channel
I appreciate that man! Hopefully not for long 🙂
Could you make a video on how to make a proper double leg? ( like the timing , the distance etc...) and how to fix a failed double leg if you get sprawl ? ( Gi and No gi )
As a former judo guy i love the hip takedown
What about the kouchi gake? Its like the judo version of the doubke leg takedown
Hmm I gotta check it out
Ankle pick, and I like to pull people into my guard, but I also prefer to go from my guard. It’s a long story, but I’m pretty ok with it.
I like guard a lot too! Good on you for being a big guy and enjoying guard. A lot of big dudes stay clear and have terrible guards because of it!
🤘 nice thanks again
I always was taught to push with other hand in ankle pick.
Super lesson❤❤❤
You realized that by telling beginners to avoid these, you're guaranteeing that beginners try them.
Haha I'm hoping for the best
Good tip too
Your Channel is pure Gold TYTYTY
Np man glad you like it!
I absolutely agree with the double leg takedown ,as whenever I try to perform it I get guillotined.
And this guillotine is usually hard to get out of.
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How do I lose fear of getting taken down, specially I’m scared by the hip throw 😢
I'm just plain scared of falling (I'm 72 and have osteoporosis). So I practice breakfalls by myself on my mats at home. It's mainly a psychological barrier. 😂7 months into jiu-jitsu and I'm finding myself less and less fearful. I never refuse a takedown lesson. Studying how to fall and practicing really helps.
i use cinderblocks; set them up so the guy can get a bit of height. i put a piece of plywood with a nice hole drilled in the middle.
This way the man can get up on top and make right in my mouth without getting anything all over my body or floor. I dont like clean up or showering or after i play so this works best.
Dont use plastic wrap because its messy and neighbours will compain about the stink!
I wish BJJ teachers around the world taught this.
Me too!
Now what are the best ones for a white belt?
What about low single leg takedown
Ya i should have included that. They're dangerous.
@@JordanTeachesJiujitsu wait what?o thought they are effective against the big dudes
Scissors and guard jumps are unnecessarily risky at any level. I wonder if they'll ever get banned competitively
I found double legs much easier than ankle picks.
But haven't put much time in the latter.
You get better at what you work on 🙂
Great channel - all your vids are to the point and well put together - much appreciated
Thanks man 🙏
Here is the thing. The academy where I train celebrate fireman carry, double legs and judo high level throws as if they were submissions. They even scream in joyful attitude when they succeed.
Now, I've decided to simply allow all of em to do it on, and there are no more screamin cause I make it too easy for them to hit those takedowns.
Love it!
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Low risk takedowns!! ive been saying this for YEARS
Great minds think alike!
1000th Like. Thank you everyone.
Can someone please tell me what shorts this man is wearing?
They're "kingz" brand
Should have seen this video before injuring my shoulder on my double leg atempt🤦♂️
I fall on my neck a lot. Now that wont happen as much
Good! Gotta take of your neck. My neck is wrecked from a decade of abusing my body lol
@@JordanTeachesJiujitsu Ya best protect your neck.
@@TapoutT wise words from Wutang 👐
Finally another black belt teaches not to do a double leg at white belt. Been preaching this for YEARS!
Glad you liked it :)
Y’all are beautiful people I’m with you let’s get it!
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‘Break grips’ is a good tip in theory but but the time I break the grip to then think about what I’m doing next they have re gripped. (Noob)
That jiu-jitsu stance just looks so wrong without Gi. 😅
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Pretty wack the double leg is on here.
You mentioned all the ways it can go wrong, like you can get sprawled on or guillotined, but I wouldn’t see why that meant shouldn’t practice it. As long as the injury risk isn’t especially high, then let them get guillotined and sprawled on, it’s good practice. Plus you said it takes incredible timing, but it seems to me it only takes like a month to learn a good double leg that would work on a non-grappler.
Also most importantly what really is more useful in self defense a closed guard arm bar or a double leg and sprawl.
I’d you look at fights that occur in a octagon or the street, you’ll see lots of double legs, lots of sprawls and very few ankle picks and very few closed guard arm bars.
Kind of seems to me that hipster saying about leg locks applies here. Perhaps if BJJ guys were taught double legs from day 1 they would be better at them. Of course the difference between double legs and leg locks is that double legs are imo much safer. I mean double legs are done like 24/7 in wrestling rooms at like every high school, and they in my experience have a lower rate of injury then BJJ rooms.
If your gym spends a meaningful time on learning the double leg then I recommend it. Great takedown. If you spent one or 2 classes on it and expect to hit it with high success then it's not going to happen. Which is the case for most BJJ schools. Most BJJ schools spend very little time on takedowns. Which is those cases there are easier takedowns to get good at with less risk of things going wrong.
I don't disagree with anything you said. I think you're not understanding the context of my opinion. Which is okay. It's just my opinion and noone has to follow it 🙂
I went for an ankle pit instead of a double leg but I have more success with the double leg.
Just need to stop getting guillotined haha
When is Nicky getting her black belt
Yay Nikki
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I’d rather lose than pull guard
Commenting 6 months later so not much for engagement but, #1 should be #1 as it is banned. The reason why is that people hit this from their opponents side or even worse front... breaking the knees. It can be done safely (and thus effectively) from the opponents back (at which point why even bother if you're there), such as going for a schoolyard trip (judo outer reap) and then switching to it. Cung Li can also get into this the right way, taking the opponent backwards. Check the tuts or highlights.
#,1 like #5, happens the wrong way since it is often done with some form of upper body control, stalled out in a grapple and bailing because one person is trying too hard to win... because they aren't.
Also #5 those vids are about people pulling 'guard' around people's knees??? Uncontrolled and panicked attempts by overweight low belts with the victim locked place by the weight and momentum since their upper body is grabbed by the gi, keeping their legs grounded in place. Banned as well.
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Why'd you have to do my double leg dirty like this :'(
Nooooo I love the second technique and I’m the whitest of white belts 😢
Lmao why you doing this with girls can lift peope your weight lol
I'm too weak
why a girl?
Why not lol?? 🤷🏼♂️
I think you missed a really important one, tani otoshi. I come from judo and it is by far one of the easiest for white belts to injure themselves or their partner. It's very easy to drive down and sit into your partner's knee of for them to fall into your own knee when you attempt the throw with zero understanding of kuzushi and positioning.
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